FunPlus Phoenix's deal for Heroic roster in jeopardy as es3tag leans towards Astralis; Flashpoint spot uncertain *

FunPlus Phoenix could walk out of the negotiation table with Heroic as Patrick "⁠es3tag⁠" Hansen is on the verge of joining Astralis, HLTV.org and 1pv.fr have confirmed.

The Chinese organisation is considering calling off negotiations with Heroic for a deal that everyone thought was done after seeing es3tag snatched from under their nose by Astralis, who are looking to add a sixth player to their squad after a series of mixed results.

Widely known for their world champion team in League of Legends, FunPlus Phoenix officially announced their entry into CS:GO on March 15, two days after the Flashpoint group selection show, in which the Danish team was already referred to as being part of the Chinese organisation. Later that day, Marco "⁠Snappi⁠" Pfeiffer's troops made their debut under FunPlus Phoenix in a 2-1 defeat to Cloud9.

This last-minute twist raises questions about FunPlus Phoenix's future in Flashpoint, in which the founding partner slots belong to the organisations. According to 1pv.fr, the Chinese organisation was exempt from paying the $2 million buy-in fee upon joining Flashpoint as the league organiser hastily tried to find more partners before the launch of the competition. FunPlus Phoenix reportedly only needed to pay the franchise fee after 12 months and in case they decided to remain in the league. This claim has since been refuted by Dan Fiden, Cloud9 president and interim CEO of Flashpoint, who stressed that the trial period for the Chinese organisation "was never true".

Should the deal collapse, the Danish players are likely to return to Heroic, which could leave FunPlus Phoenix without a team to field in Sunday's lower bracket match against Orgless. This would place another stone in what has already been a rocky start for Flashpoint, which launched with just eight partners and not ten as initially planned and was recently forced to shift to an online setting because of the coronavirus outbreak.

Heroic were initially set to compete in the ESL Pro League but had to forfeit their slot in the competition following the team's move to FunPlus Phoenix. They were replaced by BIG, who are sitting at the top of Group B with two victories from as many matches.

UPDATE: Erik Askered, CEO of Heroic, provided the following statement to HLTV.org: "I am unable to comment at this moment, as we are making legal preparations. This is due to the fact that we know and can prove that Astralis has acted in bad faith, and have considerably affected the sale of Heroic to FPX."

UPDATE 2: Nikolaj Nyholm, CEO and Founder of Astralis, issued a statement on Twitter after his organisation confirmed es3tag's signing. According to him, "no actions were taken to the detriment of Heroic or FPX", and Astralis offered es3tag "an employment agreement starting July 1" after being informed that Heroic wanted $800,000 for a player who had three months left on his contract. His full statement can be found here.

Denmark Patrick 'es3tag' Hansen
Patrick 'es3tag' Hansen
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
1087
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.15
Denmark Marco 'Snappi' Pfeiffer
Marco 'Snappi' Pfeiffer
Age:
30
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.97
Maps played:
1230
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.13
Es3tag god! Pls replace dupreeh, total bot in 95% of games
2020-03-21 18:13
lmao too good
2020-03-21 18:13
#7
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North America ProudNAfan
Which Australis bot will be replaced first?
2020-03-21 18:14
Might be dupreeh sadly. Can't really imagine anyone else, not sure i agree that the roster need any changes even though es3tag is a promising player
2020-03-21 18:17
I would've thought they would wait till after major at the earliest to think about making changes
2020-03-21 18:24
1
2020-03-21 19:22
Heard this in a danish podcast over a year ago with Kasper Hvidt. It’s like you have more players in a football or handball team ( Kasper Hvidt use to be goalkeeper in danish national handball team. ) No Astralis player are leaving they are just trying new things for optimisation.
2020-03-21 18:29
So like a substitute to play him for different maps? Could work but don't you have to register 5 players to each tournament? Can you register more than that?
2020-03-21 18:33
#94
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South Africa @FyreCS
I think that’s what they’re trying to do as well. Not sure if it’s possible, but would be interesting since they could swap a player out for a more suitable double awp setup on some maps versing fielding only a main awper on a certain map. If more teams do this, it could be a guessing game of who they field in certain matchups which would be interesting
2020-03-21 18:37
Doesn't AGO X-Kom have like 8 players atm or something ridiculous?
2020-03-21 20:24
#150
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Poland Archasi
Yeah, they have 7 players.
2020-03-21 22:35
craycray
2020-03-22 19:50
I think it will be from tournament to tournaments. Standing in, in case of sickness, to level travelling pressure and pressure in general. And oh yeah, u know u need to preform.
2020-03-21 18:51
I like the idea of implementing performance and healthy presure onto the players
2020-03-21 19:18
#168
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Australia SUNSPY
Yep
2020-03-22 10:18
#121
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Japan Amatsuk1
more like league of legends swapping members if one does not play well... every role got a replacement player
2020-03-21 19:15
yeah, kind of, Space Soldiers and x6tence used to do this
2020-03-21 20:07
i think its possible, because there is team in china have roster more than 4 players, OneThree doing that by bring dosia and mou in. i think its possible
2020-03-22 09:46
I know you... You sound as d... as u do at the site u are an admin at... PSE-tw..
2020-03-21 22:42
massive L
2020-03-21 18:14
dunno they dont have any NA players so its hard to choose one
2020-03-21 18:18
#69
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North America ProudNAfan
Yes the org should consider NA players then they can like ago and have 7 man roster!
2020-03-21 18:26
how old are you
2020-03-21 18:27
Rekt
2020-03-21 20:12
#34
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Liechtenstein Over088
Nah Dupreeh was always the best player of Astralis(Device overrated) but the problem is he is becoming old and washed up
2020-03-21 18:16
Yes he was god from 2013-2018 but he's trash since mid 2019. Only got top 20 2019 because fluke performance in astralis 3 event victory run in late 2019
2020-03-21 18:17
He was better last year than he was in 2015 - 2017...??? He's been okay so far in 2020 online. His LAN performance has been pretty bad, but it's 13 maps, that's not really a big sample size yet.
2020-03-21 19:07
+1
2020-03-21 18:19
26 is not that old even for an esports player
2020-03-21 18:27
#83
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Liechtenstein Over088
I know but there are some players that turn bad so early(Neo,Apex) this might be Dupreeh case aswell
2020-03-21 18:29
Neo's decline was more his inability to adapt to GO, and less about his age. Apex was ALWAYS streaky, it wasn't a shock to see his form trending towards worse as he got older.
2020-03-21 19:08
apEX and Dupreeh are entry players they’re not supposed to have great ratings all the time.
2020-03-21 19:46
True
2020-03-21 20:23
0/8, dupreeh has so much impact
2020-03-21 18:20
Dupreeh 1.00 rating past 3 months and 0.95 impact... He had 0.89 rating yesterday before the ence match btw
2020-03-21 18:21
Dupreeh 1.17 impact device 1.29 impact
2020-03-21 18:26
nt dupreeh 1.17 all time impact and 0.95 last 3 months impact device 1.29 all time impact and 1.13 last 3 months impact
2020-03-21 18:27
Only Magisk and device are performing in Astralis at the moment, it's not just Dupreeh.
2020-03-21 19:13
xyp is performing well too imo
2020-03-21 19:16
I mean he's performing average statistically. He's never been a mad fragger in the team, so as long as he's consistent he's doing his job.
2020-03-21 19:18
#148
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CIS Comanchik
Dupreeh bot? OMEGALUL
2020-03-21 22:02
0/8
2020-03-21 22:38
YIKES!
2020-03-21 18:13
#3
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Canada U_S_of_Gay
Nice lol
2020-03-21 18:13
Why all Danes are snakes?
2020-03-21 18:13
why would he be a snake wtf? no one would pass up on the opportunity to join the best team in the world
2020-03-21 18:15
+1
2020-03-21 18:18
Right now they are not the best team in the world, and to be a 6th man? Plenty of people would pass that up.
2020-03-21 18:22
#24
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Germany BIG2020
because of Røde pølser
2020-03-21 18:15
#91
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Denmark Notallama
How dare you talk smack about røde pølser???
2020-03-21 18:33
#93
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Germany BIG2020
Røde pølser fucking gud in hot dog :)
2020-03-21 18:37
why are all swedes soyboys?
2020-03-21 18:23
No u
2020-03-21 20:13
Because that’s in their toxic and insecure nature :)
2020-03-21 20:13
#6
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Finland N1ggers
kek
2020-03-21 18:14
Fak
2020-03-21 18:14
#10
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Argentina trackssZZZ
WTFFF
2020-03-21 18:14
astralis -who?
2020-03-21 18:14
Noone, ''as sixth player''
2020-03-21 18:16
well he will replace someone when they will play
2020-03-21 18:22
If some1 have a bad day in first 2 maps, sub him out and sub in es3tag?
2020-03-21 18:42
yeah but they will have to somehow train and practice as 6 :/
2020-03-21 18:44
He just have to be there and listen, watch and get as much information as possible, and then with time he will adapt
2020-03-21 18:45
#12
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United States majdob
Worse than ence move
2020-03-21 18:14
axaxxaxax Danish cs in 2020
2020-03-21 18:14
What The Fuck Unexpected
2020-03-21 18:14
#62
mir | 
Lithuania 7000won
+1
2020-03-21 18:24
#16
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Russia YQKKE Q_Q
WHAT
2020-03-21 18:14
rip Astralis
2020-03-21 18:14
WTF
2020-03-21 18:15
trashtralis
2020-03-21 18:15
#22
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Wait wtf I don't understand.
2020-03-21 18:15
#23
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Poland legitb
Astralis? -who?
2020-03-21 18:15
What is going on
2020-03-21 18:15
CHAOS
2020-03-21 19:14
#26
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India FosFate
What's happening?
2020-03-21 18:15
ANARCHY
2020-03-21 19:14
Who would esetag have replaced at Astralis?
2020-03-21 18:15
6 man roster
2020-03-21 19:14
#28
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Libya nanaichini
Wtf esetag is 24yo and 1.09 in a tier 2 team for past 3 months he played in Danish scene for years and suddenly Astralis want him Retardedest move ever
2020-03-21 18:18
Cuz he is a good player that doesnt play for stats
2020-03-21 19:32
#29
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Liechtenstein Over088
WTF IS GOING ON
2020-03-21 18:15
guys its not april fools yet
2020-03-21 18:16
#31
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Germany ConAction
WTF
2020-03-21 18:16
Wtf unexpected af
2020-03-21 18:16
PATRICK "TWOFACED" TOLEDO
2020-03-21 18:17
DRAMA
2020-03-21 18:17
-xyp incoming
2020-03-21 18:17
lol , nope es3tag playing dupreeh role 2nd awper and entry
2020-03-21 18:19
wat
2020-03-21 18:17
deserved, Heroic is shit nowadays....
2020-03-21 18:18
#43
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Netherlands Ech_
AHAHAHA what a fucking shitshow
2020-03-21 18:18
Wtf
2020-03-21 18:19
#45
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United States brbsalt
rip astralis inc
2020-03-21 18:19
#47
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Denmark nrth_LUL
Really?
2020-03-21 18:19
#49
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Taiwan king224747
No major inc
2020-03-21 18:20
Danish CS soon becoming like BR CS.
2020-03-21 18:20
What the actual fuck??? So phoenix deal is going down becausw es3tag is going to astralis, so now all the players are going back to heroic??
2020-03-21 18:21
#55
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Switzerland rigoN
whaaaaaaaaaat
2020-03-21 18:22
This man is 24 years old. What is Astralis thinking. He's not as good as a single player on that team. Fight me Danish people. He's just not.
2020-03-21 18:22
Why would I fight someone that is absolutely right? If they saw an opportunity to get a Heroic player at least get stavn or b0rup.
2020-03-21 18:27
Ok I'm glad you guys are on board with this thinking. Someone maybe is taking a break is my first though. But then again the whole scene is kind of on extended break right now.
2020-03-21 18:28
#81
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Libya nanaichini
+1 24yo with 1.09 rating in t2 Danish team = no future
2020-03-21 18:28
#95
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Denmark Notallama
They said the same thing about magisk*
2020-03-21 18:40
Magisk like what, 20 years old when they signed him. Es3tag is 24. May not seems much, but 4 years difference is quite a gap in esports terms.
2020-03-21 18:49
#110
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Denmark Notallama
That's not the point. Magisk was barely doing better in North and Optic than es3tag is in Heroic now.. and doing the latter part is was against the US sub-par scene, which is basically tier3. You can go ahead and find his ratings if you want. There's no evidence that you would perform better at 20 than at 24 in terms of performance in esports. On the contrary, you rarely see players of that age deliver consistently on the big stages, especially on big events. However, there are obviously exemptions that confirms the rule.
2020-03-21 19:05
It's much rarer to see a top 24 year old then a top 20 year old. Just look at the damn lists every year. 24 isn't uncommon but it's certainly in the minority. Over like 22 or 23 generally tbh.
2020-03-21 19:24
Magisk was 19yo when he joined Astralis
2020-03-21 18:50
#112
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Denmark Notallama
Which explains...?
2020-03-21 19:07
Most people saw Magisk as being a pretty solid up-and-coming player. Anyone who thought he wouldn't perform well hadn't been watching matches. He was also fucking 19, which meant he had room to grow.
2020-03-21 19:17
The Danish scene has so much God damned talent right now, a ton of it in the younger players, and they pick up es3tag? He's not a bad player, but he's not a terribly amazing one either, and at 24 you're better off with someone who hasn't hit their top form yet.
2020-03-21 19:16
stavn >Es3tag
2020-03-21 18:22
bubzkji sjuush>3s3tag for the future
2020-03-21 18:27
#115
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Austria SplasJ
Also both of those over stavn
2020-03-21 19:08
trashstralis inc
2020-03-21 18:23
wtf
2020-03-21 18:23
lol why
2020-03-21 18:24
#66
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Finland J3bediah
Astralis should NOT make any fucking moves what the fuck?
2020-03-21 18:25
#67
Cabbi | 
Denmark LYXO
New Meta O_O inc
2020-03-21 18:25
#68
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Estonia RopzTop1
No way Astralis what are you doing
2020-03-21 18:25
What a fucking mess. Had ESL spot, lose it, go to flashpoint and might lose that as well.
2020-03-21 18:26
Jeopardy (by The Sound) is a great album, I really recommend giving it a try!
2020-03-21 18:26
What about Felicia slay ??
2020-03-22 02:40
i hope the original trio doesn't get torn apart, that would be sooo sad((((((((
2020-03-21 18:26
Dupreeh has been shit since IEM katowice 2019 apart from Blast pro globals, it's obvious he needs to go and es3tag fits his role perfectly
2020-03-21 18:28
Why es3tag? I am not hating on the guy but he is infamously bad at shooting heads. Look at his HS ratio it is insanely bad for a rifler and I am unsure if he can compete at the very tippy top of competitve cs for that reason alone. I might be wrong tho who knows. Dupreeh has been looking shaky but I do not think this is the right move from Astralis but great for Es3tag hope he proves me wrong.
2020-03-21 18:28
He's not a rifler
2020-03-21 18:30
He is a hybrid at best. In funplus Cadian was the main rifler and in Astralis that role is taken by device. I consider hybrid players riflers as they often are playing with the rifle even if they pick up a second awp from time to time.
2020-03-21 18:32
Cadian was the main awper*
2020-03-21 18:32
You can edit your reply men
2020-03-21 23:03
#86
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Libya nanaichini
Ha I know how it goes Astralis just want to ruin heroic/FPX like what complexity did to mad lions!
2020-03-21 18:30
Mad Lions ruined themselves by kicking their IGL just like Ence did.
2020-03-21 18:33
#98
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Denmark Notallama
Hmm?
2020-03-21 18:45
#92
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Turkey orox2
Patrick "TwoFaced" Toledo
2020-03-21 18:34
+GodHunden for FunPlus, EZ TIER 1
2020-03-21 18:48
F ASTRALIS, TOXIC TEAM
2020-03-21 18:53
astralis highest iq team in history? swapping 5th players to mess with the opponent
2020-03-21 18:54
wtf
2020-03-21 18:55
bad
2020-03-21 18:56
Why though? Can't FPX just get another danish player with the money they get from astralis buying out es3tag?
2020-03-21 19:02
This org is trying to buy Heroic team don't use logic against them
2020-03-21 23:01
#155
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Denmark MeToxi
Not easy when they wanted a proven lineup? One they had seen function together.
2020-03-21 23:36
like ago :P
2020-03-21 19:03
turkey best country lmao
2020-03-21 19:06
+1 ate kebab yesterday was the best
2020-03-21 20:45
lol
2020-03-21 21:04
Botsralis
2020-03-21 19:15
wtffffffffffffffff
2020-03-21 19:25
Why would astralis do this? What a fucking horrible move.
2020-03-21 19:29
#133
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China M1rAiwOw
Fly Phoenix Fly
2020-03-21 19:43
i feel a dejavu lol, is this kjaerbye thing all over again? funplus will become better than astralis, and es3 will get fucked
2020-03-21 19:51
fpx: i wanna return it!!! hhhh
2020-03-21 20:22
Sentence chinese hear the most
2020-03-21 20:38
danes want to make some money from chinese
2020-03-21 20:27
#147
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Finland 0lter
astralis biggest snakes of Cs
2020-03-21 21:49
Sources tell me Astralis is doing this as a promotional stunt for Tropico 6
2020-03-21 22:02
#156
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United States GiantDays
10mIQ
2020-03-21 23:56
would be nice to see every team having 10 players and swaping them depending on the map choice and also during the time out swaping players would be an awersome addition obviusly with him already on the posision ready to playe
2020-03-22 00:00
200iq
2020-03-22 00:26
It would be even nicer to see Astralis buyout the Na'Vi roster and sub them in on certain maps.
2020-03-22 00:52
next major: astralis(astralis) wins the first map opponent wins the second map astralis(navi) wins the third map
2020-03-22 01:32
What a shit show
2020-03-22 01:34
Substitutes in cs aswell? Wtf
2020-03-22 01:42
Wow. I thought it was a done deal
2020-03-22 08:35
of course he will want to transfer to astralis. He got swayed by Cadian's drama crying in rogue and so is the rest of the team and sponsor heroic then he realizes the truth, that he won't reach anything with cadian so there he goes
2020-03-22 08:51
Wtf
2020-03-22 09:42
6 plaer vs 5 plaer ASTRALIS YOU CETERS
2020-03-22 10:25
typical astralizzz
2020-03-22 10:55
He won’t replace anyone, ya ll brainless af, device dupreeh and xyp literally co own Astralis
2020-03-22 11:24
Guys, this is nothing new
2020-03-23 15:45
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