Astralis: "es3tag will be a part of the team on equal terms with everybody else"

We spoke to Astralis' coach, Danny "zonic" Sørensen, and Sports Director, Kasper Hvidt, following the signing of Patrick "es3tag" Hansen to find out more about why the organization created a six-man roster and how it will be utilized.

es3tag's signing will only come into effect at the beginning of July, but Astralis' move towards a six-man roster has been making big waves in the community since it was announced on Sunday. The recurring topic of an extended lineup has been brought to life once again after the Danish powerhouse turned the largely unexplored idea into reality, raising questions about its viability and potential upsides and downsides.

Perhaps the most commonly discussed concern is that the sixth man will essentially become a glorified stand-in who will only play when one of the starting lineup players is unavailable. zonic, who has on his shoulders the responsibility of making lineup decisions as the coach, stressed this will not be the case with their newest signing but admitted that there will be some preference in who gets to play:

"es3tag will be a part of the team on equal terms with everybody else," he told HLTV.org. "We will have six players on the team, not five and a substitute. Some will play more than others, but we focus on long-term performance and the health of the players, and I do think everybody will sit out a tournament."

es3tag will not be just a substitute, zonic stressed

But whichever lineup plays the tournament that come next, everyone will take part in all forms of preparation. "Everybody will be a part of preparation, practice and team work," the coach said. "I am sure we will change things as we go along, adopt and find new and improved ways for the individual players and for the group, but what we do will count for all players."

Astralis' main motivation behind the move is clearly the long-term improvement of the lineup's fitness. People recover from fatigue at different rates and the addition of another player, who is ready to step in at any point, gives the team the ability to properly handle recovery and deal with situations like sudden illnesses or injuries more effectively, says Astralis' Sports Director, Kasper Hvidt, a retired handball goalkeeper who played for the Danish national team.

"A really important issue in our considerations regarding the sixth player is rest and taking away a burden from the shoulders of the players," he told HLTV.org. "Nobody is able to work 24/7/365, not even CS:GO players. At the moment, the pressure on every player is huge because they know the team cannot practice or play if you get ill, cut your finger, or something similar. The main principle in regards to competitiveness is that we can use as many players as possible that are close to 100 percent mental and physical fitness. It should give all players a better chance to actually bounce back and recover when they are not at 100 percent, whereas today, they never have the chance to fully recharge."

Astralis have faced scenarios like these before and they caused the team to either decline participation at some tournaments (IEM Sydney 2019, for example) or use stand-ins at others, like when Peter "dupreeh" Rasmussen was sidelined after the group stage of ESL One Cologne 2016, causing zonic to step in for the playoffs, and when Nicolai "device" Reedtz took medical leave at the end of 2017 and was replaced by Dennis "dennis" Edman and Ruben "RUBINO" Villarroel at the last two events of the year.

Astralis aren't planning changing players mid-game or mid-tournament for now

Another potential upside of an extended roster is to use it for tactical purposes and find ways to make the team more unpredictable in-game by swapping players mid-match or mid-tournament. While that wasn't on Astralis' minds when they made the decision, it might become an option in the future. "Our decision is strategic and not tactical," zonic explained. "It is not the idea to swap players during a game or a tournament, but I would be stupid if I told you we will not consider this an option in the long run. Everything to do with this is around performance, and the health of our players is a vital part of being able to perform tournament after tournament, season after season."

So what is it that made es3tag the right choice for this purpose? The 24-year-old's versatility, which stems from periodically switching between several roles in the last three years in Heroic, and familiarity with Astralis' culture from when the two teams were under RFRSH at the same time (up to late 2018) were two key factors.

"We looked for a versatile player who could step in and hit the ground running, so to speak," zonic said . "Our preference was for someone who knew the culture in and around the team, someone who was a team player and a player with a high base level. Patrick can take almost all roles on a team and we're fortunate to get a player who has actually been a part of the performance culture in our organization. And then he's a good guy, which also means a lot in terms of the way we want to work as a group."

But while all this sounds great in theory, there are certainly some obstacles Astralis will need to overcome to make this work to the full extent. Not all parts of the scene are prepared for a six-man setup, even though the organization has made an effort to change that. "I think it is obvious that the CS scene is built to accommodate a five-man roster, focusing very much on players rather than teams," Mr. Hvidt pointed out. "Whether it is the world rankings, tournament rules, the infrastructure around the tournaments or events, or the physical set-up in boot camp facilities, it's the same."

Some organizers like BLAST and ESL can already accommodate extra members, but, most notably, Valve's Major rules only allow five-man rosters and a coach, who can also act as a substitute, and lineups are set weeks to months prior to the event. "We have a very constructive relationship with most if not all stakeholders, and adding a sixth team member is something that we discuss with our colleagues," Astralis' Sports Director explained, before clarifying that changing the scene wasn't the organisation's main goal. "I would like to stress that this move is not about having six players in every competition and tournament, but something we have done to support the players. Do I think that ultimately everybody should be able to have six players included in the tournament rosters? Absolutely. It has not been our primary focus, though."

Perhaps the most important question is whether introducing another player to the lineup could be detrimental to the team's chemistry. zonic understands those concerns and is prepared for the additional challenges, but, on the whole, he is more than confident that this will contribute positively to his players' health and careers.

"There are always insecurities and open questions when you do something new," he admitted. "I think that a lot of fans and experts have raised some real and obvious concerns, and I am not going to tell you we have found a perfect solution to every obstacle a CS team encounters. We're not blind and this will require a lot of work from everybody and it will mean that our culture around open communication on the team will be even more important than ever. What I will say, though, is that I have absolutely zero doubt that this will contribute positively to the players' mental and physical health and it will ultimately help extend careers."

Denmark Patrick 'es3tag' Hansen
Patrick 'es3tag' Hansen
Age:
24
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
1043
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.15
Denmark Danny 'zonic' Sørensen
Danny 'zonic' Sørensen
Age:
33
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.75
Maps played:
20
KPR:
0.49
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.11
Denmark Peter 'dupreeh' Rasmussen
Peter 'dupreeh' Rasmussen
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1618
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.14
Denmark Nicolai 'device' Reedtz
Nicolai 'device' Reedtz
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.17
Maps played:
1498
KPR:
0.78
DPR:
0.62
APR:
0.13
Sweden Dennis 'dennis' Edman
Dennis 'dennis' Edman
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
1194
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.12
Norway Ruben 'RUBINO' Villarroel
Ruben 'RUBINO' Villarroel
Age:
26
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
998
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.13
#1
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Finland Cucumber)) 
Good to know
2020-03-27 19:00
#10
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Faroe Islands hello_team 
why fan of Vega if they have no players?????????????
2020-03-27 19:01
#11
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Finland Cucumber)) 
BRO(((
2020-03-27 19:02
Vega_rekt_nip
2020-03-27 19:43
#68
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Finland Cucumber)) 
VEGA BEST TEAM
2020-03-27 19:47
#85
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Denmark Jeffersond 
Best maskot!!
2020-03-27 20:10
This is basically the end of Astralis as we know it. CS is not football or basketball.
2020-03-27 20:11
#88
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Finland Cucumber)) 
I ARE AGREE !!!)))))))))))))))))))
2020-03-27 20:12
#28
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Brazil Necro_Spa 
wtf men))
2020-03-27 19:15
#31
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United States hleev4 
why fan of Furia if they have no players????????????
2020-03-27 19:18
why fan of NAVI if they have 1 player????????????
2020-03-27 19:21
good one
2020-03-27 19:29
#50
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United States hleev4 
joke, Edward is a better player than you ever will be
2020-03-27 19:35
Zeus is not playing anymore :(
2020-03-27 19:35
#53
flusha | 
Finland ))) 
why fan of chrisJ if he is 1 player????????????
2020-03-27 19:36
why fan of flusha when he is 0 cheater?
2020-03-27 20:15
#54
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Denmark tyndlort 
hahaha +1
2020-03-27 19:36
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahaahahahahahahahahaahah
2020-03-27 19:40
#126
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Brazil oldStar 
Owned !
2020-03-28 00:46
8/8
2020-03-28 13:58
8/8
2020-03-30 10:10
I don't know why but dude when I read your comment I automatically burst out laughing maaaaan!! Sounded so sarcastic though xD firtst comment classic haha 'Good to know'
2020-03-27 19:49
#73
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Finland Cucumber)) 
Totally understandable xd)))
2020-03-27 19:53
Hahahah what a legend man! xD
2020-03-27 20:10
#2
grux | 
Montenegro Kladiz 
Bot
2020-03-27 19:00
#3
NiKo | 
Egypt MuXSS 
wut
2020-03-27 19:00
nboob
2020-03-27 19:00
#5
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United States jmarcelo 
cool
2020-03-27 19:00
i don't like it
2020-03-27 19:01
6x5 f5
2020-03-27 19:01
nt FPX will destroy Astralis
2020-03-27 19:01
who the fuck are they
2020-03-27 19:04
#64
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Canada U_S_of_Gay 
the next best NA team in Swole Patrol
2020-03-27 19:44
name, flair, flag... Everything check out
2020-03-27 20:33
#141
kennyS | 
China kn5 
and fpx is considering acquiring them
2020-03-28 06:02
#34
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Romania decis1ve 
who?
2020-03-27 19:19
#63
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Canada U_S_of_Gay 
+1 EZ 4 Swole
2020-03-27 19:44
fpx are already done after forming the team for 2 weeks ROFL btw is astralis killing fpx so, feel sorry the ex-heroic :(
2020-03-28 05:23
#9
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United Arab Emirates p1peb0mb 
2020-03-27 19:01
#12
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Korea 2020_new_2010 
joke
2020-03-27 19:03
#13
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Latvia Suspect)) 
6 is better that five i guess
2020-03-27 19:04
#15
allu | 
Finland AleksiBOT 
Doesn't look like that .
2020-03-27 19:04
It is very interesting thing. Ceh9 (ex-Na`Vi legend and "famous youtube") predicted such things some years ago. :D
2020-03-27 19:05
#17
valde | 
Sweden meistr0 
Well obviously. They added him to: 1. Put pressure on the other 5 players to perform. 2. As a backup-isch player for Device if Device gets some medical/health problem 3. Another voice that can help them with tactics and other stuff during praccs etc.
2020-03-27 19:05
#98
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North America toxicthegod 
3. not so much since he is new to the team but he will be able to frag for someone if they are having a bad game or tournament.
2020-03-27 20:30
#101
valde | 
Sweden meistr0 
" not so much since he is new to the team" Exactly? Aka a new voice with new ideas and what not.
2020-03-27 20:33
#102
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North America toxicthegod 
yeah but he is going to the most experienced team full of vets what knowledge is he bringing from heroic that they dont already know? thats what im saying
2020-03-27 20:34
#103
valde | 
Sweden meistr0 
I am not saying that hes bringing "knowledge", but when they go through demos and strats etc he can say "Why not do this?" etc, its, like i said, a new voice to the team. And clearly the 5 players believe in him, people calling him "waterboy" got no idea what they are talking about.
2020-03-27 20:39
#104
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North America toxicthegod 
based off Zonik he wont be doing much of that but i see what youre saying i just dont think at this level of play their is much of that left to be said
2020-03-27 20:46
#107
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Europe AlL1n 
Don't forget as new guy he will be raped by veteran comrades with sexual prsure and everybody fighting for alpha spot astralis will go to tier 3 and make us all boriatralis haters happy.
2020-03-27 21:12
#128
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Denmark RUZUR 
lol Nothing wrong with a little hope I guess
2020-03-28 00:51
#144
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Lithuania UnReportable 
You are acting like astralis is a perfect team with their strats
2020-03-28 06:35
#109
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Europe Joebama 
Idk about putting pressure on the players, considering es3tag is tier 2 at best where as everybody in astralis is tier 1 easily.
2020-03-27 21:39
#112
valde | 
Sweden meistr0 
" considering es3tag is tier 2 at best" Well, the thing is, Es3 can play several roles. Lurker, main AWPer/2nd AWPer and Entry. And, hes one of the better choices since players/youngsters such as Stavn, Bubzkji and acoR wouldnt join to be a "6th player", even though its a nice salary.
2020-03-27 22:21
In these roles depends on the level. I mean everybody can play awp, but on what level? He wouldn't win vs top 3 awp players also not vs a woxic etc.
2020-03-27 23:35
#122
valde | 
Sweden meistr0 
Well yeah ofc. Es3 did a really good job with the AWP vs T2 teams at least. So him being main AWPer or 2nd AWPer (if Device would be in the team when Es3 plays) is still a decent move.
2020-03-27 23:38
#129
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Denmark RUZUR 
Wow you guys still dont get. He dont need to be one of the best players in the world. He "just" need to be one of the best teamplayers in the world and that is something es2tag has proven to be.
2020-03-28 00:58
#136
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Europe Joebama 
My point is that he isnt a suitable replacement for anyone in case shit hits the fan
2020-03-28 02:46
4. add some hunger new to a squad that has won almost everything
2020-03-28 01:19
#145
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Australia HighRate 
Its a better option than zonic as a standin so not very hard decision to make. Taking in other stand in never works either. Look at Dig now. Useless without good communication between all five players. Standin don’t work. Common sense to get a sixth player as standin that practice with the team. He will probably quit when he realizes he only gets a paycheck but no playtime
2020-03-28 07:25
#161
valde | 
Sweden meistr0 
"He will probably quit when he realizes he only gets a paycheck but no playtime" Ur wrong. Hes gonna play at many events and so on, obv not the major, but other events Device still have problems and the team skips many events. Its obv that they picked Es3 cuz he can do multiple roles such as Entry, Lurk and AWP.
2020-03-28 11:14
#168
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Australia HighRate 
You will see. In every tournament with him they will be a tier 2 team. It won’t work.
2020-03-28 12:21
#174
valde | 
Sweden meistr0 
lol, false. Just because you change 1 player it doesnt mean the team becomes tier 2. Because Es3 is not replacing just 1 player, hes "replacing them all". He got added so the players know they arent "safe" and so they step up their game (I believe Zonic said this, cant remember) and obv because its a new voice in the team.
2020-03-28 12:48
#175
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Australia HighRate 
Lol of course he wasn’t added for that purpose. You listen too much to trolls on this site. “New voice in the team” he is a much worse player, it’s not like he knows the game better than the Astralis clan
2020-03-28 12:50
#176
valde | 
Sweden meistr0 
"You listen too much to trolls on this site." No? I read a lot what people say about this, not "listen" to trolls that type "Lul waterboy" or whatever You dont understand what i mean with “New voice in the team”. The players said this, since hes technically the "6th player" he can help them with VODs, tactics and other stuff, which can be important. Also, Es3 isnt a bad fragger at all, hes decent, and with solid teammates like the Astralis guys he will become better.
2020-03-28 13:09
#18
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Romania Jaggermeister 
maybe 6v5 they will manage to take more than 10 rounds in a bo3 against Na`Vi
2020-03-27 19:06
7/8
2020-03-27 19:15
8/8
2020-03-27 19:29
#65
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World Beard43 
Lmao
2020-03-27 19:45
#91
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Europe Vallon3 
5/8
2020-03-27 20:18
#146
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Australia HighRate 
Lol Navi fluke team. 0 majors..
2020-03-28 07:26
#203
HEN1 | 
Finland dvlx 
4
2020-04-14 03:39
#19
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Finland AleksibIsSexy 
So how does that work, would he get a sticker at the major?
2020-03-27 19:06
#29
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Canada razneK1789 
depends what roster they use for major
2020-03-27 19:17
#51
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Europe Juuzou_ 
Which immediately points out it can’t be equal whatsoever since sticker money is a thing. What are they gonna do? The average sticker money of the 5 attending players will be a bonus check for the 6th? Rofl
2020-03-27 19:35
Take the sticker money and split it up. I guess they already do it for their coach.
2020-03-27 23:33
#178
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Russia blessdevve 
Why he needs stickers money if he will have 50k salary
2020-03-28 13:19
of course not! that MFker peacemaker only sees money and tyloo lost chance to attend their first major! (BnTeT visa issue)
2020-03-30 14:24
Astralis vs AGO match plz
2020-03-27 19:07
6v7 still unfair But AGO bots wouldn't win more than 5 rounds in a single map
2020-03-27 19:30
If AGO sign one more player it will be 50/50 who wins
2020-03-28 12:17
6v7 pog
2020-03-27 19:42
25k for doing nothing
2020-03-27 19:07
#99
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North America toxicthegod 
thats it? can you send link?
2020-03-27 20:31
#131
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Denmark Muamelele 
wdym thats it lol
2020-03-28 01:21
#133
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North America toxicthegod 
im 20 and have a regular ass office job and i make more than that i hope his contract is for 6 months because that isnt a lot for a salary at all
2020-03-28 02:39
#134
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North America toxicthegod 
regular tier 1 players make close to double this a season for top 5 teams
2020-03-28 02:40
So you're saying 25k / month is a bad deal for him if that indeed would be his salary? If you have a regular office job ur definitely not making that lmao.
2020-03-28 04:59
#177
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Germany eloqueNNt 
He probably thinks it's the income per year
2020-03-28 13:15
#184
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Sweden dogtown 
you dont make more then him buddy, you dont make more then any pro gamer lol get your head out of your ass.
2020-03-28 15:00
#191
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North America toxicthegod 
salary isnt monthly lmaoooo its split into either weekly or biweekly pay periods and spread out hahahahaha you guys are stupid it is my legit job to pay people. and i receive a salary so i would understand how it works .
2020-03-28 19:09
#192
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North America toxicthegod 
salary is over the term of his contract so he will be receiving 25k total over the period of time he is playing for them thats what im saying is bad compared to other pro players who arent allowed to release the information but moe said in a video that liquid pays stew around 4,000 a month if these players were getting 25k a month they would be making $300,000 a year lmao most esports CEO's dont take that much on salary
2020-03-28 19:14
#194
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Iceland Cirros_V2 
Hiko said in his video that s1mple had offer to get paid 1 mil per year in liquid and? It still doesn't sound like truth
2020-03-29 16:26
#198
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North America toxicthegod 
i believe it for sure he is #1 player in the world
2020-03-31 15:01
#199
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Iceland Cirros_V2 
It's info from times when hiko was in liquid
2020-03-31 16:21
#200
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North America toxicthegod 
oh nvm then that was like 2015-2016 no way they paying that back then maybe in 2020 though i could see a million being possible
2020-03-31 16:23
#193
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Denmark Muamelele 
25k is not the salary tho wat r u talkin about, 25k is how much they get a month
2020-03-29 05:07
#22
Frankie | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
scam Astralis
2020-03-27 19:08
#23
Anders | 
Denmark Anderss 
right
2020-03-27 19:08
#24
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Poland gerald500 
give teams a year and teams will got 10 players 2 coaches and 100 creaw aroud them xd
2020-03-27 19:08
#147
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Australia HighRate 
How much money do you think they have?
2020-03-28 07:28
#156
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Poland gerald500 
manyyyyyyyyyyy look how many money they (astralis) won in 2019 + sponsors they got little bit less than billy the kid gates
2020-03-28 08:31
#165
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Australia HighRate 
A lot less than billy the kid gates
2020-03-28 12:17
Who will call if gla1ve will sit out the tourney?
2020-03-27 19:09
although none of the players can call midround as well as gla1ve probably, i don't think they'll be completely lost without him. esetag has experience calling and xyp, device, and dupreeh have played together for nearly a decade, so they're probably all on the same page on what needs to be done midround.
2020-03-27 20:16
You'd think that, but it could also not be the case, only future will tell.
2020-03-28 06:07
for sure
2020-03-28 10:00
doubt
2020-03-27 19:11
#30
fer | 
Brazil spiriteks 
the beginning of the end
2020-03-27 19:17
"es3tag will carry water and towels for us"
2020-03-27 19:18
I think it could become problematic for team cohesion with only six players, because you'll always have only one guy sitting out who will inevitably feel like he's a fifth wheel, and I feel like if they win a tournament the one who didn't play might not feel he contributed enough to the win to celebrate it as his own. I'd say you would need at least seven players to get that team spirit going like in other / traditional sports.
2020-03-27 19:19
#48
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Europe Juuzou_ 
I agree 100% especially since you can’t swap out players during a tournament if im correct. Otherwise it would be a good concept, in theory.
2020-03-27 19:32
#60
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Denmark Eagle3y3z 
You can swap between maps.
2020-03-27 19:42
#66
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Europe Juuzou_ 
Not in majors my friend. Roster locks.
2020-03-27 19:46
#76
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Denmark Eagle3y3z 
lol didn't know that, thx. So only in majors? Because then at least they can use him for normal events
2020-03-27 19:56
#127
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Canada razneK1789 
definitely for majors. just imagine 6 players winning major lol
2020-03-28 00:47
yeah it would be better if they could change a player during the tournament, just like LoL so the sixth player would always have a chance to play in every single tournament if a player on the roster plays bad
2020-03-27 19:47
#49
kennyS | 
France Bituron 
More like a sixth wheel 😂😂😂👌👌👌👌😭😭😭
2020-03-27 19:34
I admit I was thinking about it haha
2020-03-27 19:58
#132
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Denmark RUZUR 
Could very well be true, on the short lane. But I sure it will be the future. All team sports have a bench with substitutes and while its never fun to be sitting on it, it has some obvious advantages. 1. If a player is sick (they always complain about playing while sick) then he can rest up and get well without the team having to use a random available stand-in. 2. If a player is on the bench for bad performance, then it gives them a chance to grow even more hungry and improve their game. 3. If a player keep preforming badly, then they can do a roster change without having a big impact on the teams formlevel. 4. Fan and Media pressure, for the new player, will be nothing compared now, where everyone expect the new player to save the team.
2020-03-28 01:24
#148
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Australia HighRate 
How you think a goalie in NHL feels if he don’t get to play any matches? It’s the same thing in all sports. If you don’t participate and contribute you feel like you are sidelined
2020-03-28 07:30
Lol "We will have six players on the team, not five and a substitute. Some will play more than others" Esetag is a equal member, but will play much less than everyone else.
2020-03-27 19:21
#37
valde | 
Sweden meistr0 
"Esetag is a equal member, but will play much less than everyone else." Depends. #17
2020-03-27 19:23
Who AWP if device can't attend? When he can attend i'd assume he would fight for Xyp/dupreehs spot
2020-03-27 19:26
#58
valde | 
Sweden meistr0 
Es3tag can AWP m8
2020-03-27 19:42
#81
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Pakistan LoOuU2 
Dupreeh isnt a bad awper at all , he can do it as he used to do it once before.
2020-03-27 20:00
#149
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Australia HighRate 
Dupreeh and magisk can awp
2020-03-28 07:31
LOL yea right im sure he'll play as much as device and glaive and magisk
2020-03-27 19:23
#82
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Pakistan LoOuU2 
literally the 3 most important players in the team , generally you would only think to swap Xyp or Dupreeh for him.
2020-03-27 20:01
which is why he isnt an equal member of the team
2020-03-27 20:22
#96
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Pakistan LoOuU2 
i agree with you on that , only when fielding in the team we will know who gets how many chances
2020-03-27 20:26
Bet
2020-03-27 19:23
nvm
2020-03-27 19:29
#45
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Europe Juuzou_ 
Rofl. Astralis using the famous FC bayern tactic. Weaken opposition by buying their players. In 2 years astralis have 10 man roster on equal terms
2020-03-27 19:30
#77
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Switzerland MRKNUSPER 
lmao sure... title contenders FPX became too strong for Astralis to handle
2020-03-27 19:57
#79
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Europe Juuzou_ 
Why so serious..? Jeez
2020-03-27 19:58
#137
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Sweden dogtown 
everyone here is dumb, first of all no top pro is going to be a bench player, also no org can afford a top pro to be wasted on the bench.. they got estag because hes bang average and is a non ambitious player.
2020-03-28 04:08
#150
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Australia HighRate 
No shit. They would never get a good 6th player/standin
2020-03-28 07:32
#155
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Sweden dogtown 
Yes this is why 6 players will never work in CSGO, because you have a shit 6th player as a rotation which means everytime he plays who ever is holding site with that player is going to be more nervous which means he will play worse because he is always worrying what the other player is doing.. It's fkn dumb. I hate that people think this is the future of CSGO. It's a dead project before it even starts.
2020-03-28 08:17
#163
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Australia HighRate 
Well. Every tourney someone is sick or something they would need a standin anyway. This way they at least get someone with some basics with the team from training. Better than a random or sonic
2020-03-28 12:17
They should go for 6v5 ez
2020-03-27 19:31
1v6 clutch incoming
2020-03-27 21:22
Finally 1vs10 for S1mple
2020-03-27 23:30
#151
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Australia HighRate 
Pimple 0 majors
2020-03-28 07:33
Even though they are all good guys I doubt they would be selfless enough to just give up a spot in a major even if one of them was in a slump, curious how this will work out
2020-03-27 19:36
#152
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Australia HighRate 
Read the article
2020-03-28 07:33
I did
2020-03-28 08:49
#166
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Australia HighRate 
He will standin when one of the regulars can’t play. That is how it will work.
2020-03-28 12:18
Perhaps the most commonly discussed concern is that the sixth man will essentially become a glorified stand-in who will only play when one of the starting lineup players is unavailable. zonic, who has on his shoulders the responsibility of making lineup decisions as the coach, stressed this will not be the case with their newest signing but admitted that there will be some preference in who gets to play:
2020-03-28 12:29
#172
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Australia HighRate 
Of course he will say that.
2020-03-28 12:36
What else was I supposed to get from the article then?
2020-03-28 13:23
answer me maybe?
2020-03-28 16:11
#186
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Australia HighRate 
missed your first reply. If you read the article you can understand that the signing is more for the other players to feel that its ok to take a tournament of. If they are overworked, sick or whatever they are ok to take a break for a tournament. This is for the best of the team. So they can keep performing in the long run. It is to make it better for the core. When the core players want to play they will play. They wont bench anyone of them for a tier 3 standin Zonic have to be diplomatic and say the right things you know.
2020-03-28 16:19
yeah, but my point was that even if one of them felt overworked etc. he would still probably force himself to play in the major even if the rest of the team would be against him, in the end they would probably talk him out of it, but it will probably fuck up the atmosphere in the team.
2020-03-28 16:26
#188
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Australia HighRate 
what do you mean? If say magisk is overworked, he would force himself to play but the rest in astralis would not want him to play? I think everyone in Astralis want to see their core lineup even if they are not 100%
2020-03-28 16:28
Major is a pretty big deal, I guess they wouldn't mind sitting out some EPL, but they (at least in my opinion) wouldn't give up a major spot willingly.
2020-03-28 16:30
#190
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Australia HighRate 
I think they are all overworked rn. so we will see the standin in some smaller tournaments this year. But when they are all back to 100% he wont be needed and just sit on the bench most of the time. As you say they will all play majors if they are not really sick or something.
2020-03-28 16:33
#57
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Ukraine Taira 
sure Kappa dude who gonna sit and watch not on "EQUAL"
2020-03-27 19:42
#62
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Asia Jandasemok 
I guess when it comes to some non major tourney, they'll be fine. But deciding who is gonna be left out on valve major, it's gonna bring a lot of issues, cos obviously every pro player want to play and win major. And if they can overcome all this problems, 6 man rosters are gonna be a long term real shit. A gigantic power
2020-03-27 19:44
+1 the majors stand out to me, that would be a really bad situation
2020-03-27 19:58
#84
ANa | 
Asia Jandasemok 
Luckily, the major postponed till November, so they got all the time to figure out this dilemma.
2020-03-27 20:09
#83
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Pakistan LoOuU2 
what if they force Valve to change the rules ? or other teams look to Astralis , adopt the same shit in their rosters and they all force Valve to do it ?
2020-03-27 20:02
#94
ANa | 
Asia Jandasemok 
It could happen, but I aren't think this year will do. IMO, it'll be unfair to the other team if they can play with 6 man rosters in a single tourney, cos it'll be hard for the opponent to prepare many strats which depends on what rosters will astralis uses. But if astralis prevails, others will copy this system and valve may change the rules. Nonetheless, it takes time u know.
2020-03-27 20:21
#97
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Pakistan LoOuU2 
that unfair is the reason why Astralis went for it , literally the 1 out of 2 reasons one could think for it before even they stated it.
2020-03-27 20:27
Valve change only rules if they think it has to be. Like what they did with coach changes. What they did in Dota with the TI qualifier via DPC etc. Nothing of this things was aked by the team or players.
2020-03-27 23:28
#117
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Pakistan LoOuU2 
i dont know about DOTA one but maybe all the other owners doing the same as Astralis might just force them to ? Thats what i am saying.
2020-03-27 23:29
Valve will only change it if THEY think it is okay. They will never feel forced to do anything.
2020-03-27 23:29
#153
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Australia HighRate 
He will only play if any of the other 5 decides not to play. How hard can it be to understand?
2020-03-28 07:34
Please read the whole article dude.
2020-03-28 09:03
#167
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Australia HighRate 
I did. It’s not hard to understand. He will only play when one of the regulars can’t play.
2020-03-28 12:20
They're all equal. Some more than others
2020-03-27 19:47
#154
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Australia HighRate 
Like Sweden and Finland. Equal but Sweden big brother and richer.
2020-03-28 07:35
Yeah just like UK and Australia
2020-03-28 12:27
#171
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Australia HighRate 
Yes. One is cold and got Boris other got great weather and money 🙂
2020-03-28 12:35
Kind of like UK's Mexico
2020-03-28 13:50
#181
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Australia HighRate 
more like UK´s heaven
2020-03-28 13:54
#71
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Netherlands meneert 
ez4astralis
2020-03-27 19:49
#74
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Europe Nomarosa 
He should get a good haircut
2020-03-27 19:55
#75
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Spain elskio 
IDK what are they doing bff
2020-03-27 19:56
#92
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Yugoslavia bleaq 
stealing a living
2020-03-27 20:20
#93
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Bulgaria AboveYall 
maybe its good for dev1ce's health condition and es3tag gives them the option to move the roles around and surprise teams with new set-ups.
2020-03-27 20:21
Kick botreeh ffs
2020-03-27 20:54
tht astralis pic xdd dupreeh looks like a derp
2020-03-27 21:06
xaxaxaxa inb4 navi +6th man substitute s1mple cos carried too hard too often
2020-03-27 21:40
Astralis just said goodbye to n1 spot forever
2020-03-27 22:14
+1
2020-03-27 22:41
+1
2020-04-02 00:55
#114
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Denmark white_sheep 
Astralis showing the way yet again.
2020-03-27 23:17
What betas. S1mple is always on 100% 24/7 365 days a year. Why they say nobody can?? Never accept that ecovice will stay behind s1mple forever?
2020-03-27 23:26
#123
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Algeria muvit 
s1mple is nothing in 2019
2020-03-28 00:02
even in a rough year with his team. Still 1.30 rating. Ecovice won majors etc and still too bad.
2020-03-28 00:25
#125
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India iejesus 
Ok
2020-03-28 00:35
*except the part owners.
2020-03-28 02:44
#140
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Ukraine methazine 
ahahaha ye ofc
2020-03-28 05:40
#159
BnTeT | 
Indonesia kyon_ 
Nice move
2020-03-28 09:06
#162
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Sweden axelious 
I'll believe it when I see it
2020-03-28 11:35
I feel Astralis is very optimistic ? It will take a lot of time to make es3tag understanding Astralis playing style. It will take time, because these guys have been together for many years, they know each others very well. es3tag is maybe a good player and a nice guy, but to think he will be fitting in there from day 1is a big mistake. es3tag need time, he need a lot of time ,, and then maybe he will stay with Astralis. I will not be surprised if es3tag is not with Astralis in 1 or 2 years. Anyway. Good luck
2020-03-28 14:02
-zonic +hunden thats better than adding esetag
2020-03-30 05:06
SO WHEN IS HE PLAYING
2020-04-14 03:41
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