ANGE1: "I needed a new challenge [...] to prove that it’s too early to write me off"

We caught up with Kirill "ANGE1" Karasiow, who explained his decision to part ways with HellRaisers, why he wasn't able to join Natus Vincere and whether he feels he will reach a form reminiscent of his 2017 showings.

The Ukrainian veteran closed a chapter in his career last week as he parted ways with HellRaisers, the organisation he had helped to build in 2014 following his departure from Astana Dragons. During his six-year stint, he led the team to eight Majors, three of which with playoff appearances (EMS One Katowice 2014, DreamHack Winter 2014 and the FACEIT Major 2018), and to a handful of international titles.

ANGE1 will be focusing on his personal performance in the near future

In a conversation with ANGE1, we discussed his feelings about the departure and which iteration of the various HellRaisers rosters he found most memorable. We also touched on his involvement in the decision-making process behind the highly-scrutinized roster adjustments of late, and why his outstanding form of 2017 has not been replicated.

You've concluded a six-year tenure with HellRaisers. What does it feel like to part ways with an organization that you had been part of for such a long time?

My first feeling was sadness, but I also felt that I had been stagnating and wasn’t developing as a player and an in-game leader for quite some time now. I needed a new challenge, one that would allow me to prove that it’s too early to write me off.

In the announcement, you mentioned that you are up for any offers. Will you consider working in an international setting once more, or would you prefer to lead a Russian-speaking team?

It doesn’t really matter what language the team will speak. The players on roster and the organization that I will represent are more important.

Of the various iterations of HellRasiers, which did you find most memorable?

I gave a small part of myself to every single roster I was in, so it’s difficult to point out a single one. I have warm memories of the roster with STYKO, Zero, bondik and DeadFox, and when we were able to breach top 8 in the HLTV.org world rankings in spite of all expectations. Securing Legends status with ISSAA and woxic was also memorable, but working with those two shaved off a few years of my life (laughs).

You described the decision to part ways with the organization as a "step out of your comfort zone". How do you think will this impact your progression as a player?

I can finally take a break and dedicate time towards developing myself as both a player and an in-game leader. An endless string of rosters, each with its own set goals, really takes a toll on you, and you don’t always have the opportunity to spend some time to develop yourself. In the next couple of weeks, I want to play for my own pleasure.

In a previous interview, you mentioned that you felt you hadn't yet left your mark on CS:GO. Is this change in a bid to finally achieve that? Will you approach the coming times differently than how you did before?

Indeed, I know that I haven’t yet shown everything that I’m capable of, and I hope that these changes will help activate me. As for approaches, it’s relative and very individual. You need to understand who you’re working with, their motivations and their strengths. I’m of the opinion that you need to focus on your players’ strong sides, and the rest depends on them.

There has been a lot of criticism regarding the moves HellRaisers have made in the last 18 months. How involved were you in the decision-making process of the organization?

I take full responsibility for everything that was happening within the roster for the past six months, and while most of the players were signed as free agents, I genuinely believed that we could've grown to become a serious contender. It’s pretty difficult to get a roster together in CIS without a spare million dollars.

In the past, it was suggested that the only reason why you didn’t leave to join NAVI was because you wanted to stay in HellRaisers, the organization you had helped to build. Was this accurate? Do you still own a stake in the organization?

The only reason why I didn’t join NAVI at the time was the slightly heightened appetites of the people that were agreeing my transfer and the unexpected return of Zeus from Gambit. Regarding my stake in the organization, yes, but it was small, and due to my departure from HellRaisers, I will no longer have it.

You made a name for yourself as a strong in-game leader with a high skill ceiling. In 2017, you averaged a 1.15 LAN rating, but in 2018 and 2019, your numbers were in the red. How do you explain this dip in form? Are you confident that you will be able to go back to your best form?

Due to constant roster changes over the past couple of years I really didn’t have enough time to work on my individual game, and as time goes by, you need to dedicate progressively more time to that aspect of play. Now I have the perfect opportunity to take some time off and focus solely on myself, so a return to form, in my opinion, is just a question of time.

What is your opinion about the current state of the CIS scene? NAVI are at the top of the world right now, but everyone else seems to be struggling, even Virtus.pro and forZe...

I think CIS Counter-Strike is currently on the rise, and I might even say it’s at its peak. Four to five teams can put up a fight against practically any team in the world, plus NAVI reached number one in the rankings, albeit not too long ago.

Ukraine Kirill 'ANGE1' Karasiow
Kirill 'ANGE1' Karasiow
Age:
30
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
1728
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.71
APR:
0.17
#1
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Japan Inhabitant 
good luck m8
2020-04-07 13:16
#3
Sugar | 
Europe Daddy! 
Should retire.
2020-04-07 13:16
No, he is good
2020-04-07 13:18
If you think he is good, then he is not.
2020-04-07 14:20
+1
2020-04-07 14:54
Finally out of HR
2020-04-07 17:52
You never support me mens :((
2020-04-07 15:56
#147
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Japan Amatsuk1 
Hltv community
2020-04-07 17:15
Understandable
2020-04-07 17:32
#184
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Indonesia lumayan 
+1
2020-04-08 03:32
6 years with HR, 5 teams has created around him and all of them was suck. The highest achievement was only top8 in majors. Not even won some DreamHacks. Cuz he's suck as IGL - even HObbit was bad with him
2020-04-07 14:57
+1
2020-04-07 20:45
#48
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Norway Nigotess 
+1, what this boomer thinks of himself, ahaha.
2020-04-07 13:59
He should retire or his name wont be remembered
2020-04-07 14:06
Reminder to all the haters and ignorant kids, - 15 years in pro CS. Many of you weren't even born by the time he was touring international Lans - ANGE1 and his VP squad smashed NiP 2 times in BO3, ending their 87-0 LAN streak in 2014 - ANGE1 qualified for the majors with 3 entirely different squads within the span of csgo - Quite a number of players got the needed exposure and boost of their careers thanks to ANGE1. ISSA, woxic, Zero, bondik, Styko, oskar, flamie all should be thank ANGE1 for picking them up I might be missing a few things Show some respect ffs
2020-04-07 17:43
#159
Nessa | 
United Kingdom rezinho 
truly respect this message
2020-04-07 18:34
+1 true, he may be bad fragger now but he still deserves our respect for playing the hardest role in the game for over a decade and bringing up talent
2020-04-07 18:38
+1
2020-04-07 21:07
obv respect to ange1 but how he played a long time ago doesnt really apply anymore
2020-04-07 23:34
+1 show some respect!
2020-04-07 23:34
#181
XigN | 
Indonesia RaMzz412 
+1 i dont think IGL-ing is an easy task to do ingame.. ANGE1 need to boost himself first and looking for players and ORG to represent !
2020-04-08 03:01
#187
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Argentina borishdp 
all of his ex teammates said that they learned a lot thanks to him and is a infralorated player
2020-04-08 18:50
#193
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Russia RAVTagsta 
Very true. Beast reminder!
2020-04-10 21:07
#2
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Spain chanSw0w 
last roster dont have sense
2020-04-07 13:16
#4
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Norway AleXeiCS 
good luck bud
2020-04-07 13:17
bot
2020-04-07 13:17
gl
2020-04-07 13:17
Stop corona, take it as a challenge
2020-04-07 13:17
- Adren + this dickhead - Sanji + Dima and VP are fine
2020-04-07 13:19
- Adren + ange1 seems possible enough, not sure about Sanji tho, as he is a good support, as in, he does everything to put other players in his team first and players like that are a rarity
2020-04-07 13:25
this kid doesn't understand cs so no point in pointing out the obvious
2020-04-07 13:27
Lmao I'm probably older than you
2020-04-07 13:32
Its true what he said baguette
2020-04-07 13:46
yes, he turns all the work on his team's leaders' shoulders by creating ideal conditions for them, but if Jame have bad day, than Sanji's work is useless as well. Imo its better to have player like Dima, which can support and rise in trouble times and carry his team. Exactly what Perfecto showed yesterday on Overpass and Dust ll CT sides
2020-04-07 13:41
You answered this yourself tho, he would work good if Jame would be more consistent, Sanji could pretty much be what RPK is to Vitality if Jame would be as consistent as ZyWoo is to Vitality
2020-04-07 19:36
#192
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United States Shmikeb0b 
when AVANGAR first picked up SANJI he was their topfragger. Even took on Astralis in a close series once off the back of his performance. Now he's playing support for the streakiest lineup in CIS. He's tasked with utility and buying drops for his teammates, plus hitting entry when qikert has potato aim. No kidding his stats are gonna be bad; he has either the worst role, or he has to play 3 roles at once whenever his team is on the back foot. Never since has the AVG/VP core come so close to beating Astralis.
2020-04-10 19:51
#10
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CIS eddie42 
clown... used to love this guy, now he's burnt out AF and talking crap about writing off people. just retire already and leave it to the youngsters lol
2020-04-07 13:18
he's still a great IGL and if what he says becomes reality, he might become a good-fragging IGL as well
2020-04-07 13:25
#18
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CIS eddie42 
I don't believe in such resurrections, not after this many years. Think about all those players who retired in the last decade because of constant mediocrity, Ange1 wasn't even that good on his prime. So yeah, if he's such a good igl he should retire and be an analyst or something. Not a coach tho.
2020-04-07 13:29
Well the CIS region doesn't have that many IGLs (that are decent/good), so I think ANGE1 still has a point to prove
2020-04-07 14:26
CIS has not many teams that play tier1/2. Navi, Forze and a little bit VP there is no much space to prove.
2020-04-07 15:00
hence why I said #75
2020-04-07 15:02
Why do you mention the fact there are"few IGL" when you only have 3 teams that need IGL at the pro level? When you have only 3 teams you only need 3 IGL and so it doesn't matter
2020-04-07 15:08
#109
2020-04-07 15:16
jerry is after two years more relevant as IGL than this guy in the last 6
2020-04-07 13:34
maybe because jerry is 21 and ange1 is 30? how about you use your brain jerry is insane tho
2020-04-07 14:25
Maybe figure out what i mean and use ur dead brain. It is time for talents not for oldies
2020-04-07 14:59
but you do realize that young talents aren't usually IGLs, right? CS only has a few young IGLs such as Jerry, Aleksib, Boombl4 ANGE1 can still play in a t2 CIS team
2020-04-07 15:02
in VP or where? there are no tier 2 cis teams
2020-04-07 15:09
Spirit, pro100, VP, G. Youngsters????????
2020-04-07 15:16
They would have to drop the "Youngsters" part if they pick up ANGE1.
2020-04-07 19:05
He was never great IGL, not even just good.
2020-04-07 20:47
0/8
2020-04-07 21:51
#191
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Ukraine Chipaet 
It is his life. He wanna try to build a new strong team, so why not? Is Ange1 a global problem for youngsters? :D
2020-04-09 18:41
#11
World yjen 
boosted
2020-04-07 13:22
shit igl, should've retired 5 years ago
2020-04-07 13:23
#13
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United States flex_ 
gl hope he can join a good team!
2020-04-07 13:24
#17
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Russia FL1T 
He is CIS HUNDEN
2020-04-07 13:28
#151
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Ukraine beazztov 
More like B1ad3 CIS Hunden
2020-04-07 17:25
better than boombla in every aspect! i hope he will replace him soon
2020-04-07 13:31
Hes not as good fragger as boombla, actually hes like 2 levels below him. Guy has negative rating vs T2-3-4 opponents. Ye and that replacing thing, thats just low bait, right :) That said, i can see him in some team IGLing. Maybe some CIS team might give him last chance.
2020-04-07 13:38
0/8, boombl4 is literally better than this washedup garbage in every possible aspect
2020-04-07 14:26
+1
2020-04-07 14:32
#20
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Australia aussie_billy 
Last time HR was relevant was so long ago.. I still hope ange1 will find a team.
2020-04-07 13:31
bad news ur done m8
2020-04-07 13:31
standard statement from any pro after disband he had years to prove himself and he fucked up. cannot take this words serious.
2020-04-07 13:32
Haha sure you will win a major :D I understand when he doesn't want to retire but to think that he will be relevant again LUL. Zeus is more relevant after his retirement than this guy
2020-04-07 13:33
Dude never say never. Everyone thought Zeus is over after kick from Na`Vi. But he won a Major, did amazing short career in Gambit and did Godlike top2 performance with Na`Vi in 2018 fighting with Astralis. You can never now... I don't like ANGE1 cuz of his move with Na`Vi / markeloff / Edward, but let's be honest here. :)
2020-04-07 13:47
You can know. All relevant CIS teams have an IGL. And Zeus came back to Navi cuz it is the only CIS org and team that has the player to play for titles. The time is over for the 30 years old dudes, except when they can deliver something to a team. Krimz has some great performances and he is a player you can always count on. Karrigan also almost 30 can still motivate and work with young players. But this guy brings nothing on the table that is relevant for a team. Also, Zeus is a personality that has a hell of an influence on his team. Also nothing this guy delivers.
2020-04-07 13:52
Believe me, ANGE1 is VERY influensive person when we are talking about his personal cirle of players.
2020-04-07 13:54
that is why none of his teams and players or ex-players are matters for csgo scene.
2020-04-07 13:55
You misunderstood me here I guess. I'm not talking about good results. Results is ANGE1's weakest side. We are talking about strong person with big influence on his teammates / staff. And ANGE1 is that kind of person.
2020-04-07 13:56
The influence shows that some players grow under him. Adren learned a lot under Zeus. S1mple and Flamie changed also a lot cuz of Zeus. I guess we both think different about this word. I mean that he helps that a player grows, get better or change his attitude to some gaming things.
2020-04-07 14:00
You probably meant some kind of chance for improvement for players under ANGE1's leadership, right? :) Well... Yes, I bet he is not that useful from this side (right now). I partly agree with you. But we can only judge subjectively and by already shown results. I don't think it is good criteria to judge such things. There is something like "hidden potential" which we both cannot see (most of the times). This happened to Zeus. People thought he is washed-up after that Na`Vi kick, but he proved many people to be wrong and he did Godlike results, he won a Major, he took top2 of another Major with Na`Vi when he came back etc. So we are back to my previous point: "we cannot know right now". :) P.S. S1mple and flamie improved a lot by B1ad3 too btw. He had big influence on their improvement before they were invited by Na`Vi.
2020-04-07 14:14
Look at issa and woxic... they were no one before HR and now one of them is in a top 5 team and the other is in a top 15 team, both playing better than ever. Not to take credit away from them, but you have to admit ange1 did a great job with these 2 young guys. I hope he can at least do the same again
2020-04-07 14:13
+1 good point
2020-04-07 14:15
I dunno what Ange1 gave them. But both are 16? 17? they have the talent and get the chance to shine. You ca assume that Ange1 did a good job or you can assume they just started their career. There need at least 2-3 years in pro scene to get a long term change for imporvement. My example with Flamie and S1mple means that this a re two pro players with 3-4 years expiernce before they played with Zeus in such a long time. Your examples are like the sergej and brollans. They have talent but you still not know where they will end.
2020-04-07 15:06
It’s very logical to assume that if 2 young upcoming players with 0 experience joined a team with ange1 at the same time and later both ended up in top tier teams, where they are playing very well right now, that he must have done at least some good
2020-04-07 15:33
+1
2020-04-14 18:12
#149
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Russia xtkjdtr001 
+1
2020-04-07 17:21
+1, one of the most overrated IGL the scene has ever seen
2020-04-07 14:16
angebot
2020-04-07 13:34
Angebot? Are you German?
2020-04-07 13:48
+1
2020-04-07 14:27
retire and be a coach of Natus V1ncere
2020-04-07 13:37
No. Have a good day!
2020-04-07 13:40
thx
2020-04-07 14:06
Your welcome!
2020-04-07 14:07
0 fucking 8, blad3>>>>this clueless bot
2020-04-07 14:26
it’s already take few years to prove that he’s a bad igl and fragger
2020-04-07 13:37
i've been calling this for years, but idiots kept calling him to navi, fucking the most overrated igl the scene has ever seen
2020-04-07 14:25
dude, he's better than 3/5 of navi
2020-04-07 14:33
#32
Frankie | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
-olof +ANGE1
2020-04-07 13:45
Sounds reasonable🤔
2020-04-07 14:14
sure, bring more washed up players to faze
2020-04-07 14:24
+1
2020-04-07 14:33
#182
XigN | 
Indonesia RaMzz412 
+1 Yes.. why not ? Let Niko become star again and let IGL role to this guy.
2020-04-08 03:10
Best CIS player, ez NA cash or faze or smth for him now.
2020-04-07 13:47
+1
2020-04-07 13:55
best cis player? are you drunk or smth? This bot havent been playing good for like 4 years or smth
2020-04-07 14:22
lol did Ange1 fuck your girlfriend? Is that it?
2020-04-07 14:35
#150
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Russia xtkjdtr001 
+1
2020-04-07 17:22
#37
NAF | 
China $news1mple 
good luck!
2020-04-07 13:49
gl
2020-04-07 13:51
#41
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Denmark Zorrondo 
who?
2020-04-07 13:54
0/8
2020-04-07 13:55
indeed who ?
2020-04-07 14:07
Still 0/8 :o
2020-04-07 14:08
one of the best IGL in the world
2020-04-07 14:36
#118
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Denmark Zorrondo 
didn't hear about him cool
2020-04-07 15:32
Gl
2020-04-07 13:55
#47
gla1ve | 
Ukraine StaR1y 
It's time for you to retire, you're already old for this shit.
2020-04-07 13:58
+1
2020-04-07 14:22
#50
aizy | 
Denmark Gryde 
(laughs)
2020-04-07 14:02
#51
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Russia Tarasov 
yeah just create another tier8 cis roster gl with this
2020-04-07 14:03
+1 xDDDD
2020-04-07 14:27
No please just retire already
2020-04-07 14:04
+1, he better be a coach if he doesn't want to be completely forgotten, at least his relevance as coach might be saved
2020-04-07 14:28
+1
2020-04-07 14:29
#54
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Poland friendlySeb 
Very good player, both as a leader and as a fragger. For me he would fit very well in Virtus.Pro.
2020-04-07 14:05
+1
2020-04-07 14:08
Very good player and leader hadn't fucking had a single top 4 placemnets in his entire life. Overrated both player and IGL, should've retired ages ago.
2020-04-07 14:23
#96
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Poland friendlySeb 
He is a great leader. He just didn't have enough good teammates to build a world contender team.
2020-04-07 14:58
flamie,s1mple,oskar,styko,issaa,woxic,adren mou dosia, markeloff edward and i might even forgot some Still not enough to be consistent top 10 team?
2020-04-07 15:37
#126
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Poland friendlySeb 
Consistent? No, it's still not enough. They were TOP 10 team at some point. flamie is not a player that will carry your team to the TOP 10. s1mple at the time he was playing in HR he was a toxic kid who broke their whole system apart. oskar was nothing special. STYKO very good, but not a type of start player. ISSAA and woxic were very good, and with that players he mad a stabil TOP 10 team, which even went to a Major playoffs. AdreN nothing special. Same with mou, Dosia, markeloff and Edward.
2020-04-07 15:46
adren mou dosia nothing special? Oh, then it makes ange1 look even worse.Zeus managed to win tier 1.5 tournaments with "nothing special" players and then won a fucking major with "nothing special" players
2020-04-07 15:50
#137
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Poland friendlySeb 
Don't compare Zeus to ANGE1. ANGE1 is great now, but in 2017 it was obvious that Zeus is 10x better as a leader.
2020-04-07 15:59
ANGE1 is great now? HHAHAHAHAHAH WTF ARE YOU ON? HOW the fuck is he great now? literally plays with 0.9 rating for like 3-4 years. Overrated IGL and player
2020-04-07 16:01
#142
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Poland friendlySeb 
0.97. But his team lost 80% of their games, so 0.97 for a leader is very good at this point.
2020-04-07 16:15
> "AdreN nothing special. Same with mou, Dosia, markeloff and Edward." Your biggest mistake is here. :) These players were amazing at that period of time. You're judging them from current time, it is wrong way of thinking here, imo. Especially Markeloff and Edward, I mean, these guys were legendary since 1.6 and they were playing great at the time when ANGE1 lured them from Na`Vi. But ANGE1 failed with this CIS super-team (Astana Dragons: ANGE1, markeloff, Edward, Dosia, AdreN).
2020-04-07 15:50
#141
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Poland friendlySeb 
Ok, maybe i underrated them. Dosia was nuts when he played for HR. mou was very good. AdreN same as mou. markeloff was weak already. Edward never played for HR. The thing is, that those players didn't found chemistry with themselves. ANGE1 proved his leadership a lot of times, he is a good leader, you have my word.
2020-04-07 16:15
totally agree
2020-04-07 14:39
STFU
2020-04-07 14:12
Yeah remember when whole hltv wanted him to join NaVi ? lol
2020-04-07 14:22
retards, this overrated "captain" would kill navi completely
2020-04-07 14:24
Yep, another 4v5 for NaVi every game. And angel going 4-23 every game
2020-04-07 14:34
At that time ange1 had 1.15 LAN rating. Don't talk when you have no idea. Noone wanted ange1 in NaVi in the last 2 years.
2020-04-07 15:06
Well you have been absent on this forum then bc all I remember daily threads about angel saving NaVi if he ever joins them.
2020-04-07 16:03
Angel going to Faze, confirmed by me
2020-04-07 14:27
Worst fucking igl ever
2020-04-07 14:33
just stop, dont waste ur time
2020-04-07 14:34
#92
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Brazil parrud0www 
Teach some academy team, is better than compete
2020-04-07 14:48
he would be a very good coach I feel like
2020-04-07 15:02
#180
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Brazil parrud0www 
yeah
2020-04-08 01:15
retire please
2020-04-07 14:57
#97
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Hungary faltopfake 
"too early" After 6 years of struggling. I hope u're right and find better players to play with.
2020-04-07 14:58
#107
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Brazil Karlogaria 
Time to retire. Acting like that washed up grandpa Fox. Get your paychecks from something else, bot
2020-04-07 15:11
#108
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India lemuig 
Bruh he is going VALORANT too
2020-04-07 15:15
#111
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United States Massacrejr 
Here a challenge, get out of tier 5...
2020-04-07 15:19
most overrated igl ever
2020-04-07 15:21
#114
valde | 
Sweden meistr0 
0/8
2020-04-07 15:24
thats a fact dude played with almost every cis star and won what? nothing played with eu rising stars and won what? nothing also his fragging ability is pretty overrated, even zeus got better stats overall than bot ange1
2020-04-07 15:25
#117
valde | 
Sweden meistr0 
Once again: 0/8. Win = Tier 1? Is that your logic? Ange1 is just like OCEAN in North America, he helps youngsters grow and play. We can basically thank OCEAN for Stewie2k, Twistzz and EliGE We can basically thank Ange1 for ISSAA, Woxic, s1mple and flamie.
2020-04-07 15:31
no, thats b1ad3 who helps and teachs young players how to play ange1 was the guy who said s1mple will shit when he moved to liquid, and just like s1mple rest players also who left bot ange1 became only better and finally won some tournaments s1mple is top1 bcuz he is hard working player not bcuz bot ange1 lol, he learned more from b1ad3 as he told before and never mentioned ange1.
2020-04-07 15:35
#121
valde | 
Sweden meistr0 
"who said s1mple will shit" England is my city. And you still dont understand anything. Read this again: "he helps youngsters grow and play."
2020-04-07 15:34
said by no one except you, lol? show me a single article where s1mple mentioned ange1 as someone who teached him something. He always talks about b1ad3,liquid guys and even zeus but never ange1. dude played with half of eu/cis scene and won like 3 tier3 shit tournaments in whole career but u still think he is not overrated as player?
2020-04-07 15:43
#125
valde | 
Sweden meistr0 
"said by no one except you, lol?" People have said this? Because its true. "show me a single article where s1mple mentioned ange1 as someone who teached him something" Ffs, you still dont understand do you? READ THIS: "he helps youngsters grow and play."
2020-04-07 15:45
thats not something special u know? teammates in every team help each other to grow and play lmao. just bcuz ange1 played with half of cs scene doesn't means he is like ocean,pronax,hunden thats b1ad3 who picks no-namers from shit tiers teams and teachs them basics of cs just HR is next step for those players who are ready to play on a higher level but shit ange1 can't lead them to win, thats all. flamie,woxic,issa are players who maybe can be thankful to ange1, but don't forget the list of players who played with him. issaa,lowel,oskar,deadfox,woxic,bondik,fejtz,zero,styko,queztone,schneider,adren,s1mple,mou,dosia,flamie,markelof,adren,nukkye,hs,guardian on paper hr always had good teams but what about results? shit but yeah u can still deny the fact that ange1 is overrated as igl
2020-04-07 15:55
#144
valde | 
Sweden meistr0 
JE-SUS You still dont understand. Sad. Please read my comments again, then respond back if you understand. Have a good afternoon.
2020-04-07 16:30
#113
tabseN | 
Turkey orox2 
He was a decent fragging IGL back in old HR on their peak (with wox and ISSA). He would've joined NaVi when Zeus is left, would be much better than Guardian replacement or imperfecto. idk how is his form now
2020-04-07 15:21
He can try some shit with JR and other Vega leftovers, but I doubt it will be good enough, gl though
2020-04-07 15:51
#166
tabseN | 
Turkey orox2 
ded players. I would rather play with young teams such like Gambit Youngsters instead of washed out Major flukes
2020-04-07 20:16
#120
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Russia AR4ER 
Na zavod !
2020-04-07 15:34
+1, decoyzed already recommended him in his department on Zavod 👍
2020-04-07 15:50
10 kills challenge on one map lmao
2020-04-07 15:42
Unfortunately, it IS too late, Karas’ ;( Judging by HR results :(
2020-04-07 15:49
Karas aka surstromming
2020-04-07 15:54
#133
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Russia Praeter 
mate, you've already lost your chance to level up, you had to go either to Navi or to Gambit in 2017
2020-04-07 15:55
its most deff not too early to write u off
2020-04-07 15:56
believe the organization is tired of him as well, only one trophy around him
2020-04-07 16:12
who ?
2020-04-07 16:19
#145
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Europe jok9rz 
"Securing Legends status with ISSAA and woxic was also memorable, but working with those two shaved off a few years of my life (laughs)." you mean cocaine and alcohol?
2020-04-07 16:40
bro youre almost 40 chill
2020-04-07 17:03
#148
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Romania SkipG 
Too early . Man you are a few years too late.
2020-04-07 17:19
#152
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Denmark MetatronKbh 
30 years,,,omg Too early ,,,he just want money,.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
2020-04-07 17:26
#153
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Ukraine beazztov 
VP: Jame Qikert buster ANGE1 somedieyoung or pro100: ANGE1 YEKINDER dimasick DavCost COLDYY1
2020-04-07 17:29
ok
2020-04-07 17:31
#158
Zeus | 
Ukraine Najara 
just retire bot
2020-04-07 18:31
#161
Dev1 | 
Slovakia Trav1s 
legend
2020-04-07 18:47
#195
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Denmark MetatronKbh 
HAHAHAAHAH he only play for money,,he come from low life,,,no job,,,nothing where he come from,,,HE IS NOT A legend...no win no win hahahhaa what have he won,,,,,,,,,? nothing
2020-04-13 19:33
He can still play on tier 2-3 teams like pro100 etc he cant be worse than kRSYTAL
2020-04-07 19:08
#165
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Japan pawbeast 
And maikelele
2020-04-07 19:56
#167
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Europe funk1rider 
kick flamie add ange1
2020-04-07 20:31
#171
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Finland subhumen 
Imo Ange1 is pretty good at developing players / star players For Example s1mple, styko, issa and woxic all good players only because ange1 knew how to develop them as players.
2020-04-07 21:18
#172
Dosia | 
World zeree 
GodAnge1
2020-04-07 21:39
-boomich -flamie +ange1 +sdy .... Atleast some seriousness in Navi Camp!!!!
2020-04-07 21:39
#178
cyx | 
Germany KapioO 
Ange1 go in works nub
2020-04-08 00:53
#179
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CIS chlenixon 
could be a decent rifler for many teams
2020-04-08 00:57
#183
XigN | 
Indonesia RaMzz412 
Need to increase his fragging and igl 1st then he can join team that lack of igling like VP, Faze or even rebuilt gambit csgo again
2020-04-08 03:23
Tier 3 has been a good place to start and you've failed miserably.... So... Good talk.
2020-04-08 05:10
#186
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Indonesia Exodd 
You could try Valorant when it's out bro
2020-04-08 12:11
washed up
2020-04-08 21:50
#189
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India lemuig 
Washed up wasted go play VALORANT
2020-04-09 05:04
get a job, man you are 30 yo
2020-04-09 17:14
+1
2020-04-12 18:01
most washed up player in the world
2020-04-15 17:36
#198
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Laos OGFirstFan 
new challenge ? what about winning a major ?
2020-04-18 21:49
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