A year later, Windigo still wait for their WESG prize

The Bulgarian team won $500,000 after topping the international tournament but have yet to see a dime; WESG claims bank regulations and coronavirus outbreak have delayed the payment process.

March 17, 2019 was the day that changed Bulgarian esports forever. Windigo, then ranked just 30th in the world, capped off a dream run at the WESG 2018 Finals with a 2-1 victory over Polish side AGO in the tournament final after previously upsetting MIBR (then world No.5) and G2 (No.17). It was a day that will forever be etched into the memories of those players, who won $500,000 — the third-largest prize in Counter-Strike history.

It was also the day when things began to fall apart.

Just seven months later, Windigo ceased all operations, citing cash-flow issues after not having received prize money from several tournaments, WESG included. It was a surprising announcement, though not because the team had been doing well: in the months that had followed that incredible run in Chongqing, Windigo had been unable to cement their status as a top 20 side, a victory at Moche XL Esports being the only positive as the team desperately attempted to challenge for a spot at the big boys’ table. As Windigo closed their doors, the team were 40th in the world rankings, 27 places down from their peak position, and had just three-fifths of the WESG-winning roster, with four different players having been tested as part of the organisation’s international experiment.

Windigo won the WESG Finals after beating teams like MIBR, G2 and AGO

The $125,000 that the organisation is owed (25 per cent of the total prize) would have been enough to keep it afloat — or so claims Artur Yermolayev, one of the Windigo's founders and owners, who explains that, after winning the WESG event, the team demanded better conditions. With practically no sponsors to help ease the burden — their website, which has now been taken down, only shows one partner, a betting company — Windigo’s finances quickly deteriorated. "The players got a big confidence boost after the tournament, they understood that they were performing at a different level," Mr. Yermolayev tells HLTV.org. "In order to keep the squad, we had to increase their salaries. We were lacking cash flow, and the main reason for that was the [WESG] prize; it was the largest prize our organization had ever won. This would have been the cash flow that would have allowed us to stay in the game."

In the announcement of Windigo’s closure on Reddit, Maksym Bednarskyi, the other co-owner, had told the same tale: that the unpaid prize money had forced the organisation’s hand. However, he had also pointed the finger at two other tournament organisers, E2Tech, which ran Moche XL Esports, and ESL.

E2Tech was quick to reject Windigo's accusation and explained that the payment had been returned by the bank due to "unknown reasons". Similarly, a representative from Alibaba, the Chinese company that is behind WESG, told The Esports Observer that its payment had been "sent back multiple times". Both tournament organisers had run into the same problem: the bureaucratic nightmare caused by the fact that Windigo’s company registration, tax filing information and receiving bank were from different countries.

"These problems are pretty normal for the CIS region when the legal address of the organization is located in a different country, usually Hong Kong or Cyprus. In our case, it was Hong Kong," Mr. Yermolayev explains. "The management was working out of Ukraine, the players were based in Bulgaria and bootcamped in Ukraine, and the funds were supposed to be sent from China."

To overcome this hurdle, Windigo created a new bank account, one that they assure has no issues with overseas remittances. By then, the organisation had already closed their doors, so all expenses came out of the old management's pockets. But new obstacles continued to emerge. First, it was the daily protests of hundreds of thousands of people in Hong Kong, who demonstrated against the country's extradition bill. Mr. Yermolayev says that this delayed the prize money payment, though he claims WESG never really explained why. And then the novel coronavirus emerged in the city of Wuhan, bringing every sector of the Chinese economy to a halt. On January 22, WESG became the first tournament organiser to revise its strategy as a result of the ongoing health crisis as it postponed the Asia-Pacific Finals, scheduled for February 16-18 in Macau. The World Finals, which were due to be held in the first quarter of the year in China, have been postponed indefinitely, and there are doubts as to whether the event will ever take place as WESG remains tight-lipped about the future of the competition.

Communication with WESG wasn’t always easy or timely in the final months of 2019, but things got even worse after China entered a coronavirus lockdown. Windigo claim that they were promised that the wire transfer would go ahead after February 24 as banks in China were closed and staff members remained at home as part of the country’s social distancing measures. But since that deadline expired, WESG has remained evasive when asked about updates. Viane, an Alibaba employee who has been the primary contact with Windigo from the start, revealed in her latest email that she remains on sick leave with limited email access until May 15.

"We know that banks in China are open again and we understand that the company is functioning, even if some people are working remotely," Mr. Yermolayev says. He questions WESG’s continuous requests for information and documents, including team contracts and a player payment guarantee letter, even after other organisations had long received their prize money share, and insists that Windigo have never seen proof of a payment attempt from the Chinese tournament organiser. "It's a standard business practice to send a confirmation of payment. This way, even if there is some sort of a delay, we can approach our bank and explain to them the situation, and they can try to resolve the issue."

Tired of waiting, Windigo are considering taking action against WESG. "Unfortunately, yes," Mr. Yermolayev says when asked if a lawsuit is on the table. "We have an official contract, we have an official legal entity that WESG has obligations to. If we do not receive the money in the near future, we will be forced to seek legal assistance and go to court."

Mr. Yermolayev notes that all other tournament winnings have been paid and assures that the players, while "desperate" to receive their share of the WESG prize, continue to trust Windigo's handling of the situation. "Since the organisation has kept its words in terms of all financial obligations, we are still in touch all the time," he says. "There is no tension between me and the players because I am being as open as I can."

poizon, Windigo's star player, was transferred to Complexity

The players who lifted the trophy in Chongqing have experienced contrasting fortunes since the team came to an end; as such, they have been affected by this ordeal differently. Valentin "⁠poizon⁠" Vasilev and Georgi "⁠SHiPZ⁠" Grigorov have gone on to enjoy international success with Complexity and c0ntact, respectively, while Kamen "⁠bubble⁠" Kostadinov (SMASH) and Yanko "⁠blocker⁠" Panov (BLUEJAYS) are still trying to return to a top level. Viktor "⁠v1c7oR⁠" Dyankov seems to have pulled the short straw: he has been unable to find a stable team since Windigo and is currently living off savings.

"Of course it makes me feel frustrated because I still haven’t got what I won. But that’s the esports life," v1c7oR tells HLTV.org. "Meanwhile, everyone else has a team and a salary. It’s great that they all found a team. I still want to play in a team, the salary doesn’t matter. I play the game for prestige and name, not money.

"It doesn’t affect my life that much. I am mostly frustrated that everyone else has received their prize money from WESG and we haven’t. That makes me really wonder if they are ever going to pay it."

HLTV.org reached out to Viane with a set of questions regarding the prizes from the 2018 event, the current status of the 2019 Finals and whether the company is worried that the delayed payment might tarnish the image of the competition. Most of the questions were ignored in the following statement provided by the Alibaba employee:

"We have been in constant communication with Windigo to resolve the payment issues. Past issues were addressed in an announcement via Reddit on November 1, 2019, so I'll focus this email on giving an update on the process since that time.

"During the month of November, we tried to make the bank transfer but the payments did not pass the bank's compliance requirements. We received a request from Windigo to change the beneficiary bank account on December 4, 2019, which required additional paperwork to update bank details in agreements and invoices. WESG received all the updated information from Windigo on January 4, 2020. We followed up the payment immediately to re-submit all administrative work including tax declaration and bank documents. Before January was over, the combination of Chinese New Year and the coronavirus shut down did not allow for enough time to process the payments again.

"After we started returning to work, as team Windigo dissolved, the contract between the organization and the players has expired and became legally invalid. In order to safeguard the right of the players, we requested the organization's owner to provide a Letter of Commitment to ensure the players will be paid their prize money and we made this request on March 9, 2020. We received this Letter of Commitment in the mail on April 8, 2020.

"As the pandemic wears on, banks and corporations in China are not back to full operations yet in a mandated effort to reduce human contact and to avoid a second wave of infections. This has resulted in longer wait times to process payments but we are working on a daily basis to follow up with the banks."

Success in Counter-Strike can be fleeting, as Windigo came to learn. The victory at the WESG Finals is a distant memory by now, but the players and the old management are still clinging on to hope that the payment has indeed been delayed by a chain of misunderstandings and some unfortunate events, and that it now solely depends on some bureaucratic details. In a way, Windigo's biggest achievement was also the start of an inescapable downward spiral, creating unrealistic expectations that the team couldn’t live up to and bringing financial strain to the organisation. The WESG title ensured Windigo a name in the history books, but with nothing to show for it, Mr. Yermolayev can't help but struggle with mixed feelings.

"Emotionally, it was definitely positive," he says. "We were very happy, we saw the results that we had been looking to achieve, and the team's hard work paid off.

"Financially, it was obviously negative. The market value and the operation costs of the team increased, yet we have made zero dollars from the tournament. It was both positive and negative."

Bulgaria Yanko 'blocker' Panov
Yanko 'blocker' Panov
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
847
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.71
APR:
0.15
Bulgaria Kamen 'bubble' Kostadinov
Kamen 'bubble' Kostadinov
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
1683
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.15
Bulgaria Georgi 'SHiPZ' Grigorov
Georgi 'SHiPZ' Grigorov
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1033
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.12
Bulgaria Viktor 'v1c7oR' Dyankov
Viktor 'v1c7oR' Dyankov
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
1541
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.16
Bulgaria Valentin 'poizon' Vasilev
Valentin 'poizon' Vasilev
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.13
Maps played:
889
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.63
APR:
0.12
What
2020-04-16 12:00
#12
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Canada U_S_of_Gay
Expected from chinese scammers
2020-04-16 12:02
#31
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Sri Lanka kvezee
WESG = SCAM
2020-04-16 12:04
Bulgarian government lul
2020-04-16 12:14
this is so sad
2020-04-16 12:44
OMEGALUL news
2020-04-16 13:30
Flukedigo
2020-04-16 14:31
nmslese scammer
2020-04-16 14:46
chi-na
2020-04-17 22:41
Did you mean "expected from bat lovers?"
2020-04-16 14:38
#275
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Spain N0Love
And don't forget pangolin rapists
2020-04-16 15:52
xD
2020-04-16 20:34
I heard other teams like nip fnatic got paid from wesg as soon as after WESG, and other teams as well. But wesg tried to transfer money to windingo, but the transaction was rejected due to the suspicion of money laundering.
2020-04-16 15:30
Lmao is it true ?
2020-04-16 16:39
I don't remember when the post is posted, but Windingo player (Maybe SHiPZ?) tweeted we are not getting paid from wesg a long time before, then JW and GTR replied they were getting paid. And I saw another guy tweeted wesg cannot transfer money due to reject by bank, suspicion of money laundering. He said Windingo is located on Ukraine as the organization, but players are from Bulgaria, and the bank of account is located on another place. So, the bank suspect money laundering. I am not sure about it, but probably you can find these tweets on google or reddit or twitter.
2020-04-16 16:46
#397
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Germany _PH1L
The passages the manager gives allraedy confirm this base and the accusation of money laundering is quite true and if not then it looks like tax evasion at least
2020-04-17 00:25
that`s esactly what was in a thread
2020-04-17 11:03
#429
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Australia csRIOTgo
Are you guys even reading the article? Quoted verbatim: "It doesn’t affect my life that much. I am mostly frustrated that everyone else has received their prize money from WESG and we haven’t. That makes me really wonder if they are ever going to pay it."
2020-04-17 12:07
That's just bad management and ignoring the lower tier teams.
2020-04-17 15:11
Might actually have more to do with bulgaria than w china then. WESG has been good at paying everyone in the past, it's weird that they can't pay just this one team.
2020-04-16 18:24
#335
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Hungary Shaperz
is this happens because they are from BULGARIA?
2020-04-16 18:43
Kekw
2020-04-17 13:26
#369
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Argentina fedezera
Who told you so? They have always had problems in terms of payments
2020-04-16 20:52
#342
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Indonesia rareguy
Huh, only for Bulgaria then? Fnatic is a UK org with Swedish roster but has no problem receicing money whatsoever.
2020-04-16 19:12
Fnatic receives money from tournaments frequently, so one single transaction from wesg is really normal. But for a team that seldom receive price, a sudden $50k sounds the alarm for the bank.
2020-04-17 02:34
Moreover, WESG has other competition items, such as DOTA 2 and SC2, all the other teams all receive their money
2020-04-17 11:02
#168
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Spain GayGuy2
Expected from tier 5 organizer
2020-04-16 13:32
C-H-I-N-A
2020-04-16 15:16
chinese scammers lul
2020-04-16 22:54
#2
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Ukraine NAVl
losedigo
2020-04-16 12:00
lmao
2020-04-16 12:46
lostdigo*
2020-04-16 13:51
#3
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Russia Evil_DaviD1
WTF?! China at it again OMEGALUL.
2020-04-16 12:05
China is the worst country, It looks like cancer to the world
2020-04-16 14:06
and they literally released a virus to the world
2020-04-16 15:18
I have no words to describe how stupid you are
2020-04-16 15:43
I have no words to describe how stupid you are
2020-04-16 19:43
#370
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World Beard43
+1
2020-04-16 20:53
I do have words to describe how stupid you are, but I might get banned
2020-04-16 23:16
+1
2020-04-16 23:15
No respect to China?! Bcuz of China there is a lot of trading, many countries only survive cuz of china doing that. They have polite people and a few good cs players. They have an interesting language and culture of more then 5000 years and you disrespectfull little noname piece of shit want to hate them? Get a life racist
2020-04-17 18:02
caught a fakeflagger, so chiggered i.redd.it/a73041jndvi21.jpg btw, stating a fact doesn't equal to disrespect or racist
2020-04-18 10:56
Im german.
2020-04-18 14:23
#484
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India EnfyB
XD OMG ! Dude stop licking China's Butt. Many Countries have What China has aight? and regarding survival if all foreign companies shift out their factories from China as of now China won't be able do shit
2020-04-22 08:39
I love china, /closed
2020-04-22 08:41
lmao, British government lol.
2020-04-16 19:26
#412
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United Kingdom Fizzhaz
shit but still better than us gov lol
2020-04-17 04:13
Your cancer, disrespectfull shit noscener
2020-04-17 18:02
China at it again
2020-04-16 12:01
KEKW
2020-04-16 12:01
WTF?! idk cant they sue them or something?
2020-04-16 12:01
Practically impossible to sue a Chinese company without having a Chinese presence yourself.
2020-04-16 12:18
Chinese companies are basically immune to a foreign company's legal action. That's why you see so many Chinese rip-offs of Western products.
2020-04-16 13:08
China doesn't care about international laws, otherwise we couldn't have all these fake iphones and adidas and nike and whatever
2020-04-16 14:03
I, too, have an opinion on China.
2020-04-23 22:04
#7
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Czech Republic Olaxen
LOL?!
2020-04-16 12:01
Bruh
2020-04-16 12:01
Bruh
2020-04-16 13:01
Bruh
2020-04-16 13:36
Bruh
2020-04-16 13:57
Bruh
2020-04-16 14:14
Bruh
2020-04-16 19:19
Bruh
2020-04-16 19:43
#364
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Bulgaria goshyy
Bruh
2020-04-16 20:48
Bruh
2020-04-16 21:34
Bruh
2020-04-16 22:45
Bruh
2020-04-17 01:46
Bruh
2020-04-17 02:50
#420
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Russia nizh
Bruh
2020-04-17 08:59
Bruh
2020-04-17 12:27
#441
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Finland mattixboi
Bruh
2020-04-17 15:42
Bruh
2020-04-17 22:35
Bruh
2020-04-18 02:14
RE: Ban inquiry Hello, you are currently banned for participating in a pointless comments tree inside a news piece. This kind of behaviour is not welcome, especially not in special sections of the site like news or match threads. Regards SpainJonathan E.
2020-04-18 21:06
Bruh
2020-04-19 11:55
#482
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Australia Woodzz
Bruh
2020-04-21 13:05
Bruh
2020-04-22 20:48
Bruh
2020-04-24 10:53
Bruh
2020-04-24 18:17
#11
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Netherlands Xno
LUL
2020-04-16 12:02
whaat
2020-04-16 12:02
xaxaxaxaxa
2020-04-16 12:02
ahahahah title
2020-04-16 12:02
What?!?!
2020-04-16 12:02
#17
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Spain 1996
is this happens because we are from bulgaria?
2020-04-16 12:02
#213
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Guatemala Nicaraqua
ARE YOU MAD??? CUZ IM NOT
2020-04-16 14:16
ok newfag
2020-04-16 16:06
Yikes newfag spotted
2020-04-16 20:33
K , Newfag
2020-04-17 02:17
Newwwfaaaaag
2020-04-17 10:08
literal sheep above
2020-04-23 22:05
is this are happen because we are from bulgaria?
2020-04-16 12:03
mens)
2020-04-16 12:21
mens)))
2020-04-16 13:25
No. Chi-Na
2020-04-16 13:01
Thats CRAZY dude. Basically being robbed of 500.000$. And nah WESG, dont blame it on something like that, i mean, they won it back in March 2019.
2020-04-16 12:03
they are only ones not getting paid, weird huh...
2020-04-16 12:04
Well, then it wouldnt be that "hard" i suppose for WESG to show proof that they sent the payments etc to every single team right?
2020-04-16 12:05
is this happens because we are from BULGARIA??
2020-04-17 07:12
125 men 500 was total prize pool
2020-04-16 12:53
it's 500k for 1st
2020-04-16 13:08
Ah so its kinda misleading. Title says 500k but later it says they are missing 125k 🙄🙄
2020-04-16 13:55
#214
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Austria fist_us
just read the article again kiddo
2020-04-16 14:17
No
2020-04-16 23:12
#330
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Tunisia KJou
25% of the 500K will go to the org.. which is 125K
2020-04-16 18:28
Ok
2020-04-17 14:21
#23
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Germany jnsCsgo
Fucking China.
2020-04-16 12:03
they are only ones not getting paid, weird huh...
2020-04-16 12:03
not really no, windigo isn't a big deal like faze, navi , g2 etc
2020-04-16 13:09
WESG is shit.
2020-04-16 12:04
ROFL
2020-04-16 12:04
lmao
2020-04-16 12:07
#36
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Canada GGNORE33
Windigo scammers they took all the money ofc!
2020-04-16 12:08
#74
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Bulgaria cuddleslut
-1
2020-04-16 12:26
2020 crazy year: WW3 Covid 19 Bushfires Windigo players getting scammed by Chinese. Dang, stay safe.
2020-04-16 12:09
gugu's death :(
2020-04-16 13:58
Who dafuq is a gugu?
2020-04-16 14:40
google it m8, i have no words to describe him..
2020-04-16 15:04
wtf he died in 2019?
2020-04-23 22:06
2020, domestic accident
2020-04-23 23:58
2020-04-24 00:00
Nop, this is gugu
2020-04-24 00:02
Chinese scammers
2020-04-16 12:09
#40
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United States flex_
DEEP FOR VICTOR THOO
2020-04-16 12:10
+1 what a legend
2020-04-16 14:27
SCAMG
2020-04-16 12:10
China is ruining CS market
2020-04-16 12:10
<3 China
2020-04-16 12:11
is this are happen because we are from bulgaria?
2020-04-16 12:12
xaxaxa china n1
2020-04-16 12:13
#47
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Netherlands Jonasio
Shit TO anyway, fucking scammers
2020-04-16 12:13
#48
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Brazil ferNaN1
mibr lul
2020-04-16 12:13
#49
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United States hoobit
is this are happen because we are from bulgaria?
2020-04-16 12:13
#50
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Sweden Trkmag
Nice read
2020-04-16 12:13
Soon 5 years ago Team Kinguin won Gaming Paradise, Haven't got their prize either. Much smaller price, but it was 2015.
2020-04-16 12:14
Gaming paradise was the worst event in all esports history
2020-04-16 21:33
#423
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Denmark Notallama
That tournament had much bigger issues than the handling of prize money.
2020-04-17 10:39
scammers scammed
2020-04-16 12:15
LMFAO
2020-04-16 12:15
is this joke
2020-04-16 12:15
no, this are happen because we are from bulgaria
2020-04-16 12:17
I always said, China is soo toxic
2020-04-16 12:17
#59
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Portugal xeroh1
Damn this one hurts!
2020-04-16 12:18
#61
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Slovakia SLAVak
Shouldn't this be a problem of the Players association? Or wtf do they even do... Can't help with jumpii's condition, can't help with scams, can't do fuck all.
2020-04-16 12:18
#81
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Mongolia Kkura
They are useless
2020-04-16 12:28
You think player association has* any influence on volvo? Pogey
2020-04-16 12:43
#127
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Slovakia SLAVak
Well what's the point of it then?
2020-04-16 12:54
its supposed to be for every pro player, but reality is that only tier1 players can actually use it and vote for thing in it. Davey lately said that there were multiple votings but he never got a chance to actually vote
2020-04-16 13:06
#173
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Slovakia SLAVak
Lmao that sounds ballanced as fuck.
2020-04-16 13:36
They sure can told anything they want or dont want to be fixed to volvo, but it doesnt mean that volvo gonna listen to em. That's the meaning of the word "influence".
2020-04-16 14:30
who's jumpii? sounds like someone who would bounce around while cheatinng on mm or something.
2020-04-16 13:25
#171
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Slovakia SLAVak
was talkin bout jampii, I just woke up and didn't think straight.
2020-04-16 13:35
#272
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Sweden OG_FANGAY
And who is jampii? No such player
2020-04-16 15:50
#317
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Slovakia SLAVak
are you gonna bully me cause of the upper case J in his name?
2020-04-16 17:45
#325
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Sweden OG_FANGAY
there is no Jampii or jampii. there is a player called Jamppi tho
2020-04-16 18:16
#349
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Slovakia SLAVak
I'm just downright stupid, ye my bad.
2020-04-16 19:27
you are not stupid and he is an asshole
2020-04-16 20:32
#373
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Sweden OG_FANGAY
why?
2020-04-16 21:03
#375
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Mongolia OMgL
Cause you knew who he was talking about, but still wanted him to say it
2020-04-16 21:17
#379
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Sweden OG_FANGAY
what you even is meaning lol he said jampii its jamppi not jampuu jampii
2020-04-16 21:38
#380
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Slovakia SLAVak
So if I'd say Forest instead of f0rest you'd be like who is that, there's noone called forest?
2020-04-16 21:56
#381
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Sweden OG_FANGAY
not even comparable
2020-04-16 21:57
Haha lol
2020-04-17 14:22
Chinese company screwing people over, what a surprise.
2020-04-16 12:20
ok
2020-04-17 14:22
ok
2020-04-17 14:22
ok
2020-04-17 14:22
Liquid stole it
2020-04-16 12:21
#68
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Germany DEBlL
ez for ago, they knew wesg wont pay for 1st place so they decided to be 2nd
2020-04-16 12:22
that was smart by polaks
2020-04-16 13:18
#457
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Europe Vallon3
140 IQ
2020-04-17 19:50
expected from china
2020-04-16 12:22
+1
2020-04-16 13:20
#paytoVindigo
2020-04-16 12:22
shaaaaaaaame what a joke
2020-04-16 12:24
Wesg bat eating scammers
2020-04-16 12:53
China is virus
2020-04-16 12:26
#245
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Europe AlL1n
I wish turks had region ban for Cs.
2020-04-16 15:06
i think same for ruskis
2020-04-16 15:31
I think same for turkish cs
2020-04-16 15:55
#289
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Europe AlL1n
No ruski no kebab that's just way to perfect world.
2020-04-16 16:36
#76
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France J0riS
What a fucking shame
2020-04-16 12:26
Wow.. That's like 20% of Bulgarian economy
2020-04-16 12:26
#125
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Czech Republic nenz
xdddd lmao
2020-04-16 12:53
ok
2020-04-16 15:55
No, you nerd!
2020-04-16 16:59
#459
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Europe Vallon3
Mad bulgarian cause true lul
2020-04-17 19:53
jajajajajjajajaja
2020-04-17 17:25
#458
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Europe Vallon3
LMAO true
2020-04-17 19:50
ye takes a fucking year to pay winnings fucking scam of a tournament
2020-04-16 12:27
Windiwho
2020-04-16 12:28
old
2020-04-16 15:54
China just needs flattening
2020-04-16 12:28
china OMEGALUL
2020-04-16 12:29
What about EnVyUs and fnatic? Have they got their money for winning WESG?
2020-04-16 12:30
ofc, all teams are paid but windigo cuz payments to them have always issues to go through, I do think though it has taken way too long to solve this issue, it was like ages ago they won, how can this shit still be going lol.
2020-04-16 12:34
#247
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Europe AlL1n
Well I think org was involved In tax fraud or money laundry why would you have bank in Hong Kong and manegment in ukrain.
2020-04-16 15:10
Yeah man, I think the first place should be paid first, not lastly
2020-04-16 17:12
#84
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Serbia bra1np
When they won WESG, I have told myself - RICH GUYS, NOW THEY CAN PLAY EZ WITH LESS STRESS... but of course, they can't pay... scums... I hope every team will f**k WESG as organization
2020-04-16 12:29
Yikes
2020-04-16 12:30
#86
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Europe LoookATme
LMAO HAHAHHAHHHAH
2020-04-16 12:31
#87
 | 
Ukraine YUR4S
ofc it is China so fakin for them
2020-04-16 12:32
Typical China
2020-04-16 12:33
this is disgusting tbh
2020-04-16 12:34
china scene is the worst matchfixing their best team is worse than tier 3 NA MDL
2020-04-16 12:35
Yep
2020-04-16 15:53
shame
2020-04-16 12:35
alibaba is a joke,jack ma is one of the biggest scammer in history
2020-04-16 12:35
JACK MA GOD EZ TOP1 CHINA NUMBA WAN
2020-04-16 13:30
normal chinese ppl hate this so bad,i cant tell u too much or my whole family get arrest
2020-04-16 17:17
thats sad to hear. fuck all billionaires, theyre all scum
2020-04-16 17:18
THIS IS SENSATIONAAAAL
2020-04-16 12:35
flag checks out
2020-04-16 16:44
#96
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China hdgamerrr
This sure gives another reason for people to hate china XD
2020-04-16 12:37
+1
2020-04-17 01:15
I still love china
2020-04-17 18:04
#452
 | 
China hdgamerrr
fake flagger?
2020-04-17 18:05
Nope
2020-04-18 01:33
#486
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India EnfyB
XD look how he's defending China either he has Chinese origin or is fake flagging
2020-04-22 08:42
There's something very obscure about all this...
2020-04-16 12:38
Sucks for them but Windigo also seems like an incompetent org tbh
2020-04-16 12:38
guyss take capture chineses which are in your country to take your claims i dont see any solution about china anymore
2020-04-16 12:39
#100
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Lebanon Dogman69
ez for poizon with 20k/month at best NA roser complexity
2020-04-16 12:39
+1 lol
2020-04-16 15:53
um they won in 2018 i guess
2020-04-16 12:41
nvm
2020-04-16 12:42
#104
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Lebanon Dogman69
did Polish top 1 AGO gaming got paid for 2nd place?
2020-04-16 12:41
Yes
2020-04-16 12:42
what the fuck
2020-04-16 12:42
#108
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Hungary Gulaash
Scamms at the highest level
2020-04-16 12:42
stupid people "In order to safeguard the right of the players, we requested the organization's owner to provide a Letter of Commitment to ensure the players will be paid their prize money and we made this request on March 9, 2020. We received this Letter of Commitment in the mail on April 8, 2020." u responded after 1 month and u expect to be served in 1 week?
2020-04-16 12:44
#117
 | 
Lebanon Dogman69
do you know how to correctly write a letter of intent btw if you never done it beforehand and operate 3 different entities?
2020-04-16 12:46
#177
 | 
Slovakia SLAVak
+ do it in a foreign language
2020-04-16 13:42
#115
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Lebanon Dogman69
"After we started returning to work, as team Windigo dissolved, the contract between the organization and the players has expired and became legally invalid. In order to safeguard the right of the players, we requested the organization's owner to provide a Letter of Commitment to ensure the players will be paid their prize money and we made this request on March 9, 2020. We received this Letter of Commitment in the mail on April 8, 2020." yeah they might try to "legally" cancel the payment lol
2020-04-16 12:45
2 Year Later Windigo Gaming Still wAit for their wesg prize .d
2020-04-16 12:47
if you read the article, it seems that it's really not alone WESG's fault
2020-04-16 12:48
fuck WESG, this could be a fraud
2020-04-16 12:48
LMAO Alibaba clown, Monitor Chinese, cheating foreigners
2020-04-16 12:51
Wat
2020-04-16 12:55
F guys for him
2020-04-16 13:25
sad for cs...
2020-04-16 12:56
#132
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Latvia tibr0
XD
2020-04-16 12:57
>March 17, 2019 >coronavirus pick one
2020-04-16 12:58
#172
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Hungary Shiron212
XD
2020-04-16 13:35
+++++11111
2020-04-17 18:24
#135
 | 
China withsn
wtf?
2020-04-16 13:01
and i doubt they will get the 100% of the prize
2020-04-16 13:02
im not blame chinese people , but this tournament so stupid made from chinese .
2020-04-16 13:04
OMEGALUL
2020-04-16 13:06
SAD
2020-04-16 13:11
#152
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Germany X5ander
they will never get the Money, WESG never pay, hahahaha.
2020-04-16 13:12
+100
2020-04-16 15:51
WTF?
2020-04-16 13:12
scammed :)
2020-04-16 13:14
expected from chinese
2020-04-16 13:17
WTF
2020-04-16 13:21
made in China ez
2020-04-16 13:21
eZ China Numba 1 in not paying Price money
2020-04-16 13:27
China is the problem of the Earth
2020-04-16 13:30
The fact that the Windigo players STILL haven't earned their prize money is absolutely ridiculous. This just shows that WESG is one of those tournaments/tournament organizers that are an absolute scam. This is even WORSE than the "Gaming Paradise" incident. The fact that they had at least 7 months (before COVID-19) to pay the prize money, and the fact that this tournament had 10x more than the prize money of Gaming Paradise makes the Gaming Paradise incident look absolutely puny compared to this monstrosity.
2020-04-16 13:31
ez 4 Jack Ma
2020-04-16 13:33
#170
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Hungary Shiron212
That's so sad, I thought they got the money immediately :(
2020-04-16 13:35
How the fuck can something like this even happen? Windigo has to go to the court asap. They got robbed.
2020-04-16 13:38
#178
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Lebanon Dogman69
cant go to court with China, instaloss
2020-04-16 13:43
Fucking sad situation.
2020-04-16 18:46
+1 what #178 said. they will win cuz u have to sue them in china lol.
2020-04-16 13:45
#336 I hope the best for Windigo.
2020-04-16 18:46
no , you can easily sue alibaba since they are the main sponsor of this tournament and as far as I know Alibaba is a big ass company , considered international you can sue them and any of their international branches will have to give out the money if they win if they don't , they will face consequences from the court
2020-04-17 01:16
Is this a joke? How is this possible. Next time dont participate on this shitty tournaments.
2020-04-16 13:41
whaaaaaaaaaaaaat WESG WTF
2020-04-16 13:47
I would like to know.... FROM ALL ESL/FACEIT/DH WHATEVER T.O. Which of these didnt payout the money to their rightfull owners???? Or are they all 10/10 safe & paid?? Only pro teams would know this i guess ☹️☹️☹️🔥
2020-04-16 13:47
hard for Jack Ma.
2020-04-16 13:47
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH WHAT?
2020-04-16 13:47
#185
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Finland 0lter
wtf china again you doing this
2020-04-16 13:50
MADE IN CHINA
2020-04-16 13:51
is this happens because we are from Bulgaria?
2020-04-16 13:51
from Krakozhia
2020-04-16 14:04
+1 Lmao
2020-04-16 14:05
This meme is getting old, just saying
2020-04-16 15:50
who cars
2020-04-16 16:44
Yeah I guess ur right
2020-04-16 16:56
are you fuck you?
2020-04-16 17:02
Me is big gay
2020-04-16 18:13
sorry for late reply but... I am outside every day for many hours (Because one of my favorite things to do is BMX)
2020-04-16 21:02
BIG ok mens
2020-04-17 00:54
lol this sucks
2020-04-16 13:53
#191
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Syria LONE_8122
yikes hahaha
2020-04-16 13:54
#193
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Russia Praeter
Chinese scammers
2020-04-16 13:56
expected from china dogs
2020-04-16 13:59
To anyone suggesting that this is Windigo being shady, it could be, but this has happened plenty of times, both WESG and WCA (World cyber arena) are guilty of this, this isn't anything new
2020-04-16 14:00
#199
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Poland jakubyku
yikes
2020-04-16 14:04
It's actually very sad, especially from V1ctor ((((((((((((((
2020-04-16 14:05
Never trust Chinese. They owe a lot of prize pool even people from 2005 wait for their prize money
2020-04-16 14:07
who is waiting from 2005 ?
2020-04-16 14:13
who is waiting from 2005 ?
2020-04-16 14:13
Grubby Tod moon ex wc3 pros It was normally to never pay prize money at this time. Only esl paid their prize money but with 2 years delay
2020-04-16 14:17
your not right mate.Moon didnt play wcg 2005.. and ToD and Grubby were 4th and 3rd...and for sure they have been payed.uf we are talking for WCG for WEG Grubby didnt play...
2020-04-16 14:52
we talk about all Chinese tournaments. But also ESCW--> biggest scam tournament at this time.
2020-04-16 18:54
Keep waiting, guys.
2020-04-16 14:08
is this happens because we are from bulgaria?
2020-04-16 14:13
#215
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Guatemala Nicaraqua
is this are happen because we are from BULGARIA?????
2020-04-16 14:19
This meme is getting old, just saying
2020-04-16 15:49
lelel gipsy stealers
2020-04-16 14:23
so,if orgazation don't pay champion,why hlrt.org still supports the fraudster by holding tournaments on their site ?
2020-04-16 14:23
#220
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Portugal iamchadux
Gamimg Paradise 2015 feels
2020-04-16 14:26
Never Trust China :) never
2020-04-16 14:30
#228
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Brazil 3nzow
China...
2020-04-16 14:33
WESG are so scammers wtf
2020-04-16 14:34
#231
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Serbia bakedcs
Is this happens
2020-04-16 14:38
Expected from chineses.
2020-04-16 14:39
And the others orgs, do they get the prize?
2020-04-16 14:41
Pretty sure only Windigo and AGO didn't get anything
2020-04-16 15:48
AGO got paid #106
2020-04-16 16:44
Aa yeah right my bad only windigo didn't get paid then
2020-04-16 16:55
Chinese didnt pay money to cheater team, press F
2020-04-16 14:42
Flag Checks Out
2020-04-16 15:48
C'mom, Wuhan-from & WHO-owners, honour your commitments, ffs.
2020-04-16 14:42
#237
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Spain elskio
Expected kekw
2020-04-16 14:44
Azubu deja vu.
2020-04-16 14:44
What a shitty piece of journalism. The event took place in 2019, but it said "2018 event" which is confusing and misleading. If you read the article closely, this is obviously an opinionated piece designed to make WESG look bad. Why even mentioned the contact at WESG is on sick leave, when the very same contact responded to the email questions? Everything that Windigo said, it was quoted as if it's a verified fact. I don't think anyone would have operational knowledge of the current banking procedures in China unless they are actually there on the ground. Yet, anytime MIRAA mentions WESG its with a negative association such as "wasn't easy or timely," "evasive," or "ignored". It makes me wonder if he was paid by Windigo to publish this scathing piece. This is not news, its been reported so many times before and doesn't even deserve HLTV front page. Can't tell if MIRAA is intentionally trying to mislead the readers or if he's just a bad writer.
2020-04-16 15:05
how much did WESG pay you to make this comment
2020-04-17 02:25
#425
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Denmark Notallama
Say what you want about him, MIRAA is by far the most reliable journalist in the community as a whole, and one of the main reasons why HLTV news are considered overwhelmingly trustworthy.
2020-04-17 10:47
#244
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United States BGS
MIRAA, this was an excellent piece on this situation. freaking great job.
2020-04-16 15:05
WTF!! Ban WESG forever!!
2020-04-16 15:08
WESG PAY THEM
2020-04-16 15:11
Sad
2020-04-16 15:13
#250
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Korea thr33o
Feels bad for v1c7oR, he's not even that bad of a player from what I remember.
2020-04-16 15:15
He is actualu pretty good individually. Ive seen him play fpl, he is a beast.
2020-04-16 15:47
#307
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Korea thr33o
In my opinion, he should definitely be considered to be picked up, maybe even in a solid t2 team. I think he really deserves a spot somewhere instead of wasting away watching his other teammates improve.
2020-04-16 17:02
+1
2020-04-16 18:12
#253
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United Kingdom _xC4ctus
China fukin scammers
2020-04-16 15:22
#254
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Sweden Lingon
Seems more like it's the banks fault and not WESG but no one knows
2020-04-16 15:27
Hmm seems fishy they only had a problem with windigo's prize, though it might be caused by the large amount in comparison to other teams prizes. Windigo guy is saying wesg have not provided proof of this attempted payment and problems with the bank. At least wesg can share a receipt or document outlining the declination of the payment? Maybe it doesn't work like that in China. Anyway it will go to court if wesg don't pay up
2020-04-16 15:43
#265
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Sweden Lingon
Sue a chinese company? GL to them
2020-04-16 15:44
nt
2020-04-16 15:34
And this is why everyone hates china XD
2020-04-16 15:35
+1111111111
2020-04-16 16:41
Court case incoming. Unfortunate for the players and the org going through this mess
2020-04-16 15:35
is this happens because we are from BULGARIA???
2020-04-16 15:36
I think this meme is getting old now, just saying.
2020-04-16 15:45
Wesg... no need for any more words
2020-04-16 15:37
Why would you host a tournament if you knew you wouldn't be able to pay the price money from the beginning?
2020-04-16 15:43
Viktor "v1c7oR" Dyankovseems to have pulled the short straw: he has been unable to find a stable team since Windigo and is currently living off savings. And he bought a fucking Versace necklace to show off at Moche XL lmao
2020-04-16 15:58
could be fake from street market, balkan states have alot of them
2020-04-16 16:25
Phahahha you have much more of them in Paris, smelly suspicious africans selling them in front of Eiffel Tower
2020-04-18 11:41
really sad information
2020-04-16 16:01
never gonna see their money kek
2020-04-16 16:04
#285
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Romania b0jack
lol
2020-04-16 16:20
#287
 | 
Russia GramDEL
Lmao
2020-04-16 16:25
Gaming Paradise 2015 all over again xD
2020-04-16 16:28
CHINA N1!
2020-04-16 16:37
expected from china, nothing about them is legit lmao. best chinese team got carried by poland y’all should stop spending all that money on skins kkkkkkkkkkkk
2020-04-16 16:40
is this happens because we are from BULGARIA?
2020-04-16 16:43
lmao
2020-04-16 16:46
Every day there is negative news about China lmao
2020-04-16 16:52
#304
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Asia editz107
Corona skemmmer
2020-04-16 16:56
That's what you get for winning against MIBR 😎👍
2020-04-16 17:07
chinese scam event LULW
2020-04-16 17:23
Alibaba what a joke
2020-04-16 17:26
WHAT
2020-04-16 17:31
Feels bad for those windigo guys
2020-04-16 17:34
#316
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Iceland caverat
Thats a shame
2020-04-16 17:36
They d better stop “waiting”, unfortunately :/ China scammed once again, nothing new here
2020-04-16 17:57
Upd.: “ E2Tech was quick to reject Windigo's accusation and explained that the payment had been returned by the bank due to "unknown reasons". Similarly, a representative from Alibaba, the Chinese company that is behind WESG, told The Esports Observer that its payment had been "sent back multiple times". Both tournament organisers had run into the same problem: the bureaucratic nightmare caused by the fact that Windigo’s company registration, tax filing information and receiving bank were from different countries.” This is fishy af, maybe windigo are the ones being scammers :/
2020-04-16 18:16
#331
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Finland jUPPE!
Alibaba would never try to scam something like 500k. The problem has to be on Windigos side.
2020-04-16 18:30
+1, what a shame to know the org is from my country
2020-04-16 18:33
Expected from ukrainian org lol
2020-04-16 23:21
So basically fuck you WESG. China Chinese scum. Fuck China man. FUCK CHINA AALLLL THE WAY TO THE MOOOON
2020-04-16 18:06
#320
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France rezpecful
how much will they make per player ?
2020-04-16 18:08
Around 100k$ per player!
2020-04-16 22:39
#323
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Denmark Tiolith
hope this article puts some pressure on them !
2020-04-16 18:14
FUCK WESG. THE PLAYERS OF WINDIGO WERE HARD WORKING PEOPLE. YOU DON'T MESS WITH SOMEONES LIVES LIKE THAT!
2020-04-16 18:18
#327
 | 
India suvvycr7
dont take right now,they will insert corona nd windigo faked
2020-04-16 18:21
#328
 | 
Hungary raffai
really sad to see
2020-04-16 18:22
Big fat F
2020-04-16 18:32
#333
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Brazil MimimiBR
Foda
2020-04-16 18:32
No more Chinese events plz
2020-04-16 18:48
first it was bat soup soon it will be csgo pro soup
2020-04-16 19:10
expected from china
2020-04-16 19:12
A year later... S1mple stiil waits his 1 major.
2020-04-16 19:15
Very well written down, thanks for the info. Feel sorry for the players and org owners.
2020-04-16 19:26
#350
 | 
Chile nachooww
what a shame
2020-04-16 19:30
#351
 | 
Poland LOKKKI
Unluko
2020-04-16 19:34
#354
 | 
Hungary subzera
Rip
2020-04-16 19:49
lol unluko guyz
2020-04-16 19:56
Banchina
2020-04-16 19:57
Lmao China
2020-04-16 20:17
#360
 | 
Brazil oldStar
HA HA !
2020-04-16 20:21
When does hltv become a place full of retards?
2020-04-16 20:48
#367
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Bulgaria goshyy
Long time ago, all you see is people saying some dumb shit even tho this a serious case of people that worked so hard to win and then get robbed off half a million US dollars.
2020-04-16 20:51
flag checks out
2020-04-16 23:18
#394
 | 
Bulgaria goshyy
Wdym? I would have commentated the same thing if the winners were AGO for example.
2020-04-16 23:29
#366
 | 
Bulgaria goshyy
Ah yes, host a tournament with really good teams and a big prize pool and when the Bulgarian underdogs do all their best to win just scam them. Good job WESG!
2020-04-16 20:50
#368
 | 
Denmark Tzianzhin
What do you mean Coronavirus has delayed the payout, Corona has had serious impact on the economy only for like 4 months.
2020-04-16 20:54
#371
 | 
World Beard43
It's China, dishonour is to be expected.
2020-04-16 20:57
i expected better from them
2020-04-16 21:14
OMGLUL CAN'T BELIEVE THAT WHAT A SCANDAL gg WESG no one will participate in.
2020-04-16 21:20
LOL shit like this happened before too. They said they would "cross their i's and dot their t's" back in 2018, heehee!! (sauce: twitter.com/WESGcom/status/1019258508846..https://twitter.com/WESGcom/status/1019258508846555136
2020-04-16 22:27
Ahahaaahah 8/8
2020-04-16 23:17
#395
 | 
Brazil cadik
KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK china number one
2020-04-16 23:34
KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK NO HONOR AMONG THIEVES
2020-04-17 00:56
Windigo scammers ofc
2020-04-17 01:05
is this happens because we are from BULGARIA????
2020-04-17 01:15
WESG and clusterfuck. Name a better duo
2020-04-17 01:46
Was surprised ,saw china ,okay thats fine then
2020-04-17 02:31
#411
 | 
Japan IoIi
unexpected,, lol
2020-04-17 03:52
#414
 | 
Finland J3bediah
My comment was deleted when i said that they paid the money already but Windigo the org stole it. Why would you delete it mods? What rule did telling the truth broke?
2020-04-17 05:57
That a strong accusation. Why should we trust you bro?
2020-04-17 06:22
#418
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Finland J3bediah
Because wesg said they paid it
2020-04-17 06:44
they can say that. one can say that Sk never had an era. both can be fantasy. truth is easy to prove. just prove it and we are all fine.
2020-04-17 17:58
#461
 | 
Finland J3bediah
SK did have fluke era
2020-04-17 21:46
hahaha ,I wouldn't be surprised if this is truth
2020-04-17 09:23
Do the other teams receive their payment? I can't believe that Alibaba wants to scam something like 500k. Sad for this event
2020-04-17 10:40
And WESG has other competition items, such as DOTA 2 and SC2, why the other teams all receive their money?
2020-04-17 10:57
SLAVA UKRAINE to return a salary of 500,000
2020-04-17 14:37
China scamaz mens)). I feel bad for Windigo.
2020-04-17 15:41
Chinese events are just a joke. Alibaba scammers
2020-04-17 16:05
This is why Bitcoin Will succed, payment could have been complete in a matter of minutes without any of this stupid burocracy.
2020-04-17 16:14
I feel for the players but the ownership of windigo organisation was the one to blame, why would you have bank account in hongkong while operating in ukraine? I mean you can hardly blame banks for rejecting suspicious transactions right
2020-04-17 17:32
actually cis's finacial sistem's fault?
2020-04-17 17:54
now u see why they fixed and threw many games since their only partner is a betting website xd
2020-04-17 19:37
*Pretend to be surprised
2020-04-17 19:46
totally expected
2020-04-17 22:07
I wouldn't jump to conclusions on China about this one youngens, I would be more suspicious of the Windigo org owner clearly trying to avoid paying taxes (and other oversight) by running money through Hong Kong... Alibaba is also one of the biggest companies in the world and have literally 0 to gain from pocketing 500K . Not having the negative press is worth a lot more than that to them.
2020-04-18 02:12
Hum, I didnt read the article, so why a bulgarian team want to receive in china? LOL. So clear they are trying something ilegal. It's one worst than other.
2020-04-18 02:16
#475
 | 
China nihAoliu
Some people on HLTV are so brain dead, they comment without any thinking process. +daily biased media towards China, when talking about China, they just hate anything of it. In this case, clearly it is not the fault of WESG at all. I would say Windigo manager wanted to gain more money so they registered HK bank account, the fare of transation from China mainland to HK is lower than directly transation, and fare of transation from HK to the rest of the world is cheaper as you know.
2020-04-19 08:28
scam but expected from china or russia
2020-04-18 04:58
What does Russia have to do with it? Did you even read the article?
2020-04-25 12:40
scam country
2020-04-28 07:31
#470
 | 
Korea mg8968
Every asians hate china
2020-04-18 07:16
Deserved, throw more. Karma.
2020-04-19 20:15
#478
 | 
Portugal xxxruixxx
Expected from a nation of scammers..
2020-04-20 01:29
#479
 | 
Bulgaria NoMerci
Can they be condemned?
2020-04-20 10:34
and cursed
2020-04-24 08:42
CHIna SCammERS aliBaBa LUL
2020-04-21 03:43
#483
 | 
Brazil zZ3USz
the more impressive is wendigo winning one tournament :O
2020-04-21 18:39
#489
 | 
France Taklhippo
Fuck WESG WTF
2020-04-22 18:08
WESG should be banned from making future events tbh
2020-04-23 23:49
Uninstall CS:GO. Also stay away from money laundering businesses.
2020-04-24 09:24
expected from China
2020-04-24 12:32
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