Coaches get green light for ESL One: Road to Rio

ESL has informed teams that coaches will be allowed to communicate with their players in the ESL One: Road to Rio tournaments.

In an email sent to teams on Tuesday afternoon, ESL stated that "after the conclusion of the voting and further elaboration", it was decided that coaches "will be able to join the game server and talk to the players throughout the matches".

ESL had reached out to the teams competing in ESL One: Road to Rio on Monday to ask if coaches should be allowed to communicate with their players without restrictions or if they shouldn't even be allowed in the game server. The first option required the unanimous approval of all participating teams, sparking negative reactions from professional players and coaches on Twitter.

Coaches will be allowed to communicate with their players

HLTV.org knows that the vote had been requested by Valve itself following discussions with ESL and the Counter-Strike Professional Players' Association (CSPPA), who were also involved in the final decision.

ESL One: Road to Rio will begin on Wednesday with the first matches in Europe and in the Americas. The tournament series, which will also include the CIS, Asia and Oceania regions, is part of the qualifying process for this year's Counter-Strike Major, which will be held in Rio de Janeiro in November.

good!
2020-04-21 22:03
good!
2020-04-21 22:04
#9
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Denmark iLoVeReD
not good if only in timeouts i want it like back in 2016
2020-04-21 22:05
nice CS:GO and Coach must be
2020-04-21 22:05
Goodest
2020-04-21 23:45
sounds like peer pressure from ASStralis big bullies
2020-04-21 22:36
+1
2020-04-21 22:57
#144
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Lithuania arres
Or maybe a realization that everyone will probably ignore this rule. Or maybe a genuine thought that there would be no losers when you have a sixth person having an input during a round. Or maybe its a thought that cs got stale and this could make it more interesting or at least different for a while
2020-04-22 01:30
Big bullies
2020-04-22 11:08
#149
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Brazil SecondKS
good!
2020-04-22 02:01
#2
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Israel Sonnabend
cool
2020-04-21 22:03
#79
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United States Frotha
Guys don’t look at explosions
2020-04-21 22:39
#80
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Israel Sonnabend
what
2020-04-21 22:41
Are you fuck you?
2020-04-21 22:49
#89
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Israel Sonnabend
yes 😔😔
2020-04-21 22:49
#96
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United States Frotha
+1
2020-04-21 23:04
son of a dog
2020-04-21 23:10
You are lucky no flyes right now
2020-04-21 23:48
you are at my list
2020-04-22 00:37
#151
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Bulgaria goshyy
yeye clown
2020-04-22 02:19
#107
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Croatia mds818
lmao
2020-04-21 23:41
#122
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Europe Vallon3
Haha
2020-04-22 00:01
#3
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Europe AllowItFam
good!
2020-04-21 22:04
great news for NAVI
2020-04-21 22:04
*terrible news cuz they're going to run in with 10 seconds left every round
2020-04-21 23:43
haha +1
2020-04-22 00:26
That was Zeus...
2020-04-22 01:01
#145
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Lithuania arres
Nah.. they still have rounds like that
2020-04-22 01:32
Zeus: 20 seconds B1ad3: 10 seconds
2020-04-22 02:11
No coach: save every round
2020-04-22 04:43
*CHTO STOIM, VIHODIM BLYAT*
2020-04-22 05:10
bad
2020-04-21 22:04
#146
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Lithuania arres
Good
2020-04-22 01:32
Badly good
2020-04-22 14:02
cool
2020-04-21 22:04
Niiiiccceeee
2020-04-21 22:04
#14
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Armenia TiBoN29
Nice
2020-04-21 22:05
Nice
2020-04-21 22:05
= ez 4 nip then
2020-04-21 22:05
+1
2020-04-21 22:05
Yes, very happy for NiP. Threat is such a good coach
2020-04-21 22:30
It's shit
2020-04-21 22:05
No ez for B1GGY
2020-04-22 09:55
He sucks anyway
2020-04-22 14:17
#16
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Brazil Biel675
nice
2020-04-21 22:05
#18
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Europe jinpeii
thanks God
2020-04-21 22:05
god
2020-04-21 22:06
#23
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Sweden Lingon
Coaches are back 🦀🦀🦀
2020-04-21 22:06
Of course. It would be impossible to control either way lol
2020-04-21 22:06
#25
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Bulgaria GodHeaven
EZ faze ynk rapes all of them
2020-04-21 22:06
#33
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Czech Republic y0fl0w
LUL
2020-04-21 22:09
Ynk takes longer than a round to formulate a thought don't think this will be a big advantage
2020-04-21 22:11
#44
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Bulgaria GodHeaven
better than niko igl choking 12-3 lead to navi and cant close 14-16 13-16 games
2020-04-21 22:17
#47
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Brazil ZerongBr
u literally told us what mibr did sunday
2020-04-21 22:22
#53
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United Kingdom StonkBonk
The Faze 12-3 choke was on Train too
2020-04-21 22:24
#71
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Brazil ZerongBr
looks like train took nuke's position from comebacks
2020-04-21 22:34
Atleast Faze wasn’t losing 3v1s and 4v1s every round lol.And MIBR was 12-1 up not just 12-3.
2020-04-21 22:35
#28
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United States laiff
imagine if eg kept chet imapet right now this would be endgame
2020-04-21 22:08
niceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
2020-04-21 22:08
#32
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United States camdavis9
bad. Counter-Stirike is 5v5 and allowing coaches to be apart of the game makes it 6v6. This isn't the same CS that everyone else plays and it's unfair to teams who have a solid and well rounded starting 5 but not a good coach (which are limited in supply). Coaches should only be able to talk during timeouts and at halftime
2020-04-21 22:09
+1 this is shit and just means that pro play will become a different game if they don't reverse it after corona
2020-04-21 22:11
#38
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Slovakia Pepo))
wtf are u talking about, the coach isn't playing lmao
2020-04-21 22:12
#57
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Brazil ZerongBr
actually, back 2k16 the coaches were the igls of the team, making them the 6th player, which is actually what is happening here
2020-04-21 22:25
That's how professional level counter strike should be.
2020-04-21 22:46
No it definitely shouldn't. Being a great IGL and a skilled player is rare and important role. With this stupid change you can add more firepower to your squad, as IGL players are essentially useless. Failed experiment teams like your flair get a boost, while teams that took the time to form a cohesive lineup get the short end of the stick.
2020-04-21 23:37
I agree i feel like it worked out before, hopefully it will be in the online qualifier and not in the actual LAN major
2020-04-21 22:13
Yeah thats why they are called "coach" a coach should not affect the decision of a player ingame
2020-04-21 22:13
+1 hope it will be only on online.
2020-04-21 22:14
#42
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World breezy0
100% agree, it just makes it an unfair advantage for bigger teams vs upcoming lower tier teams who simply don't have the ressources for a coach. They already have the advantage of having a coach watching their demos and other stuff out of the game, this is just over the top. Game is 5v5 and should stay that way.
2020-04-21 22:16
#45
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World Notb8ing
You do realize it is tough to prevent anyway in online environment if coaches are allowed at all, coach can just join discord, dafuq u are supposed to do? :D. Other option would be not allowing coach at all, seems also bad imo, there is just no winning in this...
2020-04-21 22:21
there are admins in teamspeak in esl ect online leagues
2020-04-21 22:22
#50
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World Notb8ing
they can go different server in different program.
2020-04-21 22:24
but no1 legit does that since they are pro players and they know how to play this fucking game, its not rocket sience
2020-04-21 22:25
The problem is teams that can play at bootcamp cuz how r u gonna watch that there isnt a coach standing behind players telling them what to do.
2020-04-21 22:26
#52
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World breezy0
One thing is allowing it online, next step is allowing it on LAN. It's about preventing this stupid idea to succeed. Ofc the big teams vote yes, they just think about what is good for them, they don't care about the scene as a whole. That's where Valve and the community has to get involved and take a step forward and say NO.
2020-04-21 22:24
#61
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United States camdavis9
this tournament can't be online it's a major
2020-04-21 22:30
#63
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World Notb8ing
social distancing bro, there are no lan events played currently in cs.
2020-04-21 22:30
#70
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United States camdavis9
yeah but it's getting delayed until the end of the year
2020-04-21 22:33
If you really think mass gatherings will be back by the end of the year, you're delusional
2020-04-21 22:52
True, its like now teams don't need an IGL. The coach can do the IGL Work and remaining players can focus on their game. Which makes in less exciting and boring and more mechanical
2020-04-21 22:35
It is impossible to limit that in online play
2020-04-21 23:11
#108
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Croatia mds818
flag checks out, or you're a somewhat new player(didn't experience coaching back in the day)
2020-04-21 23:42
#169
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United States camdavis9
back in what day?
2020-04-22 05:57
#181
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Croatia mds818
when coaches were allowed also when they got removed(at the beginning) what a shitstorm it was
2020-04-22 08:16
#217
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United States camdavis9
you mean in 2016? You act like that's a long time ago
2020-04-22 21:39
#218
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Croatia mds818
it was
2020-04-22 21:42
Nt liquid fan, better ask your team to get a REAL coach that has impact
2020-04-22 04:47
#170
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United States camdavis9
adreN was an IGL for Liquid in his active years and made nitr0 and ELiGE in to a deadly duo. I have no concerns for my team with these rules. My problem is the smaller teams who can not afford or just do not have access to any good coaches who could impact their team in a way a top tier coach could. I think the rule is inconsiderate.
2020-04-22 05:59
“ My problem is the smaller teams who can not afford or just do not have access to any good coaches who could impact their team in a way a top tier coach could. I think the rule is inconsiderate.” This means finally having a possibility to a rich org to actually invest in their team’s results impactfully by adding a top tier stuff instead of upset losses to a mix with manager as “coach”. Plus, good IGL’s are, imo, actually even in more deficite then an experienced coach with knowledge because, being “IGL” in modern meaning, you dont just need to know the game well and frag (and both are very time demandful itself), but as well you need to somehow combine two things at the same time, demanding a Julius Caesar skill as well. This ends up in IGL being either a good fragger, sacrificing teams sctucture and idea, or being a bot with gold nova plays, sacrificing consistency and quality of gameplay for a viewer
2020-04-22 06:40
Weak
2020-04-21 22:10
Good
2020-04-21 22:17
#46
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Brazil xxAxx
Rip MIBR
2020-04-21 22:20
#51
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Liquid with a big disadvantage here since their coach is always least engaging with them during matches. They rarely do ever take timeouts!
2020-04-21 22:23
#171
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United States camdavis9
adreN was an IGL and he will be fine
2020-04-22 06:00
If this becomes the new norm, for tournaments moveing forward. Will it not be the deathstroke to the weaker igl's out there, making them obsolete?
2020-04-21 22:24
#68
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Brazil ZerongBr
actually, to all igls cuz why have a 19/23 player if u can buy a 29/23? Teams like navi could get rid off boombl4, and teams like faze will benefit cuz niko wouldnt be igling anymore and they could even call a superstar to take olof's role on the team. so u d have 6v6, the coaches being the 6th player due to they igling
2020-04-21 22:31
I am personally not a fan of this... I hope it's only something they feel they need to do, as long as this corona outbreak keeps all big events online. It is after all a rule they can't enforce at the current moment...
2020-04-21 22:35
#78
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Brazil ZerongBr
same bro, coaches igling sucks, takes out the thing of cs being played only by players, all the energy behing this, so i couldnt agree more with u
2020-04-21 22:39
#85
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Canada flame7
I don't see what's wrong with it being 6v6, every other team sport does this and the level of competition benefits from this. This would also allow players like huden to fully commit to a coaching role and have great impact on any team they join.
2020-04-21 22:48
boombl4 3d best player in NaVi. He has some nice highlights, but people remember only couple of his bad games at last event
2020-04-21 22:53
#148
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Brazil ZerongBr
im not saying hes bad, but inconsistent nonetheless
2020-04-22 01:46
boombl4 is 3d best player in NaVi. He has some nice highlights, but people remember only couple of his bad games at last event
2020-04-21 22:53
agree on the reasoning but the example is litteraly one of the worst you could find: when not IGLing boombl4 frags better than flamie and Perfecto.
2020-04-22 10:02
These bots have that “IGL” excuse for a fan base to have gold nova sprays on pro level instead of working on themselves to stay competitive. If the thing will come to offline (I doubt it would), these bots can just switch to coaches and become impactful there with their “mastermind calls”, making such people as “analysts” relevant again (saving time for coach preparation for games and helping with macro strategies). If these “masterminds” wont start fragging without IGL function - time to finally get good, no excuses left
2020-04-22 04:55
+1 IGL is just excuse for bad players
2020-04-22 06:24
Yep, same as “support”
2020-04-22 06:31
#56
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Denmark twinseN
Ez for Astralis , we all know its true
2020-04-21 22:25
#69
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Brazil ZerongBr
i d say faze due to niko doesnt needing to igl anymore, so yeah
2020-04-21 22:32
+1
2020-04-22 04:55
#60
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France Il_padrino
Omg yes
2020-04-21 22:28
n i c e
2020-04-21 22:30
Such a good improvement !!
2020-04-21 22:30
What they expect ? There no real way to restrict coaches from talking in Online matches, there a 1000 ways to avoid restiction So logical move do not resticting at all
2020-04-21 22:32
#67
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Hungary Shiron212
Good for the teams, they need the mental support
2020-04-21 22:31
So bad for liquid. Adren 0 comms.
2020-04-21 22:36
This will improve Faze massively, ence, navi , vitality also
2020-04-21 22:38
This can be huge for ENCE if Twista can call
2020-04-21 22:41
EZ FOR ASTRALIS AND THE MASTERMIND ZONIC
2020-04-21 22:43
that's exactly what I thought as well. Astralis is in a big advantage (compared to other teams) but hard work pays off so its deserved
2020-04-21 22:47
nah not rly. astralis is usually well oiled machine and every player know what to do+they have the best igl in the world. they dont need zonic every round and if something is wrong then they can just take time out. same goes for fnatic and probably mouz as well. on the other hand teams like navi or faze will benefit much MUCH more from this...
2020-04-22 08:11
+1
2020-04-22 10:09
S1mple got fucking robbed of their maincaller in 2016 and now na vi is doing well again they give back the coach maincalling? Fuck this!
2020-04-21 22:48
This will make it Ez4Ence when Jammpi can play
2020-04-21 22:49
I was scared NaVi can throw Road to Rio CIS due to overconfidence, but now I know Blade won't let them do it
2020-04-21 22:49
Or Sasha would tell him to shut up like in good old flipsid3 times :D
2020-04-22 04:56
I think nowadays Blade have enough authority to tell Sasha to shut up
2020-04-22 08:07
nice. This is real CS.
2020-04-21 22:58
-gla1ve +es3tag, ez for astralis now KEKW
2020-04-21 23:08
Sad for people like Golden that got there by understanding the game, communication, leading his team. If this is permanent, this is the end of an era that began early 00s.
2020-04-21 23:09
Nah I don't this will extend to after the corona shit blows over. But this makes for interesting tournament at least imo.
2020-04-21 23:43
Would have been a desaster if not, honestly. Would have denied future legacies potentially.
2020-04-21 23:16
Good for ence at least
2020-04-21 23:22
FaZe win major now
2020-04-21 23:32
#104
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Russia Nikosimus
watch Astralis, NiP and DIG excel right now boiiis
2020-04-21 23:33
only during timeouts?
2020-04-21 23:39
Nope, full time, welcome back to 2016 :D
2020-04-22 04:58
This should really be good for lots of teams Astralis and Navi with legendary coaches. Sucks for liquid though adren will just sit quietly with his notepad no matter what
2020-04-21 23:42
So maybe they finally sign someone more relevant as a coach
2020-04-22 04:59
astralis 7v5 now pog
2020-04-21 23:44
KEKW
2020-04-22 04:59
Imo this will be great. Hopefully we can see some awesome calls in the coming weeks
2020-04-21 23:46
#116
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Portugal joaosenra
They bring back the coaches finaly a good move from valve, now the teams can be more consistent and there is less risck of chokes like Liquid, mibr etc because they will be always someone to tell the team to calm down and give some solutions, this should be made in all cs go events because the coachs need to have more important role in the team
2020-04-21 23:55
+1 Same thoughts about bringing back coach relevance
2020-04-22 05:00
#118
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Poland Kobel_
I wouldn't mind if hltv started listing coaches next to players when you're opening a team page. Always have to go to Liquipedia for that info.
2020-04-21 23:54
+2, HLTV need to finally straign their asses and code this thing into HLTV
2020-04-22 05:01
Valve always comes up with great decisions love u volvo
2020-04-21 23:59
Coaches should be listed with players now. But if other OTs follow in suit with Valve, IGLs might become obsolete?
2020-04-22 00:00
Honestly i like that, some coaches can IGL, what means that the leaders can focus more on fragging. I like that.
2020-04-22 00:03
and then get destroyed on lan because then failed to adapt..meanwhile smart team like astralis will make it as normal as possible..
2020-04-22 04:51
We don't know how is this going to work on LAN tournament's from ESL.
2020-04-22 09:51
for online tournament only i guess because no way they can control it, legally allowing it or teams probably going to abused it anyway
2020-04-22 12:45
I don't see why would they not allowed it.
2020-04-22 13:18
#126
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Turkey Fongn212
well FaZe got a huge buff imo
2020-04-22 00:33
At least faze will close up a map this time
2020-04-22 00:33
master mind cs inc
2020-04-22 00:38
EZ 4 S1MPLE
2020-04-22 01:01
Are thorins atendings majors polish brazil?
2020-04-22 01:08
i hope he can come...
2020-04-22 01:12
Yes, he will stay at my house 😳🔪
2020-04-22 01:22
good
2020-04-22 01:12
Mibr nem tem técnico kkkk
2020-04-22 01:19
lez go Blad3
2020-04-22 01:13
#139
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African Union mikecool
Interesting
2020-04-22 01:14
coach as the sixth player, the RTS player
2020-04-22 01:29
FaZe buffed thanks +1
2020-04-22 03:10
Who needs coach it u can install 10k cheat? XD
2020-04-22 04:55
#221
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Europe AlL1n
Are you living under rock? This is done like 3 years ago...
2020-04-23 00:24
Who needs coach it u can install 10k cheat? XD
2020-04-22 07:48
Great for: NAVI/Blad3(unless s1mple toxic mode) Nip/Threat (probably) Who else?
2020-04-22 11:05
S1mple: "that's my secret captain i'm always toxic"
2020-04-22 17:02
I kind of hope we go back to 2016 coaching rules, games and strats were much better and it forces orgs to actually invest in a good coach instead of a hype guy.
2020-04-22 11:53
niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice
2020-04-22 12:27
To be fair, all of you saying CS is 5v5 and coach talking makes it 6v6 let's compare to other sports… Soccer/football: coach can scream/give directions at any time (game still considered 11v11, not 12v12). Basketball/icehockey: coach can scream/give directions at any time (game still considered 5v5, not 6v6). Basketball is the best example imo because it works with timeouts too. If you consider CS an eSPORT then why would you limit the coach's talking? You still need a captain for in-game that everyone will listen too, because if you think a coach can do all of that then why do some teams needs pyschologists and other staff?
2020-04-22 12:28
+1
2020-04-22 12:57
#197
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Serbia bra1np
OMG, I just can imagine that screaming issues players will have :D
2020-04-22 13:18
#199
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World Beard43
Is this just for the online qualifiers? If so, that's completely understandable. I don't think it would be possible to properly enforce a ban on comms especially when some teams will be in the same room. But I do think that the coach only being able to communicate at half time and tactical timeouts is a great feature of competitive CS.
2020-04-22 14:16
After covid-19 looks like everything will be online
2020-04-22 17:00
so no need of karrigan in mouz?
2020-04-22 14:27
Astralis will definitely benefit from this
2020-04-22 15:06
did ALL teams vote yes ???
2020-04-22 16:12
#214
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Brazil Goldn9
Great time for MIBR kick your coach
2020-04-22 20:53
Its first time after break and we are going to see incredible rounds
2020-04-22 23:16
#222
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Ukraine FGVM
Nice! EZ for Blade =)
2020-04-23 02:59
#225
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Ukraine EmErAJID
Obviously it'd be unfair if they wasn't allowed to speak as those who re in the bootcamp would talk anyway.
2020-04-23 07:40
EZ for Navi, Astralis and Faze
2020-04-23 21:57
#229
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Japan pawbeast
XD Dont compare randon ynk to zonic
2020-04-24 12:12
ofc ynk is worse than zonic but Nico now can play on full power so that`s why ez for Faze
2020-04-24 17:48
#227
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Israel Stryger
Welcome back, k good cs
2020-04-24 07:04
#228
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Japan pawbeast
So astralis wont drop a map With godlike coach like zonic
2020-04-24 12:11
ez for zonic and astralis
2020-04-25 20:16
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