[VOD] Discussing match length, MR12 viability, pistol rounds, and more on HLTV Confirmed: Gamechanger tonight with Rejin*

In a special episode of HLTV Confirmed, going live today at 23:00 on Twitch, we dive deep into theorycrafting and examine what could be done to further improve CS:GO as an esport.

Timestamps available in YouTube comments

*Jacob "Pimp" Winneche was originally announced as a guest, but was unable to make the show

The special show, titled Gamechanger, will be the first of its kind, with this one focusing on the discussion surrounding match length, the new economy, and the need for pistol rounds. Everything goes, and every idea — no matter how wild — will be entertained by the panel.

Rejin is ready to bring new ideas to the fold

Joining the show, alongside usual panelists Chad "SPUNJ" Burchill and Milan "Striker" Švejda, will be two Danish guests: Pimp and Allan "Rejin" Petersen. After initiating the discussion on Twitter, Pimp is expected to bring in some fresh ideas, while Rejin already shared some of his thoughts on MR12 and pistol rounds.

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Denmark Jacob 'Pimp' Winneche
Jacob 'Pimp' Winneche
Age:
24
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
976
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.14
Australia Chad 'SPUNJ' Burchill
Chad 'SPUNJ' Burchill
Age:
30
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.87
Maps played:
158
KPR:
0.62
DPR:
0.73
APR:
0.18
Czech Republic Milan 'Striker' Švejda
Milan 'Striker' Švejda
Age:
-
Rating 1.0:
1.30
Maps played:
11
KPR:
0.90
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.13
Denmark Allan 'Rejin' Petersen
Allan 'Rejin' Petersen
Age:
32
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.80
Maps played:
39
KPR:
0.59
DPR:
0.78
APR:
0.14
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nice!
2020-05-18 12:41
lol why mr12 ?
2020-05-18 14:15
#79
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Denmark YoPii 
so astralis can stay top1. They want to controle entire game.
2020-05-18 14:22
why not mr 13. its the same as mr15 but less
2020-05-18 15:08
why not mr 3. its the same as mr15 but less
2020-05-18 16:37
i mean why mr12. then halfs would be 6-6 which is shit
2020-05-18 16:40
Who cares if the half is 6 6
2020-05-18 16:55
i do. because its a tie then. i want a team to win the half
2020-05-18 16:58
#192
allu | 
Canada lunchies 
pretty sure mr12 changes half length to 11 rounds for some reason could be wrong though!
2020-05-18 23:57
no. mr12 is 12 rounds per half
2020-05-19 00:00
12 is the same as 15, nice logic
2020-05-18 21:00
#184
fat | 
United Kingdom zakariin 
Odd number means someone wins the half unlike 12 which would tie at the half
2020-05-18 23:10
because they want to brainwash you to think that valorant have better system with their mr12
2020-05-18 16:54
#156
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Brazil hono 
It used to be mr12 until around 2004.
2020-05-18 18:45
omg, imagine promoting this toxic squeky dorrito looking head lying on his shoulder like he has no neck calling himself someone who he isn't selling overpriced hotdogs and not serving them with ketchup guy. SAD!
2020-05-18 15:03
Cool
2020-05-18 12:42
#3
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Australia CrashrMate 
ok
2020-05-18 12:42
#4
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China |REM1| 
stfu
2020-05-18 12:42
tosic
2020-05-18 12:43
Toxic
2020-05-18 16:14
tosic****
2020-05-18 16:15
#5
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Portugal Agricultor 
yes
2020-05-18 12:43
#6
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Finland I_never_bait 
fuck yeah rejin is back
2020-05-18 12:43
#200
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United States Fuffy 
Rejin is best guest :)
2020-05-19 04:57
#8
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Portugal xxxruixxx 
Interesting topics.
2020-05-18 12:44
Call Thorin as well else he will feel offended.
2020-05-18 12:45
He is offended at everyone with a danish passport.
2020-05-18 13:36
Why?
2020-05-18 13:57
#74
tiziaN | 
Germany FREIER 
Only in your head.
2020-05-18 14:17
#75
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United Kingdom fishdisher 
i thought the meme was hes sucking of dev1ce saying hes great? ok then
2020-05-18 14:18
#127
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Denmark ChirosK 
He is just trying to be edgy to stay relevant..
2020-05-18 16:32
everyone should have realized that by now
2020-05-18 16:35
trick god mr.pimp is back
2020-05-18 12:44
We need professeur!
2020-05-18 12:46
#105
720 | 
Romania TheFatKid 
+1. No prof no fun
2020-05-18 15:17
Rejin is fun tho
2020-05-18 15:35
#12
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United States gtmaniacmda 
a world where the CS copy (valorant) has pistol rounds and CS proper doesn't... would be weird!
2020-05-18 12:46
Mr12 is stupid just watch the matches that would be over at 12-8 and that end for win for the team behind. Glad that valve give a fuck about other opinions
2020-05-18 12:47
#15
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Europe NiKoGOD4ever 
Mr12 might bring more exicting and sweaty games
2020-05-18 12:47
Nope how many 16-14 had we during r2r? A lot. + a lot ot
2020-05-18 12:49
Thats the thing - a lot, and when there is a bo3 with all 3 maps going 16-14, its hella long both for the players and for the viewers (timewise). Imagine watching 4 hours of basketball or football or hockey, that shit would get booring halfway through, same goes for CS.
2020-05-18 16:10
Do you see fewer viewers or more? I see more. And of players perspective, if you are a pro you have to live with the game and the rules. As casual player when I join a game I joint it cuz i wanna win 16 rounds not 12 or 10 or 50
2020-05-18 20:32
Well you want to win 16 rounds because valve put 16 rounds as the goal of winning the game, same would be if they decide to change to 12, you would have to adapt to that. Also lately there are more viewers cause of the corona shit, not sure what have been the average numbers on previous LAN tournaments.
2020-05-19 13:56
I want 16 rounds not 12. That is what I wrote and what I mean. If I want short 20 minute games I play Overwatch
2020-05-19 13:58
And I wrote that you want 16 rounds because thats what initially had been in this game. If from the start it would have been MR20 or any other number, you probably would have wanted that amount of rounds.
2020-05-19 13:59
I want 16 rounds cuz I want 16 round. I already wrote this 3 times. And you come up with the same assumption over and over again. bye
2020-05-19 14:01
lul ok
2020-05-19 14:18
#186
nEGRo | 
Bulgaria dab0tjk 
nba games last for 3+ hours due to ad breaks
2020-05-18 23:16
but they dont play constantly 3+ hours and thats the difference, because in cs go match you have breaks between games and halfs, while in nba you have half time breaks, team timeouts, and in every quarter there needs to be 2 television timeouts. Team timeouts are 1 minute and 15 secs, tv timeouts are 2 minutes and 45 secs and 3 minutes and 15 secs
2020-05-18 23:56
#196
nEGRo | 
Bulgaria dab0tjk 
yeye exactly my point but if they introduce this in cs its ok imo
2020-05-19 00:23
they should have more time to rest but reducing rounds is big no
2020-05-19 00:26
in NBA you work physical a lot more so they need the pauses.
2020-05-19 14:00
Would only bring randomness
2020-05-18 13:36
Need an economy change for that though....if ct side has to save/lowbuy the majority of the rounds it sucks...
2020-05-18 14:58
#42
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World Beard43 
+1
2020-05-18 13:27
#62
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Ukraine volanchick 
13-8*
2020-05-18 13:54
valve had nothing to do with how the game was played The CS Community of 1999-2004 is responsible for it
2020-05-18 20:27
what has the past to do with the presents? In CSGO Valve alone decides how to play it. And they say MR16 and give a fuck of other opinions.
2020-05-18 20:29
cuz u have to respect your Games Community But since mr15 will always be better and superior to mr12. They wont even start thinking about going back to the past
2020-05-18 20:32
and the community play Mr 15 cuz valve decided that and all the players that play csgo every day agree to that.
2020-05-18 20:33
again: Valve is not responsible for Tournament Rules unless its their OWN whatever. It wont change
2020-05-18 20:34
And again: All tournament organizer copy Valve standards. Or do you see a different map pool? where is cache? why vertigo? cuz valve said so.
2020-05-18 20:36
#14
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Portugal TwistedJayPee 
mr12? lul f u pimp
2020-05-18 12:47
#28
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Singapore Asturobot 
+1
2020-05-18 13:09
#17
Brehze | 
Russia MH- 
stop trash talking
2020-05-18 12:49
pistol rounds should be 950$ instead of 800$ for more pistol/nades variations, so teams can find their approach. with 800$ it's just aimfest
2020-05-18 12:50
I fully agree with this, 950 would be great and we would see more P250 as a direct result, this tho, would result in you having 100 dollars next round. seems like a fair tradeoff to me. +Smoke + armor
2020-05-18 13:57
#212
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Serbia DjapeZ 
I agree with this. As they said t can buy p250 and armor, but ct can buy nades so they can counter them. I think 950$ is best option if they want change pistol rounds.
2020-05-19 15:23
#20
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Ukraine MADE_IN_WUHAN 
Pimp 🤢🤮 he should be banned for ban evasion
2020-05-18 12:52
#29
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Singapore Asturobot 
+1
2020-05-18 13:10
mr12 is hecking good. People hating on it are newfags. but also fuck pimp, annoying ass - *censoring myself so I don't get banned again, fuck you admins*
2020-05-18 13:03
#23
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Brazil Karlogaria 
-1 for the initial statement, but +1 for the second. Annoying dude
2020-05-18 13:05
You haven't been on here nearly long enough to call anyone a "newfag" ROFL. mr12 is retarded. CS has been Mr 15 since like 2004. There is no reason to change now. The only people who want it changed are those with short attention spans who can't sit through a whole match. Also, pistol rounds are an important part of CS as well
2020-05-18 18:24
Not on here nearly long enough? Buddy, you must be pseudo-non-newfag. 2012 (that was a guess, just checked, it's 2010, woow props so good). Anyway, I fucking played MR12, you idiot, so take a guess how "newfag" I am. I switched to promod, where it was mr12 as well, and now I'm playing CSGO ("now", as a hobby obviously.). Also I don't even fully disagree. I just want mr12 in pugs with maybe a different money system, because like u said pistols are so important. Pugs rn are way too serious anyway imo. Officials could still be mr15, but if people then decide that that sucks, to have 2 different systems, then both should be mr12 ;).
2020-05-19 16:59
oh yeah guess im a newfag. Being someone who plays since Beta 7. who played every single Mode from hostage rescue to Timers to MR 12 until 2004 when CPL started using MR 15
2020-05-18 20:29
yes
2020-05-19 16:59
#213
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Serbia DjapeZ 
In my opinion mr12 could be good thing. Bcs matches are too long, and as for viewers so for players. But if u go mr12 you must change economy so u have less half buy and eco rounds and more full buy rounds.
2020-05-19 15:26
#22
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Brazil Karlogaria 
My humble opinion 1) Pistol rounds and game length stay as they are. Want a shorter game? Watch Valulrant, kid 2) OT stays as it is, always with 16k starting cash. Economy shouldn't be a problem in a tiebreak 3) Big tournaments, including majors, should have BO5 finals
2020-05-18 13:04
#30
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Singapore Asturobot 
+1 300 iq
2020-05-18 13:10
#43
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World Beard43 
+1 on all points
2020-05-18 13:28
+1 except 16k, i like 10k.
2020-05-18 13:33
+1
2020-05-18 18:25
#214
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Serbia DjapeZ 
Fck 10k. Its ot, so for 30 rounds teams showed same with different amounts of buys. So in ot give them all firepower and utility they can get for this 6 rounds and see who will be better. No 10k, we dont want to watch half buy to stay in game after 30+ rounds fighting.
2020-05-19 15:28
#52
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Russia Windcast 
+1 best opinion
2020-05-18 13:37
yes, but valve wont do this because it would be a good idea. if they do braindead shit instead it gets ppl to write angry rants in twitter and then their "social media exposure" goes up
2020-05-18 13:39
#69
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Brazil Karlogaria 
Stonks stuff
2020-05-18 14:02
#86
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Slovakia Kurki 
+1 can agree
2020-05-18 14:31
Agree, although 10k has sth exciting as well but for the sake of competetiveness it should always be 16k
2020-05-18 15:00
#99
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Ukraine ksay 
how economy factor in OT is a problem? it's a major part of the game and playing around economy is a major team skill. imho 10k is more competitive
2020-05-18 15:09
#143
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Brazil Karlogaria 
As I said, I don't think it should be a problem considering you only have up to 3 rounds as each side
2020-05-18 17:15
#145
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Ukraine ksay 
i know what u think i ask why u think so because 16k 3 rounds per side will end up nothing like an actual game where u have to make compromises and play accordingly with what u get
2020-05-18 17:27
#165
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Brazil Karlogaria 
3 rounds at most at each side isn't as representative of CS economy management knowledge as 15 rounds are. You already cared enough about that on the 30 you played. Decide the OT based on aim and execution/counterexecution without having to worry about what you buy (not to mention 16k isn't infinite cash)
2020-05-18 20:26
#178
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Ukraine ksay 
of course it isn't representative i just think it's better than no economy factor at all u should be punished for picking up those 2 awps on ct sides and saving should matter imho ofc i just disagree when people call 16k more competitive option
2020-05-18 21:07
+1 8/8 300IQ smart brasileirinho
2020-05-18 15:14
+1 if they change game length to 12 like Valorant. That would mean cs go will be gone really soon.
2020-05-18 16:02
#118
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World breezy0 
+1
2020-05-18 16:05
16k too much, 10k too low. 12k is ideal imo, so players will have to manage their economy wisely, but they will never go broke at the same time
2020-05-21 23:24
#24
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Finland pate1 
just revert back to old economy system
2020-05-18 13:05
#35
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Czech Republic Noxar 
no
2020-05-18 13:13
I liked it when it was bo3 and the economy was a hit lop sided so if u really got going you could stomp the other team 16-6 or like 16-8 and be done in like 25 mins. Now with the economy unless you absolutly smash them the scores are lile 16-13 and can take an hour. So bo3 can last 3 hours where as before could last half of that. Saying that though tennis is sometimes like an hour for a game and sometimes can go on for 5 hours. So depends on the match up. I have noticed recently alot of games being very even. Also pistol rounds dont you fucking dare take them away. They tried it in the past it was crap. Its one of the things that gives the game its charm. Starting off with next to nothing and building into the game.
2020-05-18 13:07
#31
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Singapore Asturobot 
+1
2020-05-18 13:11
True...but pistol rounds are kinda random outbof the professional/ high elo faceit world....i mean the glock for example gives bad players a chance to get lucky and fuckn up while running around retardedly spamming their glocks
2020-05-18 15:03
#132
Rob4 | 
Czech Republic T18^ 
I think CT's should have some advantage because their full buy is much more expensive. If T's plant the bomb and still lost the round they can have same or even more expensive buy than CT's.
2020-05-18 16:43
CT side is already easier to win compared to T side. I dont think it should get any easier.
2020-05-21 23:26
#220
Rob4 | 
Czech Republic T18^ 
Yes that's what I'm talking about. I just described the situation how it is now and it's in a great state.
2020-05-22 14:29
oh my bad, I thought you meant they should improve CT's economy even more.
2020-05-22 14:41
#222
Rob4 | 
Czech Republic T18^ 
no no, I think now its in a very balanced state
2020-05-22 15:14
By random do you mean the one that you expect to win doesnt always? Or that sometimes something crazy happens like a glock headshot from across the map. Thats the beauty of the pistol that if you play it wrong you can fuck up the rest of the match or atleast thats how it was. Now not so much. Its a buying dilemma do you go for more nades?? Armour?? More defuse kits? No defuse kits? Thats whys its great it forces you to be creative and sacrifice things and place a bet on how you want it to go.
2020-05-18 19:02
MR12 is bad idea More rounds = less random factor Postols should stay cuz its big part of the game, teams develop pistol rounds tactics, sometimes we see nice highlights with Usp one taps Pro cry only because too many games every day with this online format
2020-05-18 13:07
#34
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Czech Republic Noxar 
+1
2020-05-18 13:13
#27
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Ukraine McSwell 
MR30 is ok when it doesn't come to stupid bo5 format.
2020-05-18 13:08
#32
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Singapore Asturobot 
Eww pimp
2020-05-18 13:11
#33
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Europe meneert 
noooooooo at 23:00 ((((
2020-05-18 13:12
#36
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Sweden axelious 
Interesting! I think MR12 would be beneficial in the long round but it sure feels wierd. Another choice would be no overtime in map 1 and 2 (Only one deciding round or something). And ofc their should never be a BO5.
2020-05-18 13:15
But bo5 rewards the team with a big mappool, which should mean less upsets against the wordclass/too 5 teams in finals....on the other hand the 4th and 5th map can get really sloppy and exhausting if the first maps were close or even went into ot
2020-05-18 15:05
#144
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Sweden axelious 
Well you still need a good mappool to get to the final in a BO3 since you will face alot of different teams. And anyways, it's wierd that the team that would be the best BO5 team might go out in the quarter or semis since they are BO3:s. Too me BO5 are too long and doesn't actually benefit the game. It's so boring if it goes 3-0 anyways.
2020-05-18 17:23
#37
Twistzz | 
Norway mbgOD 
mr12 garbage remove pistol rounds? are you retard?
2020-05-18 13:15
#39
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Brazil Karlogaria 
Millennial Valorant "pro players" ideas
2020-05-18 13:19
Lmao people disagreeing just because Pimp said it XD Soon enough more pros will agree with them and ya'll haters disappear like Jamal's father but thats none of my business 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎
2020-05-18 13:17
#40
B1T | 
Ukraine devitt 
It should be MR16 with no OT. First team to get 16 rounds win the match, if the score is 15-15 then the last round is determining the winner This would decrease match time alot
2020-05-18 13:23
No
2020-05-18 13:30
#50
B1T | 
Ukraine devitt 
why? long OT is fucking trash, should be deleted
2020-05-18 13:36
Cant you see ct or tr would get advantage with only 1 round ot?
2020-05-18 13:37
#54
B1T | 
Ukraine devitt 
Can you read? There is no OT with what i suggested, just the first team to get 16 round is with the match, no OT's, if the match is close 15-15 then the last one is determining
2020-05-18 13:39
Same thing, still 1 team will get 1 more round on ct or tr and get advantage.
2020-05-18 13:47
#88
B1T | 
Ukraine devitt 
How is that? Every team is able to get as much T/CT rounds as possible, everyone in the same conditions If the score somehow comes to 15-15 then it's only the problem of those who couldn't close the match when they got 15th rounds. In the early days 2002-2004(if im not mistaken) it was like this but only with MR12. I mean you're complaining much but what can you suggest about decreasing match time? With OT system we have rn matches can go for 5 hours long, that is exhausting as for viewers as for players
2020-05-18 14:34
For me as a viewer overtime is exciting, even if its 5 ots or sth like that....the pressures up really high and the strats are getting less and less in the stratbook And ur option with the 1 round is interesting but not really balanced imo cz first of all its just one deciding round + one team plays on their lets say better side or worse side...in ot with first to 4 both teams have the equal chance to play 3 rounds on both sides if needed...
2020-05-18 15:09
Are u retarded it's clearly unfair teams must have equal rounds on each side.
2020-05-18 15:41
Are u retarded it's clearly unfair teams must have equal rounds on each side.
2020-05-18 15:41
Are u retarded it's clearly unfair teams must have equal rounds on each side.
2020-05-18 15:41
Are u retarded it's clearly unfair teams must have equal rounds on each side.
2020-05-18 15:41
#56
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Brazil Karlogaria 
He probably thinks cs is a death match
2020-05-18 13:39
You should learn what max rounds means If you're asking for first team to get to 16 rounds, that is max rounds mr 15. It's the maximum number of rounds before halftime
2020-05-18 18:27
#155
B1T | 
Ukraine devitt 
ok thank you for explanation but i guess you got my point
2020-05-18 18:28
Stfu Pimp
2020-05-18 13:24
If Pimp is analist im an astronaut.
2020-05-18 13:29
-Professeur +Pimp one of the worst roster moves of all time
2020-05-18 13:32
Can't be worse than -aleksib +suNny
2020-05-18 13:54
#48
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Europe jok9rz 
just to be clear for new young players: MR12 was the basic MR for CS since competitive starts (1.3, 1.6...), it changed in 1.6 to MR16 to give more chance to the team loosing the gunround. Why change to MR12? Cause this fucking pro players are bored to play 4hours a BO3 because now there is more 16-13 / 16-14 than 16-5 games. Economy system you will say... well, deal with it! Humans always try to find easy way to do less, even when they are paid to play a video games.
2020-05-18 13:36
#57
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Russia Windcast 
+111111
2020-05-18 13:40
#66
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Ukraine volanchick 
It is mr15 now not mr16
2020-05-18 14:00
#76
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Europe jok9rz 
you understand what i meant...
2020-05-18 14:19
if there are a lot of 16-14 games then thats a good reason to stay on mr15 format because mr12 would have even more variance
2020-05-18 14:24
#90
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Europe jok9rz 
exactly
2020-05-18 14:38
#158
jks | 
Australia Rene_Gade 
As someone who watches a lot of CS.. there are some filler rounds that have no tension. The casters fill them up by talking shit all the time. I think mr12 would be a better viewer experience. Watching a 3 hour game isn't super fun either.
2020-05-18 18:47
#180
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Europe jok9rz 
in that case just play OT format.
2020-05-18 22:20
#58
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World Beard43 
Games aren't too long. MR12 would reduce the excitement (and incidence) of comeback games and possibly cause more upsets. The current overtime format is great, but with the full 16k or possibly more, economy shouldn't be a part of overtime if it's as short as MR3 (full buys only). Bo1 is trash, it's obvious and not surprising that it creates more genuine flukes. Bo3 is much better and tournaments that play multiple games at a time on different streams have the right idea imo. I think all major tournaments should have Bo5 finals.
2020-05-18 13:42
#119
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World breezy0 
+1
2020-05-18 16:08
Round time to 1:45 Buy time to 15s Tactical pause 20s
2020-05-18 13:43
#67
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Ukraine volanchick 
Tac should be way longer than freezetime
2020-05-18 14:01
Lez go mr12
2020-05-18 13:59
#68
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Ukraine volanchick 
Why people think mr12 means teams win with 12:8 score? Right now we have mr15. Team wins reaching 16.
2020-05-18 14:02
#70
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Switzerland x676 
Pistol rounds are a stupid gamble, game can be -6 rounds easily for you purely based on luck.
2020-05-18 14:09
pistol rounds are skill too though, only random thing about them is weapon inaccuracy which is a major factor in every round in csgo
2020-05-18 14:27
Vão tudo tomar no seus cu.. não vem estragar meu cs não cambada de pau no cu
2020-05-18 14:12
#87
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Brazil Karlogaria 
+1
2020-05-18 14:31
#201
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Brazil hyppnus 
+1
2020-05-19 07:22
#73
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Finland Surnoved 
who the fuck cares about this washed up caster
2020-05-18 14:16
caster is too stong word
2020-05-18 16:11
#160
jks | 
Australia Rene_Gade 
+1 hard to listen to, hard to look at
2020-05-18 18:49
#77
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Lithuania I_eat_kebabs 
not pimp ffs
2020-05-18 14:20
mr12 +1
2020-05-18 14:21
#80
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Brazil PaPum 
Thank you, valorant
2020-05-18 14:22
#81
tiziaN | 
Germany FREIER 
I wait until the discussion has happened in my timeline. You guys must be all on a different one. There could be good arguments for MR12 and MR15. I am not sure at this point.
2020-05-18 14:23
lol +1
2020-05-18 14:26
games are too long, usually my teammates in mm will start throwing after 8-10 rounds because their attention span is short. so shorter games for casual play (pugs) would be better but at high level i dont think having less rounds would be good considering how random this game is, teams need to be able to recover if they get bad rng in 1 round and lose economic momentum
2020-05-18 14:26
#89
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China asdinho 
report pimp
2020-05-18 14:36
So, it seems some people want a change, others don't. I'm not an HLTV user for too long but I've been around long enough ( about 1.3 first time I played CS, yeah, 'ok boomer' :( ). I feel that if you change something it should be compensated. If you feel matches should go to mr12 instead of mr15 then bo1 will be even more random (like others have said), so a reasonable compensation would be that bo1's become bo3's and bo3's become bo5's. This way comebacks would still be possible on other maps rather than on the same map right now. On the other hand: if you change to mr12 and at least bo3's then the point of 'shorter games' is kind of... gone? OT could be made more fun, we've been watching 30 rounds already so let us see some cool stuff, for example mr3 with first round a knife round, 2nd round pistol (if you really want to drop them in regulation) and the other rounds following are buyrounds. This way kniferounds (that we now only see to decide sides) are more important ( = more kills = more money in buyrounds ) and it would be a way to #savepistolrounds
2020-05-18 14:45
#187
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Europe Vallon3 
+1 except the knife rounds, I don't think that would be a good addition.
2020-05-18 23:20
wtf no Professeur on the panel? pls tell me this is untrue mens((((
2020-05-18 14:49
pimp should analyze his own behavior first before he does something else
2020-05-18 15:05
+1 KEKW
2020-05-18 16:15
would listen but pimp is on it 🤢🤢🤢🤢
2020-05-18 15:09
#103
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World WestSideDude 
Actually Pimp is a handsome man. I think he did a mistake when he ended his CS:GO pro's career. But he is great as analyst too, probably because of good CS knowledge from his past.
2020-05-18 15:14
Actually Pimp is a handsome man. I think he did a mistake when he ended his CS:GO pro's career. But he is great as analyst too, probably because of good CS knowledge from his past.
2020-05-18 15:33
#106
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Ireland KarLybop 
The first thing that needs to be changed: Start recognising Valorant as a legitimate threat to the future of CS:GO. The entire mentality behind underrating Valorant as a competitive title and direct competitor to CS:GO is shocking. Valorant is a very, very good game and it absolutely has a competitive future, whether CS:GO fanatics want to agree or not.
2020-05-18 15:27
I think valorant will take a share of csgo public but that would be good cause the cenario is too full even here on HLTV there's a lot of kids that play the game but don't actualy like it and now they have option to get the H*ll out and go use powers and ultimates and bazookas and leave counter stike with the players who realy love the game And this will make valve unleash more and more updates if they feel threatned to make the public entairtaned Is true somepeople will lose money with audience and skins but to the avarage player I think things will get better
2020-05-18 15:34
Rejin god
2020-05-18 15:30
#111
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Germany DiegoHu 
Pistolround 1k Roundtime: 1:30 MR15 Rest is good 👍
2020-05-18 15:40
For roundtime 1:30 If they make the smokes 11 or 12 seconds and the molies 5 might just as well work
2020-05-18 23:21
Why doesnt pimp go do analysis for valorant instead?
2020-05-18 16:01
Can we have a discussion on Valorant and what its impact on CSGO and the pro scene will be? Haven't watched any of these episodes yet but would definitely watch one on this topic.
2020-05-18 16:21
That was a topic of the last episode, which featured pronax: youtube.com/watch?v=7D5CrefWkoM&feature=..
2020-05-18 16:41
Many thanks - will try to have a watch.
2020-05-18 16:48
Problem is Valve created this economy to create more close matches because in theory closer match = more entertaining right? Not when its designed to be like that. I'll refer to 1.6, in 1.6 the game was AWP m4 ak, that was the game and they were all kings, the SMG's did not stand a chance against rifles unless the player with the rifle fucked up, close range long range didn't matter. In CSGO SMG's not only are very viable they farm you bulk money, this is the catch up ecomonic mechanic that valve has introduced to create closer games. You want faster games? nerf SMG's and nerf their rewards then you'll have a rifle vs rifle game it will be a battle of skill and team play rather than an economy game, you will much more 16-0's rather than a 16-10 purely based off economy. If the teams are evenly matched well you will have honest more existing close game rather than a manufactured one.
2020-05-18 16:51
I think the current SMG and Rifle are kind of balance. SMG are still on disadvantage and getting kills with SMG against rifle is not easy. Extra 300 is not a big deal after all. It also let the team come up with interesting Force-buy strat which make the game a lot more interesting.
2020-05-18 20:57
#135
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Kazakhstan team_k23 
Can we have discussion about source engine 2, it is necessary to CSGO after all?
2020-05-18 16:51
What is MR12? Is it first to reach 12 instead of 16? That sounds stupid
2020-05-18 16:52
the first to reach 13 rounds, 12 rounds per half yes. MR12 is pretty common in other fps games tbh but i dont see it working in csgo because of the unbalanced sides of the maps. Less rounds could be a big advantage for the team who starts on the "easier" side
2020-05-18 17:12
Yeah and also we would see a lot more stomps and a lot less comebacks. 13-0 would be a lot more common to see than 16-0.
2020-05-18 17:40
Remake Train as it is the worst map in the pool. CT have 80%+ of the territory by default. Rather remove all the walls and just have trains and maybe some observation towers (a bit like the one CT has) to make it interesting.
2020-05-18 17:14
True not only the massive CT advantage but also this map is too old and no one come out with new stuff on this map. Remake and make it interesting again please
2020-05-18 20:54
Will sadly have to skip this one. Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to invite a guy who makes peoples' ears bleed?
2020-05-18 17:52
Thought the same but gladly he didn’t make it in time - Reijin could be interesting to listen to
2020-05-18 23:00
thanks for the info bro, I watched the episode after all because of that :D
2020-05-19 01:14
Of course it's BOT Pimp who thinks that MR12 is a good idea, what a surprise to see bad players complaining once again.
2020-05-18 18:04
#164
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Romania TheFatKid 
(in my opinion) the reason why MR15 is better than MR12 is because the more rounds played the better we can decide who's the better team.
2020-05-18 19:25
#175
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United Kingdom Leftie 
should be good, Rejin is always good to watch too
2020-05-18 20:54
#182
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Europe meneert 
Nice pimp
2020-05-18 23:07
"*Jacob "Pimp" Winneche was originally announced as a guest, but was unable to make the show" arboga probably kidnapped him
2020-05-18 23:09
Is SpunJ High?
2020-05-18 23:15
#189
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Europe Vallon3 
Stopped reading at removing pistol rounds. Just no.
2020-05-18 23:21
What a pussy discussion
2020-05-18 23:44
Finally someone noticed what should be changed long time ago, no more pistol rounds and mr12 sweet.
2020-05-18 23:58
Dont even touch this beauty game, its all i got
2020-05-19 00:14
What about rewarding the CT's for not letting the T's plant? It would help them build up a resilient economy when the T's keep on constantly forcing up and they could have a buffer should they lose a single round.
2020-05-19 01:06
#206
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Brazil Karlogaria 
Nice idea, but that might lead to teams abandoning retake strategies and focusing only in "non-plant" strategies
2020-05-19 13:58
Well they would still get the 3400$ for defusing as they do now while they would be rewarded even higher for not letting the T's plant in the first place.
2020-05-19 14:05
#202
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India lemuig 
skipped the recent news part again
2020-05-19 09:02
SpunJ needs 5 min to ask a simple question and then he does it in a way that nobody understands his question. He should stop to explain all his thoughts, just ask! Or quit your place there. Prof saved again this stream. A coach crying about travel... I mean for what players get 10k+ per months? If you want to stay at home search for another job.
2020-05-19 11:16
rejin was fucken shit, cunt didnt say anything valuable
2020-05-19 15:51
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