adreN comments on Grim's Liquid integration

29/7/2020 - 23:37

The Triumph prospect will be given a majority of his roles from his former team.

In a morning stream on Wednesday, Liquid coach Eric "⁠adreN⁠" Hoag responded to inquiries about the team's impending change to their roster, which will reportedly see veteran Nick "⁠nitr0⁠" Cannella step down to make room for one of North America's most promising prospects, Michael "⁠Grim⁠" Wince.

When asked about what role the 19-year-old would fill on Liquid, adreN mentioned that Grim would "get most of the spots he was already playing", occupying "pretty much the same role he was in on his previous team." He also later went on to say that the team had not clocked in any practice hours with Grim as of yet.

Liquid will keep Grim comfortable as he will retain most of his spots

When asked about a possible clash in spots between Grim and Jonathan "⁠EliGE⁠" Jablonowski, the Liquid coach went on to specify that the two players only overlapped in two spots out of the six maps that the team plays, not making mention of any specifics as to what maps or roles overlapped. In an answer to who would use the AWP, adreN said it would continue to be a shared role, one which has primarily alternated between Jake "⁠Stewie2K⁠" Yip and Keith "⁠NAF⁠" Markovic depending on maps and positions.

Grim being comfortable in his spots may be a crucial factor in Liquid making up for a lacklustre start to 2020. The former Triumph rifler has impressed since the start of the year, averaging a 1.31 rating against the likes of Evil Geniuses, MIBR, and 100 Thieves. He is set to debut for Liquid in their DreamHack Open Summer campaign, set to run from August 8-16.

pog edit: i got #2 somehow 😎

2020-07-29 23:39

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nice move sad for nitr0 though

2020-07-29 23:38

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GRIM POGGERS

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WILL he choke against astralis?

2020-07-30 07:49

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Of course he will, he is in Liquid now.

2020-07-30 17:04

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+1 sad but true

2020-07-31 01:46

i just don't know enough about grim tbh but a move is needed badly for liquid rn

2020-07-29 23:40

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all you need to know is this: - grim is a very respected guy and people like him as much as your regular teddy bear - he seems to be very good guy - his results are crazy, considering the team he had at his disposal - he is really inteligent when it comes to this game and his frag/aim keeps up, he does not hide his stats behind the IGL role, as most of IGLs do. Of course, we still have to see how will he do on TL, but imo, it was an outstanding move

2020-07-29 23:56

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You must be fakeflagging

2020-07-29 23:57

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what? why

brazilians went to grim's twitter after his game against mibr to praise him so, hes not fakeflagging

2020-07-30 00:40

Look at his flair, he’s obviously smart (no sarcasm) Edit: Have a good day!

2020-07-30 03:09

BR actually supported Grim after the whole leaf scenario to show they just didn't like leaf in particular

2020-07-31 15:52

grim seems absolutely fucking insane, looking forward to his debut on liquid

2020-07-30 00:02

Me too. I really liked how Triumph played. It worries me how much resistence he might face from consolidated star players like stew and twistzz, that usually carries bad rep, but I really think this is a good move. Just imagine how good it can be having ELIGE at his dispposal

2020-07-30 00:04

xeppa better

2020-07-30 01:07

doubt

2020-08-08 23:51

Grim is not and never has been an IGL

2020-07-30 00:13

thanks for the correction on that part.

2020-07-30 00:16

Is Grim an IGL?

2020-07-30 00:20

Nevermind, #47, #51

No, #47 fixed it for me. I saw Shake saying something about grim calling the shots and that misled me.

2020-07-30 00:21

2020-07-30 00:24

-daps +nitr0 ez

2020-07-30 08:10

smooya would have been better tbh ;(

2020-07-30 00:05

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Unfortunately covid19 is a thing And name checks out

idk smooya is really good but he wouldn't suit that team imo

2020-07-30 01:48

2020-07-30 02:30

smooya would be a good fit for faze

2020-07-30 06:36

really? the biggest western european ego on a team that already has na's biggest ego and the biggest ego in the balkans. im not sure how well that would go over, plus broky is a very promising talent, if he can stop whiffing the easy shots he could easily be a real t1 awper.

2020-07-30 15:50

you got it right, biggest egos everywhere. only s0mple left to join next year maybe

2020-07-30 18:48

Nice

sht move rip nitr0

Great move.

2020-07-29 23:50

great move, rip nitr0

2020-07-30 00:07

2020-07-30 00:57

-stew

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Why?

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I think Nitr0 is better awp and igl than stewie.

2020-07-29 23:52

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are you braindead?

2020-07-29 23:55

yes you are

2020-07-30 00:03

no he isnt

2020-07-30 14:19

He is 10 times better igl but stew is better with awp. If u think different ur delusional

2020-07-30 14:18

Stewie isn't a dedicated AWPer. Besides, nitr0 wasn't the sole IGL for the last few months. Stewie was already splitting the calling even before they swapped it completely over to him. NAF and Stewie are superior AWPers over nitr0 in my book. Who calls doesn't really matter right now because their coach can call the shots. Stewie still has good stats and he's performing his in-server duties as is evident when watching them playing. nitr0 was the weakest link and if they weren't a superteam before, they certainly are now.

2020-07-30 00:15

+69

2020-07-30 11:48

Lol

this team will be spectacular

Somebody save junior from Triumphs incoming decline

very kewl, ez for Liquid!

Interesting... i still think there will be issues with Elige and Grims roles though

2020-07-29 23:44

I think elige maybe gone dude I hope not but the way everything is happening seems off and I can’t figure out why

2020-07-30 00:42

lul, imagine thinking liquid would get rid of elige

2020-07-30 02:40

I don’t think they will get rid of him I have a feeling he might leave

2020-07-30 02:42

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i highly doubt it, just because some young talent is filling in the same roles as him on 1/3 of the maps?

2020-07-30 03:43

out all the absolute best of the best players to have every touched counter strike, elige is one of the best ones in terms of teamplay and mentality, he has next to no ego like s1mple or niko does, so i guarantee elige will have absolutely NO problem at all with that, and in fact, will probably like it and would like being able to share his knowledge of those spots to the knowledge grim already knows about the same spots to make grim an even better player

2020-07-30 17:30

+1, elige has little to no ego, i never see him not playing for the sake of his team

2020-07-30 18:07

Yeah, I gotta strongly agree. EliGE definitely has no ego and will be able to change up where/how he plays pretty easily for the sake of his team, even if the overlap is a bit bigger than they're letting on. I'm excited to see the synergy between him and grim as far as the team goes :D

2020-07-31 06:22

EliGE is so fucking godlike he can play ANY spots he ever wants/team needs him to play. They should make Grim's roles comfortable for him and EliGE will be God on any spot they need him to play.

2020-07-31 15:39

I can only see that happening if he wanna stick with nitr0. Both of them been the core of liquid for forever.

2020-07-30 04:15

great

very happy for grim

2020-07-29 23:53

-adren +nitr0

the only logical choice besides -adreN +kassad

2020-07-30 13:01

Will NAF be AWPing?

did u read the article?

Apparently not mens sorry lol I am dumb

2020-07-30 01:52

Happens my men

2020-07-30 07:48

Feels bad for nitr0, the most likeable NA player

2020-07-29 23:58

yeah but I'm sure he'll find another good team

he’s got a good chance at going big in streaming if he doesn’t want to spend the rest of his career in tier 2 na, nitr0 is basically na pasha

2020-07-30 01:43

Nobody even comes close to papa. How dare you compare anyone to such a legend.

2020-07-30 03:38

"na pasha" doesnt mean he comes close but he'd the closest in na besides maybe ska but ska is a valorant streamer now so

2020-07-30 04:18

He's thousand miles ahead of pasha on mechanics

2020-07-30 10:32

nice I like this team

adreN is out of the roster next though, lmfao.

0/8, Adren is a great coach and keeps overall moral up, they won’t get rid of one of the best coaches in NA (next to ImaPet)

i would rather get adreN in the analyst seat, dude's a brilliant analyst from what i see, but he's not that good of a person in terms of hyping up the team and just to handle the team whenever something bad unexpectedly happens (don't mind the username, i want him as a analyst deep down in my heart)

2020-07-30 13:05

lol pog, as coach he does sit in that analyze seat as well, He just deserves the title coach more than analyst. Although I doubt it, but imagine if Liquid picks up ImaPet. Where would Adren go? Maybe some top ESEA team with a line up ready to step up to the big leagues. Silly Season Predictions

2020-07-30 14:15

FUCK

I love this change, and I think this will make Liquid TOP 5 team again.

Why destroy another promising tier 2 team. They should of waited for LANS and gave Nitr0 more time. He is a good player and much more handsome than Grim

2020-07-30 00:06

People talk like they know that grim will have same impact, same stats, same everything that he had in Triumph The guy hasnt been on top LANs yet

2020-07-30 00:08

Yep, also these "lets kick our IGL for better aimer" type of scenarios havent looked good in any team.

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ENCE... :DDD

For example :D

2020-07-30 00:17

such a stupid move, after aleksib kick ENCE era ended really

2020-07-30 04:52

stewie is igl since beginning of the year (this team is finished)

I didnt know but I believe you and I agree with you

2020-07-30 00:18

faze :D oh wait...

2020-07-30 02:41

2020-07-30 15:42

lacklustre - pls fix Nice interview tho!

2020-07-30 00:14

huh?

2020-07-30 11:31

lmao I thought it was a typo, didn't know that was an actual word, mb

2020-07-30 12:20

Canadian spelling))

2020-07-30 12:33

yes indeed))

2020-07-30 12:34

english spelling

2020-07-30 21:01

that too yes

2020-08-01 06:18

hello fake adren

Honestly it's time for Elige to take a step up in the team much like Simple has in Na'vi. He doesn't need to be the IGL but he needs to be a leader of sorts and this is a perfect opportunity for him to show that he can do that. I think there are a lot of parralels between those two players just in terms of timing and skill and abrasive personalities and growing into better people. But Elige will be even more important in this new roster then he was in the last. I think he's got it in him for sure and I hope he and Grim can co-exist and thrive.

2020-07-30 00:30

For the moment this sounds great and it sounds like a very sensible way to integrate a younger player. The worry has to be whether they have a good enough IGL once they get back on LAN. If Stewie can't deliver as IGL then they're in a lot of trouble because if they drop Stewie they need a new world class IGL who can at least secondary AWP. Good luck with that!

2020-07-30 00:56

im hyped for grim but people overrate him surely he needed a better team than triumph but dont forget he only played vs t3 na teams and it was online,not even lan so who knows how he will perform against t1 on lan

He played like a god against MIBR though (and yeah as much as we like to mock MIBR on hltv for being dogshit, they are still objectively better than tier 3 na)

2020-07-30 01:30

yea i know he definetely needed a better team anyway

2020-07-30 01:31

2020-07-30 13:44

Sad for nitr0 im not support liquid anymore

Agree with you bro

2020-07-31 10:14

Grim ok

-Stevie +Shakezullah, IGL also edit :Stewie

2020-07-30 04:21

grim is a monster, good pick

2020-07-30 04:28

okayyy

2020-07-30 04:58

"One of North America's most promising prospects" NA top players are like average Europe's 10 lvl faceits, not even FPL 😂😂😂😂👍👍

2020-07-30 08:28

then why aren't europe lvl 10 faceits competing in tourneys against big teams for money?

2020-07-30 10:35

Light joke but reality is when you watch NA seems like nobody knows what is happening in the game including players

2020-07-30 15:15

We spotted the idiot.

2020-07-30 15:13

To valorant

2020-07-30 08:45

at the age of 24 i am starting my esports career where as nitro is retiring at this age.

2020-07-30 09:05

IGN same as your profile name?

2020-07-30 09:29

yes i play for global esports GE tmkcb

2020-07-30 18:01

wtf nitr0 isn't retiring, what are you on? he's just being benched, that's all.

nice

2020-07-30 11:42

stewie is way too emotional for an igl. when things are not going his way on lan the whole team will suffer even more now. not a good move imo to make him igl

2020-07-30 11:57

oh no please, my guy nitr0 :(

2020-07-30 12:02

the only dodgy ass part about all of this is that liquid started to look way more shaky since making stewie igl. they looked much stronger with nitr0 igl. but if this is what the team wants, gl to them

2020-07-30 12:40