Dosia on Gambit's downfall: "Breaking up our roster was a mistake, but the question was whose mistake it was; Zeus could have stayed"

In the second part of Alexey "⁠OverDrive⁠" Birukov's interview with Mihail "⁠Dosia⁠" Stolyarov, the Russian discusses the most notable teams he was a part of both in Counter-Strike 1.6 and CS:GO and the biggest highlights of his career.

In part one of the interview originally conducted in Russian by OverDrive, Dosia spoke about various aspects of his private and professional life and shared some stories from his childhood, as well as a few memories from some of his past teams and tournaments.

Dosia talks career highlights in the second part

In the second part, the focus shifts more towards the Russian's playing career, his biggest achievements in the game and the teams he has played for. The 32-year-old went over how he ended up joining the likes of the earliest CS:GO version of Virtus.pro and how that team stopped NiP's winning streak at 87-0 in 2013, and also went over his time in the Major-winning Gambit team that fell apart after the loss of Danylo "⁠Zeus⁠" Teslenko.

When were you in your best form?

I was in good form during different periods of time. I was in tip-top shape around 2013 and in 2017, for probably around half a year when we won the Major.

How do you maintain motivation to play at the top level?

Why would it disappear? You set the goal of becoming the number one in the world. A victory at a given tournament doesn't really provide you much outside of two to three days of euphoria. A good example is Astralis - they have won all that could be won, yet they haven't lost their level of play as a result. If you have a set goal that you aim to achieve, motivation won't decline.

At what point did you realize that you were a professional player?

When I was first invited to my first Moscow-based organization, I realized that this whole thing wasn't just a mess around. I was needed; someone cared that I play CS.

Tell us about this period.

First, it was a team called CSKA and later one called Aggressive Attack. In CSKA we had a bootcamp that took place in a large sports hall located at the CSKA base. Because the ceilings were really tall, it got quite cold during the winters. We would sleep on mattresses in storage rooms, sometimes we even wore coats when it got really cold. We'd go bathe around twice a week at our friends' place or at a banya.

After both of the teams disbanded, we traveled back to Ufa and I remember that we [OverDrive & Dosia] got in touch and decided to team up for the Russian qualifiers for KODE5. We had a good showing at the tournament, where we ended up losing in the grand final to Virtus.pro. For around six months Fox, Dober, you [OverDrive] and I would invite plus ones to the team and played at various large tournaments based in Moscow. We'd arrive two to three days before the LAN would start to get some practice in, and we'd consistently achieve top four at any given tournament. Some tournaments, WCG for example, we would advance to via qualifiers in our home town of Ufa. Seeing as the competition in our region wasn't fierce, it was sufficient for me, Fox and Dober to call our neighbor and a barman from a local internet café to play to win at events. At some point HEL1 joined our team, who previously played for Virtus.pro. We had WCG Russia ahead of us, and we decided that if we didn't win the event, then we'd disband. We ended up winning WCG and from there on I had a real career in esports. For some time we even made it to top 1 in CIS, and later joined forZe.

What's your fondest memory from those times?

It would have to be my first travels abroad, especially our journey to China for WCG. We took everyone on as equals, and could've even made it to the final had we checked secret on the B site of Nuke in a crucial round.

Dosia recalls his early days as a professional Counter-Strike 1.6 player

Tell us about the MyM-Moscow Five period.

The stretch with MyM was very short, there's nothing much to say there. As for the transition to M5, it was a very important step in my career. We were gaining experience and becoming more professional and responsible. It had an impact on our results, and with every event we grew more and more.

You had an incident with RobbaN, who accused you of monitor ghosting. Tell us about that situation.

We were playing at a tournament taking place in the Kiev Cybersport Arena. It just so happened that they were playing with their backs to us, but no one from the team was paying attention to their monitors, as there were always large crowds watching teams from behind, so it was physically impossible. We won against them really convincingly; perhaps that's why he thought we ghosted.

How did you join Virtus.pro?

You [OverDrive] and I won against NAVI at Techlabs, one of the last CS 1.6 tournaments organized in Kiev. ANGE1 and AdreN came up to me at that event and offered to create our own roster. ANGE1 did all of the negotiating with Virtus.pro, I don't know the specific details.

How were you able to outplay NiP, who had an 87-0 streak?

When you're in good form and you've been playing with the same team for a few consecutive tournaments, but you can't win, it'll happen eventually, even more so if you throw in a bit of luck. We managed to beat them the third time around.

Why did you end up leaving Virtus.pro?

We had poor terms considering we were top three in the world. We asked for better conditions but we were denied, so we started looking for another organization.

Did you have contracts with Virtus.pro?

No, we just signed to abide by a list of internal rules set by the team. A similar list of rules is already part of any contract. It outlines that you have to listen to your coach, make sure to arrive on time, participate at boot camps, and various other behavioral outlines.

Tell us about the transition to Astana Dragons.

We contacted Virtus.pro and told them that we had received a better offer, and that we were prepared to walk, but if Virtus.pro agreed to increase our wages, even if it would be less than what Astana Dragons were offering, we'd stay. We received a firm "no" as an answer, so we ended up transferring. Virtus.pro decided to punish us by banning us from as many tournaments as possible. They gathered a coalition against us, to ensure that similar transfers didn't happen in the future, and sent out the list of rules that we had signed under to everyone in the scene. We traveled to a tournament that had all the top teams participating, and among the teams were NiP, who we had a great relationship with. They told us that a lot of teams and organizations were aligned against us. They asked to see the papers, and after about an hour, NiP said that Virtus.pro had no right to action based on that document and that the truth was on our side. As a result, NiP showed other teams that Virtus.pro were the ones in the wrong, not us.

How did you transfer to HellRaisers?

In all, we were very happy in Astana Dragons. We had great conditions and got on with management well. Neither side wanted to part ways with the other but at a certain point, the financials of the organization took a hit. There weren't any contracts in place, things were agreed upon in a friendly manner, so we were allowed to find a new home. The entire roster ended up transferring to HellRaisers.

What memories do you have of HellRaisers? What do you think worked out and what didn't?

Things were no longer working out in HellRaisers as it just so turned out that everyone lost form as soon as we transferred. I don't have any memories of spectacular victories, I only remember that with every passing tournament we became progressively worse. I don't know what we lacked, perhaps we needed to work harder or smarter.

How did you end up on Gambit?

After the expiry of my contract with HellRaisers I simply left. After a couple of months, AdreN and mou left HellRaisers, and we cooperated in looking for an organization together. We came across Groove, Gambit's CEO, and together we finalized the roster and started playing.

What did the initial version of the roster lack?

We were lacking in skill, although having said that, even in the first iteration of Gambit it was apparent that we were close to the tier-one level.

What happened after the arrival of Zeus?

It was as if our consciousness had shifted. We didn't start playing better, but we all immediately improved from a psychological standpoint. We elevated our mental component to another level.

What were the difficulties you experienced just before the Major?

Our contracts were running out, and we were prepared to re-sign only if our conditions improved. The difficulties arose only from us having to go from one organization to another in hopes to secure our futures. In the end, we agreed on new terms with Gambit and re-signed our contracts with them.

How long did you train for the Major?

For around a week, and I can't say that we really focused on practice, we focused more on individual training.

What happened at the Major? At some point you just started beating everyone you played.

I don't know, it could be because we hadn't over practiced beforehand and we had a lot of energy going into the tournament. There was also a secondary issue with our computers at the bootcamp, where we would have internet and FPS issues, while at the Major we had computers that we felt comfortable using, contrary to other teams. Generally speaking, we had a super relaxed approach, almost as if we had come for holidays. We even rented a car to drive around the local area during the evenings. Having said that, we should also take into account that we spent a whole year at our monitors and the cumulative effect showed.

During the tournament you would message me after every game saying that you would definitely be eliminated after the next match.

In the beginning we didn't even believe we'd make it out of groups. My friends that are into betting would message me asking if they should bet on us. I'd reply to them saying that they should bet against us as we definitely won't be able to win a single match, but it turned out that we didn't lose a single game instead. At some point, even though I was confident in our victory, I continued telling everyone that we'd definitely lose. It became my catchphrase for the tournament.

When did you feel like the team was able to win the Major?

When we won over Astralis. Before that victory I didn't have that feeling at all.

The HE grenade you threw into pit on Inferno — was that improvised or did you prepare that ahead of time?

It was weird that I was alive at all that round, since I was holding pit and that's exactly where the opponents hit us. In that moment my teammates told me I still had an HE, and, fortunately, I was able to come up with the idea and execute it. It was improvised on the spot.

What feelings did you experience when you won the Major?

Euphoria. I didn't want anything, my mind was completely empty, and I only texted my wife that we had won; I didn't respond to anyone else. I realized it all after around a week, when I arrived home and I was watching the demos and replays. We had a running joke in the team that we had completed the game.

Is Zeus a good captain?

Yes. His power lies in that when he says something, it just works out. He can say something you disagree with, but it works. I really can't explain it, we just trusted him and did what he told us to.

Why did the roster eventually crumble?

Everyone in the team, barring Danya [Zeus], didn't see the use in our coach, and we decided to remove him without a compromise. Zeus made it clear that either Kane remained or they both walked. It's possible that in that moment we let the success get to our head, as breaking up our roster was a mistake, but the question was whose mistake it was. Danya also could have stayed, and we had hoped that he would reconsider.

What issues did Gambit experience after his departure?

Simply put, we couldn't find a captain.

Did you ever initiate conversations around the replacement of a team member?

I didn't do that in Gambit, but I once initiated the replacement of markeloff in HellRaisers. I later understood that I shouldn't have done what I did, and I regret that I had done it.

Why did Gambit fall to a level where it was unable to even make it out of a Minor?

It's difficult to answer that question. We were desperately looking for a captain, going through every single possible scenario. Everyone on the team tried calling, but it all went south, and we couldn't halt that decline.

What served as the final blow to the team?

Our contracts were running out and the organization offered for us to re-sign. Some people agreed, some didn't. Hobbit left for HellRaisers, and AdreN joined FaZe. It was a dead end from there.

Why didn't you play for a long time after that?

I was contracted to the organization and no one wanted to buy me out.

How did OneThree contact you?

When I was competing at WESG in China as Team Russia, I was introduced to representatives of the organization and they offered me to play for OneThree.

Was your trip to China financially motivated, or did you want to achieve something with the team?

Of course we wanted to achieve something. As a bare minimum we wanted to make it to the Major. It's the Asian region, and making it to the Major was a very achievable goal, but the whole thing shut down because of the pandemic.

How was Mustang Crew founded? What is your role in the organization?

Currently, I'm just helping our investor. Our plans were quite grandiose, but, again, the pandemic threw a spanner in the works.

Why weren't you able to sign a strong roster?

Good players want good wages. Nowadays, even players that aren't particularly good want high wages, and many think they should be compensated $2,000-3,000 off the bat. For what? If we wanted to put together a roster composed of free agents that were experienced and skilled, it would cost us around $10,000 per month. Even so, it's not guaranteed that the roster would even be able to make it to the Minor via open qualifiers.

Are you still awaiting offers from strong teams, or have you come to terms with the fact that your time is now focused on streaming?

No, I haven't thought about that and I'm not actively trying to get my foot into any organizations. If I receive an offer, I'll consider it. Overall, I'd quite easily say goodbye to streaming if I were invited into a team where I could win tournaments, even if it meant that I'd earn less than if I'd be streaming.

What is your most favourite victory and most bitter loss?

My favourite victory is our series against Astralis at the Major. I was happier with that victory than when we won the actual tournament, I was extremely happy from just playing the match. The most bitter loss was probably at ESWC, when I was on Astana Dragons, and we ended up losing to a cheater named KQLY in the quarter-finals.

Did making it into HLTV's annual top 20 list mean anything to you?

Yes, it gave me a morale boost. It meant that I was doing everything the way it's supposed to be done.

Tell us about the impact of a coach in a team.

There isn't a specific description of what a coach has to do. Every coach has to have a unique approach, totally different from that of other coaches. B1ad3 most resembles a football coach. He would calculate various situations to come to a set result. He thinks through the optimal solution and how the team should have played, and in the event of a loss, he would take all responsibility for it. For him, it was important that the round was to be executed specifically how he envisioned it, in order for him to later be able to assess the mistakes made. Lmbt tried to bring out the strongest sides of his players and build out a style based on the team's innate strengths. For example, those of us that were better at clutch situations wouldn't go for contact plays, instead staying behind and working around trades. If you are able to open, then you should go in first. He was able to do this quite well in mousesports. As for Kane, I can't really say, we didn't really get along. Andy was more analytical and more of a theorist, but he wasn't persistent, he couldn't force his ideas through.

Russia Alexey 'OverDrive' Birukov
Alexey 'OverDrive' Birukov
Age:
34
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.68
Maps played:
127
KPR:
0.46
DPR:
0.73
APR:
0.12
Ukraine Danylo 'Zeus' Teslenko
Danylo 'Zeus' Teslenko
Age:
32
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.92
Maps played:
1400
KPR:
0.63
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.17
Russia Mihail 'Dosia' Stolyarov
Mihail 'Dosia' Stolyarov
Age:
32
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
1410
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.15
wow spicy interview
2020-08-06 22:01
#6
bt0 | 
Brazil ZerongBr
you didnt even have the time to read lmao
2020-08-06 22:03
he just read the headline
2020-08-07 07:16
nt
2020-08-06 22:10
#35
 | 
China HEIDASHUAi
lol
2020-08-06 23:38
#2
jL | 
Estonia pj4
sick stuff
2020-08-06 22:01
"The most bitter loss was probably at ESWC, when I was on Astana Dragons, and we ended up losing to a cheater named KQLY in the quarter-finals." faking cheater
2020-08-07 08:53
Goode Interview. 👍
2020-08-06 22:01
#21
 | 
Brazil sakaaa
+1
2020-08-06 22:35
Best
2020-08-06 22:01
#5
 | 
Europe EnceIsSoBad
sexgod
2020-08-06 22:02
Should have just let Kane coach... *sigh*
2020-08-06 22:03
Zeus should have been professional and parted with kane
2020-08-06 22:32
Kane and Zeus won more than the most pros coach/igl together. You can easily say right behind Zonic/gla1ve it was the best duo in history of csgo.
2020-08-07 08:46
#116
 | 
Kazakhstan toughQz
but only one difference, Zeus were the coach and cap, Kane good only in analysis...
2020-08-07 13:34
that is what you say. But Kanes official role was the coach. So it doesn't matter what you assume cuz it isn't the fact.
2020-08-07 13:35
#125
 | 
Kazakhstan toughQz
yeah, you might be right. I heard this in RU streams when hosts were discussing that issue in Gambit. The were saying that many people were advising Kane to become an analytic. Moreover, some pro players in CIS during their interview mentioned that he is good analytic, but I have never heard that he is decent coach. Some streamers also pointed that he in not the best coach. Kane couldn't be survived without Zeus. They are friends, that's why Zeus was dragged him along from team to team. He was a good cap in CS 1.6
2020-08-07 13:59
#39
 | 
Russia Sur10n
"Should have just let Kane coach" Coach =/= working 80-90% of your time with your buddy Zeus instead of working with WHOLE team. Also i don't understand, why players should learn smokes/mollys lineups without ANY help from coach?
2020-08-07 00:09
#56
 | 
Ukraine FFF111
That worked in the end and they won a major - if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
2020-08-07 02:48
#87
 | 
Russia Sur10n
The question is: does it worked BECAUSE of Kane or it worked EVEN with Kane?
2020-08-07 10:15
#101
 | 
Ukraine FFF111
Zeus has given his inputs many times telling how Kane has been helping him
2020-08-07 10:54
#103
 | 
Russia Sur10n
Yet 4 of gambit players tells otherwise.
2020-08-07 11:09
#122
 | 
Ukraine GluckFM
This aint a good look on Kane, but they could have looked for a compromise, like getting an analyst to help other players with nades and staff. It seems Zeus didnt want a coach strongarming his vision of strategies, rather a friend making suggestions he could use or ignore.
2020-08-07 13:54
#104
 | 
Russia Sur10n
So he might helped Zeus by spending almost whole his time with him and at the same time didn't help Gambit players at all.
2020-08-07 11:10
Just hire another coach then, lmao. Some teams have coach AND analyst (aka second coach). > Also i don't understand, why players should learn smokes/mollys lineups without ANY help from coach? And I don't understand why would coach need to teach that? He can just say something like: "smoke connector", but how exactly you do it is up to you. Professional players should know such things because it's their job. Grow up, kiddo.
2020-08-07 13:26
#119
 | 
Kazakhstan toughQz
yeah, why would coach teach them at all, strategies, smokes, tactics etc.? his job is to drink tea and watch how they play! your "logic" Reality: A good Coach should know everything. A player can focus more on his individual skill instead of finding the way how to "smoke connector". Why would you need a coach if pro players can do everything themselves?
2020-08-07 13:44
I didn't say anything about strategies and tactics, vice versa I think strategies and tactics are things coach should be focused on -- instead of smokes. Reality: coach who knows everything doesn't exist. Smokes is a part of individual skill. I just wonder what else coach "should" teach players? How to shoot, move and place a crosshair? You lazy kids are so hilarious. And I will repeat again: if you're a pro player and want somebody to teach you smokes, wallbangs, boosts, etc, just ask your org to hire analyst aka second coach. Astralis hired psychologist and nobody says it was a coach's job to boost players morale.
2020-08-07 13:56
#126
 | 
Kazakhstan toughQz
"Smokes is a part of individual skill"- to learn them, yes. but waste time searching the way how to smoke?- only when you are free. "I just wonder what else coach "should" teach players? How to shoot, move and place a crosshair?" - why not if he believes it will improve your aim. "And I will repeat again: if you're a pro player and want somebody to teach you smokes, wallbangs, boosts, etc, just ask your org to hire analyst aka second coach" - you are right, but he is still a coach, even if he is 2nd XD TC, stay healthy!
2020-08-07 14:07
washed up xGOD
2020-08-06 22:04
major winner xGOD
2020-08-07 07:13
X GOD <333
2020-08-06 22:09
Oh.nice new interview with bestest player on Earth!!!
2020-08-06 22:10
he removed god markeloff >=(
2020-08-06 22:54
"The most bitter loss was probably at ESWC, when I was on Astana Dragons, and we ended up losing to a cheater named KQLY in the quarter-finals."
2020-08-06 22:11
#154
 | 
Russia sasha1608
So?
2020-08-09 01:50
Dosia king
2020-08-06 22:12
#15
RpK | 
France pol44r
"a cheater named kqly" oh thats salt right here
2020-08-06 22:13
#44
 | 
Slovakia EvErisT
its true
2020-08-07 00:22
#49
EliGE | 
North America Beecs
Flag
2020-08-07 00:42
zeus made big MISTAKE to leave gambit if he stayed he won 2nd major of his Career but friendship was too strong ( kane )
2020-08-06 22:20
#71
 | 
Ukraine XBOCT<3
How can you know that if he stayed he would've won 2nd major? Are you Nostradamus? Even from this interview we learned that their win at the major was more of a fluke, than a result of good training and preparation.
2020-08-07 07:38
#120
 | 
Romania csf
just because they didnt train or prepare that much for the major doesnt mean the win was a fluke, they just played really good on the spot which still makes them deserve the major win
2020-08-07 13:46
It means it was the fluke, thats literally the definition of the word....
2020-08-07 14:59
#150
 | 
Ukraine XBOCT<3
Then how do you call that? How do you expect to do well in a major without hard work and training, considering that you are playing against top teams that are strong and well prepared? What are you going to rely on if it is not luck? Your experience? Experience alone is not enough, you will only be able to do well against lower tier teams. Without good practice, you will simply lack the confidence, which is crucial . Gambit boosted their confidence because they gained momentum, which is again a thing that you cannot control or rely on. Such approach should not work at all and it will never work in the long run, but if it does, at least once, then for sure it has a lot to do with luck.
2020-08-07 18:10
Nice interview
2020-08-06 22:21
"we ended up losing to a cheater named KQLY" XD
2020-08-06 22:21
#155
 | 
Russia sasha1608
Is it supposed to be funny?
2020-08-09 01:52
Great interview
2020-08-06 22:33
> I once initiated the replacement of markeloff in HellRaisers. I later understood that I shouldn't have done what I did, and I regret that I had done it. Woah. I did not expect backstabbing by Dosia
2020-08-06 22:42
+1
2020-08-06 22:53
He removed markeloff? What a little rat
2020-08-06 22:53
#156
 | 
Russia sasha1608
U can name lots of pros as "rats" then
2020-08-09 01:54
How many pros have specifically tried to remove Markeloff?
2020-08-09 15:03
#167
 | 
Russia sasha1608
not many, but what Markeloff is for u? Some kind of god? He obviously was not as good in cs go as in cs 1.6, in cs go he was kinda average player with lots of problems such as drinking alcohol and so on
2020-08-10 13:04
But he wasnt bad, he was a great support and from every account he was a nice guy. Dosia said that it was a mistake, but that doesnt forgive him from removing Markeloff-san UwU
2020-08-10 19:04
#171
 | 
Russia sasha1608
lol it literally does forgive him because he recognised that he was not right. Not many players are recognising their mistakes. Why are u so bit to him?
2020-08-11 15:05
You can't forgive someone who removes Markeloff-chan from their line-up
2020-08-11 21:46
Very sad. I remember these days. Thank you for being part of my childhood, Dosia
2020-08-06 22:56
#27
 | 
Argentina EnvyJ
So he was the one that removed markeloff from HR? I lost all respect I had for him
2020-08-06 23:02
#157
 | 
Russia sasha1608
Lol, Imagine losing respect due to his wish of kicking markeloff at that time. You don't know the reason and why it happened, but u are barking like dog.
2020-08-09 01:55
#158
 | 
Russia sasha1608
And what is Markeloff for u, some kind of god? He was good at 1.6, but at cs go he was really average and had lots of problems with his motivation
2020-08-09 01:56
#28
jdm64 | 
United States ekwi
maybe VP can do -adreN +dosia? if dosia is hungry enough to play again
2020-08-06 23:03
Dosia seems so nice.
2020-08-06 23:08
It's surprising and really welcome to see a long time pro being so candid on everything, even if it doesn't make him look good. I hope he gets the chance to end his career on a high note.
2020-08-06 23:16
+1
2020-08-07 06:46
#31
 | 
Nigeria popuskFN
legend
2020-08-06 23:17
Virtus pro has got to be the the shittiest of orgs. From Mercedes to poor wages. Lol 2020 can't get any worse for VP.
2020-08-06 23:20
#33
 | 
United States ChaosMMA
nobody can play for that long, at least not professionally
2020-08-06 23:23
"and we ended up losing to a cheater named KQLY in the quarter-finals." xaxaaxxaxaxaxa
2020-08-06 23:37
Sorry I see everyone understanding the joke but I cant. Can you tell me what kqly means ?
2020-08-07 10:44
Kqly is a pro player who got vac banned in 2014, its not a joke actually, people are spamming it because dosia is very straight-forward about it :D
2020-08-07 11:27
Oh really. Then its really funny :v Thanks for sharing the info
2020-08-07 14:57
#106
 | 
United States ItsImpact
KQLY was a former pro player for titan (an old team with KennyS and more). He got vac banned for cheating
2020-08-07 11:33
Wow. Dosia so savage hahaha. Thanks for sharing the info
2020-08-07 14:58
#36
cam | 
United States girls
lol@zeus could have stayed zeus at least went on to win cologne afterwards
2020-08-06 23:54
#37
 | 
Russia Sur10n
#GoNinjas Good save
2020-08-06 23:54
After they kicked their igls from both dota and csgo I kind of started hating the org. But after reading this I have new respect for them
2020-08-07 15:00
#38
vberg | 
North America Mang0
Good interview, it was actually interesting unlike 99% of others.
2020-08-07 00:03
these interviews from overdrive with cis players are always like that
2020-08-07 08:55
DOSIA ON GAMBIT'S DOWNFALL: "BREAKING UP OUR ROSTER WAS A MISTAKE, BUT THE QUESTION WAS WHOSE MISTAKE IT WAS; ZEUS COULD HAVE STAYED"
2020-08-07 00:08
based
2020-08-08 15:23
#41
 | 
United States Frotha
Dosia salt
2020-08-07 00:09
#42
 | 
Poland SebL
Honestly I think when you win everything you possibly could win like Astralis it's hard to not lose motivation. It's really sad that the VP roster failed, they could maybe even be a no.1 for sometime if not the problem with the org. I think that all players should be more relaxed during the matches, during the events and everything. Breaking of Gambit was a really weird, and honestly bad situation. I don't know why it's happened. It would be nice to see a legend like Dosia fighting for the biggest tourneys in the world again. I think he still can have a really good team, he deserves that, he is a really bad fragger, but as a leader I think he can be one of the best.
2020-08-07 00:12
"The most bitter loss was probably at ESWC, when I was on Astana Dragons, and we ended up losing to a cheater named KQLY in the quarter-finals." Slay daddy Edit: Why want to kick Kane that badly? Why not just keep him and zeus? Or did zeus just use him as an escape goat to join navi?
2020-08-07 00:17
#50
EliGE | 
North America Beecs
Kane basically only worked with zeus and didnt care about the rest of the team
2020-08-07 00:43
and what is the point?? Zeus worked then with the team. You don't need necessary a coach that works with all. Watch Godsent only thing Devilwalk do is to keep the team motivated and help them work. All the game stuff does Krystal. And Zeus is an IGL who always do both care for team spirit and for ingame stuff. And when Kane helps Zeus to do that then he does his job. I am glad that the 4 players drop down to be nothing cuz it is arrogant to think the coach has to work for you. He has to work that the team works in the best way and when Zeus archive sth Kane had his contribution on that.
2020-08-07 10:57
+100500 This
2020-08-07 15:58
#45
 | 
Germany BIG2020
xgod with the realtalk
2020-08-07 00:26
Yes, """""could"""""
2020-08-07 00:35
#47
 | 
Finland 0lter
zeus stood for his friend respect
2020-08-07 00:35
#159
 | 
Russia sasha1608
Idk, it's debatable, he could have won lots of tournaments with Gambit afterwards. He chose to stay with friend instead of being a real pro
2020-08-09 02:01
zeus was a fucking pussy. after he got kicked by navi he still went back to them when they offered to sign him back. suck a pussy
2020-08-07 00:40
Who wouldn't want to jump from tier 2 to tier 1 team. Gambit will surely fall 1 day and NaVi is much bigger organisation.
2020-08-07 03:41
it's about principles and zeus had none of them
2020-08-09 13:16
#166
 | 
Belarus jugadorJJ
+1
2020-08-09 19:36
Ahaha finally someone who has the guts to call kqly cheater straight!
2020-08-07 00:45
Awesome interview, job well done
2020-08-07 00:54
he is right, gambit was a suprisingly cool, almost perfect rebound relationship for zeus.
2020-08-07 01:07
"We'd go bathe around twice a week" wow gg lol But respect to dosia, legend of csgo
2020-08-07 01:14
Jmmm
2020-08-07 03:17
It's 3 o'clock in the morning, I am browsing HLTV webpage and I have silent mode set on my phone... and then, out of nowhere, my phone starts to yell, because some advertisement pops-up. It even happens when I let HLTV tab opened, and I am doing something completely else on my phone. Do I really need to use adblock?
2020-08-07 03:33
Didn't you literally trying to kick coach after won major? Deserved it.
2020-08-07 03:40
if 4 players wanted to kick the coach there would be a reason
2020-08-07 07:05
Zeus saw no reason. So his choice to leave was also correct
2020-08-07 08:42
Or navi turned into even worse shit after zeus left and wanted him to come back so bad so they offered him more money.
2020-08-07 10:45
Zeus saw no future in 4 shit players. Anyway his choice was right. The 4 players were worng
2020-08-07 10:47
He came back to navi cuz of money. Thats all there is.
2020-08-07 10:48
that is what you assume. Show me the vod where Zeus says that. My assumption that he left cuz of Kane is supported by the facts that Zeus demanded in Navi that Kane is the coach.
2020-08-07 10:49
So do you think Zeus' opinion is more important than opinions of 4 people? I see you are a fanboy
2020-08-07 11:42
Said the guy with the Hobbit flair LuL. Zeus success speaks for him unlike the success of the other 4 players.
2020-08-07 14:10
They won the major because of Hobbit and Adren carry, and it was a fluke win, Zeus did nothing special
2020-08-07 14:35
What have they archived in their carrier except for a fluke win?? Nothing and that shows they are overall bad players.
2020-08-07 14:49
Zeus achieved something in Gambit because of Adren and Hobbit carry, and achieved something in Navi because of s1mple and electronic carry. Very smart player, top3 of csgo for sure xdd
2020-08-07 15:10
In a 5-9 year carrier when you archive one big tournament win you are not really a great player.
2020-08-07 15:50
#161
 | 
Russia sasha1608
Are u silly? How can u call zeus bad if he kept winning lots of tournaments during whole career? U are just silly funboy of hobbit 0/10
2020-08-09 02:05
#123
 | 
Romania csf
As Dosia said the team didnt get along with kane, so if 4 players vote for the removal of him then thats obviously what they should have done, Zeus was just an asshole, I understand that he was a good friend of kane but u dont just leave your team like that just because they want to kick kane... this was also probably a pretext for him to join Na'Vi and earn more money which makes him even more of an asshole...
2020-08-07 13:54
You leave a team like that. Why should you stay when your coworkers sneak like that. They didn't even ask Zeus they kicked him without talking to him. Then Zeus left. Nice team when 4 players bitching around. Sometimes it is a question of your character. You can assume that S1mple or Electronic also not happy about Kane (dunno if it is true) but they wouldn't kick their coach without Zeus permission.
2020-08-07 14:14
#130
 | 
Romania csf
If 4 players are unhappy with their coach and only one isnt then its obvious theres something wrong with the coach... they arent bitching around they are doing what should be done, something better for the team. Its a professional level, u dont do something like this just because its your friend...
2020-08-07 14:21
They didn't speak with Zeus before they kicked Kane. is that a good team?? No. In Zeus position I would also walk away.
2020-08-07 14:50
#141
 | 
Romania csf
how do you know they didnt speak with Zeus before they kicked Kane? Thats seems very unlikely to happen in a pro team
2020-08-07 15:33
It was mentioned in other interviews. Zeus himself said that. They kicked kane. Then Zeus got mad cuz he didn't know that and said if you don't take the kick back he leaves. As Hobbit mentioned in one of his interviews they never believed that Zeus would leave. He threatened Gambit with leave after kane was kicked. Not before.
2020-08-07 15:48
#162
 | 
Russia sasha1608
Buddy u are totally wrong and turns out u are liyer) Zeus never mentioned that kane was supposed to be kicked by 4 players without him. There was big discussion between all 5 players before the major about kick of the Kane. Zeus said "no", while other 4 said "yes". Then tell me what's the problem if 4/5 team had same suggested to kick guy (most of the team)? Why would zeus be a some kind of god? Moreover, Boombl4, s1mple, flamie didnt want to have Kane as a coach afterwards - why?) Just think about it
2020-08-09 02:10
s1mple was praising kane in almost all interviews tho
2020-08-07 15:03
#142
 | 
Romania csf
s1mple could simlpy have gotten along with kane, maybe those 4 players didnt. Its totally fine people have different opinionns
2020-08-07 15:35
2020-08-07 13:19
That was clearly the mistake by those 4 of you who pushed Kane to leave and no other way around.
2020-08-07 05:45
bro if 4 players wanted to cick the coach there would be a reason... zeus is just his boyfriend
2020-08-07 07:06
The reason is they are stupid. Cuz Zeus made it all possible and he worked good with kane. The igl carry the team success and when he says he need kane then it has to be this way
2020-08-07 08:41
4 vs 1... there is a better chance that the stupid is zeus. Check hobbit and AdreN interviews and what kane was doing to help them... nothing ofc
2020-08-07 08:45
nope. Zeus is IGL he has to decide with what coach he can work. Not 4 no names that think they are so amazing. Zeus proved them wrong with Navi tournament wins.
2020-08-07 09:04
Yet he didnt win any major while playing in navi. And he had better players in navi to work with.
2020-08-07 10:47
And? he won ESL cologne another big tournament sth he wouldn't win with gambit.
2020-08-07 10:48
Major is a major. He didnt win it and ended his career in navi cuz they were aiming for major. He became washed up and thats it.
2020-08-07 10:49
4 Majors and never won an ESL One that is all that people will think about the lineup. He won his major time to collect other titles. other titles show that you aren't a fluke major player.
2020-08-07 10:51
2020-08-07 13:19
#124
 | 
Romania csf
As Dosia said the team didnt get along with kane, so if 4 players vote for the removal of him then thats obviously what they should have done, Zeus was just an asshole, I understand that he was a good friend of kane but u dont just leave your team like that just because they want to kick kane... this was also probably a pretext for him to join Na'Vi and earn more money which makes him even more of an asshole...
2020-08-07 13:56
Wrong Claim dude. They have just won the fucking major! If I were them I was like ok, "We all dont know what TF Kane is doing here and we knew it before, but we JUST WON THE FUCKING MAJOR! Lets see how it goes????? Why not? We can kick him whenewer we wish basically. So thats why they are idiots do to so. They just didnt give any chance to themselves.
2020-08-09 17:13
''Everyone in the team, barring Danya [Zeus], didn't see the use in our coach, and we decided to remove him without a compromise'' i still don't get it , even if you hate coach, why replace they guy who is friend of your igl and with him u just won a major same level retardation as stanislaw leaving optic in 2017 when they were second best team after astralul
2020-08-07 06:43
what you mean "even if you hate", they didnt hate him, they "didnt see the use in the coach"
2020-08-07 07:18
Zeus saw it and his opinion matters. At least Navi and the team understood that.
2020-08-07 08:39
2020-08-07 13:19
#67
 | 
United States xcalibot
tbh i wonder why 4 of them want to kick kane? like is kane a bad coach ?
2020-08-07 07:13
I heard alot of bad comments about him even when he was in NaVi.
2020-08-07 07:27
#72
NiKo | 
Russia w3ll
Kane is a charlatan brought by his friend Zeus, Kane was an absolutely useless person in team who just sat on paycheck and all players in gambit and Navi understood this. All he can do is drink beer, tell unfunny jokes, and say obvious things about the game. Without Zeus he is nobody in cs
2020-08-07 08:15
Maybe Zeus need him. Anyone thought that? And why kick coach when Zeus made all the hard work for the team?
2020-08-07 08:34
Lmao, hobbit adren and mou carried that team so hard with their individual skill
2020-08-07 10:50
so hard individual skill that they are literally nothing before Zeus and after Zeus,
2020-08-07 10:52
Yes, as a coach for the team and other players he was useless which was said many times by many playears, he was not someone players could reach out to for advise like they wouldif he was zonic, players knew that kane knows less than them game wise, so they felt left out at times especially during hard times when u wanted to have a trong mentality coach behind your back to support you when you r not feeling well after a loss or what not or have a question which u r sure the coach would give a pro answer to, so kane was not that person for 4 of those players, he was just a good friend of zeus and was helping zeus mainly to make zeus s life easier which is also importnat of course, dont get me wrong, but u cant just be selfish and make your captain happy, sacrifice the rest for the remaining 4 playears, there have to be compromises, everyone needs to be happy for the team to work in the long run, there needs to be a healthy mentality, thats how u become strong and not a one time big event win team.
2020-08-07 13:16
Why do you force the kick of your coach when Zeus made clear that he only works with him?? Zeus was the igl the guy that need to work the most with the coach, so he should have the last word. You have to be real arrogant to ignore that fact. But karma made it's way.
2020-08-07 08:38
Thats a selfish mentality u have which is similar to zeus s mentality when he made that call and forgot that its not just about him and the coach, there are 5 actual players, its a team, and they wanted to be heard and taughed by someone with knowlege, yet dosia clearly said they saw no use in the coach, more than that, its not mentioned here, but was already brought up by other playears that kane was not someone playears could reach out to, he was more of an introvert in his own world and would only talk to zeus, playears didnt see him as a strong mentality with great knowlege of the game person that they felt confident talking to when they needed advice, so when u have 5 players who feel left out and feel no support from the coach like other teams do then their team decision becomes understandable in the end. Yes u can make a case that since they started winning together with kane why break the team apart and they should have continued but chances are it wouldnt have worked in the long run and it would still fall apart eventually cause if someone s not happy, in that case, only zeus was happy, then the team wouldnt have gone far in the long run due to conflicts, misunderstandings, not happines etc, plus some sources were saying that zeus already had an eye on joining navi behind the scenes and that contributed to him leaving gambit and having kane mentioned in his decision was somewhat a good excuse trick to leave gambit, but that was not officially backed up anyhow, but more of what close sources to zeus were saying, so ya, overall its a team game, so, whether or not zeus left, gambit were meant to not live long with kane and 4 unhappy players on the same roster.
2020-08-07 13:08
It wasn't an excuse cuz Zeus said to Navi he would only join with Kane.
2020-08-07 13:32
Liked the fact he gave proper recognition on Zeus leadership being crucial to thier success. Also very honest, no bullshit interview. Good job on both partiets.
2020-08-07 08:45
F-ing Kukly. Poor Andy. God Dosia.
2020-08-07 09:15
A great player with a major, totally deserved
2020-08-07 09:58
X God
2020-08-07 10:13
Dosia confirming kane to be shit. Thaanks😂😂👌
2020-08-07 10:31
GOAT Dosia 1 major S1mple 0 major KEK
2020-08-07 10:51
Im surprised there were no questions about ANGE1s role on vp hr and dragons teams that dosia played with him in, would be cool to hear dosia talk bout him as an igl, but good read anyway
2020-08-07 12:48
#118
 | 
Portugal dracø
"The most bitter loss was probably at ESWC, when I was on Astana Dragons, and we ended up losing to a cheater named KQLY in the quarter-finals." feelsbadman
2020-08-07 13:42
OverDrive interviews are always interesting. I didn't know Fox was dosia's brother, they both were amazing in 1.6.
2020-08-07 14:15
but fox is portuguese wtf.
2020-08-07 15:09
#143
 | 
Romania csf
2020-08-07 15:41
looks very much like dosia.
2020-08-07 15:41
#145
 | 
Romania csf
yea
2020-08-07 15:42
#148
Zero | 
Slovakia harek
nice
2020-08-07 15:54
zeus idiot
2020-08-08 16:34
“Everyone in the team, barring Danya [Zeus], didn't see the use in our coach, and we decided to remove him without a compromise. Zeus made it clear that either Kane remained or they both walked. It's possible that in that moment we let the success get to our head, as breaking up our roster was a mistake, but the question was whose mistake it was. Danya also could have stayed, and we had hoped that he would reconsider.“ Actually everyone in org except of him are idiots
2020-08-11 00:57
Would zeus been fine with Undertaker?. If u cant have kane u could have tried him instead.
2020-08-08 18:50
Lol, car washer’s analytics kek
2020-08-11 00:53
Login or register to add your comment to the discussion.