mousesports bench woxic - Report

Özgür "⁠woxic⁠" Eker has been placed on mousesports' bench, according to a report from 1pv.fr.

The Turkish AWPer has reportedly been placed on the bench as a result of a poor attitude over the course of the past few months, during which mousesports' performance took a massive hit as the team dropped from fourth to fourteenth place in the ranking.

woxic's spot in the starting lineup is supposedly set to be filled by Aurimas "⁠Bymas⁠" Pipiras, who was announced as the team's sixth "developmental" player at the beginning of the new season after his departure from a two-month trial stint with FaZe.

woxic will be replaced by Bymas in mousesports' active roster

Meanwhile, AWPing duties will transfer to Chris "⁠chrisJ⁠" de Jong, which could come as a breath of fresh air to the Dutchman after his individual form deteriorated since the scene moved online, dropping to a 0.87 average rating after IEM Katowice.

This move will mark the first change to mousesports' active lineup in nearly a year and a half, since the European side underwent a core overhaul with the signing of Finn "⁠karrigan⁠" Andersen, David "⁠frozen⁠" Čerňanský, and woxic in early 2019. The squad went on to reach their peak No. 2 ranking in December, where they stayed for three months on the back of a dream run worth four titles and one runner-up finish at tournaments such as ESL Pro League Season 10 Finals and ICE Challenge.

However, they've hit a snag ever since they placed second at ESL Pro League Season 11, the first online event hosted after the pandemic struck, getting eliminated early in the last five tournaments barring the Gamers Without Borders charity event.

With woxic placed on the bench and Bymas in the active roster, mousesports will be:

Netherlands Chris "⁠chrisJ⁠" de Jong
Estonia Robin "⁠ropz⁠" Kool
Denmark Finn "⁠karrigan⁠" Andersen
Slovakia David "⁠frozen⁠" Čerňanský
Lithuania Aurimas "⁠Bymas⁠" Pipiras

Denmark Allan "⁠Rejin⁠" Petersen (coach)

Turkey Özgür "⁠woxic⁠" Eker (benched)

Lithuania Aurimas 'Bymas' Pipiras
Aurimas 'Bymas' Pipiras
Age:
17
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.96
Maps played:
152
KPR:
0.63
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.12
Estonia Robin 'ropz' Kool
Robin 'ropz' Kool
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.11
Maps played:
890
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.62
APR:
0.11
Slovakia David 'frozen' Čerňanský
David 'frozen' Čerňanský
Age:
18
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.13
Maps played:
969
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.13
Netherlands Chris 'chrisJ' de Jong
Chris 'chrisJ' de Jong
Age:
30
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
1702
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.11
Denmark Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
Age:
30
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.92
Maps played:
1779
KPR:
0.63
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.13
Denmark Allan 'Rejin' Petersen
Allan 'Rejin' Petersen
Age:
33
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.80
Maps played:
39
KPR:
0.59
DPR:
0.78
APR:
0.14
Turkey Özgür 'woxic' Eker
Özgür 'woxic' Eker
Age:
22
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.13
Maps played:
904
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.62
APR:
0.11
#2
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Peru SportMode
WTF
2020-08-22 23:08
49 replies
#9
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Peru SportMode
FUCK
2020-08-22 23:09
31 replies
#151
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Peru TheJuan
nt
2020-08-22 23:17
30 replies
wtf why not chrisj.but woxic??? Wtffffff
2020-08-22 23:28
28 replies
#249
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Peru TheJuan
Because Mouz is ChrisJ and ChrisJ is Mouz
2020-08-22 23:28
24 replies
#258
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Peru Rhenie
Men you made into xantares stream wtf))
2020-08-22 23:29
5 replies
#266
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Peru TheJuan
wtf?? proofs????
2020-08-22 23:30
3 replies
#272
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Peru Rhenie
He was reading the news article and scrolled down for a brief second to check some comments.
2020-08-22 23:32
2 replies
#288
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Peru TheJuan
very nice
2020-08-22 23:34
1 reply
ahaha back to slavery?
2020-08-23 16:58
#266??? How come?
2020-08-22 23:31
No its not ...
2020-08-22 23:30
14 replies
#270
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Peru TheJuan
He is and try not to bait too much in news threads pls
2020-08-22 23:31
13 replies
no he is not Krisjay is the problem woxic >>>
2020-08-22 23:33
12 replies
#291
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Peru TheJuan
Then how come he hasnt been kicked yet
2020-08-22 23:34
2 replies
Ask mouz
2020-08-22 23:36
1 reply
#297
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Peru TheJuan
Ok I will
2020-08-22 23:37
ChrisJ is mouz like the pasha & co were VP
2020-08-23 00:02
1 reply
#981
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Finland Pegull
Just like Zeus was NaVi?
2020-08-24 10:36
#683
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Czech Republic JameS_19
You are like FaZe fans. Olof was performing bad, because he was playing more supportive role, and FaZe fans: kick him. Now is Olof on the break, and Rain is performing bad. FaZe fans: -rain Players that are playing more supportive role will not be bets fragers in the team, but Woxic is not playing supportive role, he is primary AWPer, and from primary AWPer you want more then 2 kills...
2020-08-23 09:21
6 replies
#716
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Slovakia Fortal
Hi, just a friendly reminder that you accidentally set your favorite player as NiKo, instead of someone from SINNERS. Take care.
2020-08-23 10:33
1 reply
Pog
2020-08-23 13:22
Flair does not checks out
2020-08-23 16:42
2 replies
Tbh a faze fan can talk about faze fans
2020-08-24 18:41
1 reply
It is difficult to see faze fans comment something about faze fans tbf
2020-08-25 12:25
MIBR fans were the same with TACO and them Boltz and now TACO again. Nothing new, just typical narrow minded emotional fan reaction to bad results. 10 out of 10 times they will blame the bottom fragger.
2020-08-25 16:33
Yes mouz = chrisJ
2020-08-23 05:46
yes, he is the franchise
2020-08-23 11:37
Because mouz is chrisj and chrisj is bot
2020-08-23 12:02
#736
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Serbia d1ckson
Woxic was probably toxic
2020-08-23 11:21
cuz ChrisJ is awper Pog
2020-08-23 12:58
Poor attitude is not the same as poor preformance
2020-08-23 20:03
xaxxaxaxaxaxxa))
2020-08-23 14:17
WHATTTTTTT CHRISJ IS BANGING THE CEO? ONLY REASON POSSIBLE
2020-08-22 23:31
15 replies
Agreed
2020-08-23 04:19
Chrisj is very smart player.
2020-08-23 06:03
2 replies
chrisj is very smart person overall
2020-08-23 18:28
True. +1
2020-08-24 16:54
LOL BRO!!!! woxic means toxic
2020-08-23 08:59
8 replies
Toxic your mom
2020-08-23 21:49
7 replies
Hey Kid, What do you think your are? ma a loe lay lee sakar lar pyaw dar lar? ar ma chaung nel naw ko may ko loe. kyeboard warrior lar ma lote nel. apyin mhr del pyaw ma lar?
2020-08-25 17:14
6 replies
call me 09787229648 u mother fucker i will rape u so hard
2020-08-25 19:39
min amay phar thal ma ae lo pal tin pay lar phay loe ma tar !! min amay sapat nger tat loe nay lo lar hann !!! ko may ko loe lay !! min za shi yin phone sat sannn par !! sout khwat ko gell nae ma yite buu so kyite tar pyawww
2020-08-25 19:44
ma aye low min tayy pho tar pyin za shi yin phone sat wait nay tl
2020-08-25 20:09
bro chill aye say sakar pyaw mal lay steam or ph please just friend
2020-08-25 20:15
haha ko niki can't delete but sorry again from here and mistake
2020-08-26 06:52
1 reply
Thats OK Hein Min. Its happen!
2020-08-26 07:03
#688
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Finland SunMutsi
The raiting wasnt the reason, but poor attitude.
2020-08-23 09:32
#769
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Europe Cirros_V2
He is still good
2020-08-23 11:54
Ok
2020-08-26 10:27
#3
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Yugoslavia RiggedShit
nice but maybe they should bench frozen
2020-08-22 23:09
30 replies
#115
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Czech Republic Isator
Total nonsense. From that 5 he is the fourth who should be on the bench. Before him Chris, woxic and karrigan :)
2020-08-22 23:14
9 replies
hes useless because krieg got nerf
2020-08-22 23:15
7 replies
#184
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Czech Republic Isator
If he is useless then what are chris, woxic and karrigan?
2020-08-22 23:20
6 replies
Bestest players))
2020-08-22 23:38
Karrigan is one of the best igl...
2020-08-23 02:17
1 reply
#717
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Slovakia harek
... and he really need a new team to prove it again. ;-)
2020-08-23 10:36
#782
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Andorra BENZ1N3RA
2020-08-23 12:16
2 replies
#798
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Czech Republic Isator
Firstly, I didn't ask you, and secondly, you're not here in politics to answer nonsense. Thank you :)
2020-08-23 12:42
1 reply
#824
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Andorra BENZ1N3RA
Firstly i don’t need you to ask me, secondly, who tf talked about politics? Finally, i wasn’t toxic in my answer like you were, it was obviously a joke. In resume think ur answer twice before answering. Thank you :)
2020-08-23 13:21
flag
2020-08-22 23:58
#162
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Croatia KeZual96
It's because of his poor attitude, it's not performanc
2020-08-22 23:18
16 replies
Toxic attitude towards his teammates?
2020-08-22 23:22
6 replies
#491
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United States JoshDAA
Yes menss
2020-08-23 00:41
5 replies
Woxic-Toxic
2020-08-23 06:04
Not true... Everyone loves woxic. But niko wants him in faze, they offer big money
2020-08-23 06:07
3 replies
#713
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Pakistan hawrU
No he don't
2020-08-23 10:21
I aren't think that.
2020-08-23 18:39
1 reply
+1
2020-08-25 15:31
#689
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Turkey b3rkyock
He's not toxic as you think.Ping problem, remain Turkey and online tournaments negatively affected. I am sure his return will be much more effective. No quitting without getting a major LİQUİD OR FAZE WOXİC GO :)))
2020-08-23 09:33
8 replies
suorce
2020-08-23 13:49
1 reply
#900
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Turkey b3rkyock
this is what ı feel
2020-08-23 17:07
#881
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Europe tweekzter
He's playing too much Microsoft Flight Simulator!
2020-08-23 15:05
Why liquid, he shouldn't go to a T5 NA team lol /s
2020-08-24 18:43
4 replies
#1002
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Turkey b3rkyock
I don't think there's another top team to go
2020-08-24 19:19
3 replies
Well, maybe, but I don't think he'll leave EU scene for Liquid, and Liquid doesn't really need any change rn.
2020-08-24 19:20
2 replies
#1008
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Turkey b3rkyock
Yes true. I just said my own will. Maybe OG,NORTH,FAZE,100T I don't know anymore. I just want to see him on the stage
2020-08-24 23:28
1 reply
I hope so as well
2020-08-25 02:27
nah, first kick chrisj
2020-08-22 23:27
1 reply
They are never going to kick mr mousesports chrisj
2020-08-22 23:58
I think it's a thing they need to decide and they will have a reason why it is woxic
2020-08-23 14:20
#4
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Czech Republic Venckor
RIP best german team :(
2020-08-22 23:09
18 replies
#283
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Czech Republic Venckor
I mean, why did they bench woxic and kept Chrisj? Is there any special role chris has in the team? Because I do not see a point in keeping him and benching woxic...
2020-08-22 23:33
16 replies
If u read the article then u can see that its said: "hes benched cuz of his attitude
2020-08-22 23:49
6 replies
+1 idk why people dont read or they just lack comprehension skills. Smh
2020-08-23 11:58
5 replies
Would you prefer bad attitude or chrisj?.. bad attitude, of course lul
2020-08-23 19:39
4 replies
:D
2020-08-23 21:41
I would definitely prefer chrisj. It's not even a question. Anybody who has played on high level would know how much team environment affects ur gameplay. If somebody keeps whining in ur team, it's of no use coz nobody in the team can play with positive attitude. Toxicity only hinders performance of everyone in the team. But if u r playing with a relatively worse skilled player, u can improve overtime. Astralis has shown that. They dont need s1mple or zywoo. They only need good team environment to build up their team work. And chrisj is not even bad. Lol
2020-08-24 16:07
2 replies
+1!
2020-08-25 21:23
+1
2020-09-03 05:59
#363
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Nepal askyee
can u fucking read? ''The Turkish AWPer has reportedly been placed on the bench as a result of a poor attitude over the course of the past few months'' Probably he was too toxic or sth
2020-08-22 23:54
8 replies
#477
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Romania own420
no its because of the curtain now we wont see woxic vs curtain round 2 :(
2020-08-23 00:34
he s been getting quite arrogant and egoistic since they won shit back in the end of 2019 i think
2020-08-23 01:49
Peoples are not even reading the article. They just wanted to see bench the bottom fragger of the team. They dont understand how player can fit the team with positive attitude. How they support the team. Just wanted to judge.
2020-08-23 09:05
5 replies
#711
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Czech Republic Venckor
It is quite sad to see player like woxic being benched just because he does not fit the team, they were looking like such a good roster, but I understand that the atmosphere in the team can be more important than his results. Thank you guys for explaining :)
2020-08-23 10:14
3 replies
Thank you for being agreed with me, bro. Woxic is really skilled wise player but the things are he cannot control is emotion when they lose and he starts destroying the good atmosphere in the team as well which are sad but he will find another home for sure and I hope he will learn form that too. CHEERS!
2020-08-23 11:24
Yeah, I'd agree its a big loss in firepower. On his day, he's unstoppable. But if he's toxic, it can ruin the team's practice and I guess that's ultimately more important. Hope he finds somewhere else that's worth his talent, because he's can light up a server in the right circumstances
2020-08-23 13:36
I like woxic as well but the teams results are horrible. So yeah team atmosphere is important especially when you can't win matches even more so. That match with Mad Lions forced their hand imo.
2020-08-23 15:35
+1
2020-08-23 11:00
#783
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Andorra BENZ1N3RA
2020-08-23 12:17
#6
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Denmark KING_VITO
Now, this is weird!
2020-08-22 23:11
1 reply
Not really. If you actually read the article?
2020-08-23 11:45
LMAO
2020-08-22 23:08
why? :(
2020-08-22 23:08
1 reply
Read??
2020-08-23 12:00
HUH?!?!?
2020-08-22 23:09
#15
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Argentina Riment
WHAT??
2020-08-22 23:09
#16
NiKo | 
Czech Republic Emxer
ROFL bench carriedJ
2020-08-22 23:09
5 replies
+1
2020-08-22 23:24
+1
2020-08-23 00:55
#549
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Brazil wololo10
I can't understand, is like TACO never leaving mibr
2020-08-23 01:35
2 replies
chrisJ IS MOUZ he is the heart and soul of the organization and CAN NOT BE REMOVED BY ANY MORTAL'S POWERS
2020-08-23 01:59
1 reply
#811
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Brazil wololo10
We need to bring back Zeus from the underworld to kick him then
2020-08-23 13:07
wtfmen(((
2020-08-22 23:09
??????????? 0iq play by mouse
2020-08-22 23:09
6 replies
maybe read the actual reason : "poor attitude over the course of the past few months"
2020-08-22 23:11
4 replies
I don't blame him when the team isn't even trying in the online period
2020-08-22 23:14
#113
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United Kingdom alcazar4
"during which mousesports' performance took a massive hit" because of chrisj
2020-08-22 23:14
i think he tilted both himself and the team
2020-08-22 23:16
1 reply
Exactly +1
2020-08-23 12:00
0 iq movement from mouz
2020-08-22 23:17
hehe
2020-08-22 23:09
#20
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Czech Republic cortan
???????? Reply needs to have actual content
2020-08-22 23:09
1 reply
#784
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Andorra BENZ1N3RA
2020-08-23 12:17
what
2020-08-22 23:09
#22
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Canada gatssbyy
why
2020-08-22 23:09
1 reply
They want to lose maybe we cant know it. Go on with botJ and bench w0xic.....
2020-08-22 23:39
LOL, expected frozen or chrisj.. Got w0xic wtfff
2020-08-22 23:09
3 replies
Sure bit unexpected but "god w0xic"? He has been mediocre at best
2020-08-22 23:11
2 replies
ChrisJ way worse.
2020-08-22 23:22
He says "Got", not "god"
2020-08-23 01:24
#24
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Qatar olaolakaka
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
2020-08-22 23:09
#25
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Turkey miRRjuaN
fittanjavel is not noob
2020-08-22 23:13
2 replies
READ THE FKIN TEXT TURKISH NOOB
2020-08-22 23:11
1 reply
He forgot to read the article and straight up writes a comment...
2020-08-22 23:15
stupid move
2020-08-22 23:09
43 replies
they didn't bench him bc his shit they bench him bc he is toxic and everybody knows woxic is toxic
2020-08-22 23:13
42 replies
+1
2020-08-22 23:15
#154
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United Kingdom alcazar4
he was "toxic" because the team started to suck, the team sucks because of chrisj.
2020-08-22 23:17
35 replies
yes, but Chris was good before on lan but has dropped since everything became online tho. BUT it dosent matter u cant have a bitch boi cursing and making a fuss bc your team is not 2#. He needs to work on his attitude no matter what.
2020-08-22 23:21
33 replies
#274
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United Kingdom alcazar4
no, if a player doesnt make a fuss about losing, they dont have a good mindset to win. mouz has shown the ability to win, woxic is frustrated because his team (chrisj and frozen primarily) arent performing. should he roll over and accept mediocrity? no, he should be making a fuss and trying to change things in order to win.
2020-08-22 23:32
31 replies
maybe but no team is gonna make roster moves right now that large especially when your roster did really good on lan before lockdown and covid
2020-08-22 23:38
I would have agreed if woxic was a carry in that team with an insane rating.But being bellow average and sometimes even garbage and still being toxic and making a fuss. Not to mention , judging by the fact he was benched , it was probably more than just a fuss.
2020-08-22 23:51
24 replies
i would understand if ropz would've been mad since he carried mouz for so long but woxic??
2020-08-23 00:05
6 replies
Well that's the point I guess.If you carry a dead team you have every right to be mad.But being bellow average and still bitching about results deserve a bench.
2020-08-23 00:07
5 replies
#709
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United Kingdom alcazar4
below average? are you dumb? you cant check ratings just as easily as me yk
2020-08-23 10:12
4 replies
For his standards , 1.06 rating and 1.05 impact rating in 2020 is below average. Not to mention he is an awper , for an awper those stats are criminal.
2020-08-23 10:52
3 replies
#729
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United Kingdom alcazar4
bad team -> bad stats, especially for the awper who is less likely to have a good economy when on the losing team.
2020-08-23 11:06
2 replies
well, we have a good example when bad team means nothing over individual (best player in 2018 with couple of bots in his team)
2020-08-24 14:03
1 reply
#997
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United Kingdom alcazar4
and he wouldve had even better stats if his team won all their matches.
2020-08-24 17:19
you must be kidding me, woxic was carrying the team just as much as ropz did
2020-08-23 03:49
3 replies
That statement would have been true if we still lived in 2019...
2020-08-23 08:47
2 replies
i said was, coz since online era all of mouz except for ropz were playing like shit. i d be just as irritated by the state of things as woxic
2020-08-23 14:53
1 reply
Depends how irritated cuz there is line you can't cross there as well.There are different ways of showing that type of irritation. But as I already said this to a lot of people , we don't know what really happened and will have to wait , I'm pretty sure woxic will explain this either on stream or through a statement.
2020-08-23 14:56
#701
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United Kingdom alcazar4
there are 2 players on mouz with a positive rating. now there is one player on mouz with a positive rating. stupid move.
2020-08-23 10:08
12 replies
I would rather have a promising young talent that will shine under karrigan and won't make a fuss than a toxic player that barely managed a positive rating in 2020.
2020-08-23 10:49
11 replies
#730
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United Kingdom alcazar4
“that will shine under karrigan” like frozen is shining atm?
2020-08-23 11:07
10 replies
Frozen has his moments but is super inconsistant and that is by no means karigans fault.
2020-08-23 11:26
9 replies
#742
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United Kingdom alcazar4
whos fault is it? woxics? the second best player on mouz's fault, thats why they should cut him right? admit it, its a stupid move. mouz is done unless they manage to sign oskar and hes somehow still a god.
2020-08-23 11:28
8 replies
Our debate was around frozen shining under karrigan but being inconsistant.No one mentioned woxic.But untill we know 100% what really happened I will say that , no matter how good of a player you are , if you are toxic and your behaviour is ruining the teams moral , you have to go. Expecialy when you have young players in the team such as frozen who might crumble under that toxicity.
2020-08-23 12:16
7 replies
#785
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United Kingdom alcazar4
the team being shit ruined woxics moral, maybe chrisj and frozen should go for ruining the team.
2020-08-23 12:17
6 replies
Look , this debate is going no where since none off us really knows what happened behind closed doors and how long this toxic behaviour went for. There was a period in 2020 while mouz was still good when frozen performed better then woxic , so going by your logic , woxic could have easily created an unfriendly enviourment which made frozen unhappy thus making him perform bad.
2020-08-23 12:23
5 replies
#792
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United Kingdom alcazar4
you dont even know if woxic was toxic XD, youre just citing internal shit that you have no details or evidence of. if frozen cant deal with a bit of "toxicity" ie emotions when a player loses, he shouldnt be at the top scene. it certainly hasnt affected ropz at all.
2020-08-23 12:26
4 replies
So far tht is the only evidence we have.If he really wasn't toxic than I'm sure he will issue a statement.So we will see.
2020-08-23 13:07
3 replies
We should make this the longest reply thread in history of hltv.
2020-08-23 18:41
2 replies
I've seen longer ones.We got a long way to go for that one.
2020-08-23 18:56
1 reply
Even marathon starts with with the first mile ;)
2020-08-23 19:03
#631
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Reunion caMsTar_^
This is incredibly backwards. There are far more productive ways to communicate issues than having a tantrum and being toxic to your team mates whilst Ingame. It only makes the situation worse.
2020-08-23 05:48
1 reply
#707
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United Kingdom alcazar4
how is it going to make the situation worse? hahaha, only 2 players on mouz were contributing anything to the team, maybe 3 if we count karrigans igling. are chrisj and frozen shitting the bed because woxic was annoyed? if yes, they arent a good fit for the top scene.
2020-08-23 10:11
this might be like top5 most stupid comments in hltv history. gz
2020-08-23 09:25
1 reply
#705
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United Kingdom alcazar4
XD
2020-08-23 10:09
#855
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Denmark Fonder
i dig this and other comments where they go behind the actual action (woxic benched), cause this raise questions instead of pulling a conclusion we cannot know. btw. I'm stunned, that woxic was benched.
2020-08-23 14:12
childish toxicity = kick 100% hater!
2020-08-23 10:38
So in essence onlineJ became lanJ and now can’t perform online.
2020-08-23 00:18
#193
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Indonesia cleostar
+1 expected from kebab attitude
2020-08-22 23:21
4 replies
probably tho Xantares is not toxic
2020-08-22 23:21
2 replies
Ever seen xantares stream? he is so toxic even on fpl xd
2020-08-22 23:27
1 reply
no, I don't tbh I have just seen clips where he tells people that they did a good job but that also highlights from fpl
2020-08-22 23:39
+1
2020-08-23 00:35
lol
2020-08-22 23:09
Wtf. If they want to win, start kicking chrisJ and maybe Karrigan too...
2020-08-22 23:09
11 replies
any team cant win without igl karrigan , see team FaZe
2020-08-22 23:11
7 replies
Yeah Astralis too they didn’t win much after Karrigan left ;)
2020-08-22 23:12
6 replies
kek
2020-08-22 23:14
The difference is astralis replaced karrigan with an igl Faze didnt
2020-08-22 23:27
3 replies
#276
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France Insidium
+111111
2020-08-22 23:33
+1
2020-08-23 09:42
Hey keep your double digit IQ to yourself, we don't like your kind around here, we don't think before we type and you shouldn't either Mr. Smarty pants.
2020-08-23 20:49
Astralis core was top tier even before Karrigan was signed, Faze was pretty bad.
2020-08-22 23:40
Karrigan is one of the most important pieces of their roster right now. There aren't any decent IGL's available right now since Lekr0 signed with North and FPX are looking to sign Alex. Removing karrigan would make mouz a lot worse like how Faze got worse after they benched karrigan.
2020-08-23 00:11
2 replies
#520
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Russia win73ry
FunPlus Phoenix aren't even close to sign them, plus it's only ALEX who is negotiating, no four other players. So, mousesports can still try to get ALEX if they want to.
2020-08-23 01:09
1 reply
Alex is a bad move. He'll cry about no vacations and leave the team anyway
2020-08-23 11:12
#30
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Sweden bonisMEN
LUL
2020-08-22 23:09
#31
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Finland Cucumber))
wtf
2020-08-22 23:10
Wtf does poor attitude mean??? Explainnnnnn
2020-08-22 23:10
4 replies
Woxic is toxic
2020-08-22 23:12
1 reply
also botxic
2020-08-22 23:13
probably h8ing on chrisj, karrigan & frozen for not fragging xd
2020-08-22 23:14
1 reply
Nah, probably h8ing on karrigan for being shit IGL.
2020-08-23 03:55
wtf
2020-08-22 23:10
#37
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Russia delwest
hello??
2020-08-22 23:10
oh shit wasn’t expecting that, another Bubzjki situation. i was going to say to +smooya but i don’t think he would help with toxicity
2020-08-22 23:14
4 replies
woxic is toxic
2020-08-22 23:27
3 replies
smooya is far more toxic
2020-08-22 23:33
2 replies
I actually think Smooya might have learned a thing or two by now. This is woxic's first kick.
2020-08-23 01:26
1 reply
People like smooya don't learn he is simply an asshole through and through.
2020-08-23 06:49
#39
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Latvia HiImRenars
rip mens xD godJ still feeding enemies money every round but rip woxic
2020-08-22 23:10
Oof!
2020-08-22 23:10
BRUH MOMENT
2020-08-22 23:10
#42
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Turkey Faresports
WTF
2020-08-22 23:10
LMFAO WORST MOVE POSSIBLE, SHOULD HAVE BENCHED CHRISJ
2020-08-22 23:10
1 reply
Gomenasai but ScoutJ bestest.
2020-08-23 00:34
#44
HS | 
Estonia qoznyyy
uhh
2020-08-22 23:10
lmfao, he isn't even the real problem
2020-08-22 23:10
2 replies
#738
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Austria SplasJ
he is if he is toxic the entire time you play then no wonder the team doesnt perform. its a team effort not a single man effort
2020-08-23 11:25
1 reply
true. but people on HLTV think the only thing that counts is ratings
2020-08-23 11:41
Not because of im turkish, but i think he was stunning :/
2020-08-22 23:10
2 replies
better than chris J
2020-08-22 23:12
Ever since online era started , he went downhill.But judging by what the article said , stats weren't the problem , he was probably toxic and was bringing the moral of the team down thus he was benched.
2020-08-22 23:53
#47
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Ukraine l1tter
lol better to bench chrisj
2020-08-22 23:10
damn bymas to mouz but replace woxic instead of chris wtf Why is chris still in the team
2020-08-22 23:11
3 replies
Bcz crishJ is owner of mouz
2020-08-23 00:29
#706
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Czech Republic daminkon
They benched woxic because of being toxic, not because of performance. Pls read the f-ing article before commenting on it.
2020-08-23 10:09
1 reply
#786
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Andorra BENZ1N3RA
2020-08-23 12:18
smooya is coming :)
2020-08-22 23:10
#51
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Turkey o1cayto
fak
2020-08-22 23:10
Called this less than 8 hours ago LMAO hltv.org/forums/threads/2348130/bymas
2020-08-22 23:11
2 replies
nice, are you a mouz insider?
2020-08-22 23:13
1 reply
Just a frozen cold canadian lmao
2020-08-22 23:14
I have never seen something so stupid in my life??? is ChrisJ controlling the roster because it should be him that should be benched? since they are gunna use Bymas, Chris will awp wtf is that stupidity, have a average awper or one of the best awpers?????
2020-08-22 23:11
8 replies
#178
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Slovakia hhunter73
I think chrisJ is just temporary awp, they will bring in a new awper, (GuardiaN, smooya, ...) and bench chrisJ.
2020-08-22 23:19
If you have a player who is being toxic a lot of the time and spoiling the team chemistry from the start, you'd wanna bench him first..
2020-08-22 23:20
1 reply
#740
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Austria SplasJ
+1
2020-08-23 11:26
#197
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Germany I_car
Woxic underperforming for months already (chrisj too but they always make him play with deagle and stuff)
2020-08-22 23:21
1 reply
exactly like chris has biggest bitch position in this team right now (Now i think he knows how styko felt) and he also does secondary calls, his stats are really bad, but he has very little room to shine, unlike ropz, frozen, and woxic who is awper btw, he should have best rating in that team, i dont get how people still dont understand this... If woxic is being toxic and so shit at the same time (lets face it woxic is trash online) than why the fuck would they bench chrisj who gave his soul to satan for this team?
2020-08-23 13:45
better to have a team that doesnt get tilted 5 times a game with an average player than a toxic fragger that makes other people play worse. see: navi
2020-08-23 01:54
2 replies
dont even think he is that toxic, I mean he said he will give an update for reasons but if that was it surely he can fix it?
2020-08-24 15:27
1 reply
He can but it's like pushing a boulder uphill.
2020-08-25 17:22
best player benched LOLZ
2020-08-22 23:11
5 replies
Lol "best player" lmao Ropz is a fuckton better than woxic
2020-08-23 00:31
3 replies
different role, not comparable
2020-08-23 00:33
2 replies
Yea woxic has it much easier being the awper
2020-08-23 01:43
Yes woxic has the entire team setting up for him and is still worse than ropz who has to anchor alone. Ropz is a monster and woxic a mediocre awper
2020-08-23 08:56
wtf , so inconsistent and not even tier1 awper
2020-08-23 01:00
Probably because he can't travel to bootcamps and has like bad internet? I dunno
2020-08-22 23:11
5 replies
Most likely... But we dont know
2020-08-22 23:14
4 replies
"bad attitude"
2020-08-22 23:15
3 replies
Hard to believe
2020-08-22 23:17
2 replies
its not
2020-08-23 01:02
1 reply
Why tho?
2020-08-23 09:04
BENCHING WOXIC INSTEAD OF ONLINEJ Edit: as a result of a poor attitude over the course of the past few months Woops
2020-08-22 23:12
#59
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Latvia YungPan666
from top 14 to top 50
2020-08-22 23:11
-broky +woxic come ooon niko plz And how u can replace best player with trash tier 3 player bymas ?:)) AHHAHAHA LOL
2020-08-22 23:13
8 replies
not gonna happen
2020-08-22 23:16
2 replies
Anyway bymas is a trash player for tier 1 teams
2020-08-22 23:18
1 reply
too soon to claim something like that. maybe he will get more suitable roles in mouz. he is individually good player. the only problem is that he is too young and doesnt have an experience for t1 team but he surely isnt trash player at all
2020-08-22 23:23
-broky is not gonna happen, he is a solid player I can see them removing kjaerbye/rain to add woxic, and making broky a rifler tho
2020-08-23 00:27
2 replies
totally agreed
2020-08-23 03:53
Good move, woxic is a better AWPer than broky (on LAN) and broky is most impactful as a closer/clutch player, which he does best when he's rifling. I certainly think Kjaerbye deserves a chance but this move makes the most sense role-wise. However, I feel like it would be ill-advised for mousesports to let woxic go. He is probably the player who's been affected the most by the ongoing pandemic. I hope that they realize this and keep him... I prefer FaZe's players, but mousesports has more of a future with karrigan.
2020-08-23 07:08
The whole point of changing players is to improve not get worse.
2020-08-23 01:54
But Ropz is still in the active lineup.
2020-08-24 14:12
Faze is coming pls.
2020-08-22 23:11
1 reply
Hell no
2020-08-23 00:10
who cares... stop cryin
2020-08-22 23:11
#64
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Turkey ZaTaa
Second Best player on the team Got kicked, nice job flukesports
2020-08-22 23:19
10 replies
flag checks out lmao
2020-08-22 23:11
7 replies
#181
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Turkey ZaTaa
Are you retarded or what
2020-08-22 23:19
6 replies
ROPZ / FROZEN > > > > > W OMEGALUL OXIC
2020-08-23 00:11
5 replies
0/8 skinhead
2020-08-23 00:51
Woxic is inconsistent af but Good woxic>>>>>>>frozen Bad woxic<<frozen
2020-08-23 03:04
3 replies
flag checks out
2020-08-23 03:28
2 replies
To be honest, in this online era frozen >>>>woxic because woxic is consistently bad
2020-08-23 03:29
1 reply
#710
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Turkey ShooGTr
lol cmon bruh frozen sucked at online more than woxic or anyone else in the team (yes even chris) he dropped his kda 20to10 in every match
2020-08-23 10:13
he is utter shit and toxic, ez bench
2020-08-22 23:37
second lul. maybe a year ago he was second but now he was 4-5
2020-08-23 01:02
#66
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Brazil ferNaN1
wtffff
2020-08-22 23:11
RIP MOUZ HAHAHAHAHAH
2020-08-22 23:11
1 reply
You're laughing to hide the pain from knowing BIG is headed out of the top 20 :)
2020-08-23 13:07
Woxic best armenian player
2020-08-22 23:11
Money change people?
2020-08-22 23:11
#72
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Argentina nymeros
How on Earth ChrisJ is better than Woxic??
2020-08-22 23:12
2 replies
botxic just played a garbage last match in cologne, plus like the article said.. attitude problems.
2020-08-22 23:16
Nobody said he is better?
2020-08-23 06:53
ChrisJ actually immortal on mouz ahahaha
2020-08-22 23:12
good change
2020-08-22 23:12
Whatttttttt
2020-08-22 23:12
nice :) good job :)
2020-08-22 23:12
WTF
2020-08-22 23:12
lmao.. stpid ass org
2020-08-22 23:12
Stupid move
2020-08-22 23:12
Both unexpected and expected
2020-08-22 23:12
#85
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CIS Arztyy
Finally, overrated as hell
2020-08-22 23:12
Has ChrisJ sucked off the entire Mousesports board? never have i ever seen something as outrageous as that
2020-08-22 23:12
6 replies
Supplying them with the green stuff
2020-08-22 23:37
1 reply
How else man, fucking high as a kite when he plays
2020-08-22 23:51
FaZe is the ultimate proof that kicking a bad player for a good player doesn't work out.Someone needs to take shit positions and chrisj is good for that. We will just wait and see how bymas will bloom cuz he won't be that damn fifth support bitch player.
2020-08-23 00:37
3 replies
but article says chrisj will awp, so who takes bitch role?
2020-08-23 10:38
2 replies
I'm pretty sure karrigan will take the bitch roles and let bymas entry like he wanted to be. Karrigan won't just blindly take players and play them out of position like NiKo , he knows what he is doing.
2020-08-23 10:55
1 reply
Bymas said in his latest stream that he was signed already to org which let him entry like he wanted so that just means Karrigan is going shit spots KEKW
2020-08-23 13:30
+smoooooooooooooooooooooya
2020-08-22 23:12
1 reply
#180
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Germany I_car
Why would you replace toxic with toxic?
2020-08-22 23:19
#89
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North America kekdubbs
Poggers! !!
2020-08-22 23:12
wtf
2020-08-22 23:12
nicesports, not so much nice anymore. "poor" attitude - yeah because he has to carry 2 bots every match, I'd be mad too after 3 months of underperformance.
2020-08-22 23:13
14 replies
woxic went 2-18 something in the last map in cologne. it's not anyone else's fault.
2020-08-22 23:16
13 replies
ropzsports
2020-08-22 23:26
1 reply
i can completely see the logic in why they kept chrisj on the active roster. he's an oldie, a stable guy and someone who'll probably take on shit roles for the team if it's necessary, because he's been there and seen it all. if your teammate has an attitude problem you can take it because of matchmaking and it has no real effect on you, but go to practice everyday with people you know.. it's a different ballpark.
2020-08-22 23:29
why would you even talk about 1 match tho? woxic and ropz are the only ones who actually played good in the past 3 months, they are the only two who averaged above 1 rating frozen, chris and karrigan all average below 1 rating, I can understand where his frustration is coming from
2020-08-22 23:34
10 replies
then have a constructive conversation about it instead of going all kurwa to your teammates.
2020-08-22 23:38
9 replies
I mean you would think they did have such conversations, but take the fact that he's turkish (not trying to generalize, but they tend to have bad temper) and that he had 3 of his teammates underperform for months, him being frustrated is not a reason for him to be kicked.
2020-08-22 23:41
8 replies
we don't know what happened in detail, but since it's a team of 6 people and that's including the coach.. they've reached the solution. sometimes the solution is wrong like in the case of ence, but that was different as they didn't fire aleksib for personality.
2020-08-22 23:43
3 replies
yeah, we might never know I guess only time will tell whether this was the right choice or not
2020-08-22 23:51
2 replies
well they cant take a year to find out like ence did
2020-08-22 23:54
1 reply
yeah I know I agreed with you
2020-08-22 23:58
#743
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Austria SplasJ
of course it is justified to bench him for that. If you are a professional then you also have to act like one and not being a bitch like people in mm
2020-08-23 11:29
3 replies
Do you think that he acted like people in MM? Because I doubt it.
2020-08-23 13:29
2 replies
#875
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Austria SplasJ
Never said he did but he wasn't professional
2020-08-23 14:56
1 reply
We don't know that, no one specified how his attitude was bad
2020-08-23 15:11
Well the team can't get much worse than it already is, can it?
2020-08-22 23:13
WTF?????????????
2020-08-22 23:13
Toxic players should always be benched whatever their skill
2020-08-22 23:13
1 reply
#440
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Poland aleks2805
+1
2020-08-23 00:15
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA NOOOOO FUCKING WAAAYYYYYYY DUDE
2020-08-22 23:13
expected woxic bot
2020-08-22 23:14
Huge surprise, He’s a good player, must be attitude and work ethics not being up to par with the others
2020-08-22 23:14
I thought he was struggling because of everything being online... turns out it was deeper than that. Hope he rebounds though.
2020-08-22 23:14
this can't be real WTF
2020-08-22 23:14
#105
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Germany I_car
Deserved tbh ChrisJ is never going to leave mousesports lol
2020-08-22 23:16
#106
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Sweden wyv0
So when LAN comes back I guess woxic in again
2020-08-22 23:14
#107
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Taiwan zhcwhite
WTF
2020-08-22 23:14
Woxic is Toxic lol
2020-08-22 23:14
oskar time?
2020-08-22 23:14
2 replies
#137
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Germany I_car
ChrisJ time!
2020-08-22 23:16
#262
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Czech Republic Isator
hope so :D
2020-08-22 23:29
Are you guys even Reading? He has bad attitude!
2020-08-22 23:14
Deserved then I guess
2020-08-22 23:15
YES THE OVERRATED PLAYER IS GONE
2020-08-22 23:15
#118
mir | 
Russia ErleN_
Why not chrisJ⁠?
2020-08-22 23:15
cry is free
2020-08-22 23:15
#128
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Lithuania Nowne
and what about Karrigan? Is he performing well?? dont see that...ok, some may say he is IGL has to focus on many other things in game, but he is not shining as he was.
2020-08-22 23:16
3 replies
it's not about performance it's about his attitude lmao dude is grinding FPL all day and is toxic af
2020-08-22 23:17
2 replies
#226
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Lithuania Nowne
Ok, so they benched player who was performin better then others fro atitude.... now team will drop out even from top 20 .... I was watching how mouse was playing the other day.... and from what I saw I would kick out Karrigan.... he looks like done and should take a brake. Wel....l at least I am happy that Bymas geting chance to show him self.
2020-08-22 23:25
1 reply
#362
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United Kingdom rationale
Exactly. karrigan⁠'s calling has been crap recently.
2020-08-22 23:53
I would replace karrigan frozen chrisJ and yes even ropz over woxic.
2020-08-22 23:16
4 replies
dont be delusional, ropz is a god
2020-08-22 23:20
Man at this point you're just sucking off woxic big time jeez Ropz is a far greater player and has absolute monster aim. He's a potential top3 in the near future
2020-08-23 00:36
2 replies
Awper is very important, not many are better than woxic. Ropz is very much a lurker/baiter, low impact.
2020-08-23 09:35
1 reply
> not many are better than woxic oof lmao Now I know you're just a big fanboy sucking woxic off There's dozens of better awper in the current scene
2020-08-23 12:07
KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK>? BYMAS AWP ????
2020-08-22 23:16
4 replies
#144
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Germany I_car
ChrisJ awp again!
2020-08-22 23:16
2 replies
IT COULD WORK TBH BUT ONLY IF BYMAS DOESNT SUCK
2020-08-22 23:22
1 reply
#213
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Germany I_car
#186 and I think bymas will do better than chrisj was doing
2020-08-22 23:23
Meanwhile, AWPing duties will transfer to Chris "⁠chrisJ⁠" de Jong maybe read the article first?
2020-08-22 23:20
Hope Chrisj awp is better than Chrisj rifle kek
2020-08-22 23:16
2 replies
chrisJ has already proven to be a pretty good player on the awp
2020-08-23 11:39
1 reply
yeah, but hasn't been main AWP for like 2 years
2020-08-23 17:31
wtf bench karrinoob
2020-08-22 23:16
Sometimes godxic but most of the times just toxic and botxic, that's what you get turek
2020-08-22 23:16
#138
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Turkey areohotah
mouz out top 20 incoming :D
2020-08-22 23:16
Ez money against mous, lessssss go
2020-08-22 23:16
1 reply
#966
OK | 
Peru Rhenie
XANTARES said on stream that bymas will be really really good and will play 4x better than when he was on FaZe... and honestly it might actually be true especially under karrigan.
2020-08-24 02:20
FINALLY
2020-08-22 23:16
ahahhahaha wtf he was the one of the good player with ropz
2020-08-22 23:16
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA BOTXIC BYEEEEEE IDIOT
2020-08-22 23:17
#148
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Hong Kong RaqRo
Good move, bring ChrisJ his awp back and bench Toxic Woxic
2020-08-22 23:17
Bench the one of the 2 performers of the team, ok i guess. Tho it says poor attitude so idrk
2020-08-22 23:17
WTFFFFF WHY DUDE
2020-08-22 23:17
imagine benching their best player
2020-08-22 23:17
ahahaheaheaheahge
2020-08-22 23:17
botxic benched nice gj mouz
2020-08-22 23:19
1 reply
#530
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Sweden flippig
flag doesnt check out
2020-08-23 01:22
#157
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Denmark dyinbyran
Wtf ? Benching woxic ?
2020-08-22 23:17
Same as mad lions they benched their best player. Yes , woxic is not their best , but is much better than karrigan and chrisj. Awp ? Chris or karrigan?
2020-08-22 23:17
2 replies
#167
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Germany I_car
Chris was awper and still plays 2nd awp and scout
2020-08-22 23:18
1 reply
I dont think bymas can help them. But lets see ... Now even fate can beat them :X
2020-08-22 23:35
REMOVE 2ND BEST PLAYER HUH??????? AND NOT CHRISJ????? MOUSE 0IQ
2020-08-22 23:17
1 reply
stupid decision from mouz
2020-08-22 23:20
so chrisJ back to the awp?
2020-08-22 23:18
3 replies
read the article and you'll know
2020-08-23 11:38
1 reply
yeah i missed it
2020-08-24 04:13
#967
OK | 
Peru Rhenie
yes
2020-08-24 02:22
Its not a suprise they didnt bench chrisj. Chrisj have been in mouse since 2013 and now he can awp again because woxic is benched. Chrisj is mousesports
2020-08-22 23:18
1 reply
mouzJ
2020-08-23 00:17
#165
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Tunisia FellaK
lol. thats sad for Mouz if they do it
2020-08-22 23:18
1 reply
well... they did it
2020-08-23 00:23
#166
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Europe headwick
SECOND BEST PLAYER I GUESS ITS BECAUSE OF THE PING PROBLEMS
2020-08-22 23:18
3 replies
read the fucking article. its because of his attitude. not his performance or anything like that
2020-08-23 11:37
2 replies
#779
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Europe headwick
i just realized after i write this damn man, chill
2020-08-23 12:08
1 reply
i'm just so annoyed by the fact that almost no one reads the articles anymore and just judges from the title, and then places a comment without knowing anything about the situation.
2020-08-23 13:09
Lmao preffered to have chrisJ over woxic... Not really sure if this is the way. Sure woxic is insonsistent, but chrisJ is just... mediocre most times. Although if it is really an attitude issue and woxic was being toxic it makes sense I suppose.
2020-08-22 23:18
2 replies
he is not toxic xd
2020-08-22 23:45
1 reply
xd
2020-08-23 00:49
Now -chrisJ + Smooya maybe <3
2020-08-22 23:18
#170
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Hungary Shiron212
Whaaat?
2020-08-22 23:18
XAXAXAXA TURKISH TOXIC BOT REPLACED BY LITTLE KID
2020-08-22 23:18
people dont say toxic turks for nothing lmao
2020-08-22 23:18
#175
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Turkey MusTRelax
Using washedupJ as an awper instead of woxic
2020-08-22 23:19
#176
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Turkey kutiykara
WTF MANNN
2020-08-22 23:19
finally
2020-08-22 23:19
- syrson + woxic easy major for the best turkish duo
2020-08-22 23:19
2 replies
#968
OK | 
Peru Rhenie
wtf syrson is top 5 awper maybe even player right now...
2020-08-24 02:23
1 reply
it's a bait, mate.
2020-08-24 22:10
WTF
2020-08-22 23:19
XD
2020-08-22 23:20
#188
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Turkey b3rkyock
WTF are you doing guyssss come onnnn!!!
2020-08-22 23:20
WTF BENCH CHRISJ HES 30 YEARS OLD HAS 0,80 RATING
2020-08-22 23:20
4 replies
yes lets bench chris like they did 4 times before. chris always comes back. He isn't the problem
2020-08-23 11:37
3 replies
they have never benched chrisj. he has played for mousesports for 7 years
2020-08-23 13:11
2 replies
yes he got benched multiple times. They just always took him back after a week on the bench.
2020-08-23 14:01
1 reply
#969
OK | 
Peru Rhenie
So he never properly got benched... you just proved his point?
2020-08-24 02:25
LOL no way
2020-08-22 23:20
HAAHAHAHH They really idiots? kick chris XD
2020-08-22 23:21
Honestly they can kick anyone but Ropz
2020-08-22 23:21
3 replies
#215
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Europe Cirros_V2
+1
2020-08-22 23:23
Honestly they SHOULD kick everyone but Ropz** ftfy
2020-08-23 00:56
pretty much
2020-08-23 06:13
Expected, ChrisJ as main awper could be way better
2020-08-22 23:22
Fuck online CS he is biggest lan player with ropz
2020-08-22 23:22
turkish toxic :o
2020-08-22 23:23
Wtfffffffffff
2020-08-22 23:23
#210
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Iraq remind00
Bench karrigan
2020-08-22 23:23
#211
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Europe Cirros_V2
Deserved
2020-08-22 23:23
#212
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Sweden geekaya
Top tier cs is a team game consisting of 5 players and a coach, love w0xics playstyle and feel bad for him, but we do not know what really goes on in the team room. Hope he finds peace and success. <3
2020-08-22 23:23
1 reply
+1 well said
2020-08-22 23:27
sad... no lan no woxic...
2020-08-22 23:23
Mous go top 50 nice
2020-08-22 23:24
1 reply
#735
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Europe AlL1n
You can put kool into team of 4 silvers and that's top 20 team.
2020-08-23 11:18
-chris +smooya Now they have a chance
2020-08-22 23:24
bymas?????? OMEGALUL
2020-08-22 23:24
expected from a kebab they are always toxic
2020-08-22 23:24
3 replies
They're always woxic?
2020-08-22 23:47
2 replies
#767
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Europe AlL1n
Turks, brits and ruskis is Brazilians of EU Cs.
2020-08-23 11:53
1 reply
I get your point and it's fine. Brazilians and argentinians are definitely the most toxics of SA.
2020-08-23 13:40
Could be cool, will be interesting at the very least
2020-08-22 23:24
Bad attitude and turk. Name a better duo.
2020-08-22 23:24
#224
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Turkey Lupus46
wtf
2020-08-22 23:24
#225
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Netherlands Sem0733
Literally my first reaction was: SAY FUCKING WAT NOW.
2020-08-22 23:24
#227
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Japan klim1256
hahaha gg mouz wont win anything
2020-08-22 23:25
1 reply
#971
OK | 
Peru Rhenie
they werent anyways
2020-08-24 02:26
Finally
2020-08-22 23:25
So basically it's -chrisj +bymas, -woxic +chrisj
2020-08-22 23:25
1 reply
nice one haha
2020-08-22 23:28
sad
2020-08-22 23:26
2 replies
not for me. Good news
2020-08-23 00:02
1 reply
congratz then
2020-08-23 00:59
amk
2020-08-22 23:26
1 reply
#972
OK | 
Peru Rhenie
+1
2020-08-24 02:27
Poor attitude? What exactly did he do?
2020-08-22 23:26
1 reply
#973
OK | 
Peru Rhenie
''HE IS BEHIND WTF, WHY NOT HOLDING FLANK ORSPU COCU AMK AMK''
2020-08-24 02:28
and what about the untouchable dog chrisj ? .. he is literally worse and 0 impact
2020-08-22 23:26
2 replies
sometimes it isn't about that. When you have a team you make a decision for the team not for a player. Except you have a player that carries the team through everything then you have to consider.
2020-08-23 00:16
1 reply
true. but HLTV retards dont understand how a team works
2020-08-23 11:36
Haha why? That's racista
2020-08-22 23:27
Kebab's always have big ego's
2020-08-22 23:27
#243
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Netherlands evaNc1
Woxic too old for daycaresports
2020-08-22 23:27
Guys please read it before writing anything, thank u
2020-08-22 23:28
lul
2020-08-22 23:28
wtf
2020-08-22 23:28
2 replies
#678
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Turkey erturkgg
Wtf mens omg
2020-08-23 09:00
1 reply
#974
OK | 
Peru Rhenie
wtf?
2020-08-24 02:29
fucking nice, when -chrisJ and -karrigan
2020-08-22 23:28
#254
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Czech Republic szkk
OSkar
2020-08-22 23:28
@DelusionalTurkishFans
2020-08-22 23:29
insane
2020-08-22 23:29
#263
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Romania own420
why benching woxic instead of chisj hes worse he had 4 kills in a game and still performing poorly bench him and replace him with smooya
2020-08-22 23:30
"as a result of a poor attitude over the course" 21yo man plays this game in a pro team with big salaries + professional psychological help and still manage to cry and to flame other team LMAO. You deserved to be benched if you are fucking infantile boy or psycho who is always mad over nothing
2020-08-22 23:30
would be the worst roster move ever
2020-08-22 23:30
3 replies
its a bad one but envys move to bring legja as active player is by far the worst
2020-08-22 23:34
On par with Aleksib's for sure
2020-08-22 23:45
1 reply
Not at all. ENCE messed up a team that was doing great. Mouz is defunct so regardless of the result it can't be on par with it.
2020-08-23 07:00
kekw
2020-08-22 23:32
yeah, bench your 2nd best player, karrigan's 200iq moves back at it
2020-08-22 23:33
INTeresting
2020-08-22 23:33
why would they bench woxic instead of immediatly kicking botj and fattigan? they must be mentally handicapped
2020-08-22 23:33
1 reply
its about attitude not about performance. Read the fucking article
2020-08-23 11:49
Wow, just wow. Odd move.
2020-08-22 23:34
another shit move
2020-08-22 23:34
#290
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Europe k1otaN
Meanwhile, AWPing duties will transfer to Chris "⁠chrisJ⁠" de Jong, which could come as a breath of fresh air to the Dutchman after his individual form deteriorated since the scene moved online, dropping to a 0.87 average rating after IEM Katowice. 30 yo trash main awp Kick one of the Best awper in 2020 Add Bot bymas This Idiots wanna drop from top 14 to top 40?
2020-08-22 23:35
Gj benching ur 2nd Best player for having actual winner mentality. Reminds me of north benching magisk and konfig for the same reasons - perhaps even ml benching bubzkji
2020-08-22 23:35
1 reply
+1 BEST take so far. "OMG he's got attitude problems within the team" No fucking shit, you've had weedJ since 2013 stealing paychecks.
2020-08-23 01:00
#293
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United States JustBitsy
I knew it when he said he refuses to play fpl anymore a few months back.
2020-08-22 23:35
Omg! Best player in mouz.
2020-08-22 23:36
nahhh so sick decision
2020-08-22 23:37
2 replies
best decision
2020-08-23 00:01
1 reply
i think your username best choise.
2020-08-23 00:02
+ Nato ez top 5
2020-08-22 23:38
Deserved! Bye bye turkey
2020-08-22 23:38
1 reply
+1
2020-08-23 00:01
#309
steel | 
Other ToRu
how chrisJ still in active roster
2020-08-22 23:40
#310
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Brazil pEtIsCo
ez awp for chrisj
2020-08-22 23:40
Although he's slightly poorer at the moment, his level is still quite good and the decision would be linked to various problems concerning his attitude and not his in-game level.
2020-08-22 23:41
Kinda fast
2020-08-22 23:41
anyone will tilt hard if they throw rounds like that. Good grief that he is free from their crap. Godsent, 100T, c9...all need decent AWPERs.
2020-08-22 23:42
sad bro
2020-08-22 23:42
1 reply
not for me
2020-08-23 00:01
WTF
2020-08-22 23:42
Wish woxic the best, great AWPer. Maybe bailing out of this sinking ship isn't that bad for him, unexpected kick
2020-08-22 23:45
#320
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Estonia Eduzera
wtf? rip mouz awpers since 2017, -oskar and now -woxic :((
2020-08-22 23:45
WTF RİP MOUS WOXİC CARRY
2020-08-22 23:45
HR lost him, now tier 99 mouz irrelevant soon
2020-08-22 23:46
#325
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Turkey PhauX
It seems online cs will continue for a long time so woxic has 40 ping and he can't good perform againts 10-15 pings players.So they will try to play with Bymas. Bymas will gain a lot of experience during this time and when the times come -chrisJ +woxic (:
2020-08-22 23:46
2 replies
then they wouldn't say that woxic is toxic...
2020-08-23 00:14
1 reply
#458
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Turkey PhauX
Yeah i saw it but i think "poor attitude" is exaggeration words for this situation. I believe they will fix this issue.
2020-08-23 00:23
Chris out please...
2020-08-22 23:46
rip mouz kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk woxic was the second best player there, losing only to ropz
2020-08-22 23:46
#329
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Bulgaria goshyy
''The Turkish AWPer has reportedly been placed on the bench as a result of a poor attitude over the course of the past few months'' WHAT??
2020-08-22 23:47
wtfffffffffffffffff
2020-08-22 23:47
imagine benching woxic when chrisj is still on the team
2020-08-22 23:47
#334
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Turkey yunus06
interesting
2020-08-22 23:48
#335
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Europe t.o.p
I'd have poor attitude too if I was in mouz
2020-08-22 23:48
7 replies
Was ropz toxic nah
2020-08-22 23:57
6 replies
kick him in the balls he still wouldnt be mad
2020-08-23 00:07
3 replies
LMAOOO
2020-08-23 01:27
1 reply
Well... he didn’t kick him in the balls
2020-08-23 02:51
Just because majority of CS players are insecure skinny betas doesn't mean everyone else should be too.
2020-08-23 01:02
1 reply
truuu
2020-08-23 01:28
if this is true i dont see any hope for this roster frozen is completely dogshit after krieg nerf,went from carry 1.20 rating to being at the same skill level with karrigan karrigan as always shit chrisJ cant play t1 anymore bymas no experience and i dont think he would manage even to be decent from t1.bymas should play in a tier 3 team and be a star here and grind,not add him from fpl to a top team ropz deserve better
2020-08-22 23:49
Noice ChrisJ back to main AWPING rolling back the years lets go :D
2020-08-22 23:49
overrated AND toxic? LOL
2020-08-22 23:49
#342
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Portugal joaosenra
Crisj main awper
2020-08-22 23:50
#346
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Brazil 3nzow
-ChrisJ + 3nzo
2020-08-22 23:50
#347
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Poland Hanse
XDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2020-08-22 23:50
the king and one of best awp players is back THE GODJ !!!
2020-08-22 23:50
+oskar to recycle another of their ex players
2020-08-22 23:53
-spidii +spidii -spidii -styko +styko-styko +Oskar-Oskar +oskar-oskar -chrisj +chrisj-chrisj+ chrisj ... Are they planning to do this again?
2020-08-22 23:51
WOT
2020-08-22 23:52
#355
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United Kingdom rationale
karrigan⁠'s calls recently has been pure crap. On the T side he most often says to an entry fragger go kill and that's it. That's not FaZe, that's not how CSGO is played nowadays. Also, the team comms have also been pure crap recently. In short, karrigan⁠ has to go. Not anyone else.
2020-08-22 23:52
4 replies
Yeah like kicking igl is a good decision. That have never failed
2020-08-23 00:01
#406
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Serbia DjapeZ
I agree. Karrigan is excellent igl, and he had some excellent time in Mouz, but i think that his igling is not working anymore with this team.
2020-08-23 00:05
2 replies
It's because online CS is messing it up. On LANs he makes far more better calls and is more confident.
2020-08-23 00:11
1 reply
#434
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United Kingdom rationale
The whole team looked lost recently. No one knows what to do, it all came crumbling down.
2020-08-23 00:14
RIP mouz.
2020-08-22 23:52
Toxic woxic kekw
2020-08-22 23:53
Don't tell me Chris awp?
2020-08-22 23:53
People need to actually read the article before commenting "omg why bench"
2020-08-22 23:53
2 replies
#368
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Finland Vkims
Why bench?
2020-08-22 23:55
1 reply
Man :(((
2020-08-22 23:56
Totally unexpected
2020-08-22 23:53
wtf
2020-08-22 23:55
mouz so bad hahahahha bye ybe
2020-08-22 23:55
#369
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Israel kuco33
naissss finally. toxic woxic
2020-08-22 23:55
#370
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France AkiwiN
1pvcs Le sang
2020-08-22 23:56
ChrisJ with AWP? YES!
2020-08-22 23:57
#373
NAF | 
Finland Lupuu
LUL
2020-08-22 23:57
#376
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Lithuania Edze
O H MY GOD TF
2020-08-22 23:58
N1 - toxic
2020-08-22 23:59
Hey nobz thats why lanJ is best sniper ever in this game: youtube.com/watch?v=S3hZwQ9WJ4I youtube.com/watch?v=FyUihFePBrs
2020-08-22 23:59
bye bye toxic. Im so happy
2020-08-22 23:59
Dude whatf
2020-08-23 00:00
i do feel chrisj its like denis in old mouz . surviving all roster changes
2020-08-23 00:00
Facts: Karrigan has .81 rating in past 3 months (as of 08.22.20) - lowest of any mouz player. Online or not that is bad - even for an IGL. Opinion: He looks like a bot at times, goes for flashy plays that get him killed sometimes, and actively looks like he is throwing at times.... but you kick woxic. If he was toxic - he deserves a kick.... but so does Karrigan.
2020-08-23 00:00
Really?Woxic best player in mouz after the ropz
2020-08-23 00:04
1 reply
its about attitude not about performance. Read the fucking article
2020-08-23 11:48
OK.
2020-08-23 00:01
#399
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Serbia DjapeZ
HHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA chris is literally not even 2nd best sniper at Mouz. Maybe even Karrigan is better then him with awp.
2020-08-23 00:03
3 replies
I guess they will split it between ChrisJ and Frozen depends on maps. In the past chrisJ did it with Oskar as well on Nuke cuz Oskar couldn't play there well with AWP.
2020-08-23 00:12
2 replies
#457
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Czech Republic forseti12
Ropz has been also picking up awp in the cologne games but hopefully, he won't be awping.
2020-08-23 00:22
#860
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Serbia DjapeZ
I dont think Frozen will use awp at all. Ropz is very good with awp but they need him with rifle. So it will probably get between Chris and Karrigan, at least on ct side.
2020-08-23 14:17
#401
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Netherlands Y0r1ck
This is the dumbest move they could possibly make
2020-08-23 00:04
#403
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Peru AgentLF
Lmao, wtf mouse?
2020-08-23 00:05
wtf
2020-08-23 00:05
what the actual fuck?
2020-08-23 00:05
Sad to see w0xic benched, but mousesports had to change something, because it isn't working. ChrisJ has some good AWPing sometimes. I like how mousesports take young talented players and give them a chance. I wonder when someone will make ropz a nice big fat contract opportunity. Tho I wouldn't want to see ropz in another team
2020-08-23 00:06
1 reply
maybe faze?
2020-08-23 00:07
If woxic rly was toxic towards his team8s then its makes sense.
2020-08-23 00:06
1 reply
he wasnt toxic but most likely babycry and raging
2020-08-23 00:07
#416
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Denmark Jonasnhj
Wtf, just because of Online CS he has been abit toxic and havent played that well. But benching him??
2020-08-23 00:08
Chrisj seems to be the owner :D the only explanation that he's still on the roster
2020-08-23 00:08
6 replies
watch liquipedia he literally survived 50+ roster
2020-08-23 00:10
5 replies
bullshit
2020-08-23 00:17
4 replies
liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Mousesports 31 player changes with woxic 32 ChrisJ survived them all
2020-08-23 00:20
3 replies
poggers
2020-08-23 00:30
How the fuck does this crackhead do it?
2020-08-23 01:03
1 reply
Weed
2020-08-23 01:57
maybe he was too lazy to join the practises or play the game itself? woxic is arrogant and toxic asf but in an official game i dont think he'd have toxic attitude towards his teammates.
2020-08-23 00:09
understandable. When i saw him during Online time he was in turkey and chill his ass off. I guess he became kind of lazy and thought what he archived was good. Then you see a ROPZ that plays his ass off cuz he wanna earn some money. ChrisJ was also bad but you can never say that he didn't try. He is a old dude that will not be a real top player again for tier 1 level.
2020-08-23 00:10
Turk player and character/motivation issues, in the other news sky is blue
2020-08-23 00:10
kick chris and sign smooya
2020-08-23 00:12
1 reply
#861
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Serbia DjapeZ
Smooya is good player, but i dont think he would fit in this Mouz squad. Unless he change his personality a bit
2020-08-23 14:20
expected from turk attitude problems since forever..always screaming and mad
2020-08-23 00:12
Typical bad behavieur by a Turk
2020-08-23 00:13
#431
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Israel FRIsaac
20iq
2020-08-23 00:14
ANANI SEK**** MUSTAFA GET BENCH HAHAH EZY
2020-08-23 00:15
-CRISJ + AcoR
2020-08-23 00:15
Just wait for LAN retardsports
2020-08-23 00:16
2 replies
#567
OK | 
Peru Rhenie
He is not kicked man just benched. He can return if mouz wants him to return....
2020-08-23 01:59
#596
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Turkey Thelard
He didn't benched cuz he is not playing good he benched cuz he is toxic and poor attitude
2020-08-23 03:07
he needs hsp then hes good
2020-08-23 00:18
lmao big rip. Bymas will be as shit here as he was in faze. Hope they can pick up someone like smooya.
2020-08-23 00:19
kicked cuz t0xic
2020-08-23 00:19
No awp team Gj mouz
2020-08-23 00:19
#454
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Sweden 1danne1
Should have benched chrisj instead of woxic.
2020-08-23 00:20
OG Woxic mens))
2020-08-23 00:23
-mou
2020-08-23 00:23
#464
jks | 
Austria Grundz
I'm waiting for a top team to +Dosia, this shit is getting random as fuck.
2020-08-23 00:25
#466
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United States xiquo
LUL
2020-08-23 00:26
expected
2020-08-23 00:27
WTF UNEXPECTED
2020-08-23 00:30
#475
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Russia KEMSN
-w0xic +sh1ro -ChrisJ +Bymas
2020-08-23 00:34
wtf??? Why???
2020-08-23 00:34
yeees chrisJ IQ level 1000 + 1000year play cs :) awp very good for chris!!! MOUZ BACK TOP5 :) woxictoxic:D
2020-08-23 00:34
Ok
2020-08-23 00:36
Finally, mega overrated cuz of some streaky good performances.
2020-08-23 00:36
1 reply
He's a good player but yeah massively overrated.
2020-08-23 00:37
kick chrisJ +smooya fast pls
2020-08-23 00:37
WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF -CRISHJ??????????????????????????
2020-08-23 00:37
Woxic is massively overrated
2020-08-23 00:38
now kick oldj and sign sh1ro Back to top2 ez
2020-08-23 00:40
Nice and deserved
2020-08-23 00:42
-ChrisJ +sh1ro Karrigan Ropz Frozen Bymas Sh1ro
2020-08-23 00:43
CRISHJ 30 YEAR 30 IQ OMEGALUL
2020-08-23 00:45
WTF are you guys joking? Everyone memeing about woxic being retarded - sure. BUT BYMAS JOINING? THAT GUY IS GOLD!!!!!!
2020-08-23 00:45
I don't think Woxic was the issue. Might change my flair if this doesn't change any results for better, just an idiotic move.
2020-08-23 00:48
1 reply
Dude what? Obviously there was some internal shit going on. You have no idea what his attitude to his teammates was. I love when people on HLTV and reddit just spectate the games without hearing comms and say "this guy is skilled, why did they kick/bench him". Well maybe he had a really shit attitude that was contributing very negatively to the team spirit? After all, it is a team game, and having a somewhat good atmosphere is important for people's motivation.
2020-08-23 00:51
10 iq move imagine 30 y.o botj still playing mouz and talent awper going benched? sad story
2020-08-23 00:49
2 replies
its about attitude not about performance. Read the fucking article
2020-08-23 11:45
1 reply
flag fan checks out axaxaxaxa malding d0g
2020-08-23 14:08
Yo les noobs, Idk why everyone he's saying it has to je because of toxicity, obviously it could have played a part but for me the main reason would be a lack of implication in the team (missing practices and scrims, not taking time for his individual skill, not giving ideas during brainstorming... That type of things).
2020-08-23 00:52
1 reply
#573
OK | 
Peru Rhenie
Yo les noob, People seem to think woxic is kicked for some reason which he isnt. Just keeping the bench warm for the time being. Perhaps he was benched to develop as a player and get rid of some bad habits who knows...
2020-08-23 02:07
#506
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Brazil CR0CR3
WTF
2020-08-23 00:56
#509
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Namibia Nachofish
+torzi or xellow inc unless its bymas
2020-08-23 01:00
6 PLAYER ROSTER WAS SCAM THE WHOLE TIME
2020-08-23 01:01
#516
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United Kingdom Leftie
expected tbh, in their match against MAD Lions he was 13-38 lel
2020-08-23 01:03
1 reply
#584
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Turkey DebbSoray
Unlike his 50 frags mates.
2020-08-23 02:40
Each turk in this comment section looks almost the same XDDD Not to offend somebody, just telling the facts
2020-08-23 01:04
1 reply
It's like they beneched their brother lol
2020-08-23 14:03
mousesports karrigan ropz frozen bymas olofmeister
2020-08-23 01:09
lol
2020-08-23 01:10
wtf?????????????
2020-08-23 01:13
"as a result of a poor attitude over the course of the past few months"wait,what? Him being kicked is a surprise but on top of that, the reason just baffles me
2020-08-23 01:17
This was so expected but unexpected.
2020-08-23 01:18
#527
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Poland zJe
Yeah, bench the best mouz player. We already know how ameteur are these mouz management after styko move but this.. Really pathetic. I'm glad that Woxic rescued himself from these bunch of trashes.
2020-08-23 01:19
2 replies
#542
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Turkey PhauX
He didn't leave bro just benched.
2020-08-23 01:28
ropz is the best mouz player
2020-08-23 01:37
Mouz wasting Ropz career
2020-08-23 01:22
Karrigan 0.8 r Chrisj 0.8 r and bench Woxic something s wrong in that org
2020-08-23 01:24
#535
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China Yao_Ming
go chrisJ awp again and maybe mouz finally in top 5
2020-08-23 01:25
#537
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Finland H0rnPub
-rain + woxic
2020-08-23 01:27
1 reply
#733
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Poland Menaheer
I don't get why people want to bench rain. He is stałe and does his job well.
2020-08-23 11:14
#539
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Turkey yunus06
haha -w0xic + erdi he best awper in eu amk
2020-08-23 01:28
rating1.13 god benched. rating0.96 noob in what happened??
2020-08-23 01:28
getting benched by a 16 year old LOOOOOOL
2020-08-23 01:31
1 reply
bymas didn't bench him
2020-08-23 11:45
toxic erdogdan ahahaha
2020-08-23 01:33
#546
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United States GiantDays
everyone point and laugh
2020-08-23 01:34
Holy
2020-08-23 01:34
people? smoya? joke? botsmoja :DDD pls :D stop joking :D
2020-08-23 01:37
WHAT!?
2020-08-23 01:37
Damn
2020-08-23 01:41
#557
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Chile cristiaan
lol?
2020-08-23 01:51
online cs nice
2020-08-23 01:54
woxic would be a better implementation for FaZe than shaky aim.
2020-08-23 01:55
3 replies
no ty we dont want him in FaZe clan
2020-08-23 03:09
2 replies
speak for yourself s0mple fanboy
2020-08-23 04:36
1 reply
s0mple=w0xic
2020-08-23 05:00
WHY WHY CANT YOU BENCH EITHER KARRIGAN OR CHRIS WHY YOUR AWPER?? WTF, FYI woxic can igl also
2020-08-23 01:58
Woxic more like toxic
2020-08-23 01:56
wtf?????????????????????
2020-08-23 02:05
Yet another shitty roster move
2020-08-23 02:05
What? Why don't you bench chrisJ instead
2020-08-23 02:06
3 replies
woxic had poor attitude according to them, makes some sense and could actually work out for them, probably not but who knows
2020-08-23 02:08
2 replies
#583
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Turkey DebbSoray
mouz had no balls to kick chrisJ = poor attitude mouz will disband in 3 months
2020-08-23 02:37
1 reply
flag checks out. Now Mouz ez top 1. toxic was the problem
2020-08-23 03:08
Bench chrisJ ffs and you have a top 5 roaster
2020-08-23 02:09
1 reply
not with most inconsistent awper in history - woxic
2020-08-23 12:29
woxic rating: 1.06 karrigan: 0.80 chrisJ: 0.83 frozen: 0.94 I'd say mouse should bench ropz as well. So they can get the Guinness World Record of lowest rating team or something
2020-08-23 02:09
i thoght they will bench chris
2020-08-23 02:26
wtf?I thought chrisJ is the first who will be benched.
2020-08-23 02:42
are they retarded? well gl in na woxic enjoy the paycheck
2020-08-23 02:51
#593
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Europe t.o.p
Interesting
2020-08-23 02:59
#594
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Europe LordSF95
This is the most stupid thing in 2020 by mouz. Keep chrisbot in the starting 5, he underperformed since the lan ends and you bench woxic? xD nice 1 karrigan
2020-08-23 03:01
Good decision but it won't save Lousysports. You just can't be a tier 1 team with 2 boomers in your roster.
2020-08-23 03:25
finally woxic deserved tiershit teams
2020-08-23 03:34
Woxic? Seruoslee? Woxic over botJ and botiggan? Wow
2020-08-23 03:46
Woxic been playing bad so its expected
2020-08-23 03:47
#608
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Argentina WaSTe_D
This feels very odd to me. I swear i saw in a interview how chrisJ was praising woxic for bringing hype to the team and a good competetive atmosphere, which motivated him to work hard for the team. Switching to an online setup made him more toxic??Is that the case?? I hope they bring more information about why they benched him, coz i really don't understand the reasoning behind this.
2020-08-23 03:51
Wtf Smooya time?
2020-08-23 03:55
finally no more turks all of them toxic
2020-08-23 04:08
1 reply
+1
2020-08-25 01:14
finally smart move
2020-08-23 04:17
I don't think this will do much to improve their performance. I respect chrisJ a lot, but I think it's time for him to step down. Perhaps changing woxic's role or getting another AWPer to relieve some of his AWPing duties would help. I just think that benching woxic isn't a good idea and that if they bench anyone, it should be chrisJ since karrigan is the IGL and was able to be a secondary AWPer in the past.
2020-08-23 04:27
#616
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Philippines J4DEM
I swear, teams that benching and removing players during this online era is a bad idea. They should take sometime until they get back to lan event.
2020-08-23 04:32
I wonder when BIG bench xantares. He is toxic as well
2020-08-23 04:37
1 reply
But he doesn't show his "poor attitude" to his teammate at least lol.
2020-08-23 05:32
toxic woxic. is anyone really surprised? deserved.
2020-08-23 04:40
2 replies
+1
2020-08-23 04:43
+1 what do u expect from a turkish
2020-08-23 05:30
He is literally most inconsistent player in mousesport.... He always rage and tilted. 🤣🤣😂😂😂😹 Deserve a bench 😌😌😌
2020-08-23 04:43
1 reply
Yes!!! F#ck WOXIC TOXIC
2020-08-23 06:11
thats cool and all but you listened to this youtube.com/watch?v=C5RmbY7yJDY
2020-08-23 04:49
ropz seemed to do decently with CT side awp. I hope him and ChrisJ can share it, depending on maps and ct or t sides.
2020-08-23 05:24
People are accusing him of toxicity (which I am not aware of the severity of these claims), but was a disastrous move regardless. From a borderline top15 team to probably like 25th rated team in one move.. No trade, no nothing. Must be a serious issue
2020-08-23 05:54
dumb move tbh
2020-08-23 06:26
1 reply
dumb move to kick toxic player? HAHA
2020-08-23 07:39
Let see if chrisJ become a 4750$ decoy in the game or not xD
2020-08-23 06:37
2 replies
chrisj was destroying top teams back in times while you was pissing in your bed, kid
2020-08-23 12:21
1 reply
He destroys any top team now? He is fucking 29 years old already, don't talk like he is in the best performance pls. There is a reason why in OT 10k chrisJ often not buy gun and save money when mouz in ct of every map.
2020-08-23 15:34
#648
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Brazil Baggione
wtf?
2020-08-23 07:18
"The Turkish AWPer has reportedly been placed on the bench as a result of a poor attitude over the course of the past few months, "if someone watched his stream, he is toxic and curse in turkish. I am not surprised.
2020-08-23 07:24
2 replies
If this is true this is the right call, toxic player ruins moral and cannot really pay attention.
2020-08-23 08:00
1 reply
It's not always, but it look like easy to lose temper, when he lose duels and kill him ridiculously.
2020-08-23 08:10
chrisj remain awper lul, extremely dumb move
2020-08-23 07:39
woxic is toxic
2020-08-23 07:45
#654
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Germany DiegoHu
What about: Woxic isnt able to join the Bootcamp but Maybe bymas can!? That’s why they give EPL a chance with these lineup?! Because for Rio they will have to go back to original lineup if they want to have at least a bit of a chance to qualify?!
2020-08-23 07:48
2 replies
Surely these Turkish guys actually were even born in Germany - there is many Turkish immigrants.
2020-08-23 07:58
Surely these Turkish guys actually were even born in Germany - there is many Turkish immigrants.
2020-08-23 07:58
Now -chrisj +ottond :()
2020-08-23 07:52
Finally they listened to me and kicked that trash
2020-08-23 07:57
deserves it.
2020-08-23 07:59
Finally it happened he has less IQ than kennys in terms of repeeking and pushing
2020-08-23 08:12
Gg moiz. Unlucky decision...
2020-08-23 08:21
They still have BotJ LUL
2020-08-23 08:24
yeah obviously chrisJ sucks mouz balls from past 5 years that's y they wont replace him worst Move ever by an org....so dumb
2020-08-23 08:26
#666
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Japan Inlivino
this thread is showing you that most people in HLTV never read article and just comment when they see the title.
2020-08-23 08:28
Faze?
2020-08-23 08:28
1 reply
lol, no
2020-08-23 09:15
Totally shitty change. Bymas has no potential to be replace woxic wtff? Bench chrisj dude
2020-08-23 08:34
#669
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Hungary saxxo
What a surprise! Toxic player out:D He was the main reason that cause the dismantle os hellraisers...
2020-08-23 08:37
lol stupid mouz management ahahaha
2020-08-23 08:39
Good decision!
2020-08-23 08:51
Tf lol he was clearly their Best player last year
2020-08-23 08:51
5 replies
But poor attitude cant be excused on a team ofc tho i dont see this lineup do well
2020-08-23 08:54
He wasn't better than ropz last year dafuq
2020-08-23 11:36
2 replies
I disagree and their dif is only 0,03
2020-08-23 13:05
1 reply
#796 ropz was way more consistent.
2020-08-23 13:16
wtf? he was most inconsistent player and underperforming in most important matches
2020-08-23 12:31
[Only Premium HLTV users can see this comment] "The Turkish AWPer has reportedly been placed on the bench as a result of a poor attitude over the course of the past few months, "if someone watched his stream, he is toxic and curse in turkish. I am not surprised."
2020-08-23 08:54
0.80 rating botJ still on the team BRUH
2020-08-23 09:08
Rofl remove chris asap. Benching their best player :D Who wouldn't be mad if you have to play with bots for so long?
2020-08-23 09:23
This feels like if EG benched CerQ He hasn't been a major problem in terms of performance Wonder what the real disconnect is
2020-08-23 09:23
1 reply
#958
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Peru Rhenie
I watch woxics streams. He is not the type of guy who can take defeat after defeat after defeat and just say nothing about it. He even said on stream that the way mouz won CAC 2019 was that he was just getting frustrated about traveling all this distance paying for the taxi and practicing hard just to be eliminated. So I think when mouz started to finish 13-16th every tournament and 2 of his teammates became literal bots he probably didnt behave as nice as he normally would. So the point is woxic didt just became toxic for no reason. If he had behaviour issues all this time he probably would have been kicked ages ago.
2020-08-23 23:39
We cant know what is happening inside a team. So benching woxic may has a reason. But I dont see this team having success with ropz, frozen (even if he back to his best form), bottom fragging IGL, unexperienced kid and AWPer who few months ago was used to play with deagle on full-buy rounds to save money for teammates. They need oskar back! Or ottond/acor.
2020-08-23 09:23
mouz is gonna suck deeply i think
2020-08-23 09:34
Now they are done by this move. Kicking woxic a great awper over BOTJ and BOTRIGGAN KEK W LUL. Chris J is litcherelly the biggest BOT in their team
2020-08-23 09:43
2 replies
its about attitude not about performance. Read the fucking article
2020-08-23 11:44
1 reply
#957
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Peru Rhenie
You should waste your time doing literally anything else since the people who actually read the article dont usually comment. I guess you are kinda salty since people are flaming chrisJ for some reason
2020-08-23 23:20
kicking their 2nd best player? what about chrisj karrigan even frozen
2020-08-23 09:59
3 replies
its about attitude not about performance. Read the fucking article
2020-08-23 11:43
2 replies
read your nickname
2020-08-23 13:30
1 reply
Use your brain
2020-08-23 14:02
#695
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Czech Republic ExoG0D
IDIOTS?
2020-08-23 10:00
#697
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Russia Xtinger
LOL, bad idia
2020-08-23 10:02
FINALLY HAHAHAA I'M SO FUCKING HAPPY
2020-08-23 10:03
#699
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Lebanon Dogman69
maybe he benched because wants to leave
2020-08-23 10:04
#700
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Turkey HypnoSia
Im happy about it. Im really not like him he do with first salary big tattoo its showing he is focus money and girlsssss
2020-08-23 10:06
12 replies
Im happy about it. Im really not like him he do with first salary big tattoo its showing he is focus money and girlsssss
2020-08-23 10:49
1 reply
#725
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Turkey HypnoSia
You really verygoodguy thx for reapting after me.
2020-08-23 10:55
He can do wherever he wants with his money. We are in 2020 and people have the freedom to tattoo and fuck girls. He said he is atheist and don't give a fuck, that's why he wants a different passport in the future, to travel safer
2020-08-23 14:02
9 replies
#922
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Turkey HypnoSia
When woxic said im a atheist?
2020-08-23 19:00
8 replies
Can you read english?
2020-08-23 19:00
7 replies
#924
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Turkey HypnoSia
Yes i can read english corona peek.
2020-08-23 19:02
6 replies
Imagine watching the media and point about corona when China is hiding milions of deaths while Italy did the most covid tests since februrary, now any single country is having the situation out of control. worldometers.info/coronavirus/ Turkey just under Italy as cases with 20 milion more population, and considering Turkey is one of those countries that hide stuff it is possible that you have even more infected people. Use your brain before even talking
2020-08-23 19:05
5 replies
#927
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Turkey HypnoSia
Triggred? are you mad? cuz im not
2020-08-23 19:09
4 replies
You can't reply with a proper answer kid. Your first answer was "When woxic said im a atheist?" When did I say woxic was talking about you lmao, learn english and get some education kid
2020-08-23 19:10
3 replies
#961
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Turkey HypnoSia
are you mad?
2020-08-24 00:36
#962
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Turkey HypnoSia
if you not mad why speaking with bad words are you mad?
2020-08-24 00:37
#963
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Turkey HypnoSia
cuz im not corona city
2020-08-24 00:37
Low your sensi woxic. Jesus
2020-08-23 10:08
I dont think that adding Chris to the primary awp is good. But look how many good awpers you have Oskar, played in mousesports smooya, 1.32 rating in Chaos But we will see
2020-08-23 10:09
#708
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Slovakia Mr_Jumbo
I love those salty turkish tears
2020-08-23 10:12
worst move of 2020
2020-08-23 10:18
#714
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Czech Republic Poloolpp
LMAO
2020-08-23 10:26
#715
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Serbia CoIe47
When will people realize that its not the players but the coach -rejin +kassad
2020-08-23 10:29
god damn so many 0 iq morons commenting without even reading the article.
2020-08-23 11:01
we are missing the real news here... the Wolf of Wallstreet is back !
2020-08-23 11:05
ChrisJ dictator of mouz, this is so ridiculous move
2020-08-23 11:07
I am confused, apparently there's a few hundred people who are insiders and for sure know what's happening in mouz's discord/teamspeak. Everyone seems like an expert, who is speaking the truth here?
2020-08-23 11:16
Finally, mouz will be top1 soon, Bymas will bring that team to the top
2020-08-23 11:26
Nu gryns Pipiras
2020-08-23 11:30
Why does no one here understand that woxic wasn't benched because of his performance but because of his attitude. Fucking HLTV kids don't even read the article anymore. They just go to the comments and make there own conclusion.
2020-08-23 11:34
Cjs performance has been so good xoxoxo
2020-08-23 11:43
#757
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Russia Rapu
Unexpected. But his last game: 2-19 for main AWPer...
2020-08-23 11:44
2 replies
#787
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Spain Atium_
Hoe many times did he had the awp?
2020-08-23 12:19
he knew he was gonna get kicked use brain idiot
2020-08-23 15:37
its fine he got a lot of money already
2020-08-23 11:45
wtf lol
2020-08-23 11:47
He's inconsistent but way better than bymas
2020-08-23 11:50
so excited to see chris back on the awp again! I still believe he has potential
2020-08-23 11:50
4 replies
nah, he is unskilled trash crishj lmfao
2020-08-23 12:00
3 replies
Name checks out
2020-08-23 13:59
salt
2020-08-23 14:02
1 reply
#956
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Peru Rhenie
Bro you cant deny that chrisj was average at best when he had the 2nd awping duties. How can you expect him to just come alive out of nowhere? If karrigans rating stay under 1.00 and frozen doesnt wake up this team will be notorious for 13-16th place finishes. #775 was rude but he had a point.
2020-08-23 23:10
Now that's real stupid, almost North level stupid
2020-08-23 11:53
too much ego
2020-08-23 11:55
When your best rifle player ropz had to awp and woxic using M4a1-s it was expected
2020-08-23 11:57
1 reply
I mean, it was one game
2020-08-23 12:27
a result of a poor attitude toxic woxic ??
2020-08-23 12:04
poor attitude and directly it makes him toxic. i really like cs community. everyone evaluate things at one perspective. maybe he critized something which everyone avoiding to talk. and he is toxic LOL
2020-08-23 12:15
2 replies
Definitly I believe this comment.
2020-08-23 12:25
1 reply
you misunderstood
2020-08-23 15:38
XANTARES on stream: Seriously? No Seriously? Nooooo
2020-08-23 12:26
Why ?
2020-08-23 12:35
Mouz gl in tier5 XD
2020-08-23 12:42
good luck to woxic and mouz but i don't think they'll kick him, i suppose woxic will come back when LANs are back. he is a top 3 awper at LAN. good luck to chris!
2020-08-23 12:50
It seems he suggested on benching BongJ but then BongJ is the grandfather of Mouz and thus it was considered a toxic remark and everyone wanted to avoid that convo. Props to woxic for saving himself from TrashJ. Now go find a team and rekt him
2020-08-23 12:51
1 reply