HUNDEN, dead, zoneR banned for coaching bug exploit

The trio face lengthy bans after deliberately using the glitch to gain unfair advantage.

Heroic's Nicolai "⁠HUNDEN⁠" Petersen, MIBR's Ricardo "⁠dead⁠" Sinigaglia and Hard Legion's Aleksandr "⁠zoneR⁠" Bogatiryev were all banned on Monday for abusing the coaching bug that came to public knowledge last week, ESL has announced.

The Russian coach faces the biggest punishment, a two-year ban, after using the bug on six maps across three different matches in ESL One: Road to Rio. HUNDEN has been banned for 12 months after using the bug in ten rounds of a single map during DreamHack Masters Spring, while dead will have to serve a six-month ban for using the bug in just one round during ESL One: Road to Rio.

The punishments were doled out after consultation with the Esports Integrity Coalition (ESIC). The three teams will be disqualified from the tournaments in question and will forfeit the corresponding ESL Pro Tour points and prize money.

HUNDEN banned one day after guiding Heroic to victory in ESL One Cologne

Heroic were the first of the three teams to react to the announcement. In a statement, the Danish organisation said that "an internal investigation was started today" after being notified of the ban by DreamHack, and vowed to answer all questions "at a later point".

MIBR also announced that dead, who took over as coach following the departure of Wilton "⁠zews⁠" Prado, has been "suspended effectively immediately", with the LA-based organisation due to provide further comment "pending the outcome of our investigation".

The bug became a topic of conversation last Wednesday, when Wisla Krakow coach Mariusz "⁠Loord⁠" Cybulski posted a tweet saying that he had come across a glitch enabling coaches to have an overview of a random spot on a map. This allowed them to inform players of an opponent's tendencies and economic situation at all times without getting detected.

This bug, which was also reported by other coaches, including Luis "⁠peacemaker⁠" Tadeu and zews, was fixed later that day in a CS:GO update released by Valve. The impact of the glitch was played down by many, who thought it to be a random occurrence, but in fact it had been exploited by some coaches in recent months, compromising the competitive integrity of several tournaments, an investigation conducted by veteran Counter-Strike referee Michal Slowinski uncovered.

ESL added that it has notified other tournament organisers of this issue and is willing to cooperate in their investigations. ESIC will be issuing separate sanctions soon in accordance with its Player Code of Conduct.

Heroic had won $3,000 by finishing in 9th-12th place in DreamHack Masters Spring, while MIBR had earned $2,000 by placing 7th-8th in ESL One: Road to Rio - North America, and Hard Legion $6,000 by finishing third in ESL One: Road to Rio - CIS. Neither ESL nor Valve has announced whether the latter two teams will lose the RMR points amassed in these two tournaments.

Brazil Wilton 'zews' Prado
Wilton 'zews' Prado
Age:
33
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.80
Maps played:
142
KPR:
0.53
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.13
Poland Mariusz 'Loord' Cybulski
Mariusz 'Loord' Cybulski
Age:
33
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.90
Maps played:
369
KPR:
0.61
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.15
Denmark Nicolai 'HUNDEN' Petersen
Nicolai 'HUNDEN' Petersen
Age:
29
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.81
Maps played:
1578
KPR:
0.55
DPR:
0.70
APR:
0.14
Brazil Ricardo 'dead' Sinigaglia
Ricardo 'dead' Sinigaglia
Age:
35
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.95
Maps played:
6
KPR:
0.59
DPR:
0.63
APR:
0.08
Brazil Luis 'peacemaker' Tadeu
Luis 'peacemaker' Tadeu
Age:
32
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.46
Maps played:
2
KPR:
0.21
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.17
Russia Aleksandr 'zoneR' Bogatiryev
Aleksandr 'zoneR' Bogatiryev
Age:
33
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.86
Maps played:
102
KPR:
0.61
DPR:
0.73
APR:
0.16
WTF expected from MIBR tho but WTF
2020-08-31 22:34
20 replies
Hijacking top comment to clarify that none of them cheated at Cologne, and Heroic won Cologne fair and square.
2020-08-31 22:38
19 replies
That’s not what it says. They only know that they used the bug in Dreamhack. So they could have used it in cologne.
2020-08-31 22:40
13 replies
oh my bad u right
2020-08-31 22:41
1 reply
ESL idiotes, who write code?
2020-09-02 13:22
I think it's in demos or server logs when it's used, which is why it can be detected so far back
2020-08-31 22:44
#204
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Croatia Makz_CRO
Maybe next time take an actual minute to read the article. The bug has been fixed. So Heroic's Cologne win is legit
2020-08-31 22:48
2 replies
no it wasn't fixed. Valve said they fixed it 26th, but 1 day after, bug was still working: twitter.com/bogdan_rakieta/status/129893..
2020-09-01 00:03
1 reply
Yeah it has been working on Esea up until yesterday, where Esea just turned off all ability to coach because they couldn't find what was wrong
2020-09-01 04:37
#331
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United States pes0man
twitter.com/michau9_/status/130053396119.. according to esl admin the bug wasn't used in cologne
2020-08-31 23:05
"We have since introduced measurements that prevent this abuse which have been in place starting with ESL One Cologne." Cologne clean
2020-08-31 23:31
it was patched well before cologne.
2020-08-31 23:52
4 replies
no it wasn't. They said they patched it 26th, but they didn't. Bug was still working, 1 day after "fix update" twitter.com/bogdan_rakieta/status/129893..
2020-09-01 00:05
3 replies
#660
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Turkey TheKaiser
It was prevented in Cologne.
2020-09-01 02:20
2 replies
only way they could prevent it, is to disable coach. If you saw coaches on the spectate, that mean bug was working like a charm.
2020-09-01 11:44
1 reply
Or going back in versions, or directly keeping an eye on coaches...
2020-09-01 21:48
Nvm i just read the whole thing lol
2020-08-31 22:43
3 replies
#214
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Portugal ImCooL
They already reviewed the demos from cologne
2020-08-31 22:49
Might been a good start before responding to one Who did read it lol
2020-08-31 23:16
whod believe that tho
2020-08-31 22:42
Deserved
2020-08-31 22:33
2 replies
+1 deserved worse
2020-09-01 05:12
1 reply
definitely
2020-09-02 09:13
lol
2020-08-31 22:34
#5
TeSeS | 
Portugal rbr
WTF
2020-08-31 22:34
#6
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Switzerland x676
hunden cheater, deserved
2020-08-31 22:34
#7
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Sweden Lingon
Wtf Hunden
2020-08-31 22:34
#10
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Poland Astoner55
WTFFFWTFFFWTFFF
2020-08-31 22:34
#11
EliGE | 
Poland Roxin
WTF
2020-08-31 22:34
RIP GOD HUNDEN
2020-08-31 22:34
2 replies
He can still work with Heroic, he just can't officially represent them in mtaches
2020-08-31 23:03
1 reply
#929
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North America 007DBR9
for a year
2020-09-01 12:17
WAT
2020-08-31 22:34
#14
NiKo | 
Montenegro G1EX
GOD HUNDEN
2020-08-31 22:34
2 replies
Not anymore
2020-09-01 16:20
From GOD HUNDEN to CHEATER HUNDEN.
2020-09-01 16:48
#15
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Spain Scar98
LOLL
2020-08-31 22:34
OMG
2020-08-31 22:34
#17
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Romania [AloHa]
kkkkkkkkkk
2020-08-31 22:34
LMAO
2020-08-31 22:34
RIP HUNDEN LUL
2020-08-31 22:34
#20
nEGRo | 
Finland Nexpo
What happens to Heroic, do they also get banned LOL?
2020-08-31 22:34
8 replies
#100
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Germany I_car
Hunden has a year ban...
2020-08-31 22:38
1 reply
AHAAAAAAAAA
2020-08-31 22:38
#369
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United Kingdom ulan
no they will just have to find another coach in the meantime
2020-08-31 23:11
#662
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Turkey TheKaiser
They legit won Cologne, Hunden only used it in DH Spring afaik.
2020-09-01 02:21
3 replies
#932
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North America 007DBR9
hunden just can't coach mid game, he can still help with prep
2020-09-01 12:19
source: my ass
2020-09-01 20:31
1 reply
hope for that
2020-09-01 05:03
#21
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Finland Cucumber))
WHAT THE FUCK
2020-08-31 22:34
OH NO
2020-08-31 22:34
WTF LMAO DOG HUNDEN
2020-08-31 22:34
3 replies
Reported
2020-09-01 05:04
2 replies
#892
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Finland naamapaab
Take a chill pill
2020-09-01 11:20
wtf mens it's just a translation hunden = the dog
2020-09-01 18:30
#24
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Germany AYEONV
deserved
2020-08-31 22:34
2 replies
stareknife
2020-08-31 22:37
deserved worse
2020-09-01 05:03
#25
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Spain Pog_chaos
LMAO
2020-08-31 22:34
RIP GOD HUNDEN
2020-08-31 22:34
4 replies
Dog hunden
2020-09-01 02:20
3 replies
actually afaik hunden means the dog
2020-09-01 04:12
2 replies
I can confirm this. It's literally "THE DOG".
2020-09-01 16:57
1 reply
yeah I meant "the dog" -en makes the "the" afaik like oxen and all
2020-09-01 18:17
wtf LUL
2020-08-31 22:34
#28
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Slovakia VladO.
lmao
2020-08-31 22:34
title made me think hunden had died
2020-08-31 22:35
10 replies
#55
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Poland humen))))
same :D
2020-08-31 22:36
lol same
2020-08-31 22:36
Same. Turns out, just his career.
2020-08-31 22:38
3 replies
Deserved. Cheating in money matches. If i was a team they beat with cheats, i would come to his house and f*** out of him
2020-08-31 23:24
#476
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United States m0rtyy
I don't rlly think is career ending, but i am getting pissed at people who are acting like this is how they won cologne, even though he said it was only in 10 rounds of dreamhack.
2020-08-31 23:34
1 reply
#933
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North America 007DBR9
yeah it's kinda annoying
2020-09-01 12:20
#96
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Argentina WaSTe_D
lmao thought the same
2020-08-31 22:38
Yes
2020-08-31 22:39
same lol
2020-08-31 23:21
same
2020-09-01 05:59
#30
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Germany I_car
Wtf
2020-08-31 22:35
WHAT GOD HUNDEN???
2020-08-31 22:35
#32
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Denmark Jonasnhj
WHAT??? This is CRAZY
2020-08-31 22:35
1 reply
#537
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Denmark dyinbyran
DW cologne was legit
2020-09-01 00:01
#33
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Russia Glihhh
Dead wyd that is making mibr lose, giving fake info so they Rush into stacks?
2020-08-31 22:35
2 replies
lmao good one
2020-09-01 04:21
imagine being fan of a clown team
2020-09-01 05:10
#34
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France Uexo
oh shit
2020-08-31 22:35
LOOOOOOOOOOOL. "The teams will forfeit their prize money from the tournament in question"
2020-08-31 22:35
14 replies
#353
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Iraq DuncanAK
RIP Heroic cologne money HAHHAA
2020-08-31 23:08
13 replies
Yeah lol O.o 150.000$ down the drain.
2020-08-31 23:09
3 replies
#362
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Iraq DuncanAK
Should be spread to all participating team in my opinion and cologne 2020 should have no winner
2020-08-31 23:10
2 replies
2020-08-31 23:12
Yeah 100%. BUT that depends on if ESL finds no more cheaters/Bug abusers tbh. Should let them go through all the VODs and such, like the ESL referee is doing right now, and then if no one else is banned etc give MIBR:s and Heroics money to the others.
2020-08-31 23:15
They got punished only for tournaments where they used this bug , not ESL cologne. Read carefully.
2020-08-31 23:12
4 replies
Yeah, but, still, they used this bug, so the money is still gone.
2020-08-31 23:15
3 replies
How money is gone if bug was fixed before cologne ? They win cologne, they got paid.
2020-08-31 23:16
2 replies
Well, from previous event(s)? "They got punished only for tournaments where they used this bug", you even typed this ^^
2020-08-31 23:18
1 reply
yeah if they won prize pool places from events where they cheated only. You made it sound like money from Cologne was gone. 90% here didn't even read the article and say dumb shit like : heroics cheaters , Cologne should not have a winner.
2020-08-31 23:20
#663
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Turkey TheKaiser
The bug was prevented from use in Cologne. Period. They won it legitimately.
2020-09-01 02:22
3 replies
It said the bug was patched on the 26th right? Cologne started a week before that. So while maybe not the finals possibly the group stages.
2020-09-01 03:58
2 replies
#947
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Sweden Svahn
Shady shit right here. Fucking scumbags cheating on all levels in csgo from pros to silvers. This is not the publicity valve needs or sponsors wants to hear
2020-09-01 13:05
#1004
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Iraq DuncanAK
+1
2020-09-01 15:31
WTF
2020-08-31 22:35
#37
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Germany ConAction
WTF NO WAY
2020-08-31 22:35
expected
2020-08-31 22:35
#39
flusha | 
Spain IMV_
That was totally unexpected!
2020-08-31 22:35
TFFF
2020-08-31 22:35
DAFUQ
2020-08-31 22:35
hunden why u do this >:(
2020-08-31 22:37
Vita won Cologne then
2020-08-31 22:35
3 replies
read the article
2020-08-31 22:42
no
2020-09-01 05:10
No cologne was legit, cause bug was fixed
2020-09-01 07:28
Taking away Heroic's victory then?
2020-08-31 22:35
1 reply
Read the article
2020-08-31 22:47
BOT HUNDEN
2020-08-31 22:35
2 replies
#487
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United States Jeebur
TI top MDL
2020-08-31 23:37
+1
2020-09-01 05:09
HUNDEN?????
2020-08-31 22:35
GOD HUNDEN!!!!!
2020-08-31 22:35
GOD HUNDEN
2020-08-31 22:35
#50
rain | 
Finland J0rm
I am shocked...
2020-08-31 22:35
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
2020-08-31 22:35
Hopefully Heroic Vs Vitality is replayed then
2020-08-31 22:35
22 replies
#93
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Brazil sakaaa
do you think there is anyway they can retroactively find out on what games this exploit was used? because if they do replay this match, they would need to replay ALL of them and the one susbsequently to them. AKA, kill half a year of tourneys.. WTF
2020-08-31 22:38
9 replies
Niko was extremely sus vs vitality at least on mirage... either he himself was cheating or hunden abused the glitch against them
2020-08-31 22:39
8 replies
#126
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Brazil sakaaa
makes sense, but if one should be replayed, than all should be replayed also. if they can't track every game, none shall be replayed. both scenarios sucks a lot.
2020-08-31 22:40
4 replies
I think they should at least spread their prize pool amongst all the teams and give Vitality the trophy/title or have them play the final against G2
2020-08-31 22:42
3 replies
They got banned for past tournaments ,nothing was said about ESL cologne. It was fair domination vs vitality.
2020-08-31 23:13
2 replies
2020-08-31 23:22
1 reply
true that
2020-08-31 23:23
the bug was fixed the 26th
2020-08-31 22:44
2 replies
Hunden shouldve been banned before cologne started because he abused it at dreamhack.
2020-08-31 22:50
1 reply
i guess niko was cheating then my good sir xd
2020-08-31 22:51
"Heroic, HUNDEN at DreamHack Masters Spring in 10 rounds on 1 map"
2020-08-31 22:44
1 reply
2020-08-31 22:51
The bug was fixed before Cologne. So I guess no replay
2020-08-31 22:46
2 replies
Fucking read. The bug was fixed before cologne...
2020-09-01 01:47
6 replies
5 replies
4 replies
cya after valve get involved and heroic get vac banned
2020-09-01 04:09
3 replies
But still Heroic 3 0 Vita HAHA How much
2020-09-01 11:24
1 reply
Nt vitality being mailed the cologne trophy
2020-09-01 13:52
Enough of b8ing m8, you're not doing a gr8 job. 0/8
2020-09-01 21:47
#53
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Belarus ChecksOut
What the fuuuuuuuck. Very unexpected, especially from hunden
2020-08-31 22:40
WTF
2020-08-31 22:36
#58
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Denmark nrth_LUL
Hunden you soiled your legacy and for what?
2020-08-31 22:36
2 replies
#684
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Switzerland Titan))
yeah what a moron
2020-09-01 03:26
+1
2020-09-01 11:30
#59
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Poland misioneos
lol xD
2020-08-31 22:36
#60
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United States SWiFTzZzZz
WHAT
2020-08-31 22:36
#61
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Turkey chrlea
LOL
2020-08-31 22:36
#62
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China HEIDASHUAi
HUNDEN WHY
2020-08-31 22:36
#63
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Brazil Vicmar
This Just shows how bad mibr is
2020-08-31 22:36
#65
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Finland Kanis
yikes!
2020-08-31 22:36
what the actual
2020-08-31 22:36
Hunden, Zonic, dead.... damn son :( this day keeps getting more dogshit because steel quit cs and I'm still going to jump.
2020-08-31 22:36
3 replies
edit: nvm Zonic is chill the headline cut off i only saw "Zo..." lol
2020-08-31 22:37
2 replies
hltv baited you haha
2020-08-31 22:40
1 reply
for real dawg holy shit lol
2020-08-31 22:41
#69
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Russia Dianov
BOT Hunden
2020-08-31 22:36
4 replies
+1
2020-09-01 05:09
#748
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Finland dvlx
mad coz navi bad ? lol god hunden forever
2020-09-01 05:25
2 replies
hahaha hunden cheater abusing exploit to win
2020-09-01 05:52
1 reply
Your hero did worse, never ever forget that.
2020-09-01 08:31
#70
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Brazil sakaaa
RIP
2020-08-31 22:36
KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
2020-08-31 22:36
wtf
2020-08-31 22:36
MIBR CRYING ABOUT OTHER TEAMS CHEATING WHILE THEY DID THE SAME LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TALK ABOUT HYPOCRISY
2020-08-31 22:37
3 replies
Not the first time
2020-08-31 22:54
#526
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Germany Jermen
Fallen's excuse: "we didn't know our coach cheated"
2020-08-31 23:57
#1111
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Brazil KVNonly
This report dont say how many times this bug was used... According to ESL, Dead used this bug for one round and a pistol round... He has the possibility of used this bug unintentionally, and if he leaves the game in the middle of round it will be a big problem, but he leaves before this round and didnt say nothing to the team according to him... A lot of coaches suffer from it... eslgaming.com/article/exploitation-coach..
2020-09-02 13:23
#74
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Europe Veyles
HUND to VALORANT 100%
2020-08-31 22:37
#75
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Romania ziggeRR
yooo what is gonna happen now
2020-08-31 22:37
OH NONONO HUNDEN YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE
2020-08-31 22:37
1 reply
#202
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United States L0_rit0
God HUNDEN :(
2020-08-31 22:48
LMAO DEAD what a pos this guys is
2020-08-31 22:37
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhA
2020-08-31 22:37
WHY !?!??!?! FCK THIS
2020-08-31 22:37
its a game exploit, hunden, dead and zoner cant do anything with that even if they warned esl, esl woudnt do shit
2020-08-31 22:38
1 reply
#685
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Switzerland Titan))
good bait
2020-09-01 03:27
LMFAO GET FKED
2020-08-31 22:37
#85
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France SirC44
he didn't have the bug yesterday, right?
2020-08-31 22:37
3 replies
Apparently was fixed before Cologne
2020-08-31 22:49
2 replies
#219
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France SirC44
yeah but tournaments are sometimes played on old patches to avoid surprises?
2020-08-31 22:49
1 reply
Hard to say, but assuming that it was a known exploit, they surely tried to get the rid of it ASAP
2020-08-31 22:51
its funny how everyone was praising "hunden mastermind" just yesterday, haahaha
2020-08-31 22:37
11 replies
i want a rematch with Col and redo the entire bracket
2020-08-31 22:42
1 reply
Read the article...
2020-08-31 22:49
IT WAS A SINGLE MATCH IN DREAMHACK MASTERS
2020-08-31 22:49
3 replies
he still cheated. If he was a legend like many people are saying, he wouldnt have cheated
2020-08-31 22:51
2 replies
flusha schneider jw for example cheated back in 1.6 and that didnt do anything to their legacies..
2020-09-01 04:13
1 reply
different game
2020-09-01 11:21
He used it for 10 rounds in Dreamhack, the bug was fixed when Cologne started so cry is free.
2020-08-31 22:52
4 replies
I am not talking about cologne. He still cheated, so he doesn't deserve all these praise the community gives him.
2020-08-31 22:53
3 replies
Dead was caught live when he was using the bug, do you really think Mibr used it for just 1 round? Just imagine getting humilated every map by tier 10 while using a bug lmao
2020-08-31 22:54
2 replies
I am not talking about Dead, everyone but brazilians hate him anyway. But hunden was getting praised so much, but he ended up being a cheater
2020-08-31 23:13
#687
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Switzerland Titan))
yikes, GOD Hunden more like dirty scumbag cheater way to go
2020-09-01 03:28
OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!
2020-08-31 22:37
1 reply
#289
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Europe AlL1n
It makes you wonder I was watching col vs navi game and thouths lol navi getting outbrained on every corner than this news hit floor and now it all makes sens online Cs what to expect.
2020-08-31 22:59
#89
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New Zealand SkirmishX
RIP
2020-08-31 22:37
#90
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CIS eddie42
hahahahhaa
2020-08-31 22:38
LUL WUT
2020-08-31 22:38
Lolol God hunden I aren't think dat
2020-08-31 22:38
for those only read the title he used it in dreamhack last month and still got 10th LOOOL
2020-08-31 22:38
Shiiieeeeeet :()
2020-08-31 22:39
HAHAHHAHA TWF
2020-08-31 22:39
#109
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Sweden Trkmag
Hahaha wtf
2020-08-31 22:39
Expected ☠️
2020-08-31 22:39
#113
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Germany ConAction
Hunden 12 months ban HOLY SHIT
2020-08-31 22:39
LMFAO AHAHAAHAHAHA WTFFFF
2020-08-31 22:39
Nice
2020-08-31 22:41
Damn wtf ?
2020-08-31 22:39
AHHAHAHA Heroic cheaters
2020-08-31 22:39
3 replies
Not on cologne
2020-08-31 23:15
2 replies
once a cheater always a cheater
2020-09-01 11:19
1 reply
dude , the glitch was fixed before cologne , what you talking about ?
2020-09-01 14:42
#119
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United Kingdom StonkBonk
Why the different length bans?
2020-08-31 22:39
2 replies
"After closely analysing all matches from ESL and DreamHack competitions which took place in the past months, and consulting with Valve in the process to solidify our findings, we have identified the following coaches to have knowingly misused the bug for a competitive advantage in live tournaments: Hard Legion, MechanoGun at ESL One Road to Rio on 6 maps in 3 matches Heroic, HUNDEN at DreamHack Masters Spring in 10 rounds on 1 map MIBR, dead at ESL One Road to Rio in 1 round on 1 map" depending on how much it was abused i guess
2020-08-31 22:42
1 reply
#159
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United Kingdom StonkBonk
Yeah I commented without reading the article Their reasoning seems pretty fair
2020-08-31 22:43
#120
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Hungary subzera
Mibr just falling lower and lower lmfao
2020-08-31 22:39
GOD HUNDEN BANNED wTF???????????????
2020-08-31 22:40
WTTFFFFFFFFFFFF
2020-08-31 22:40
How can they possibly know they used this exploit tho? and why in the world is HUNDEN getting 12 months for that amount of money and a russian coach (who does he coach for) get 2x?
2020-08-31 22:40
3 replies
I would also like to know, how can they identify which rounds it was being used etc.
2020-08-31 22:46
2 replies
#247
NEO | 
Poland Amirek
demo reviews
2020-08-31 22:53
1 reply
#860
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Lithuania aikaz45
2020-09-01 10:06
#130
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Brazil 3nzow
wtf?
2020-08-31 22:40
LOL
2020-08-31 22:40
WTF!!!!
2020-08-31 22:40
Bruh, my twitter is just people saying "WTF!!!!" or retweeting this tweet xD Jesus, this is wild. RIP HUNDEN Men(((((
2020-08-31 22:42
1 reply
Bruh Bruh all no lifers
2020-09-01 11:17
Hard Legion, MechanoGun at ESL One Road to Rio on 6 maps in 3 matches Heroic, HUNDEN at DreamHack Masters Spring in 10 rounds on 1 map MIBR, dead at ESL One Road to Rio in 1 round on 1 map
2020-08-31 22:41
So thats why Heroic won Hope this helps
2020-08-31 22:40
3 replies
That didnt happen during Cologne Hope this helps
2020-08-31 23:29
2 replies
How you know?
2020-08-31 23:44
1 reply
The text says that hunden used that bug in dreamhack spring
2020-08-31 23:47
Vergonha Nacional
2020-08-31 22:41
#140
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Sweden Lordzxz
mibr lol
2020-08-31 22:41
lmaaaaaao wtffff
2020-08-31 22:41
#145
NEO | 
Poland Amirek
WHAT? IS THIS THE ONE LORD REPORTED LATELY? WTF HUNDED UNEXPECTED :((( Edit: Didnt read the news, sad that hunden banned but hopefully it will make scene a better place
2020-08-31 22:42
o man
2020-08-31 22:41
#152
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Argentina beenji
HUNDEN has been banned for 12 months and dead for six months. I think that they didn't need to kill him for six months also but well...
2020-08-31 22:42
mibr can't even win with the bug lul
2020-08-31 22:42
1 reply
assuming the information is correct dead used 1 round
2020-08-31 22:52
#156
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Palestine MrZoldiK
Lol , dafaq
2020-08-31 22:42
Hunden dead
2020-08-31 22:42
1 reply
#762
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Finland dehU
+1 I read it like that first. I nearly chocked on my morning coffee.
2020-09-01 06:05
ib4 more coaches get banned
2020-08-31 22:43
#162
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Brazil BMR7
Dead used it in a pistol round and didn't tell the team. WTF hahahahah
2020-08-31 22:43
#163
 | 
United States inflict
rip heroic
2020-08-31 22:43
Rip zoner
2020-08-31 22:44
24 and 12 months, very nice
2020-08-31 22:44
#168
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Poland Frytekooo
F
2020-08-31 22:44
#169
OK | 
Europe B0OMER
LMAOOO
2020-08-31 22:44
#171
 | 
World breezy0
please no... HUNDEN :(
2020-08-31 22:45
HUNDEN AHAHAHA
2020-08-31 22:45
#173
 | 
Russia HikZ
loord-rat Hunden-god
2020-08-31 22:45
F
2020-08-31 22:46
#175
 | 
Germany BIG2020
oh no mens(
2020-08-31 22:45
#178
 | 
Poland felulo2k
HAHAAHAHAHH
2020-08-31 22:46
Rip Hunden on Dreamhack xd
2020-08-31 22:46
#181
VINI | 
Brazil 1930
L MY FUCKING ASS OFF
2020-08-31 22:46
#182
leaf | 
Argentina ReacC
HAHAHAH
2020-08-31 22:46
And it all comes crashing down
2020-08-31 22:46
HUNDEN NO!
2020-08-31 22:46
#185
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Hungary subzera
Mibr crying that chaos are cheaters while mibr coach is using a spectator exploit lmfao get out of here. Beyond pathetic
2020-08-31 22:46
4 replies
One round lul relax
2020-08-31 23:05
3 replies
#439
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Hungary subzera
Still cheAting
2020-08-31 23:25
ItS oNlY oNe RoUnD bRo
2020-08-31 23:42
GOD HUNDEN
2020-08-31 22:46
Heroic, HUNDEN at DreamHack Masters Spring in 10 rounds on 1 map 10 rounds on 1 map and then never used again??? I don't really trust their "findings", but do remember that this has nothing to do with their recent wins.
2020-08-31 22:46
4 replies
+1
2020-08-31 22:57
#367
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Poland Recruitn1
Honestly you can never trust any team they will do everything to win tourneys example fnatic dreamhack Winter, bug bug pgl
2020-08-31 23:11
2 replies
It is true that once money is on the line, many people will go to extensive lengths...... You see all those tier 2 teams, suddenly competing with the best teams in the world, and wonder.... How many of them are actually cheating, because it's easier online? Hunden never striked me as such person
2020-08-31 23:14
1 reply
#464
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Poland Recruitn1
You can Wonder what exploit they can use maybe the coach can use the one where textures are invisible after swap of game files. mibr would surely do it, hunden idk
2020-08-31 23:32
BANDEN
2020-08-31 22:46
hunden lost all my respect
2020-08-31 22:47
#191
HS | 
Estonia qoznyyy
haha wtf
2020-08-31 22:47
Lol wtf :D alright the numbers are small for them but they exist, seems like will to win was higher than anything to these guys...
2020-08-31 22:47
2 replies
to win ? take a look. Heroic - DH Masters Spring: 9th/12th (they used it 10 rounds)
2020-08-31 22:49
1 reply
ikr, with will to win I meant that they used it anyway instead of closing it right after noticing IF they did it on purpose, of course
2020-08-31 22:52
#193
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Finland 5way
BOT HUNDEN
2020-08-31 22:47
Oh no HUNDEN isn't goat ?😂
2020-08-31 22:47
#197
 | 
Bulgaria goshyy
Mom, I am in history!
2020-08-31 22:47
#199
JW | 
Sweden Hasklon
WTF???
2020-08-31 22:48
DAMN
2020-08-31 22:48
HardLegion - CIS Road to Rio: 3rd Heroic - DH Masters Spring: 9th/12th MiBR - NA Road to Rio: 7th/8th NONE OF THEM WERE IN COLOGNE HEROIC WON COLOGNE FAIR AND SQUARE.
2020-08-31 22:48
2 replies
nt
2020-08-31 23:00
nt
2020-09-01 05:57
finally some drama again
2020-08-31 22:48
Omg noo haha Hunden whyyy
2020-08-31 22:48
Noooooo. My master turned out to be a trickster. Shameful dog! You are no longer my master!
2020-08-31 22:48
#210
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Serbia bra1np
What a haxers lol
2020-08-31 22:52
-zoner +zoner -zoner +zoner
2020-08-31 22:49
#216
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Finland dokudanny
hahah fucking cheaters nice cologne Cheatoic :DD dog hunden ruined for life
2020-08-31 22:49
1 reply
0 iq spotted This bug was fixed before Cologne
2020-08-31 22:52
This is fake, ESL wanna destroy GOD Hunden and what he do with Heroic. Because this not looking so suspicious they also ban couple other coaches. :D
2020-08-31 22:50
3 replies
#553
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Brazil MARSH4LL
Yes, banning coaches from tier 5 teams. ESL NEED TO BE CLOSED
2020-09-01 00:09
2 replies
Heroic No2 right now, with god Hunden strats and random average 5 danish players this can't be true. They ban 3-4 more coaches to make look like this is for spectation glitch use, but in reality this is operation to destroy god Hunden.
2020-09-01 00:12
1 reply
#600
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Brazil MARSH4LL
Yes, like they cant accept that the GOD HUNDEN is on top right now
2020-09-01 00:40
#220
 | 
Germany DEBlL
only BIG dont have to use any bugs to be #1 !
2020-08-31 22:50
1 reply
LMAO
2020-08-31 23:43
Bruh, i remember praccing vs Cadian in like 2015, even since then coming up hes been fucked over and over and over
2020-08-31 22:50
1 reply
he is so unlucky
2020-08-31 23:00
where are the stupids that they were blaming BIG about this exploit?
2020-08-31 22:51
OH MY FUCKING GOD
2020-08-31 22:51
hahahaah god hunden XD XDXDXSDXDDDXDD
2020-08-31 22:51
Pretty sure I saw Mibr's coach stream sniping a couple of times
2020-08-31 22:59
#237
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Finland H0rnPub
HEROIC FALSE CHAMPIONS, WHAT A SHAME :DD
2020-08-31 22:52
2 replies
#597
 | 
Russia armando_o
u read or not? /not
2020-09-01 00:37
1 reply
#862
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Finland H0rnPub
If this happened be4 sunday, heroic wudnt have hunden mid round calling for em vs g2+vita
2020-09-01 10:14
WATAFAK
2020-08-31 22:52
KKKKKKKKKKKK
2020-08-31 22:52
#243
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Armenia TiBoN29
Lolll
2020-08-31 22:53
Dead is not even a proper "coach". He's a manager in coach slot.
2020-08-31 22:53
4 replies
he was coaching in that moment so the ban is legit. don't come with leaf cheating story ever again ty
2020-08-31 22:55
3 replies
No man, you didn't understand, i mean he is not behind any call or tactics, so mibr doesn't lose anything tbh. Heroic will suffer the most coz it seems they improved a lot since hunden joined. I never meant to say ban was not fair.
2020-08-31 22:57
2 replies
even if it was 1 round, could ruin their economy for other rounds. you could clearly see you can see a rush or a fast split through that bug imgur.com/a/4DWgTCN
2020-08-31 22:59
1 reply
Yeah, team should not use bugs. Bans are legit. My point was it will not hurt mibr that much.
2020-08-31 23:01
How this affects the players? aren't they accomplices or something? idk about this bug, sorry
2020-08-31 22:53
2 replies
#497
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Poland Julka
This bug allows coach to spawn in any spot he wants. He is like a spectator and can see everything, that's actually a huge advantage
2020-08-31 23:40
1 reply
huge indeed, well thanks for the clarification!
2020-08-31 23:46
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH mibr actually cheating
2020-08-31 22:53
axaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa
2020-08-31 22:54
holy fuck
2020-08-31 22:54
Shocking news, shame on them, im shocked that players that knew are not punished also, they are all in this together
2020-08-31 22:54
5 replies
I guess it is the question if the players knew it or not. Heroic played all from their own home. But MIBR LUL played from same room sure they knew it.
2020-08-31 22:57
4 replies
u are sure? ofc u are, u are there
2020-08-31 22:59
1 reply
Delusional MIBR fan even dont belive facts when they are cheating.
2020-08-31 23:02
mibr got caught for one map in only one round, so i dont find mibr as a real issue here, i doubt they did it on purpose but who knows others are the real problem, and im super confident players knew, because whats the point then
2020-09-01 02:56
1 reply
Nope all are the problems.
2020-09-01 03:35
CSGO still in beta.
2020-08-31 22:54
#257
NEO | 
Poland Amirek
Btw, can't wait to know if coaches from t2-t3 used this also, if I read this correctly we might eb expecting more bans because there is like 1500 demos more
2020-08-31 22:55
4 replies
Don't think T2-t3 tournaments care that much.
2020-08-31 22:57
3 replies
#287
NEO | 
Poland Amirek
twitter.com/michau9_/status/130053349468.. "I have another 1000 to go through, time for tier2-3 events!"
2020-08-31 22:59
2 replies
Oh, But I think that's only ESL quals. Hope he finds more, this is gold.
2020-08-31 23:02
1 reply
#328
NEO | 
Poland Amirek
The guy is a fucking GOD, respect for this dude, he reviewed so many demos in such a short time, holy shit
2020-08-31 23:04
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
2020-08-31 22:55
#263
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France SirC44
rip Heroic without Hunden calling
2020-08-31 22:55
#265
 | 
Brazil zinum
WTH
2020-08-31 22:55
I am sad for Hunden but own fault. he should have known better. What they gonna do with the players when it comes out they knew that hunden use it?
2020-08-31 22:56
Good work ESL. Hunden, you silly goose.
2020-08-31 22:56
#269
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Germany REVyAw
noobs HAHAHAHAHHAHA give them a perm ban and bye with the cheaters.
2020-08-31 22:56
2 replies
#341
 | 
Oceania aZZtec
Big on inferno 2018
2020-08-31 23:06
1 reply
#1059
 | 
Germany REVyAw
cry
2020-09-01 18:17
RIP GOD HUNDEN :/
2020-08-31 22:57
Ban the players too
2020-08-31 22:57
#274
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Chile cristiaan
LOL?
2020-08-31 22:57
What does this mean for teams who lost to Heroic, MIBR, and Hard Legion?
2020-08-31 22:57
1 reply
wtf lost to MIBR?
2020-09-01 08:36
#278
 | 
Finland Teukkasd
nice hunden hahahah
2020-08-31 22:57
MiBr coach banned for using it 1 round xD how can they know it wasnt by mistake :PP Wisla krakow coach used it aswell when he showed it on twitter so he should get banned aswell then xDDD
2020-08-31 22:58
3 replies
1 round my ass, they most likely used it every game considering MIBR's reputation, fucking scumbags.
2020-08-31 22:59
2 replies
yeah but it says one round in the article bruh
2020-08-31 23:24
1 reply
#870
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Australia Sify
which is kinda bs, he couldve just told someone or typed ingame that his screen is glitching and he could abuse it, rather than staying silent. deserved ban for him
2020-09-01 10:31
dead 1 ROUND 6 months.... i guess now we know how heroic won this last tournament. hunden piece of shit !
2020-08-31 22:58
4 replies
Only 1 round found, could be a lot more
2020-08-31 23:06
2 replies
no it couldnt because he found 1 round otherwise this wouldnt have been posted
2020-08-31 23:06
1 reply
He could get away with others undetected so far
2020-08-31 23:08
wow, classic brazilians. point the finger to others instead of seeing how your team is so bad and cheat at the same time. go say leaf is still cheating without proofs
2020-08-31 23:06
#290
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Brazil dkf
All the player's POV (pitch, yaw and roll) info is on the demos, even when you are just an spectator. For instance, you can tell what player the coaches are spectating at any point (it shows in the demo as any other player). Valve and actually anyone can check exactly what they did, what they were looking at, for how long, etc, just by parsing the demos.
2020-08-31 22:59
2 replies
how to see coach pov while watching demo?
2020-09-01 15:55
1 reply
#1097
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Brazil dkf
You can't see it by watching directly in client, you have to read the actual demo data and interpret it from there (using a programming language). Google "demoinfogo" if you want to give it a try. It's not exactly easy though.
2020-09-02 01:02
Ouch, MiBR will lose their major qualifier points. Oh well, the major won't be in Brazil anyway.
2020-08-31 22:59
3 replies
#914
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Finland JooonsMO
Proof (about points). I was wondering will Valve do anything about this. They already lost their price money and ESL Pro Tour points but haven't heard about RMR points.
2020-09-01 11:50
2 replies
If they're disqualified from the event, it's pretty safe to assume they'll lose their points.
2020-09-01 14:22
1 reply
#997
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Finland JooonsMO
Well there are two parties here Valve and ESL. ESL probably has the power to take their price money and ESL Pro Tour points. Valve has probably the power to take their RMR points. ESL has taken their price money and ESL Pro Tour points. I have heard nothing from Valve. So there is slight possibility that Valve wont ban dead or take those RMR point.
2020-09-01 14:48
bruh
2020-08-31 23:00
And MIBR players and their delusional fans accuse other teams for cheating LMFAO
2020-08-31 23:01
Never give respect to them again.
2020-08-31 23:00
#299
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Chile nachooww
KEKW
2020-08-31 23:00
WTF HEROIC? BRUH
2020-08-31 23:00
now that's crazy
2020-08-31 23:00
#303
 | 
United States yurr
heroic def cheated vs vitality lol
2020-08-31 23:01
1 reply
Untrue, was during DH Masters Spring
2020-08-31 23:04
makes perfect sense how Heroic seemingly were always a step up rotationally. Can't wait to see them stymied in pro league
2020-08-31 23:01
17 replies
Any chance they lose their recent title?
2020-08-31 23:02
8 replies
dead will receive a 6-month ban from playing or coaching in competition HUNDEN will receive a 12-month ban from playing or coaching in competition MechanoGun will receive a 24-month ban from playing or coaching in competition The teams will retroactively be disqualified from the tournament in question The teams will forfeit their ESL Pro Tour points from the tournament in question The teams will forfeit their prize money from the tournament in question
2020-08-31 23:08
not for Cologne cause there isn't sufficient evidence
2020-08-31 23:23
6 replies
Sufficient evidence? Did you not read the article? IT WAS FIXED BEFORE COLLOGNE!!!!!
2020-09-01 07:51
5 replies
lmao you realize how many ways there are to exploit things like this?
2020-09-01 10:24
4 replies
please enlighten us good sir.
2020-09-01 18:21
3 replies
Please use your brain idiot. The bug has been around for months
2020-09-02 01:23
2 replies
great response friend. now i understand.
2020-09-04 21:14
1 reply
0/8
2020-09-05 03:30
It didn't happen in cologne already confirmed by the ESL employee in question who went through the vods
2020-08-31 23:21
7 replies
Sure bud its not like there are multiple ways to exploit a bug
2020-08-31 23:22
6 replies
#486
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United States m0rtyy
keep using it as your excuse for vital getting rekt bud
2020-08-31 23:37
5 replies
0/8 group stage nerd talking. Lmk when they fluke their way to another final
2020-08-31 23:46
4 replies
#569
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United States m0rtyy
keep malding
2020-09-01 00:18
3 replies
0/8 cry is free
2020-09-01 00:53
2 replies
You are the one crying.
2020-09-01 02:27
1 reply
Yawn nt loser, Israeli would take the cheaters side.
2020-09-01 10:23
#307
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Denmark Dust_2_Go
R.I.P Heroic
2020-08-31 23:01
MIBR CHEATED AND STILL LOST KKKKKKKKKKKKK
2020-08-31 23:11
okay so I dont want to bitch but I lost so much money because HL played really good on RtR xD I'm kinda malding
2020-08-31 23:01
1 reply
#378
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Germany Koalafire
deserved, never bet on or against HL as this guys are the biggest struggler in tier 2 scene
2020-08-31 23:14
Holy shit. I bet they can find more coaches that did this if they conduct an investigation in every demo of every map played since online champs started.
2020-08-31 23:01
I met hunden in London during the Faceit Major. He came out of a bush and joined me and my friends on our walk to mcdonalds. Whilst we were walking to the mcd he was bragging about how he taught gla1ve everything he knew. Got a picture with him where he made fun of my fnatic jersey. At mcdonalds he took like 10 packs of ketchup. Nice guy. He was pretty drunk.
2020-08-31 23:02
1 reply
rofl
2020-08-31 23:29
twitter.com/Xyp9x/status/130015747159252.. OMG LOOK, NOW I KNOW WHY XYP9X TWEETED THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2020-08-31 23:02
That explains BIG's success
2020-08-31 23:03
I read "hunden dead, zoner banned.
2020-08-31 23:03
What happened when team used smoke/nvidia bug??
2020-08-31 23:03
1 reply
Nothing because they can't prove that
2020-09-01 11:12
#326
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World breezy0
I met hunden in London during the Faceit Major. He came out of a bush and joined me and my friends on our walk to mcdonalds. Whilst we were walking to the mcd he was bragging about how he taught gla1ve everything he knew. Got a picture with him where he made fun of my fnatic jersey. At mcdonalds he took like 10 packs of ketchup. Nice guy. He was pretty drunk.
2020-08-31 23:04
1 reply
Cool story bro
2020-08-31 23:06
HUNDEN so good VALVE had to put him down
2020-08-31 23:04
#330
 | 
Portugal xxxruixxx
Dead is dead..
2020-08-31 23:04
#332
 | 
Brazil g4laxI
Wtf mibr, what a shame omg
2020-08-31 23:05
rip god hunden
2020-08-31 23:05
heh
2020-08-31 23:05
Expected nothing else from snakes in brazil But super disappointed in Hunden; this takes a lot away from heroics latest successes
2020-08-31 23:05
3 replies
Well while it definetly takes a lot from it, the guy going through the vods at ESL already confirmed it didn't happen in cologne. Tournament was run on another build where it wasn't possible
2020-08-31 23:20
2 replies
#548
REZ | 
Sweden jackir
but they are just jealous of GOD hunden so they cry anyway
2020-09-01 00:06
1 reply
I actually was pretty glad for heroic, and I know that their cologne win was most likely legit Still it leaves a bitter taste that Hunden tried to win this way @ DH Masters
2020-09-01 00:10
MIBR to disband finally?
2020-08-31 23:06
#345
 | 
Europe b7ack0ut
WTF
2020-08-31 23:06
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
2020-08-31 23:07
It seems that there is evidence of them exploiting the bug in other non ESL tournaments as well. Lets wait other organizers to come out with their own findings about the bug.
2020-08-31 23:07
no brazilian major for dead ahah
2020-08-31 23:07
So this is not fixed yet ? I dont understand lol
2020-08-31 23:07
OMEGALUL
2020-08-31 23:08
This is very sad for the heroic guys. They played so well and then this happens... Not for hunden tho. For him its deserved
2020-08-31 23:08
3 replies
Yeah damn heroic played perfect, sucks to get this
2020-08-31 23:12
The guy going through the vods already confirmed none of it happened in cologne.
2020-08-31 23:19
1 reply
they also played very well at dreamhack they got 2nd
2020-08-31 23:19
wtf ban theeem alll
2020-08-31 23:09
W T F ?????
2020-08-31 23:09
#363
 | 
Switzerland Sylleo
LMAO MIBR, how fucking miserable of you
2020-08-31 23:10
1 reply
Fallen is so damn corrupt, he'll do anything to win, yet he still loses even in tier 5 tourneys
2020-08-31 23:13
#364
 | 
Argentina nymeros
They banned him right after the Finals ffs such a bad luck for us
2020-08-31 23:10
5 replies
XD
2020-08-31 23:18
#409
 | 
Poland Recruitn1
Pro league will be win bro
2020-08-31 23:19
3 replies
no
2020-08-31 23:20
2 replies
#428
 | 
Poland Recruitn1
Sry mouz wont win too Far locked in, teams are Miles better online then mouse
2020-08-31 23:23
1 reply
did i say mouz was gonna win?
2020-08-31 23:23
Ahahaahhaahhaahahaha
2020-08-31 23:11
poor cadian
2020-08-31 23:13
Dead one round nt
2020-08-31 23:14
holy shit
2020-08-31 23:14
oh mibr
2020-08-31 23:14
wow
2020-08-31 23:14
mibr cheated and still lost LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
2020-08-31 23:15
MIBR lol This is karma
2020-08-31 23:15
So MiBR has been crying about Chaos being cheaters and in the end, they were the cheaters all along.
2020-08-31 23:16
2 replies
#1081
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Sweden DEFENSE!
Nah they have not cheated, just used a built in bug in the game. Not the same thing as using an external software to cheat.
2020-09-01 21:58
1 reply
By definition that's literally cheating, so yes, they're cheaters. Unless you're mocking delusional arguments from Brazilians
2020-09-01 22:21
#392
 | 
Brazil YUB8
WTFF
2020-08-31 23:16
Will be remembered as the day when GOD HUNDEN became DOG HUNDEN lul
2020-08-31 23:17
#398
 | 
Denmark pdxm
mibr cried about chaos, yet the cheated and are still bad
2020-08-31 23:17
I dont get why HUNDEN would do that, lost respect for him had it been 1 or 2 be like ahh he found it funny but 10... Nah enjoy the ban lol think heroic is fine tho
2020-08-31 23:18
4 replies
disappointed, i really like the guy and thought he would make a great coach and a talent scout, but seems he really enjoys scouting enemy's positions with cheating lol
2020-08-31 23:20
3 replies
I agree always seemed like a chill bloke with great ability to create good players
2020-08-31 23:21
2 replies
+1 he is still a great dude to have in the danish scene and can be useful even with ban, but definitely some respect was lost by many looking up to him
2020-08-31 23:24
1 reply
Yea lets see what the internal inspection Will conclude and he prob Will do a statement or be kicked if refuse I think but yes great to have in the scene
2020-08-31 23:25
the irony in mibr case.... but nice of esl to show real backbone
2020-08-31 23:18
omg why cheat???
2020-08-31 23:18
1 reply
Because their parents didn't raise them properly
2020-08-31 23:21
#403
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Finland dokudanny
im fucking dying hahaha
2020-08-31 23:18
Nooooo... enjoy your Vacation coaches :/ Why do Valve makes such crap programming to begin with, that company is full of idiots.
2020-08-31 23:20
Hunden why
2020-08-31 23:20
#415
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Poland SebL
wtf. That's so sad. But yeah, unfair things needs to be banned.
2020-08-31 23:21
2020-08-31 23:22
hahaha dead is dead
2020-08-31 23:22
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH
2020-08-31 23:22
mibr kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2020-08-31 23:22
#430
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Portugal Diogo0814
GOD HUNDEN??? LUL
2020-08-31 23:23
SO HOW DID THEY FIND OUT ABOUT THEM?
2020-08-31 23:24
#438
LETN1 | 
Poland Szcz
HUNDEN NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
2020-08-31 23:24
#FREEHUNDEN
2020-08-31 23:24
HUNDEN MVP
2020-08-31 23:25
HUNDEN OMEGALUL Vita #1 deserved
2020-08-31 23:26
BIG are #1 without coach exploit. Thanks cheaters - it's even more impressive now.
2020-08-31 23:26
1 reply
#872
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Australia Sify
well wheres big ban for jump bug
2020-09-01 10:34
XAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAX
2020-08-31 23:27
3 replies
Na'vi wouldn't win even with aimbot+walls, why do you even show up here? 12 rounds against NiP in 2 maps lmao
2020-08-31 23:33
2 replies
terrible bait
2020-08-31 23:39
dude atleast try
2020-09-01 05:55
HAHAHAHAHAHA
2020-08-31 23:29
#458
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Poland coniasty
omegalul
2020-08-31 23:30
#459
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Denmark Alphamon
HUNDEN why :(
2020-08-31 23:30
#461
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Hungary raffai
WHAT the Hell??? So Heroic won the tournament cuz this glitch?
2020-08-31 23:31
4 replies
That happened on another event , not Cologne
2020-08-31 23:32
Maybe read ? Exploit wasn't used in cologne
2020-08-31 23:32
Dreamhack Masters Spring is not ESL One Cologne
2020-08-31 23:34
1 reply
#746
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Hungary raffai
tldr you know
2020-09-01 05:13
AXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXA SO THATS WHY NAVI GOT REKT VS HARD LEGION AT ROAD TO RIO, FREAKING CHEATERS
2020-08-31 23:31
NOOOOOOOOO HUNDEN WTF MAN Holy shit man this is some fucking sad news, fuck cheating though
2020-08-31 23:41
THEY have to ban all off them, its hard but hacking is hacking !!! WOW mibr coach has to sucks so well, allways good events slots, here the lowest ban....
2020-08-31 23:32
Not surprised about dead and zoner but hunden? How u can cheat dude.. Btw imagine if hard legion used that vs navi, s1 will be mad af lmao
2020-08-31 23:33
#470
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Russia Syonamaru
WTF
2020-08-31 23:35
WTF????????
2020-08-31 23:33
Dead is very lucky only 1 round found so far!!
2020-08-31 23:34
2 replies
Maybe he just went for a shit while the bug happened lol. It's hard to believe that he would use the cheat but only a single time
2020-09-01 02:41
1 reply
Definitely not a single time, more demos to be reviewed
2020-09-01 07:31
no way lul
2020-08-31 23:34
KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
2020-08-31 23:34
dead benched check mibr twitter
2020-08-31 23:34
God hunden banned KEKW
2020-08-31 23:35
ahahaha so the real cheaters were mibr all along, also hunden lost his god status
2020-08-31 23:35
ez for f0rsaken Got three new brothers
2020-08-31 23:36
never ban players for bug abuse. Its valve's mistake
2020-08-31 23:36
4 replies
what retard logic is this? "dont ban players for aimbot it's valves mistake for not having 100% anticheat"
2020-08-31 23:40
3 replies
there is even a logic in your words. remeber big using jumping bug
2020-09-01 00:00
#598
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World breezy0
a bug is a problem in valve's code, cheats are external manipulation of the code. also there's a grey zone between "problematic bug abuse" and "clever use of game mechanics".
2020-09-01 00:39
#905
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Europe im_we
If external software is used, then it's not part of the game. Otherwise, it is.
2020-09-01 11:36
TACO: "Astralis players are using a bug to see through smokes, I have no proof but I just know!" MIBR's coach: *abuses bug to freely see a spot they shouldn't be able to*
2020-08-31 23:36
1 reply
lmao imagine being MIBR rn
2020-08-31 23:46
hahaha
2020-08-31 23:36
expected, I mean that some guys are cheating, not exactly the bug itself
2020-08-31 23:38
#490
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Turkey onuRRRR
wrong game to play chyper KEKW
2020-08-31 23:38
3 replies
HAHAHAH +1
2020-08-31 23:40
great reference, a perfect 5/7
2020-09-01 01:18
1 reply
#1041
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Turkey onuRRRR
ty m8
2020-09-01 17:02
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
2020-08-31 23:38
#492
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Brazil LCgg
WTFFFFFFFFF
2020-08-31 23:39
mb try to fix game lol wtf
2020-08-31 23:39
HUNDEN should be banned for life. I retract everytime I have claimed GODHUNDEN. I can't understand why he would risk his position and income as a coach, what will the man do now? Flip burgers?
2020-08-31 23:40
4 replies
these guys really don't understand reward/risk ratio
2020-08-31 23:42
#557
REZ | 
Sweden jackir
are you mentally ill? imean ofc you are, you're swedish he didnt use it in cologne, and won it does fuckall to his legacy
2020-09-01 00:12
1 reply
Did I say he did?
2020-09-01 00:27
flip burgers hahahahaha
2020-09-01 11:29
"Only pussies try to win no matter what" - Two Faced Toledo. "I won't discuss about moral values with a matchfixer" - dead "I have never benefited from an injustice and never been absent from one". - Fer (At least this one is true, since they cheated and lost, lmao). Funny when these trash demand respect.
2020-08-31 23:42
3 replies
respectful Brazilian
2020-08-31 23:43
+1
2020-08-31 23:43
#650
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Brazil oldStar
+1
2020-09-01 02:14
After they were accusing Chaos of cheating ahahhahah, what a joke of a scene and team tbh.
2020-08-31 23:42
#502
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Albania wedboi
HEROIC SHOULD GIVE OVER COLOGNE WIN TO VITALITY!
2020-08-31 23:42
Imagine being MIBR right now accusing a 16 yr old for cheating while they are doing it themselfs lmao
2020-08-31 23:46
thought GODHUNDEN died for like 5 seconds lol
2020-08-31 23:47
1 reply
lol same
2020-08-31 23:58
#518
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Poland morosek
HOLY SHIT
2020-08-31 23:49
XD
2020-08-31 23:49
Deserved, there was one Brazilian in HLTV who said: “ESL gave dead the right to do that” LMFAO Edit: Have a good day!
2020-08-31 23:50
expected from hunden
2020-08-31 23:55
wtf
2020-08-31 23:55
what about sprout? they played whole cologne suspicious as fuck, rotations were off..... then regular top10 teams played each other and nothing suspicious was happening.
2020-08-31 23:56
7 replies
ESL One Cologne demos are all clean
2020-09-01 00:01
6 replies
#541
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Brazil sakaaa
Hey dude. Do you have any information as to how this affects HLTV rankings?
2020-09-01 00:02
1 reply
I don't know yet
2020-09-01 00:10
are you absolutely sure of that?
2020-09-01 01:02
2 replies
what even is that question lmao
2020-09-01 02:05
1 reply
it's a perfectly valid question.. to a lot of people csgo is a failing e-sport, rightly so.. too many cheaters and VAC doesn't work. it's these very things that i have mentioned that give credibility to my question.
2020-09-01 02:20
Why are you thinking so?
2020-09-01 10:16
Mibr cheated and still was so awful?? Wtf..
2020-08-31 23:57
#527
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Turkey Slapdash
KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
2020-08-31 23:57
KEKW
2020-08-31 23:58
dammmmmmm :(
2020-08-31 23:58
ahaha omg
2020-08-31 23:59
First of all using bugs is not cheating, second so lets ban Olof,BIG,Xyp,Glave,Fnatic and any other team or pro that used bugs to their advantage. Stupid call.
2020-08-31 23:59
9 replies
Well, fnatic was infact punished for it. Plus there is a huge difference between player bugs and spect bugs.
2020-09-01 00:09
6 replies
IF theres a bug you fix it, no point punishing users as its not their fault it exists.
2020-09-01 00:13
5 replies
it is their fault if they exploiting it
2020-09-01 00:16
2 replies
+1
2020-09-01 00:22
There are so many bugs glitches etc in this game and almost everybody uses them. Right side peeks being faster then left side, crouch movement faster than shots, crouch spraying with 90% accurate, being able to see in smoke faster when it fades than somebody outside. Valve is practicly tryin to show how heavy hand they got while most pros are locking people in every other game. Ridiculous at best.
2020-09-01 14:56
They obviously knew this will be punished. It is an unfair advantage. This case is not similar to the BIG bug abuse. Esports is full of forbidden bugs anyways. So its not like this is a new situation. In 1.6 tournaments, the rules specified, what you can use and what not.
2020-09-01 00:23
if there's an ingame bug that allows players to intentionally disable smokes, "no sense in punishing for it?" kek.
2020-09-01 14:10
That is pretty crazy... I see a player abusing bugs to be much worse. Something like the fnatic peak.... If this level of punishment was applied it would have been like multi-year ban for the likes of Olof and others.... There have been multiple bugs abused over the years, and this seems like a really heavy punishment compared to other punishments that seemed far more impactful. It;s one thing to make a team forfeit a match, and lose the tournament/prize and player not really punished, and then another member of a team gets 6mo/2y ban lol I think its crazy since this bug has been there supposedly for multiple years and it's not like using a hack or colluding to "throw matches". But hey..."cheating is cheating" in the end i guess
2020-09-01 00:44
#904
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Europe im_we
+1 If no external software was used, then this is part of the game. Simple as that.
2020-09-01 11:34
im personally shocked, i cant believe somebody accused and wrongfully banned GOD HUNDEN :(
2020-09-01 00:00
1 reply
sure
2020-09-01 00:15
HAHAHHAHAHA HEROIC WOULD NEVER WIN AGAINST G2 ezezezzezezezezzezezezez
2020-09-01 00:01
1 reply
xd but heroic never use bug in esl so plz dont tell that players are bad ... i still think that this heroic lineup is sick and gonna show at next touni 🤟#nohate to g2
2020-09-01 00:05
Holy sh%t. Now that is some next level dirty game dead is a shame and the hole only gets deeper. From an AMA yesterday with terrible answers to being banned and suspended from mibr today. Well, as he wasn't a proper coach, mibr won't miss them. Also, that was the last dirt shovel in mibr's major chances, RIP
2020-09-01 00:03
#547
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Poland STARWHITE
No place for cheaters. Fuck you all...
2020-09-01 00:06
dead scene
2020-09-01 00:07
Hope they all get caught! This is not acceptable in 2020!
2020-09-01 00:08
2 replies
Another year it would be totally fine yeah?
2020-09-01 00:23
1 reply
it had to be totally fine since the day i started following cs matches which was 2002, so it had to be fine since then, but especially by 2020, so everyone who does any sort of abuse to get an advantage still to this day in 2020 must be punished/banned/fined, whatever the case might be!
2020-09-01 00:26
r i p
2020-09-01 00:08
Jesus. Unexpected.
2020-09-01 00:14
MiBR cheated and still lost 16-1 to Mald Lions on train
2020-09-01 00:14
expected from mibr cheaters
2020-09-01 00:14
These punishments really are out of proportion. iBP fixes a match and gets banned for life. Hard Legion basically cheats off 3 matches in a major qualifier and only their coach gets a 2 year ban???? I get, that banning the players would be harsh, but at least ban their coach for life from all Valve events. Hunden 2 years ban at least. Tbh I would give the benefit of doubt for dead. He used it for one round? What is the point of that? Obviously only the admins know, when he used it. If at a crucial point in the match, half a year is good enough.
2020-09-01 00:16
3 replies
#918
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Finland JooonsMO
Valve handed those lifetime bans for IBP, these coaching bans are handed by ESL. Valve hasn't taken action yet. IBP got 2,5 year bans from ESL.
2020-09-01 11:55
2 replies
Thanks, man! You are right. Still I think there is a big imbalance between zoner getting 2 years for cheating during 6 maps and iBP getting 2,5y for 1 matchfix. Imo both actions are similarly bad in terms of ruining the trust in esports integrity.
2020-09-01 12:29
1 reply
#942
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Finland JooonsMO
IBP was 1st to get banned from match fixing and ESL didn't know what to do so they gave them indefinite ban. At some point ESL started to reevaluate IBP bans and deemed that they have suffered enough and unbanned them. IDK what to think about zoner's ban but to me it's at least not too long ban. Now ESL rule for matchfixing is: Results voided, 5 year ban unless significant mitigating factors in line with the ESIC Anti-Corruption Code or, in the presence of aggravating circumstances, a longer ban, forfeiture of prize money and monetary fine (if discovered before the end of a tournament, disqualification).
2020-09-01 12:37
MIBR CHEATED AND STILL GOT STOMPED LMFAO BYE BYE BANANAS
2020-09-01 00:15
Lost all respect i had from Hunden.
2020-09-01 00:19
unexpected
2020-09-01 00:20
Wow.. Heroic feeling on top of the world, the next day their coach gets banned for cheating..
2020-09-01 00:22
1 reply
Heroic knew cauz if coach use bug he must tell his team the information
2020-09-01 02:16
Fix the fuc**** game and ban your developers gaben
2020-09-01 00:22
XDDD
2020-09-01 00:25
This sucks for them ngl But WTF? Dead used the bug and Mibr still got recked by Tier 4 Europe Teams? Dude this is dumb...
2020-09-01 00:25
for the sake of these organizations, they must be fire inmediatly these coachs.
2020-09-01 00:29
#583
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Denmark Ulver
This bug is apparently ancient (at least May 2018). There must be countless of cases where it has been used :/ twitter.com/deLongeMVP/status/9963649160..
2020-09-01 00:30
2 replies
whole scene rigged kekw
2020-09-01 02:02
online yes, but on LAN the bug has no impact
2020-09-01 02:36
imagine serving 6 months ban for 1 round :DDDDDDDDDD its rigged
2020-09-01 00:31
2 replies
yea taht was dumb, it looks more like dead used it by accident. just 1 round on 1 map, i think just a 1 month ban is more than enough.
2020-09-01 00:33
1 reply
No lol.
2020-09-01 00:36
#2 team
2020-09-01 00:32
#589
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Portugal astacp
shi* game banning people on the scene for bugs they are responsible for. also dont forget to ban astralis for the smoke bug abuse for god knows how many rounds.
2020-09-01 00:35
1 reply
thats what i tho also, everyone will try to make advantage over others. Its not hunden fault or anyother coach lol its freaking valve with bugs still in 2020k LMAO
2020-09-01 01:22
#591
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Finland dokudanny
fucking ban these cheaters from any upcoming competitions? it makes me sick how Heroic can cheat and smile after a rigged game
2020-09-01 00:36
1 reply
#596
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Slovakia Daev0n
Maybe read the article before you open your mouth?
2020-09-01 00:37
#593
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Slovakia Daev0n
Is the ban measured from the time when the exploit was used? Or from the day they got caught?
2020-09-01 00:37
#594
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United States xiquo
This is so disappointing... i will never say god hunden again.
2020-09-01 00:37
Lol so weird
2020-09-01 00:38
1 reply
#717
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Europe Cirros_V2
Ikr? Hunden is dead and everyone is talking about some dumb bug
2020-09-01 04:26
North didn't know about this bug, that's fair to assume.
2020-09-01 00:44
Lack of character is impressive. Zews god.
2020-09-01 00:45
XDDDDDDDDDDDD
2020-09-01 00:46
How do they prove so far in the past that coaches were using the bug????
2020-09-01 00:56
3 replies
#652
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African Union mikecool
Demos record everything that players and coaches were up to during the games. You just need to analyze them thoroughly.
2020-09-01 02:15
2 replies
peepothink Didnt know demo contains what coach does lol
2020-09-01 09:35
1 reply
#877
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African Union mikecool
Pretty sure it captured everything aye ;) there is no escape!
2020-09-01 10:51
oh dear..
2020-09-01 01:16
Oh my lord wtf
2020-09-01 01:19
but everyone will used this i dont see why is fault of HUNDEN or anyone else? Its ur f fault Valve, because game still sucks not others. Jesus christ
2020-09-01 01:21
5 replies
no, you shouldn't use bugs and exploits. It's part of the esports rules Other people knew about it, but didn't use it. That's called ethics
2020-09-01 01:25
3 replies
well, actually it's valve's fault since it's a bug (not a hacks). But, it's the coach's fault to keep quiet about it. Hence, the ban
2020-09-01 01:31
2 replies
that's an exploit, just like the olofboost Part of the rules #618
2020-09-01 01:41
1 reply
that's my point. keep quiet and continue using the bug = bug exploit
2020-09-01 01:43
Now that's a smooth brain take. This is the same as saying that cheating is ok, because it is possible.
2020-09-01 01:28
LOL
2020-09-01 01:23
I met hunden in London during the Faceit Major. He came out of a bush and joined me and my friends on our walk to mcdonalds. Whilst we were walking to the mcd he was bragging about how he taught gla1ve everything he knew. Got a picture with him where he made fun of my fnatic jersey. At mcdonalds he took like 10 packs of ketchup. Nice guy. He was pretty drunk.
2020-09-01 01:25
3 replies
taught gla1ve cheating? cool story
2020-09-01 05:05
hahahahahhhh))
2020-09-01 17:37
underrated
2020-09-03 19:02
Why only coaches?
2020-09-01 01:26
2 replies
aparently its a glitch that only affected coaches the players are 'fine', well as fine as you can be if you knew about the cheating anyway, if they didnt ehh, sucks for them i guess
2020-09-01 03:27
1 reply
i am pretty sure they knew
2020-09-01 08:41
Explains alot of how they rolled everyone lol
2020-09-01 01:27
heroic was lucky that the punishment is given after ESL Cologne. If the punishment was given before cologne started, then heroic would play cologne without coach or they should find a stand-in coach (if possible) and that can alter the Cologne results. (and yes i know the article said it has been fixed before cologne started)
2020-09-01 01:28
1 reply
Heroic is lucky that this particular glitch was on fixed before cologne... There was another way to still do this on twitter last week though... Nevertheless, this is an unfortunate stain to get on their victory, everyone will remember this incident when thinking about their Cologne run
2020-09-01 01:34
#625
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Germany reicH_
what if he used it online at ESL one cologne??? no one can proof that. Now it smells fishy to me
2020-09-01 01:32
1 reply
#627, just below this comment
2020-09-01 01:34
twitter.com/RyanAtRBM/status/13005707782.. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL Dead f*cked up big time rofl.
2020-09-01 01:33
2 replies
Lol mibr about to get banned from cs_summit too lmao
2020-09-01 01:35
#682
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World breezy0
/facepalm
2020-09-01 03:20
#631
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United Kingdom _xC4ctus
MIBR DISBAND PLS
2020-09-01 01:36
Drop the Ban Hammer on all Teams involved. We don't need Teams like this in our game ! Ban the fucking lot.
2020-09-01 01:39
1 reply
It's not the players or the organizations who cheated, I doubt the coaches went like: "HEY GUYS I CAN SEE WHOLE A SITE"
2020-09-01 04:18
#636
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Hong Kong TROIIDA
Ofc mibr is involved, scummiest players to ever touch cs
2020-09-01 01:48
que vergonha da mibr, falam falam mas não tem nada a dizer
2020-09-01 02:06
1 reply
#849
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Brazil wololo10
Don't worry Fer will do a live cursing Furia's lack of sportsmanship XDDDDD
2020-09-01 09:33
MIBR LOST WITH CHEATS AHAHAHAHAHAHA
2020-09-01 02:08
#647
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Brazil Vini007
Now MIBR will improve lol
2020-09-01 02:11
#648
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African Union mikecool
This is pretty crazy man. Did not expect anyone to be cheating like this at all. Swift ban hammers coming out to sour everything that's happened so recently too. How bittersweet.
2020-09-01 02:11
#649
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Brazil oldStar
Made In Joke !
2020-09-01 02:13
#654
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Indonesia Journeast
Such a bitter irony, MIBR.
2020-09-01 02:16
MIBR fans be like "It was just 1 round" KKKKKKKKKK also RIP HUNDUN
2020-09-01 02:23
MIBR should disband, cheating and still being absolute dogshit shouldn't be tolerated by an org with such a huge following and budget.
2020-09-01 02:24
L 😂 L
2020-09-01 02:29
not my cologne champ
2020-09-01 02:31
9 replies
#677
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Sweden flippig
+1
2020-09-01 02:42
They didn't use it in Cologne you brainlet
2020-09-01 03:28
5 replies
tainted victory
2020-09-01 03:44
#705
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Denmark Alphamon
That's not what he claimed
2020-09-01 04:09
should have been before esl
2020-09-01 05:07
undeserved win bunch of losers
2020-09-01 05:54
1 reply
ok stay mad your team didn't make playoffs bitch
2020-09-01 17:13
+1
2020-09-01 05:06
+1
2020-09-01 05:54
D: someone should check BIG, because they won some matches recently and you know what NO BUG = NO BIG
2020-09-01 02:41
1 reply
They probably have already
2020-09-01 11:20
#676
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Czech Republic PaYaB
If they took away their money, they'll for sure take away their RMR points aswell, it wouldn't make sence the other way.
2020-09-01 02:42
6 replies
dont give a fuck about rmr points, there will be no major this year, its time to understand this for a long time and just stop talking about major and lans
2020-09-01 02:47
4 replies
#919
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Finland JooonsMO
Even if there is no major this year these points could still determine teams who will play in next years major....
2020-09-01 11:57
3 replies
mb yes, mb now. anyway even more chances for earning points. although this system in online rmr points is bullshit, lans 4ever.
2020-09-01 12:23
2 replies
#936
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Finland JooonsMO
why is it bullshit? I think its much better than what we had before. if you just mean online then my answer is because corona...
2020-09-01 12:25
1 reply
cuz many online teams will not be able to show the same result on lan
2020-09-01 16:58
#920
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Finland JooonsMO
ESL took their money. Valve decides what happens to RMR points.
2020-09-01 11:57
#679
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Brazil Gaiolero
Made in BadaRas
2020-09-01 02:53
1 reply
What is that?
2020-09-01 04:38
HUNDEN IS GOD UNBAN HIM
2020-09-01 03:24
4 replies
WAS*
2020-09-01 03:32
3 replies
#716
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Europe Cirros_V2
Yeah and now hunden dead
2020-09-01 04:23
#731
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Denmark Menterx
+1
2020-09-01 04:56
HUNDEN TOP 1 DELET THIS
2020-09-02 01:27
just disband plz, you guys are a joke to the mibr tag
2020-09-01 03:36
mibr call leaf and xeppa cheaters when theyre the real cheaters LUL
2020-09-01 03:49
#697
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Brazil Feio91
When u realize that Peacemaker and Zews reported the glitch you gonna sh1t bricks. BRASIL TOP1
2020-09-01 03:54
mibr why don't you just kill yourselves already. it's not like this is the first time.
2020-09-01 03:55
unexpected af from GOD HUNDEN
2020-09-01 04:00
1 reply
#725
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Denmark Menterx
+1 not cool
2020-09-01 04:38
So MIBR cheats and still lose this bad? Bruh
2020-09-01 04:04
#703
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Europe t.o.p
Hahahahaha
2020-09-01 04:06
MIBR are confirmed cheaters...ajajajajajajaj
2020-09-01 04:11
1 reply
That will be added to their excuse ... We didn't know what was happening we were out of our mind . We couldn't focus on gameplay
2020-09-01 06:11
#709
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South America ZyvvOo
HUNDEN to valorant
2020-09-01 04:17
Banned for using it one one round?? Nothing gained all lost .
2020-09-01 04:19
1 reply
#713
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Europe Cirros_V2
Hunden is dead and everyone is talking about some bug
2020-09-01 04:20
#712
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Europe Cirros_V2
Rest in peace hunden. But i still think it should be a different articale dedicated to hunden being dead.
2020-09-01 04:19
WTF :D
2020-09-01 04:27
mibr got double rekt
2020-09-01 04:29
Ok, so why the don't ban players as well ?
2020-09-01 04:34
4 replies
I'm with u on this. They were aware so yay
2020-09-01 06:18
+1 All players should be banned as well or receive some sort of punishment.
2020-09-01 07:32
2 replies
It's not like the players installed cheats on their machine unlike other players, players who should be lifetime banned. Installing cheats is way worse than bug abuse. Anyway, he could easily have, and probably have to protect them, hidden the bug abuse from them.
2020-09-01 08:33
#901
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Europe im_we
How can you prove the players were even aware of this?
2020-09-01 11:29
astralis era explained
2020-09-01 04:36
#726
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Denmark Menterx
So disappointing...
2020-09-01 04:39
so long punishments, in finland you dont get 2 years for stealing 50k so you wont even see prison
2020-09-01 04:41
AXAXAXA AXAXAXAXA AXAXAXAXAXA
2020-09-01 04:53
I forgive hunden.
2020-09-01 05:01
DOG HUNDEN lmao
2020-09-01 05:04
1 reply
#783
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Sweden fastflop
Hundens name is literally "the dog" in swedish
2020-09-01 07:01
Vitality died for this
2020-09-01 05:15
AXAXXXAXAXAXA WTF
2020-09-01 05:38
ahh, hunden.. hunden..
2020-09-01 05:58
#760
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Lithuania Edze
MY MENS HUNDEN, BUT MIBR THO CANT WIN WITH HACKS XDDDDDDDDD
2020-09-01 06:00
god hunden. literally.
2020-09-01 06:04
bunch of losers
2020-09-01 06:05
BIG probably paid ESL off xD. Real final should be G2 vs Vitality Players are similarly responsible for this as they were definitely aware of their coach cheating cause he was calling lmao. I'm sure BIG was involved in this too.
2020-09-01 06:08
As a dane i am so disapointed in hunden. But like everybody else he should be punished and in my opinion this is just like using WH if youre a player. If steel and the guys from iBP got permanently banned then should he. The same goes for the russian guy but dead did it one round? Can never know if it was a mistake or not
2020-09-01 06:17
1 reply
#961
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Brunei cyLoL
Not a mistake he couldn’t let MiBR go 16-0 again LMaO
2020-09-01 13:24
HAHAHAHA! And you're telling me that Heroic won ESL without any bug-usage? Hmmmmmmmmm
2020-09-01 06:31
1 reply
#778
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Hungary Opahm
Yes, they did. Learn to read please. Thanks.
2020-09-01 06:52
Lmfao mibr cheated and still lost 1-16 to MALD Lions on Train, probably that 1 round they won was the 1 round dead used the cheat to avoid another 0-16 in MIBR's cabinet
2020-09-01 06:38
#774
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Europe letqpena
Wisla Krakow fucks MIBR up again.
2020-09-01 06:43
most of people here can't read properly - it was before esl one cologne (on dreamhack) btw. another irrelevant witch hunt like ibp , they better take care about cheaters in tier 1/2 or matchfixers in tier3/4 scene (pl/cis) ; p
2020-09-01 06:44
PHAHAHHAHAHAHA MiBR CAN'T WIN WITH GLITCHES, HEROIC USELESS SINCE IT STARTED EXISTING, FINDS BUG SUDDENLY WINS COLOGNE LULW KEKW
2020-09-01 06:44
2 replies
Nice you didnt read the article
2020-09-01 07:17
1 reply
Flag checks out
2020-09-01 13:21
LOL
2020-09-01 07:00
#782
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Sweden fastflop
What if this was used against g2 in semis? Then we will replay grandfinals g2 vs vitality
2020-09-01 07:00
3 replies
Are you talking to yourself?
2020-09-01 07:03
1 reply
#795
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Sweden fastflop
No
2020-09-01 07:28
#959
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Brunei cyLoL
Nope just a delusion but nt
2020-09-01 13:22
#784
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Finland R3ALMM
Bruh I read the title like Hunden dead
2020-09-01 07:02
G2 - top 1 ESL One Colonge 2020 and HLTV
2020-09-01 07:06
lmfao your godhunden exposed, all flesh and blood, cheating human scum
2020-09-01 07:12
1 reply
#837
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France cedd
this bug was fixed before cologne, the cologne win was legit
2020-09-01 09:12
Wtf
2020-09-01 07:16
Sad day for csgo lovers.
2020-09-01 07:21
The true responsible is valve
2020-09-01 07:21
mibr lmao...
2020-09-01 07:24
Bullshit.. HUNDEN already has that vision.
2020-09-01 07:28
1 reply
God is allseeing
2020-09-01 08:18
when eliminated team's coach spoiled lul
2020-09-01 07:31
rip heroic now they have no chance to win any tournament unless he gets unbannned xD
2020-09-01 07:34
STILL GOD HUNDEN
2020-09-01 07:34
Who the hell cares if this was used during or before Cologne??? Fact of the matter is they are cheating scum. For all we know they could be manipulating the radar or feeding intel to their players in other ways. Once a cheater always a cheater. Why has valve not commented on this matter?
2020-09-01 07:34
1 reply
Because it's bad for business, just like all the aimlock accusations.
2020-09-01 12:44
Envious loser coach of Wisla tries to smear Hunden’s good name. FUCK OFF!
2020-09-01 07:34
So the bettors that betted against Heroic are justified to be mad?
2020-09-01 07:35
#806
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Germany Bier
Oh no Hunden, why.. i was a big fan of you :/
2020-09-01 07:41
Hunden :(
2020-09-01 07:58
Pog
2020-09-01 08:02
#813
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France laglory
Competetive CS LMAO
2020-09-01 08:14
Remember - Valve has decided not to act on the matter, so most likely the proof are vague
2020-09-01 08:19
1 reply
The only time valve ever responded was when players from their own country for caught up in matchfixing. Why are you defending cheating scum. Shame on you
2020-09-01 08:28
How it is determined if bug is fair to abuse or not? I dont see how it's fair to ban anyone for abusing things that are part of the game.
2020-09-01 08:21
16 replies
#827
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Finland Goble81
Just like it is not fair to cut a corner or chicane in Formula1 even when the shortcut is part of the track area. And coaches had to do certain things to abuse the bug and those coaches have been proven to do so (constantly disconnect-reconnect trying to get the bug popup, rotating the camera when the bug popped up etc).
2020-09-01 08:38
15 replies
#903
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Europe im_we
So what, cutting corners is explicitly banned, reconnecting isn't.
2020-09-01 11:31
14 replies
#957
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Brunei cyLoL
If you are reconnecting every round to try for the big you are just as bad as cheater jamppi
2020-09-01 13:20
13 replies
#962
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Europe im_we
No, reconnects are part of the game engine. Hacks are not.
2020-09-01 13:29
12 replies
#966
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Brunei cyLoL
Are you not using your brain if you are just reconnecting to get the bug you should be banned just like a cheater. You are knowingly trying to exploit the game at that point sorry for your 0 iq
2020-09-01 13:34
11 replies
#967
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Europe im_we
Yeah sure, It's the same as if I discovered a new boost and tried hard with my teammates to use it in the game.
2020-09-01 13:35
10 replies
#969
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Brunei cyLoL
Oh wait Fnatic did that and forfeited their match admitting it was exploiting stop acting dumb plz you are not making it better for yourself
2020-09-01 13:43
9 replies
#970
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Europe im_we
Yeah, that's retarded too. People discover new spams in 1.6 to this day. Nobody with a sane mind would ever think they should get banned for it.
2020-09-01 13:44
8 replies
#973
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Brunei cyLoL
Spams in 1.6 aren’t exploits its called wall bangs but nt they were part of the game , pixel walking and using a bug to have a overview of a bomb site is the same as cheating and I’m glad esl is finally taking a stand against it. If you really think a coach should be able to have a overview of a site you are delusional and should go get yourself checked out by a doctor.
2020-09-01 13:50
7 replies
#975
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Europe im_we
Lol no. Those who made those maps had no idea those spams existed. They started being used years after the maps were finished and added to the game.
2020-09-01 13:51
6 replies
#977
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Brunei cyLoL
Again “wall bangs” in 1.6 are not exploits but keep trying bud I’m sorry you have no logical argument here. Exploiting a bug in the game to get a overview of a bomb site should net you a ban as a coach. Until you use logic I’m done with this convo.
2020-09-01 13:58
5 replies
#982
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Europe im_we
Wallbangs weren't even used at all in the early days of Counter-Strike. It was perhaps around when 1.3 came out where players started to explore that avenue of the game. Implying that Jo Bieg who made de_nuke for CS beta 4.0 (with all the wallbangs already being there) knew how this map would be played in 2010 1.6 major is just insane.
2020-09-01 14:09
4 replies
#983
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Brunei cyLoL
That is why I stated 1.6 not 1.3 your reading comprehension is impeccable.
2020-09-01 14:10
#985
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Brunei cyLoL
Having played from 1.1 on I understand what you are saying but you gotta read what was posted before you post yourself never said anything about 1.3.
2020-09-01 14:11
They didn't check all the wallbangs, but wallbangs was part of the game from very begginning I remember how it was pretty amazing to shot through box on Aztec or double doors, that was something new back then compared to other games.
2020-09-01 16:03
1 reply
#1014
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Europe im_we
Define very beginning to us, CS 1.3?
2020-09-01 16:05
#821
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Sweden hausmanis
mibr cheated several maps and still sucked ???
2020-09-01 08:28
#825
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Serbia LtN))
Lost all respect for hunden mibr cheated and still getting rekt KEKW
2020-09-01 08:35
Did I understand correctly, coach could see his team and also opponents behind the smokes, from above?
2020-09-01 08:39
God HUNDEN can see everything that we cannot. This is why we call him as a GOD.
2020-09-01 08:48
6months for one round ? too much
2020-09-01 08:49
1 reply
#955
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Brunei cyLoL
No he should get lifetime cuz it’s not the first time he do something wrong , he was stream snipe before also
2020-09-01 13:17
how dare you banning GOD HUNDEN , you will receive gods' punishments for this ESL
2020-09-01 08:59
#834
Dosia | 
Russia Rapu
What a stupid thing to punish for a bug in the game. I'm waiting for Astralis to be punished for abuse a bug with radar.
2020-09-01 09:06
9 replies
they abused a bug to get an advantage over their opponent, deserved ban
2020-09-01 09:15
7 replies
#841
Dosia | 
Russia Rapu
What about Astralis? I think they should be punished too, they did the same thing, but with a different bug.
2020-09-01 09:18
6 replies
just link the bug? what are you talking about?
2020-09-01 09:37
5 replies
#852
Dosia | 
Russia Rapu
just type in the search: 'smoke/radar bug csgo' youtube.com/watch?v=5Es9icoQoLs
2020-09-01 09:40
4 replies
there is 1 clip of glave killling through smoke? rest of the videos shows only frags of north vs ence? wtf?
2020-09-01 09:46
3 replies
#968
Dosia | 
Russia Rapu
We see that Gla1ve kills the enemy by looking at the corner of his monitor, not at the center. Is this using a bug? Yes. Astralis first started using this bug, but then it was used by others. What else did you want to see? :)
2020-09-01 13:37
2 replies
its not their fucking fault the game is broken
2020-09-01 16:13
1 reply
Exactly! Obviously, the coaches are also not to blame for using a game bug that is available to anyone else.
2020-09-01 18:03
#897
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Europe im_we
+1 It's part of the game. It's not like external software was used to achieve this.
2020-09-01 11:24
HUNDEN stole Cologne from Vitality or G2. Shame ...
2020-09-01 09:06
9 replies
nah, it wasn't used in cologne, as far as we know
2020-09-01 09:14
8 replies
HA HA HA HA HA ya, ofc :)
2020-09-01 10:57
7 replies
that's why i said as far as we know
2020-09-01 11:04
6 replies
Re-watch the grand final again, the heroics always knew what did vitality do same with G2.
2020-09-01 11:48
5 replies
#953
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Brunei cyLoL
Cry is free
2020-09-01 13:17
4 replies
Potato brain :)
2020-09-01 15:17
3 replies
#1001
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Brunei cyLoL
Yes you are, I’m glad you realized it.
2020-09-01 15:20
congrats on having #1000
2020-09-01 17:05
#1054
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