Heroic suspend HUNDEN following ban

Nicolai "⁠HUNDEN⁠" Petersen has confirmed that he used the coaching bug exploit in two matches and accepted the one-year ban handed to him, with Heroic suspending him effective immediately.

Following their internal investigation, Heroic have come out and announced their findings regarding HUNDEN and the ban handed to him by ESL and ESIC due to the abuse of the coaching bug.

The 29-year-old Dane admitted to using the exploit in 10 rounds of a game against Astralis during DreamHack Masters Spring (19-16, 16-14 loss) and in 13 rounds in a game against Spirit in the Home Sweet Home Cup S5 (16-13, 16-5 win), and accepts the reprecussions that follow.

HUNDEN admitted to using the coach bug against Astralis and Spirit

"CS:GO at the top level is super competitive and I saw an edge which I knew was wrong, but I took it and used the bug in-game" HUNDEN said in the statement, adding that he acted on his own, "without the knowledge of my teammates".

The coach added that he felt remorse for his actions and decided to contact Michau Slowinski, the freelance referee, to explain how the bug works. "I knew it would have professional and personal ramifications for me.", HUNDEN adds.

"I am sorry for letting down Heroic, my family and all of our fans. I only want the best for the Counter Strike community, and my actions during these two games are something that are not part of the community I want and love."

Similarly to Hard Legion, Heroic claim that the players were unaware of the coach using an exploit: "Heroic has, after carefully reviewing recordings of these matches, no reason to believe the players of our team were by any means aware or complicit to this bug abuse".

With HUNDEN suspended from the team, Heroic are now coachless:

Denmark Casper "⁠cadiaN⁠" Møller
Denmark Johannes "⁠b0RUP⁠" Borup
Denmark Martin "⁠stavn⁠" Lund
Denmark Nikolaj "⁠niko⁠" Kristensen
Denmark René "⁠TeSeS⁠" Madsen

HUNDEN's full statement is available below:

"The recent allegations made against me are true. I take full responsibility for my actions during the Dreamhack Masters tournament and the HomeSweetHomeCup 5. CS:GO at the top level is super competitive and I saw an edge which I knew was wrong, but I took it and used the bug in-game. I acted on my own, without the knowledge of my teammates.

"I felt remorse for my decision, and I still do, but realised that I could never take back my actions. Therefore I decided to contact Michau Slowinski, the ESL Admin, to explain the bug that was a part of the game at the time. I knew it would have professional and personal ramifications for me.

"I am sorry for letting down Heroic, my family and all of our fans. I only want the best for the Counter Strike community, and my actions during these two games are something that are not part of the community I want and love.

"I accept my punishment but have hope you will welcome me back to the stage one day.

"My sincerest apologies, HUNDEN."

Denmark René 'TeSeS' Madsen
René 'TeSeS' Madsen
Age:
19
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
521
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.13
Denmark Martin 'stavn' Lund
Martin 'stavn' Lund
Age:
18
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
814
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.14
Denmark Nicolai 'HUNDEN' Petersen
Nicolai 'HUNDEN' Petersen
Age:
29
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.81
Maps played:
1578
KPR:
0.55
DPR:
0.70
APR:
0.14
Denmark Nikolaj 'niko' Kristensen
Nikolaj 'niko' Kristensen
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
988
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.13
Denmark Johannes 'b0RUP' Borup
Johannes 'b0RUP' Borup
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
1085
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.12
Denmark Casper 'cadiaN' Møller
Casper 'cadiaN' Møller
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
1165
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.11
Hahaha rip
2020-09-01 17:30
hltv.org/matches/2341022/astralis-vs-her.. hltv.org/matches/2341601/heroic-vs-spiri.. games he used it in according to article, for those who interested
2020-09-01 17:31
hunden takes da L
2020-09-01 17:31
WHAT
2020-09-01 17:32
#56
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Finland AleksiBOT
RIP Hunden :(
2020-09-01 17:35
NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIIIIIIIIIIIN
2020-09-01 17:36
Heroic back to tier 2 sad
2020-09-02 00:36
dont get me wrong but heroic never been tier 1.
2020-09-02 10:48
ESPORTS READY GAME... #FREEHUNDEN
2020-09-01 17:49
rip
2020-09-01 17:34
they were the first to suspend him twitter.com/mibr/status/1300538377092173..
2020-09-01 17:33
#74
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Brunei cyLoL
Who car
2020-09-01 17:38
he edited, he was shitting on mibr for not suspending dead
2020-09-01 17:39
#76
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Brunei cyLoL
Oh, well I salute you my br friend I’m glad you don’t stand for this type of action
2020-09-01 17:40
Lmaooo you edited
2020-09-01 17:44
From a god to a meme :((
2020-09-01 17:32
Nice of you to find those links. Thanks
2020-09-01 17:47
And still lost against Astralis LMAO! gtfo old dog
2020-09-02 19:27
LOL
2020-09-01 17:31
Ban whole team.
2020-09-01 17:34
#67
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Spain N0Love
Nt
2020-09-01 17:37
Don't nother - that will not make a difference for G2. They need to play better, simple as that.
2020-09-02 17:29
#69
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Belgium Im_new
rip but deserved
2020-09-01 17:38
lier
2020-09-01 17:48
#241
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Denmark bQssa
hahahaha their "victory" went south fast
2020-09-01 19:06
They won cologne legit?
2020-09-01 21:42
#357
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India markOreo
Yes
2020-09-01 22:31
ok hater
2020-09-01 22:26
When is -dead
2020-09-01 17:30
twitter.com/mibr/status/1300538377092173.. HUNDEN is not kicked. HUNDEN is suspended, just like Dead is
2020-09-01 17:32
Dead's contesting tho Also he's still training with mibr (source: taco's instagram)
2020-09-01 17:42
Of course he is lol, hes trying to save his ass. HUNDEN confessed, so should Dead.
2020-09-01 17:43
If he wanted to cheat why do it only 1 round, let's be honest i like laughing at MIBR but I think that this is underserved ban.
2020-09-01 17:56
Well...we dont know if its more rounds or not, because Michal have not been through all games/POVs yet. Also, Yes, the ban Dead got was insanely long i suppose. HUNDEN and the Russian guy deserved the long bans 100%, but, Dead maybe could have gotten a shorter ban, like 2-3 months. But, i obv understand ESL/Dreamhack, they want to "scare" other coaches etc to not do this shit. But i think its insane that Valve hasnt fixed this 100% yet, that is beyond crazy.
2020-09-01 17:59
They suspect dead use it many more times but they were able to prove only that one. That is main reason he also got long ban.
2020-09-01 20:32
Yeah. But i think Michal will look more POV:s now so maybe he gets even longer ban.
2020-09-01 20:36
I think what is important is that dead refuses to confess, meanwhile Hunden did bust himself and he worked with ESL.
2020-09-02 14:32
Well yeah, but its good that HUNDEN stepped up and confessed. Dead should as well. Because its not the first time he does something shady like this. Not long ago he was looking at tournament stream to see economy etc from enemy team lol.
2020-09-02 14:34
It is not only one round. It is at least one round.
2020-09-01 18:31
2020-09-01 18:43
The thing is that if it would happen to you, would you stand still or move around ? Like what would you do ? I for sure even if not saying anything on the chat would have looked everywhere to see how the round is going.
2020-09-01 20:49
You must be Brazilian, they only found 1 so far, thousands of demos left to watch, fake flagger bruh
2020-09-01 20:46
Si tu veux savoir si je suis brésilien ou pas demande moi la signification de n'importe quel mot en français alors. Merde tu viens du népal, tu capte r de r ducoup soit tu peux pas me rep, soit c'est toi le fake flagger.
2020-09-01 20:55
Huh?
2020-09-02 02:24
you got baited my friend
2020-09-02 11:40
Well, seeing that he's actively trying to defend himself, I'd say it will take at least a few more days/weeks.
2020-09-01 17:33
#IStandWithDead
2020-09-01 17:36
He is officially suspended, they suspended him like one hour after ESL post
2020-09-01 18:45
RIP
2020-09-01 17:30
Not really. He made Heroic Cologne champions. Is is back as soon as ban is over. Most likely even before that.
2020-09-01 20:39
rip
2020-09-01 17:30
lol
2020-09-01 17:30
Nice 👍
2020-09-01 17:30
#7
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Bosnia and Herzegovina NGBoggle
rip
2020-09-01 17:30
#8
Kriegs | 
Asia rehzy
gg
2020-09-01 17:30
F
2020-09-01 17:31
#10
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Denmark pdxm
F
2020-09-01 17:31
welcome kassad
2020-09-01 17:31
#99
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Ukraine YUR4S
kassad to danish roster? your logic/8 your logic = -1
2020-09-01 17:47
LMAO
2020-09-01 17:31
rip hunden =C
2020-09-01 17:31
RIP HUNDEN :((((
2020-09-01 17:31
RIP GOD HUNDEN :(((
2020-09-01 17:31
Hunden is Very Much mortal... What the fox went through his mind when he did this!?!
2020-09-01 22:49
When you have the chance to gain an advantage and no one could potentially find out, it does weird shit to people man. Sad to see HUNDEN succumb to it.
2020-09-02 16:23
lmao 1 day era
2020-09-01 17:31
22hr era
2020-09-01 17:58
#21
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United States Artifactz
lol
2020-09-01 17:31
Suspending him after the final win ;)
2020-09-01 17:31
#24
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Europe t.o.p
Not worth it at all
2020-09-01 17:32
deserved, cya in 10 god
2020-09-01 17:32
#27
HS | 
Estonia qoznyyy
rip
2020-09-01 17:32
sad for him
2020-09-01 17:32
heroic era 1 day
2020-09-01 17:32
#235
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Dominican Republic Numb_
navi era = 0000000
2020-09-01 18:59
long career LOL Hunden xD
2020-09-01 17:32
#32
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United States NA_KEKW
RIP HUNDEN RIP HEROIC
2020-09-01 17:32
SAD(((
2020-09-01 17:32
FREE GOD HUNDEN
2020-09-01 17:32
#37
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Afghanistan TaIiban
"coaching bug exploit" What?
2020-09-01 17:32
bug is a game defect
2020-09-01 17:36
#70
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Afghanistan TaIiban
Explain this game defect, what did HUNDEN do?
2020-09-01 17:38
#73
NEO | 
Poland Amirek
abused it
2020-09-01 17:38
#92
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Denmark twinseN
Spectate camera inside game its a bug
2020-09-01 17:43
#97
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Afghanistan TaIiban
Thanks
2020-09-01 17:45
#101
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Denmark twinseN
2020-09-01 17:46
There is a bug where coaches can view some parts of map, hunden used it to gain unfair advantage by observing the enemy team's setups
2020-09-01 18:15
#82
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Finland JooonsMO
that was exploited by coach
2020-09-01 17:41
#100
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Afghanistan TaIiban
I thought Finland "good education" smh
2020-09-01 17:45
#119
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Finland JooonsMO
I tough you would understand my comment... Too high expectation for Afghan
2020-09-01 17:50
#121
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Afghanistan TaIiban
I wanted to know what the glitch was, you obviously failed reading comprehension.
2020-09-01 17:50
#124
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Finland JooonsMO
I know r/woosh
2020-09-01 17:51
wtf, why, couldnt they move him to manager role or smth like that
2020-09-01 17:32
#89
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Finland JooonsMO
Bad pr. Best is to suspend him for now and later think about what to do with him.
2020-09-01 17:43
Oh they will just not officially. No way the team was not aware of a coach suddenly giving accurate positions just after he reconnected to the server
2020-09-01 18:06
#289
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Sweden Svahn
"Heroic has, after carefully reviewing recordings of these matches, no reason to believe the players of our team were by any means aware or complicit to this bug abuse" Don't worry, Heroic promises everything is A-OK! 😂
2020-09-01 20:06
hey it is what it is
2020-09-01 17:32
#40
NEO | 
Poland Amirek
rip but tbh respect that he confirm that he did cheat and accepted that and not try to prove that his innocent
2020-09-01 17:34
I’m actually surprised he admitted to using it in Home Sweet Home too, which he wasn’t accused of
2020-09-01 18:01
because the referee was about to check the t2 and t3 tournaments anyway, including Home Sweet Home and Malta Vibes
2020-09-01 23:48
#291
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Sweden Svahn
Yea incredible respect admitting to something after having been caught 😂 what a champ! Fucking weak minded
2020-09-01 20:08
#303
NEO | 
Poland Amirek
Bruh he lost a lot of respect from me, but he can still admit to thing he did, which not everyone would do
2020-09-01 20:18
#307
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Sweden Svahn
Admit to what!? He has been CAUGHT wtf are you baiting or some zoomer thing? It's done, he his out and who gives a shit in the end. You think he would've come forward if he wasn't caught 😂. He'd be fucking cruising
2020-09-01 20:28
#311
NEO | 
Poland Amirek
I am talking about admiting to cheating, some people would just argue even if they know they were cheating.
2020-09-01 20:33
#314
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Sweden Svahn
Ah ok so I guess we hand out cookies when people aren't complete retards 👍
2020-09-01 20:36
#316
NEO | 
Poland Amirek
Holy fuck dude you are getting annoying, he can admit that he cheated instead of arguing that he is clear, I only said it's nice, maybe the "respect" was not the right word but you are arguing over such a bullshit
2020-09-01 20:37
#322
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Sweden Svahn
You fucked up and u you got called out on it. Don't take it out on me, take it out on ur brain
2020-09-01 20:46
#332
NEO | 
Poland Amirek
Yes, I fucked up on using a word repsect but you also got on my nerves
2020-09-01 20:57
#333
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Sweden Svahn
True I did.
2020-09-01 21:09
Look here you dumbfuck. People make mistakes and give in to temptation all the time. Yes of course it is dumb, but Hunden owned it and went to the referee and confessed to it, before he was caught. I can respect that, and Hope he returns to the scene at some point. He's too good not to, and he proved it in Cologne.
2020-09-01 22:36
Stfu
2020-09-01 22:41
He's more of a man than all the assholes shitting on him in here.
2020-09-01 22:46
Nice dog statement You are so emotional maybe go call your mum and cry
2020-09-01 22:48
22iq
2020-09-01 23:12
+1 wtf this generation of idiot zoomers is crazy
2020-09-01 22:41
#419
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Sweden Svahn
It gets better. They seem to still want to hand out cookies. Look below me
2020-09-02 09:57
yeah man this is insane
2020-09-02 19:25
If you read his personal statement (Which you obviously did not), you would realize that he was the one responsible for letting Michau Slowinski know that this bug existed. Something which Michau surely would deny if it was untrue. He was not caught, he caught himself. So all your national envy and guesswork falls completely flat. He won Cologne fair and square, and knew the clock was ticking for his inevitable ban, because he was the one who started the clock.
2020-09-02 01:15
#430
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Sweden Svahn
It's true it does say that in his statement, and perhaps that's something we can believe that it would've never had been discovered or perhaps it was already leaking and he caught wind of it. "national envy" who taught you such a big word? 😂 Envy of Denmark, yea keep smoking toilet paper buddy. Check liquipedia if ever confused. Who said anything about cologne? But on that topic, first week the bug was unpatched. So you bring up a good point
2020-09-02 11:10
The envy is obviously related to CS.GO. Dude, you flame so frigging hard, don't you get bored of it?
2020-09-03 08:39
"Therefore I decided to contact Michau Slowinski, the ESL Admin, to explain the bug that was a part of the game at the time. I knew it would have professional and personal ramifications for me" Just saying, he did try to make up for his mistake even before he was caught. That being said, I assume you have half a brain cell to read and comprehend. Lofty expectations ikr
2020-09-02 06:33
#426
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Sweden Svahn
How very noble of him to jump in front of the story before it bites him in the ass. Nowhere can you read in this "article" the time line of these events, he knew that they knew, don't kid yourself. But I guess this is something of honor where u come from. Perhaps time we took xypex from you so you don't corrupt his soul as well.
2020-09-02 10:59
Nothing to do with my nationality. Like you said, If we don't know the exact timeline of the events, or what actually conspired then assuming he played safe cause he saw it coming is just as wrong as assuming he legit did that out of remorse. Anyways I'm expecting way too much, rationale thinking?? No no that'll require an entire brain cell, way too much to expect. so it's fine
2020-09-02 12:40
#457
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Sweden Svahn
Denmark cheaters - 1 (so far) Sweden cheaters - 0 How do you like them brain cells?
2020-09-02 12:44
Again I have nothing to do with the nationality. HUNDEN is a cheater and no one is denying that, just say people shouldn't make assumptions without having any sort of information. but again, "rationale behavior"??? No no, that's gonna require an entire brain cell which is clearly way too much to expect from a guy like you. it's all good
2020-09-02 12:53
Again I have nothing to do with the nationality. HUNDEN is a cheater and no one is denying that, just saying people shouldn't make assumptions without having any sort of information. but again, "rationale behavior"??? No no, that's gonna require an entire brain cell which is clearly way too much to expect from a guy like you. it's all good
2020-09-02 12:54
#460
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Sweden Svahn
|Metric| Again I have nothing to do with the nationality. HUNDEN is a cheater and no one is denying that, just saying people shouldn't make assumptions without having any sort of information. but again, "rationale behavior"??? No no, that's gonna require an entire brain cell which is clearly way too much to expect from a guy like you. it's all good
2020-09-02 12:55
You're the one making assumptions and being butthurt over nationality. it's all good tho, can't expect an entire brain cell from svahn, now can you?
2020-09-02 13:00
Yo le noob, I don't know what mental deficiency you have but I wouldn't want to have it. In every sport when the athlete gets caught cheating the vast majority deny it, for various reasons I won't develop as you can find them easily on the internet. It's only fair to acknoledge the fact tht he respects the decision and admits his guilt.
2020-09-02 12:06
#453
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Sweden Svahn
Sry I don't speak Spanish.
2020-09-02 12:08
IQ checks out
2020-09-02 12:12
#41
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United States xSleader
lol
2020-09-01 17:33
#42
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Bulgaria BySorax
NICE deserved
2020-09-01 17:33
F for GOD HUNDEN
2020-09-01 17:33
rip Heroic without HUNDEN
2020-09-01 17:33
all teams will be forced to suspend their coaches who used that bug. it's like a domino effect. just to maintain these shitty faces in public and infront of these organizations that ignore the daily matchfixing and punish players that use small bugs xd
2020-09-01 17:34
#63
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Malaysia Suno[t]
+1111
2020-09-01 17:37
#80
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Romania alexjpro
Yeah
2020-09-01 17:40
#151
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Netherlands JUNG13
True that, when I saw the news I immediately thought it was planned to draw the attention away from something BIG-ger like Top1 hltv throwing loads of games at enormous odds against themselves hltv.org/forums/threads/2349923/big-and-..
2020-09-01 18:02
seriously? no..............
2020-09-01 17:34
BAN DEAD MIBR !!!
2020-09-01 17:34
DOG
2020-09-01 17:34
#52
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Germany DieS0nne
"accepted" as if he has a choice
2020-09-01 17:36
he could make a change.org petition...
2020-09-01 21:31
and?
2020-09-02 06:58
Sad mens :(
2020-09-01 17:34
#54
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France StickyRice
Time for a VAC BAN now
2020-09-01 17:35
lost all respect anyways cya in 1
2020-09-01 17:39
Woooooooooooow what a turn of events for heroic
2020-09-01 17:35
#60
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Poland SebL
He was a great coach, but it's understandable from Heroic.
2020-09-01 17:36
sad for GOD hunden but deserved
2020-09-01 17:36
no way heroic players didnt know about it
2020-09-01 17:37
Why are you so sure about that? Look at what they achieved WITHOUT using the damn bug in Cologne. The Guy is brilliant at what he does. To be the best you seek out every advantage you can get, and that drive can sometimes lead you to go too far. The suspension is fair, but its sad for Counterstrike. We just lost one of the greatest minds in the sport. For a year at least.
2020-09-01 22:44
rip god
2020-09-01 17:37
#68
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Malaysia Suno[t]
so sad for hunden <3 through this troubling times.
2020-09-01 17:37
GOD to DOG real fast
2020-09-01 17:38
Fun fact: Hunden means dog in danish
2020-09-01 19:00
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2020-09-01 17:39
#78
Per0N | 
Venezuela 643
Only pussies don't try to win no matter what. I'm with you hunden.
2020-09-01 17:40
I literally didnt read the article and I dont know what kind of advantage it was, can someone explain? Would be literally insane lol pls ty
2020-09-01 17:40
There was a bug that gave the other team diarrhea so they couldn't compete
2020-09-01 17:58
and of course a hunden fan outta denmark replies that shit ty
2020-09-01 18:17
Just read the article you daft cunt
2020-09-01 19:36
stfu du hund
2020-09-01 19:37
I think it gave the coach the ability to spectate one part of the map constantly.
2020-09-01 18:24
Yeah one spot of the map
2020-09-01 18:52
Wow and this abused hunden lmao Thank you!
2020-09-01 19:36
#81
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Poland GodLk
deserved
2020-09-01 17:41
#83
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Denmark twinseN
I Rly dont understand why he would do that so stupid
2020-09-01 17:42
No, it fucking sucks man! :( But sometimes the desire to achieve greatness takes you to dark places. Like doping
2020-09-01 22:50
"greatness" lol "dark places" lmao
2020-09-02 07:21
How is this such a shock to hltv? Theres way worse cheats in pro cs than this exploit. Money involved, a lot of it, so its only natural.
2020-09-01 17:42
just kids in denial about the real world where people cheat for advantages when big money is on the line all the time :)
2020-09-02 03:15
#85
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Fall from grace in under a day.
2020-09-01 17:42
at least he owned up to it now
2020-09-01 17:42
#98
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Denmark twinseN
Yeah i agree atlest he admit it
2020-09-01 17:45
#128
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Slovakia Daev0n
And it seems like he contacted the admin about the bug, trying to fix what he has done. At least from what he said.
2020-09-01 17:51
I dont know about that but at least he admitted his mistake without making excuses etc. Its the right thing to do after all
2020-09-01 17:53
#142
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Slovakia Daev0n
"I felt remorse for my decision, and I still do, but realised that I could never take back my actions. Therefore I decided to contact Michau Slowinski, the ESL Admin, to explain the bug that was a part of the game at the time. I knew it would have professional and personal ramifications for me."
2020-09-01 17:59
But he didnt clarify when he contacted him. The investigation was probably already under way so they would have caught him either way. Still a nice move by him, I hope he will be back in a year.
2020-09-01 18:45
#88
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France FanchD
DOG HUNDEN
2020-09-01 17:42
THE DOG DOG Is what youre saying
2020-09-01 22:52
Cya in a year
2020-09-01 17:43
#93
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Ukraine YUR4S
F
2020-09-01 17:44
DOG HUNDEN
2020-09-01 17:44
That's how you take responsibility. Fair play. No teary-eyed excuses, no explaining away. Accept, apologize, move on. That's how you do it.
2020-09-01 17:45
+1 respect if it was really his decision to come forward and admit
2020-09-01 17:48
Respect lmao
2020-09-01 22:43
ofc, I respect people that man up and admit their mistakes
2020-09-01 22:53
[insert mibr excuse here]
2020-09-02 03:16
doesn't make them completely right but at least it doesn't make them a complete scum
2020-09-01 23:51
#115
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Portugal dracø
+1
2020-09-01 17:49
#147
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Slovakia Daev0n
+1 [spamming F key]
2020-09-01 18:00
+1
2020-09-01 18:08
Dead from Mibr just started lying and didn’t even apologize haha
2020-09-01 19:37
be sure we will "welcome you on stage again". we have done it with a lot of famous matchfixers
2020-09-01 17:46
Expected
2020-09-01 17:47
DOG hund
2020-09-01 17:48
#107
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Brazil Vini007
At least he took responsibility. That being said, it is such a disappointment; Heroic were doing fine and we were all looking forward to watching them on LAN. Now we don't know if their performance was genuine or not. LAN matches are going to disclosure so many more things...
2020-09-01 17:48
They said Cologne was clear so i still hope they will do good . hunden can coach them behind the scene but ofc wont be able to do in-game calls
2020-09-01 17:51
stupid ban 1 year ban because he used a glitch in two matches? too heavy punishment for what he did
2020-09-01 17:48
#150
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Slovakia Daev0n
and dead? using the bug in one round? lmao, he got 6 months. It's pretty strange that they ban a coach when he uses an exploit in the game but they don't ban a team like BIG who used the "bug" a few years ago. Also same goes for Fnatic, they were just disqualified, nothing else. But when a coach does it, they get banned.
2020-09-01 18:02
the bug was usable for everyone, big didnt do anything wrong until the agreement between all teams was done that the bug shouldnt be used, until then, fairplay.
2020-09-01 18:19
#178
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Slovakia Daev0n
Fnatic boost was usable for everyone? Coach exploit was usable for anyone as well? What's your point
2020-09-01 18:20
The fnatic boost violated regulations. About the coaching bug, idk but could be the same case. Besides, BIG's bug was more of a mechanic ingame, it's more of a greyzone, though they did violate their fairplay agreement.
2020-09-01 18:27
#191
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Slovakia Daev0n
Keep in mind that there was no rule about pixel walking at that time.
2020-09-01 18:27
It's not the pixel walk that was against DH's regulations, the boost allowed fnatic (and LDLC, who used a lesser version of the same boost in that match!) to see through certain textures that were made transparent. Of course this hardly played a part in why the boost was so effective, but that's why it was against the regulations, nothing to do with pixelwalking which, as you said, hadn't been adressed in the rules yet.
2020-09-01 18:30
#201
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Slovakia Daev0n
Ah thanks for explaining it.
2020-09-01 18:32
No problem. By the way, I personally don't think the coaches should've been penalized this harshly either, only if there was a second/ more serious offense than this.
2020-09-01 18:34
the bug was ingame and was IN the game, u could just use it while playing, no harm intended because you dont do anything extra, its not like the used some program or whatever. the coach bug was sth the coach had to do with "bad" intention, that wasnt done in the middle of a round, it was abused as a whole. i know what you mean, both are arguably wrong but i think theres a difference in the level of extent and "cheat". fnatic boost was the same as big bug for me, the players didnt do anything extra, its unfortunate, but not out of the game. coach bug was intentionally cheating to the extent of a wallhack.
2020-09-01 18:27
The BIG bug was known among the players for a while, and BIG stile abused it intentionally. How is the coach exploit any different?
2020-09-01 19:05
Cause the BIG bug can be used by every player on the server playing, the coach exploit needs some non-player to abuse it. Completely different story in my perspective. Ofcourse they used it intentionally, because it wasnt cheating or violating any rules but using basically a wallhack for a part of the map is surely cheating and thats easy to comprehend without reading any rules or settings. BIG bug was part of the game, coach exploit wasnt.
2020-09-01 21:40
How is it different? Cause i can't litterally see a difference. How is one bug that excists ingame different from another just because only coaches spectating can use it? All teams could use coach bug, just like every team could use the BIG bug. How is it different just because only the coach can use it? There is litterally No differnce.
2020-09-01 22:04
The BIG bug was a ingame bug usable for all PLAYERS while playing the game, but the coach exploit has to be used with intent of cheating and getting knowledge from a place where ure not supposed to see anything. A partial wallhack by a spectator is obviously alot different than a mechanical bug used by players. We can agree to disagree, different opinions, no problem. :)
2020-09-01 22:42
The BIG bug had to be used with intent aswell. And the coach bug was an ingame spectator bug. So your arguments are litterally void.
2020-09-02 07:05
Only because you disagree and dont seem to get my points, the arguments are not void. Pretty ignorant standpoint.
2020-09-02 13:35
#111
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Denmark Jonasnhj
RIP Hunden, i bet Heroic was in on it, but to not get suspended themselfs they just said they werent a part of it
2020-09-01 17:49
at least he admitted it like a man and he doesnt try to make some stupid excuses... huge -1 for what he did but big +1 that he is able to face consequences
2020-09-01 17:49
Damn.
2020-09-01 17:49
They need their victory taken away from this recent tournament as one of their team member's was caught cheating
2020-09-01 17:50
#135
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Mongolia Kkura
Who?
2020-09-01 17:55
Seeing as the article is about Heroic .... dunce
2020-09-01 17:58
They allready revivewed the demos and said Cologne was clean, so why?
2020-09-01 19:06
Do you think a one year ban on the coach is actual punishment? Strip them of something significant - slap the hand - teach them an actual lesson. Heroic will not be affected much from this outcome . They had a cheater on their team - they are guilty because he wears the Heroic jersey and represents them. CS has a serious cheating problem - more than any other hobby/sport I haven taken part in - statements need to be made.
2020-09-01 19:28
For what reason should they have taken the victory away? I could understand it if they used the bug in Cologne, but they didn't. They stated that the team didn't know he used the exploit. Let's make and example here then. Let's say that they figured out that the Kansas City Chiefs coach was spying on the other teams coach durring the super Bowl. Should they strip their title away and ban the whole team from playing? Imagine the backlash that would get. Furthermore this coach bug is directly comparable to the BIG crouch bug om inferno. The team knowingly used the bug for ill intent, but still didn't even get a slap on the wrist.
2020-09-01 19:36
#324
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Mongolia Kkura
+1
2020-09-01 20:47
> Let's make and example here then. Let's say that they figured out that the Kansas City Chiefs coach was spying on the other teams coach durring the super Bowl. Should they strip their title away and ban the whole team from playing? Imagine the backlash that would get. Yes
2020-09-01 22:44
I bet ur a trump supporter who dosent read shit
2020-09-01 18:05
Yeah not a Trump supporter "China" opening their mouth - what a joke Nice try baiter - do better Long story short someone was caught cheating - he is apart of a team that just won a tournament - 48 hours ago They do not deserve that win with a (recent) cheater on the roster. He admitted to two matches - but that is all he admitted to - could be much more. Why would you trust a cheater? Lesser, blind euro-trash
2020-09-01 18:59
he was caught cheating in one single tournament you close minded American and they didn't even win it so because of one tournament you want their victories taken away from other tournaments I'm not even Chinese I'm just fake flagging and pretty sure i live in a country more developed economically and pretty much in every other field than your shity ass country , i'd rather live in a 5th world country where I'm sure I'll be safer than living in the USA a country where legit you can get killed any second lmao plus you talking about china is funny when you legit export everything from china
2020-09-02 00:05
he was caught cheating in one single tournament you close minded American and they didn't even win it so because of one tournament you want their victories taken away from other tournaments I'm not even Chinese I'm just fake flagging and pretty sure i live in a country more developed economically and pretty much in every other field than your shity ass country , i'd rather live in a 5th world country where I'm sure I'll be safer than living in the USA a country where legit you can get killed any second lmao plus you talking about china is funny when you legit export everything from china
2020-09-02 00:05
#122
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Portugal dracø
This sucks hard. Wonder how many more did this.
2020-09-01 17:50
Humble enough to admit his mistakes, only dead now playing the victim and still trying to defend himself from abusing something illegal.
2020-09-01 17:51
+1 didnt expect someone with a BR flag to say that tho ngl
2020-09-02 05:38
deserved
2020-09-01 17:51
FCK NO.... HUNDEN MY FRIEND, DON'T STOP TO BELIEVE. Maybe switch 1 year to valorant to make ez money and come back stronger to the CS world, because the CS world needs people like you. U deserve the 1 year ban, but don't forget that bad actions don't define u as a person for all your life. So don't give up pls, u made a mistake, but i'm sure that u deserve to be in the CS world. Good luck GODHUNDEN, see you soon i hope with all my heart <3
2020-09-01 17:51
+1
2020-09-01 17:54
Well said mate
2020-09-01 20:12
#304
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Sweden Svahn
Hunden pls come back in a year and when all is forgiven and forgotten you can cheat again! Love you // Some baguette
2020-09-01 20:24
hopefully peanuts brain like u don't decide :) Be mad at ALPHA Hunden
2020-09-01 20:27
#310
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Sweden Svahn
So Alpha he cheated. It's already been decided 😂 he's banned, can't you read? No org will ever pick him up, flee to Valorant little doggie. Hey, maybe he needs a groupie frenchy, go fetch
2020-09-01 20:32
1 year ban my friend learn to read also
2020-09-01 20:54
#129
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India _Jazz_
Sad to say it but it's Deserved. Didn't expect HUNDEN to do it.
2020-09-01 17:53
#161
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Denmark Menterx
+1 did expect it of others but not him, feelsbadman...
2020-09-01 18:07
Same. I cant believe it. Hes so good he doesnt need to cheat at all... but coaching is pretty new to him, so maybe he was afraid he couldnt live up to the expectations? I dont know...
2020-09-01 23:01
” I saw an edge which I knew was wrong, but I took it and used the bug in-game. I acted on my own, without the knowledge of my teammates.” Wonder how much he got paid for this claim.
2020-09-01 17:53
#154
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Sweden Svahn
Heroic are fucking liars. They don't want to go back to tier 3 so they keep their dirty roster and play ignorant.
2020-09-01 18:04
And you're full of shit, but dont worry... It all comes back to you some day.
2020-09-01 23:03
#433
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Sweden Svahn
Change your flair ffs. Makes me sick
2020-09-02 11:23
Never. I hope it makes you puke
2020-09-02 11:23
lomme back?
2020-09-01 17:54
lmao GG heroic now, back to tier 3
2020-09-01 17:54
Rip :(
2020-09-01 17:58
"I acted on my own, without the knowledge of my teammates." LIAR
2020-09-01 17:58
#160
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Denmark Menterx
Proff? Or are you just talking out of your ass?
2020-09-01 18:06
he literally said it dumb ass
2020-09-01 18:13
#335
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Denmark Menterx
Can't find that part in the statement, can you please quote it for me? Thank in advance!
2020-09-01 21:10
There is no proof whatsoever that anyone else knew. The comms have been checked.
2020-09-01 23:04
#143
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Sweden Svahn
"Heroic has, after carefully reviewing recordings of these matches, no reason to believe the players of our team were by any means aware or complicit to this bug abuse" I'm sry did I miss something? Ofc heroic will say that, this needs to be reviewed by an impartial jury! Wtf 😂. They wouldn't admit to cheating and have their whole roster banned. Oh csgo u failure
2020-09-01 17:59
+1
2020-09-01 18:14
+1
2020-09-01 21:09
+1
2020-09-01 22:47
totally deserved.
2020-09-01 17:59
Wonder if Valve is interested in setting a precedent here, or if they'll ignore it moving forward. Considering how inconsistent they are I'm betting on the latter.
2020-09-01 17:59
It was an ingame bug so valve says play ball :() only vac counts
2020-09-01 21:37
lmao, hunden why
2020-09-01 18:01
WELP
2020-09-01 18:03
#153
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Lithuania Edze
I mean we all would do that if we had chance, gl hunden in future
2020-09-01 18:03
#155
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Hungary subzera
hltv reporting on HL and heroic but not mibr? biased
2020-09-01 18:05
#338
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Sweden Svahn
They only report on teams that has a future
2020-09-01 21:28
#342
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Hungary subzera
true. both heroic and hl in position to qualify for major. mibr aint.
2020-09-01 21:41
I guess thats why they never report on Fnatic :)
2020-09-01 23:06
so they cheated vs Astralis AND STILL LOST HAHA
2020-09-01 18:05
deserved
2020-09-01 18:06
Good to hear a response like this from him. No excuses, just an apology. Can't wait for him to return this time next year as an even better coach!
2020-09-01 18:08
only 2 matches ahahaha they won the whole esl one cologne with that bug
2020-09-01 18:09
U srsly didn't understand, they cannot use the bug,because its already fixed? Poor romanian guy.
2020-09-01 18:12
They allready reviewed the Cologne games, and non of IT showed anything. It would be easy to check, since you can see all connected players angles (also the coach). This means if her did use IT in Cologne, they would find out really fast.
2020-09-01 19:10
Literally was patched already.
2020-09-01 22:03
Still waiting for MIBR to kick Dead the cheater
2020-09-01 18:10
#166
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Netherlands Sem0733
Well at least he's owning up to his mistakes. Seeya later.
2020-09-01 18:11
#167
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Thailand hahahoha
i forgive you
2020-09-01 18:12
Pretty sure they will find even more coaches using this bug
2020-09-01 18:12
Respect
2020-09-01 18:14
he will never confess about Cologne ofc.
2020-09-01 18:15
cuz the bug didn't work there. Maybe read the news or stop talking.
2020-09-01 18:27
Demos shows if the bug is used, they allready checked. Wasn't used.
2020-09-01 19:12
29 years, cheated in a game, jobless, hf working on min wage KEKW
2020-09-01 18:19
rip Heroic without god HUNDEN you will fall hardly
2020-09-01 18:22
#180
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Turkey M4NM
kk
2020-09-01 18:22
#181
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Germany DEBlL
his name is Michal not Michau
2020-09-01 18:23
Michał
2020-09-01 18:27
#248
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Germany DEBlL
we speak in english here so Michal it is
2020-09-01 19:11
at least he goes as a man. Not like Dead that still crying on twitter. But that is a culture thing I guess. Brazil can't be a man. They are all more like Neymar. Arrogant but can't take a hit.
2020-09-01 18:25
+1 HUNDEN confessed it, Dead is being protected by FalleN xD
2020-09-01 18:26
Time to say all pro teams fuck off ESL and create own league ESL can play with tier5 teams
2020-09-01 18:26
GL with that. ESL and DH make actually 80% of the tier1 tournaments.
2020-09-01 18:28
if all tier1 teams go to other tournaments who then play ESL this 80% tournaments MM trash or faceit bots ?
2020-09-01 18:30
there is no one that would make these tournaments. Or do you see other TO make a big investment?? Epicenter all 3 years a tournament. Star ladder maybe 1 per year. Who the hell should do 20 tournaments in a year with 6 million prizemoney on the line and live events?? Nobody will.
2020-09-01 18:32
ox no only god esl in world have money... ox no they gods.. any normal company have more money then this shit esl
2020-09-01 19:30
nope only ESL take the risks atm. you are obv very stupid go back to school.
2020-09-01 19:31
sad
2020-09-01 18:26
#192
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Germany BIG2020
F
2020-09-01 18:28
Disappointed.. Time to change flair.
2020-09-01 18:28
Well, atleast he owned up to it like a man unlike dead who keeps crying on Twitter.
2020-09-01 18:29
Leaf should confess too
2020-09-01 18:29
leaf did nothing wrong dead could learn a thing or 2 about having any dignity from HUNDEN tho
2020-09-01 18:46
RIP - hope to see you back in the scene in a year!
2020-09-01 18:30
#202
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Serbia LtN))
deserved
2020-09-01 18:32
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
2020-09-01 18:32
F
2020-09-01 18:32
HUNDEN. You're one of the most respected players, loved by all. Couldn't handle the temptation. We are only human, sometimes even the best people can fall for things like this. Penalty is deserved, and you're taking it as a man. Take the one year, and come back. We will miss you till September 2021.
2020-09-01 18:34
Well put.
2020-09-01 18:35
+1
2020-09-02 00:20
I love hunden, but let’s be real, he didnt just do it in 2 games ... most likely did it all the games at cologne as well
2020-09-01 18:35
nope impossible.
2020-09-01 18:45
Demos shows if the bug is used, they allready checked. Wasn't used.
2020-09-01 19:19
ty
2020-09-02 08:48
they can see if the coach picked the coach role or stayed as spec after reconnecting to get the bug. thats how they know how many rounds etc it was used for, so it was not used in cologne 100%
2020-09-02 03:20
ty
2020-09-02 08:47
lol, bye. least admitted the instance
2020-09-01 18:36
Fo
2020-09-01 18:40
#212
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Sweden flippig
Deserved but what about the players? Were they completely unaware of this bug abuse or what???
2020-09-01 18:41
did you not read the article?
2020-09-01 18:45
#278
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Sweden flippig
Heroic investigating themselves, sounds legit.
2020-09-01 19:51
well who do you want and how to "Investigate" them, the police?
2020-09-02 03:20
#420
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Sweden flippig
Admins? Tournament staff? Valve? Anyone other than themself.
2020-09-02 09:57
how? ask them if they were in on it? lol
2020-09-02 10:40
#427
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Sweden flippig
Kekw so thats what police do when they investigate stuff? Just ask people if they did it
2020-09-02 11:07
grats on not understanding sarcasm
2020-09-02 11:16
#432
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Sweden flippig
hmm i dont think you understand what sarcasm mean
2020-09-02 11:17
and i dont think you can be older than 14 (for your sake)
2020-09-02 11:25
#438
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Sweden Svahn
Stay on topic or get off the thread. U r too dumb clearly
2020-09-02 11:30
#437
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Sweden Svahn
Did you? Haha this fucking esport is the most shady and corrupt shit I have ever seen. Heroic investigates itself, ofc it will save its roster. They can't sell the players if they are banned, it would bankrupt them. Release the recording and let an impartial judge decide. How can they let this team continue competing on just good faith? Wtf is going on with these idiots on ESL and Valve
2020-09-02 11:29
watch and learn MIBR thats how you accept a ban with dignity rip god HUNDEN
2020-09-01 18:45
#222
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Iceland Cirros_V2
Rip heroic. Tomorrow bcuz of whole situation they will be rekted by ence
2020-09-01 18:46
lets see :D
2020-09-02 14:26
#471
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Iceland Cirros_V2
Yeah lets see. 3rd prob. smth like 16-12 for ence
2020-09-02 15:47
#474
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Iceland Cirros_V2
I was even almost right about score :D
2020-09-02 17:02
Lost all respect.
2020-09-01 18:47
#224
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Finland 5way
NEXT MATCH GONNA BE EZ4ENCE #EZ4ENCE #GODALLU #EZ4JAMPPI #FREEJAMPPI #JUSSILASJANI #NUORIOSUJA #FIREPOWER #NATUNPALJU
2020-09-01 18:48
Sad day for csgo, RIP. However, I for one have already forgiven hunden and all I can add to that is, #FREEHUNDEN
2020-09-01 18:47
Heroic win ESL ONE Cologne Also Heroic haters laughting rn
2020-09-01 18:54
finally this bot is out of the pro scene worthless trash
2020-09-01 18:54
Deserved.
2020-09-01 18:54
undeserved... they are trying to stop Hunden taking over CS just like all the teams that drop him
2020-09-01 18:57
He was cheating lol, that should be perma ban
2020-09-01 18:58
The man literally cant catch a break. Using the bug was dumb, ofc. but still... valve should get their shit together. I hope at least they dont take Cologne from him.
2020-09-01 23:16
Omg, heroic players are such a snakes. It's obvious all of them knew about bug and still made HUNDEN say that they didnt. Cowards
2020-09-01 18:57
#308, oof mad polishman
2020-09-01 20:36
Yeah, I am mad, because they was CHEATING on pro players game. I don't want pro players who earn like 100x ukrainian avg salary per month to cheat. I expect them to be 100% fair.
2020-09-01 21:46
+1
2020-09-01 21:13
imagine lost to astralis with that huge bug xaxaxaxaxaxax
2020-09-01 19:00
I don't think that only the coach knew about it, it sounds very stupid. Just imagine banned only one man, but not all team lmao
2020-09-01 19:00
maybe that did, but this is the easiest way out. hunden takes full responsibility and the team is saved. he gets suspended and will still be paid. in one year he is back. he might do a lot of coaching work off the camera.
2020-09-01 19:10
#440
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Sweden Svahn
Yes this is what I'm thinking as well, Hunden takes one for the team which is why they should do a proper investigation in to this. Heroic can't be trusted, no team can.
2020-09-02 11:36
haha what did i say :D HUNDEN CHEATAAH
2020-09-01 19:03
#243
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Austria Ectasian
so wait, HE notified the referee about the bug and admitted to using it? how does that not get him less of a fine for cooperation=?
2020-09-01 19:06
read correctly. he said he did it today. So after the ban.
2020-09-01 19:07
I think you are missreading it. He was the one that notified the admins of the bug, and how it worked.
2020-09-01 19:21
go play valorant dude.
2020-09-01 19:09
fuck valve #boycottcsgo #freehunden
2020-09-01 19:12
unlucky bro
2020-09-01 19:13
So HUNDEN and Heroic are cheaters... Well, that was very much expected
2020-09-01 19:14
esl-one-cologne-2020 = Vitality Winners
2020-09-01 19:17
Bug wasn't used durring Cologne. Demos shows if the bug is used, they allready checked. Wasn't used.
2020-09-01 19:22
No cause then Any team heroic beat Will be Winner so a whole New cologne playoff would be made with likely New teams, either nobody won cologne or heroic did (which they did as esl announced)
2020-09-01 19:22
Expected
2020-09-01 19:21
23 not 10 rounds tho.. I already thought 10 was much but 23? 1 year aint enough he used it against Astralis!! (and lost tho xD)
2020-09-01 19:24
dog night sweet prince :() also players not knowing is the biggest kappa123 :()
2020-09-01 19:27
#264
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Argentina ivanpb
jesus was crucified...
2020-09-01 19:32
#265
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Sweden godname
HUNDEN HAAHA
2020-09-01 19:33
Why he adds his family? WTF retard
2020-09-01 19:34
nice top3 we got there
2020-09-01 19:34
#268
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France s2ptik
the whole team heroic knew, stop taking us for idiots...
2020-09-01 19:36
Ils essayent de sauver les joueurs mais bon , c'est sur que toute l'équipe a profité du beug, comme si les joueurs n'étaient pas au courant mdr
2020-09-01 21:15
#482
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France s2ptik
haha :)
2020-09-05 12:21
#444
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Sweden Svahn
Oh don't worry. Heroic has investigated itself and swears that no one else cheated 😂 hahaha
2020-09-02 11:44
#483
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France s2ptik
:p
2020-09-05 12:22
As a G2/Vita supporter I'm sad they waited the end of Cologne to act. Not because he used it in Cologne, but because him talking to his team at all time gave them enough advantages to win.
2020-09-01 19:39
#276
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Denmark KalakR
You Are still one of the best
2020-09-01 19:40
beast hunden
2020-09-01 19:42
RIP hunden
2020-09-01 19:54
#280
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Brazil Fauchard
Dead probably will denie like all fuck... brazillian politicians
2020-09-01 19:54
if he only tried it for one round then he's a good guy
2020-09-01 19:55
#296
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Brazil hugoooo
I think he heard about the bug, tried to test it, worked and he never used it again... and he got fucked for that one round lol
2020-09-01 20:13
What's wrong with God using God mode? =D
2020-09-01 19:54
"I saw an edge which I knew was wrong, but I took it and used the bug in-game. I acted on my own, without the knowledge of my teammates." Hunden u make laugh everytime for ur 3IQ
2020-09-01 19:56
There was literally no point in letting the team know about his bug-usage LOL He could have easily said something like 'guys I think it's B' or 'guys this player often takes this position', isn't it what coaches when allowed to speak during the match usually do? I mean, it's their work
2020-09-01 20:29
#285
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Lithuania Tocha
so what is the bug?
2020-09-01 20:00
You get stuck in some parts of the map and you are basically a surveillance camera
2020-09-01 20:46
#286
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Denmark gh00st
I think I will never be able to see HUNDEN in the same way I did until yesterday again, as one of the greatest players of CS on Denmark. But at least I think he has truthful in his statement
2020-09-01 20:01
#445
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Sweden Svahn
He's Danish bro. Ofc he will cheat sooner or later. Well moving forward we will now know: Flusha - No cheat Hunden - Noclip ON
2020-09-02 11:47
GOD WE'RE WAITING FOR YOU TO COME BACK!!!!!
2020-09-01 20:05
HUNDEN did nothing wrong
2020-09-01 20:05
#290
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Europe carvall
F
2020-09-01 20:07
expected
2020-09-01 20:10
#FreeGodHunden
2020-09-01 20:11
#294
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Brazil hugoooo
They will still receive their Cologne prize??? It would be a joke to believe they didn't abused this bug in order to win the whole thing
2020-09-01 20:11
esl isnt stupid they checked all the matches and no he didnt use this bug in cologne
2020-09-01 20:15
Before Cologne this bug was fixed.
2020-09-01 20:16
The irony is that, Hunden were Gla1ve's role model in the early stages of his career. Gla1ve himself states he learned from Hunden. Now Hunden cheats while playing against his student.
2020-09-01 20:16
He is taking all the blame so his players image does get degraded... ofcourse his players also knew it..heroic playing smart
2020-09-01 20:14
the only smart statement here
2020-09-02 01:22
#446
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Sweden Svahn
More like ESL playing dumb and Valve too. Time to investigate the little Danes and see what really was going on in that TeamSpeak
2020-09-02 11:50
yes pimp has asked heroic to release the teamspeak otherwise their cologne win will not be appreciated and they will be known for this scandel only,
2020-09-02 16:41
Heroic from No2 to No20 again.
2020-09-01 20:15
"Michau Slowinski" HAHAHAHHAAH nice ignorance hltv
2020-09-01 20:15
Xyp9x's brain is so big, he knew HUNDEN was using the bug against them in DH and only tweeted about it right before the bans came out.
2020-09-01 20:27
link?
2020-09-02 00:58
heroic "2face" nyholm use him for win and advantage and then ditch him
2020-09-01 20:34
23 rounds total thats a big fuck up menss
2020-09-01 20:45
Apology not accepted. Start looking for a new career, son of dog.
2020-09-01 20:45
RIP GOD
2020-09-01 20:47
BAN ESL BY VALVE HAAHHAA
2020-09-01 20:48
I mean it was expected
2020-09-01 20:49
#329
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Finland Tusku
"without the knowledge of my teammates" hmmmmm
2020-09-01 20:54
rip 😭😭😭
2020-09-01 20:55
Sadly these words “ I only want the best for the Counter Strike community, and my actions during these two games are something that are not part of the community I want and love.” mean nothing as if that was the case then you wouldnt have done what you’ve done and if ppl werent going to be caugh then this would have continued on unfortunately, appologies accepted, but this will haunt those who got caught forever......
2020-09-01 21:47
#346
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Denmark twinseN
So bad for Danish Cs Im Speechless
2020-09-01 21:50
DOG HUNDEN
2020-09-01 21:53
#348
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Hungary saxxo
Haha, who belives that the team didn’t know that?:D I bet they agreed that Hunden will be suspended and he will get some money behind the scenes for his silence:)
2020-09-01 21:54
+1 they're using him as a shield
2020-09-01 22:20
All Heroic players should be banned too.
2020-09-01 22:15
What a fucking disgrace this is. And the fact that nobody cares enough makes it even worse. What a shame.... CSGO is a meme now a days. Who can cheat or gain the most advantage wins.... I feel sick to my stomach for the honest and decent pro players out there. This would have never been handled this poorly over at the rivals offices of Riot. Still blows my mind that people believe the players didnt know haha! Ask any pro player. If your coach starts giving you comms you know he cant possibly know and dont do anything you are in the conspiracy as well. FREE IBP!!!!
2020-09-01 22:30
#447
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Sweden Svahn
+1 except the IBP part
2020-09-02 11:52
Why would you ever admit it... Also why would you ban for a bug? Its the games fault not fixing it, not the users fault....
2020-09-01 22:31
You would admit it so you can say none other than you acknowledged the issue. Admitting it gives you the opportunity to take the whole blame for it. Protecting your org and the players. Perhaps that's why the little the org is, the faster coach taking the blame : little org come to that conclusion quick. Bigger org wait before admitting it due to crisis public relation adviser advises them to so insider people (such as TO) wouldn't think about this hypothesis seriously.
2020-09-01 22:54
oof
2020-09-01 23:54
#363
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North America joeS
RIP GOD HUNDEN :(
2020-09-01 22:42
Sad day for csgo
2020-09-01 22:46
Heroic era has now ended
2020-09-01 23:00
#FreeHunden
2020-09-01 23:31
the jump bug was as worse as this still don't make it right for teams who lost vs this
2020-09-02 00:16
I met hunden in London during the Faceit Major. He came out of a bush and joined me and my friends on our walk to mcdonalds. Whilst we were walking to the mcd he was bragging about how he taught gla1ve everything he knew. Got a picture with him where he made fun of my fnatic jersey. At mcdonalds he took like 10 packs of ketchup. Nice guy. He was pretty drunk.
2020-09-02 00:22
Nice :)
2020-09-02 11:31
#397
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Ukraine ksay
why is it so hard to believe that players didn't know? i mean any sane cheater would be vague about the exploit and just help the team without exposing it there is no need to risk confronting your teammates about this thing and the whole game would become even more suspicious
2020-09-02 01:24
Exactly. Its not that hard to do. If he saw some players in a part of the map he could say: "be aware of..." "Watch out for..." "They might be stacking A..." He has a reputation for being a tactical genius. With that in mind, it would be very difficult for players to distinguish between very good preparation/Knowing opponents tendencies and outright cheating. Hltv no-brainers are just looking for excuses to hate.
2020-09-02 11:42
#398
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Brazil victorhsl
I don't get it, if he was exploiting the bug to take advantage during those games how come the team was unaware of what he was doing? I mean, as soon as he communicates with the team some information that it was impossible for him to have without cheating they should be at least suspicious about what he was saying, right?
2020-09-02 01:24
Wow , it's just insane to throw away such a chance of doing something great with heroic . They were playing some really good cs after he joined ..... super sad to see.
2020-09-02 01:35
#422
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Russia Jet1k
Heroic will bring him back after some time, that, or some other team. Hunden will still have lots of chances to coach he's just too good at it.
2020-09-02 10:34
#449
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Sweden Svahn
He will never come back numbnuts 😂
2020-09-02 11:55
#464
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Russia Jet1k
0/8
2020-09-02 13:40
tbh if they only played good under hunden then its suspicious af. Better him leaving and show that Heroic good without him.
2020-09-02 14:32
#401
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Lithuania Ufasas
so this is worse than cheating on GF or BF ?
2020-09-02 02:34
#403
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Hungary raffai
god hunden
2020-09-02 03:14
The only solution is a lifetime ban for all the coaches. They disgraced the game by cheating and should never, ever be allowed in the competitive environment again in any capacity.
2020-09-02 03:26
Grow up, tap. Its not like they comitted murder. Suspension is fair. In all honesty, its mostly valve's fault.
2020-09-02 11:27
#409
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Brazil lekk1
God to admit, unlike ricardo "dead"
2020-09-02 04:56
#416
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Germany X5ander
oh dear god hunden is guilty. he was my lord, to be honest my grandlord !
2020-09-02 08:17
Heroic without Hunden not even top10
2020-09-02 10:09
It's not cheating to exploit a fAcking BUG!
2020-09-02 10:42
which is probably why valve have stayed silent, since it was their fault in the first place
2020-09-02 11:08
it is against the rules of the tournament - I don't have the rule book but what I understood from other comments is that if you use a bug in the game to gain advantage that is in fact not allowed. I suspect they thought nobody would notice - well looking at mibr's performance who would have thought they were exploiting a bug ? :) sorry for trolling - take it as a joke
2020-09-02 11:57
tbh i didnt expect him to be the one doing it, dead im not surprised one bit though KEKW
2020-09-02 11:09
digusting. again he acts like niceguy. he is fcking bad, he was fcking mad and salty because he got kicked again, he switches into coach position and within the first 4 weeks of his new career, he cheats. why ppl like him? because people have sympathies with losers?
2020-09-02 11:40
somebody needs to do the job :) I suppose he wanted to prove himself and came across the bug and that made his work easier... imagine at school you are doing the maths test and somebody already written the answers on the desk before you and the only thing you needed to do is copy those answers to your exam paper I remember having this situation where I actually worked everything out myself regardless - but not everybody chooses the hard way The hard way though allowed me to learn and gain experience - now I am benefiting as I can use those skill in my work and clients appreciate it very much
2020-09-02 11:54
22h era
2020-09-02 11:58
Shortest era ever, even shorter than col when they defeated astralis
2020-09-02 12:34
Heroic did everything right! BOT HUNDEN spoiled the name of Heroic org. All Heroic players including their ex-player/coach HUNDEN are RATS!!!! #BanThem
2020-09-02 13:20
#465
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Germany X5ander
Similarly to Hard Legion, Heroic claim that the players were unaware of the coach using an exploit. haha, lol, who should believe that
2020-09-02 14:05
I retract my praise for hunden, fucking cheaters. Shocking
2020-09-02 14:25
So, cheating is only bad if you get caught - right? I wont be surprised that in later days we will find out that most pros used some kind of little advantage like mouse flick towards player behind wall to know if there is anyone at all etc. Same like any sport or game there will be people trying to get upper hand/advantage especially if there is big money involved.
2020-09-02 19:05
#480
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Denmark Menterx
I did expect this from BR teams and teams from other parts of the world where cheating, corruption etc. are closely embedded in the culture, but not from HUNDEN, not in a million years, disappointed beyond words. In danish we are saying, an insult, MØGHUNDEN, which means the bastard, direct translation would be "the dung dog". That would be an appropriate nickname for him now.
2020-09-03 09:23
#481
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World Beard43
All the best in the future Mr Hunden. You did some really great things for CS, then you took them all back by cheating. I think you should look into some study, it should be early enough to apply for next year. I personally don't think you deserve to be a part of the top level of competition after this. That's just my opinion though and either way, as I said, I wish you all the best in the rest of your life. Take care.
2020-09-03 15:42
bump
2020-09-28 21:02
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