oSee on rejecting offer to stay in Cloud9: "floppy and I felt like it was too big of a risk as we enjoy playing with our current roster"

We caught up with the Cloud9 AWPer as the team enter a period of uncertainty ahead of their impending exit from the organisation.

Josh "⁠oSee⁠" Ohm and the rest of his Cloud9 teammates were recently informed that they would be released by their organisation, who revealed on September 6 their plans to restructure their entire CS:GO division.

With Cloud9 set to sign a majority-European roster, beginning with the additions of Henry "⁠HenryG⁠" Greer as general manager, Aleksandar "⁠kassad⁠" Trifunović as coach, and Alex "⁠ALEX⁠" McMeekin as in-game leader, we caught up with oSee to discuss his thoughts on the time the roster has spent under the organisation.

oSee explained why he and floppy rejected an offer to join the new Cloud9

The 21-year-old AWPer shared why he and Ricky "⁠floppy⁠" Kemery chose to decline an offer to join the new Cloud9 roster, what he believes has led to his return in form, and his thoughts on criticism that has been aimed at his team in general as well as at in-game leader Johnny "⁠JT⁠" Theodosiou.

I wanted to address your impending departure from Cloud9 right off the bat. How are you feeling about that whole situation and how it came about, and how is the team feeling about the future as you look towards finding a new organization?

I’m just going to put it out there and say that the Cloud9 organization and our roster didn’t have the greatest relationship. We ran into a lot of disagreements on how things should be run and we felt like our demands weren’t always met. I think it was partly our fault as well because we didn’t always listen to them and we weren’t performing as well as we could’ve been, so I don’t blame them for the decision they made. They still treated us with a lot of respect and I enjoyed the time I had under such a prestigious organization like Cloud9.

We still think we have the potential to become one of the best teams in North America. We just need the experience that all these other top teams have as we are still a young team and with time we feel like we can be at the top. Cloud9 and HenryG have been helping us lately to try and find us a new organization and I could not thank them enough for still caring about us. Only time will tell where our new home will be.

Henry "HenryG" Greer stated on Twitter that he was interested in keeping you and floppy on the new Cloud9 roster but you both declined. Can you talk a little about the two of you making that decision and what it means to you to keep the five-man lineup together?

So after the meeting where we found out that Cloud9 were looking to switch to an EU-based team and were going to drop us, our manager told us that HenryG wanted Ricky [floppy] and me to try out for the new lineup. I have to really enjoy playing with my teammates, so not knowing who was going to be on the roster or how the personalities of the team would mix I decided it was too big of a risk to leave the current lineup where I know how everyone is, inside and outside of the game. You’re spending hours and hours every day practicing with these people — if you don’t mesh well together, it could lead to many problems.

If they were to have picked up a core of three and asked Ricky and me to try out, then it might have been a different story, but because of how they wanted to completely rebuild the team, we felt like it was too big of a risk as we enjoy playing with our current roster. After talking for a brief moment, Ricky and I both came to the conclusion that we did not want to move to Europe and completely switch the environment that we have been so used to the past year.

Your consistency dipped for a period of time in the early ATK and Cloud9 days, but in recent months you’ve put up solid performances and seem to have found your groove. Did something change in the team to help get you back in gear, or why do you think you’re able to consistently find impact now?

In the past couple of months I’ve been trying really hard to improve on my game, whether it’s my decision-making or just my raw aim. I had never really watched many demos of other players before, to see what they do in certain situations, and so once I did I started to see what other pros were doing and to understand why they do things rather than just trying to copy them.

Counter-Strike is such a situational game that trying to copy other players won’t always work. You have to see the reasoning behind every decision they make and everyone has a different playstyle, so I think it’s more about picking out small things and reinventing it in your own way. I have also started to play Deathmatch a lot more since I joined ATK and I could feel my aim getting more consistent. I still feel like I have a lot to improve on but I think that’s a big reason why I have been performing more consistently recently. I’ve also been trying to improve on my communication and build good habits in practice and that’s a contributing factor as well.

From the fan perspective, outside of the team, it's easy to place blame on JT for some of the team’s failures when you just look at the statistics. Can you tell me a bit about what he brings to the team, and some of the things people may not be able to see or tell without knowing how the team operates internally?

Yeah, so I see a lot of blame placed on JT, with people saying how he’s the reason why we haven’t been performing well lately and saying we should replace him when people really don’t know how much he does for the team. It’s easy to blame him after seeing just the statistics but I truly believe he’s one of the main reasons why we’re even in the position we’re at right now.

He’s constantly bringing new strategies and ideas to practice so we’re not as predictable and he’s always the one to do the “dirty work.” He’s always finding ways to try and improve us as a team and he’s one of the most selfless teammates I’ve ever played with, so for people to blame him for our recent performances is really unfair. It’s a team game after all and everyone has roles where they are going to get more kills, and he’s in one of those roles where he sacrifices a lot for the success of his other teammates so I have a lot of respect for him as a player.

oSee praised JT's leadership and selfless contributions

Shortly after Cloud9 announced they would be looking for a new roster, HenryG announced in a Flashpoint interview that your assistant coach and analyst Joshua “m1cks” Micks would remain with the organization to help out their new lineup. In the months you worked with m1cks, what did he bring to the team, and how do you feel about him parting ways with your roster now?

People don’t realize how much an analyst can help a team out. A lot of top tier teams going into a match change how they approach a game depending on how the other team plays, so having a dependent analyst looking at a team's tendencies is crucial. He would always have succinct notes about every team we would play, whether it be reads he would find or just common spots the opponents would like to play, so he was a big part of our team’s success. He was also a person that was really easy to get along with. Overall, I really enjoyed his presence on the team. I was devastated when I heard he was parting ways with our roster but I completely understand his decision and I wish him the best of luck with the new Cloud9 lineup.

Historically, your team has done quite well on T sides, but struggled to put up the same level of play on CT. From your perspective, why do you think that is such an issue for the roster?

I think our CT side can be an issue when we get off to a bad start. When we lose pistol and start the half off 0-3, I feel like we can get in our heads sometimes and not make the same aggressive plays we usually would if we were up. It’s the same when we’re up a lot of rounds and the other team starts to come back into the game. We start to play scared and we don't take the same risks we usually would. It’s like we’re more scared to lose the game rather than take the necessary steps to win it. We’ve been trying to work on this issue for quite some time now as we acknowledged it as a problem a couple months ago and I think we have gotten a little better.

Overpass has emerged as the best map in your pool, where you currently hold a 19-7 record while taking down the likes of Liquid, MIBR, and Evil Geniuses. Can you touch on why that map seems to be such an outlier for you in terms of consistent performance?

Overpass wasn’t the best map for us when we first created this lineup. It was still a strong map for us but when we went to Europe to bootcamp for Dreamhack Leipzig and IEM Katowice, we were struggling to find consistency on it.

The teams we played in Europe played a much more aggressive style on Overpass so it forced us to be hyper aware of every possible situation that could occur and we had to make sure there were no holes in our default. We started to focus heavily on improving our Overpass going into these events and seeing what would work for us and what wouldn’t in the six weeks we were there, and I think that is a big reason why Overpass is one of our best maps now.

Looking forward, you’re currently playing in EPL and you also are in fifth place in the RMR standings with IEM New York still set to play out. How do you feel about the team’s prospects now that you won’t have Cloud9 behind you?

We will still be finishing EPL and IEM New York as Cloud9 but after these two events, we will no longer be playing under their name. I think playing under such an iconic name in the Counter-Strike scene hurt us a bit as a team. We had big shoes to fill as the previous rosters had a good amount of success and even had the Boston Major run, so the expectations were high.

When we first joined the organization, we were performing well compared to many people's expectations and we were receiving a lot of praise, which boosted our confidence as a team. However, when we started to underperform, there were many people talking bad about us and it affected us a bit mentally. As much as we tried to block out the noise and focus on improving, it got overwhelming at times knowing that you weren’t living up to the standards people set for you. We’ll see how we perform in the upcoming events after IEM New York but I think it will benefit us as a team overall.

United States Josh 'oSee' Ohm
Josh 'oSee' Ohm
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
713
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.11
United Kingdom Henry 'HenryG' Greer
Henry 'HenryG' Greer
Age:
-
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.75
Maps played:
14
KPR:
0.49
DPR:
0.70
APR:
0.16
United Kingdom Alex 'ALEX' McMeekin
Alex 'ALEX' McMeekin
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
955
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.71
APR:
0.13
United States Ricky 'floppy' Kemery
Ricky 'floppy' Kemery
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
597
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.14
Serbia Aleksandar 'kassad' Trifunović
Aleksandar 'kassad' Trifunović
Age:
33
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.75
Maps played:
99
KPR:
0.52
DPR:
0.73
APR:
0.13
South Africa Johnny 'JT' Theodosiou
Johnny 'JT' Theodosiou
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.95
Maps played:
678
KPR:
0.64
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.14
aight
2020-09-18 20:00
Because they know they will not reach the level of their teammates. And in order not to wait in anticipation of the kick, they decided to leave themselves
2020-09-18 20:08
What are you on about?
2020-09-18 20:29
I like the whole story that everything is pretty simple, I mean there is a text directly indicating the problem.Well, it’s rather not something that I don’t like, but that I should add. Perhaps this is an advertisement from 1990, but even in those days the advertisements were not so gloomy and boring.Again, based on the minuses and pluses. But I still think that advertising does not have enough zest for people to remember.I believe that this advertisement is suitable for any age, so this problem is relevant for everyone regardless of age, gender, social status, etc.  Of course, you need to consider the Colgates brand at that time. But I believe that this problem is relevant at all times, since it is considered routine
2020-09-18 20:32
stop doing drugs yo
2020-09-18 20:57
At least this makes more sense than #34.
2020-09-18 21:06
what happened to #1
2020-09-18 22:34
Oh, i SEE.
2020-09-18 20:01
Osee
2020-09-18 20:32
i see but he does not
2020-09-18 20:47
#6
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Estonia xxxkaoz
if u dont want to achive anything then its ok :)
2020-09-18 20:01
+1
2020-09-18 20:38
#113
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North America Swboy1010
Mythic fan pog.
2020-09-18 21:10
more like GOAThic
2020-09-18 21:11
#116
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North America Swboy1010
Like low key tho too bad Mythic is only a streamer team and don’t wanna go into EPL because they want to stream their games.
2020-09-18 21:12
+1
2020-09-18 21:14
+1 classic burger mentality. stay with his mom in home.
2020-09-18 20:45
#123
cArn | 
Philippines J4DEM
Osee is burger? I thought he noodles?
2020-09-18 21:32
#156
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Spain N0Love
Noodles in a burger... Not to be racist or anything but Asian people HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
2020-09-19 10:21
#7
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Europe Cirros_V2
not everyone likes to win and i can respect that
2020-09-18 20:01
that's some backhanded shit bruv
2020-09-18 20:05
he's not wrong tho
2020-09-18 20:33
#114
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North America Swboy1010
Might as well keep the legacy you already have and not stay in a team that will go nowhere.
2020-09-18 21:11
Just like when F0rest left NiP to play with his old mates in Dignitas
2020-09-18 20:38
#9
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United States Masshole
???????????? WHY
2020-09-18 20:01
oSEE would rather enjoy the covid-19 pandemic hype than go to boring ass EU with their dumb ass 'regulations' and 'masks' and shit. makes sense. covid isn't even real anyways
2020-09-18 20:06
#31
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United States Masshole
true! who cars about this china virus
2020-09-18 20:07
+1 for great name
2020-09-18 20:30
read the article idiot
2020-09-18 20:31
would've been nice to see them staying
2020-09-18 20:02
LOL WHAT A FOOL
2020-09-18 20:02
#12
RpK | 
France pol44r
Choosing friends over opportunities can backlash really hard
2020-09-18 20:02
#95
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Finland Khroni
let him do what he wants to do c9 can always find better than them anyway in the near future
2020-09-18 20:50
Shox and smithzz would like to know your location
2020-09-18 22:32
Lmaoooo
2020-09-19 12:08
Lmao
2020-09-19 14:15
Was this a prediction?
2020-09-28 22:27
This roster is quite decent tbh
2020-09-18 20:02
dumb af
2020-09-18 20:02
#15
bew | 
Canada JC_123
time for FPX to sign them and win flashpoint
2020-09-18 20:03
+1
2020-09-18 20:11
#16
Kaze | 
South Africa SimoLe
rip
2020-09-18 20:03
absolutely terrible decision. what does becoming one of the top orgs in NA do for you? nothing. and lol at a team with sonic, JT, and motm sniffing the top
2020-09-18 20:03
Maybe he is content with doing something he likes as long as he can live on it? Not everyone can be the best/greatest and think in absolute terms all the time.
2020-09-18 20:15
content with being a mediocre. No wonder they couldn't achieve anything. Nice mentality for burgers.
2020-09-18 20:47
Says Indonesia. lol
2020-09-19 02:41
i'm sorry, people like him undervalues loyalty, and probably think everything that's shiny in this world is gold, i respect floppy and Osee's decision for staying together because all the good teams in cs is always the ones that never left even when in tough times. Just look at the TSM lineup and now known to be astralis for example. Best of luck for them and i hope that loyalty pays off one day because seeing this kind of loyalty is rare nowadays
2020-09-20 14:01
#20
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Japan Amatsuk1
yea missed chance
2020-09-18 20:03
True partner
2020-09-18 20:03
#22
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Portugal eilzinho
Dumbest move since Kjaerbye leaving Astralis for North
2020-09-18 20:05
except this is a lack of move
2020-09-19 00:14
we enjoy getting paid to lose :)
2020-09-18 20:04
#25
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Finland H0rnPub
NA BIG BRAIN
2020-09-18 20:04
frightened teens with no proper agents/parents to force them to the right decision. "its too big of a risk to stay" how dumb do you have to be to think its a bigger risk to stay than to leave with the rest of the bad c9 roster. wasted talent in a bitchs body/mind, what a shame for osee, floppy and c9.
2020-09-18 20:05
+100
2020-09-18 20:46
+1 so true. Classic teenager mentality who only grow up by playing games.
2020-09-18 20:48
have they gone mental?
2020-09-18 20:06
#32
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Lithuania Edze
Kjaebye v2
2020-09-18 20:07
osee my son yuo are men now yu must choose team and career will u pick future top tier goliat c9 or will you side wit the retarded tier 3 roster u be playin wit oSee......
2020-09-18 20:07
oSee is maybe even the best up and coming player from NA atm. He has never been as good as he is now and the progress he is making is really visible. Those CT sides have been a problem because JT really struggles on it, he is a weak point and a lot of teams use that.
2020-09-18 20:09
#36
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CIS Lcebaby
decline C9 :P he will regret this like Snakebye did
2020-09-18 20:10
#38
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United States inflict
looks like obo is the only na talent that wants to actually win
2020-09-18 20:11
he doesnt have the same teenager mentality as them
2020-09-18 20:49
thank blamef
2020-09-18 20:56
#104
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Philippines EDBX
He's gonna go down as an NA GOAT because of it
2020-09-18 20:56
#39
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United Kingdom TC10
feelsbad
2020-09-18 20:11
imagine one of the most popular figures in csgo approaches you with one of the better coaches in the scene and they tell you "you can play under a top5 IGL for more money" and you say "too risky, better stay out of top20 with my friends"
2020-09-18 20:11
#47
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Finland 0lter
yup hahahaha
2020-09-18 20:16
hacker.
2020-09-18 20:46
he is way immature
2020-09-18 20:48
he has no education. what did you expect
2020-09-18 20:55
Cant blame him. Sometimes the environment itself is what makes them play at their best. Like s1mple want to play near his home or CIS.
2020-09-18 20:14
bad comparison, he was a god with liquid too
2020-09-18 20:33
But he get better under navi
2020-09-18 20:35
well thats because his teammates are inconsistent and useless 70% of the time the liquid he was part of at least kind of looked like a team
2020-09-18 20:53
Yeah but he play at his best as individual player
2020-09-18 20:59
wrong, they are consistently toxic. Flamie is the worst. I clipped part of a match where they won the match and he was still malding and wouldn't give his team mates a fist bump when they put their hand out, just stormed off
2020-09-20 12:21
yeah i've seen that, he stormed off on perfecto immature & dysfunctional. imagine behaving like this on a casual work place you'd get booted fast enough
2020-09-20 12:30
tf u talking about, s1mple left for Navi cause Liquid was a fallen team
2020-09-18 20:50
He said that at certain interview i forgot and he say he probably wont play in any EU or NA team after liquid
2020-09-18 20:53
he had issues with koosta. play in home was one of the reasons ofc. But s1mple clearly have bigger ambitions. If Navi going down too I can see he wants to move. Don't compare him with these immature teenagers.
2020-09-18 20:57
s1mple left Liquid because he did not feel at home in NA and he missed his family and friends
2020-09-18 20:54
Smart to jump off HenryG's flaming roller coaster before it launches off the track and into the mountain
2020-09-18 20:12
#43
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France Uexo
Oooh that does make sense now
2020-09-18 20:12
#44
arT | 
Russia bult0
That's sad to see, floppy is an insane support player. But respect for them
2020-09-18 20:13
#46
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Finland 0lter
Lost the game but atleast we had fun :DDDDD What a nonce
2020-09-18 20:15
#136
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Indonesia DioBrando
Look like ENCE then
2020-09-18 23:46
Ya lol good luck spending your career in tier 3
2020-09-18 20:16
I am 99% sure that this is a really bad decision by oSee and Floppy.
2020-09-18 20:17
#50
VINI | 
Brazil 1930
nice! now i'm a fan of oSee and floppy!
2020-09-18 20:17
#51
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Portugal dracø
Respect for not being paycheck stealers.
2020-09-18 20:17
Just because you enjoy playing with your teammates doesnt mean your teammates are going no where when you have a chance. Bad choice
2020-09-18 20:20
#53
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Turkey KhT
Are you guys idiot?you have opportunity to show yourself and you just threw it.Well wasted player who is gonna play in T50 and retires.Just fucked hisself.Bye we wont miss you.Next talent pls
2020-09-18 20:20
#54
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Denmark Alphamon
This is like qikert rejecting Na`Vi when they asked him to join. Look where AVANGAR/VP is now.
2020-09-18 20:22
damn i'd forgotten all about that stupid ass decision. in hindsight, AVANGAR were doing better than Na'Vi at the time, you could argue. qikert can't see the future but he should've thought a bit more about the offer he got
2020-09-18 20:34
i remember all the stupid avangar/qikert cis fanboy accounts flaming me for saying that it was a dumb move to reject an offer from navi and look now navi is still navi and gets carried by s1mple and VP not even top30 anymore
2020-09-18 20:50
#55
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Why is this new breed of CS pros so dumb? First Qikert, now these two. Getting such prestigious opportunities to represent biggest orgs in their respective regions which are rich af giving you a chance to play along side some of the best players in the world but you refuse to take that opportunity because you believe the team synergy won't be the same? Fam you didn't even gave it a try and have potentially locked in yourself to be stuck with the players below average than you are.
2020-09-18 20:23
#56
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Europe t.o.p
"We still think we have the potential to become one of the best teams in North America." Delusional
2020-09-18 20:24
not really. being one of the best teams in na isnt anything to brag about.
2020-09-18 20:40
burger brain
2020-09-18 20:25
braindead decision
2020-09-18 20:26
oSee said he and floopy will consider if the team has 3 core player and remain in NA for the try out. Then may be Gen.G can do -s0m and add +oSee +floopy?
2020-09-18 20:26
#161
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United States mr_wood1
who would igl?
2020-09-19 18:46
kawhi leonard style decision...
2020-09-18 20:29
#67
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Sweden RaaCCooN
GOOD
2020-09-18 20:32
So they weren't pro enough?
2020-09-18 20:33
#73
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Portugal joaosenra
he is not that good as well so good for cloud9, but floppy yes is a nice option
2020-09-18 20:36
dumb move, he really thinks he's going to get anywhere with jt, motm, and sonic?
2020-09-18 20:37
cooper
2020-09-18 20:39
OK
2020-09-18 20:40
+1!
2020-09-18 21:15
Didn't answer that last question lmao so I guess they haven't found an org yet :O
2020-09-18 20:41
you missed big chance boy. Stay being a mom kid in your home while others take the risk to become success later. Typical burger mentality.
2020-09-18 20:44
respcect the love he got for his homies
2020-09-18 20:43
+1
2020-09-18 20:55
i mean alright. getting a little less enjoyment in a new team but having bigger chances of winning tournaments and also getting more money seems better to me.
2020-09-18 20:45
this happens when u start earning money and feel like i can do anything now.... stupid decision clearly shows how immature he is
2020-09-18 20:48
#94
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Philippines EDBX
Imagine turning down the chance to live abroad while young , make insane money, and have a shot to be the best in your field to stay at home and pug with your friends. Absolutely unbelievable.
2020-09-18 20:50
Gotta have respecc 4 a homie who bless da gang over da cash 100 100
2020-09-18 20:55
Respect for dumbness, I don't think that happens often.
2020-09-18 21:24
I like the story but the reality is cruel. I think floppy and oSee's level is definitely better than three other teammates. Reject this offer is an immature decision. Unless the major spot can be kept through next year.
2020-09-18 20:57
Lol ok, if you don't wanna win shit, then keep doing what you're doing. np
2020-09-18 20:59
why want to keep osee but not floppy?????
2020-09-18 21:00
It's fynny how he described JT as pretty much perfect coach. Love him however you want, his stats in 2020 are atrocious and that is ONLY versus NA competition. End of story. I wish them luck anyway, they had really big shoes to fill. Not sure who can pick them up tho. //e I respect the decision to stay comfortable, but he is too young to realise that things are hard, if you wanna reach newer heights. He obviously should risk it. This team has potential to be a decent T2 team at best, unless sonic and JT step up quite a bit.
2020-09-18 21:06
WHATDOINK>????? Wasted talent D:
2020-09-18 21:19
Respect, I like the current roster, they can improve
2020-09-18 21:24
Loser mentality not surprising
2020-09-18 21:30
Bad decision for me but respect
2020-09-18 21:39
In other words, they didn't believe in themselves. Good to know.
2020-09-18 21:41
in other words NA CS in a nutshell
2020-09-18 21:53
#127
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Sweden botl0f
incredibly stupid decision. who in the right mind would reject this offer when c9 is rebuilding with kassad and alex. why would anyone stay with these tier 10 south african bots.
2020-09-18 22:01
#128
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United States diimey
mistake imo
2020-09-18 22:05
Idiots. Imagine declining free money and become a jobless teenager without a college degree.
2020-09-18 22:06
#130
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Brazil victorhsl
To be fair, he and floppy would've been the most pressured players in a "stellar" lineup if you consider that the hype on the new C9 is already very high. Also, I respect that he have so much belief in his current teammates, and if things doesn't work out he's young and talented enough to explore other options.
2020-09-18 22:12
I used to be fan of floppy before this interview
2020-09-18 22:10
me too....he came off as a dick...
2020-09-19 00:44
USA BRAIN
2020-09-18 23:06
#135
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Indonesia DioBrando
Welcome to Gen.G OSee
2020-09-18 23:24
good decision
2020-09-19 00:14
osee and floppy are afraid of change plain and simple....sometimes change is good and elevates a player to the next level...they should have put personal feeling aside and do whats best for their career...its business nothing personal...i think they blew a good opportunity...
2020-09-19 00:43
nosee
2020-09-19 00:48
Questionable move
2020-09-19 01:05
#143
HS | 
Europe nvamov
Questionable? More like retarded move
2020-09-19 01:07
#144
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World Beard43
What an opportunity to turn down, wow. Wow.
2020-09-19 01:29
some ppl cant even perform well in environment where they don't get used to be, hopefully this decision does something
2020-09-19 01:39
“He’s constantly bringing new strategies and ideas to practice so we’re not as predictable and he’s always the one to do the “dirty work.” He’s always finding ways to try and improve us as a team“ Quote from Osee about JT who is dragging so far behind kill wise of everyone on the server, to Osee’s point sounds like JT would be a fantastic coach, but as a player its kinda important to be able to click a few heads.
2020-09-19 01:59
Big mistake
2020-09-19 02:00
Those kids think e-sports is playing with friends. They still didn't realize that is business
2020-09-19 02:17
Idiots
2020-09-19 02:30
I don't really rate Osee but Floppy would have been a solid piece for the new roster. For his sake he should snake out of this lineup with the quickness.
2020-09-19 02:45
all the NA retards will think this is wise and individual decision....my ass u idiots it is the dumbest decision ever
2020-09-19 06:54
UNDERDOG
2020-09-19 08:22
I can totally see oSee's point and understand teams will to stick together, but... How do they know they actually _can_ play together for a longer period when the new owner might not see it as best solution for them. Sure, maybe for first 6 months, or even a year, but as soon as there is no results to back the huge investment of a whole team, the owner is going to want to either sell whole bunch or reform lineup. Depending on the options of the contracts. The joining to new c9 roster may have been the best option for their future to have a shot at high tier cs and more stable future.
2020-09-19 08:26
in b4 we never see him play again
2020-09-19 09:16
wow imagine wanting to lose
2020-09-19 13:56
#159
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
Well i hope the best for them, at least they brought back some glory to c9 after the boston major crew left
2020-09-19 13:58
#165
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Canada BunnyD_
oSee and Floppy were the best player in the sloppy Cloud9 roster. I felt like oSee could've been the next big awper. He's flick were hell goood
2020-09-21 23:27
kek
2020-09-28 20:05
this aged well
2020-09-28 20:05
xa.
2020-09-28 20:06
oof
2020-09-28 20:57
#170
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Denmark Zorrondo
KEKW
2020-09-28 20:59
Yeah...
2020-09-28 20:59
Backstabed
2020-09-28 22:20
Backstabbed big time
2020-09-28 22:53
#175
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Brazil morf_
floppy is gonna leave you alone now mate lmao
2020-09-28 22:55
lmao floppy just gave him the finger 😭
2020-09-29 01:01
loool
2020-09-29 01:07
#178
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Brazil setsz
OMEGALUL
2020-09-29 01:16
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