forZe challenge lmbt's ban for spectator bug use

The Russian organisation provided an explanation for three of the four cases involving the 33-year-old coach.

forZe said on Monday that they are "extremely surprised" with the 7.5-month ban imposed by the Esports Integrity Commission (ESIC) on assistant coach Sergey "⁠lmbt⁠" Bezhanov for using the spectator bug. In a statement, the CIS organisation leapt to the defense of the Ukrainian coach, who has four single-round cases against him, three of which involving the BLAST Pro Series Moscow 2019 runners-up.

According to ESIC, lmbt used the bug for the first time in September 2015 while he was coaching HellRaisers in a FACEIT League closed qualifier match against Natus Vincere. He used it again almost five years later, in August 2020, in a FunSpark ULTI qualifying match against Nordavind and on two maps of an Eden Arena Malta Vibes Cup 9 series against MIBR.

lmbt was on Monday banned for 7.5 months

"During the episodes with the bug in the match against the MIBR team, lmbt was working in the Maincast analytics studio," forZe state. "It should be noted that Sergey joined the analytics studio even before the start of our match, having previously logged into the server as a coach. We have the video recordings from the analyst desk from the same time when the bug happened. In them, we can see that he is watching forZe’s match on his phone. And also we have the official confirmation from Malta Vibes."

forZe added that lmbt came across the bug in the match against Nordavind and was only able get rid of it more than a minute into the CT pistol round. They also posted a series of screenshots from other matches played by the team on the same map, Dust2, showing the same set-up during the pistol round. This, forZe believe, proves that "the episode did not affect the outcome of the round and the match", and that lmbt did not pass information to his players.

"Sergei "lmbt" Bezhanov remains the team’s coach," forZe stressed. "The organization and the players support the coach as much as possible and hope that this situation will end fairly, because he was accused without a preliminary investigation and a request for an explanation. Moreover, they intend to give a ban for 7 months, without taking into account any circumstances. In this regard, we will defend our position and, if necessary, will contact the appropriate authorities for further investigation."

In a Twitlonger post, lmbt criticised ESIC for conducting the investigation without contacting the involved parties and noted that he will not accept his punishment. "I'm ready to receive a fair penalty, but the key word here is 'fair'", he wrote.

Ukraine Sergey 'lmbt' Bezhanov
Sergey 'lmbt' Bezhanov
Age:
33
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.67
Maps played:
18
KPR:
0.46
DPR:
0.72
APR:
0.12
#1
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Malaysia 3letterslol
Good luck in that case
2020-09-28 13:13
#27
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Brazil ZerongBr
hes right though how could you give a punishment if you cant even defend yourself? esic is delusional
2020-09-28 13:30
they gave an appeals process and not everything will be perfect, but you dont see most coaching appealing them only Imbt. Not even Guerri for now
2020-09-28 13:42
#34
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Brazil ZerongBr
guerri should be sleeping
2020-09-28 13:44
If you are sleeping when something like this is coming out that is just not a good look mate. He knows that he was accused he should be ready to defend himself or at least give his side of the story.
2020-09-28 13:45
#36
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Brazil ZerongBr
do you know that it is 7am where they are now? probably celebrated a lot yesterday and should have slept about 2am
2020-09-28 13:48
I understand, but imagine your job is on the line would you just sleep through that kind of report?
2020-09-28 15:05
#57
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Brazil ZerongBr
maybe he doesnt sleep with a cellphone next to him?
2020-09-28 15:08
they announced this 3 days before mate are you serious?
2020-09-28 15:36
#79
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Australia CaZeR01
So you want him to stay awake 3 days?
2020-09-29 04:33
bruh you are something else man
2020-09-29 15:41
#87
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France andyj
No they’re right lmao. I’d rather sleep so I can defend myself with a night of good rest instead of trying to put together coherent sentences after staying awake over 24 hours
2020-09-30 00:57
maybe I have to explain this. Lets say 3 days before your company says the the main HQ will make big announcements on an investigation of wrong doing. You know that people have pointed fingers and said that you might be involved. The document itself will be released at 5am your time, but at least you know ahead of time thus you can adequately prepare beforehand knowing the exact date and time. he fucking knew for 3 days you prepare for this shit, but it seems like guerri has accepted his punishment anyways.
2020-09-30 01:45
#39
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Europe t.o.p
What
2020-09-28 13:52
you dumb
2020-09-28 14:47
he already posted a video literally proving his innocence, many coaches that didnt exploit the bug are getting banned, esic are fucking clowns
2020-09-28 15:23
many? Imbt, Guerri (how is that video 100% proof idk but ok), Robban? 3 out of 37 and their innocence isnt proven anyways. The burden is on them to prove they didnt cheat because you look and see that they are in a place they shouldnt be
2020-09-28 15:36
because that video has team comms idiot he said 2 words the entire game and it was about their teams economy and staying calm
2020-09-28 15:52
thanks for the nice words. ESIC have 99% watched it already and still came to that decision. I have more trust in ESIC rather than guerri. We will see when Furia lodge a complaint or try to overturn it
2020-09-28 15:53
because they are idiots too keep believing 50 yo granda who didnt even launch cs once they are not the ones to ban them
2020-09-28 15:54
ok bro nice civil conversation please also change your flag to BR. If only 1 coach is proven innocent I dont see why they cant overturn it anyways. Also, Furia have said fuck all even though they knew DAYS earlier that report was coming out
2020-09-28 15:56
#82
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United Kingdom novaseer
...but you need to launch CS to view demos...
2020-09-29 11:40
it's like police taking you to jail directly from home, without going to court defending yourself
2020-09-28 13:59
No, its more like police saw you do something illegal, but there is a chance what you did was legal they didnt see 100% of the context only 90%.
2020-09-28 15:56
#2
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Australia Boostral
Nice
2020-09-28 13:13
#3
f0rest | 
Sweden Goudi
BAN BAN BAN BAN BAN BAN BAN BAN
2020-09-28 13:13
F
2020-09-28 13:13
lol
2020-09-28 13:14
ok
2020-09-28 13:14
F for best ua coach
2020-09-28 13:14
"best"
2020-09-28 13:16
#31
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Ukraine Najara
Best is Kane
2020-09-28 13:37
beer king
2020-09-29 20:52
Yo les noobs Relly cool that the org steps up for their coach with evidence he did nothing wrong. Very strong sign!
2020-09-28 13:16
Well he has a strong proof, ban should be reduced to minimal
2020-09-28 13:15
ForZe without lmbt: #12 ForZe with lmbt: #25 Hope ForZe will kick him :)
2020-09-28 13:19
#17
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United States xtkjdtr001
Yep That's how it works! Totally his fault!
2020-09-28 13:19
Fact
2020-09-28 13:20
mb ban all the coaches, and only 20% checked and 37 coaches suspended, practically 30% tier 1-2. It is so 0head to ban coaches for in game bug.
2020-09-28 13:17
Very very strong proof I hope he gets unbanned
2020-09-28 13:17
how credible is the investigation then if they ban a guy who wasn’t even at his computer
2020-09-28 13:17
#25
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Brazil pooternd
the dude investigating is just speed forwarding the whole demo in coach POV, this is so bad
2020-09-28 13:26
#15
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Brunei Sk8erBoi
oof
2020-09-28 13:18
kekw
2020-09-28 13:19
ESIC get fucked
2020-09-28 13:21
bit.ly? Do they really need ad money?
2020-09-28 13:22
bit.ly is to short your url link you don't get redirected to another site which shows you ads or something like that.
2020-09-28 13:27
Tweet length limit: 280 Tweet length without link: 252 Non-shortened link length: 40
2020-09-28 13:27
#21
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Other JeNd4
+1, sue the f**k outta this sc*m
2020-09-28 13:22
#22
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Brazil arunino
almost all popular coaches are banned...
2020-09-28 13:24
"This, forZe believe, proves that "the episode did not affect the outcome of the round and the match", and that lmbt did not pass information to his players." ah come on, just stop making clowns out of yourself an think for a second. even if, why didnt he just disconnect? they have literally no evidence that he did not pass info to the players whereas ESIC has enough evidence that lmbt was aware of this bug. just stop
2020-09-28 13:26
#32
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Ukraine Najara
finally smart post +1
2020-09-28 13:39
tbh it's the only case of trying to actually give proofs with the indentical setups etc so there might be something in to it. the ones where coaches say "i muted myself/alt tab all game" are 100% bs and they should be banned for life.
2020-09-28 13:53
i agree that its one of the more believable excuses but still if one person comes out and tries to avoid the ban everyone else will come out of their holes crying about unfairness as well i am almost 100% certain that no ban will be revoked unless the org provides video and/or teamspeak evidence that the coach was not using his computer or did not give info to the players
2020-09-28 13:55
I think their proof is sufficient, there is a vod where lmbt is legit in the Russian broadcast stream of a different match that he is an analyst role in. The match he was analysing / commentating was going on the same time the forze match was being played
2020-09-28 14:01
this is good evidence for this case, i agree however for the match against nordavind he said "It was not possible to get rid of the bug for 61 seconds" if you feel something is going wrong why dont you just reconnect? no you just watch 61 seconds and see what happens. they say he did not give info but there is no proof to that
2020-09-28 14:04
Yep idk if I misunderstood but from lmbt's twitlonger I read. He explained that he would accept one of the cases but not the following 3 (the mibr forze match) since he was accused in 4 seperate cases. I assume the one he would accept was the one where he was coaching HR in 2016 and he's contesting the mibr and nordavind matches. I feel like he should be accounted for the norda + HR case and drop the 2 cases on the mibr forze match
2020-09-28 14:08
+1 seeing the current evidence i could get behind this
2020-09-28 14:44
yeah that would be the best approach. cheating is so overlooked in esports anyway. pricepools are up to bar with many srsly taken regular sports yet the scene jeopardizes the integrity of the game all the time with fishy behavior.
2020-09-28 14:03
This one makes sense though... he wasnt even at his pc, he was at the analyst centre and there's comms proving he was there and not at the pc...
2020-10-07 14:57
#28
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Ukraine YUR4S
f0rze disband
2020-09-28 13:30
#29
LETN1 | 
Poland Szcz
fight them LET'S GO FORZE
2020-09-28 13:34
get the popcorn, mens)))))
2020-09-28 13:34
i think guerri should appeal the ban too,but he's prob sleeping rn
2020-09-28 13:49
i believe guerri's excuse, however its still possible that he lied, there is simply no waterproof evidence that he did not abuse it so i think the ban is justified
2020-09-28 13:53
But there isn't waterproof evidence that he used Innocent 'til proven guilty applies were here?
2020-09-28 14:14
there is evidence enough i'd say: - he encountered the bug before - he has been on the server for several rounds, if not the entire game thats enough for ESIC and i agree with them there, he could have just reconnected and we would not need to discuss it. also he could have told the public that this bug exists - everyone else could too, but still being quiet about this matter should have a punishment as well. if somebody wouldve told the public 2 years ago we wouldnt be having this big of a scandal. again i believe in guerri's excuse, it sounds and looks plausible but it sadly is not enough to fully free him of the charges, i just hope furia keeps him as coach
2020-09-28 14:24
Only way to prove innocent is when you call and admin and talk about it and the admin confirms that the coach tried EVERYTHING to play fair in this situation. All other is bullshit. "because he was accused without a preliminary investigation and a request for an explanation" Sorry but it is your job to talk to them not the other way around.
2020-09-28 13:54
#40
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Europe t.o.p
GL
2020-09-28 13:52
actually innocent coach for once
2020-09-28 14:24
#56
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Russia KaStrEek
why?
2020-09-28 15:07
I wonder if I may assume that general attitude towards those coming from CIS is co-related with what those countries' govs are doing nowadays? I realize that touching upon politics isn't a right thing there, yet just want to know whether that's actually the case here.
2020-09-28 15:58
Take the ban like a man, what a cheat for using the coach bug and didn't even confess during the confession period! Forze all in on it obviously xaxaxa
2020-09-28 16:00
typical russian brain
2020-09-28 17:26
Except he did just not publicly? That's why he has a 25% reduced ban, you would know that if you actually read the article with a list of banned coaches or a document from ESIC.
2020-09-28 21:30
Another innocent coach? I don't know, the scene is really weird atm.
2020-09-28 16:00
I knew that lmbt is innocent, the best csgo coach wouldn't cheat
2020-09-28 16:54
#71
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United States Gonginator
ESIC, Michal Slowinski, and Steve Dudenhoeffer are all being silly and wasting their time. What is the point in conducting a witch hunt and banning coaches for something they did a long time ago? The only people that should be getting banned are coaches who used the bug in the current year. Anything else prior to this year should serve as a warning that proper punishment will be served to coaches who are using it for an unfair advantage. Good riddance, they must have nothing better to do.
2020-09-28 17:26
#73
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India Smauxx
+1 this is one of the most stupid thing I have ever seen.
2020-09-28 18:36
#74
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Indonesia begalracer
Bro, 0 IQ in this comment
2020-09-28 20:06
#78
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United States Gonginator
It's a witch hunt at this point, so they may as well just ban every coach. Banning coaches for doing something that doesn't affect the current year of competition in CSGO is pointless. What is said and done cannot be changed. ESIC can individually reach out to the offending coaches who did something prior to this year and point out their specific offenses, then let them know "Hey, you did this this and this in the year of *blank* ; let this be a warning that in the future you will be banned if you continue this behavior".
2020-09-28 22:08
#80
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Switzerland f3ni_
Well, I see your point. Over here in Switzerland, we've got a law that states that illegal actions that happened 3 yrs ago can't be charged anymore with imprisonment etc. But if they wouldn't ban them, ppl would be more likely to use bugs and cheats, hoping they fly under the radar.
2020-09-29 04:46
#81
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United States Gonginator
I thought about that too...and in all honesty, they have good reason to ban all of these coaches. However, their current actions - ESIC and all other parties involved in the "witch hunt"...I just can't help but think that they could've done it in a different and better manner.
2020-09-29 09:59
This is like a Chinese election lol.
2020-09-28 17:33
incels michal slowinski and steve dudenhoffer have nothing better to do ahahahaha enjoy watching hours and hours of demos u losers
2020-09-28 20:12
#76
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Indonesia begalracer
Welp, this is shoe to lick because you enjoying someone using bug.
2020-09-28 20:46
He could let Valve know about the bug 5 years ago and everything would be fine.
2020-09-29 11:44
Are you okay? Several people told valve years ago the bug existed... That's why starix accused flusha of cheating and valve letting it go... he was one of the ones who knew it back in 2016 and reported it to valve but they did fuck all so to him the same applies to flusha cheating... if they knew about the coaching bug but did nothing did they also know about pros cheating but did nothing?
2020-10-07 14:59
#84
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Russia Bogzz1k
#freeLMBT
2020-09-29 11:48
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