RobbaN on ESIC ruling: "I feel this is totally unfair"

The former FaZe coach has given his side of what happened in the 2017 ECS match that resulted in a 5.5-month ban.

Robert "⁠RobbaN⁠" Dahlström, one of the 37 coaches or former coaches who were on Monday banned by the Esports Integrity Commission (ESIC) for the use of the spectator bug, has issued a statement regarding the one instance in 2017 for which he has been handed a 5.5-month suspension.

The 35-year-old, who is currently a manager for FaZe, was found to have used the bug for 17 rounds in a 1-16 defeat to Astralis in ECS Season 3, in May 2017.

RobbaN believes the ESIC's ruling against him is not fair

"I want to explain today's announcement from my point of view as I feel this is totally unfair," he says. "I directly joined the coach slot and I see that my point of view was stuck over the A site on Train. I am then reconnecting a few times and I'm still stuck. The players join and the match is about to start and I think that my view will go back to my team when they start the match, as there is always a restart before the match goes live. It’s not happening and I'm still stuck, so at that point I make what I consider to be an honorable decision and tell my team I have this view, I mute my microphone and I don't talk at all during this full map.

"The following day we have another match and I get this view again. I now figure it’s not a one time thing, it’s a real bug. I immediately write the admin directly that I had the same bug the match before, and now again. I clearly state exactly which view I had the match before and that I now have the same view. This time I reconnect after my players joined and it worked fine. After this time, I don’t think I ever see it again."

RobbaN's plead is centred around the fact that he did what he believed was right in unfamiliar circumstances. "I did not ask for this advantage and tried to get rid of this view before the match started," he says. "In the heat of the moment, I felt like the most fair decision was to mute my microphone and to not provide any info to my team, as I was stuck in that view and watched the match from this angle, which sucked as I couldn’t even say anything at all. I could not help my team. For someone with an understanding of CS, you can see I’m not abusing this bug. The tactics are called in freezetime by our in-game leader and are not changed by the view that I had."

The Swede, who represented storied teams like Begrip, SK and NiP during his playing days, is worried that his reputation will be tainted by being put in the same group as coaches who willingly and repeatedly abused the bug.

"Unfortunately, some of you might still think I abused this bug," he adds. "I’ve been around the CS community for 20 years, more or less, see myself as a very loyal guy... and now my name is listed among others who actually abused and cheated, which makes me feel sick. I feel I’m being punished for something I did not do and that it should be obvious in my case."

ESIC's investigation, which is still underway, does offer a way for affected parties to appeal the rulings through the Independent Disciplinary Panel.

Sweden Robert 'RobbaN' Dahlström
Robert 'RobbaN' Dahlström
Age:
35
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.91
Maps played:
3
KPR:
0.47
DPR:
0.55
Agreed. Robban did nothing wrong.
2020-09-28 12:31
21 replies
+1
2020-09-28 12:33
1 reply
Snitches get stitches.
2020-09-28 12:33
#10
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Denmark NaggingMum
Pardon Robban!
2020-09-28 12:33
Chiter.
2020-09-28 12:53
#73
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Netherlands Zimbamwe
+1
2020-09-28 12:53
ESIC is a joke coaches should sue them
2020-09-28 12:56
3 replies
+1 all but zoner would win lol
2020-09-28 19:04
Name and flag checked. 0 IQ comment.
2020-09-28 20:43
russia should be banned from all future games
2020-09-29 00:29
Yeah they wouldn't have lost 16-1 lol
2020-09-28 13:35
+1 ESIC is a joke, it's like having a trial in china
2020-09-28 14:04
+1
2020-09-28 14:56
+1 These are the facts -only happened 1 game -former team members to vouch he didn't speak -thought it was a 1 time thing, reported it the next time he encountered it -they fucking got DESTROYED in this game, so this story CLEARLY makes sense
2020-09-28 15:28
7 replies
+1
2020-09-28 15:56
+1
2020-09-28 16:28
+1
2020-09-28 16:55
+1
2020-09-28 17:52
+1
2020-09-28 20:35
#234
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India daksh29
+1
2020-09-29 00:50
+1
2020-09-29 19:50
#217
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United States Relunk
+100
2020-09-28 18:24
RobbaN legend
2020-09-28 12:31
#4
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Malaysia Suno[t]
+1
2020-09-28 12:32
#5
Peewie | 
Faroe Islands surni
expected
2020-09-28 12:32
#7
towa | 
Estonia rafio
get owned kid
2020-09-28 12:33
CRY
2020-09-28 12:33
#12
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Finland Vkims
Legend full support king
2020-09-28 12:34
Sucks for him but there's a hard line and as long as he can not prove that he didn't abuse it the ban should remain.
2020-09-28 12:34
23 replies
#61
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Spain N0Love
+1 I know some of the guys on this list are probably kinda innocent and didnt actually exploit the bug but since there's no clear proof of he muting himself and not gaining any advantage of it I understand ESIC's point of just banning everyone for some months
2020-09-28 12:47
14 replies
Yeah cause putting 1+1 together takes the massive amount of 2 brain cells, you must be 1 and a half short, amazing. THEY LOST 16-1 do you really think that would happen if the bug was abused? Fuck me the world is going straight to hell
2020-09-28 13:13
7 replies
+1
2020-09-28 14:07
Now go get some brain cells and learn the definition of 'evidence'.
2020-09-28 14:29
4 replies
This is evidence. It's what you'd call 'circumstantial evidence'. The score-line makes sense, his teammates vouched for him and the next time it happened, he went to the organizers and reported it. To me, it seems like I'd give him the benefit of the doubt and not consider him a cheater. He takes the ban (I don't think it matters much to him anyways) and just doesn't want to be seen as a cheater.
2020-09-28 17:54
Fuck off what more evidence do you want a) they lost 1-16 which would be nearly impossible with the bug b) his story adds up. c) he never used it again. Also d) he doesnt even care because he is not coaching
2020-09-29 08:42
2 replies
Now go get some brain cells and learn the definition of 'evidence'. None of what you said can be considered as one. Btw, just for your ruski brain: I'm only stating facts, I don't think he deserves a ban
2020-09-29 09:13
1 reply
Yeah ruski gtfo fake portugal
2020-09-29 12:20
+1
2020-09-29 07:45
But you are innocent until proven guilty, not other way around. It is not proven that he got advantage. He should not have to prove that he is innocent
2020-09-28 16:22
2 replies
#186
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Spain N0Love
It is proven that he did use the bug so...
2020-09-28 16:34
1 reply
It is proven that the bug randomly happened to him. It is not proven that he gave info to his team.
2020-09-28 16:39
Regin used it and reported and was one of the first to speak up and get20 months like WTF
2020-09-28 19:05
I mean, them losing 16-1 is kinda proof.
2020-09-29 04:34
#243
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Europe lalt
In real world, you are supposed to provide evidence to prove for being guilty. Not other way around. ESIC cant prove robban actually abused the bug and evidence suggest heavily he didnt.
2020-09-29 11:05
the fact that they lost 1-16 provides more than enough evidence that he did not use it
2020-09-28 13:11
7 replies
I would think that too, and it's only the one match that they caught him on but still, it would be unfair to every other coach if he were not to be banned just like the others.
2020-09-28 13:40
3 replies
true but the whole scene knows that robban is trustworthy. anyways, he has not coached since the end of 2018 so I don't think many people would mind because the band only effects his reputation
2020-09-28 13:50
2 replies
i think hes the manager of faze clan cs
2020-09-28 15:46
1 reply
yeh but so it only effects his rep , so i dont think other coaches will care
2020-09-28 15:46
+1 Coaches who reported this bug should be pardoned. I can't comprehend the fact that people are getting banned because of VALVE's mistakes.. For the same reason i have never understood why teams who uses boosts that give an advantage should be handed an L. It's VALVE's responsibility to make sure that maps are tested and clear of bugs. Same goes for the game.
2020-09-28 19:46
2 replies
#226
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Europe z_ro
+999999
2020-09-28 20:16
There were multible Coaches who did Report it, ETC RobbaN and Pita. And they GOT bigger bans thatn the likes of Hundun.
2020-09-29 06:35
pause the game. call admin. ez.
2020-09-28 12:34
6 replies
What are they gonna do, stop the whole tournament because the coach cant switch view? He muted himself and reported the bug, but it seems nobody listened anyway. It was an online match, sure an admin will drive to his home to inspect the computer ...
2020-09-28 16:30
5 replies
Yeah, maybe make a fuss about it? Provide evidence that he messaged admins? Could have come out before the investigation was even made public putting his story out? It's poorly handled, even tho his explanations sound like he never did shit wrong
2020-09-28 17:40
3 replies
I mean as soon as you figure out ok that's not normal, there's a bug here, why take years and being convicted until u speak out about it xd
2020-09-28 17:41
#241
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World Vidua
CS has so many bugs that you'd have to archive screen shots from every game to cover your ass.
2020-09-29 08:51
1 reply
That's not even vaguely true and you're a retard. There aren't countless bugs in the game that let coaches spectate the enemy teams moves.
2020-09-29 11:34
Yes. They would stop the match. The coach is in an unfair position. Players call tech pauses all the time because their mouse is skipping or their keyboard isn't working. What are they gonna do, stop the whole match just because a player can't play properly? And they wouldn't need to call an admin out to his house. Why would they if they literally don't need to. They would just tell him to reconnect and make a note of what happened. That would fix the entire situation. But no, he decides that he has to sit out the entire match and do absolutely nothing for his team. That makes no sense.
2020-09-29 19:24
respect robban >:(
2020-09-28 12:34
#17
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Serbia LtN))
using coach bug while losing 16-1 OMG
2020-09-28 12:34
7 replies
#52
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Cook Islands amazed1337
Proves that he didn't use it.
2020-09-28 12:43
5 replies
proves faze was/is dogshit
2020-09-28 12:52
4 replies
LMFAOO THEY LITERALLY WON THAT EVENT HAHAHAHAHHAA , new fag spotted
2020-09-28 13:12
1 reply
triggered
2020-09-28 19:55
Lol 😂
2020-09-28 14:11
They literally won The event like wtf?
2020-09-28 16:42
#57
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Sweden swedz4
looool
2020-09-28 12:46
#17
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Serbia LtN))
shit i double clicked
2020-09-28 12:35
The 35-year-old, who is currently a manager for FaZe, was found to have used the bug for 17 rounds in a 1-16 defeat to Astralis in ECS Season 3, in May 2017. xd
2020-09-28 12:34
5 replies
#24
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Slovakia Daev0n
How could they even think he communicated with the team in that match? It's downright stupid.
2020-09-28 12:36
4 replies
Yeah, but idk if you can believe him. Everything could be false and he should have wrote the admin in that match. Why tf would he just mute the mic in a full game without doing anything?
2020-09-28 12:40
3 replies
Stupid decision but you can't lose 1-16 with info so for sure he didn't pass any info to the players.
2020-09-28 12:42
1 reply
#150
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Slovakia Daev0n
+1 I wouldn't say anything if they won 16-1 but you really can't be that bad that you lose a match 16-1 with all of the info.
2020-09-28 14:18
"I immediately write the admin directly that I had the same bug the match before, and now again. I clearly state exactly which view I had the match before and that I now have the same view. This time I reconnect after my players joined and it worked fine. After this time, I don’t think I ever see it again." U need to read everything...He said that he had the bug on match before and admins didnt do anything about it cuz faze lost hard and it was stupid to think that he was using the bug to get advantage.
2020-09-28 17:43
#21
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Slovakia Daev0n
God damn witch hunt. ESIC trying to be relevant for once so they ban 40 coaches.
2020-09-28 12:35
#25
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North America 007DBR9
lmao give the poor man a break
2020-09-28 12:36
Unfair... yeah for the other teams. Why he doesn't call an admin. I don't believe people when they said: "I did nothing". When you did nothing call an admin it is their job to deal with bugs, not yours. So the Ban is deserved. Or can he tell why he didn't call an admin at the first time the bug appeared?ß As an Adult you can expect that you do the right thing. If an Admin said "Okay we deal with it this way" then his Story with "mute" himself is okay. Without an admit it is just a nice story.
2020-09-28 12:41
14 replies
Well, he actually left the game. "I immediately write the admin directly that I had the same bug the match before, and now again. I clearly state exactly which view I had the match before and that I now have the same view. This time I reconnect after my players joined and it worked fine. After this time, I don’t think I ever see it again."" Maybe read before you post a stupid comment. EDIT: I thought you meant the other map.
2020-09-28 12:46
11 replies
That was the second time. Not the match he was banned for. maybe read again before you answer to correct comments.
2020-09-28 12:42
8 replies
2020-09-28 12:45
7 replies
And what? I never said he didn't call an admin second time. His job is to call an admin at the first time not second. You can expect that from an adult that he knows what he should do. Second thing is, when he mutes himself why he didn't leave the server?? That makes more sense. He can watch the game on stream if he wants. Ban is justified maybe the length is arguable but not the ban itself. Stupidity doesn't protect you from punishment.
2020-09-28 12:47
6 replies
Yes, the ban is justified of course. I am not saying its not justified. Cheaters deserve punishment, even if they just cheated for one round.
2020-09-28 12:48
5 replies
Here is the issue There's a difference between CHEAT and BUG Cheat is a malicious program downloaded and installed willingly by the player/coach. Bug is an error in the game, caused by an unknown thing, that is DEVELOPER'S fault, because in 4 YEARS they didn't spotted it. They should straight forward ban the coaching role for a year, it would save a lot of time and money
2020-09-28 13:57
4 replies
"Cheat is a malicious program downloaded and installed willingly by the player/coach" No. You can cheat in many ways. You can cheat by looking at a big screen at a stadium. Something that has happend before, i believe this happend years and years ago. Cant remember who the person was that did it though. I think it was a player, but not sure.
2020-09-28 14:50
2 replies
I think it was s1mple who told the admins he could see a reflection of the big screen while playing
2020-09-28 15:36
1 reply
Yeah!
2020-09-28 15:37
cheat abuse bugs otherwise, they wouldn't work. It is the responsibility of every involved person to play fair. if you can't do that you deserve a ban.
2020-09-28 17:23
except he didn’t immediately write the admin. it took an entire map for him to do that.
2020-09-28 12:42
1 reply
Well, on one of the maps yeah. But not the other.
2020-09-28 12:45
It was an online match, admins cant do shit. They wont stop the tournament schedule because the coach has a bug in csgo. He was stuck with that bug, but he still needed to watch the match, so he stayed and just didnt say a word.
2020-09-28 16:35
1 reply
#231
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World cardison
>unfair for other team >coach doesn't say a word for whole map and loses 1-16 yes very unfair men
2020-09-28 22:10
I hope they remove this ban, he did nothing wrong
2020-09-28 12:36
Doesn't sound like cheating at all
2020-09-28 12:37
#31
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United States Burger_man
Robban's story actually makes sense and they also lost 16-1 so he might actually be falsely banned what a shame
2020-09-28 12:37
4 replies
+1
2020-09-28 12:38
he doesnt coach anymore so it doesnt matter
2020-09-28 12:40
2 replies
#48
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United States Burger_man
it does matter on his reputation and integrity as a human being, and if this ban stays than no one will hire him for anything and the rest of his life will be falsely ruined.
2020-09-28 12:42
1 reply
nah because no one gives a shit
2020-09-28 12:54
F
2020-09-28 12:38
free robban
2020-09-28 12:38
xD
2020-09-28 12:38
Seems like false positive. Esic please consider appeal
2020-09-28 12:39
#40
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France pol44r
lost 16-1 ; 99% sure didnt say anything
2020-09-28 12:39
5 replies
the bug can also be used to throw a game, just lead your team to the stacked site
2020-09-28 12:44
4 replies
#72
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France pol44r
okay did you just accused astralis and faze of matchfixing ?
2020-09-28 12:53
3 replies
not astralis, but faze has always been a fishy organisation, they done alot of shit. think of the faze owner owning the csgo skin casino
2020-09-28 12:55
2 replies
#89
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France pol44r
nothing to do with matchfixing ,microphone is cut,confrimed by kioshima on twitter wh osaid he gave no info also astralis we're really fabvored in odds so doesn't makes sense
2020-09-28 13:04
1 reply
Well, Rain and Allu are also defending him.
2020-09-28 13:33
Its seems fair enough for me. He should report it in the moment it showed up but we are humans and not always do what would be the best.
2020-09-28 12:39
1 reply
he claimed that he thought it was a one-time thing but when it happened to him again a few games later he intermediately reported it
2020-09-28 13:13
"I’ve been around the CS community for 20 years, more or less, see myself as a very loyal guy..." that's what everybody thought about Hunden too
2020-09-28 12:41
#51
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Ukraine Ch1caqO
Legend
2020-09-28 12:43
RobbaN is one of the few one of the bunch that I actually believe and find trustworthy, but I don't think his appeal will, or should, lead to much. As these stories can't be sourced or confirmed in any way, it will obviously make for an impossible way to actually handle the bans purely based on stories of goodwill or legacy. Considering the amount of coaches that has abused it, I personally think that only the ones that abused it to a point where you can confidently determine it to be KNOWINGLY and MULTIPLE TIMES should be punished. I can see the logic behind handling out lengthy bans for single instances to showcase that cheating is not accepted at all, to send a message and such, but this is getting rather ridiculous.
2020-09-28 12:46
1 reply
I agree mate, like, guerri literally made a 40-minute video with recording proving his point but still got a 4-month ban. When they said they would reveal the coaches that used I thought: "No way zonic, zews, Apoka, RobbaN and Kuben used this". And suddenly, with 20% of the demos analyzed, there are 2 of them already on the list.
2020-09-28 14:01
Who exactly will be coach for all these teams now? :D Shits gone too far imo...
2020-09-28 12:47
not brazilian so i support his story
2020-09-28 12:47
5 replies
#80
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United States Burger_man
guerri is brazilian
2020-09-28 12:58
4 replies
guerri and furia are fake flagging too smart to be Brazilians
2020-09-28 12:59
3 replies
Man this would be sick Imagine a whole team be fake flagging hahahahahah
2020-09-28 14:01
2 replies
1 reply
+1
2020-09-28 14:12
ban valve and hire riot
2020-09-28 12:47
1 reply
100% Merge CS and VALORANT in a super game Counter-Strike: Dawn of the Agents
2020-09-28 14:02
Two key takeaways: The players knew about it. He informed admins in 2017 about it and they didn't act any better.
2020-09-28 12:48
3 replies
+1
2020-09-28 13:24
+100000000 Totally Valve's fault and TOs supported it
2020-09-28 14:02
+1 especially the 2nd takeaway
2020-09-28 14:05
#65
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Czech Republic fnx_legend
+1
2020-09-28 12:49
Fair Robban? HAHA 17 Rounds and you did nothing wrong? hahahahahaha xD lier lier lier
2020-09-28 12:49
5 replies
if 16-1 win, maybe if 16-1 lose, pretty sure they dont cheat
2020-09-28 12:57
4 replies
Still 17 rounds. Go to the PLAYERS POV DIRECT if you get stuck there its EASY.
2020-09-28 12:59
3 replies
still really dont think life ban or bad reputation is reasonable for this
2020-09-28 13:00
1 reply
5.5 month read, It is pretty good, I hate fucking cheaters. He could rejoin the first time he was on the bug to players POV but didnt so, thats cheating so i really think this is correct
2020-09-28 13:02
He could not, thats the bug, the camera is frozen. He said he tried to rejoin and it didnt work. Also the camera didnt reset on round start.
2020-09-28 16:38
#68
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Hungary Axelboi
This dude lost 1-16 how do they not believe him lul
2020-09-28 12:50
#77
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Germany DEBlL
imagine how good astralis were if they won 16-1 against cheaters
2020-09-28 12:56
Banned in a game where they got 16-1'ed. Haha, that's legendary
2020-09-28 12:57
1-16 and cheats hahahahhahahaaa bs call
2020-09-28 13:00
2 replies
Except he didn't cheat as he shut his mic and didn't turn on the bug.
2020-09-28 13:07
1 reply
im defending him bruh
2020-09-28 13:39
What i wonder the most.. how you know these details from 3 years ago... I dont know how a game went 3 years ago. They play thousands of matches more and know these details..
2020-09-28 13:02
3 replies
Maybe if you had travelled to another country with other persons (your team) and had all preparations, probably living in a hotel and played on a big stage with lots of nerves infront of a big crowd, then you would be able to remember it more :) Edit: Actually nevermind that, it was an online game lol
2020-09-28 13:08
1 reply
Haha ;-) However i get your point ;-)
2020-09-29 22:00
When you lose 16-1, you remember... When it happens to you again few days later and report it, then its also easier to remember. It was in 2017, yet valve did nothing with it.
2020-09-28 16:27
He cheated for 17 rounds and lost 16-1 Why bother explaining shit?xD
2020-09-28 13:02
1 reply
Are you dumb? His whole team back then backed His story
2020-09-28 13:16
SHIT CHEATER
2020-09-28 13:05
robban never cheated
2020-09-28 13:08
tldr why didnt you fucking confess
2020-09-28 13:17
6 replies
he did you pleb, next time read
2020-09-28 13:38
5 replies
Ok thanks, my bad. Now I've read whole thing and it's like dumbest shit ever. So because of a bug he decided to screw his team and muted himself. Why not call tech pause? Getting same bug 2 days in a row is really unlucky or the bug was that common? His story is really not plausible. And calling decision "totally unfair" even though he got his 45% off for full confession and cooperation. Like ESIC is supposed to believe this dumb story. If he got no proof like lmbt then punishment is totally fair.
2020-09-28 14:09
4 replies
It was an online match, no admin to check his screen. He thought it was a bug and wont happen again.
2020-09-28 16:29
37 coach banned so far with only 20% evidence checked, yeah seems pretty common to me. Been reported since 2017 and maybe sooner and yet nobody gave a shit.
2020-09-28 16:41
#228
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United States ItsImpact
First time the bug happened to him so he didn’t know what to do. The second time it happened he reported it
2020-09-28 20:34
Robban such an usefull coach that he got bug and didint even give info to team :D
2020-09-28 13:18
I guess if it happens again just give the info to the team and win the game, the punishment would've been the same.
2020-09-28 13:19
I think he's innocent
2020-09-28 13:21
Why didn't he just disconnect?
2020-09-28 13:24
+1
2020-09-28 13:25
Btw i dont see why he care actually, he was not even a coach anymore. Except, if this news threaten his position in faze.
2020-09-28 13:26
1 reply
Well, just imagine you work hard your whole life and then somebody said you cheated or stole something you thought was free, but then reported it or returned it the next day knowing you made a mistake. After that, you go to jail for 45 days and nobody wants to hire you anymore because your reputation is fucked.
2020-09-28 16:43
I think in this case he is talking the truth. When you hover over A on Train, you should be able to see pretty much the majority of players playing on the A site, where they are, how many they are etc. etc. So to only get one round as T would be near impossible, surely? It makes more sense that he in fact doesnt provide information he gets, to the team. THAT being said, ESIC cant really know for sure and cant really make case-by-case judgements like this because there is noway of telling if they (RobbaN in this case) provided information or not. So there has to be a penality regardless.
2020-09-28 13:28
How ESIC even tried to touch a manager of a godly team called FaZe???????????????
2020-09-28 13:28
i would like to give him benefit of the doubt, but sadly that means all other coaches would have to get the same judgment and you would hear this same story from all of them
2020-09-28 13:29
1 reply
I would make a list of everyone who had the decency of reporting it and lessen the ban on them. It was in 2017 and valve didnt do anything, at that point, valve is also to blame as its probably their fault if other coaches get banned after that. Valve knows theres a bug, coach gets the bug, doesnt know what to do, bam.. banned.
2020-09-28 16:48
#123
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Yugoslavia RaketHopp
FREE ROBBAN
2020-09-28 13:47
He should have disconnected instead of muting himself. Sorry guys my camera is bugged I can see everything gonna mute myself gl hf, what kind of logic is that?
2020-09-28 13:51
3 replies
+1 better save than sorry
2020-09-28 13:53
But he did? Its in the first paragraph. He tried to reconnect, but the camera was still stuck. Anybody in his place would have done the same thing for an online match. Thought it was a one time bug like everyone does in every video game since forever until it happens again. He reported it in 2017 and valve did nothing and now more coaches are being bamned because valve doesnt give a shit.
2020-09-28 16:52
1 reply
Yeah that’s what I said he should have disconnected again (and stayed off the server) instead of sitting on the server the entire match muted. Like what’s the point of that?
2020-09-28 17:19
I think its pretty impossible to loose a game 16-1 while actually using this bug. He was stuck at A site on train. If he used the cheat he would have saved them alot of going to the wrong sites.
2020-09-28 13:52
I agree. First time having bug = insta 10 months ban because why not lul
2020-09-28 13:52
Maybe he's telling the truth but why not call a tech pause and talk to admins?? That would've been the right course of action anyway but especially with his team being absolutely stomped... If he could've gotten someone to fix it he might've been able to talk to his team and help them? Certainly at some point you would have to consider just talking to the damn admins instead of standing by and not doing anything while your team gets fucked.
2020-09-28 13:53
3 replies
I think there were other ways it could've been sorted, yes. Post #126 also brings up a good point.
2020-09-28 14:17
1 reply
Yes, I can believe that. But even for all the coaches that have excuses which may or may not be legitimate there would've been a way to sort it out. One little tech pause would've proven their innocence and if enough of them did it valve would've probably paid attention after admins reported it.
2020-09-28 15:06
They do tons of online matches, a bug that happens once is also very common in any video game ever thats what he thought. He tried to reconnect, but did not work. Why not call the admins? Because nobody cares, just mute yourself and go on to the next 2263 other online matches. But it happened again 2 days later, nowi t can be considered as a possible exploit and report it. It was in 2017 and valve didnt do anything, so its big time valve's fault is some coaches are getting banned after that.
2020-09-28 16:58
Deserved
2020-09-28 13:55
Ch34t3r
2020-09-28 13:56
+1 - I've played with RobbaN in 1.6, he isn't lying and he's a decent bloke. If there is a petition for RobbaN to be unbanned, I'd be the first to sign in. I wish you all the best, friend. I hope that your ban is lifted. <3
2020-09-28 14:15
bro ESIC needs to actually analyze the match first, then give ban.... 16-1 lost "oH YuO ChItS" when Robban also info-ed the admin...
2020-09-28 14:19
legend
2020-09-28 14:28
free roban!
2020-09-28 14:30
#155
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United States ekwi
deservedx XD
2020-09-28 14:47
ESIC running amok
2020-09-28 14:57
#160
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Europe t.o.p
He did nothing wrong
2020-09-28 15:04
Imagine cheating and still lose 1-16 lmao
2020-09-28 15:08
RobbaN did nothing wrong!
2020-09-28 15:19
1-16 score ir perfect evidence that he don't say anything to his team :D
2020-09-28 15:21
how do u cheat and lose 1-16 u dont
2020-09-28 15:30
Not deserved Best Faze coach <3
2020-09-28 15:32
the match being a 16-1 loss I believe the guy, hope this won't effect his carreer much.
2020-09-28 15:34
You should have told yourself that little story about being unfair when you abused it , deal with it
2020-09-28 15:51
1 reply
How did he abused it, he said he yried to reconnect and in the end couldnt to a thing... he just muted himself instead thinking it was a one time bug like it happens in every video games. When it happens again, he reported it and valve did nothing with that for 3 years and probably got more coach banned because of their lack of engagement.
2020-09-28 17:01
#175
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Pakistan LoOuU2
imagine abusing a big and still getting clapped 16-1 , LUL
2020-09-28 15:54
2 replies
#214
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United States Artifactz
"I make what I consider to be an honorable decision and tell my team I have this view, I mute my microphone and I don't talk at all during this full map." you clearly didn't read the article
2020-09-28 18:10
1 reply
#215
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Imagine getting baited Flair checks out btw
2020-09-28 18:12
#177
ZywOo | 
Poland SebL
I don't know, this whole shit is really weird and I think they are going a little bit to far.
2020-09-28 16:00
Imagine cheat every round and still lose 16-1 xD
2020-09-28 16:29
1 reply
#208
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United States Artifactz
ummm he didn't tell his team any info
2020-09-28 17:45
Free RobbaN
2020-09-28 16:33
#185
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Portugal dracø
Took them so long to just hand out a linear sentence? If 1 game, in a 16-1 loss is cause enough for a ban, then why did they bother to review more than 1 demo from each coach after the 1st case caught?
2020-09-28 16:34
#195
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Slovakia veeellys
While he was bugged in the game he was watching serial in second monitor so i believe him. Roban is innocent
2020-09-28 16:55
#199
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Russia deadbeef
> uses bug to gain unfair advantage > still raped 16-1
2020-09-28 17:05
4 replies
#212
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United States Artifactz
"I make what I consider to be an honorable decision and tell my team I have this view, I mute my microphone and I don't talk at all during this full map." you clearly didn't read the article
2020-09-28 18:01
2 replies
#216
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Russia deadbeef
Yeah sure. Every criminal scum find some explanation/justification for his actions.
2020-09-28 18:21
1 reply
Nice brain
2020-09-30 02:05
nickname checks out
2020-09-28 19:23
Why would he not get an admin to freeze the match or simply leave the server? One big thing that matters is intention in this situation. They got blown out, so he probably did not use the bug -- at least not effectively. But imagine if it were 14-15 and he could have communicated very useful info because of the bug; I bet there is a good chance he would* have. So again, did he use the bug effectively? No. But would he have if given the chance to? It's impossible to know, but it is very likely given the fact that he chose to remain in the game at all without notifying an admin -- it [effectively handicapping your team for no reason while playing against the best team in the world] is completely nonsensical otherwise. Intention matters here more the results.
2020-09-28 17:26
Yet another ban that is at least 1-2 years late. Keep up the good work on banning coaches left and right! ESIC, Michal Slowinski, and Steve Dudenhoeffer may as well just ban every coach right now. This is the dumbest thing I've seen in CSGO lol. It's a witch hunt that lumps in the good coaches with the shitty coaches and serves no purpose. Also, congratulations on wasting your own time to view these demos if you actually are.
2020-09-28 17:22
So he was bugged but decided to mut himself instead of leave the server? bullshit, if you mute yourself what good are you as a coach? and how do we know he muted himself, just take his word for it? lmao.
2020-09-28 18:03
Well if that's all true he should have grounds for an appeal.
2020-09-28 18:27
actualy I support him, he did nothing wrong, same happened to a few other coaches who clearly showed that their team does not react to the information the coach has meaning he clearly did not do anything worng, as far as I know some of them even turned off their monitor and started watching the players instead (for those who play in the same house I mean)
2020-09-28 19:11
If what he says is true and the players can confirm the fact that he did not speak that entire match, then he should appeal and will likely find the ban removed. It makes sense considering they got blown out so badly in the match. Here's hoping that everything works out for him when he's able to appeal!
2020-09-28 19:18
Another unjust ban by ESIC
2020-09-28 20:18
#232
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Brazil Victorhs
Suddenly this ESIC organization has SO MUCH power over the CSGO scene, like everyone in the scene is accepting their demands, we barely knew about them just 5 months ago. Reading some of the coache's side of the history, it seems like even if they reported the problem to the organizers nothing would be done to postpone the match, so how can you punish some coaches like this? The organizers just wanted the matches to go on (because sponsors) and the coaches are left in a position they couldn't do anything. For years we were denied the possibility of using demos as proof for aimlock suspects, but now ESIC is allowed to make retroactive bans using 2017 demos? Seems like a very convenient witch hunt to boost their brand.
2020-09-28 23:06
ESIC just killed coaching scene wtf shit org 🤡
2020-09-29 01:58
If FaZe won the map fair enough, but they lost 1-16. There was obviously no EVIDENCE he used it to his advantage.
2020-09-29 04:29
True legend
2020-09-30 01:40
Robban is true legend! fak u Valve
2020-09-30 18:36
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