XTQZZZ on Vitality's six-man roster: "We're going to make substitutions mid-series depending on the map"

The Belgian youngster should feature for the team in the BLAST Premier tournament as they look to employ a policy of rotating players.

Vitality coach Rémy "⁠XTQZZZ⁠" Quoniam has revealed that Nabil "⁠Nivera⁠" Benrlitom will start practising with the team this week as part of a rotation system that will be employed moving forward. The 19-year-old is expected to make his debut in the BLAST Premier Final Series — the perfect proving ground for the former Heretics player as the team are already qualified for the BLAST Global Finals.

"The team will make substitutions mid-series depending on the map," XTQZZZ wrote in a Twitlonger post. "It will allow some players to rest on training days (very few until the end of the year), to rotate, to be able to make decisions and to remain as competitive as possible."

XTQZZZ says players will rotate to avoid burnout

XTQZZZ gives three reasons for the expansion of Vitality's roster, starting with the congested fixture schedule in Counter-Strike. "We have had a much higher number of tournaments, matches and weeks over the years," he said. "This is essentially related to business, where we're looking for a profitability that does not currently exist."

The second reason he gave is the team's struggle to perform consistently in a packed schedule while facing constant pressure to obtain results. This, according to him, affects "preparation ahead of intense matches".

The French coach also talked about mental health and burnout, a hot topic as several players have requested medical leaves this year due to the heavy workload. “These problems are essentially created by a loss of balance, a loss of fulfilment, a loss in the professional life and a loss of pleasure," he explained. "We must pay attention to each one of our players."

Regarding the addition of Nivera to the roster and the effect that it will have on the group, XTQZZZ insisted that the Belgian player will not be claiming anyone's spot in the starting lineup. "Vitality's objective is to continue training young talents while keeping the experience of our legends. Nabil doesn't come to bench anyone."

The French coach also shared his thoughts about jumping into uncharted territory, saying that Vitality will "give the project a certain amount of time to see if it can be effective, well-received and beneficial."

"We will try to adapt to the system in the short/medium term," he added. "In six months it may be different or perhaps even more complicated, but none of us can predict the future with the current situation."

Belgium Nabil 'Nivera' Benrlitom
Nabil 'Nivera' Benrlitom
Age:
19
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.13
Maps played:
166
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.62
APR:
0.10
France Rémy 'XTQZZZ' Quoniam
Rémy 'XTQZZZ' Quoniam
Age:
-
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.61
Maps played:
2
KPR:
0.48
DPR:
0.80
APR:
0.20
#1
 | 
Finland Cucumber))
nice
2020-10-27 00:44
13 replies
#93
 | 
Singapore Kerk
misutaaa is shit on every map except for tuscan
2020-10-27 05:10
10 replies
#114
 | 
Switzerland Titan))
Having subs between maps is stupidest shit ive seen in pro CS Someone have bad game? Just get other player on Meanwhile if a team doesnt have 6+ players, its disadvantage. Even if it becomes normal and everyone is playing with substitutes on side its still stupid.
2020-10-27 06:22
7 replies
#121
nexa | 
France andyj
This is a great thing to have for the pro scene. Esports doesn’t have the monetary gain for teams to be able to fund pure superteams with 6 godly players for a long amount of time, and this will help prevent mental health issues in the form of stress, burnout, etc.
2020-10-27 06:42
3 replies
nah this is just makes it way harder for teams with orgs who cant/wont put in the money to get a 6 man roster and teams who dont have an org. besides if someone is burned out and not playing well, just get a temporary sub?
2020-10-27 17:35
#215
 | 
Finland JooonsMO
Totally agree. In my opinion CSPPA should push same rule about this for all tournaments so it would be more viable for teams to have 6-7 man rosters. That rule should be max 7 player roster per tournament. Subs between maps should be allowed and subs during map disallowed. This could take pro matches to whole new level skillwise. Argument "Someone have bad game? Just get other player on" doesn't really work since player can be god on one map and trash on next one. Evidence: hltv.org/matches/2344440/natus-vincere-v.. People always protest about change but as we see this can be really good thing for the scene.
2020-10-27 22:49
#223
 | 
Switzerland Titan))
0/8 some teams have more money than others and will get huge advantages the point of mental health issues and burnout is mute in this case because its subbing between maps. you get burnout between 2 maps? then don't play CS
2020-10-27 23:37
I think you are stupid, not the pro scene! Thought about it?
2020-10-27 07:21
2 replies
lmao ratiod
2020-10-27 19:01
#222
 | 
Switzerland Titan))
thought and decided subbing between maps si stupid and not me try again
2020-10-27 23:36
+1
2020-10-27 07:39
Than you are not watching them play. Misu is getting better every match
2020-10-27 12:46
kiss
2020-10-27 10:58
1 reply
no mens)
2020-10-27 17:13
Wait, is it allowed?
2020-10-27 00:45
40 replies
maybe it is.
2020-10-27 00:45
24 replies
it shouldnt be allowed
2020-10-27 00:55
19 replies
It is allowed for the Blast tournaments.
2020-10-27 01:06
and why is that? what if someone just isnt feeling it and literally 0 frags? they can get a substitute and he then plays better. you can already do this on other games and sports so why not in cs?
2020-10-27 01:25
10 replies
Sorry, but not fragging is part of playing CS, you can not just frag every game. If you can as a player, well thats great, but you should not just be able to replace a key fragger mid series for absolutely no reason except that you want someone better to increase your chances.
2020-10-27 03:21
3 replies
yea but u have lots of situations where ur bottom fragger starts fragging hard and even carrys a game. The substitute who can replace one of them can also end up being trash,cuz he didnt warmed up like the rest.
2020-10-27 14:51
2 replies
I'm pretty sure the substitute will be able to warmup, why wouldnt he?
2020-10-27 18:20
1 reply
yea but its not the same warmup if u go on aim bots and if u play rounds on servers in a real match.
2020-10-27 23:11
This.He is just retarded mate, don't mind him.
2020-10-27 10:37
1 reply
nice alt
2020-10-27 13:54
Exactly. If a football, hockey, cricket, basketball, etc etc etc starts puking on the ground or just doesn't have a good day he will be replaced. Why should esports not be able to do it?
2020-10-27 10:55
3 replies
dont act so dumb theres a reason its called esports
2020-10-27 14:08
2 replies
Wa da fuk. Rofl. Tell me why is it called esports. Hahaha
2020-10-27 17:50
Because it's sports that's done on a computer (which is electronic)? How does that say you can't have more than 5 man on a roster?
2020-10-27 22:21
#62
 | 
Finland JooonsMO
Imo substitutions between maps should be allowed but ones during match disallowed.
2020-10-27 01:37
4 replies
+1
2020-10-27 04:41
#133
 | 
Finland Pegull
I mean sure if it's between match-ups and not between two maps of a bo3. Although it might just be that I'm so used to how things are now. But it seems like an unfair advantage for teams with better funds.
2020-10-27 08:17
2 replies
#151
 | 
Sweden crittaN
Makes sense, no team should be allowed to buyout any S-tier player because its unfair they have so much money
2020-10-27 10:37
1 reply
#189
 | 
France poulpup
do you rather having some coach playing if a player is injured or else ?
2020-10-27 14:31
+1, 6-man rosters should only be a main roster + an extra bench player in case of burnout/sickness/visa issues/youngster who wants to gain experience
2020-10-27 03:38
1 reply
Yeah, 1 s1mple and just a bit more than half a zywoo and you get the best 1, 6-man roster ever!
2020-10-27 06:57
Nice name btw but is kinda weird with your flag xd
2020-10-27 01:38
3 replies
Haha thanks XD, which flag can i use?
2020-10-27 01:42
2 replies
Russki
2020-10-27 08:44
1 reply
+1, pretty weird with a BR flag xd
2020-10-27 11:28
#14
 | 
Finland Khroni
yea im pretty sure its not thats why astralis had to submit a roster before each series when they were doing their stuff
2020-10-27 00:46
7 replies
but in blast it's probably allowed because it's astrablast
2020-10-27 00:48
6 replies
#25
 | 
Finland Khroni
ah true i guess that means the mid-series rotation is only for BLAST events then for the other TO's they have to play it normally and submit rosters i guess
2020-10-27 00:49
5 replies
blast and ESL literally have the same rules about this, why wouldnt that be allowed what if a player gets sick?
2020-10-27 00:55
1 reply
#75
 | 
Slovakia xaboff
I think in ESL and co. it between series and in Blast it's between maps or maybe even rounds
2020-10-27 02:35
#216
 | 
Finland JooonsMO
Blast can be good showcase for this new meta. If it is good for teams, players and audience then all tournaments should allow it. If its terrible then teams can forget it and have 6th player only as backup or change players for each tournament. It's going to be something between and we get new valuable information about this new thingy.
2020-10-27 22:52
2 replies
#217
 | 
Finland Khroni
yea i guess but it only favours the team that has the 6th players otherwise if you are going against them there's a whole other set of plays for each map you have to prepare for and a whole new person you have to study the behaviour of at a micro-level i can see the entertaining side of it but also the side that just seems unfair
2020-10-27 23:00
1 reply
#219
 | 
Finland JooonsMO
In overwatch teams can have more than 10 players while only 6 players are playing per map. I don't know for sure but I don't think that people say "oh that team has 11 players and this team has only 7 players so ofc that team will win". I know CS and overwatch are different games and cannot be directly compared. If 6-7man rosters are happening it will lowers everyone's salary. Also it will make anti-stratting harder. But most importantly it will help to prevent burnout and offer higher level of CS.
2020-10-27 23:12
#18
broky | 
Latvia De1Co
Blast changed their thing when Astralis came out with the idea
2020-10-27 00:47
2 replies
Of course blastralis
2020-10-27 00:48
lol no they didnt, the rules about changing players were made by blast all the way back in 2017 which was the exact same rules as ESL have had for years
2020-10-27 00:53
It shouldn't.
2020-10-27 00:51
It's allowed in BLAST. "Match Line-up: Teams may field a different line-up for each map provided that they can set-up the Player(s) in the Playing Area within the pre-scheduled break times. Line ups for each map must be submitted to the Tournament Operations Manager 10 minutes before the map starts." This was for the LAN part ofc, but the same principle applies.
2020-10-27 00:55
1 reply
Thanks mr miraa :)
2020-10-27 01:03
If its not just have a dude unplug his router and claim the other person just to be a standin
2020-10-27 06:14
when?
2020-10-27 00:45
#4
 | 
United Kingdom alcazar4
doesnt seem particularly fair
2020-10-27 00:45
12 replies
GET WITH THE TIMES BOOMER
2020-10-27 00:45
10 replies
#23
 | 
United Kingdom alcazar4
unfair advantages for rich teams have gone too far
2020-10-27 00:48
9 replies
sell s0mple and make a 6 mens)) roster
2020-10-27 01:18
1 reply
#60
 | 
United Kingdom alcazar4
navi is one of the orgs who could do it, but further separating cs from the 5 man roster will be ultimately harmful for the scene. valve doesnt want coaches with the amount of involvement they currently have, they wont want 6 man rosters. banned from majors incoming.
2020-10-27 01:29
#67
 | 
France Nairelav
You seems to forget 1 thing, rich teams always go far in every competition and got almost 0 break
2020-10-27 01:44
5 replies
#68
 | 
United Kingdom alcazar4
something that has been criticised by everyone in the scene many times over.
2020-10-27 02:04
4 replies
#149
 | 
France Nairelav
Ofc but do you see ESL or Valve trying to do something against it ?
2020-10-27 10:33
3 replies
#170
 | 
United Kingdom alcazar4
ofc esl wont, valve might though
2020-10-27 12:49
2 replies
#185
 | 
France Nairelav
Wait, are we talking about 6th man rosters or players having no break ? xd
2020-10-27 14:08
1 reply
#187
 | 
United Kingdom alcazar4
both? no one wants it but if they dont like the way the scene is going, they might enforce scheduling, but theyll definitely ban 6man rosters at majors.
2020-10-27 14:17
#156
 | 
Europe Qzd
yes, the only fair way is to allow roster change between tournaments like astralis is doing atm, any other use of the 6 man roster would destroy the cs scene we know
2020-10-27 10:56
#44
 | 
Sweden swedz4
+1
2020-10-27 01:03
ok! vitality still wont win a final!
2020-10-27 00:45
1 reply
#57
 | 
United States Festive_
LMAO
2020-10-27 01:22
Sounds fair
2020-10-27 00:45
what? wtf
2020-10-27 00:45
VITA ON TRAIN Pog
2020-10-27 00:45
allowed ?
2020-10-27 00:45
1 reply
yes. not in valve sponsored events though pretty sure
2020-10-27 00:46
LOL
2020-10-27 00:45
XTQZZZ head is awesome!
2020-10-27 00:45
2 replies
#70
 | 
United States flipfone
+1 he looks like an evil mastermind, guaranteed smart guy
2020-10-27 02:09
#134
 | 
Finland Pegull
worst nickname in the scene.
2020-10-27 08:21
#15
 | 
Canada J47
NOW THIS IS THE BIG BRAIN WE WAS WAITING FOR
2020-10-27 00:46
5 replies
#21
 | 
Canada J47
I cant wait for 5 man substitutions between maps. Astralis will play their starting line for Inferno, then next thing you know Astralis will 5 -man sub the ex-Heroic starting line for Vertigo :) big BRAINS
2020-10-27 00:48
4 replies
I mean yeah i dont see why not - it happens in every other sports the lineups switch constantly and/or mid-game so I think it makes competitive CS even more interesting frankly
2020-10-27 01:03
1 reply
#142
 | 
Serbia hltvmens
why would it sound interesting? i watch astralis because i care about astralis, i dont give a shit about heroic..
2020-10-27 09:45
#72
 | 
United Kingdom OllieUK
Astralis sign 7 rosters. One specialised for each map
2020-10-27 02:19
You are being sarcastic but what you are saying is true therefore its ironic
2020-10-27 07:32
Voldemort?
2020-10-27 00:46
This guy is literally 5Head
2020-10-27 00:47
Pretty sure its not allowed to switch players mid game, no?
2020-10-27 00:49
5 replies
#30
RpK | 
France pol44r
It is on every tournament but volvo Navi junior did for monesy in elisa wich is qualifiers for blast
2020-10-27 00:52
4 replies
Really? Then this is really big brain time.
2020-10-27 00:52
2 replies
#36
RpK | 
France pol44r
((they will sub misuuta out and make nivera play b on inferno)
2020-10-27 00:54
1 reply
LMAO
2020-10-27 01:03
ESL doesn't allow player changes during a series. They allow at EPL to switch between coach slot and player slot but not during the match.
2020-10-27 05:54
Nice, if that will be allow, its be awesome, something new in scene.
2020-10-27 00:51
shouldn't be allowed
2020-10-27 00:51
1 reply
#109
 | 
Switzerland Titan))
+1
2020-10-27 06:20
#31
 | 
Portugal dracø
Good for the 6th man if this is allowed, it will give them more play time for sure.
2020-10-27 00:52
2 replies
#40
 | 
Austria SplasJ
It's allowed at blast
2020-10-27 00:57
1 reply
But not at ESL. And that is important TO.
2020-10-27 05:52
A great way to make online cs even more inconsistent. Pretty stupid because it ruins the whole purpose of anti-stratting or studying your opponent.
2020-10-27 00:56
3 replies
Tbh it would make online more interesting. It will slowly kill other teams tho.
2020-10-27 01:02
If anything it requires more anti-stratting - hence why football teams and rugby teams or whatever switch out their players mid-game or between matches - keeps enemies on their toes and makes sure that to attain the top level you have to have studied your opponents inside and out
2020-10-27 01:06
1 reply
I think it could be interesting regardless. The teams with 6 players need to be on a mutual understanding no matter who is playing so it's a double edged sword in a sense.
2020-10-27 09:55
#46
s | 
Brazil finexys_
this dude looks like a cartoon supervillain irl
2020-10-27 01:03
1 reply
he is literally voldemort lol.
2020-10-27 01:20
#49
 | 
United States cyrus2121
if you can do it go right ahead but I guarantee valve wont let that happen at majors
2020-10-27 01:05
cool stroy bruh
2020-10-27 01:05
Imagine Nivera gets picked on a certain map only and doesn´t deliver good results haha The amout of pressure would be even higher i guess.
2020-10-27 01:19
they shouldnt be allowed to change players during a tournament imo. should submit the roster that will play throughout the roster. this cant be fair surely; say a player is playing very bad one map, they can just sub the other player in. kinda unfair when not a lot of teams have 6 man rosters as of yet
2020-10-27 01:20
That is just ridiculous. There should be a rule against this. There needs to be a balance on this alternative player style. You can only change players between matches not during a match. I personally prefer only allowing changing players between tournaments, not just during a tournament. This is CSGO not some 20+ players soccer team.
2020-10-27 01:23
#61
 | 
Switzerland Titan))
This is ridiculous. I find substituting within one event bad enough, but between maps? Ridiculous. 1. Disadvantage for small teams 2. Counterstratting becomes less useful 3. Where is the limit for this? Can you sub in a whole team?
2020-10-27 01:30
12 replies
#64
 | 
Portugal joaosenra
Agreed 100% 1. Gives more resources to the teams 2. Takes away some pressure phisical and phsicological 3. Help to the teams dont stagnate and underperform because of the internal competiviti 4. Other sports have been doing that since ever.
2020-10-27 01:37
5 replies
#69
 | 
Switzerland Titan))
??? Mental deficiency much?
2020-10-27 02:06
4 replies
0/8
2020-10-27 06:22
3 replies
#116
 | 
Switzerland Titan))
R u stupid?
2020-10-27 06:23
2 replies
2020-10-27 06:28
1 reply
#221
 | 
Switzerland Titan))
R u stupid?
2020-10-27 23:35
1. No one stopping the small teams from picking up other players. 2. Counterstratting still exists??? It's not like the player(s) is gonna take on a whole new role that didn't exist in their system before??? 3. Ehhhh I would say 10, so yes theoretically speaking you could sub in a whole team This is the future of CS, whether people accept this or not, it is for the BEST!
2020-10-27 03:54
5 replies
#107
 | 
Switzerland Titan))
1. Money is stopping lower teams 2. Create counterstrat just for the player to be replaced 3. That is so stupid lol. Thats not how CS Should be played. 10 people is two teams. Lmao. I dont see mm being played with 10 people 4. Its not the future, cuz valve wont allow it in majors (thank god). 5. This is not like football where u get fatigued during game. Subs between tournaments, cool. No problem. Subs between matches, not cool, a team is 5 people not 6+ Subs between Maps is fucking retarded
2020-10-27 06:19
4 replies
1. Their fault for being a poor organization. Maybe get better sponsors, or actually think about the costs before joining 2. Yea. You can literally just have another Strat. How much of a difference can a player even make, it's not like it will completely change the game. 3. Subbing a whole team would be dumb. Have like a max of 1 or 2. Subs between maps makes everything more interesting. Wdym.
2020-10-27 06:26
1 reply
#178
 | 
Germany sommares
1. well... sometimes its not their fault. could you start a randomly new org and immediately get millions of $ from sponsors? i don't think so.
2020-10-27 13:11
#190
 | 
Portugal joaosenra
Let me explai to your peanut brain psychological diseases in addition to affecting the brain, there are also diseases that affect the body such as panic attacks that result from psychological stress as well. Imagine a pro playing cs with panic attack probleams or even depression, if you dont know at you are talking about men don't talk, saves you of pass by an idiot
2020-10-27 14:33
1 reply
#220
 | 
Switzerland Titan))
if you have "psychological diseases in addition to affecting the brain, there are also diseases that affect the body such as panic attacks that result from psychological stress as well." and cant play 3 maps of CS in a row, it's your problem. also pls try writing in better English, can barley understand what your Portuguese bird brain is saying
2020-10-27 23:34
#63
 | 
Portugal joaosenra
Agreed 100% 1. Gives more resources to the teams 2. Takes away some pressure phisical and phsicological 3. Help to the teams dont stagnate and underperform because of the internal competiviti 4. Other sports have been doing that since ever.
2020-10-27 01:37
5 replies
and fucks poor orgs. yeah... Other sports has physical aspects. Dont compare apple and bananas. Dota has nothing like that. Only game I know where you can change players is Overwatch the dead game...
2020-10-27 05:51
4 replies
#188
 | 
Portugal joaosenra
So you play cs 24 h per day and you have the pressure of playing at competetive lvl why the hell do you think that glaive and xyp9x take medical leave. Lett me explain to your peanut brain, psychological diseases in addition to affecting the brain, there are also diseases that affect the body such as panic attacks that result from psychological stress as well.
2020-10-27 14:29
3 replies
all that you say has nothing to do with change a player during a match. Nothing of this will prevent a burn out. There is a difference between a time off and still competing for a place in the lineup. But your peanut brain has absolutely no idea what burnout means and how it happens. it don't happen cuz you play all the time. it has to do with stress level and that you can't handle with other things outside the game.
2020-10-27 14:50
2 replies
#207
 | 
Portugal joaosenra
Uare and idiot i have gain panic atacks before because of been to much hours in front of an computer i know what i am talking about m8
2020-10-27 17:56
1 reply
obv not. otherwise you wouldn't think a pure strategy move would prevent a burnout.
2020-10-27 18:01
#71
Jame | 
Norway pagant
should not be allowed, hopefully valve will do something about this as this will for sure go against their previous stance on a 5-man roster.
2020-10-27 02:17
3 replies
#95
 | 
Pakistan LoOuU2
Valve cant control other TOs and events or force them to , they dont allow such thing on their own sponsored tournaments and that is all they can do about it
2020-10-27 05:32
2 replies
Valve can control other TOs If they want. Normally they don't want, but they should at some point. Any commercial TO need a license by Valve and they can put a restriction in that license, like no player changes during maps.
2020-10-27 05:49
1 reply
#102
 | 
Pakistan LoOuU2
i dont mind a 6 man roster myself , but switches between maps is maybe a bit too much , if they can force them to stop it , sure go ahead
2020-10-27 05:51
This is like the most toxic thing known to man
2020-10-27 02:19
won't be allowed lmao
2020-10-27 02:21
oh fuck my life, this shit never should be allowed.
2020-10-27 02:39
player: i am bad at this map, i will train to improve myself coach: dont need, we will replace you for this map
2020-10-27 02:44
1 reply
you didn't read shit
2020-10-27 11:47
I think they could change ZyWoO for Nivera just to see how the Team perform without the Star. They certain could loose to TIER 3 teams! Would be so fun!
2020-10-27 02:52
subs should not be allowed during maps, only one roster for a tournament
2020-10-27 03:15
#80
NAF | 
Canada Minami
Why so much whining for some changes? The orgs are ok this, the rules permit this, the pros' lives will be better with this... are changes so much annoying that you have to be "against" something that won't change anything in your life?
2020-10-27 03:19
4 replies
which rule permits this? ESL don't allow it. Valve don't even allow roster changes at all.
2020-10-27 05:47
3 replies
#173
NAF | 
Canada Minami
Blast: "Match Line-up: Teams may field a different line-up for each map provided that they can set-up the Player(s) in the Playing Area within the pre-scheduled break times. Line ups for each map must be submitted to the Tournament Operations Manager 10 minutes before the map starts."
2020-10-27 13:04
2 replies
Yeah blast but to our luck compare to esl it is no important TO who rule the scene
2020-10-27 13:06
1 reply
#196
NAF | 
Canada Minami
ESL "3.2.3. Players in team A player may only play for one team in a tournament or league. Participants in an EPS may not also play in the EAS underneath it. In tournaments or leagues that require Premium or Trusted then only players with this status are eligible to play. In general players that are marked inactive or honorary on a team page are not eligible to play. If a homepage is required for a tournament or league then a every player that is on the team account must also be on the homepage." They don't have any rules on the number of players a team should have. Your team members just can't be honorary or inactive. play.eslgaming.com/rules
2020-10-27 15:03
#82
 | 
Brazil _Awper
0/8
2020-10-27 03:30
Imagine letting zywoo play 5 times in the other PCs
2020-10-27 03:33
what how is that fair? choose a player for a tournament. lock that player in. im not against 6 man rosters but they shouldn't be allowed to swap willy nilly whenever the fuck they want.
2020-10-27 03:37
5 replies
Professional sports can do it lmao, so why disallow esports from doing the same? Edit: There are obviously going to be rules put in place to limit the amount, but allowing one per map or in between maps is fantastic and likely what will happen going forward!
2020-10-27 03:44
4 replies
professional sports you mention has a physical aspect so you need to change players during matches for their health. In eSports, it is pure strategy. Don't compare apples and bananas.
2020-10-27 05:46
3 replies
You can do it in League. It's literally just strategy.
2020-10-27 06:21
2 replies
Do you mean LoL?? Even if so, you don't change maps you only change roles/heroes That is also different. I only know in Overwatch you can do it but this game is already dead.
2020-10-27 06:22
1 reply
Oh wait yea that is true. Maps are a huge factor. Honestly, just see how it works, because this could potentially add another layer of strategy, or fail completely. Let people test it out in blast since its blast.
2020-10-27 06:28
THIS IS EXCITING NEWS FOR THE FUTURE OF THE GAME!!! Normalizing rotating rosters is the future for any esport as it exists in main stream sports and should now also exist in esports :))))
2020-10-27 03:44
5 replies
Gaben: "Rotating players is an ass and we don't work with it anymore"
2020-10-27 05:45
#108
 | 
Switzerland Titan))
0iq detected You get tired after playing sports. You dont get tired after playing Mirage
2020-10-27 06:20
3 replies
????? Strategy. 0iq
2020-10-27 06:21
2 replies
#115
 | 
Switzerland Titan))
??? Reply needs to har actual content
2020-10-27 06:23
You can't change the players how you want. you always bound on the health of the player and his body level at the moment. So you can't make the strategy you want all the time. You don't have such restriction in eSports.
2020-10-27 06:24
6 player meta is a joke.
2020-10-27 04:38
new form of cheating
2020-10-27 04:38
This is retarded. Changing players mid-series? Get out of here!
2020-10-27 04:54
1 reply
league of legends does it, Dota does it, OW does it. what's wrong in this?
2020-10-27 08:52
wtf, some rich org can sign ten players and play with two different lineups between maps
2020-10-27 05:10
Glad that Valve denies such shit. Even ESL has restrictions against that.
2020-10-27 05:44
Finally. About time.
2020-10-27 06:19
cs is becoming shit with those 6 players+ rosters
2020-10-27 06:56
His face always looks familiar too me and now i know why gametimers.it/wp-content/uploads/2014/11..
2020-10-27 07:00
Shit like this should be banned.
2020-10-27 07:20
I think this is not legit and won't be allowed
2020-10-27 07:52
#131
 | 
Poland SebL
Ok now it's getting really interesting.
2020-10-27 07:52
Should be allowed in all tournament like in football ..great news to make cs more compétitive and exciting to Watch , it s fore sure the futur of cs , should be allowed even in game
2020-10-27 08:18
#139
 | 
Spain Silber_
They've been doing it in league for years. Good news for the scene overall but perhaps a bit confusing for the viewer
2020-10-27 09:09
Reading the comments of people saying "switching players between maps is unfair" makes me feel they are way too conservative, maybe those opposites to players changes have been, in the past, opposed to the switch from MR12 to MR15, or against the switch of money cycle (in the past if you had won 1 round - even after losing 7 or so - and then lost one you would be back to 1400$ money received because you had won one round before losing another). CS evolves, often for the best, deal with it. I'm personally 100% for : - the possibility of switching players between series - 100% between maps (that's the point of having 6 or 7 players, one player isn't generally unconfortable playing against FaZe or NiP but playing on Train or Mirage, whatever, so on one map you play with RpK on another with nivera, another with misutaaaa, so you have to have the possibility to switch players between maps and - i'm not against the possibility of making 1 change during a map but we have to consider things like "how much time does it take ?", "doesn't it kill the flow for players/the viewers" so i have to think more about that "change during a map" thing, but i'm not massively against it, at all
2020-10-27 09:19
3 replies
I agree with you, yet as many sports did, perhaps limit the amont of possible change by match.
2020-10-27 10:12
1 reply
#161
RpK | 
France HippzZ
+1
2020-10-27 11:38
I think spunj talked about that oke time that in the rulebook of some TOs like blast it says that if u can change a player there will be no extra time for that. You have to change the setup (on Lan) kn the give 5 mins or so between the maps in the commercial breaks. If u dont get that done the game will start with only the 4 players on the server
2020-10-27 13:37
Maldemort
2020-10-27 09:41
#146
 | 
Europe cNap__
I do not think switching players between maps will work for Vitality. In my opinion, the reason why they are winning is Zywoo, not a team game.
2020-10-27 10:09
3 replies
#154
HS | 
Estonia qoznyyy
+1
2020-10-27 10:55
if it was that easy to win with a single star player, navi would be top1
2020-10-27 11:47
1 reply
#179
 | 
Germany sommares
vitality isnt top1 either?
2020-10-27 13:13
XQTZZ 200IQ
2020-10-27 10:54
they need 4 subs to replace Apex, Shox, RPK and Misutaa mid series because they all suck
2020-10-27 11:01
2 replies
.... Do you know CSGO ? its a fps game pretty nice. you really should watch at least once before giving your opinion ....
2020-10-27 11:37
#162
 | 
Brazil urm@m
loooooooooooool
2020-10-27 11:40
#167
 | 
Hungary raffai
Top1 incoming soon
2020-10-27 12:07
this is cheating... imagine in bo5 or something... other team player is tired... they pull out there 10 man roster with complete energy to swap over... its bs...
2020-10-27 12:51
1 reply
+1
2020-10-27 15:38
I think spunj and prof discussed that at hltv podcast some time ago and in some rulebooks like blast u can change a player after every map if they can build up their mouse and keyboard quick enough. That will put another huge mindgame factor into the game. Imagine having someone on the roster who is insane at nuke but absolute dogshit at d2 then u can play with him on nuke and get him out for another map. IGLs then antistrat for those exact tactics and they show up with another lineup. That will bring a huge new Tactical element into the game
2020-10-27 13:31
stupidest thing ever, gl to them though i aint hating i just know its stupid
2020-10-27 14:43
big
2020-10-27 14:46
EVIL BALD EGG MAN
2020-10-27 14:57
the good question is how to read properly this fr guy nickname - XTQZZZ
2020-10-27 15:05
2 replies
Xtaz i think
2020-10-27 20:31
Xtaz, like extase or ecstasy in english
2020-10-29 12:08
absolutely disgusting..... sad day for professional csgo scene
2020-10-27 15:38
bald
2020-10-27 15:59
he has a huge head
2020-10-27 16:13
this seems the natural progression for a sporting scene. Results are a bigger part of players lives than in other sports, more short term impactful. Having a bad afternoon in 2 games might be the end of a players career, in other sports we don't just watch that player struggle and burn, we sub them out tell them the team has their back. I dont understand why this wasnt part of counter strike, except for maybe the events were just so far apart it wasnt necessary. The players now have a full load, the sponsors are chucking in big money. A bad afternoon doesnt cut it anymore, but neither is it fair to say you can never have a bad afternoon. The roster changes have to happen before map pick, its not like teams are subbing in their best train player because train made it through the veto. But teams might change their map priorities between that upper bracket loss and lower bracket re-match. How could you not view this as a competitive boost for CS?
2020-10-27 16:30
1 reply
"The roster changes have to happen before map pick, its not like teams are subbing in their best train player because train made it through the veto. But teams might change their map priorities between that upper bracket loss and lower bracket re-match." Wrong. I misunderstood series. (Ithought Blast Series) More interesting twist, more counter play available switching between maps, hopefully teams provide feed back about time given to react to changes and when switches feel good for the game
2020-10-30 19:26
#205
 | 
France Uexo
very wise decision
2020-10-27 17:42
nice
2020-10-27 20:28
+1
2020-10-28 13:45
Rotations for burnout is definitely a good idea. Strategically it's a slippery slope for a team that can sub out the bottom frag every time, that I do not agree with. The five that play the first map have to be locked in, can't leave unless there's an emergency.
2020-10-29 02:30
You need to be more active to be able to create new forum topics
2020-10-30 19:26
Login or register to add your comment to the discussion.