sergej benched in ENCE; SADDYX to stand in

ENCE's 18-year-old star cited a lack of motivation for Counter-Strike and decided to step down from the active roster in order to fulfill his Finnish military service duties.

Jere "⁠sergej⁠" Salo has announced he will be taking a break from Counter-Strike, stepping down from ENCE's active roster. The 13th best player of 2019 has been "benched in mutual agreement" after he expressed his intentions, with the Finnish organization loaning SJ's Tuomas "⁠SADDYX⁠" Louhimaa for the upcoming DreamHack Masters Winter Europe.

sergej will start his mandatory military service in January

"Jere (sergej) has come to the conclusion that he currently doesn’t have the necessary motivation to pursue forward in the intense world of professional Counter-Strike", ENCE's statement reads, with the organization revealing that he will stay contracted during his military service as his future is discussed.

The team praised sergej's playing ability, but stated that "we all agree that it is not beneficial for either party to continue without him feeling he can fully contribute". Once a standout player for his team, the 18-year-old averaged just a 0.98 rating in 2020, falling down to 0.91 for the last three months.

With sergej stepping down, ENCE now have just one player from the roster that was assembled in April 2018 and went on to reach the IEM Katowice 2019 Major grand final - Aleksi "⁠allu⁠" Jalli. Stepping in the shoes of sergej will be 19-year-old SADDYX from SJ, who will debut in DreamHack Masters Winter which kicks off on November 30th. The loaned player will join newcomer Joonas "⁠doto⁠" Forss who played just two matches with the team before it underwent another roster change.

ENCE will use the following roster in DreamHack Masters Europe Winter:

Finland Aleksi "⁠allu⁠" Jalli
Finland Miikka "⁠suNny⁠" Kemppi
Finland Elias "⁠Jamppi⁠" Olkkonen
Finland Joonas "⁠doto⁠" Forss
Finland Tuomas "⁠SADDYX⁠" Louhimaa (loan)

Finland Eetu "⁠sAw⁠" Saha (coach)
Finland Jere "⁠sergej⁠" Salo (benched)

Finland Elias 'Jamppi' Olkkonen
Elias 'Jamppi' Olkkonen
Age:
19
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.12
Maps played:
498
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.10
Finland Miikka 'suNny' Kemppi
Miikka 'suNny' Kemppi
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1184
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.14
Finland Aleksi 'allu' Jalli
Aleksi 'allu' Jalli
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
1534
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.11
Finland Joonas 'doto' Forss
Joonas 'doto' Forss
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
446
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.14
Finland Tuomas 'SADDYX' Louhimaa
Tuomas 'SADDYX' Louhimaa
Age:
19
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.96
Maps played:
569
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.14
Finland Jere 'sergej' Salo
Jere 'sergej' Salo
Age:
18
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
673
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.14
Finland Eetu 'sAw' Saha
Eetu 'sAw' Saha
Age:
28
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.90
Maps played:
1267
KPR:
0.61
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.16
Sad, we hope you all the best
2020-11-17 10:46
59 replies
#10
RpK | 
France pol44r
i mean he was underperforming for the top13 of 2019 but shit,hope he doesnt loose it in military service
2020-11-17 10:49
46 replies
I wonder what aleksib did they kick for that to happen
2020-11-17 10:49
29 replies
whut???
2020-11-17 10:51
3 replies
2 replies
"I wonder what aleksib did they kick for that to happen" this makes no sense. but i guess you are wondering why they kicked him. Allu wanted more firepower and he thought he would be able to IGL at the same level or better than Aleksib.
2020-11-18 10:19
1 reply
it was just a shitty play on words, it intentionally sounded retarded
2020-11-18 10:30
Playing wasn’t “fun” enough apparently
2020-11-17 13:33
8 replies
perhaps he lost motivation because Miikka sunNy Kemmpi was having so much fun with his colossal 0.92 firepower rating while aleksi has a decent 1.06
2020-11-17 15:05
7 replies
#384
ZywOo | 
India aR__
This is so sad, I swear he is a FUCKING BEAST he just needed his motivation back.... Sad to see him go but I am sure he will be back much stronger. Can't wait.
2020-11-17 15:24
6 replies
for some reason they put him as an IGL despite bringing him in for his firepower which in my mind is completely retarded. Also, there was the HLTV gla1ve interview where gla1ve said that sunny was a shit IGL in mousesports so :D
2020-11-17 16:07
5 replies
Its like buying Ronaldo and putting him as a goalkeeper meanwhile you sold Ter Stegen to buy Ronaldo.
2020-11-17 20:38
2 replies
Most non-retarded comment I've read on hltv.org this entire year. You have my sincere congratulations, sir.
2020-11-18 12:51
1 reply
#601
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Czech Republic xANUx
+1
2020-11-20 12:32
What does gla1ve know about sunny's IGLing?
2020-11-18 09:07
1 reply
more than anyone from HLTV most likely
2020-11-18 10:31
The truth is that aleksiB tactis and attention were not suitable for allu's ego. Other is that aleksiB was only player (in addition to sergej) whom they would get buy out money Third is that suNny is owner of ENCE, and they had to find place for him.
2020-11-17 18:54
15 replies
Actually sunny got the shares after he joined ence. So he wasn't share owner before.
2020-11-17 19:48
2 replies
suNny was original founder of ENCE in 2016 together with allu, natu, lurppis and couple other esports affiliates in Finland. suNny has been ENCE owner ever since via his own "holding" company. This is publicly available information.
2020-11-17 23:02
1 reply
You even said that it is publicly available info. Why you don't use it? It says that Sunny got the share around 2019. When he signed. EDIT: Even the CEO said this in interview.
2020-11-18 21:38
3 is false 2 makes no sense if it has any truth to it, why taint your org's success and reputation for a quick cash grab
2020-11-17 20:06
3 replies
#504
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Finland Lindeni
No, it wasn't a quick cash grab, it was a necessary move to get the money TO sign Sunny. Cutting xseven (which made the most sense) wasn't going to give enough money to the org if any at all to sign Sunny, Aeriel they would've got some money from + the loss of his wages to pay Sunny's, but again, not enough. That's why they cut Aleksib for Sunny.
2020-11-17 21:41
1 reply
oh shit it's that way back didn't know
2020-11-17 23:05
to b fair, they were getting worse with every lan run. they needed to make a change, but they made a bad choice on who to cut. kicking a successful igl for more firepower has almost never worked in any roster, outside of maybe liquid (-adren +simple), astralis (-karrigan +gla1ve), heroic (-hunden +acilion) or big (-gob +xantares).
2020-11-18 02:41
7 replies
I thought gob b stepped down?
2020-11-18 03:39
6 replies
ye but after he stepped down they didnt sign a new igl
2020-11-18 21:49
5 replies
So they didn't kick the igl, they had no choice but to let the igl go
2020-11-19 03:12
4 replies
*removing a successful igl for more firepower
2020-11-19 05:08
3 replies
they still didn't remove him tho?
2020-11-19 06:30
2 replies
*losing a successful igl for more firepower
2020-11-20 14:05
1 reply
There we go lmao I appreciate you making the effort
2020-11-21 11:00
He will learn more tactics to become IGL in military services
2020-11-17 10:52
11 replies
line the finnish army is know for their battles and genius tactics LuL
2020-11-17 10:59
1 reply
Yes. Yes they are. Look up the Winter War. An underdeveloped banana country like Finland doesn't just beat a totally overpowered foe without genius strategies and tactics. Also feel free to join and suffer through the FDF service before you talk shit about it.
2020-11-25 09:54
OMEGALUL
2020-11-17 11:19
First we go west, but then we go east. We also have a little known tactic of first going east, but then going east. Top 3 superpower 4 sure
2020-11-17 13:06
4 replies
#407
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Finland OGx
Bigbrain
2020-11-17 16:05
rush south
2020-11-17 17:40
2 replies
r u wanna die?
2020-11-18 10:01
1 reply
lmao yeah
2020-11-18 10:32
#304
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Philippines stahboi
nice HAHA
2020-11-17 13:40
#439
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Malaysia Decagram
lmao nice one
2020-11-17 17:36
#463
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Portugal Surya
+1 lul
2020-11-17 18:55
what does "loose it" mean? did you mean that he is loose?
2020-11-17 11:56
3 replies
#246
RpK | 
France pol44r
the mojo,the skill , if you stop playing for more than a year its really hard to perform has much as before in CS
2020-11-17 12:27
2 replies
You missed the point, it's spelled lose. The word loose has a compeletely different meaning than lose.
2020-11-17 12:46
1 reply
Exactly
2020-11-17 13:31
Unexpected, now ence will disband 100%
2020-11-17 10:46
5 replies
absolutly not, they have partnership contract with ESL
2020-11-17 11:08
3 replies
#233
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Slovakia xaboff
So did 100t, they also had one with blast
2020-11-17 12:16
2 replies
#409
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Spain N0Love
Different situations
2020-11-17 16:07
Yeah, that's really different, 100T have never work, Ence was TOP 3 HLTV, they just need to rebuild, doto is a good base for start
2020-11-17 22:49
Nah they won't disband. They just need to rebuild.
2020-11-17 18:56
dont say we, i dont.
2020-11-17 13:24
#314
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Canada Droidd
why saddyx and not slowi
2020-11-17 13:50
2 replies
Just a stand-in though.
2020-11-17 22:52
Havu doesn't want to release him probably. Their core is slowi, xseven & zoree (which is a very decent one)
2020-11-18 02:41
that what you get when you kick aleksib GOODBYE ENCE
2020-11-17 19:24
pog
2020-11-19 09:29
#2
shox | 
India iejesus
F
2020-11-17 10:45
yikes for ENCE
2020-11-17 10:45
#4
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Philippines batstew
rip sergej's career
2020-11-17 10:46
#5
RpK | 
France pol44r
poor guy cant perform without aleksi
2020-11-17 10:47
20 replies
#21
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Finland SunMutsi
"Decided to step down from the active roster in order to fulfill his Finnish military service duties."
2020-11-17 10:47
18 replies
#35
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Finland orange_719
#5 is still true tho
2020-11-17 10:49
3 replies
#41
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Finland SunMutsi
Yes, he edited after i commented.
2020-11-17 10:49
2 replies
#49
RpK | 
France pol44r
the edit didnt go through lol
2020-11-17 10:51
#73
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Finland orange_719
oh ok
2020-11-17 10:55
#37
RpK | 
France pol44r
still true but mybad
2020-11-17 10:49
1 reply
#42
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Finland SunMutsi
+1
2020-11-17 10:49
He didn't drop our of the roster because he wanted to fulfill his military service. He dropped because of lack of motivation and he's using this time smartly by fullfilling his service.
2020-11-17 12:04
6 replies
Do you guys in Finnland have to?
2020-11-17 14:44
4 replies
#406
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Finland Akiiz_
We do
2020-11-17 15:58
Not really now a days. Back in lets say early 2000s and before pretty much every man without disabilites or mental health issues had to do their service in army or civil service. Now its a bit More loose. You can get something called "c-papers" easily. It means you arent needed in military/civil service during peace times. All you need to say is that you arent motivated and dont feel like the constant social atmosphere is for you and thats it. Heck, I just said that I smoke weed and that im not interested, this is almost 10 years ago and I didint need to go. There is still this mentality with some people in Finland that every boy has to go to army in order to become "real man". Thats why mist go, social pressure.
2020-11-17 22:00
2 replies
Marsalkka Mannerheim turns in hes hauta D:
2020-11-18 04:03
Se intti täytyy käydä PRKL
2020-11-18 20:35
Hopefully he can work out what he wants to do when he completes his service. The time out will do him good though
2020-11-17 16:30
Did Kimi(F1 Driver) or Bottas do Mandatory Military Service? just curious after seeing this.
2020-11-17 17:15
4 replies
#447
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Finland SunMutsi
Yes. I didn't.
2020-11-17 17:55
2 replies
traitor commie
2020-11-18 02:42
1 reply
#538
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Finland SunMutsi
C-papers, unlucko.
2020-11-18 06:37
+1 unreal talent lol
2020-11-17 12:22
IM CRYING
2020-11-17 10:46
#7
kennyS | 
Germany sza_
rip
2020-11-17 10:46
Deserved
2020-11-17 10:46
F
2020-11-17 10:46
lmao
2020-11-17 10:46
#14
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France MIK120
disband inc.
2020-11-17 10:46
Allu last man standing
2020-11-17 10:47
5 replies
First and last
2020-11-17 15:08
4 replies
first man who started to ruin ence and last man that will finish it.
2020-11-17 18:49
3 replies
Also a man who created this team
2020-11-17 19:06
2 replies
and that gives him the rights to ruin it?
2020-11-17 19:07
1 reply
Never said so
2020-11-17 19:55
#16
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Germany Germania
Finnish cs in shambles
2020-11-17 10:47
1 reply
once again we've devolved into allu, sunny + 3 randoms, similar results expected as years prior
2020-11-17 13:48
GO DISBAND
2020-11-17 10:47
2 replies
This literally is a disband, if you consider the original lineup.
2020-11-17 13:10
1 reply
+1
2020-11-17 22:54
#18
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Asia loveall
Understandable.
2020-11-17 10:47
just realized that allu is the last katowice lineup player that is still in ence
2020-11-17 10:47
2 replies
#29
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Finland (RANE)
even if u count twista
2020-11-17 10:48
sad!
2020-11-17 10:52
rip ence
2020-11-17 10:47
#22
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Denmark devnr1
rip
2020-11-17 10:47
WHAT?
2020-11-17 10:47
guess the lawsuit isn't working out
2020-11-17 10:47
1 reply
Its not case in this post? Here in Finland its almost must go to military early because its pretty annoying listen 18-19 old kids when u are over 20. Good choice By sirgay
2020-11-17 10:56
Does he have a choice regarding the military service in Finland or is it mandatory?
2020-11-17 10:48
22 replies
Its mandatory, but you can delay it
2020-11-17 10:50
4 replies
And there is two year opinion rn to delay. Since Sergej is born in 2002 , he have to do the service in 2021/2022 unless he got the E papers
2020-11-17 10:56
3 replies
(Or c-papers.) But ofc in this case that didn't happen.
2020-11-17 13:01
1 reply
+1 forgot to mention
2020-11-17 13:02
Yeah, but he can get more delay cause he is pro
2020-11-17 13:39
#45
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Finland IISCA
Service is mandatory
2020-11-17 10:50
Mandatory, but he has the choice to delay the service for something like 10 more years.
2020-11-17 10:51
6 replies
#78 And E papers are possible to get for example if you have a broken leg atm, it is not 100% is it going to work like it should do. But for healty man those are quite hard to get
2020-11-17 10:57
5 replies
I did delay my service time for 4.5 years an I am perfectly healthy. They even tried to put me into AUK but I did write 45 pages long report why I can't serve longer than 182 days. It worked in my end.
2020-11-17 11:34
4 replies
Why I delayed it? Well I went to study and dropped out after few months. I had already delayed it for 2 years so I went traveling. I realized I have to do my military service when I was living in Brussels so I tried my luck and got delayed 2.5 years more.
2020-11-17 11:36
I wish that I could've had that kind of chance. They gave me C as I even wanted and tried even to get the E pspers but wasnt enough.
2020-11-17 11:54
2 replies
Diabetes?
2020-11-17 13:48
1 reply
Shoulder instability which is treated with surgery
2020-11-17 14:42
Nicht freiwillig
2020-11-17 10:53
It's mandatory but you can delay it
2020-11-17 10:59
Did somebody already say that it's mandatory but you can delay it
2020-11-17 11:23
3 replies
Its mandatory, but you can delay it
2020-11-17 11:32
No but I think it's mandatory though you can delay it
2020-11-17 11:32
#500
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Finland Nollegee
Are those redbulls only for the commercials or can you actually drink them? No, you can actually drink them :D
2020-11-17 21:10
I believe it’s mandatory but I also believe you can delay it.
2020-11-17 11:48
Esports players have the possibility of an easier military service in order to practice and go to tournaments
2020-11-17 11:52
Esports players get counted as athletes if they wish which gives them more free time to play and practice and their service is more aimed at physical training.
2020-11-17 13:17
#26
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Romania RunnerB0Y
NOT EZ4ENCE
2020-11-17 10:48
RIP :(
2020-11-17 10:48
#28
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Russia mshkoda
Now in the roster stay only one finalist for Katowice 2019 (allu). Kicking Aleksib was maybe the worst shuffle move in cs history recent time.
2020-11-17 10:48
1 reply
#128
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Finland HARD4ENCE
Yeah, I bet they would still be at least top 10 with the old roster. Now they are dropping out of top 30 and soon to disband I think.
2020-11-17 11:19
BIG mistake selling xseven. this roster is in complete shambles. ggwp to sergej
2020-11-17 10:48
3 replies
+1 testo is god, bestest support in the wrorld
2020-11-17 10:50
#56
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Finland orange_719
the downhill began when they kicked aleksi
2020-11-17 10:52
1 reply
#115
arT | 
Russia bult0
the sky is blue
2020-11-17 11:13
#32
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Finland Temathael
Expected, he clearly lost his passion for the game. He's still super young, so 6 to 12 month break will do wonders, if he still wants to pursue a professional career after that.
2020-11-17 10:49
4 replies
2020-11-17 11:30
3 replies
#162
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Finland Temathael
Don't know how that's relevant to what I wrote. Nice to see fellow Camel Riders fan, though!
2020-11-17 11:32
2 replies
i was just adding to what you said, i think the xseven move was retarded
2020-11-17 11:33
1 reply
#187
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Finland Temathael
Yea, not that smart for sure
2020-11-17 11:43
#33
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Finland lungi_cs
what the fuck happened to this team
2020-11-17 10:48
2 replies
Look how they massacred my boy..
2020-11-17 10:52
1 reply
#69
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Finland lungi_cs
indeed
2020-11-17 10:54
Feels like allu pushed them all out tbh.... Kicked aleksib and just became the biggest baiter of all tome after that, literally every single player in the team just went out before allu so he could get 2 easy awp kills every round
2020-11-17 10:48
17 replies
allu didnt kick aleksib
2020-11-17 10:56
15 replies
THEN TELL ME WHO DID? Typical allu fan
2020-11-17 11:24
13 replies
#170
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Finland Faust_fSt
allu initiated the roster move to get in suNny, but he doesn't have the power to sell or sign players - the CEO and other higher-ups (miqaqu and natu, in this case) are responsible for any and all roster moves.
2020-11-17 11:36
11 replies
Lmao yea right :D the benching decision came from allu 100% and that's why natu had to kick him then So it's allu's fault
2020-11-17 12:10
1 reply
#231
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Finland Faust_fSt
if a 2 year old at a sandbox wants to eat mud, it's his guardian's job to stop him, ergo the guardian is responsible, not the 2 year old
2020-11-17 12:15
#322
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Ukraine ksay
dude allu was the one who pushed the narrative of aleksib being useless he even said that aleksib is overrated when NiKo asked him about picking up new igl for faze without allu ence would still have an igl it's quiet simple
2020-11-17 14:05
8 replies
#347
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Finland Faust_fSt
Bunch of general bullshit, rumors twisted into facts, no real information or insight and no relevancy to my comment. Why is HLTV avg iq somewhere around 50? >>>allu does not sign or negate contracts for ENCE.<<< The responsibility of running the org is on the actual management, no matter what the players want.
2020-11-17 14:34
7 replies
yes i agree with your lower paragraph, because generally that's how it goes, but allu is a special case. he actually owns a significant part of the organization. so you could say he's not an employee in ENCE. he is a partner.
2020-11-17 14:57
4 replies
#369
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Finland Faust_fSt
6% shares is not a significant organization owner, they also have a specifically signed CEO to be responsible for roster moves.
2020-11-17 14:59
3 replies
i still remember the analysts and commentators saying that it was a bad move to bench aleksi. they just didn't understand why, but then the words were written plainly on the wall: we need more firepower. i guess they didn't care at the expense of what.. or someone's ego in the team forced him to believe he could do a better job. if as you say that there is a person in charge of roster moves.. that guy should be fired.
2020-11-17 15:35
2 replies
#392
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Finland Faust_fSt
ENCE wanted sunny, could not afford him without selling aleksib or sergej, they got an offer to buy aleksib, they saw it as a chance to get sunny. Absolutely retarded but that's how it went down. And yes, Mika Kuusisto is the CEO of ENCE, responsible for roster decisions (at least according to himself).
2020-11-17 15:41
1 reply
well that guy doesn't understand that in csgo.. one player can make or break the team. thats why everybody in the scene is just wondering if 6-man or 7-man rosters are even possible in this game.
2020-11-17 15:43
#386
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Ukraine ksay
of course management is responsible but this is not how roster changes in cs works. obviously management won't do shit without other team members agreement. ence 100% asked twista and allu about their teammate's input (when they tried to get sunny). if twista and allu liked igl then it wouldn't have happened 100% also few moments 1)kicking aleksib from the management perspective is a huge damage to brand. everyone was expecting -xseven/aerial. why they fuck would they self-sabotage?! 2) aleksib was the one who denied getting sunny in his interviews. so he wasn't a part of the discussion. but everyone knew that allu was talking to sunny behind the scene. he even admited it in his interviews
2020-11-17 15:38
1 reply
its not that only, because out of all of them aleksib was the one good at talking to interviewers, etc. being the face of ence, so on. having a likable personality on camera goes a long way in building a brand.
2020-11-17 15:37
#179
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Finland Paasikivi
Well, the whole team
2020-11-17 11:40
Don't lie to yourself. ENCE right now is just like Envy in NA. allu/ Nifty are both the man having the power in the team. Sadly the owners believed their proficiency and turned their team in to Tier 3.
2020-11-17 12:04
This is actually completely true
2020-11-17 15:08
#36
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Switzerland rhyzr
poor sehrgay
2020-11-17 10:49
official ence death
2020-11-17 10:49
3 replies
happened when they kicked aleksi
2020-11-17 10:49
2 replies
#136
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Finland HARD4ENCE
Technically yes. They signed their own death sentence by that time. Then it was just a slow withering death after that. While still technically alive then it was not much more than a reanimated corpse.
2020-11-17 11:23
1 reply
yes
2020-11-17 12:17
#47
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Yugoslavia RiggedShit
Allu wanted to kick aleksib and now he is the only player left in the team :D Karma is a bitch
2020-11-17 10:50
1 reply
he's just following niko's example. he's going to drain every bit of life out of this org and join another team.
2020-11-17 15:39
hopefully he comes back and joins a good team instead of dead Ence
2020-11-17 10:50
lul hahahah
2020-11-17 10:51
Only respectable option from now on is to disband before reaching below top 30
2020-11-17 10:52
2 replies
+1
2020-11-17 10:54
#217
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Europe Niko0
They won't. It would be stupid to disband before they sell Allu to some int team
2020-11-17 12:02
God Saddyx <3
2020-11-17 10:51
RIP ENCE
2020-11-17 10:52
hltv did this lmao
2020-11-17 10:52
1 reply
Sergej did it to himself, he doesn't enjoy playing cs
2020-11-17 11:06
finally
2020-11-17 10:52
F
2020-11-17 10:52
is he obligated to serve to the military? i thought you could pay your fee and dont need to serve
2020-11-17 10:52
3 replies
maybe in russia not in finland. One can do civil service (work), go to military or go to jail. Or like some do just cry to doctor and the doctor will release you from service during time of peace
2020-11-17 10:55
2 replies
#266
nope | 
Finland zntei
jail bestest)))
2020-11-17 12:52
thats so dumb i dont have to give my 6 month-a year away to noone
2020-11-17 14:29
Well miss you #13 Best of luck to you and hopefully we will see you again at server<3
2020-11-17 10:53
nice, SADDYX > sergej
2020-11-17 10:53
#67
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Romania sky27
the threads about his 5h/2 weeks on cs were right dammit
2020-11-17 10:53
disband pls
2020-11-17 10:53
expected
2020-11-17 10:54
From MEME to MEME gj Ence!
2020-11-17 10:56
EZ4SADDYX
2020-11-17 10:56
#80
RpK | 
Turkey MrAycan
its should be a good break for serge we all know he isnt playing the game that much i hope he comes back with a better feelings
2020-11-17 10:56
#83
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Finland orange_719
Just disband at this point and release the players. Everyone knows this won't lead anywhere. Maybe someone else can build a new Finnish roster from all the free agents.
2020-11-17 10:58
2 replies
#144
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Finland HARD4ENCE
Yeah it could happen. Kinda need to wait for Aleksib's release from OG first since there isn't much igl depth in the Finnish scene. But yeah, keeping this ENCE project still going is just wasting everyone's time and money.
2020-11-17 11:26
1 reply
I don't think aleksi is going to be released any time soon because they have been performing pretty well recently (ignoring the matches with Spirit and Gen.G) so they just have to find a new igl from Finnish scene
2020-11-17 11:45
#84
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Finland Spoelstra
He will turn back stronger
2020-11-17 10:58
At least allu have fun playing with sunny
2020-11-17 10:59
Told u
2020-11-17 10:59
And since Krystal got kicked from Godsent, seems to be that FPX refused to buy the roster, zehN could join ENCE in 2021
2020-11-17 11:00
1 reply
#525
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Finland Nollegee
After majors yes if it will happen in 2021
2020-11-18 02:34
#90
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Finland Jaskabb
allu is the only one left
2020-11-17 11:00
-jamppi next
2020-11-17 11:00
theres military in finland?
2020-11-17 11:01
4 replies
yes, it's compulsory
2020-11-17 11:06
3 replies
yes, but he could have denied it if he had wanted to.
2020-11-17 11:24
2 replies
#155
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Lebanon Dogman69
is he cna go to sports service?
2020-11-17 11:30
1 reply
yes he is are ising areing
2020-11-17 11:31
just disband already wtf
2020-11-17 11:03
fuckin what
2020-11-17 11:03
#95
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World Beard43
Unlucko. If ENCE can pick up their game they could be top 5, then they'll be in a prime position to kick their IGL for more firepower.
2020-11-17 11:03
#96
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Europe PiapA
Allu last man standing, Complete the mission
2020-11-17 11:03
#97
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Poland matoss
only allu left from the major final vs astralis sad
2020-11-17 11:04
slowly becoming tier10
2020-11-17 11:04
ENCE is dead
2020-11-17 11:04
huh
2020-11-17 11:04
#101
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Europe Holiwis
I mean he had like 2 hrs in the last 2 weeks xd
2020-11-17 11:04
rip ence
2020-11-17 11:07
from beating liquid and navi to reach major final to this.. hard4ence
2020-11-17 11:09
#108
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Asia en1lykS
I didn't know Finland have a military duties 🤔 Is it a must like South Korean?
2020-11-17 11:10
6 replies
#120
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Finland 0lter
yes or 12 months in civilian service Or 3 months parole
2020-11-17 11:15
5 replies
Any Finnish citizen who refuses to perform both military and civilian service faces a penalty of 173 days in prison, minus any served days. Such sentences are usually served fully in prison, with no parole. This lied to me?
2020-11-17 13:27
3 replies
#410
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Finland 0lter
Thats old info these days there have been already a few cases of parole 3 months but because full army refusal is very very rare in finland so it hasnt been made all that clear in the court some get parole some get jail few get neither like jehovah people even though it says they have to go military also but it isnt the case
2020-11-17 16:08
2 replies
Ooh okay thanks for the info!
2020-11-17 16:27
#519
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Denmark zEHOw~9~
how to read this shit
2020-11-18 00:12
#523
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Asia en1lykS
Oh, well.. Thank you for the explanation, my friend
2020-11-18 00:53
#109
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Poland Astoner55
In military service if he also puts in 3 hours per two weeks I think they will beat him(((
2020-11-17 11:11
congratulations on ruining your career
2020-11-17 11:11
3 replies
#236
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Norway Triplex02
Not his choice
2020-11-17 12:17
2 replies
"ENCE's 18-year-old star cited a lack of motivation for Counter-Strike" I know that you're talking about the mandatory military service but he was also lacking motivation to play CS, it was also his choice to stop playing CS that much tho, so it was also his choice
2020-11-17 12:43
it was his choice. finland's service is different from norway i think. if the state recognizes you to be a sports player you'll get special privileges. this means less time in the armed forces and same period of service. so if he's getting benched.. it was his choice.
2020-11-17 14:10
- aleksib + sunNy - xseveN + Jamppi - Aerial + doto - sergej + SADDYX There's only allu left from the lineup that went to the Katowice 2019 Final :c
2020-11-17 11:11
1 reply
And he will stay there as long as he wants because he is friends with Natu.
2020-11-17 11:14
Only allu is remaining now...he destroyed whole ence single handedly.
2020-11-17 11:12
add firepower
2020-11-17 11:12
#117
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Finland 0lter
young hitter
2020-11-17 11:14
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD Next -Sunny +Jemi Ence doing worst then MiBR ahhahhha
2020-11-17 11:14
Only allu left from original 2019 ence squad lol, all you can blame is allu for kicking aleksib.
2020-11-17 11:15
#124
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Finland OldStager
ahhahahhahahhahahahha
2020-11-17 11:16
pls + jemi
2020-11-17 11:19
Disband. This is over.
2020-11-17 11:20
lmao!!!!!!!!!! What on earth xdddddddddddd
2020-11-17 11:20
Bench the kiddos, keep the legends
2020-11-17 11:22
#137
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Estonia FrispeN
TOP5 in finnish military. Good aim =DDD
2020-11-17 11:22
allu its time to go back to drug selling now
2020-11-17 11:22
he will find motivation again after working in K-Market for one week and earning 15 € / hour.
2020-11-17 11:23
3 replies
15€? In Germany, you get between 10-12€
2020-11-17 11:28
2 replies
It's also 10-12€ in Finland
2020-11-17 11:30
1 reply
#269
nope | 
Finland zntei
My mom has worked in grocery stores for almost 30 years now and earns 12€/hour...
2020-11-17 12:55
this meme team LMAO
2020-11-17 11:26
All start with AleksiB kick. It is funny how kicks end up badly. Faze, Ence and Godsent full of joke players. You don't have to like your IGL you have to work with him and work for success. if you can't do that you are all trash players that don't deserve to have the privilege to play for money.
2020-11-17 11:27
14 replies
#171
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United Kingdom DDoubleE
Did you even read? Sergej is forced to do his military service lol. Hes on Ence bench atm.
2020-11-17 11:36
13 replies
Forced?? Can you read? 18-year-old star cited a lack of motivation for Counter-Strike and decided to step down from the active roster. His decision to do it now. He can do it between 18-30 anytime he wants.
2020-11-17 11:47
12 replies
#203
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United Kingdom DDoubleE
READ AGAIN. Ffs. Finland have mandatory military service. He is forced to join the army and yes he also stepped down because of lack of motivation. "and decided to step down from the active roster in order to fulfill his Finnish military service duties." "Any Finnish citizen who refuses to perform both military and civilian service faces a penalty of 173 days in prison, minus any served days." Yes, he is forced. And, since he took a break from CS it makes sense to finish the military stuff
2020-11-17 11:51
11 replies
Wikipedia says you can do it between 18-30 and can choose normally when. Also why Jamppi has then not to go?? He could do nothing right now. it is his choice to do military service now. Free will *Mindblowing* is the opposite from force. You have obv no clue. English is your native language and you can't read it OMEGALUL.
2020-11-17 11:53
10 replies
#215
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United Kingdom DDoubleE
"Also why Jamppi has then not to go??" Because he most likey want to fight his VAC ban, if that doesn't work out he most likely will join the army as well. " it is his choice to do military service now. Free will *Mindblowing* is the opposite from force." Did you even read? He would get 173 days in prison if he refused to do it before he turns 30. It's not free will because he is still forced to do it within 12 years. And, now when he is unmotivated it makes sense for him to do it, maybe he will come back stronger, who knows. Only clueless person here is you, clearly.
2020-11-17 12:01
9 replies
He can just keep skipping it untill he is too old to do it, as he has a good reason for skipping it. Same w aleksib who is yet to go to military. Idk if u r fake flagger but why u so sure abt stuff that isnt even in your country :DDD?
2020-11-17 12:31
4 replies
#403
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United Kingdom DDoubleE
"He can just keep skipping it untill he is too old to do it" Then why would you have "173 days in prison"? Makes zero sense if you guys have "173 days in prison if you refuse" if a Finnish male can just say "nah ill do it next year, nah ill do it next year, nah ill do it next year" until he is 30+? I mean: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_Fi.. And no, i am not Finnish. And where did i say that i was sure about it? lol, its not like i argued with a Finnish dude? Hes German. "as he has a good reason for skipping" Good reason? xD "Yeah i play games on my PC" lol. Anyways, the whole point was about Sergej most likely joining the army to take a break from gaming and obviously build up his body, he looks like a stick right now.
2020-11-17 15:58
3 replies
Playing on a high competitive level in any sport is a good enough reason in Finland as is studying, owning a company and so on
2020-11-17 16:43
2 replies
#424
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United Kingdom DDoubleE
Alright. But, in general, lets say if you, as a normal worker at a shop, idk your age but you get me, refuse to join, then you would get 173 days, right?
2020-11-17 16:48
1 reply
refuse without a proper reason? then yes.
2020-11-17 16:54
you owned yourself gz
2020-11-17 12:32
nt
2020-11-17 13:26
So what you're basically saying is: The finnish military waits for Jamppi to file and contest his vac-lawsuit. Sure, like, no. As far as I understood his statement, Sergej lost his motivation for CS:GO which is why he chose to do his military service now.
2020-11-17 21:07
1 reply
#502
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United Kingdom DDoubleE
"So what you're basically saying is: The finnish military waits for Jamppi to file and contest his vac-lawsuit" No? That is not what i said? Maybe read? I literally said that Jamppi most likely will wait out the lawsuit stuff and then join the army if shit hits the fan. I said: "Because he most likey want to fight his VAC ban, if that doesn't work out he most likely will join the army as well." ??? If you read what the Finnish people and the German guy is saying they said that you "need" to do it between the age of 18-30. Jamppi is 19 atm, he got 11 more years lol. "Sergej lost his motivation for CS:GO which is why he chose to do his military service now." Yes, Sergej wanted a break from CS/gaming and choose to bench himself in Ence to complete his military service.
2020-11-17 21:14
Lol now old ence can make a team without bot allu
2020-11-17 11:28
Damn this makes me sad :(
2020-11-17 11:29
#151
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Lebanon Dogman69
HLTV Steam hours snipers made him quit. Sad!
2020-11-17 11:29
4 replies
#173
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United Kingdom DDoubleE
2020-11-17 11:36
3 replies
#176
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Lebanon Dogman69
you can postpone military service you can fail medical
2020-11-17 11:38
2 replies
#183
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United Kingdom DDoubleE
lol, bruh. He also felt unmotivated, so this could be a good break for him. He can also build some muscles in the army since he is tiny at the age of 18, lul.
2020-11-17 11:41
1 reply
#273
nope | 
Finland zntei
Yeah rye bread and porridge will build some quality muscle
2020-11-17 13:00
1/21 ei kotiudu koskaan.
2020-11-17 11:29
6 replies
+1
2020-11-17 11:30
+1
2020-11-17 12:29
#337
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Finland cuntycorn
I'm 1/10 and still here, last 8 years in the woods... the notorious jälkirova... Sent from iPhone
2020-11-17 14:27
2 replies
hajoo me dägä
2020-11-17 16:17
Dont worry you are half way through it guud jop mai frend stei teer and virtanen wil ket juu from teer bäck
2020-11-18 22:39
+1
2020-11-18 22:36
ENCE are the CEO of benching wrong players KEKW
2020-11-17 11:30
1 reply
#175
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United Kingdom DDoubleE
2020-11-17 11:37
GL
2020-11-17 11:31
#161
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Finland Jambi_
oof
2020-11-17 11:32
#166
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Brunei cyLoL
EZ for Finland army soon they will have sergej and cheater jammpi will winned every war
2020-11-17 11:33
waste of talent.
2020-11-17 11:33
why are finnish companies always so incompetent? they make a good thing and then they start making shit decisions and completely ruin it
2020-11-17 11:36
5 replies
It's called the Nokian syöpä
2020-11-17 13:05
3 replies
I love my nokian hakkapeliitta. Great winter tires.
2020-11-17 22:25
2 replies
Does Nokia Tires have an HQ in the US?
2020-11-20 17:42
1 reply
They do.
2020-11-23 01:20
Or sell it to foreigners, que every fucking mine and metal factory we got
2020-11-17 13:17
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
2020-11-17 11:37
Only 1 player remains from the original roster, and that's of course papa Allu :D
2020-11-17 11:38
#178
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Poland Po_Prostu
why not aleksib? oh i forgot...
2020-11-17 11:40
gj ence, better keep those sweet players that will not allow u to compete in majors lmao, iq strong
2020-11-17 11:40
ez serGAY
2020-11-17 11:40
Sergej is still only 18? That's kinda crazy.
2020-11-17 11:41
2 replies
ikr i'm older than him lol
2020-11-17 12:04
1 reply
Jamppi is actually older than sergej which was kinda funny i thought :()
2020-11-17 12:27
he has like 9 hrs past 2 weeks.. sad
2020-11-17 11:41
#186
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Sweden bonisMEN
we hltv mens )) already knew this mens ))
2020-11-17 11:42
This is why Finnish people cant go pro in cs, they need to take a 1 year break))))
2020-11-17 11:43
Rip sergej's cs career... I remember aslak being a god tier awp, went to the army and never came back :( maybe he found a gf/bf, who knows. Sad finns :( Gl mr. sergej! I'll miss u :X
2020-11-17 11:44
2 replies
RIP
2020-11-18 00:14
He is just on a secret mission to take back karjala
2020-11-18 22:43
aamuja
2020-11-17 11:45
kidding me, first of aleksib, now sergej . ence headquarters 0 IQ
2020-11-17 11:45
2 replies
He benched himself, how is it the org's fault?
2020-11-17 13:07
1 reply
oh sorry, i didn't read the article. lul. anyway first mistake was awful
2020-11-17 13:51
haha kick Aleksib and goes from one of the best teams to one of the worst teams
2020-11-17 11:45
#195
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Finland FlNLAND
Ah, the main snake has completed his job
2020-11-17 11:47
Shows how mismanagement can easily break a potential toptier team
2020-11-17 11:47
Just wanna train some shooting skills irl
2020-11-17 11:48
18 and already washed up ENCE setting records everywhere they go
2020-11-17 11:49
#205
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Sweden RaaCCooN
Ok
2020-11-17 11:49
He is 18, pretty sure he puts girls over cs atm lmao
2020-11-17 11:50
I guess he’s not having fun. Hopfully he comes back closer to his 2019 form.
2020-11-17 11:53
guess he couldn't handle the fun times in ence
2020-11-17 11:53
military service in 2k20
2020-11-17 11:58
2 replies
#226
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World Notb8ing
mr putin very scary mad man...
2020-11-17 12:08
#507
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Finland roihu_
You would like all men to be trained soldiers if there was a country called Russia next to you.
2020-11-17 22:23
Sad mens :(((
2020-11-17 12:08
Ence 2020 plan is to own all finnish players ?
2020-11-17 12:08
#227
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World Notb8ing
Not surprised, this man's motivation has always been just sketchy
2020-11-17 12:10
Kicking aleksib has to have been one of the worst roster moves in csgo history. Everyone considered it terrible then, and nothing has been done to change that initial assessment. It reverberates still to today, where the biggest recent talent in the country is so disillusioned with the team he's playing for, that he has to consider destroying a promising career.
2020-11-17 12:15
Didn't even know Finland has a army lool
2020-11-17 12:18
12 replies
Almost million men strong (conscription) because they are located next to Russia.
2020-11-17 14:20
11 replies
Let's be honest if they were to get invaded they could not do anything about it
2020-11-17 14:59
10 replies
they did in ww2
2020-11-17 15:30
#404
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Europe Niko0
Well, it depends. If Finland goes to war, it wont be just 2 countries in war then. And at that point, im pretty sure Russia wont put all of their soldiers to invade Finland. Considering how strong artillery they have, Finland has a pretty good chance.
2020-11-17 15:56
5 replies
#521
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Denmark zEHOw~9~
Why would they invade something they made themself `? finland is just a soviet-japan procject
2020-11-18 00:24
4 replies
Huh? Sweden made Finland not Russia
2020-11-18 04:49
3 replies
#562
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Europe Niko0
+1
2020-11-18 14:51
1 reply
#573
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Denmark zEHOw~9~
If you agree with him, nauci me.
2020-11-18 19:59
#572
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Denmark zEHOw~9~
Explain? How, when/ during what period/time? I can tell you something else.
2020-11-18 19:58
Let's be honest if almost any country (NATO/other orgs not involved) were to get invaded they could not do anything about it. I'm Finnish and I hate when people bring up Winter War, like if modern days were anything like that. Finland would get fucked by Russia, if they actually launched all out attack, but they won't. Cost is just too high compared to gain. Without defence forces they could just pretty much walk to the capital and win without almost any resistance. Only period when Russia could attack is during WW3 and even then they could only send small part of their military to invade Finland.
2020-11-17 17:28
You don't train martial arts to win bar fights, you learn it to not get into a fight in the first place.
2020-11-18 11:25
wtf
2020-11-17 12:22
Well he's so young that he doesnt know anything of the REAL world. Anyone at that age would lose motivation with those results after being the absolute tier 1 team in the world making into grand finals in tournament after tournament. As someone said he prob gets his motivation back after realizing that he either has to go to school now or live the rest of his life earning shit salary from a local supermarket. The team has always lacked structure after they kicked aleksib and brought in a washed up suNny and they paid the prize for that move. Immediately from #2 spot in the world to tier 3 losing to shit teams. And since there's no real IGL it's not going to change. Why they had to be that dumb? What was the real reason for that move? They just wanted to play with a washed up bot, is that really it?
2020-11-17 12:25
4 replies
i think allu didn't quite realize how much skill it actually takes to be a good igl for a team. so he probably just thought: "aleksi isn't even good at fragging and i can probably igl as good or better than him". then later on he realized that it's not so easy and i bet he still regrets the day they made that move
2020-11-17 12:48
1 reply
He might regret it but he is clearly not admitting it based on the interview he did in ENCE twitch channel a while ago. He also kept trying to low key diss and downplay the effect of IGLs so the bonehead has not learned anything.
2020-11-17 14:03
+1 really well put
2020-11-17 12:48
Just the same thing with FaZe. They become worse and worse without real igl but didn't change anything
2020-11-17 16:18
#250
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Sweden hausmanis
Not so easy for ENCE without AleksiB. When they had Aleksib they were freaking topp 5 team in the world at some occasions...what are they now ? top 30-40 ?
2020-11-17 12:30
5 replies
Nothing away from Aleksib, but it´s funny how ppl just thinks it was all because of Aleksib, but the AUG was also OP back then and that meta suited ENCE very well. Just watch their pre-nerf matches and you can see how much they used it and how they became pretty mediocre right after the nerf.
2020-11-17 13:13
4 replies
#360
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Finland cuntycorn
AUG nerf was in June 2019 and after that ENCE lost to: -Heroic and Vitality in Cologne. Losing to Heroic was bad but Vitality was #2 and went all the way to finals, so kinda acceptable. -Liquid in IEM Chigago FINALS, Liquid was unbeatable at that time. -Renegades in Berlin Major, the story of ENCE was basically over at that point so can't count this in. One bad game after the nerf so I wouldn't say it affected them that much.
2020-11-17 14:46
3 replies
Yeah, but if they suppose to be top5 team with Aleksib, losing to #2 isn´t that obvious and they really didn´t have any chance to win 2 of the maps. In IEM Chicago besides Liquid there were no real contenders, except maybe G2 or Vitality and ENCE ended up finals without playing against neither one of them. In final the lost BADLY and got only 5 rounds total in 2 first maps, which you can´t explain just saying "Liquid were unbeatable".
2020-11-17 16:35
2 replies
#425
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Finland cuntycorn
My point is that I wouldn't have been surprised by those results even before the aug nerf. They were good yes but TL and vita were one step ahead, maybe two.
2020-11-17 16:49
I understand that living in denial at these times is the way to go for ence fans
2020-11-17 18:19
Finland is such a sexist country. Forcing young men to work against their will for 6-12 months when women don’t have to. That’s equality for you :D
2020-11-17 12:41
14 replies
#275
nope | 
Finland zntei
Yes and if you refuse you're on parole
2020-11-17 13:01
11 replies
Yes or in lther words legal house arrest where you have a band around your ankle and are not allowed to leave your home unless it’s for school/work.
2020-11-17 13:06
Finland should start making life equal for men too and not talk about women’s rights constantly
2020-11-17 13:07
9 replies
life is not equal and that's fine. women shouldn't be conscripted. it's already enough that half of the population makes the sacrifice, but that's part of life and our culture as well. we do have a nasty neighbor to the east and without that threat we might as well stop conscription altogether. "women's rights" in this country are not a question of equality. it's a question of madness by some insane individuals who really shouldn't be voicing their opinions, because it really has been a non issue for almost half a century at least.. probably even more.
2020-11-17 14:06
6 replies
Tldr The law should be the same for everyone.
2020-11-17 14:18
5 replies
are you braindead? if your attention span is too low to read a few sentences the only proper course of action for you is to click this link. hltv.org/logout otherwise you just proved my point. some people should not voice their opinions.
2020-11-17 14:49
4 replies
Stay mad
2020-11-17 14:50
3 replies
why would i get mad at someone revealing themselves to be a moron? my initial response was disappointment. now its just me being amused seeing how pathetic your bait is.
2020-11-17 14:59
2 replies
Just chill instead of being so mad
2020-11-17 15:04
1 reply
#574
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Denmark zEHOw~9~
What about you put yourself together, instead of acting like a wennie? Pathetic kid
2020-11-18 20:02
they're planning 6 month mandatory service f or women for things being equal you may choose to spend 6 months doing service (20% drop out from service who currently starts it), or civil service instead of army, or under house arrest playing vidya, or if you have an illness or anything doctors might write you off from all mandatory services
2020-11-17 14:24
1 reply
Really? Didn’t think Finland would’ve actuallly done that.
2020-11-17 14:26
True. Equality is the last thing current feminism movement wants.
2020-11-17 15:40
1 reply
+1
2020-11-17 16:30
nice i will go during the same time as sergej, if he goes to the same place as me i will get a selfie with him and post here
2020-11-17 12:46
1 reply
#277
nope | 
Finland zntei
Take a pic of his sour milk glass :DD
2020-11-17 13:03
Ence is dead?
2020-11-17 12:47
rip ence
2020-11-17 12:53
bout time he leaves this sinking ship
2020-11-17 12:57
Kicking aleksib was the biggest misstake in csgo history
2020-11-17 12:58
2 replies
+1 aleksib tactics carried them to top3, but they publically said "they wanted to raise higher and aleksib needed to be cut from team to achieve that" and now they are like top30-35 at best, smart move finnish :DD
2020-11-17 13:15
+1
2020-11-17 23:01
End of ENCE
2020-11-17 13:14
2 replies
it ended more than a year ago when they benched aleksib. whatever semblance of structure and teamplay disappeared when that happened.
2020-11-17 13:49
1 reply
Agree, but now they finally doomed themselves when they took 2 guys who aren't even top20 player list in finland
2020-11-17 18:17
Goodbye soldier!
2020-11-17 13:19
Why not sLowi? sLowi has 5x better aim than SADDYX
2020-11-17 13:35
5 replies
maybe he doesn’t want to be part of a sinking ship
2020-11-17 14:34
4 replies
HAVU has 3 active players in the lineup. HAVU will be worse than ENCE unless they decide to go international.
2020-11-17 14:37
3 replies
jamppi, doto and saw will come to HAVU after ENCE is disbanded
2020-11-17 14:41
2 replies
#355
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Finland Vaittify
ENCE after allu-era: xseveN sLowii ZOREE zehN Jamppi sAw coach
2020-11-17 14:44
1 reply
doto > jamppi
2020-11-17 19:17
#308
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Argentina jqn
nice, ence is shit
2020-11-17 13:47
#313
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United States xcalibot
HAHHAHAHA ence no more
2020-11-17 13:50
What is wrong with ence
2020-11-17 13:57
the -aleksib move really fucked them
2020-11-17 13:58
haha ence killed all finland teams already
2020-11-17 14:00
1 reply
+1 sad but true. The funniest thing is that they are still shit :D
2020-11-17 16:15
#324
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Ukraine ksay
nooooo my favorite WoW player :'(
2020-11-17 14:06
mornings :DDdddddddd
2020-11-17 14:14
ENCE 200 iq move single handedly destroying the entire Finnish scene piece by piece until they auto-win always in Finnish tournaments.
2020-11-17 14:17
#329
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Australia csRIOTgo
KappaPride RIP :(
2020-11-17 14:19
#330
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Croatia Makz_CRO
Imagine playing in such a bad team you would rather do military service lmao
2020-11-17 14:19
4 replies
mandatory
2020-11-18 04:43
3 replies
#557
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Croatia Makz_CRO
No shit dude, but there are tons of ways to bypass it
2020-11-18 11:18
2 replies
u can just delay it but not bypass, unless you have a medical reason for it Also it is online era atm, team is doing shit so why not just get it done
2020-11-18 16:31
1 reply
#568
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Croatia Makz_CRO
Don't get me wrong, I am not saying he is making a bad move. I was just implying ENCE is trash ever since they kicked Aleksib. I said they would be bad the moment he left and now they seem worse than ever.
2020-11-18 16:46
-Saddyx +Slowi
2020-11-17 14:25
xD
2020-11-17 14:27
RIP firepower
2020-11-17 14:27
Military... welp
2020-11-17 14:28
WAT e: only read the title and came to comment but read after commenting and "fulfill his Finnish military service duties" makes sense e2: read the linked tweet and it says "Jere has asked to be removed from the playing roster due to lack of motivation to fully contribute as a player" WTF
2020-11-17 14:33
mouz sunny mouz allu fpl jamppi havu doto
2020-11-17 14:33
rip finnish cs
2020-11-17 14:40
EZ TOP50
2020-11-17 14:40
Allu "twofaced" Toledo strikes again lul
2020-11-17 14:46
#359
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Poland SebL
He had to be removed anyway, dude had literally 0 impact in the game. SADDYX would be insane pickup for them, guy is one of the best prospects in Finland atm. This roster of ENCE still needs more firepower, but with small changes they might be really good again.
2020-11-17 14:46
EZTIER54ENCE
2020-11-17 14:56
how long is the military service in finland ?
2020-11-17 15:15
1 reply
6 / 9 / 12 months depending what you do there
2020-11-17 15:45
18 years old and second time losing motivation already. Maybe not suited for the top flight
2020-11-17 15:15
2 replies
Seems like it. Unfortunate because i think the kid actually had potential. Will more than likely regret his choice in a few years :()
2020-11-20 12:42
1 reply
Yes I do agree, he will definately regret it big time in a few years, when he is not good enough anymore. A big shame, cause he was my favourite ence/finnish player, and the one with the biggest potential as you mentioned
2020-11-20 17:39
Ence needs to gets international igl, thats the only hope for them to establish at least top 30 team
2020-11-17 15:15
4 replies
#480
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Finland Porro
they have second bet igl in finland
2020-11-17 19:51
3 replies
Who lol
2020-11-17 19:59
2 replies
#485
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Finland Porro
sAw
2020-11-17 20:02
#486
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Finland Porro
very underrated but he is actually genius havu claim third place fp 1s because he work very hard
2020-11-17 20:03
#NOTEZ4ENCE
2020-11-17 15:21
he needs a break from cs , hopefully millitary does it job
2020-11-17 15:21
Rip ence. Only allu remains from The original nad The best squad. Fucking permanent changes will destroy this game
2020-11-17 15:37
HAVU aimed for SADDYX confirmed twitter.com/HAVUdisturbed/status/1328634..
2020-11-17 15:42
1 reply
#402
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Canada firtlast
“perkele” -disturbed
2020-11-17 15:50
Is he going to do military service? Rip his career if true
2020-11-17 15:43
1 reply
#513
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Finland 5way
can u fuckin read?
2020-11-17 23:01
tired at 18 😓
2020-11-17 15:45
ENCE is going to be worst than Space Soldiers trust my words they kicked xseven aerial aleksib now sergej.These players was when ENCE get finals on Major hahahahah what are they doing?????????????
2020-11-17 15:45
2 replies
they didnt kick sergej or aerial though
2020-11-17 17:08
they havent kicked aerial or sergej
2020-11-17 17:22
he's gonna come back more matured and stronger, GL!
2020-11-17 15:49
Unlikely that Ence will ever return to being as good as last year.
2020-11-17 15:58
#411
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Sweden Zolity
wot
2020-11-17 16:12
Hopefully sergej comes back in full force in the future. ENCE really needed him and he was there for them despite his downhill performance this year. With allu constantly doing the best on the team, I think that sunNy needs to step it up now. He's a great player on paper, but is about average at best when it comes to actually playing in an event.
2020-11-17 16:23
2 replies
Don't remember a single player who's gone off to do their military service and has come back "in full force". Do remember several who completely lost it though. Aslak probably the example people might still remember.
2020-11-17 17:42
1 reply
Honestly, I'm just being super optimistic. I know CSGO is different from Starcraft 2, but a lot of Korean players who returned to the competitive pro scene in SC2 after doing their military service have been relatively good still.
2020-11-17 19:48
Nice allu ,gj for destroying that only tier 1 finish team these scene has had...
2020-11-17 16:26
wtf ence?
2020-11-17 16:46
what a shitshow this team has become, really sad to see.
2020-11-17 16:52
Good addition to the roster, but notez4ence
2020-11-17 17:08
#431
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Germany Nachofish
come to Jermany!
2020-11-17 17:11
Don’t die in war!!! What am I talking about your Finnish, you guy don’t fight.
2020-11-17 17:21
18 replies
expected from warmonger
2020-11-17 17:38
10 replies
expected from someone who lives in a country and has stayed neutral while everyone died around them.
2020-11-17 18:49
9 replies
hf dying, so brave
2020-11-17 19:00
and thats supposed to be bad or what? lol
2020-11-17 20:11
7 replies
yep it is bad. means they can watch people die around them and careless.. one cold ass country. but i guess when your the size of one of our cities what can you do right?
2020-11-17 20:54
6 replies
hahah funny coming from an amercian (biggest terrorist nation in human history)...but its ok, go die for your country so u can bring "fReEdOm" to others. brainwashed fool
2020-11-17 21:11
5 replies
haha got him ))
2020-11-18 04:39
bahahaha here is another sad part... if it wasnt for us terrorist people everyone here would be speaking german. let that sink in :) but hey good job hiding. its not hard when your entire country is not even a full tank of gas in a car :)
2020-11-18 08:43
3 replies
I think it would be fine if everyone here spoke German. Written German is easier to understand anyways
2020-11-18 14:03
2 replies
wow, you really are a piece of crap.. thats super sad.
2020-11-19 09:16
1 reply
I don't see how written German being easier to understand is sad in any way nor that everyone here would speak in German.
2020-11-19 12:29
Why would we need to fight? It's called defence forces for a reason. And yes even we have soldiers in Afghanistan for example.
2020-11-17 22:57
6 replies
your right my bad i forgot about the 20 guys you sent over
2020-11-18 08:44
5 replies
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countrie.. Acording to this list Finland has more men outside Finland than USA. Then again all men outside of Finland are peacekeepers.
2020-11-18 14:20
1 reply
what>?
2020-11-19 09:17
You mean around 500 as we speak? I'm actually pretty happy that there isn't more Finnish soldiers under risk of getting killed.
2020-11-18 17:11
2 replies
never heard of them enganging anything over there. i have loads of friends that are still and were over there. but hey right on. they should be there. everyone should have some people there. thats what happens when your an ally... plain and simple. you help not just take.
2020-11-19 09:18
1 reply
I wouldn't want that any of my friends were sent to Afghanistan or any other possibly hostile country. And I don't even know are USA and Finland any comparable in this conversation. Those Finnish soldiers are just there as peacekeepers.
2020-11-20 02:23
Called it. It's only a matter of time now before they disband. I mean I guess it was only a matter of time since Aleksib was kicked, in what will go down in history as the worst roster move in Finnish CS history. One of the worst roster moves in CS history, in fact.
2020-11-17 17:29
3 replies
I still believe if Aleksib wasn't kicked from Ence this team would have been the next Astralis but oh well making stupid decisions has consequences.
2020-11-17 17:35
2 replies
I don't know about next Astralis, but they could absolutely have been the best team in the world for at least some amount of time, and stuck around the top 5 for a long time.
2020-11-17 17:52
1 reply
yea thats what i really didn't get about that. they were top2 or top3 at the time they announced the bench. that did not make any sense. it was practically unheard of. if you got a t1 team which is ranked in the top10... dont fucking fix what ain't broke..
2020-11-17 18:39
LMAO ENCE JUST DISBAND
2020-11-17 17:42
Military in 2020 OMEGALUL
2020-11-17 17:50
3 replies
mandatory
2020-11-18 04:37
2 replies
yeah imagine how dumb the country must be, when being in military is a mandatory...
2020-11-18 08:16
1 reply
Yeah it's silly but i dont really mind it
2020-11-18 16:32
Unluko. Whole thing started with -aleksiB, still the worst roster move to this day.
2020-11-17 17:54
#448
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Finland Qurko
Can people stop crying about Jamppi ban now, this roster would never reach major anyways LUL. completely dead org, sad to see finnish CS go extinct again
2020-11-17 17:56
1 reply
2018-2019 rip finnish cs
2020-11-17 19:02
nooooooooo but the firepower
2020-11-17 18:07
zehn will join ENCE soon, mark my words
2020-11-17 18:19
2 replies
nah. that boat has sailed long ago. there's no future in ence.
2020-11-17 18:37
its possible if the zehn pay check is massive
2020-11-17 18:49
At least he gets to play CSGO irl :(
2020-11-17 18:25
1 reply
#466
jks | 
United States Fule
it isnt that bad
2020-11-17 18:59
fast 6 month spade in military and back to Ence ez top1
2020-11-17 18:32
Now ENCE can protect Finland from invading rus irl.
2020-11-17 18:33
This guy must be a superstar in Finnland, he wil work with his fans in army
2020-11-17 18:39
Now Ence is even more shit. I've been enjoying their attempts at success and seeing them crash and burn. Not even tier 4 cs anymore. How many days until Allu is gone. Shit team shit country
2020-11-17 18:56
The entire roster of ence that became good is gone. Ever since picking up sunny it has been nothing but bad choices
2020-11-17 19:10
ence completely dead
2020-11-17 19:12
blame allu for sure hes the reason why ence is shit allu just want to fragggggg
2020-11-17 19:27
military service kekw we all know it's that time of year for another wow expansion "lack of motivation"
2020-11-17 19:28
damn...
2020-11-17 19:37
Rip major finalist roster , only allu is left
2020-11-17 19:51
Was wondering when to swap flair to OG, seems like the perfect opportunity. Goodbye ENCE, we will remember you.
2020-11-17 19:54
I guess he's kicked by some snake. 1.09 rating for 0.96 LUL
2020-11-17 20:26
army? what a bad taste
2020-11-17 20:30
1 reply
mandatory
2020-11-18 04:36
he wants to play cs irl
2020-11-17 20:34
Imagine ence lost his 200 iq IGL , the most highest adr fragger in major (sergej beast) , the moral supports(aerial) and the outplayed sense movement (xseven)
2020-11-17 20:36
6 replies
allu's fault! allu is the only one left from winning Ence roster 2019.. allu should have been benched not aleksib. What should have been done in autumn 2019: -allu +ottond (if jamppi isnt not possible)
2020-11-17 20:58
5 replies
Allu "twofaced" Toiletto
2020-11-20 12:37
Lol no. Allu is still the most performing player from Finland. No doubt that those decisions were terrible but still allu is miles ahead of any finnish awper atleast.
2020-11-21 12:41
3 replies
awper has most kills in every team.. Rating is affected bý role
2020-11-21 14:01
1 reply
And where did i mention rating?
2020-11-21 20:38
What I have been wondering since Aleksib lefet ENCE, is that allu maybe the best AWP player in Finland, but does it cost the performance of the rest of the team if he gets what he wants? Maybe Aleksib had to go, because he was bossing allu around(which IGL should) and allu couldnt take that anymore?
2020-11-29 08:10
imagine leaving PRO CS (which pays better then almost every job in Finland) because 'you lost motivation'. Bruh look at sergej, if it isn't for PRO CS he is gonna starve, he can't do anything else beside play CS. There is no place for 'I am not motivated', I bet his parents were not motivated to go to work every single day for the past 18 years to feed him, but they did it anyway. (I can't wait for finnish diehard fans to respond to this comment trying to defend him and looking dumb.)
2020-11-17 20:44
1 reply
maybe he wants to work in a normal job and have a normal life? Not playing cs doesnt mean he is going to starve
2020-11-20 12:38
The whole aftermath of Aleksib's departure has finally unfolded in its entirety. All of that for a so-called "firepower" they didn't even get. Well deserved downfall that is.
2020-11-17 21:02
#503
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Sweden godname
Imagine retire when u are 18y
2020-11-17 21:20
1 reply
#515
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Finland 5way
can you read?
2020-11-17 23:01
#505
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Europe cNap__
Do you know what is sad to see, the best players and teams of 2019 cannot shine this year because of online shit. Show me the achievement of teams who is in the top 5 before 2020. There is two tier 2 teams, in the top 5 right now. Maybe you are gonna call me toxic but these teams have not done any shit on LAN. Sergej is one of the most talented young players on the scene and now he is benched. Hope there is not going to be a second Aleksib tragety. SO SADDD :(
2020-11-17 21:57
GG's
2020-11-18 00:40
#524
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Canada AyyyJayyy
New MIBR... MIFI... lol :(
2020-11-18 01:28
Jamppi got unbanned or what?
2020-11-18 03:19
Orginal lineup was so good. This is as sad as Paul Walker death.
2020-11-18 05:15
Huoltokomppania/vemppakomppania kutsuu.
2020-11-18 07:06
#540
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South Africa @FyreCS
So happy for Saddyxtron! Upcoming beast!
2020-11-18 07:11
that new guy looks hot ngl
2020-11-18 10:09
#547
B1T | 
Europe Gigska
Imagine military zywoo))
2020-11-18 10:15
sehr gay
2020-11-18 10:50
1 reply
Gut gesagt :D
2020-11-18 10:52
Aerial’s sick leave is just a scheme. Sergej plays in HAVU during his military service, like they have long vacations now because of corona. Aerial comes back to replace SADDYX who isn’t permanent. SADDYX might end up in HAVU aswell. Or return to SJ Gayming. And btw, zehN is not coming to ENCE because of natu nor will he go to HAVU because sLowi. Instead zehN will end up playing with Fallen ”Two-Faced” Toledo instead of allu ”Two-Faced” Toledo. After sergej is done with his service, either allu will go abroad and Jamppi made main AWP or then Aerial is sold to HAVU ENCE: allu suNny Jamppi doto SADDYX —> Aerial —> sergej HAVU: sLowi xseveN ZOREE sergej —> Aerial SADDYX/who ever/not zehN/maybe bottoNd if c0ntact disband
2020-11-18 10:50
Rip :(
2020-11-18 11:09
sergej gone --> ence dead
2020-11-18 15:27
1 reply
It´s been already dead past year mostly because of him, so I see his timeout as a positive thing.
2020-11-19 09:13
#570
wiz | 
United States Dugaid
Would have picked up jemi, could have been fun
2020-11-18 17:57
rip
2020-11-18 18:54
Secret finnish strategy, in the army they will teach him how to shoot.
2020-11-18 20:53
#585
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Latvia tibr0
lmao he wanted to shot in real life
2020-11-19 09:05
At least he didnt switch to valorant
2020-11-19 09:07
4 replies
I mean, he made an upgrade :D Switched to cs irl
2020-11-19 09:26
3 replies
Yeah I always thought he looked like the school-shooter kind of guy
2020-11-20 16:27
Pretending to be soldier by doing some nosense marches so you dont look "stupid" but actually makes you look like clown when moving with team doesnt sound upgrade to me
2020-11-22 13:25
1 reply
This is the most stupid shit I've ever read. Come to sweden and see what's going on over there bud, "some nonsense marches" aren't really the definition of military service bro.
2020-11-22 14:25
#594
RpK | 
Europe vg442
Sorry for the man
2020-11-19 12:54
lol rip ence
2020-11-19 13:24
Rip :(
2020-11-19 13:50
military-the best way to lose your game skills
2020-11-19 21:13
#599
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Serbia Liandry
rip
2020-11-20 02:24
Unluko :(
2020-11-20 08:57
He have a lot of money how fuck he goes to army?
2020-11-22 13:19
3 replies
u cant pay ur selft out of army in finland
2020-11-22 13:23
#618
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Finland Orchard
3. world logic.
2020-11-22 16:18
Corrupted ruski LUL
2020-11-22 20:44
He just wants to play CS in real life LUL
2020-11-22 20:43
#622
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Finland ginbay
Japahinpia ne a a aamut.
2020-11-23 10:09
rip ence just quit pls.
2020-11-24 14:25
After Alexsib leave the team, NO HOPE FOR ENCE
2020-11-26 07:38
#629
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Russia Syonamaru
- flamie + sergej ???
2020-11-26 14:39
I miss the old ez4ence team, xseven, aleksi, sergej.. thats not my ence anymore
2020-11-28 12:51
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