BLAST denied access to teams' voice and video recordings ahead of Fall Finals

Voice communications and screen recordings will not be shared with the tournament organizer without an agreement on how the information is handled.

The Counter-Strike Professional Players' Association (CSPPA) announced on Tuesday that the players competing in the BLAST Premier Fall 2020 Finals will not grant the tournament organiser permission to access voice communications and will not record their screen "without clear agreements" on how that information will be handled.

While it appreciates the need for measures that "safeguard the integrity of the game", the player association says that such recording could cause PC performance issues, "when there are other measures available that would not". It adds that players have no control over who accesses these files, which contain "sensitive tactical information and personal information", and that sections of these files have been broadcast "without prior knowledge of players".

Analysts having access to TeamSpeak led to information being passed on, players claim

The CSPPA states that it has repeatedly attempted to begin a dialogue with BLAST about the topic, but to no avail. Without a clear agreement, the players "do not trust BLAST with this information", the CSPPA said.

"The CSPPA has repeatedly tried to get BLAST to engage with the players regarding the use and storage of voice comms recordings and videos of players, pointing out that the measures that they have implemented are both harmful and illegal if they do not have clear agreements with players on how to store and use information including personal information," the association said. "BLAST have declined to discuss this with the players."

The start of the opening match of BLAST Premier Fall 2020 Finals, between Vitality and MOUZ, has been delayed as a result of the players' protest.

The announcement comes just days after the Esports Integrity Commission (ESIC), of which BLAST is a member, suggested that live video feeds of every team should be recorded and stored "for a minimum of 90 days" in case of tier-one tournaments. This is one of the esports watchdog group's recommendations to tackle the issue of stream-sniping, which became a "widespread" practice in the online era caused by the coronavirus pandemic.

#1
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Germany Germania
Interesting... > The CSPPA states that it has repeatedly attempted to approach BLAST about the topic, but to no avail. Therefore, players participating in BLAST Premier Fall 2020 Finals have decided to no longer allow BLAST to have access to voice comms during matches or record their screen, as they "do not trust BLAST with this information without clear agreements". Totally understandable tbh
2020-12-08 17:20
30 replies
nice edit
2020-12-08 17:21
#48
RpK | 
France pol44r
twitter.com/Noxville/status/133634218950.. plz guys dont be misinformed, be like mr germania and read or
2020-12-08 17:22
12 replies
+1 Blast real fishy that they want to collect all that shit. CSPPA is right.
2020-12-08 20:03
11 replies
#315
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Europe Tomgra
Bro, read the whole article. It's not theirs idea, it's ESIC which "suggested that live video feeds of every team should be recorded and stored "for a minimum of 90 days"".
2020-12-08 21:04
10 replies
Ok Ill do thanks.
2020-12-08 21:06
> esports watchdog group's recommendations to tackle the issue of stream-sniping Bruh talk about overkill doe. XD
2020-12-08 21:08
8 replies
#318
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Europe Tomgra
Yyy >Players Assosiation (CSPAA) talking about anything Shit org, which used confidential information against teams (like FPX) I hate them, they are just a cashgrab, demanding money from tournament organizers to then hurt them.
2020-12-08 21:15
2 replies
they havent demanded money from any TO, and I 100% agree with what they di here. If BLAST had a legally binding agreement so misuse of the recordings wouldnt happen, CSPPA wouldnt have done anything. Players were also protesting this, so it was the entire T1 scene and their union against BLAST. This wasnt just a CSPPA decision, atleast at surface level
2020-12-09 03:49
1 reply
#331
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Europe Tomgra
Well, Looks like you're wrong. Players don't support CSPAPA at all, they instead reached the compromise with Blast (without CSPPA). And yes, CSPPA wants a cut from each prize pool directly from TO, but then fights against both TO and the teams.
2020-12-09 21:19
#332
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Finland Jansk1h
How is it overkill, more like the bare minimum
2020-12-10 00:31
3 replies
Stream sniping in online isnt something you can prove very much anyway since its external. You can record karrigan taking a shit for all I care you wont catch any "streamsnipers".
2020-12-10 01:33
2 replies
#334
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Finland Jansk1h
But ESIC are using those vods to prove some teams were streamsniping by crossreferencing the stream with the vods and seeing if there are any suspicious calls.
2020-12-10 02:45
1 reply
>suspicious calls Yeah I understand you but you can't prove much with just suspicion. If they punish ppl it's with clear evidence like word.exe found on pc or like they could prove 100% that coaches abused specator exploit because what coach was doing was saved in the replay file.
2020-12-10 13:01
It tackles all kind of info hacks too.
2020-12-13 07:26
#83
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Brazil Xambi
z
2020-12-08 17:30
#94
tarik | 
Pakistan 2pacL
JUST START THE F**KING GAME!
2020-12-08 17:27
maybe not voice comms but whats the big deal with screen record afterall if they are not using wh all their stuff will be available in demo
2020-12-08 17:32
10 replies
Voice comms let you hear a strat screen record let's you see the setup for a strat i guess, don't want that information going to other teams or orgs
2020-12-08 17:38
9 replies
#187
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Bulgaria |mens|
but, we hear 10 secs of voice comms thta are mosty hyped reactions, not fucking setups, and you can download demos to review anyways sooooooo?
2020-12-08 17:53
5 replies
WE. But the production team who made that clip heard everything. Not to mention analystS. You've probably heard maniac say 'listening to vitality comms, they are more relaxed, focused' something alongside those lines.
2020-12-08 18:08
4 replies
#242
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Bulgaria |mens|
yes,but maniac doesnt charge teams to give them a recording of enemy comms last time i checked
2020-12-08 18:15
3 replies
and you know that because all that is usually done publicly in a loud manner?
2020-12-08 18:26
Maniac maybe not, we don't know. But can you say that about some guy, working behind the scenes making these clips? Reminded me of this. youtu.be/H7Onm48hFRE
2020-12-08 18:35
1 reply
thats a good point, i am pretty sure that you could easily make a ton of money off of those voice comms recording and stuff like that. There have to be clear terms of service to prevent passing on that information or at least to be able to punish that then illegal behaviour, the punishment wont just be like getting ur ass kicked by the organiser and losing ur job, it should be possible to handle it like data stealing, violating the terms of service or however it is called
2020-12-08 18:48
let me re-frame it, voice comm shouldn't be accessed by anyone and yeah maybe blast should givein to that but players should send their screen feed as the setup to a strat can literally be picked-up from demos/ demo file
2020-12-08 17:56
2 replies
You're not wrong and i think they are mainly arguing against the voice comms because of Cold's voice comms being leaked saying that Faze have no anti strats for dust 2 just before Map 3 Dust 2 against big, if big saw that then that's a huge advantage to them
2020-12-08 18:06
1 reply
if they are arguing against just voice comms then its cool since like you mentioned it can have so many important information that enemy teams can make use to make anti strats, fakes and vetos accordingly smh i guess the match will get cancelled onto champions league now :)
2020-12-08 18:17
#217
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China RADNIKEY
Deserved, let German company handle csgo events
2020-12-08 18:05
how is that understandble? blast is hosting the tournament they can do whatever they want with the players and teams that atteneded and agreed on attending bot j and mous just dont want their hacks to get exposed because info bot chris j, info hacking is the last useful thing he could do for his team before "retires"
2020-12-08 18:33
1 reply
#329
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France andyj
Or get this, we’ve seen 2 instances of BLAST leaking IGL’s calls > Aleksib mid-round > Coldzera before D2 vs BiG and the players realize that BLAST now want total access to their calls without any negotiation in place.
2020-12-09 17:04
bruh
2020-12-08 17:18
Players are right
2020-12-08 17:18
4 replies
#67
shox | 
France ZyGod
yes because Record send to others teams that why. And it is bad for strat if all can have with record voices
2020-12-08 17:25
I was really surprised a month ago when BLAST aired some team coms as part of their post match analysis. It was incredibly cool as a viewer to get that level of insider info but I also thought how much of an invasion that would be from the team's perspective. I noticed as the tournament progressed, they stopped airing the team coms in the analysis (except for cheers and stuff). Great for fans - probably not great for teams.
2020-12-08 18:33
1 reply
+1
2020-12-08 18:52
#320
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
+1
2020-12-08 23:19
lmao
2020-12-08 17:18
Fuck the csppa, don’t know what this is about but just wanted to say that
2020-12-08 17:19
9 replies
they support cheaters ESIC vs CSPPA ESIC : record audio and video CSPPA : use coaching bug and streamsnipe
2020-12-08 17:20
4 replies
It’s supposed to be a player union and they don’t even represent most of the players. They made an agreement with esl that would make EPL smaller without even discussing with the pros that would be kicked which resulted in the team being dropped from the org making them jobless! They where also supposed to make a ranking for flashpoint that no one used cuz it was that shit.
2020-12-08 17:23
3 replies
What happened with EPL situation?
2020-12-08 17:49
2 replies
They made The league smaller So some teams where kicked and then fired from the org cuz that’s the big thing for them. A fucking player association that causes someone to be fired which they are supposed to represent without even talking to them!!
2020-12-08 17:50
1 reply
sad, lets make every league 1000team so everyone can get a job as cs player.
2020-12-08 18:38
u're not smart ma friend. Teams comms are rly important in high level game, when you have no idea where the record gonna end up you don't agree, seems logic
2020-12-08 17:21
2 replies
Blast should have access to them in some capacity because what else do you get from players? They need to produce content too! But #66 I just think they should be disbanded and a new one should we make that represents the players and not only the top, n0thing is a board member and he isn’t even a pro anymore!
2020-12-08 17:25
1 reply
sure CSPPA isn't perfect, at all. but this is another debate
2020-12-08 17:27
#6
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Romania Anonym20
cheaters?
2020-12-08 17:19
1 reply
dumb?
2020-12-08 17:35
#8
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United States VoktoroXD
CSPPA LOOOL
2020-12-08 17:19
#9
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Nigeria STFU_M8
yeah but who cars? just go start match
2020-12-08 17:19
nice
2020-12-08 17:19
#11
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Europe headwick
ahaha by force
2020-12-08 17:19
very kool
2020-12-08 17:19
Players are right
2020-12-08 17:19
Akihabara Accept
2020-12-08 17:19
7 replies
#231
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Norway N3sHie1k
?? Reply needs to have actual content
2020-12-08 18:10
6 replies
?? Reply needs to have actual content
2020-12-08 18:23
5 replies
#267
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Norway N3sHie1k
why did you write it
2020-12-08 18:35
4 replies
why did YOUwrite it
2020-12-08 18:37
3 replies
#271
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Norway N3sHie1k
yeah, braindead spotted
2020-12-08 18:38
2 replies
where?
2020-12-08 18:40
1 reply
#274
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Norway N3sHie1k
hahaha
2020-12-08 18:40
I am not really sure what is going on but interesting indeed
2020-12-08 17:19
blast scum
2020-12-08 17:19
1 reply
how?
2020-12-08 17:22
csppa finally decides to do literally anything and they do it 5 minutes before the game starts very professional
2020-12-08 17:19
5 replies
>The CSPPA states that it has repeatedly attempted to approach BLAST about the topic, but to no avail If they try to reach out to BLAST and get no response refusing to play is the only thing they can do. If they just do whatever BLAST wants despite BLAST refusing to speak with them BLAST will just never speak with them lol You ever heard of a strike before?
2020-12-08 17:21
3 replies
I agree with how they are doing it, just not when. It is a valid for them to worry about who has access to the recordings but I feel like they should have made their stand public and not a few minutes before the match.
2020-12-08 17:26
1 reply
there is more pressure on blast this way
2020-12-08 17:33
+1
2020-12-08 20:14
You really don’t pay attention
2020-12-08 17:29
#19
Liazz | 
Yugoslavia embru
any examples of tournament organisers abusing this power?
2020-12-08 17:19
#20
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Spain Wiricardo
Lmao
2020-12-08 17:19
#21
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France AkiwiN
Thx CSPPA
2020-12-08 17:19
Rip Teamspeak compilation videos
2020-12-08 17:20
Exactly what a player's union is supposed to do and completely correct decision, and people said the union was worthless.
2020-12-08 17:20
3 replies
#113
RpK | 
France HippzZ
+1
2020-12-08 17:30
+1
2020-12-08 18:28
#322
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Brazil _Awper
First thing they done right.
2020-12-09 02:48
#26
NiKo | 
Ireland SuLLi^
FUCK BLAST
2020-12-08 17:20
ok edit: wat a joke
2020-12-08 17:23
stupid pussies
2020-12-08 17:20
players are right
2020-12-08 17:20
#30
RpK | 
Turkey MrAycan
start game
2020-12-08 17:20
zzzzzzzzzzz
2020-12-08 17:20
START THE GAME
2020-12-08 17:20
#35
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France MarcoXY
Blast stop troll pls
2020-12-08 17:20
blastrash
2020-12-08 17:20
#37
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Italy NotNew
teams whose only tactic is rush b are gonna be "Nooooooo our strats"
2020-12-08 17:21
#38
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Blast at fault here, just sign an agreement with players if you really want their voice comms that bad. Good job CSPPA
2020-12-08 17:21
"PC performance issues" KEKW
2020-12-08 17:21
1 reply
Hahaha
2020-12-08 18:23
#40
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxeh
GOOD JOB CSPPA!
2020-12-08 17:21
drama drama
2020-12-08 17:21
#46
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Namibia Nt_NoScene
vitality forever disqualify plz
2020-12-08 17:22
4 replies
#90
shox | 
France ZyGod
and you ban for life kid plz
2020-12-08 17:27
3 replies
you*
2020-12-08 17:28
#136
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Canada Minami
+1
2020-12-08 17:35
#170
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France Vipair
+1
2020-12-08 17:45
cheats on
2020-12-08 17:22
1 reply
#78
JACKZ | 
France Freaz
Get a brain soon my friend
2020-12-08 17:25
#49
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Slovakia Daev0n
Let's make a petition to hear BLAST's financial meetings. And use the data we gather however we want.
2020-12-08 17:22
4 replies
#89
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Nigeria coolathan
Just to make sure they're not committing tax fraud, then we can send the data to ESL or Dreamhack
2020-12-08 17:26
2 replies
#109
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Slovakia Daev0n
Nah, you could easily sell the data to ESL or FaceIt. Especially the data regarding sponsor deals and loopholes that they are using.
2020-12-08 17:29
+5000 equal rights baby
2020-12-08 20:18
+1 we can find out about their deals with arabs
2020-12-08 17:54
#52
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Estonia R3dFen
BLAST IS CANCELLED LMAO
2020-12-08 17:22
1 reply
Honestly I think Blast about to go bust. They handled this so poorly I cant see teams wanting to participate in their events again
2020-12-08 18:19
#54
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Germany Jonaah
Understable decision by the CSPPA. But i am really embarassed by Blast.
2020-12-08 17:22
start the bastard game
2020-12-08 17:22
#57
JACKZ | 
France Freaz
Blast stop fucking around you can't share teams coms with analyst without the consent of the teams
2020-12-08 17:22
I dont get it, what players are scared of....
2020-12-08 17:22
14 replies
#101
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Slovakia Daev0n
Let's record Real Madrid's strategy meetings and then share it with the world.
2020-12-08 17:28
12 replies
how is it related? Also, its about live games and not bootcamps? and isint all information u can see in team demos? Also my favorite strat is when Zywoo won round 1vs4 or 1vs5 or players got smoke kills.
2020-12-08 17:32
2 replies
#138
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Slovakia Daev0n
??? You are beyond saving. Also reply needs to have actual content.
2020-12-08 17:35
CSPPA haters really just wanna hate or something. If you don't get #101 we can't help ya.
2020-12-08 20:19
Right? i dont know what these kind of people has in their head instead of brain when they cant understand so simple thing as revealing personal info and strats are not right
2020-12-08 17:33
8 replies
#152
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Slovakia Daev0n
+1 even in companies the employees can't share everything they want. Valve employees can't just share Source engine code with their grandma so she can analyze it lmao.
2020-12-08 17:39
2 replies
yeah lets put microphone and gopro to Pepsi employees and then share it with coca cola
2020-12-08 17:41
1 reply
#190
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United States B_A_
Nah Pepsi sucks.. they need Coca Cola teamspeak
2020-12-08 17:55
simple example. What a different between formula1 radio translation live and cs go? i probably miss the point here. I imagine something like this youtube.com/watch?v=2ASwQNjubr4 , u hear some random information live for fun and thats it. And that kind of personal info u talking about? Again, i can be wrong, i just curious.
2020-12-08 17:50
4 replies
yes you are wrong,the problem is not with sharing some funny comms on youtube channel....but players found out that personal info from teamspeak or strategies were shared with analysts and other people....blast had recorded the whole teamspeak from beginning to end when they join,so they can hear all inportant info not just some random funny which are shared with us later
2020-12-08 17:55
3 replies
ok, just wait then. And if i good understand here is no "other people" its just analyst. And if analyst share information with some team, i hope we will know which one or how analyst handle that information and how its affect teams.
2020-12-08 18:09
2 replies
the official statement says “analysts and others”
2020-12-08 18:11
1 reply
ok, i hope they have some proof about "others" and who is the "others". If some one leak information to other teams, so yea, i wrong then and its unfair. Now only need wait for names.
2020-12-08 18:14
#141
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxeh
Same reason that any reasonable person doesn't want government or corporations or ISP's to know any of your information
2020-12-08 17:35
#59
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Slovakia DR_GON
Blast shit as always
2020-12-08 17:22
#60
NiKo | 
Ireland SuLLi^
lol, the game is canceled
2020-12-08 17:23
of course players don't want it. How else they would talk about throwing games
2020-12-08 17:23
4 replies
#192
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United States B_A_
Haha
2020-12-08 17:56
#230
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Serbia DjapeZ
+1
2020-12-08 18:10
+1
2020-12-08 18:47
;D Sure thing bro
2020-12-08 20:36
Lol.
2020-12-08 17:23
but why right before match?? i just want to watch cs :(
2020-12-08 17:23
#68
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Belarus jugadorJJ
excpected
2020-12-08 17:23
#69
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Ukraine futplxyer
Just shows teams cheat, the whole CSGO scene is full of cheaters if teams wont allow TOs likeBlast team speak communications. ESIC ban all the fuckers who stream sniped pls.
2020-12-08 17:23
10 replies
how did you reach to this conclusion is beyond my understanding
2020-12-08 17:34
8 replies
#146
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Ukraine futplxyer
why else are they withholding team speak from the TO?? Plus, we all know tech pauses were being used so teams could gain info about the other team... most teams have been doing this forever!
2020-12-08 17:37
7 replies
tech pauses are done when either the team is doing bad or the team is doing very well and needs to chill they are withholding their recordings to that it doesn't get uploaded on YouTube they they have been doing for months also you just said the entire scene is cheating re read your post again holy shit
2020-12-08 17:39
6 replies
#165
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Ukraine futplxyer
whole scene has been cheating, maybe not all teams but u get my point... this was discussed on hltv confirmed last night btw. ESIC not issued any penalties because of how widespread it was....
2020-12-08 17:42
5 replies
the whole scene is cheating? wow so you are telling me orgs like cloud9 liquid vitality navi og eg mousesports faze and every other big org have signed cheaters and the entire scene has been running like this ? plz get yourself checked I think its a serious issue
2020-12-08 17:47
4 replies
#196
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Ukraine futplxyer
cheating is still cheating at the end of the day and yes most of these teams have used a tech pause and most likely been given info about the opposition team live in a match.... SPUNJI summed it up perfectly, just because all teams are doing this, does not make it right, using the jumping of a cliff scenario...
2020-12-08 17:58
3 replies
I guess can't change your mind lol
2020-12-08 18:38
2 replies
#279
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Ukraine futplxyer
no racista
2020-12-08 18:41
Tbh, this is suspicious asf, and there are cheaters in any sport with a large prizepool, to think that there are no cheaters in the cs pro scene is retarded.
2020-12-09 09:47
Read #101 pls
2020-12-08 20:36
makes sense, if they could just have figured this out beforehand.
2020-12-08 17:23
Are we gonna get the game today?
2020-12-08 17:24
Players should be allowed to cheat without anyone being able to notice it... Like they use to.
2020-12-08 17:24
GIMME THIS GAME RIGHT NOW !!!!
2020-12-08 17:24
as always BLAST logistics SUCK D1CK_&_ASS!! karrigan do ur thing as a lawyer, hurry up!! we want to see some CS.
2020-12-08 17:24
I thought #Trashpoint is the biggest idiot association but it seems #blast take this trophy
2020-12-08 17:25
hahahahah ggs
2020-12-08 17:26
#91
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Brazil Johnatta
F
2020-12-08 17:27
#92
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Georgia Megobari
Who the fuck cares, just the fucking match
2020-12-08 17:27
#95
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Slovakia Adwarin
nice... and someone said blast would be good for hosting a major
2020-12-08 17:27
2 replies
#99
NiKo | 
Ireland SuLLi^
lmao
2020-12-08 17:28
1 reply
#96
NiKo | 
Ireland SuLLi^
WE WANT TO SEE THE FUCKING GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2020-12-08 17:27
#97
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Russia ADisAsstah
so nice that viewers the only people who make pros exist were unaware of the situation and now it's us who are hurt LUL why not make an announcement on sunday? the week before? before showdown? after fall series?
2020-12-08 17:28
1 reply
#235
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Denmark dyinbyran
Because they wanted to avoid this drama obviously and wanted to talk to blast beforehand but were ignored, its said somewhere at the beginning
2020-12-08 18:12
cool
2020-12-08 17:28
Retards
2020-12-08 17:28
#103
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Chile nachooww
who cars? give me olof news! i want olof news!
2020-12-08 17:28
Why did they go on strike 10 mins prior the start time of the game? Why didnt they announce their strike yesterday? Or when they were approached by Blast to register their comms?
2020-12-08 17:31
1 reply
i dont think that you understand the issue, because your reply has got nothing to do with it
2020-12-08 17:33
covid19 its a king xaxaxaxaxa
2020-12-08 17:29
#115
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Germany NitczkaCS
Totally understandable
2020-12-08 17:30
Flusha is the CEO of CSPPA, totally understandable.
2020-12-08 17:30
3 replies
god flusha, LIFTING the chains of oppression on enslaved gamers. no longer will stewie2k have to play a match at 10am ever again
2020-12-08 17:33
1 reply
also not allowing them to detect flusha.exe
2020-12-08 17:34
LMAO
2020-12-08 17:35
well, you (teams) should have clearly read about/ known what you were signing up for in the first place. Also, this entire protest stint could have been handled better imo, should have had it a week back or something..its not as if they realized only yesterday, causing delays in an entertainment industry is not a very wise thing to do, there would be no CSPPA without CS
2020-12-08 17:32
3 replies
Imagine being org who pays thousands to team for best results and someone leaks all voice comms to opponents teams. Players must have approval from orgs to boycot blast
2020-12-08 17:34
2 replies
I agree with your point and the fact that privacy is of utmost importance, but this is not the way it should have played out (imo)
2020-12-08 17:39
1 reply
Yeah but blast clearly didnt want to discuss this with players or orgs. So then there is a question how to do it
2020-12-08 17:42
just let them use their own teamspeak blast retards
2020-12-08 17:32
Because one of vitality players use hack so....
2020-12-08 17:32
1 reply
#129
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxeh
NIVERAE XPOSED!!!!!
2020-12-08 17:34
Eu paguei pra ver esse jogo!! Just staaatt!!!
2020-12-08 17:32
It's sad how the players gotta make a scene just to finally get the TOs attention
2020-12-08 17:33
Bad move, awfull way to handle it.. This will hurt the teams and the players and cs... More than it will hurt blast.
2020-12-08 17:33
nice hidden hacks.
2020-12-08 17:34
"The CSPPA has repeatedly tried to get BLAST to engage with the players on regarding the use and storage of voice comms recordings and videos of players, ..." good london
2020-12-08 17:34
Understandable but clearly they chose the wrong time to address this. This should have been sorted hours or even a couple of days ago. I will need Sharingan to see three screens at the same time - 1 work, 2nd football, 3rd CS
2020-12-08 17:35
Viewers -> tournament host -> players. Don`t want to play with this rules? just GTFO. scared for your strats? just bring brand new for every game.
2020-12-08 17:36
#144
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Peru ndrearg
:o
2020-12-08 17:36
#147
shox | 
France ZyGod
Post now because Blast ignore before that why in live it is hard to ignore :)
2020-12-08 17:39
#149
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Brazil hugoooo
They should disqualify both teams. If you signed a contract, be a man and deal with it.
2020-12-08 17:38
So basically blast want to take all info from all the teams and give to astralis so they can win some more.
2020-12-08 17:38
#153
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Australia zanics
whats that? blast JUST got some good karma for making a good tournament? and now they fuck it up instantly with this bullshit? nice
2020-12-08 17:39
Trying to cheat online xaxaxaxaxaxaxa
2020-12-08 17:39
Meh... I should sleep
2020-12-08 17:40
2 replies
Have a nice cow beef burger before you do
2020-12-08 17:44
1 reply
Not in mood now, Come back later dog.
2020-12-08 17:48
Blast, most entertaining but shitty behind the scenes: this and the saudi arabia thing
2020-12-08 17:41
People who are upset about a delayed game really need to get some perspective of things. If BLAST won't even discuss issues, these actions, putting economic pressure on TOs, is the only way forward, as it has always been for unions. You have to remember that a TO who handles the comms poorly could financially impact the players too. A deal is the only reasonable thing.
2020-12-08 17:41
CSPPA is corrupt as fuck this does sound good but I don't trust it
2020-12-08 17:41
There's been so much cheating lately that it's difficult to completely trust the players on this end. An agreement on how the information is handled would be beneficial.
2020-12-08 17:45
1 reply
+1
2020-12-08 17:51
The best way is everyone leave the stream
2020-12-08 17:45
Lets be honest, the strat of this game is not that complicated, they don't even need your voice info, just look at how you played after the game and they will know it. Stop making a big deal about your strat.
2020-12-08 17:48
gimme back my money ffs
2020-12-08 17:49
How on earth this dispute is not resolved by the time the tournament started? They had the whole day yesterday to sort this out. This is ridiculous.
2020-12-08 17:49
Fuck you blast
2020-12-08 17:50
1 reply
+1
2020-12-08 17:53
#182
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Russia mshkoda
I justed wanted to watch cs this evening =\ In fact players have the right on a piece of privacy
2020-12-08 17:51
3 replies
nope not when they are on the server for a tournament. Otherwise stay home and be jobless if you don't want that.
2020-12-08 18:02
2 replies
No players = no tournament.. Blast organizers are going to be the ones that are jobless while these teams play in tournaments that have their shit together
2020-12-08 18:09
1 reply
you will find tier 2/3 teams who would agree and if you do it long enough tier1 players are jobless. No tournaments-> no sponsor money -> no teams.
2020-12-08 18:24
PLayers are right, this is joke totake their team speak
2020-12-08 17:55
1 reply
but agreed to it 2 years ago until today...
2020-12-08 18:25
ASTRALIS PUNCHING THE AIR RN.
2020-12-08 17:56
4 replies
hahahahhah +10 for being retarded if you think australis isnt clean
2020-12-08 18:03
3 replies
Everything checks out. Australis fEn
2020-12-08 18:05
2 replies
KEKWWWWW OLDEST AUSTRALIA FAN out here.. Got my previous 2 acccount banned because of brazilians.
2020-12-08 18:08
1 reply
Cry harder.
2020-12-08 18:59
CSPPA more useless than me lmao
2020-12-08 17:57
I don't think ingame teamspeak recordings are players private property or something. You enter the tournament - you obey the rules.
2020-12-08 17:58
1 reply
Then how will they cheat or fix matches.. Try to understand that. MAfia needs to earn
2020-12-08 18:02
sensitive tactical information LOOOL retarded game/organizer, like we cant see whats haappening in the match with pov on
2020-12-08 18:00
expected from cheater scene. Only S1mple is clean S1mple GOAT all other plz delete Counterstrike goat Cheater scene
2020-12-08 18:01
LUL
2020-12-08 18:01
F*ck blast. Let the teams play and stop trying to get their TS recordings, jesus.
2020-12-08 18:02
9 replies
TS recording is evidence for cheating etc. So for the integrity of the game... the players admit they cheat all the time.
2020-12-08 18:03
8 replies
"TS recording is evidence for cheating etc." No? lol. They can see it on the players screens. BLAST clearly want the TS recordings because of their shitty youtube videos with player comms. Example: youtube.com/watch?v=hFW5mml3xmI
2020-12-08 18:05
5 replies
ESIC says it should be recorded and in case of hard legion as an example, you didn't saw the coach was cheating and you had no evidence at all if the players knew it or not. Blast wanted the recording here cuz ESIC said it should be done. BLAST works for the integrity of the game meanwhile cheating players cry.
2020-12-08 18:29
4 replies
Yes, sure, it could be recorded. But, like i showed in my example above (#215) they most likely will do some sort of video(s) about comms, and i guess the pros do not want that. If the recordings are kept within BLAST-ESIC-Players then sure, but, i dont think thats the case tbh.
2020-12-08 18:32
3 replies
CSPAA didn't ask to stop marketing stuff they asked who has direct access to the whole recording. This is clearly two different things. Cuz the short TS clips don't include high strats only funny moments.
2020-12-08 18:33
2 replies
"they asked who has direct access to the whole recording." Yes ik, and they will most likely release all or parts of the comms to the public on Youtube or live on the stream etc. But, obviously the players and coaches clearly dont want their voices recorded and stored so someone can access it and hear strats and whatever. I agree with the players tbh. Tbh just put some admin in the discord/TS with the players and coach, problem solved. EDIT: And obviously if the team speaks Russian, you get a Russian admin etc etc.
2020-12-08 18:38
1 reply
And I obv don't agree with the players. If it was a part of the whole BLASt tournament, then the players should decide to play under those circumstances or not but don't waste the time of the counterstrike fans. I would assume that some teams have no real issue with that. Especially CIS teams give normally a fuck about such stuff.
2020-12-08 18:42
looks like players are okay with recording but they want some agreement how those recordings will be stored or shared....they dont want that some analyst just walk into the room and can download it
2020-12-08 18:05
1 reply
they aren't okay with recording. Cuz they didn't make a statement. "We agree to it if this and this specific happen" they just said "blast make us an offer and we say no"
2020-12-08 18:27
#205
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Sweden Snuddaz
If you dont think CSPPA is a fkn joke then you are brain dead
2020-12-08 18:02
#206
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United States B_A_
Just another example of why 2020 sucks
2020-12-08 18:02
for a few minutes now instead of downtime they are showing an all out clip of team recordings to rub it in KEKW
2020-12-08 18:04
I understand why low tier matchfixing teams dont want to share their audio but pro teams dont want to share info to make good content for viewers is bullshit.
2020-12-08 18:04
1 reply
But they matchfixing too like low tier lmao
2020-12-08 18:52
Asstralis and Blast exposed once again
2020-12-08 18:06
1 reply
#238
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Denmark dyinbyran
Ofc s1mple fangirl 0 iq lol xyp is a member of the csppa dumbass lol so he exposed his own team somehow?
2020-12-08 18:13
Are you fucking kidding me?play slaves!!!
2020-12-08 18:07
remember when blast lowered the numbers for the players prize pool and increased the ammount paid fot the partnered teams? that's it. this is juts the players retaliating. TO's are saints? Hell no, but this gang they call CSPPA its no better. at all.
2020-12-08 18:07
RIP Blast.
2020-12-08 18:07
#226
REZ | 
Sweden Goudi
someone is guilty haha
2020-12-08 18:08
GAME IS CANCELLED!!!!!!!!!!!!
2020-12-08 18:08
So this is why Vitality vs Mousesports is not starting
2020-12-08 18:11
just start the fcking game
2020-12-08 18:13
#239
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Russia razorVJ
Yeah let's fucking watch some surfing and chicken.
2020-12-08 18:14
1 reply
#241
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Slovakia Daev0n
That's what I came to the stream for. Shame that I couldn't bet on that instead of the match. I would have the result already
2020-12-08 18:15
#243
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Norway fuxzer
These pro players are a bunch of idiots. They literally join a discord with webcam and sound and they are suprised that it’s being used in the broadcast? They are living the dream but still complining, fuck off every pro player at blast
2020-12-08 18:16
see everyone knows some weird shit happening between T1 events and teams3 .. n1 matchfixing mafia
2020-12-08 18:16
Xdddd
2020-12-08 18:16
nt cheaters
2020-12-08 18:19
START THE GAME!
2020-12-08 18:21
Kick out of tournament and it's all GG BB
2020-12-08 18:22
CSPPA is the biggest joke in the CS world.
2020-12-08 18:29
pp
2020-12-08 18:29
blast selling voicecomms to highes bidder LMAO
2020-12-08 18:31
Blast bad csppa bad
2020-12-08 18:40
wts astralis strats 100k
2020-12-08 18:41
1 reply
rupiah?
2020-12-08 20:01
Its not like every team doesn't play every map the exact same way anyway...theres really no strats to steal. Theres nothing new happening during games. It's always the same smokes, same flashes...
2020-12-08 18:46
#288
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Japan Inlivino
get exposed
2020-12-08 18:53
Isn't this kind of issue was supposed to be solved when teams FIRST sign the contract with BLAST? Their legal team must informed them surely, that BLAST want to record and make content from their voice coms. And if players or coaches have a problem with it, they simply told their legal team "hey, we're not sure about this voice coms thing, could you make sure it isn't violate or misuse by BLAST?" "CSSPA tried to contact BLAST but they didn't respond..." yeah no shit sherlock! CSSPA tried to change signed contract, they didn't have the power to do that. If say, their team lawyer that contact them, I bet BLAST will respond to their inquiry immediately. Why CSSPA even involved? Isn't your own teams supposed to be the one that solved this kind of issue? Doing this via CSSPA imply that your team and their legal team is fucked up.
2020-12-08 18:54
1 reply
Yeah this is basically what a contract is for right? Lol But I do think it’s more of a data security issue, I work with sensitive data and it’s kinda a new thing people are dealing with in legal world I think that the team is probably cool with recording, but the storage of that data is the issue here. Blast probably fucked up and now teams want legal protections for the future Which blast probably isn’t legally required to give over. So now it’s a stand-off that’s losing a bunch of people money so I am sure someone’s having an absolute shit day over this
2020-12-08 18:58
BOYCOTT BLAST: According to the press statement by CSPPA : they have been actively trying to have a conversation with BLAST prior to today and they are declining to discuss. IF you read the press statement by CSPPA you would understand why they are not playing. Without a press statement from BLAST except "waiting for players to join teamspeak" on video stream - it leaves viewers frustrated (as well as players). Nobody wins here. We should , and I know you guys will not, boycott blast. If you wish to watch the matches - watch a 3rd party youtuber that has edited the footage after the match is done. Give a small youtuber your views instead of BLAST. VLADOPARD or MATZ CSGO CHANNEL gives 20-35min BO3s and 50+ min BO5s usually frags/plants/defuses/big plays. Like an in-depth highlight reel - feels like you watched the entire match. You guys probably know that already though. Again - doubt anybody does this... but in these situations you have to ask yourself what YOU have the power to do/to make a difference.
2020-12-08 18:57
7 replies
stfu snowflake, they already came to an agreement
2020-12-08 19:01
6 replies
snowflake? haha OK lesser
2020-12-08 19:02
5 replies
ok woke boy
2020-12-08 19:09
4 replies
ok lesser you must not read you poor baby probably wearing velcro fuckin shoes type of guy
2020-12-08 19:11
3 replies
you seem the soy boy type who gets bullied in the school yard and needs to feel relevant on the inet.
2020-12-08 19:16
2 replies
you think I am a kid LOL waste of time talking to you little boy "gets bullied at school" hahahahahahahahahaha fucking rich and I am from TX - not a fuckin soy boy - I eat steaks bigger than your little head that is for sure get a hobby - maybe pick up reading you fucking dunce peace bitch - done here put a fork in this kid
2020-12-08 19:22
1 reply
It’s literraly in your name boy. When I created this account you were 2 years old lmao
2020-12-08 19:24
great now they can cheat without getting cought - just great.
2020-12-08 19:00
2 replies
Expected from rfrsh shill
2020-12-08 21:48
1 reply
#327
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Turkey erturkgg
im sad for rfrsh
2020-12-09 07:47
So it’s a rigged shit
2020-12-08 19:33
So perfect for cheating? 😂😂
2020-12-08 19:47
Pretty understandable if I'm honest, I hope that they will get some kind of compromise tho.
2020-12-08 20:11
#312
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Hungary jofpet
On one hand they are right to protect their strats and thoughts, but on the other hand crying about the technical side is complete bs. It's super easy to record a screen with an external recorder (also sound) without any effects on the pc/gameplay.
2020-12-08 20:33
#321
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Croatia de_usvult
Hahahaha, and then they claim pros don't cheat. Sure bro..
2020-12-09 01:23
Blast: Why don't the players trust us? Also Blast: clips.twitch.tv/WrongTardyPonyMau5
2020-12-09 03:59
It seems pretty clear that our "renowned analysts" are leaking comms to their friends in the scene, lots of guys who played together not long ago.
2020-12-09 04:21
Players are right, it's not correct for BLAST to just assume they can vacuum up all of that senstitive information without consequence. Very clear accountability needs to be established.
2020-12-09 05:05
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