allu on Aleksib's kick: "We removed the wrong player"

The 28-year-old AWPer talked about the roster changes in the team and whether he was behind the moves in the latest episode of 'HLTV Confirmed'.

ENCE have been a far cry from the team that spent several months inside the top 5 in the world rankings in 2019. As the year is drawing to a close, they lie outside the top 30 and have lost their last ten matches in all competitions.

Aleksi "⁠allu⁠" Jalli appeared on Monday as a guest in the 'HLTV Confirmed' podcast and discussed ENCE's struggles since replacing Aleksi "⁠Aleksib⁠" Virolainen with Miikka "⁠suNny⁠" Kemppi in August 2019, only five months after their Cinderella run at the IEM Katowice Major.

“Inside the team, the feeling was that there needed to be some sort of change,” allu said. “Now, looking back from there, that point when we removed Aleksib to here, we can say that we removed the wrong player."

allu recognized that maybe the team didn’t appreciate enough what Aleksib brought to the table, inside or outside the game. The 23-year-old, who was benched right after the StarLadder Major, has been able to find success with OG, who have been inside the top 10 in the rankings for the last two months.

The Finnish team barely had time to practice after picking up suNny and struggled for form at their next three events, BLAST Pro Series Moscow, ESL One New York, and DreamHack Masters Malmö. allu says that the lacklustre results "kind of poisoned" the team as they took a toll on the players.

ENCE bounced back with a second-place finish at the CS:GO Asia Championship — which remains their best result since Aleksib's removal —, but, according to allu, things took a turn for the worse at the start of 2020. ENCE signed Elias "⁠Jamppi⁠" Olkkonen, Finland's rising talent, in April to replace Sami "⁠xseveN⁠" Laasanen, who was kept on the roster as he filled in for the youngster in Regional Major Ranking (RMR) tournaments.

ENCE, however, didn’t keep the six-man roster for long, and xseveN signed with HAVU in August. The idea of an expanded roster wasn’t as popular an option as it is now, but seeing how Vitality have enjoyed success with Nabil "⁠Nivera⁠" Benrlitom, allu believes they could have made it work with a six-man lineup.

The last months haven’t been easy for ENCE, who saw two important players leave. First, it was Jani "⁠Aerial⁠" Jussila, who stepped down in October due to medical reasons. In November, ENCE took another huge blow as Jere "⁠sergej⁠" Salo left the team due to motivation issues and to serve the Finnish army in 2021. “He’s genuinely excited about going to the army,” allu said.

With sergej gone, allu is the only player remaining from the lineup that made it to the grand final of the IEM Katowice Major. Part of the CS:GO community believes that the 28-year-old has been the one pulling all the strings on ENCE.

“I was also part of it of course, but it wasn’t only me obviously,” allu said. "I’m not a dictator who decides everything and how everything needs to go."

While the show was still running, sergej tweeted that allu's comments should not be accepted as evidence, adding that there's a reason why the veteran is the only player left from the original roster formed in April 2018.

“I wouldn't take everything that allu said or says as granted," sergej wrote. "His personality isn't as simple or harmless as it might seem. I'm not going to open up more about this situation because it's a mental health thing and that is not for me or Twitter to handle. Old teammates can back up my tweet, though. I just wanted to let this out because no one else has done it or could do it."

suNny and xseveN have since retweeted sergej, with the first saying that allu told the truth "but not the whole truth".

You can access the full VOD of today's episode of HLTV Confirmed below.

Finland Elias 'Jamppi' Olkkonen
Elias 'Jamppi' Olkkonen
Age:
19
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.12
Maps played:
503
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.66
Finland Miikka 'suNny' Kemppi
Miikka 'suNny' Kemppi
Age:
26
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1189
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.69
Finland Jere 'sergej' Salo
Jere 'sergej' Salo
Age:
19
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
673
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.64
Finland Jani 'Aerial' Jussila
Jani 'Aerial' Jussila
Age:
27
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
672
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.67
Finland Sami 'xseveN' Laasanen
Sami 'xseveN' Laasanen
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
1004
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.67
Finland Aleksi 'allu' Jalli
Aleksi 'allu' Jalli
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
1539
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.64
Belgium Nabil 'Nivera' Benrlitom
Nabil 'Nivera' Benrlitom
Age:
19
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.13
Maps played:
175
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.62
Finland Aleksi 'Aleksib' Virolainen
Aleksi 'Aleksib' Virolainen
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
826
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.66
Allu is so bad tbh
2020-12-15 00:30
63 replies
#9
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Portugal S4muca
God allu
2020-12-15 00:31
51 replies
Aleksib is the most overrated igl
2020-12-15 00:32
48 replies
#21
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Finland Kunumesh
no u
2020-12-15 00:33
15 replies
1 year to realize they removed the wrong player. OMEGALUL
2020-12-15 03:05
14 replies
tell this to Nikola "Niko" Kovac
2020-12-15 06:19
6 replies
#177
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Belgium bblbsc
+1
2020-12-15 07:35
5 replies
This is my speculation about things. The problems ence is having right now roots to current leadership and allu. In previous teams allu was know to be "hard to deal with player", but current management enables allu to get away with bullying teammates. Allus unequal (compared to other non-owner players) place in the team enables him to act like his acting. A narcissist. This isn't going to chance, unless current management can see things in like they should. Ence is business, not just couple of friends having fun. Now all they are doing is ruining young players morale, motivation and basically lives. Correct me if I am wrong.
2020-12-15 08:47
4 replies
I allu a part owner in Ence? If so, that would go a long way to explaining why he would still be there and no one else. He's probably not going to fire himself.
2020-12-15 18:09
#307
sLowi | 
Finland Ztla
Which previous teams exactly? I assume older finnish ones because we have the likes of NiKo on record saying that allu was vital for keeping the atmosphere positive in faze. Or are you just salty and spouting nonesense since your account was created today?
2020-12-15 18:27
2 replies
Not being salty. Just speculating.
2020-12-15 18:36
1 reply
Foreign players have actually said that allu has been one of the funniest and best guys they've played with.
2020-12-17 12:56
And they still call it "we removed the wrong player" instead of "we removed IGL".
2020-12-15 08:53
6 replies
#238
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Bulgaria |mens|
hahahh +1 imagine removing fucking IGL and then thinking : WhAt? We ArE sHiT nOw??!!!!!!!!!
2020-12-15 11:13
3 replies
+1 lol
2020-12-15 12:05
+1
2020-12-15 12:59
#320
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Israel xazetti
+1 lmao
2020-12-15 23:14
#253
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Portugal antCB
it's actually both. they removed their IGL and the wrong players. 2 wrongs don't make a right. should've been bot.allu hitting the bench.
2020-12-15 12:45
"they" = allu Allu kicked Aleksib by himself. Anything else he says is a big lie.
2020-12-17 10:35
******* noob alert ******** its obvious you know little to csgo.. kick back and learn something before commenting
2020-12-15 00:36
16 replies
who the fk are you to undermine someone else's opinion? stfu, u fan of an overrated T2 now Valorant player
2020-12-15 01:07
14 replies
hahahahah looks like noobs stick together here.. let me guess your the genius? and you talk of flair lol and your repping friberg
2020-12-15 01:21
13 replies
Leave the goat out of this please. Thanks.
2020-12-15 03:05
This newfag is trashtalking one of the greatest players of all time. Sad...
2020-12-15 03:13
4 replies
he once was a great player, now the truth is hes not. still love the guy been watching him for a decade
2020-12-15 03:19
3 replies
but the truth is swag is not even playing csgo so gtfo
2020-12-16 11:30
2 replies
lol duh hes not.. lol ive been a fan of his for ever. i dont switch flair up
2020-12-18 22:46
1 reply
what a bum haha you care to talk about friberg and go support swag who is not even playing been a fan of his forever.
2020-12-19 01:23
You're*
2020-12-15 03:30
you have a flair of a matchfixer wtf
2020-12-15 03:35
Why fakeflag?
2020-12-15 06:17
I think now would be the time to write: friberg 1 major - swag 0 majors
2020-12-15 09:13
2 replies
: D friberg 0 matchfix permaban - swag 1 matchfix permaban
2020-12-15 09:28
1 reply
KEK comping T1 legend to T4 matchfix kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2020-12-15 10:22
see that nobody likes you here? just leave
2020-12-15 20:28
Lol ok s1
2020-12-16 14:09
This is not twitch chat 0/8 baits not allowed
2020-12-15 00:47
1 reply
Username checks out.
2020-12-15 09:29
he's really not, it's not any igl who can reach the finals of a major, comeback 9-15, beat the 2nd and 3rd best team. His brilliance also beat the Astralis streak on nuke, and don't say it was a fluke, watch Elmapuddy's video, just watch videos of analysts and coaches breaking him down instead of you just going off by results. I'm not a aleksib fanboy, I'm just giving him some respect which you should too.
2020-12-15 00:47
6 replies
I agree man. Not every igl can do the same. From bottom to top in such a short time. Respect to aleksib.
2020-12-15 01:05
#72
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Spain Yourgudigl
Well said brudda
2020-12-15 01:05
#181
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Finland Veeti777
+1 And now aleksib made og top10 team with mediocre players.
2020-12-15 07:41
1 reply
#264
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Spain N0Love
- ISSAA ffs
2020-12-15 13:24
#321
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Israel xazetti
+1 it surprises me how these people don't even look at the rankings before commenting. Aleksi carried ence to almost winning a major and now he's doing the same thing with OG, as evident by the current rankings. one of the best IGLs in the scene rn.
2020-12-15 23:17
#340
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Portugal antCB
mentally challenged retards on the scene always look for KDR 1st. except that on their major run, ALL OF THEM had like 1.00 - 1.20 hltv rating. which was "odd" as it was probably the 1st time anyone saw a team where everyone was pulling the weight.
2020-12-16 10:53
#97
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Argentina macrigato
Rekted
2020-12-15 01:22
hi allu. Nice try
2020-12-15 06:57
you mean underrated
2020-12-15 09:21
+1
2020-12-15 14:45
#290
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Poland f0v
no ur just stupid
2020-12-15 15:58
+1
2020-12-16 03:32
Bot Allu
2020-12-15 07:55
only in his dreams
2020-12-15 12:53
I dont get why people want to "make moves" in order to feel in charge. Its a good thing we dont have many dictators in the world. Even the most tame people given the chance, starts abusing their power and what is even more pathetic they want to use it to the maximum extent without thinking if it does any good to himself, let alone anyone else.
2020-12-15 01:24
allu said. "I’m not a dictator who decides everything and how everything needs to go." LOL
2020-12-15 01:49
THEY SHOULD HAVE KICKED HIMSEFT slow react allu lmao
2020-12-15 01:51
Actually he is The best cs:go player from Finland
2020-12-15 03:03
Allu is basically NiKo, shitty decisions out of the game doesnt make you bad in the game
2020-12-15 03:58
3 replies
+1
2020-12-15 07:56
#254
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Portugal antCB
except he's not even as good as niko. lmao
2020-12-15 12:46
+1
2020-12-15 14:40
Only a genius can come up with the strategy going A benching AleksiB so respect him wtf
2020-12-15 07:37
respect alpha allu
2020-12-15 08:15
+1
2020-12-15 16:45
allu allu allu....liar?
2020-12-15 00:31
1 reply
Biskela worldclass igl
2020-12-15 20:41
#3
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United States Cesperus
No sh*t
2020-12-15 00:30
4 replies
#23
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Spain N0Love
It only took a year and a half to admit it
2020-12-15 00:33
2 replies
+1 year and a half to swallow his pride and admit he made a mistake
2020-12-15 07:22
it only took him a pandemic and 2 lockdowns
2020-12-15 11:07
#151
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Australia CaZeR01
+1
2020-12-15 04:52
#4
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North America pkheat
bruh moment
2020-12-15 00:30
lol
2020-12-15 00:30
leobiazzi who?
2020-12-15 00:30
2 replies
#27
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Brazil NegoNey
my father
2020-12-15 00:35
first seeing him too great read nonetheless nice work
2020-12-15 08:15
#7
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France FanchD
No shit Sherlock
2020-12-15 00:31
wait really?
2020-12-15 00:31
#10
tudsoN | 
Poland Szcz
One of the CS saddest stories
2020-12-15 00:32
11 replies
+1
2020-12-15 01:11
Troubley story is sadder
2020-12-15 09:26
9 replies
#211
perk  | 
Finland eIe
Key words: one of the
2020-12-15 09:47
#218
Rob4 | 
Serbia e_loK
Who?
2020-12-15 10:00
6 replies
youtube.com/watch?v=G-fTFIUSn-I Skilled Jerman player, couldn't stay in a team for longer than 2 months. Had obvious mental issues, was stalking tiziaN, took a cab to his house to profess his love (cost hundreds of euros), ended up homeless (allegedly!) somewhere in Denmark.
2020-12-15 10:05
4 replies
#242
Rob4 | 
Serbia e_loK
What?! I was not expecting that... Holy shit I hope he is doing better now. In some mental institution, or at least getting help
2020-12-15 11:39
1 reply
He sold Doner Kebabs on Nuke, he's rich and doesn't need your pity.
2020-12-15 21:43
#255
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Portugal antCB
"Had obvious mental issues, was stalking tiziaN, took a cab to his house to profess his love (cost hundreds of euros), ended up homeless (allegedly!) somewhere in Denmark." shit. I now feel bad for having making fun of him and comparing him to Peter Griffin from FG. oopsie. edit: context hltv.org/forums/threads/464935/peter-gri.. . fun times tho when there was no money in the scene and basically no drama.
2020-12-15 12:52
1 reply
+1 fun came from the game itself not big prize moneys
2020-12-16 11:32
He was aim wise the best German player even better as tabsen in his individual prime. From talent he could be a top 20 candidate.
2020-12-15 11:58
true
2020-12-15 12:22
Idiot
2020-12-15 00:31
#12
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Serbia Jnordz
REKT
2020-12-15 00:31
lmao
2020-12-15 00:32
Kick IGL and drop out of Top 30. Who would have expected lmao
2020-12-15 00:32
4 replies
#103
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Romania SanitySP
Niko wouldn't
2020-12-15 01:44
3 replies
Ofcourse. That's why he talked to allu about adding aleksib to faze. And dropped the idea because allu said he wasn't that good.
2020-12-15 05:42
2 replies
It is niko fail not allus in this case.
2020-12-15 09:27
1 reply
#322
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Israel xazetti
both of them in the wrong here. Allu shittalking the guy who carried ence into top5 and NiKo for listening to allu
2020-12-15 23:22
#16
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Palestine MrZoldiK
Lmao
2020-12-15 00:32
#17
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Aleksi "Two Faced" Jalli singlehandedly destroyed whatever chance Finnish CS scene had at dominating the whole.
2020-12-15 00:32
12 replies
#66
jemi | 
Finland FISHEY
+1
2020-12-15 00:54
+1 bad move from the finnish brazilian Aleksi "Two Faced" Toledo
2020-12-15 01:10
1 reply
#287
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United States Nvucovich
+1
2020-12-15 15:21
he is the reason they earned success in the first place leaving international teams to join ence back again
2020-12-15 02:44
6 replies
he didnt have much of a choice, by that point in his career not many teams wanted him
2020-12-15 04:20
5 replies
#235
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Finland eXampL
not to mention contract with nip ended and he had nowhere to go because of that reason
2020-12-15 10:59
4 replies
Wasn't it after his Faze-era that he joined up with ENCE again and made this roster?
2020-12-15 11:15
3 replies
no, after faze he hoped around lower tier teams like optic with friberg, and eventually no team wanted him so he rejoined ence back in his homeland
2020-12-15 18:55
1 reply
Ah yeah. True.
2020-12-16 13:34
#316
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Finland skaril
It was both, he was in Ence in 2016 IIRC and then again after he was dropped from faze and short period with optic
2020-12-15 22:22
So sad man... And now he even trys to blame the others... Just wow.
2020-12-15 17:59
#323
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Israel xazetti
+1 shame, they were so close
2020-12-15 23:25
#18
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Ukraine zont1x
missclick
2020-12-15 00:32
3 replies
misskick
2020-12-15 00:34
#57
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Mongolia k0ng0
F1 i need pause to go to toilet.
2020-12-15 00:48
#313
keeN | 
Kazakhstan Dosss
F, now it will never be ez for enceenceence
2020-12-15 20:58
#19
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Finland Faust_fSt
Took quite a while to fashion out which take would be the clickbaitest of headlines
2020-12-15 00:32
1 reply
xaxaxa thought the same
2020-12-15 08:17
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
2020-12-15 00:32
missclick lmao
2020-12-15 00:33
Too late LOL
2020-12-15 00:34
#26
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Europe Holiwis
lmao
2020-12-15 00:35
Nothing new here, allu's ego the problem. I don't blame players for leaving, seems like a toxic environment to be in atm. Would have been even more interesting with sergej in the show, allu is just adding some pokerface on atm not fully admitting he's been the main problem of ENCE even if his invidual skill is high, kind of like NiKo later on for FaZe, it just won't work. allu should just leave ENCE and go for some international lineup where he takes on star awp role only and don't focus on much else. Will be win-win for everyone. North or Mousesports even (-ChrisJ).
2020-12-15 00:48
27 replies
Yes! -Chrisj +Allu
2020-12-15 05:48
23 replies
wld be descent christJ with ence can work just as good
2020-12-15 08:17
11 replies
"christJ with ence can work just as good" On their way to rank 50, yeah.
2020-12-15 09:50
10 replies
would rek endpoint on their worst day but thats not the point the point was soething you didnt get and wont get fir perhaps next ten years till you reah 18
2020-12-15 09:52
3 replies
I don't understand why you got insulted by my comment unless you are a fan of ChrisJ, but whatever.
2020-12-15 09:54
This isnt even a real sentence
2020-12-15 22:35
#324
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Israel xazetti
imagine malding so hard that you forget how to type
2020-12-15 23:27
#325
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Israel xazetti
ChrisJ is a good player, hes just not playing comfy spots on mouz. Ence will have no players with an experience like ChrisJ has if they switch allu with him, so he can take veteran role, give him some noname talent to work with and a good igl and itll be a top15 team EZ
2020-12-15 23:29
5 replies
What do you mean "not playing comfy spots" he is the Awper he plays AWP related spots specifically. I could understand if he was a rifler but he is not. And even with non comfy spots his results are showing an underperformance for an extremely long time.
2020-12-16 07:58
4 replies
#348
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Israel xazetti
He's not an awper tho. He's not comfy with the AWP playstyle, you can see it compared to how he was when he was rifling. ChrisJ is a good rifler, and the AWP playstyle doesn't fit him at all.
2020-12-16 13:01
3 replies
I think you are wrong and his role is a main AWPer. mousesports.com/game/csgo/player/chrisj And it is something that is publicly known unless you have other sources.
2020-12-16 14:13
2 replies
#360
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Israel xazetti
Yea but i suspect he has taken this role literally just cause they don't have a dedicated awper. back when woxic was awping and chrisJ was still rifling he was p. good AFAIK.
2020-12-17 23:40
1 reply
You are wrong, ChrisJ Was the main Awper for most of his career in many different teams.
2020-12-18 09:32
#258
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Portugal antCB
nah. there's a reason ChrisJ is at the top of the scene for so long, even if he doesn't really cut it (when you look at individual performace).
2020-12-15 12:54
9 replies
And what is the reason ?
2020-12-15 12:56
8 replies
#273
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Portugal antCB
1. he's good enough, despite what people like you or me think; 2. he has a spine.
2020-12-15 13:56
7 replies
And how can you back those claims?
2020-12-15 14:38
6 replies
#293
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Portugal antCB
if he hadn't any of the above traits, he would've been cut long ago. not that hard when you think about it. if he was a pos individual like the person in subject (allu), he would've long been cut from the team.
2020-12-15 16:17
5 replies
"if he hadn't any of the above traits, he would've been cut long ago." This is not a good logic.
2020-12-16 08:04
4 replies
#337
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Portugal antCB
so "good logic" in your POV would be to remove a team player for a "toxic beta leader" player?
2020-12-16 10:37
3 replies
"toxic beta leader player?" How did you conclude that this is my POV?
2020-12-16 10:53
2 replies
#342
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Portugal antCB
that is not your pov. it's my take on allu and his "persona" when looking at his former teammates tweets and comments on the show. damn, you're fucking slow.
2020-12-16 10:54
1 reply
You literally wrote: "so 'good logic' in your POV would be.." I give up.
2020-12-16 10:58
I like the sound of that tbh, a lot. After that ence could make right moves and I think allu could fit well in mousesports. Still remember allusports
2020-12-15 13:38
Pogg
2020-12-15 09:45
#277
sLowi | 
Lebanon SjpR
only problem is that he is part owner of ence
2020-12-15 14:03
1 reply
#326
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Israel xazetti
He can stay the owner while playing on a diff team.
2020-12-15 23:31
it confuses me why sunny would speak out on twitter considering he's still on the team with the guy
2020-12-15 00:35
8 replies
#47
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Brazil Karlogaria
Yeah. Maybe not for long...
2020-12-15 00:44
That puzzled me as well. I think that maybe they want to make amends and get back some respect (will not happen lol) and support by admiting the mistakes. Maybe sunny tries to throw allu under the bus. I dont get why they even talk about this now. Whats done is done, they are just reminding what an idiots they are.
2020-12-15 01:34
4 replies
Well at least the way I see it is, since Ence isn't in any events right now maybe allu has had some reflection and the hltv guys probably just invited him on... Who knows the reasoning, but the guy might feel guilty about certain things now and I mean, there were some parts during the VOD that allu looked legitimately sad describing some topics but eh What fucking pisses me off though? There have been multiple people, including Janko who somewhat hinted at the story that allu told NiKo that aleksib was shit when FaZe was trying to get him to fix the team. Guy can confess his sins but what the actual fuck is that?
2020-12-15 03:01
3 replies
Bruh. Don't blame allu. Blame NIKO. Who in their right mind would ask a kicked igl's former teammate. Allu totally doesn't seem like the guy who would put his personal problem aside to give an honest opinion. Imagine aleksib in faze man. That'd have been awesome. The sole reason they even denied aleksib is because he didn't fit their playstyle. And then faze went out and copied astralis style later on. Like what the heck man.
2020-12-15 06:06
2 replies
Oh yeah definitely I still blame NiKo for a majority of what ended up happening to FaZe over the years... It's honestly really depressing and he was super toxic for the team as a whole. But still, considering the story's well known enough that it's almost common knowledge in the community still erks me that they didn't ask him about, because I mean it's still highly unprofessional to tarnish a former teammate's career and be shitty about it on his way to another team. and idk from a lot of the interviews I saw, aleksib joining the lineup coulda been the turning point for FaZe right after Berlin... But there's sorta mixed messages on it
2020-12-15 17:28
#327
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Israel xazetti
its an equal mistake of allu and NiKo. who the fuck goes and shits on the guy who carries you to major finals and denies him a possible job opportunity, while also denying another team a chance to get a good teammate?? This has to be one of the biggest dick moves possible.
2020-12-15 23:33
Not for long. It's the final implosion - throwing your teammate under the bus while you're still playing with him. One or the other is out 100% after this. Sunny unfollowed allu in social media btw. Real soap opera this
2020-12-15 10:09
1 reply
Oh yeah and he had the tweet about not being mentioned even though they were friends for super long, this shit's spicy
2020-12-15 17:23
#31
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Finland ballu609
If they did -allu +ottoNd after the Berlin major we would have had an Ence era.
2020-12-15 00:36
14 replies
#37
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Pakistan LoOuU2
the only change they ever needed was -Aerial +Sunny with X7 still being with the shitty roles , we would have had a Finnish era then.
2020-12-15 00:38
2 replies
Nah, they never needed to make a change. They had a few months of success and were still growing. suNny was absolute dog shit after his extended break, looked like a heroin addict when he came back into the scene.
2020-12-15 01:51
1 reply
Allu even admitted that maybe they didnt have to change players but they should have found a way to deal with the problems they had. Maybe he was self reflecting, but didnt of course talk too much what those problems were.
2020-12-15 14:50
Not sure but atleast a top 10 team
2020-12-15 00:42
10 replies
#51
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Finland ballu609
Well yes, predicting eras is impossible, but at least it would have been way better, with biskela still in charge and toxic allu enjoying fatherhood rather than ruining the best Finnish team in history. I am so sad 😭
2020-12-15 00:45
#89
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Europe xanax_user
Wasnt ence top8 before kicking aleksi? I remember them being solid top3 too
2020-12-15 01:15
8 replies
Yep, just like VP or was it AVANGAR back then lmao
2020-12-15 07:45
5 replies
Ye, but major was the only time they were able to beat tier1 teams, other times they sucked
2020-12-15 11:44
4 replies
They won blast?
2020-12-15 13:35
3 replies
oh yeah, forgot about it
2020-12-15 13:40
2 replies
So they were just as good but not for as long as ENCE?
2020-12-15 13:50
1 reply
I think ENCE did more than Avangar. Both teams were able to reach major final, win BLAST, but ENCE has made even more, for example ending Astralis' Nuke streak and beating them in the final, reaching IEM Chicago final. Finns were able to do more in the longer period of time.
2020-12-15 14:06
Pretty sure they were top 3 in the rankings when they kicked aleksib. Or atleast when the kick was announced. They still played the major with aleksib and obviously that didnt work out too well with a kicked player in the roster lmao.
2020-12-15 13:45
1 reply
I remember they reached top3 after ending Astralis' nuke era, maybe they were even earlier, At Berlin major they made it 3-0 in group stage and we should respect Aleksib for that, because he was playing with awareness, that he will get kicked after the tournament. It would be funny if they were able to win the major, ENCE would get much more amount of hate, whitch they deserve
2020-12-15 14:15
big bruh
2020-12-15 00:36
KEKW NICE DRAMA
2020-12-15 00:37
No kidding, it's not like every single person in the entire universe called it a horrible mistake the moment news of the kick came out.
2020-12-15 00:37
#36
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Finland Hietsu
hindsight always best kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2020-12-15 00:38
1 reply
#329
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Israel xazetti
people were calling this a horrible roster move since day 1 of kicking Aleksi, so it's not even hindsight, its just the time it took allu to swallow his pride atleast a little xd
2020-12-15 23:36
Camon any org take - Aerial, Xseven, Sergej, God Aleksibob, and another one good awper with no vac ban
2020-12-15 00:39
9 replies
+ottoNd
2020-12-15 00:49
Basically Ottond or Zoree
2020-12-15 00:52
1 reply
Ottond good idea. Tier 1 team
2020-12-15 01:08
No reason for Aleksi to leave OG now.
2020-12-15 05:50
5 replies
#263
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Finland HARD4ENCE
No, but they could consider sergej to join in NBK's place after he's done with his military service. Old good sergej would for sure be a firepower upgrade, especially under aleksib's leadership. That is ofc, if sergej decides to come back playing CS altogether.
2020-12-15 13:12
4 replies
Tbh would be dumb not to come back unless he really hates playing nowadays. He would make a ton of money and you have time for "regular" jobs later on in life but this opportunity wont be open for long.
2020-12-15 13:56
2 replies
#275
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Finland HARD4ENCE
Yes and a break from all this shit and ENCE will probably do good for him. He'll probably regain his motivation and will to play while in the army. Then I hope he goes to OG.
2020-12-15 14:01
1 reply
Yes would be nice to see if he can still get to form. I think OG would be good team for him but not sure if replacing NBK is the right call. I mean if they want to be title contenders they need to replace NBK too, but I think Issaa is a bigger problem than NBK right now. Issaa plays roles where he needs to deliver the kills but he isnt doing a good job most of the time.
2020-12-15 14:10
#330
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Israel xazetti
why replace nbk tho? hes doing great.
2020-12-15 23:38
Name checks out
2020-12-15 00:40
We know. They should have removed you instead and added OttoNd.
2020-12-15 00:40
at least one of them fucking admitted it was wrong to kick him, they kick him and they drop to top 30. Aleksib's ence was fucking sick
2020-12-15 00:41
#43
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Canada gritabit
Glad he finally admitted it but it took him destroying the entire team to say it
2020-12-15 00:43
#44
Lack1 | 
Russia bult0
allu just started vote to kick him and said "call a timeout"
2020-12-15 00:43
me when i say kick green but my friend kick yellow
2020-12-15 00:43
#46
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Finland r1CEsT1CK
Only now they realise? Wow
2020-12-15 00:44
#48
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Peru devbot
Allu two faced toledo
2020-12-15 00:44
i really like allu and his sense of humour, but after all this i kinda have mixed feelings of the whole dude.. :S
2020-12-15 00:45
1 reply
He is mentally ill. I always thought his ego was off.
2020-12-15 03:09
#50
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Turkey vaxxle
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH this is not miss click, allu xd
2020-12-15 00:45
+1
2020-12-15 00:46
LMAO oh really allu
2020-12-15 00:46
The fact that Ence signed Jamppi and Allu is still the main awper says a lot how big his ego is
2020-12-15 00:47
4 replies
U can hate him all u want but the fact is Allu is top 3 awpers
2020-12-15 02:32
2 replies
TOP 3 KEKW AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2020-12-15 02:59
#138
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Finland eXampL
top 3 worst awpers
2020-12-15 03:49
#159
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Finland Faifainei
I dont mind that that much. Jamppi is better player, but skill levels between their rifling are bigger than their awping, and you need to get max out of your players.
2020-12-15 06:14
I thought it was already obvious allu is a toxic two faced snake?
2020-12-15 00:48
#59
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Hungary raffai
yare yare
2020-12-15 00:48
#60
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Turkey ocasy1903
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH BUT ALLU YOU'R HAVING FUN XDDD
2020-12-15 00:49
hot take
2020-12-15 00:49
#64
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Argentina jqn
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
2020-12-15 00:52
Either -allu +zoree/ottond/zehn/arvid/slowi/x7 Or Everyone else just go fuck out off ence and add another finnish player. There will be org that will take them for sure
2020-12-15 00:54
#67
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Hungary Shiron212
What? LMAO
2020-12-15 00:55
they should remove you
2020-12-15 00:56
pls just disband
2020-12-15 01:02
That wasn't so hard to say, now was it? (It was)
2020-12-15 01:05
I hope this day marks the start of a new Finnish CS era that allu, natu, lurppis etc. have poisoned for almost 20 years Thank mr sergej
2020-12-15 01:06
you don't say...
2020-12-15 01:07
#76
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Latvia FieryBlood
-allu please i beg you ence
2020-12-15 01:07
you ruined ence hahaah
2020-12-15 01:09
If suNny replaced Aerial back then they would've been top 5 team no doubt. As allu said they replaced wrong player.
2020-12-15 01:10
2 replies
That's if sunny was in shape. Sunny wasn't the same as before he joined a team. Never saw the same performance he used to have in mousesports. And heck he looked physically ill.
2020-12-15 05:55
1 reply
#176
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Finland X0BA
Sunny with aleksib would have been monster
2020-12-15 07:33
XD
2020-12-15 01:11
#83
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Portugal dracø
better late than never
2020-12-15 01:12
It's too little too late, ENCE is finished and there's no way back to T1 for them. They should just make a young roster around Jamppi and try to become a decent T2 team along the way, there's no chance for them on Majors anyway and there's a long wait until we even get close to the next one. Try something with the Gambit approach seems the best option for them.
2020-12-15 01:12
EZ4ENCEEZ4ENCE-------EZ4ENCEEZ4ENCEEZ4ENCE EZ4ENCEEZ4ENCE-------EZ4ENCEEZ4ENCEEZ4ENCE EZ4ENCE---------------------------------------------EZ4ENCE EZ4ENCEEZ4ENCE--------------------------EZ4ENCE EZ4ENCEEZ4ENCE-------------------EZ4ENCE EZ4ENCE---------------------------EZ4ENCE EZ4ENCEEZ4ENCE-------EZ4ENCEEZ4ENCEEZ4ENCE EZ4ENCEEZ4ENCE—----EZ4ENCEEZ4ENCEEZ4ENCE
2020-12-15 01:14
Captain Obvious strikes again... But at least he realized it
2020-12-15 01:14
Biggest understatement of 2020
2020-12-15 01:14
ence has been a meme team ever since valve added their song into the game and they dont matter at all, team ence is just a meme, and allu is a delusional moron who thinks is relevant
2020-12-15 01:14
Disband soon
2020-12-15 01:17
#91
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Europe xanax_user
Literally one guy destroyed most of finnish scene, sad story
2020-12-15 01:17
Damn they were having so much fun :(
2020-12-15 01:18
#93
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United States Festive_
sergej actually just ended allu’s career (although allu mostly did it himself) who’s gonna want to play with him now in washed up ence or if he tries to switch teams?
2020-12-15 01:19
Damn, pretty weird. Allu and sergej were actually pretty close and got together really well and now im reading this?
2020-12-15 01:19
1 reply
First allu helped sergej reach the top but then he ripped it apart.
2020-12-15 14:01
No shit sherlock
2020-12-15 01:21
rip finlando cs
2020-12-15 01:23
#100
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South America ZyvvOo
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk too dumb
2020-12-15 01:25
So who is impostor ?
2020-12-15 01:37
XD YOU WANTED TO HAVE FUN
2020-12-15 01:46
1 reply
#108
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Finland FlNLAND
Having fun led to every player burnout except for the main snake
2020-12-15 01:51
Disband? New Finnish team inc?
2020-12-15 01:49
hahahaha wrong player is bot allu, it's you.
2020-12-15 01:54
This made my day Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2020-12-15 02:01
it does make me happy that he finally said it
2020-12-15 02:03
#113
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Poland grapeeeee
allu is bot, never liked him. Sergiej and AleksiB re best players from old ence :( i really loved old team after beautiful History from qualfs to finals but ence in 2020 is joke
2020-12-15 02:18
2 replies
#338
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Portugal antCB
more like ence after -aleksiB is a joke.
2020-12-16 10:41
1 reply
#364
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Poland grapeeeee
Yes i agree
2020-12-22 07:48
LUL too late buddy
2020-12-15 02:19
Should have removed himself
2020-12-15 02:22
#116
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Finland Yumalauta
Well atleast he finally admits that they made a mistake. That is the first step even tho it is wayyyyyyyyyyyy too late now.
2020-12-15 02:26
#118
NiKo | 
Europe trey_
lol ence is basically dead at this point
2020-12-15 02:32
Maybe the could just try to have fun and play around more firepwoer?
2020-12-15 02:46
rip allu, everyone is turning their backs to him...
2020-12-15 02:46
How'd you figure that one out, Sherlock?
2020-12-15 02:53
#123
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Norway fuxzer
ENCE is the most boring team ever alng with Gen G, good riddance
2020-12-15 02:54
gj allu, destroyed Finnish cs completely :D
2020-12-15 02:57
"SuNny is better igl than aleksi because his firepower is better" lul ence...
2020-12-15 03:13
No Biskela, no win
2020-12-15 03:20
#137
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Brazil IguiN
-Allu +Aleksib fixed
2020-12-15 03:41
#139
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Australia popoto
FINALLY
2020-12-15 03:50
LMAO NICE
2020-12-15 03:56
Allu is great player and he is from old gard - same like fallen, fnx, GeT_RiGhT, f0rest and many others . To be honest I never liked ENCE or some Finnish csgo but I respect him because he is beast and put Finland on csgo map for a first time with NiP. He is legend alongside with lurppis, plaSte, contE, natu, ruuit, danzer, jigetus, H^N, Freon, TihOp, RUMBLE, BASiC which guys did everything for Finland CS but in that list I would not put there sergej, suNNy, Aerial, xseveN, ZORE, SLOW, Doto and others guys because they have big stagnation in their CS play and basically never achieved smth big compared to ROCCAT, WinFakt, Power Gaming, paistit, hoorai and many others team which back in past gave us really powerful picture about Finland CS, new generation of Finland players gave us a tons of individual plays in international teams and so much drama when they play together. Allu my friend just go retire, you do not belong between these unsocialised kids same like FalleN who made right decision time ago
2020-12-15 03:59
6 replies
<33
2020-12-15 04:04
5 replies
I forgot you bro, sorry :D <3 I remember you did perfect job as stand-in @ CPH Games 2012 and @ ESWC 2010. Also forgot to mention OK|, they were powerful team
2020-12-15 04:19
#339
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Portugal antCB
as an old fart and former finish elite player, what is your take on all of this dRiim?
2020-12-16 10:44
3 replies
i think there's lack of respect for players, just because they dont WIN every tournament doesn't make them bots, the competition is really tough nowadays... i don't know the specifics of this situation at hand in ence right now so i can't really say
2020-12-16 12:49
2 replies
#356
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Portugal antCB
thanks m8. you still playing every now and then, or have you abandoned the game :) ?
2020-12-17 12:08
1 reply
i play from time to time for fun... have been playing a bit more valorant now tho (shame on me)
2020-12-17 14:09
lmao
2020-12-15 04:13
PHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA IT is official snakellu laugh thread now KKKkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2020-12-15 04:28
Allu is a tactical genius. He is best known for his signature tactic "going B, but then benching AleksiB". He also has a second little known tactic of "going A, but then going home without any wins". What an absolute legend. Top 3 IGL for sure.
2020-12-15 04:36
oops
2020-12-15 04:49
#152
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World Beard43
The bizarre thing is that they must've been the only ones who didn't immediately know it was a ridiculously stupid move. At least he can acknowledge it now I guess.
2020-12-15 05:01
Ill give him credit for at least owning it now and not beating around the bush and ignoring it entirely. It is what it is unfortunately, you live and you learn.
2020-12-15 05:55
not so EZ4ENCE when you remove the best player woah, who could've seen that one coming?
2020-12-15 06:18
Lul
2020-12-15 06:38
#164
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Poland humen))))
congratz finally you realized that
2020-12-15 06:44
Huutopierua🤣🤣
2020-12-15 06:44
#166
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Singapore FallBlade
PogU cs drama
2020-12-15 06:47
Imagine taking over a year to realize this. People laugh at us HLTV users but we knew this was a bad move right when it happened.
2020-12-15 06:49
Aleksi Toledo
2020-12-15 06:55
Allu twofaced aswell?
2020-12-15 07:00
ahhahah wow Allu = it's real monstro! dictator! crazy maniac! Hannibal Lector! =)))
2020-12-15 07:14
allu god
2020-12-15 07:24
#174
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Finland Jambi_
Very nice interview :D
2020-12-15 07:27
#175
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Europe Tsukisaki
"The last months haven’t been easy for ENCE".. good one leobazzi good one
2020-12-15 07:29
What? No more fun?
2020-12-15 07:38
2 replies
I hope they had fun losing for a whole year 😂
2020-12-15 09:43
1 reply
Who cars about winning if you're having fun losing 🥰🥰
2020-12-15 10:08
#180
HS | 
Europe notien
removing aleksib instead of botseven yikes
2020-12-15 07:41
#182
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Sweden KhT
Aleksib was not the Imposter Defeat (just joking)
2020-12-15 07:44
#184
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Poland SebL
He was pretty important in this team, good that they realised now.
2020-12-15 07:51
#185
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Poland smutnyyy
LUL
2020-12-15 07:52
Impostor exposed KEKW.
2020-12-15 07:52
Removed wrong player xD You had time to think
2020-12-15 08:02
No shit sherlock
2020-12-15 08:32
bruh
2020-12-15 08:41
XAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXA
2020-12-15 09:29
1 reply
#209
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Ukraine Dert_
+1
2020-12-15 09:43
LMFAO Fins what doink
2020-12-15 09:41
2 replies
lol
2020-12-15 10:08
the scene is imploding
2020-12-15 10:22
they were a shit team who fluked their way into the top5 then people were surprised when they started playing at their actual ability again. Should have just disbanded a long time ago
2020-12-15 09:42
1 reply
#233
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Serbia hltvmens
i think you didnt watch them play when they were good. they were clearly a top 3 team after katowice.
2020-12-15 10:56
wrong person? he can't be serious? No shit it was wrong!
2020-12-15 09:54
Sad that 95% of ppl here only read title and they didnt realize real essence of this post xD
2020-12-15 09:55
lol
2020-12-15 09:59
#220
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Sweden hausmanis
No shit removing Aleksib was wrong, everyone was like WTF? how retarded are ENCE. Sunny was a good pickup but removing Aleksib was so stupid, he was good in ENCE, that move made zero sense. Ence killed themselfs
2020-12-15 10:02
Yeah they should've kicked you out and you knew it too, but you threw the whole team into the trash just to play cs for a few more years using your own influence
2020-12-15 10:05
#226
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Finland CleanMac
The story of ENCE is so tragic. From meme to majors and then back to a meme. Boohoo we dont get along so lets kick players out one by one. What a clown fiesta.
2020-12-15 10:11
2 replies
back to a sad meme
2020-12-15 10:24
#231
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Finland FlNLAND
Even the "EZ4ENCE" meme will always have bitter taste in it from now on. They ruined every good thing they had built.
2020-12-15 10:36
Sunny back 2 mouz? chrisj out
2020-12-15 10:24
EZ to bully someone, when the whole world is against him, Yes he took some wrong some decisions he already knows it well. Still rep for him.
2020-12-15 10:51
I really hope that no one from ENCE reads these comments, so retarded.
2020-12-15 10:56
6 replies
+1 this is troll site not real discussion mostly
2020-12-15 12:12
4 replies
True true, but I know some pros reads this shite
2020-12-15 12:23
3 replies
but do they really take it seriously xD i think in cs scene people are even more aggressive and toxic towards to pro's than in some other competitive scenes even inside esports only. e.g. who cares if LoL team changes roster? in cs: disband plz
2020-12-15 13:37
2 replies
Some do, a while back TeSes said on twitter something like "I try to avoid it, but it's hard to when you see your name as a topic" We (the community) are complete idiots, and we shouldn't be taken seriously.
2020-12-15 13:50
1 reply
Community is dissaster. too much guys has keyboard + net, and that is bad. Many wrongs opinions here on HLTV. org. Most of them are unsocialised kids
2020-12-15 16:13
??? how r these comments retarded. i see ppl mocking allu's no shit statement and can u blame them?
2020-12-15 16:41
Much as i like allu he need to let his interviewers talk :D hate how he talks top of them all the time.
2020-12-15 11:11
1 reply
wtf
2020-12-16 13:01
Lol people is just looking for a scapegoat, ENCE players are embarassing themselves fighting online. #respectallu
2020-12-15 11:17
#241
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Brazil Fauchard
really ? kick the wrong player ?
2020-12-15 11:26
aleksib now 😎😎😎
2020-12-15 11:57
so , allu is the finnish fallen ? 0.o
2020-12-15 12:24
no shit sherlock
2020-12-15 12:36
#252
zonic | 
Denmark MAMS
Guys i accidentally voted to kick Aleksib, just F2. Ah shit, we already clicked F1......fak
2020-12-15 12:37
1 reply
Allu calls a vote kick : "guys f1f1 I have to go the bathroom" *aleksib has left the server (voted off ) *
2020-12-15 13:02
Scandalous
2020-12-15 12:52
HE FINALLY ADMITTED IT HAHAHAHAHAHA
2020-12-15 13:00
fking Sherlock, they had bot xseven and bot Aerial in team and they decided to kick IGL
2020-12-15 13:35
1 reply
aleksib can make even bots work. that's how good ence was. now og is in top10. they can beat the likes of navi, but they just can't win championships, heh.
2020-12-15 15:23
#285
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Sweden Svahn
Allu - The boy who cried wolf
2020-12-15 15:07
lol asdsadsa
2020-12-15 15:18
Org gained much money on the other hand
2020-12-15 15:47
no shit, of course you did you bot
2020-12-15 16:09
Should have removed himself
2020-12-15 16:27
Bot allu ruined ence
2020-12-15 16:30
XAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXA "ALLU ON ALEKSIB'S KICK: "WE REMOVED THE WRONG PLAYER"" AHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAAHAHAAHAHAAHA
2020-12-15 16:35
#298
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Finland (RANE)
people didn't even watch the whole thing but act like they did :(
2020-12-15 16:44
TLDR Allu is autistic
2020-12-15 17:40
hard4ence mens(((
2020-12-15 17:43
dug his own grave KEKW
2020-12-15 18:18
Did you just know?
2020-12-15 20:54
"we had to remove someone for my friend sunny to get a salary" Shut it allu, we know why you removed a player
2020-12-15 21:07
1 reply
and now they aren't even friends anymore with suNny
2020-12-15 22:51
Wtf😳😳 didn’t know
2020-12-15 22:36
fak allu mens he is snake
2020-12-15 23:34
"His personality isn't as simple or harmless as it might seem. I'm not going to open up more about this situation because it's a mental health thing and that is not for me or Twitter to handle." . and suNny got betrayed twitter.com/suNnycsgo/status/13387306142..
2020-12-15 23:45
hahaha no shit.
2020-12-16 00:32
+BnTeT
2020-12-16 06:22
#352
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Japan no_u
allu don't deserve any shit after that kick.
2020-12-16 15:25
They should have removed allu and sign ottond or zoree to awp
2020-12-17 04:16
Yo les noobs, GOD ALLU, mental illness gang.
2020-12-17 11:24
#359
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Finland sonicz
Didn't watch a single ENCE game after they kicked Aleksib. What a waste of time it would have Been.
2020-12-17 20:18
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