ENCE: "We take full responsibility for not understanding the severity of the existing problems"

The Finnish organisation says that it is currently evaluating the situation together with the team.

ENCE have issued a statement to address the chaotic situation of their CS:GO team in the aftermath of Monday's 'HLTV Confirmed' episode with Aleksi "⁠allu⁠" Jalli. The Finnish organisation says that it is currently "processing the situation" after the 28-year-old's comments sparked a chain reaction that exposed deep issues in the squad.

allu commented on a variety of topics, including the August 2019 removal of then in-game leader Aleksi "⁠Aleksib⁠" Virolainen and the team's struggles ever since that controversial move. He recognised that the team "removed the wrong player" but said that he should not be vilified for the decision, which, he stressed, was not made by him alone.

allu also revealed that Jere "⁠sergej⁠" Salo, who stepped down from ENCE last month to start his military service, had been struggling with motivation issues for a while and that the team took a month-long break in the spring to help the youngster get comfortable again.

ENCE took blame for not understanding the team's issues

While the show was still running, sergej took to Twitter to dispute allu's account of some of the events that were discussed. The 18-year-old said that allu's personality is "not as simple and harmless" as it might seem and that "there's a reason why" his former teammate is the only remaining member of ENCE's original lineup. sergej added that he will not comment on this matter anymore "because it's a mental health thing" and that old teammates can back up his claims.

Sami "⁠xseveN⁠" Laasanen, who left the team in August, quickly retweeted sergej's post, but it wasn't just former ENCE players who appeared to challenge allu's comments. Miikka "⁠suNny⁠" Kemppi said that allu spoke the "truth but not the whole truth", adding that he felt "betrayed" while watching the show as his teammate did not explain "why the leadership was given to me."

With no events on the horizon until March and only a four-man roster, ENCE are now left with the difficult task of putting their house in order, with the team currently sitting 34th in the world ranking - the lowest they have been since June 2018.

"We take full responsibility for not understanding the severity of the existent problems," the Finnish organisation said. "We wish for patience as we internally evaluate the situation with our CS:GO team.

"We will give you an update as soon as we conclude our next steps."

Finland Sami 'xseveN' Laasanen
Sami 'xseveN' Laasanen
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
1004
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.67
Finland Miikka 'suNny' Kemppi
Miikka 'suNny' Kemppi
Age:
26
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1189
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.69
Finland Aleksi 'allu' Jalli
Aleksi 'allu' Jalli
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
1539
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.64
Finland Aleksi 'Aleksib' Virolainen
Aleksi 'Aleksib' Virolainen
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
826
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.66
Finland Jere 'sergej' Salo
Jere 'sergej' Salo
Age:
19
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
673
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.64
#4
ZywOo | 
India aR__
Now they come into action finally?
2020-12-16 17:21
35 replies
#63
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Turkey LantarEZ
a bit too late i guess
2020-12-16 17:45
31 replies
their rep is already fucked and the only people supporting them are patriotic fins so yea. They let this shit slide for far too long despite prior criticism and now they're saying they weren't aware of the situation. Lmao @ the PR script
2020-12-16 18:22
30 replies
#85
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Argentina NOJOMO
ENCE is the only pro team i have no respect for. They don´t deserve anything.
2020-12-16 18:26
4 replies
This^
2020-12-17 01:44
+11111111
2020-12-17 03:32
#209
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Czech Republic Gregous
+1
2020-12-17 12:40
why exactly ? (just to know)
2020-12-17 20:19
#86
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Turkey LantarEZ
ence already lost so much. sad :(
2020-12-16 18:27
+111111
2020-12-16 19:03
Big +1
2020-12-16 19:14
I feel really bad for the new members tbh, they indirectly got involved in this
2020-12-16 22:43
17 replies
nrly ENCE is probably Jamppi's biggest team he'll ever play in and the other guy can still prove himself. I feel bad for the guys from the old squad Aerial - mental health fucked, got manipulated quite a bit xseven - joined havu (#101 currently) likely not gonna go higher than that in his career sergej - super talented kid, dropped off a cliff in 2020, joined the fucking military likely giving up cs as a whole These guys reached the finals of a major in spectacular fashion, took down Astralis' nuke streak yet it all came crashing down because of allu and ENCE's dog shit management
2020-12-17 03:21
16 replies
seems like kicking aleksib saved his career from allu lmao
2020-12-17 03:33
2 replies
How it is understood today, from what we know and some creative thinking we can say when aleksib was in the team there were 2 camps in the team, 1 consiting of allu and sergej and the other consisting of xseven and aerial and then there is aleksib, as the glue holding the team together in between the 2 camps. sergej didn't like some of allu's decisions which led him to jump ship shortly after aleksib removal.
2020-12-17 11:03
1 reply
Strange considering how aleksib and sergej had played together for quite a long time before ENCE. I would think one camp was allu+twista, but then again, we know fuck all. I hope they clear all this up.
2020-12-17 13:21
Can you explain me what really happened ? What allu did to them ?
2020-12-17 05:50
1 reply
I'm pretty sure it's speculation, but it's pretty obvious allu was the one who got Aleksib (their former igl) kicked, which after that ENCE haven't looked good at all for 1.5 years now.
2020-12-17 07:56
aerial, xseven and sergej reunion will happen sooner or later. that trio will make finnish cs gr8 again. allu is old dog who only baits.
2020-12-17 05:59
#210
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Finland Wavekrest
Finnish conscription takes 6-12 months, so sergej will likely be back in July. Would be interesting to see what would have to happen in ENCE for him to stay there though
2020-12-17 13:13
Sergej didn't join the military he has to go there.
2020-12-17 13:19
4 replies
can't you skip it if you're working or something, that's how it usually is in most countries
2020-12-17 16:02
2 replies
finland is still fairly strict regarding conscription
2020-12-17 16:48
No, you can't skip it unless you have some kind of bad injury or other medical condition.
2020-12-19 13:50
Well if you read he's own statements, he's not sad about - he's actually looking forward to it and are really excited about it. Maby he HAS to, but he also really WANTS to.
2020-12-17 17:55
#225
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Finland siloquez
"Joined" the military is wording that unproperly. Every Finnish man has a callout and will serve (6-12months apprx), unless they enjoy life too much (smokeweedeveryday) =D.
2020-12-17 16:45
3 replies
2020-12-17 16:46
2 replies
#228
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Finland siloquez
You can delay it, for job, school etc. If you want peace time exemption, you need to have somekinda mental issues, drug problem etc. To get fully out of it you need to be super fat schoolshooter or smth.
2020-12-17 16:50
1 reply
unlucky
2020-12-17 17:22
Yeah now havu is the only good team left from Finland
2020-12-17 03:12
3 replies
which is sad cause it's currently sitting at #101
2020-12-17 03:21
2 replies
Yeah
2020-12-17 03:22
#224
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Russia MC_VISER
NIP???? Yes, they are not so good, but overall better than a freaking ence without aleksi
2020-12-17 16:41
astaRR is that you?
2020-12-16 18:00
ENCE closing the horse after the door has bolted
2020-12-16 18:07
1 reply
Lol
2020-12-16 20:17
Good that they finally said it.
2020-12-16 17:21
9 replies
no aleksib no major for us😪
2020-12-16 18:15
8 replies
Feels really sad man... I loved the Aleksi ENCE... So much potential just lost.
2020-12-16 21:28
7 replies
And all because he "couldn't frag", or at least that was the main reason. It's a pity that a lot of teams these days tend to kick their IGL that got them to where they are.
2020-12-16 23:36
6 replies
aleksib wasn’t a bad fragger at all in 2019 considering how much he brings as an igl, he’s basically hunden but with lots more firepower hltv.org/stats/players/9816/aleksib?star.. the only other tier 1 igls which had a 1.0+ rating for all of 2019 were nitr0 (1.04), gla1ve (1.06), stanislaw (1.01) and alex (1.01). nexa and boombl4 doesn’t count since they spent half the year or more in lower tier teams and were not igl until they joined g2 and navi respectively considering aleksib was only tactically worse than gla1ve, i think he was definitely a top 3 igl in 2019 1. gla1ve 2. nitr0 3. aleksib 4. alex 5. stan
2020-12-17 03:40
5 replies
I didn't mean to say aleksib was bad, so my apologies for giving off the wrong idea. I meant to say that allu considered him "bad" back then.
2020-12-17 03:59
2 replies
no worries, i just wanted to add onto what you said actually should’ve added +1
2020-12-17 04:06
1 reply
No worries. The conclusion is the removing aleksib was their biggest mistake and they got what they deserved :P
2020-12-17 05:49
Sir, nitr0 wasn't an igl
2020-12-17 09:38
1 reply
in 2019 he was an igl sadly he fell off a cliff but he was very much an igl, has been since 2018
2020-12-17 15:40
#6
FaNg | 
United States NA_KEKW
Snake allu exposed
2020-12-16 17:21
9 replies
Allu "Two-Faced" Toledo ?
2020-12-16 17:42
7 replies
Toledo is brand image of being snake kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk Bra71llian fangirls where are you kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2020-12-16 18:01
5 replies
here. buy why? fallen didnt do anything he literally made everything for br cs why do play say that?
2020-12-16 19:01
2 replies
if he did 1000 in 2015 he did -2000 in 2019
2020-12-16 19:35
tres bien merci
2020-12-17 02:15
#183
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
in here!
2020-12-17 04:05
1 reply
*braziallian fallen fangirls
2020-12-17 07:46
The son of fallen
2020-12-16 19:28
+1
2020-12-16 17:45
#7
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United Kingdom DDoubleE
Disband please.
2020-12-16 17:21
HLTV disbands ENCE
2020-12-16 17:22
#9
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Disband Inc Allu to Mouz, Saddyx and DOTA 2 back to Tier 2 Finnish scene, Sunny in place of ISSA and Jamppi back to selling accounts and getting banned.
2020-12-16 17:22
26 replies
You are fucking kidding right? You think allu gets a new team to bully after this shit show?
2020-12-16 17:23
19 replies
#17
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Snakeallu is going to get hold of Mouz's CEO's private photos and blackmail his way in, you aren't aware of the man's capability.
2020-12-16 17:24
2 replies
I arent think that
2020-12-16 17:25
Lmaooo
2020-12-16 19:29
#23
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Finland Faust_fSt
allu getting signed by Astralis is still more likely than suNny joining any top 20 team
2020-12-16 17:25
15 replies
Reply needs to have actual content
2020-12-16 17:27
SunNy was good when he was on mouz though so its not impossible
2020-12-16 17:27
8 replies
#36
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Finland Faust_fSt
yes, he was. that was, by now, 2 years ago, after which he has shown nothing but "average" performances at best, and his handling of this latest ENCE drama certainly doesn't make suNny look good either.
2020-12-16 17:29
7 replies
Well some people like FaZe look back as far as 3 years (last time Kjaerbye was good) so thats why Im saying it is more likely then Allu to Astralis
2020-12-16 17:30
4 replies
#40
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Finland Faust_fSt
I must admit I was exaggerating humorously in #23 - I do not think it is literally more likely that Astralis would sign allu. Just making a point that suNny will not be picked up by any top 30 team just like that.
2020-12-16 17:31
2 replies
Maybe its a role problem on Ence idk I dont watch them much since they havent played recently
2020-12-16 17:43
1 reply
I think suNny has to prove himself again before getting any long-term offers.
2020-12-17 12:05
Atleast kjaerbye was a major mvp and still better than sunny.
2020-12-16 19:31
Sunny poor performance can easily be explained by bad leadership, structure, mentality and usage in current roster. Look at the performances of all old ence players with aleksi and compare them to their stats almost immediately following aleksi. Now consider this, you have a bad IGL who doesn't understand the game/tempo of the game and he's a dictator demanding perfect following of strats that he doesn't even call correctly, then gets upset with you that you didn't follow.... Can be really easy to second guess everything you do and look like a fool everytime you die. Especially when you consider that an IGL may not be signing your paychecks but he certainly is your "boss" so to speak, because remember, these guys do this as a job and get paid.
2020-12-16 23:00
1 reply
#171
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Finland Faust_fSt
If you were to look at ratings/results alone, your explanation might be valid, but my judgement on his performance draws from individual, awful decision-making. Also, if they are telling the truth, suNny himself was calling for almost a whole year out of the 15 months he's been with ENCE, so the latter part doesn't fly.
2020-12-17 01:46
#79
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Finland Abelzini
Sunny joining godsent, listen newest Urheilucast.
2020-12-16 18:15
Sunny is joining godsent though
2020-12-17 13:24
3 replies
#218
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Finland Faust_fSt
So allu must have said no to Astralis
2020-12-17 14:11
2 replies
Zehn visited urheilucast and hinted at it. One or the other is out for sure after this, and I have no reason to not believe him.
2020-12-17 14:13
1 reply
#220
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Finland Faust_fSt
Yeah I hear it's all but announced by now that suNny is joining Godsent. Idiotic signing by them imo and I can't tell how their roles are gonna turn out, or is suNny gonna join as a sixth for the time being to not have another 1 year break.
2020-12-17 14:17
Jamppi KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKJJJJJJJ
2020-12-16 18:03
Karrigan hates allu, they cannot play together. So Allu to mouz is never ever going to happen.
2020-12-16 19:51
4 replies
#126
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Ok then, Allu to G2 with his friend Choko
2020-12-16 19:52
1 reply
Allu to G2, Jackz to ENCE.
2020-12-16 20:10
Since when karrigan hates allu?
2020-12-17 09:57
Source?
2020-12-17 13:13
Who else should?
2020-12-16 17:22
#11
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Russia e1em3nt
santa barbara. finnish edition
2020-12-16 17:23
2 replies
#35
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Sweden crindz
KEKW
2020-12-16 17:29
+1
2020-12-16 17:43
#13
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Brazil Mad_bettor
Aleksib is overrated
2020-12-16 17:23
5 replies
hahahahhaha
2020-12-16 17:27
#84
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India rivervp
Lol
2020-12-16 18:25
HÖHÖHÖHÖHÖ
2020-12-16 18:34
I mean yeas but he is still much above average good
2020-12-16 18:53
0/8
2020-12-17 10:24
f
2020-12-16 17:23
1 reply
Players should never be the decision makers of a team.
2020-12-17 05:42
#15
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Jordan Zereeni
lol
2020-12-16 17:23
#16
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Finland Faust_fSt
natu and miqaqu take zero responsibility for anything whatsoever, just like a year ago.
2020-12-16 17:24
11 replies
Indeed. "We didn't understand the situation". Well that means you're not the right people in the right place. Shuffle needed not just among players but management as well.
2020-12-16 17:30
5 replies
#45
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Finland Faust_fSt
"Let's talk things straight" Proceed to make and post this nonsense: youtube.com/watch?v=pjgCPzwUCQM Management straight out of Kummeli
2020-12-16 17:35
3 replies
Agreed
2020-12-16 17:43
#134
God | 
Finland 5way
+1
2020-12-16 20:27
+1
2020-12-17 13:14
+1
2020-12-16 17:39
#49
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Finland H0rnPub
Both need to be fired, embarrassing af, left only bad stigma for finnish scene
2020-12-16 17:36
4 replies
+1 ENCE needs a proper management and I think they can bounce back.
2020-12-16 18:44
1 reply
Just speculating. Theire going to give allu a new role outside of roster because of the outside pressure. This will change nothing in the long tern. I can see his value as a player, but I think the current management doenst want to admit the true problem in the team..
2020-12-16 19:03
#142
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Finland Faust_fSt
Unfortunately ENCE in fact IS allu, natu, sunny, lurppis, miqaqu and a few others, so they are highly unlikely to fire themselves. ENCE are merely masquerading as a legitimate organization, when it's just an old friends' sauna club who can't run shit unless the team itself just happens to work well.
2020-12-16 20:54
Who's gonna fire them?
2020-12-16 21:57
NOTEZ4ENCE
2020-12-16 17:24
HARD4ENCE.
2020-12-16 17:24
So much conspiracy theories, I wish allu would've just said the truth, although I still think the hltv hosts put fuel to the fire by making allu respond to the tweets on the spot
2020-12-16 17:25
2 replies
it was the only way to get any answers at all, that's why they did it.
2020-12-16 17:38
1 reply
I know, but what did they expect allu to say? Even looking at their reaction when they were showing the tweet it looked like they were doing it more as a "gotcha" than to be productive, i could be wrong though
2020-12-16 19:10
Not sure if they realize but in these situations you don't come out a winner. They have to be more honest if they wish to keep any fans. And sorry to say but the same people in management cannot stay. If there is no clean up there is no way anyone's going to trust them.
2020-12-16 17:25
#25
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Denmark dyinbyran
lol glad that aleksib got kicked if he was in this shitshow still, his career would have been worse too or idk if ence would have been great
2020-12-16 17:26
7 replies
#46
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Europe X1gma
never would have been a shitshow if they didnt kick Aleksib
2020-12-16 17:36
6 replies
#53
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Denmark dyinbyran
I dont think so, it seems like the players are hating allu and ence never realised it. So if aleksib had been there it would have caused problems like this and made him play bad too
2020-12-16 17:40
5 replies
#89
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India rivervp
No aleksib = no ence. Simple.
2020-12-16 18:30
Back to ego i guess. Heck Aleksib has his own playbook but perhaps they're not comfortable after playing "by the book" too much even tho they were top teams at that time. I mean... that "For Fun" reasoning? They definetly want to play more freely but here we are
2020-12-16 18:44
3 replies
being a tier 3 team is totally more fun than upsetting liquid and navi at a major, ending astralis’ nuke winstreak and 2-0ing them, being a top 3 team and going 3-0 in the legend stage of the next major when teams like liquid and astralis barely scrapped by. also, they got a music kit in csgo before this, allu’s biggest success was making a major final in 2015 and getting kicked off faze lmao KEKW ence worst esports org ever
2020-12-17 03:48
2 replies
Sad but true. I am still happy that atleast Aleksib is doing good now. Also Zehn has been playing pretty decent lately.
2020-12-17 05:49
1 reply
+1 those 2 are good tier players for sure, really hope zehn and godsent finds his way into the top 10
2020-12-17 07:19
Well seems like someone's been self-destructive lately.
2020-12-16 17:26
2020-12-16 17:26
2 replies
What happened: sergej's balls descended and they turned out to be way bigger than allu's
2020-12-16 17:34
Wtf
2020-12-17 04:29
Disband please and justice for aleksib.
2020-12-16 17:26
#33
Xyp9x | 
Hungary xAii
ENCE stickers gonna skyrocket if disband (?)
2020-12-16 17:28
It's a massacre
2020-12-16 17:28
#39
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India Da_to
BUMP
2020-12-16 17:31
Allu is the problem even though he's a good awper. Sad Aleksib was kicked in that way. He deserved better. Time to rebuild ENCE
2020-12-16 17:34
What happened explained: sergej's balls descended and they turned out to be way bigger than allu's
2020-12-16 17:34
8 replies
+1
2020-12-16 17:35
By writing an argument in twitter, instead of saying it face to face? Most bitchiest thing I´ve ever seen :D
2020-12-16 17:42
4 replies
How do you know that did not happen? allu owns ENCE. You either stick with him, or you leave. Sergej left.
2020-12-16 17:54
3 replies
#135
God | 
Finland 5way
"allu owns ENCE" yea like 5% of it...
2020-12-16 20:30
2 replies
It's not the point. Yeah, he only owns 6.5% of the org but his impact in this org regarding CSGO, is way bigger than 6.5%.
2020-12-16 21:59
Allu owns part of the org, and if you don't, you are at pretty thin ice on confronting allu and allu's behavior. If the org wants to affect to this, and allu is not happy, org will need to buy allu out of his ownership, and that likely isn't cheap at this point.
2020-12-16 22:31
idk i think allu also has balls he went on HLTV:confirmed in a time like these he reacted to sergejs tweet as if it was bound to happen.
2020-12-16 19:07
1 reply
+1
2020-12-16 19:08
clownfiesta par excellence
2020-12-16 17:36
Get rid of natu.
2020-12-16 17:36
1 reply
+1111111
2020-12-16 19:10
Also, finnish scene is dead.
2020-12-16 17:37
1 reply
no it's not
2020-12-16 17:44
Never stop the madness, lol
2020-12-16 17:40
just disband
2020-12-16 17:45
I do not understand the drama. When watching the podcast I found allu's statements to be honest and in no way contriversial but yet these former ence players go out making statements like angry children. Probably for the best that they are all gone. Aleksib seems to be the only one able to act like an adult amongst this.
2020-12-16 17:49
5 replies
#81
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Iceland Voidsphere
Hmm, yeah. At first I found his statements to be honest, too, but Sergej's probably got a point there and there's always two sides to each story.
2020-12-16 18:18
4 replies
Then what was the lie he told about sergej? Or any other player..
2020-12-16 18:31
2 replies
#92
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Iceland Voidsphere
I dunno, I can't judge that as an outsider. What we certainly do know now though: ENCE has fallen to pieces. Lots of pieces.
2020-12-16 18:40
Like Sunny said, what allu said is true but not whole truth
2020-12-16 19:10
I mean even if they both experienced the same thing or whatever sergej is pissed about memories easily change so maby in allus mind its not that bad etc idk im not psycologist
2020-12-16 19:09
4 man roster? Who left? Allu?
2020-12-16 17:50
3 replies
Saddyx just stand-in Jamppi Allu Sunny Doto
2020-12-16 17:52
i think SADDYX is only a standin for the time beeing
2020-12-16 18:01
3 man soon, sunny is (reportedly/allegedly/overheard it in a bar) leaving for godsent. I wonder who the hell they are going to get after this mess.
2020-12-17 13:32
I just hope ENCE management won't be stupid enough to blame sergej and sunny for speaking out. Sure it wasn't the best way to handle this. But if the management let the situation go this far, or didn't even understand the situation, then what chance did any of the players have to resolve it in any other way?
2020-12-16 18:07
2 replies
There comes the part since we dont know about have ENCE ignored things completely if they have even known about those issues.
2020-12-16 18:11
1 reply
Either way they have failed.
2020-12-16 18:42
sunny -> godsent aerial -> havu allu -> mousesports
2020-12-16 18:07
6 replies
Nah, karrigan is not a fan of a guy who destroyed the team on his own. Allu is gonna join another tier 3 team just like ence.
2020-12-16 18:43
1 reply
#154
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Croatia Makz_CRO
I will laugh so hard if he goes to Apeks
2020-12-16 22:10
Allu in mousesports is never going to happen, Karrigan hates him a lot.
2020-12-16 21:32
3 replies
Source?
2020-12-17 00:19
2 replies
Karrigan has had beef with Allu during FaZe times (since allu told to NiKo that Karrigan sucks and shouldn't be taken into the team). See also this banter. youtube.com/watch?v=_6dr5bPX9i0
2020-12-17 00:27
1 reply
thx
2020-12-17 09:37
#77
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United States PP_Bizon
allu: speaks for more than a minute his team in the next hour: destroyed
2020-12-16 18:11
3 replies
+1
2020-12-16 22:34
And then people wonder why Finns are so shy and quiet in interviews. Saying more than two words absolutely destroys everything
2020-12-18 16:52
1 reply
#247
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United States PP_Bizon
lol, allu is probably never going to interview again after this
2020-12-18 18:23
time to kick allu and be top 20 with otto :D
2020-12-16 18:13
3 replies
+1
2020-12-16 20:25
Zoree better choice imo
2020-12-17 05:58
+1 imagine at that time they kicked allu instead of aleksib, and replace him with otto
2020-12-17 06:00
#82
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United States xiquo
God forbid we could just address issues and become better people from it. LUL how does this shit happen so much.
2020-12-16 18:21
Sad to see this happening to ENCE, obviously kicking AleksiB was a mistake but it has affected the team more than was ever expected. There is no recovering bc AleksiB is the only finnish REAL/GOOD IGL, and thus I believe the story of ENCE is about to end. There is potential to be TOP20 team but thete is no IGL.
2020-12-16 18:29
pls disband, your ruining the reputation of Finnish cs
2020-12-16 18:43
Allu tries to hide behind the "org" lul. it only fulfils the missing piece. That Allu was the only problem here. Also on HLTV stream, he acted weird. Couldn't look straight into the cam. And his voice sounded like a guilty 14year kid. Also "As far as I remember" on every sentence as he would sit in court.
2020-12-16 18:44
3 replies
Tbh these guys are cs pros not pr pros like casters. I think he just is like that.
2020-12-17 00:21
I'd rather look at the face of the person speaking to me than stare at a black webcam.
2020-12-17 01:25
only dodgy thing was him literally dodging the questions. striker and prof did REALLY BAD job in there. with spunj they would have probably actually got some answers outside of the obv and some match history.
2020-12-17 09:20
#101
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Russia NyC1R
Ence disband soon
2020-12-16 18:55
#prayforENCE
2020-12-16 18:55
well fuck
2020-12-16 19:04
ROFLMAO, how fucking stupid org is ENCE???? They kick their best player and let snake allu take charge, and then its a fucking suprise that everything is going to hell? Braindead ppl, ENCE plz disband. The most sad story of a how a good team can be fucked up completely. btw.that HLTV Confirmed episode was the best. allu getting roasted big time KEKW
2020-12-16 19:08
3 replies
There were no "best player" in former ENCE, it was the whole group that made it work so well.
2020-12-16 19:24
2 replies
Ok, they kicked their MOST IMPORTANT player. Who the f kicks the IGL from a team? Oh yea, allu does KEKWKEKWKEKWKEKW
2020-12-16 19:45
1 reply
idk every team since dawn of time?
2020-12-17 09:29
BOT ALLU THE PROBLEM
2020-12-16 19:09
Allu shit himself when reading this
2020-12-16 19:10
6 replies
#131
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Finland (RANE)
probably because it was hard 4 him to explain the situation in english :( ps. I hate how people think he's a lier just because he had that reaction
2020-12-16 20:14
5 replies
As said by #128 Allu seems to have destroyed Finnish CS, he knows english great and spoke it in NiP, Liquid, FaZe, and OpTic. He knows English perfectly, and as said by his former teammates he seems to be... untrustworthy.
2020-12-16 20:46
4 replies
#145
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Finland (RANE)
It's true the Finnish cs is completely destroyed, but I wouldn't say allu was the one who destroyed it, we have to remember allu didn't kick aleksib ence did. as for the English, it's true he has been on many international teams before, but that doesn't mean he "knows English perfectly" in cs u don't need English as much as u would need it to flawlessly escape from a situation like that. And from the tweets, we don't really get that much information ofc allu might be pulling some strings behind the curtains, again (we really don't know) so we shouldn't judge him 4 now. twitch.tv/videos/837321692 allu is probably one of my favorite cs go players, but I can assure u that didn't cloud my judgment. o right, I'm going to go 4 a little sleep now hope u have cooked up some kind of a reply 4 tomorrow:)
2020-12-16 21:14
3 replies
Yes it is more dead than NA CS which makes me happy. And honestly I think he is a core part as of why, think of him as Snax for VP. Sure Snax didn't single handedly kill Polish CS but he clearly had a important hand in it. And kicking Aleksib is something that Allu also clearly had a hand in. No reason for ENCE to kick him, and yet he was kicking, and Allu became the IGL. It is clear that internal divisions are why Aleksi was kicked. No I'm pretty sure he should know English far better than someone like GuardiaN would, and GuardiaN speaks prefect fluent english. I'd recommend listening to some old comms from the NiP days with Allu, he speaks pretty much perfect english and they fuck around a lot, they say much more than just simple callouts or tactics, and that was like 5 years ago, I'm sure it has improved even more now. We get enough info to know that Allu is much more menacing than initially perceived, and that he clearly has a hand in the roster changes and the motivational issues of the team. The real question is how much. We know more about Allu's leverage over ENCE better than we know NiKo's leverage over FaZe, and yet everyone says NiKo ruined FaZe, so why not the same for Allu? Ever heard of unconscious bias? You may not realize it but everyone will have preferences and that will shape your judgment. Ok
2020-12-16 21:45
2 replies
I completely agree with this. It is becoming ever clearer that allu used the leverage of his status as a veteran and an owner of the team to get aleksib kicked. The largest sports podcast in Finland reported that this process began very early, even during the Katowice major run. Other stuff they've heard would qualify as workplace harassment. Would fit the picture too, since the members of the original lineup are getting leveled by mental health/motivation problems. I'm happy that HAVU has a decent lineup now. There's at least one Finnish team that can excel. But it does seem this man's cunning, combined with the weak leadership of the executives in ENCE, has decimated our scene for some time to come.
2020-12-17 13:53
1 reply
😊 I think HAVU could maybe break top 30 but I think they need a bit more firepower, and if not that they need a hella good IGL or at least a good coach.
2020-12-17 18:19
#117
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Netherlands KOLK2
Missing the times when ENCE had no issues :(
2020-12-16 19:21
What a joke org
2020-12-16 19:28
34th in the world
2020-12-16 20:05
allu is new Snax in terms of destroying the best team in his country
2020-12-16 20:09
3 replies
What did snax do? I didnt follow cs at that time
2020-12-16 21:28
2 replies
1. he kicked Taz 2. team had even worse results 3.he left to mouz 4.he returned in the new roaster 5.he kept changing players until the tam was disbanded
2020-12-17 18:29
1 reply
Oh RIP The only thing I about snap was the 1v4 pistol in cobble :)
2020-12-22 19:25
BOT ENCE! stole moneys from me
2020-12-16 20:14
#137
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Finland 5way
(5/5) vote kick Mika Kuusisto (CEO of ence) (5/5) vote kick natu
2020-12-16 20:32
3 replies
#143
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Finland H0rnPub
general manager: niklas? too replace with olvari
2020-12-16 20:55
2 replies
yes! Olvari to GM!
2020-12-16 20:58
#163
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Finland 5way
yes replace him with olvari, Niklas has to be to worst GM ever
2020-12-17 00:13
#140
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Russia SW@G_2
who else needed to take responsibility for a team failing apart from the team that was failing LOL
2020-12-16 20:52
#141
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Finland H0rnPub
They alrdy disbanded their lol and NCL team lmao
2020-12-16 20:53
when they said "they removed the wrong player" why even remove a player at that point? the team was fucking sick, shitty thing to remove someone in the first place nevermind aleksib
2020-12-16 21:17
#160
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Poland SebL
This is getting really weird now, becoming a really shit story.
2020-12-16 23:20
just dont disband and you guys are gointo to rise again. finland cs powerhose, inevitably will allways have good teams.
2020-12-16 23:51
#167
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Poland SmartyyCS
not EZ4ENCE kicking aleksi canceled this team
2020-12-17 00:28
As always with cs go, and maybe it's more fun, children's game
2020-12-17 01:57
im happy ence is disbands for sure. aleksib makes player no name like sergej ,arial and xseven looks good and that's really good punishment for their management player . impactful player like aleksib its barely insane to found , if ence still standing with aleksib they can like astralis from losing streak to 4 times major winner . OG have system like that now if you have problem with team just continue (no need bench or betray someone) OG management so good for aleksib who trust his teamates has team.
2020-12-17 08:53
-doto -allu -jamppi +Awper +sergej +aerial +aleksib
2020-12-17 09:57
this entire org has been a complete shit show for the last 1 1/2 years pls disband
2020-12-17 10:26
Aleksib bring two 2-tier teams to the top10 with strategy, is hilarious when bot allu kicked him and now Ence is worse than OG with a lot of flap players... Firepower without brain = Ence.
2020-12-17 11:53
#208
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Finland mmiikkaa
RIP ence HAVU top 30 again? don`t let allu destroy another team anymore.. but i also hope he achieves something as a player before he retires!
2020-12-17 12:10
2 replies
I dont. Hope he retires and everyone forget him
2020-12-17 20:23
1 reply
#237
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Finland mmiikkaa
No need to forget him. was and is awesome player not maybe as person but he can become better one.
2020-12-17 22:37
allu quiet is a poet
2020-12-17 15:13
#229
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North America joeS
Idk why they are acting like they didn't know I've argued with the ENCE CEO on twitter and told him myself aleksiB roster move killed his Organization. Allu had to come out and say it for them to believe it?
2020-12-17 16:54
1 reply
I also had an argument with the chairman of the board of ENCE after aleksib kick and the f*t f*ck would not admit wrongdoing telling me "we are professionals here". Where is he hiding now eh?
2020-12-18 09:30
allu the two-faced snake?
2020-12-17 21:19
4 replies
There is a rumour that allu has called to a finnish player mid pracc and asked him to join ence because "these guys don't know anything and sucks ass"
2020-12-17 23:11
3 replies
lol this is next level toxicity
2020-12-18 08:59
And he did this before the fucking semis at the major. Inexcusable.
2020-12-18 09:37
1 reply
+1
2020-12-18 18:11
Bot Allu, doing bot things?
2020-12-18 09:26
#243
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Brazil wololo10
Oh yes Karma <3
2020-12-18 14:38
lmao snake bot allu ruined the finish scene
2020-12-18 17:08
ez for ence ence ence
2020-12-22 18:32
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