[VOD] Talking OG's plateau and IEM Katowice groups with guest Aleksib

The in-game leader of OG joins the show live on Twitch at 20:00 to talk about recent results and criticism.

The European team that reached their peak world ranking of #6 at the turn of the year recorded underwhelming results at the first tournaments of 2021, most recently exiting IEM Katowice 2021 in 13-16th place.

To hear about what caused OG's slump and how the team plans to get out of it, HLTV Confirmed S5E28 will feature the Finnish caller Aleksi "⁠Aleksib⁠" Virolainen.

Aleksib will feature on HLTV Confirmed for the first time

Alongside Aleksib, the show will feature Chad "⁠SPUNJ⁠" Burchill and Milan "⁠Striker⁠" Švejda, who will break down the recent news and talk about other IEM Katowice results, such as the CIS-heavy playoff bracket and Liquid's revival.

Topic list:

Hot seat with Aleksib
-Reaching #6 in the world (IEM NY, Flashpoint 2)
-Player break and preparations
-2021 slump (summit, BLAST, Katowice)
-What is holding OG back?
Recent news
-suNny leaves ENCE, new project coming?
-Omaken acquires Heroic
-apEX returns to Vitality roster
IEM Katowice
-Play-in: mouz & NiP advance, C9 & Col falter
-CIS teams continue to impress
-Liquid to semis with FalleN's calling
-Astralis in playoffs, Bubzkji out of the picture?
-FaZe's first impression with karrigan
-How will the playoffs go?
Playtime
-Viewer questions and leftover topics

Keep track of the show on social media:

HLTV.org on Twitch
HLTV Confirmed on Twitter
HLTV Confirmed on Youtube
HLTV Confirmed Audio

Australia Chad 'SPUNJ' Burchill
Chad 'SPUNJ' Burchill
Age:
31
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.87
Maps played:
158
KPR:
0.62
DPR:
0.73
Czech Republic Milan 'Striker' Švejda
Milan 'Striker' Švejda
Age:
-
Rating 1.0:
1.30
Maps played:
11
KPR:
0.90
DPR:
0.64
Finland Aleksi 'Aleksib' Virolainen
Aleksi 'Aleksib' Virolainen
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.97
Maps played:
855
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.66
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#1
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United States ShawnM
oh yes
2021-02-22 17:10
25 replies
-issaa +sergej -nbk +me
2021-02-22 17:11
24 replies
I've been saying this for a year but ppl kept finding excuses for issaa like bad ping, etc etc
2021-02-22 17:16
11 replies
yea, also its not like he is s1mple when he has small ping also if it really was that big of a problem he couldve lived somewhere in EU when he and woxic were playing for HR they were living in kyiv i think so i dont think he cares about his ping
2021-02-22 17:18
10 replies
#23
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United Kingdom novaseer
to be fair, until very recently ISSAA had travel issues and he still puts up rating above 1.0 on average despite his ping
2021-02-22 17:35
You realize theres a pandemic and all that follows? Do you live inside your room? And hes from jordan trying to live in EU while everyone in the EU is under lockdown?!
2021-02-22 18:13
7 replies
and xantares is from turkey
2021-02-22 18:39
6 replies
Xantares moved prior to the pandemic what is your point exactly?
2021-02-22 22:28
5 replies
jks too ? liquid too ? eg too ? furia too ?
2021-02-22 23:14
4 replies
3/4 of them are in serbia which anyone could of entered
2021-02-22 23:22
Are they from Turkey? Are they (aside from jks) staying permanently?
2021-02-22 23:43
2 replies
dude if he wanted, he couldve moved, thats my point there are flights in the middle of pandemic, everything is possible OG n0tail has 20 floor mansion maybe he has a private jet and could help issaa out ?
2021-02-22 23:49
1 reply
It's not really that simple. Traveling, yes, but work Visas needed to maintain residence aren't typically as easy to get. Especially during a pandemic. It also depends on where you are from, since some countries are less likely to be turned down than others. Turkey has issues with visas, I imagine Jordan may as well. I asked about Turkey earlier but I forgot Xantares is from there, but Issa is from Jordan.
2021-02-23 03:03
No-one else is s1mple than s1mple even if they have 0 ping
2021-02-23 10:19
#14
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Romania SanitySP
sergej in military. I wish you could get him but you cant rn
2021-02-22 17:18
11 replies
finns said best case scenario it only takes between 6 to 12 months to complete it so he could be available again by summer
2021-02-22 17:28
10 replies
#21
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Romania SanitySP
oh nice but still a few months away
2021-02-22 17:28
3 replies
The majority stays 8 months though, if he didnt get a desk service. We have the same in sweden except only certain yearly generations gets it.
2021-02-22 18:20
2 replies
#39
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Romania SanitySP
ok thanks for educating me
2021-02-22 18:26
#44
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Finland Anslebus
Yeah, the majority goes through roughly 8 months average. 6, 9 and 12 months are the options. :)
2021-02-22 18:55
If he has any plans to continue his CSGO career he will be out in the summer.
2021-02-22 17:50
5 replies
I believe he replied to sunnys tweet some time back that he will be serving full year :(
2021-02-22 18:01
#40
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United Kingdom ulan
idk why he wouldn't want to ,still very young guy
2021-02-22 18:26
3 replies
#65
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Finland OGx
Bars more fun
2021-02-22 19:50
Maybe he just completely lost his passion for this? Well if I had skills I'd probably still play even if it wasnt so enjoyable, just for the money lol xD
2021-02-22 20:15
Maybe someone hinted him or he himself realized, he is/was on the trajectory of growing into a moody spoiled adult-brat unappreciative of his privilege of earning big money by playing computer games and not having worked a real labor ever in his young life...
2021-02-23 14:09
Let's go
2021-02-22 17:10
ez for og og og og dens putted upperbelt putted upperbelt
2021-02-22 17:11
Nice, straight after Sunny's interview in Urheilucast too
2021-02-22 17:11
5 replies
Should I listen to that? Was there anything juicy?
2021-02-22 19:23
4 replies
#54
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Finland OGx
Would have popped up by now if there was anything juicy
2021-02-22 19:34
1 reply
Yeah, probably
2021-02-22 19:36
Nothing ground breaking really. Sunny tells about his past, future etc basic. Then they talked sometime about the roster chance in 2019 and the background and feelings then vs now and when did Sunny know something isnt right and what went wrong etc
2021-02-22 19:40
1 reply
Thanks
2021-02-22 19:41
Lost to a team that had a week of practice
2021-02-22 17:11
7 replies
#12
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Finland OGx
And
2021-02-22 17:18
5 replies
#15
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Romania SanitySP
Twistzz
2021-02-22 17:19
That’s terrible. Like, insanely bad.
2021-02-22 18:06
3 replies
#49
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Finland Lindeni
Yeah, it's like, you wouldn't know at all what they're going to do. Should be an easy prep against a team you know nothing about, right? Thank god HLTV has the answers.
2021-02-22 19:19
2 replies
Ironic that they're the only one to lose to them despite being so unpredictable
2021-02-22 19:42
1 reply
#125
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Finland Pegull
Bruh
2021-02-23 10:37
3 days*
2021-02-22 17:49
Poggies
2021-02-22 17:13
finally we can hear
2021-02-22 17:15
moment of truth?
2021-02-22 17:18
nice
2021-02-22 17:20
#17
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Indonesia woooi15
+ropzicle
2021-02-22 17:20
Thorin was right
2021-02-22 17:20
#19
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CIS kryto203
Isnt title supposed to have "on HLTV Confirmed" in it?
2021-02-22 17:22
1 reply
sorry this info not confirmed
2021-02-23 09:43
#22
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Looking forward to this. Really interesting to hear what his reasoning would be as to why OG haven't had much success cause in my views, there are too many of them. Been a year so far yet they still struggle on their own map pick, they save alot and don't risk retakes. No consistent star player, not a single boot camp either yet.
2021-02-22 17:33
This team is living inside their own bubble. Far from reality
2021-02-22 17:35
Aleksi great igl, with some real players they are tier 1 for sure, not with these bots tho
2021-02-22 17:46
22 replies
Imo OG should rebuild with aleksib and valde.
2021-02-22 17:53
21 replies
#31
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Estonia Sn4pzhat
And Mantuu. Idk why anyone randomly hates Mantuu.
2021-02-22 18:01
19 replies
#45
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Sweden boyyscout
because he is garbage
2021-02-22 18:58
18 replies
#46
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Estonia Sn4pzhat
you what. He was the 8th best 2.0 rated player in top 20. He has had 2 shit tourneys and now lets bench him. Fuck off. He is great, i guess his injury is bigger atm or idk
2021-02-22 19:01
17 replies
mantuu did very well in 2020, but not at the level where he would be a good awper for a top3 team sadly. In all the big games of big events against tier 1 teams he was fairly underwhelming. He was still impressive, but not necessarily an awper that you would build a major contender team with. Aleksib and valde are such players and OG has no one else like that atm.
2021-02-22 19:59
Stop looking at the stats so much. His game awareness is so shit it loses bunch of rounds.
2021-02-22 20:14
13 replies
#73
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Estonia Sn4pzhat
yeah but he is good and you know it damn well.
2021-02-22 20:35
12 replies
Def not good enough if OG wants to aim for top 5.
2021-02-22 21:41
11 replies
#80
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Estonia Sn4pzhat
Who would you get instead then Twoxic,whoya?
2021-02-22 21:47
10 replies
Atm options are very limited. As a player woxic is better, but he seems to have some sort of attitude problems. Most really good awpers are already in better teams than OG, so no buyout potential.
2021-02-22 22:27
9 replies
Maybe they should add oBo and sunny, give mantuu some time to prove himself for a spot on the roster. To me this sounds like a very good team
2021-02-23 02:04
5 replies
Tbh I've lost faith in sunny but maybe he proves me wrong. He hasnt done anything worthy after mousesports.
2021-02-23 02:22
4 replies
But he was soo good in mouz, i believe he can do it again, he just had a really mentally tough period in that terrible team
2021-02-23 02:26
3 replies
#106
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United Kingdom craZy_y0
agreed
2021-02-23 04:32
Maybe you're right. I'm usually very critical towards finnish players for some reason. Like I hope them to succeed but I just always see the bad sides.
2021-02-23 13:23
1 reply
i feel you, its the same for me toward serbian players :D
2021-02-23 16:22
#111
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Estonia Sn4pzhat
mantuu is inconsistent, on a good day/game/map he is a top 10 player on a bad day he is not that great. Saddly he hasnt started the year off so well.
2021-02-23 08:42
2 replies
I mean yeah he still has potential to improve I think. Maybe in this current situation its best decision to still keep him, but if he's not improving they should keep an eye out for better options.
2021-02-23 13:20
1 reply
#133
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Estonia Sn4pzhat
yeah but imo he is not essential to change. Lets hope the situation gets better in Jordan and they get to go to Lisbon
2021-02-23 13:28
mantuu did not good against top teams. he got his stats elsewhere.
2021-02-23 09:44
1 reply
#123
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Estonia Sn4pzhat
they didnt play a lot of t2 in 2020
2021-02-23 10:35
+1, also MAYBE mantuu but im not really high on him
2021-02-23 02:02
So they lost to Vitality and Faze and now they are in a slump? haha so dumb.
2021-02-22 17:54
13 replies
#47
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Latvia FieryBlood
They are dude, don't be delusional
2021-02-22 19:08
12 replies
so if Na'vi or Astralis loses their next game they are in a slump as well
2021-02-22 19:31
11 replies
#53
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Finland OGx
OG is in a slump right now
2021-02-22 19:32
10 replies
2 games losing streak slump?
2021-02-22 19:37
9 replies
#58
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Finland OGx
Look at their last 4 event results (-steelseries) Doesn't look that good man
2021-02-22 19:40
#61
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Russia ADisAsstah
autumn series flop, kato flop, spring flop, summit 7 flop, not winning FP against team they beat with no significant problems a week ago? I'd say something broke, yeah, or never was working
2021-02-22 19:46
7 replies
OG is not a title contender imo. You shouldn't expect them to win anything.
2021-02-22 20:04
6 replies
Recent events: -IEM Katowice 13-16th (out of 16 teams) -Blast premier spring groups 10-12th (out of 12 teams) -cs_summit 5-8th out of 12 teams Not expecting them to be title contenders but at least some results would would be nice. Placing last in almost every event is not a good look.
2021-02-22 20:39
1 reply
jepjep is delusional
2021-02-22 21:25
What a cope
2021-02-22 22:08
1 reply
#105
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United Kingdom craZy_y0
hes right
2021-02-23 04:32
Well obviously, they aren't. But this is not the level they are going for. This is not the level of a team with this budget.
2021-02-23 13:59
1 reply
Overpaid roster then.
2021-02-23 15:01
#32
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Estonia Sn4pzhat
On blast and om summit sth was missing aswell.
2021-02-22 18:02
#34
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Yugoslavia RiggedShit
Issaa is not the star player what og was looking for they need to find more firepower
2021-02-22 18:06
1 reply
+1 valde has taken that role, and mantuu is up there but too inconsistent. And nbk is their support
2021-02-22 18:23
bonc
2021-02-22 18:24
#42
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Finland Fraereator
bench aleksiBOT again
2021-02-22 18:43
1 reply
#107
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Finland Veeti777
Yes that went well last time
2021-02-23 06:05
No prof today :(
2021-02-22 18:47
#50
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United States PP_Bizon
no prof today?
2021-02-22 19:20
2 replies
#62
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Russia ADisAsstah
his twitter said he feels sick
2021-02-22 19:46
1 reply
#63
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United States PP_Bizon
rip how am I supposed to do my hltv confirmed bingo now
2021-02-22 19:48
It's not a slump. It's just their normal level. ISSA is not a star player, mantuuu is not doing enough with his awp and aleksib hasnt proved that he has enough to bring to the table as IGL. With the level of competition we'll see this year I can totally see them drop out of top20 at some point.
2021-02-22 19:49
25 replies
Agree with everything except the part of aleksib. He brought these (”trash”) players to the #6 team in the world. I think that says a lot about his leadership abilities, doesnt it?
2021-02-22 22:57
24 replies
#104
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United Kingdom craZy_y0
not rly
2021-02-23 04:31
23 replies
#108
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Finland Veeti777
He has leaded 2 different teams with shit players and other team peeked top 3 and this was top 6. And he is still young. You are just hater if u say he is bad.
2021-02-23 06:08
22 replies
i think ence peaked 2nd actually?
2021-02-23 09:46
1 reply
They did
2021-02-23 14:00
This and #116
2021-02-23 09:48
Fluking 2-3 tournaments can get you up there, but the fact that they stayed there for just few months, and than started losing and losing and losing which was the reason he got kicked in the first place, proves that you are wrong. Same here...few decent results gets you ranking, but they dont have ANY good results actually. Its just a matter of time before changes begin to happen before he himself eventually gets kicked.
2021-02-23 10:27
18 replies
"started losing and losing and losing which was the reason he got kicked in the first place" Lmao, funny. Look back at the timeline again, I think you remember it very wrong. Just to refresh your mind a bit they were top 3 when he got benched and had good results in past few tournaments. After he got benched was when the real downfall of Ence started and they went from top 3 to top 30 and then disband. Theres a good reason why everyone that knows anything about CS consider Aleksib a good IGL.
2021-02-23 14:12
17 replies
Sure thats why noone took him for months rofl. And no, I remember it well, they were on a downfall anyway thats why he got replaced.
2021-02-23 14:32
16 replies
#143
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Finland Veeti777
Name
2021-02-23 17:08
Lmao, he got a lot of offers. He was offered the complexity captain role before blamef for example, but he declined it. No need to jump in the first team that makes you an offer when you have a lot of options that require time to consider.
2021-02-23 17:43
14 replies
Yeah sure he didnt take 30k a month so he decided to take 10k a month in a even worse team rofl
2021-02-23 18:34
13 replies
Pretty sure the articles are still available, just use google. Yes, he was offered 1 million deal, same as blamef. You dont know how much he makes in OG, but its pretty certain he gets big bucks otherwise he wouldn't have turned down complexity. E: talkesport.com/news/aleksib-turned-down-.. Here, made it easier for you.
2021-02-23 22:53
12 replies
Was always a loser and will stay loser. Doubt he is even a guy with that hair rofl. Girly girl
2021-02-23 23:50
11 replies
Good arguments dude. Almost related to CS.
2021-02-23 23:54
10 replies
Ended up last at Cologne 2019 and than failed at Major Berlin aswell. Great results at 2 biggest tournaments in the year. Then he got kicked. Enough facts for you iceman?
2021-02-24 00:05
9 replies
He got kicked before the major. If you think a team would perform well in those circumstances, you're an idiot. Just imagine the athmosphere inside the team. They still reached playoffs. Cologne was a bad event, thats true, but happens to every good team. So far you got debunked in everything, still going?
2021-02-24 00:21
8 replies
I am debunked while you admitted they ended up dead LAST in Cologne and ended up being kicked while you said "they hat great results before he got kicked" hahaha dude are you ok? They even failed on summit rofl
2021-02-24 00:30
7 replies
Yeah because losing 2-1 with OT decider against vitality who won the tournament is such a "fail". Are you ok?
2021-02-24 00:36
6 replies
LAST place dude when ranked 2nd or 3rd...deserved to get kicked
2021-02-24 01:57
5 replies
Lmao good joke. Happens to every team ecery now and then.
2021-02-24 10:41
4 replies
Nt aleksi. Go play with ice now you crygirl that got kicked
2021-02-24 12:14
3 replies
You havent made a single good point so far, so gl in life. Name checks out tho.
2021-02-24 12:41
2 replies
Yeag cuz placing last isnt a good r3ason and point. Your expert opinion is important. Hahahaahah iceman
2021-02-24 13:11
1 reply
You can go and check Astralis, vitality, na'vi, fnatic, liquid, faze etc. and ALL of them, every single one, have a tournament like that. Especially in their early stages of success. So, its not a good point at all.
2021-02-24 13:21
POGGERS
2021-02-22 19:59
Twitch garbage!
2021-02-22 20:10
1 reply
#92
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Australia Zilox
+1
2021-02-23 00:43
#72
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India icle
I wouldn't take everything what @AleksibCSGO said/says as granted. He isn't as beautiful and sexy persona as it may look. Kiitos
2021-02-22 20:21
4 replies
What does nbk mean with that?
2021-02-23 02:34
3 replies
Its a joke probably.
2021-02-23 06:24
#110
ropz | 
India icle
2021-02-23 08:00
1 reply
Thanks i was thinking about that but wasnt 100% sure :D
2021-02-23 12:48
#75
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Portugal dixy234
Aleksib is so well spoken, props to him
2021-02-22 21:04
1 reply
Nordic education, what do you expect?
2021-02-22 22:26
Where is Topson?
2021-02-22 21:05
-issa +sunny
2021-02-22 22:14
#91
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Australia Zilox
Pls upload it to youtube faster if its possible, The show starts at 5am in Australia and Twitch VODs are bad, I love the show! If its a logistics problem, all g!
2021-02-23 00:42
1 reply
I think they once mentioned that due to contract obligations with Twitch they have to wait 1-2 days before they can upload it on YouTube/Spotify
2021-02-23 11:46
#94
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Denmark BrazmalDik
Guys... I don't have time to watch that.. So can someone summarize aleksib answer to the questions?
2021-02-23 01:31
5 replies
#113
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Estonia Sn4pzhat
TLDR; Issaa cant travel to Portugal so he will keep playing from Jordan. They wont make a change at the moment. He compared the situations to 144hz (in home) and 240 hz (on lan). He said that if LANs come back ISSAA can show his full potential, BUT he said that there are problems with his ping. If covid stays for long i guess he will be benched. But atm nothing will change. Also this. twitter.com/HLTVconfirmed/status/1363932..
2021-02-23 08:55
4 replies
haha
2021-02-23 09:49
3 replies
#124
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Estonia Sn4pzhat
haha?
2021-02-23 10:35
2 replies
"It doesn't take anything else but to headshot individually" my thoughts exactly on why I'm still in silver
2021-02-23 10:55
1 reply
#127
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Estonia Sn4pzhat
relatable :(
2021-02-23 10:57
was nice
2021-02-23 01:51
Alexib is an awesome guy, ENCE really made a huge mistake.
2021-02-23 03:32
#103
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United Kingdom craZy_y0
aleksigod
2021-02-23 04:31
I KNOW IN FACT (c) Aleksi
2021-02-23 08:44
Ingame bot more than leader
2021-02-23 10:23
Aleksi two faced toledo
2021-02-23 10:23
Can this be streamed through youtube please? So much better and you can rewind while live if you missed a bit.
2021-02-23 11:56
1 reply
go to twitch, i just watch the parts im interested in
2021-02-23 14:08
When is it gonna go live on yt?
2021-02-23 15:23
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