Aleksib on OG's situation: "We're having a lot of discussions"

The Finnish in-game leader joined the latest episode of 'HLTV Confirmed' after OG bombed out of IEM Katowice, and discussed the team's slump in form.

OG, the 12th best team of 2020, have been gradually slipping down the world rankings following a rough start to the year. The international squad crashed out of cs_summit 7 in 5th-8th place, lost two series in the BLAST Premier Spring Groups and were among the first teams to be knocked out of IEM Katowice.

Aleksi "⁠Aleksib⁠" Virolainen appeared on Monday as a guest in the 'HLTV Confirmed' podcast and discussed whether OG are considering the sort of changes that pundits like Janko "⁠YNk⁠" Paunović and Duncan "⁠Thorin⁠" Shields have deemed inevitable.

Aleksib said the team are having discussions after the IEM Katowice exit

"We haven't thought about it too much," Aleksib said on the possibility of adding a sixth player. "We are having individual talks, team talks, every kind of talk (laughs). But the thing is that we just bombed out of a tournament that we had high hopes for and that we had practiced really hard for. So right now, we have a period when we are having a lot of discussions. I don't have exact answers, but all I'm saying is that we are discussing to figure things out."

OG's team members have been playing all tournaments from home during the COVID-19 pandemic, with Issa "⁠ISSAA⁠" Murad the most affected by the current conditions as he constantly has to deal with high ping. Even if the team decided to make use of OG's gaming house, located in Lisbon, the Jordanian would not be able to go.

"Anything he [ISSAA] tries to do, when it comes to internet issues, when it comes to a visa if we're thinking of having a bootcamp, is a problem, everything is super hard because of where he lives," Aleksib explained. "Usually, in our games, everybody has between 30-50 ping, while ISSAA has 80 or 90. It's so hard because you don't know how long this COVID period is going to be and I know for a fact that ISSAA is like a 'glue' on LAN, he brings a lot of hype and he shoots better. We think this online period has brought ISSAA down quite a bit, and that's really unfortunate.

"Today, the embassy said that ISSAA can't travel to Lisbon, no matter what. Even if he had the visa right now, he couldn't travel. So we have to think of something else, and that's again having to take a step back, but we'll have to figure something as a team."

OG's lineup has been the same since the organisation entered Counter-Strike in December 2019. Last year, the team twice came close to glory, in IEM New York and Flashpoint 2, before losing in the grand final to FaZe and Virtus.pro.

For Aleksib, the lack of silverware isn't caused by strategic limitations. He believes that the team can contend for more championships once the players step up individually.

"Honestly, I think that the only thing that it takes is for us to get headshots because we have been a team for 14 months right now and our playbook is really deep," he said. "The number of scenarios we have been through, the rules we have in place, or the decisions we made when we take control of the map, everything is so detailed. We have so much, more than enough to win something, in my opinion. I feel like we have more than when I was in ENCE, and we won something with ENCE."

Moving on to ENCE, Aleksib commented on the organisation's move to build an international roster with only two Finnish players, Aleksi "⁠allu⁠" Jalli and Joonas "⁠doto⁠" Forss. For the OG captain, who played for ENCE for almost two years in two spells between 2016 and 2019, the issues in the team affected the rebuilding process and forced the organisation to look abroad for talent for the first time in the organisation's history.

"It was kind of a downhill battle for them, everyone battling with mental issues, where you're getting shitty messages all around, every player is feeling like shit, and all the rumours are going around," he said. "They couldn't steer the ship in a better direction and all the players started dropping drop from left to right. All of these things combined, I don't think it gives the best impression to anyone, right? ENCE most likely didn't contact every Finnish player, it was a handful of players, I may be wrong on some people, but I know for a fact that some didn't want to join them and I think it's just based on everything that happened."

You can access the full VOD of Monday's episode of 'HLTV Confirmed' below.

Jordan Issa 'ISSAA' Murad
Issa 'ISSAA' Murad
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
791
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.65
United Kingdom Duncan 'Thorin' Shields
Duncan 'Thorin' Shields
Age:
-
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.00
Maps played:
0
KPR:
0.00
DPR:
0.00
Serbia Janko 'YNk' Paunović
Janko 'YNk' Paunović
Age:
28
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.97
Maps played:
117
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.70
Finland Aleksi 'allu' Jalli
Aleksi 'allu' Jalli
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
1550
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.64
Finland Aleksi 'Aleksib' Virolainen
Aleksi 'Aleksib' Virolainen
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.97
Maps played:
855
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.66
Finland Joonas 'doto' Forss
Joonas 'doto' Forss
Age:
25
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
462
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.68
Nice
2021-02-23 20:04
1 reply
aleksib is the 1# player of Finland all the time, maybe not skillwise but he bring more impact to team success with his IGL and strategy and tactics than any finnish player with their individual skills he is 10x smarter than lurppis or any other IGL was in ever was, he was reason why ENCE even was in top he can bring even top40-50 team to top10 just with his insane and magical ingame leading and tactics & strategy skills
2021-02-25 23:06
nice
2021-02-23 20:04
7 replies
What to say, other than nice?
2021-02-23 20:04
5 replies
NOICE
2021-02-23 20:10
#57
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Turkey ZaTaa
NAICE
2021-02-23 20:42
#120
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Finland Hietsu
OMEGANICE
2021-02-23 23:08
PogChamp (the based one, not one of the disgusting spin offs)
2021-02-24 00:48
#185
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Germany den7
very nice
2021-02-24 08:20
#186
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Czech Republic xANUx
Poggers
2021-02-24 08:21
-issaa +ropz
2021-02-23 20:05
29 replies
+1
2021-02-23 20:06
i kinda have a feeling exactly that will happen soon
2021-02-23 20:12
I would love this move!
2021-02-23 20:20
#33
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United States weaboo
LUL ropz won’t join trash OG
2021-02-23 20:24
11 replies
but he isn't happy with mouz either, so what do you suggest
2021-02-23 20:46
9 replies
He shouldn't be. The new mouz lineup will take ages to get back to top level without Chris/a proper awper and Karrigan
2021-02-23 21:16
8 replies
i know he shouldn't be but he is
2021-02-23 21:31
7 replies
I think you didn't get my point. Said " He shouldn't be ( happy with mouz, as he has to solo carry them most of the time ) " They should either build a legit project around him or he should leave this team. His talent will be wasted in this tier 1.5 elo hell.
2021-02-23 21:34
6 replies
ohh i didn't understand, but yeah i agree
2021-02-23 21:35
#163
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Finland Veeti777
Did u know that u cant just ”leave” from the team when u have signed contract
2021-02-24 00:46
1 reply
That's the reason he is in trouble now, especially since he is one of the top 5 MVP in the world atm. They won't let him go without a massive buy out. He shouldn't have re-signed/extended his contract until they clarified what their project around him was.
2021-02-24 12:26
Kinda true, but the project has potential and its not like ropz is stopping anytime soon
2021-02-24 00:55
#219
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Philippines sijibats
ropz is the second NiKo
2021-02-25 07:07
1 reply
He is better than NiKo and will most likely rank in front of him soon ( 2021 ? )
2021-02-25 14:50
lol mouz is pretty much done right now
2021-02-24 09:32
Ropz doesn't want to ruin his career
2021-02-23 20:24
11 replies
i know but he isn't happy with mouz either, so what do you suggest
2021-02-23 20:45
10 replies
fpx? or maybe new estonian-swedish team? (supra,lekro,ropz,hs,twist) or even fix mouz
2021-02-23 23:10
9 replies
#179
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Europe X1gma
OG is better than any of these options
2021-02-24 05:24
8 replies
I guarantee you that even nordavind could beat dOG right now
2021-02-24 05:55
5 replies
#183
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Europe X1gma
Not with Ropz in it :)
2021-02-24 07:58
4 replies
Ropz would hard carry NVD, even more than he is in Mouz
2021-02-24 14:45
3 replies
#212
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Europe X1gma
nt. CS is a team game. Ropz will bloom under Aleksib's leadership.
2021-02-24 18:48
2 replies
LOL He has already "bloomed" a long time ago. He has been one of the best in the world for three years now, improving each year... He is arguably the strongest " pro from FPL " ever, aside from ZywOo
2021-02-25 14:52
1 reply
#229
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Europe X1gma
nt. Every Pro talent gets multiplied by 5 times when he plays under Aleksib.
2021-02-25 18:01
+1
2021-02-24 05:56
1 reply
-1
2021-02-24 14:45
+1
2021-02-24 00:06
yes
2021-02-24 09:20
#8
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxyownz
why don't they just listen to HLTV forums?
2021-02-23 20:05
13 replies
#16
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Ukraine W1ldHunt
+1
2021-02-23 20:07
HLTV forum? The worst place to get advice due to toxic behavior... Every match you see poppin' at least 1 thread "Fix this team" or something like this... The funniest part is you really don't want to understand the issue ISSAA got with his ping...
2021-02-23 20:31
11 replies
#42
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxyownz
HLTV knows best
2021-02-23 20:34
1 reply
0/9
2021-02-23 20:43
The joke -------------------------------- > ^ You ------->
2021-02-23 20:35
5 replies
#77
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Latvia FieryBlood
r/wooosh amirite guys? hahaha Edit: Thank you for the gold, kind stranger! Edit2: Holy cow this exploded!! My most liked coment on this website
2021-02-23 21:19
2 replies
#89
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Russia xtkjdtr001
hehe
2021-02-23 21:36
#147
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Slovakia Daev0n
reddit users.. you guys are in the same tier as discord users
2021-02-24 00:26
Ah sorry, you forget to put the "lol" in your message :)
2021-02-23 21:37
1 reply
It wasnt me but ok
2021-02-23 23:16
High ping doesn’t explain the shit fundamentals OG showed all tournament
2021-02-24 02:11
#213
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Europe AlL1n
Isen't ping advantege? I usually saw some ruski with 150 ping top scoring in mm and faceit. So I assume batter ping=less skill.
2021-02-24 21:41
1 reply
Ofc MM and FaceIT are the same as top 30 world game...
2021-02-25 00:33
#9
ceh9 | 
World mukas17
kick issaa ez top 5
2021-02-23 20:05
1 reply
#187
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Czech Republic xANUx
Explosive younger, that doesnt talk over Aleksib calling would be a nice change, buuuut, if Astralis is gonna release bubz or mous will release ropz, i say go for it
2021-02-24 08:24
#10
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United Kingdom LeMonkke
maybe just get someone to sub issaa until he can move.
2021-02-23 20:06
2 replies
#18
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Finland Khroni
+1 best option issa could still be amazing on lan, but until then they can get some mechanically strong player from fpl even just for a few months and give them some experience and get the firepower they need back for the rest of online
2021-02-23 20:08
This basically. Now its just a matter of whether OG want to pay the substitue salary or truly hire a 6th man.
2021-02-24 03:00
-issaa +michu incoming
2021-02-23 20:07
3 replies
Wouldn't be a bad move. I don't think they would massively improve in the rankings, but having a reliable aimer like MICHU to anchor those A sites and be able to trade frag consistently is already a massive upgrade.
2021-02-23 20:45
hope so
2021-02-23 22:46
pls god
2021-02-24 00:37
nice
2021-02-23 20:07
-issaa +floppy
2021-02-23 20:07
1 reply
#149
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Slovakia Daev0n
why would they downgrade?
2021-02-24 00:27
-issa +ropz
2021-02-23 20:08
#20
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Hear me out. Get Fer as the 6th for the time being. Experienced and looking for a challenge. Yes he isn't motivated but in a right team, his great mechanical skill can still be utilized. Enough time in T1 scene that Aleksi won't have to micromanage him alot either. Keep Issa around till LANs are back, he surely will be at his best there.
2021-02-23 20:09
15 replies
#66
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Italy ROMAG
Actually makes a Lot of sense as fuck getting hum as 6th during that online period. He is free agente, If he Join og he Will be hungry to Win, his rolê marches in t side with issaa
2021-02-23 20:55
1 reply
#151
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Pakistan LoOuU2
yes sir!
2021-02-24 00:31
#70
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Argentina Frannnnnnn
Didn't fer say that didn't want to speak in english?
2021-02-23 21:05
1 reply
#152
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Pakistan LoOuU2
i dont know anything about that.
2021-02-24 00:31
I think michu would be better option
2021-02-23 21:05
3 replies
#153
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Michu good , but not best.
2021-02-24 00:31
2 replies
JW best
2021-02-24 03:35
1 reply
#191
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Pakistan LoOuU2
My man
2021-02-24 09:30
fer is toxic AF, and has been awful lately. Also he thinks way too highly of himself.. Like it's still 2016 or 2017. Litterally a bad player to add to any top team, subpar tier 1 player with out of control ego and barely speaks english.
2021-02-23 21:18
2 replies
#156
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Pakistan LoOuU2
fer is toxic AF " , more like ignorant , which i agree with. has been awful lately" he was MIBR`s best player for a year or so and hasnt played since then so cant judge thinks way too highly of himself" again , ignorance which i agree he really is full of subpar tier 1 player" cant agree with that , still one of the best mechanical player in the scene. out of control ego" cant argue with that barely speaks english" speaks alot better than barely. Litterally a bad player to add to any top team" true if he staays the way he has been for some time but his interview on HLTV gave me some hope he might save and revive his career , especially after seeing how well Taco and Fallen have done. He can still be an asset to any team if he wills to grind again. The skill is still there.
2021-02-24 00:34
1 reply
Nowhere near one of the best mechanical players. Doesn't even care. Not sure about the english part nowadays so I'll give you that. Wasn't MIBR's clear cut best player at all for a LOOOOOONG while, Fallen was, and that's why he is rebounding. He could have had good stats but sure farmed them against lower rated teams too. My " subpar tier 1 " was voluntarily outrageous, but he is so far from his best level that's in my opinion justified to call him out on this. TDLR : could still be a worthy tier 1 top 10 player but only if he invests himself in a project AND gets his attitude in checks. There's a reason ( several in fact ) no team picked him up yet, not even BR teams... Skill not here, no motivation, a toxic and a bully with overinflated ego. The juice just isn't worth the squeeze at this point.
2021-02-24 12:24
fer is too racist to play with ISSAA
2021-02-23 23:39
1 reply
#157
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Pakistan LoOuU2
well he will be likely playing in place of ISSA so wont be playing with him , technically.
2021-02-24 00:35
#165
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Finland Veeti777
If it was 2017 it would be a good but fer was so bad at the end on mibr and they lost to tier 5 teams
2021-02-24 00:49
1 reply
#166
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Pakistan LoOuU2
It wasn't just Fer who lost to Tier 5 teams, it was the whole team crumbling down. And statistically, Fer was the best MIBR player last year.
2021-02-24 00:52
if ISSA gets dropped he will find a better team anyway once LAN comes back so please release him OG ;D
2021-02-23 20:13
3 replies
#99
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Poland grapeeeee
Issa is bad
2021-02-23 22:08
Better than rank 6? No, not even top 15. Issaa is bad
2021-02-23 23:57
>he believes in the lan meme LOL.
2021-02-24 02:26
floppy just followed Aleksib and NBK OG floppy confirmed
2021-02-23 20:13
1 reply
#150
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Slovakia Daev0n
would be a massive downgrade for OG
2021-02-24 00:29
Just fucking add Xizt
2021-02-23 20:13
#28
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Finland Jambi_
"I may be wrong on some people, but I know for a fact that some didn't want to join them and I think it's just based on everything that happened." Im guessing either (or both) uli or ottoND were asked to join ENCE
2021-02-23 20:14
6 replies
#37
smooya | 
Switzerland x676
uli? Who the heck is uli?
2021-02-23 20:27
3 replies
Samu ”uli” Leirilaakso
2021-02-23 20:44
2 replies
#76
smooya | 
Switzerland x676
LMAO, sure, a 23 y/o nonamer refused to join ENCE to stay in.. "KOVA" looooool
2021-02-23 21:18
1 reply
bad bait
2021-02-24 00:17
Hard to believe imo, they'd both been downgrades to players they actually got and international roster was what they wanted from the start. Could see them having wanted zehn or some havu players tho
2021-02-23 21:13
1 reply
#167
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Finland Veeti777
Im 100% sure they asked havu players to join (Slowi, zore) before saddyx joined and the team was still finnish.
2021-02-24 00:53
Don't need to kick ISSAA just build a 6 man roster and play with normal ping for now lol
2021-02-23 20:14
#47
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Sweden Dooozy
-Nbk
2021-02-23 20:36
-NBK -Valde -ISSAA -Mantuu +Aerial +xSeven +Sergej +allu
2021-02-23 20:38
2 replies
#98
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United Kingdom novaseer
as if aleksi will ever play with allu again lol also you missed coach -ruggah +twista
2021-02-23 22:03
1 reply
I didnt, twista got perma bans for valve events
2021-02-23 23:12
#51
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Germany Zackst3rz
racista
2021-02-23 20:38
#55
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Belarus likefnatic
+flusha + ropz = top5 hltv i think
2021-02-23 20:41
1 reply
But who do you outs ? Doesn't flusha want to be IGL too ? But clearly ropz is a top 5 player in my opinion and will be ranked there in 2021 if not higher, a GREAT addition to any team. And an inshape flusha is a monster and brings that clutch X factor too.
2021-02-23 21:12
#64
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Turkey RENNNDER
hltv = based why guys ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Portugal GOV is the reason why issaa playing high ping
2021-02-23 20:46
#68
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Portugal beatje
Get MICHU in, OG need an aggressive player
2021-02-23 20:57
The headline is bigger than what he actually said about it. LUL. Quality journalism by HLTV
2021-02-23 20:58
is there further info on that lisboa travel issue? i mean sure you will need more effort and money to travel atm but why and who should not let u in if you have visa?
2021-02-23 21:21
Why isn't ISSA living in eu already?
2021-02-23 21:23
1 reply
Visa problems but I'm sure he would relocate to EU after covid settles if he can get a visa...
2021-02-23 22:12
#83
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Greece RedWinter
-aleksib +sunny for firepower ez OG fix
2021-02-23 21:29
1 reply
#118
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Serbia LtN))
+1
2021-02-23 23:02
If they fuse with cloud9 they can be a decent team XD
2021-02-23 21:43
No offense but OG has been average since the start. Not sure what they are really expecting from this team. OG is more known for having Aleksib which was unceremoniously kicked from ENCE. Result-wise, they haven't accomplished nothing despite being together for a year.
2021-02-23 21:49
1 reply
#180
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Indonesia lukerey
No one really accomplished anything last year other than top 5 team. And OG was on #7 with 1 year line up. And this is only the beginning of this year. Chill.
2021-02-24 05:55
HLTV confirmed is a place where u go to fuck things up. Ence did it first with allu. And now OG. Or maybe its just the finnish who cant keep their mouth shut
2021-02-23 21:51
10 replies
#102
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Estonia Hoxpox
allu fucked up, but Aleksi didnt. He didnt shit on anyone or let his ego take control of his mouth. All aleksib did was confirm that ISSA does have ping issues playing online cs and he's unable to travel in this time.
2021-02-23 22:17
9 replies
Thorin has already released a video related to this. How issa should be kicked
2021-02-23 22:32
8 replies
#107
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Estonia Hoxpox
I watched his rant, but Thorin is malding all the time man. He's not stupid, but he gets way too into it in his videos. I wouldnt mind ISSA being kicked to try to get OG going, but who would OG bring in as an experienced replacement for him?
2021-02-23 22:45
4 replies
The thing is that aleksib talking about the issues just brings negative tension around the team and issa. Thorin might be malding, but he is planting seeds in peoples minds about this issue they are having. In my opinion - this is something that should have been kept inside team and dealt by team behind doors.
2021-02-23 22:49
2 replies
#113
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Estonia Hoxpox
Aleksib is talking about Issa's ping issue, which everybody who follows pro CS knew about already. Thats not the same as washing your dirty laundry openly as allu did in the podcast. Thorin does what Thorin does. If he stated that issa is a bad teammate, who interrupts comms, then thats his statement, not Aleksis.
2021-02-23 22:53
1 reply
Ok. Bb issa
2021-02-23 22:55
#170
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Brazil Fauchard
+taco or bolts
2021-02-24 01:03
But thorins video was released before this hltv confirmed episode, so whats your point exactly?
2021-02-23 23:47
1 reply
even if so, still its not smart to go on a podcast and admit that there are problems within the team. Whatever chance they had on fixing the problems within the team now is gone.
2021-02-24 08:18
thorin's video was released before the hltv confirmed episode genius
2021-02-24 00:40
Aleksi shouldn't comment the team he has not been part long time. He should appreaciate it, without Allu and Ence AleksiB wouldn't be nothing .
2021-02-23 22:19
6 replies
#112
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Estonia Hoxpox
Without Aleksi, allu and Ence wouldnt have had their run as well. + he didnt say anything negative or disrespectful, all he did was confirm the facts that the community already knew. Nothing wrong with having a conversation
2021-02-23 22:49
Elämämkoulu?
2021-02-23 23:43
4 replies
Onko Kelan tuet jo tipahtaneet? *elämänkoulu
2021-02-24 09:23
3 replies
Learn some english amis/elämämkoululainen. If you understood even some english you'd know that Aleksib didnt shit talk Ence AT ALL in that podcast. As what comes to appreciation it goes both ways. Ence would still be that small finnish tier 5 org if it wasnt for the huge peak of success Aleksib brought them. Aleksib was the face of Ence and the most important player in the lineup. We all know what happened to them the moment they kicked him. Aleksib surely appreciates Ence for giving him the opportunity and he's said that many times.
2021-02-24 10:53
2 replies
1 reply
Ok, how is this related..?
2021-02-25 20:10
6th man roster I think would be the best option if ISSAA is really up for it and taking a bit of time to practice on his own, I think once the LAN returns he would be a beast with a break and FINALLY being able to play without any handicaps and with a lot of practice in the bag, it would be such a huge mental boost for himself when he finally returns. But he must be okay with it himself, ideally it would be his own suggestion during the talking within the team that he'd willing to take a break until LANs are back for the sake of the team and himself to have a bit of a break and time to practice until he returns. From a mental health standpoint it does make a whole lot of sense currently. I understand OG isn't very reluctant to let ISSAA go because of his ping issue and all the issues with his restrictions from his country, would feel very bad as he was a big part of the success in boosting the mental side on LANs last year. Would feel awful to kick someone in a time like this without giving him a proper chance.
2021-02-23 22:41
1 reply
#109
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Estonia Hoxpox
I'm not usually a +1 guy, but +1. Well said.
2021-02-23 22:46
#106
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Netherlands H34T0N
I am getting more respect for this kid each day. He deserves some gold and he will for sure win a major.
2021-02-23 22:36
Sad to see them go through this, awesome team. Alexib is a fantastic leader, like a Daps on steroids, that clearly wants to show respect for his teammates. Maybe ISSAA can stay as a sixth for now...
2021-02-23 22:49
Sad, he didnt seem like open to roster changes at all. Its not like they can magically gain firepower. Like it just doesnt happen.
2021-02-23 23:01
10 replies
-Aleksib +suNny for more firepower soon
2021-02-23 23:30
1 reply
Fun incoming xD
2021-02-25 14:56
That is something OG as an org doesnt really do.
2021-02-24 00:09
7 replies
Kinda weird if they dont want a title contender team after that dota success. This team is never ever going to be one. Their firepower is lacking so much its insane. Peaking at top 6 was a miracle.
2021-02-24 00:32
6 replies
some problems with og: mantuu good player but like broky, baits way too much on T side, not enough impact on CT ISSAA bot NBK bot
2021-02-24 00:41
3 replies
Yes I know that.
2021-02-24 00:42
NBK isn't that bad tbh, for his role he is surprisingly decent ( and I hate NBK ) ISSAA on the other hand is nowhere near the star they need, and mantuu while decent is overrated and inconsistent AF. Broky is a LOT better and also seems to have way more potential/higher ceiling They should try to change one player only first, but they must go for a REAL star. ropz is, imo, the best player they could get provided they can afford him.
2021-02-25 14:58
1 reply
the dream is -nbk + ropz and - ISSAA + michu
2021-02-25 22:15
Yeah change is needed for sure. It's kinda hard to get olayers with experience now tho. What's the situation on sergej? Maybe he can get back to form if his IGL is Aleksi.
2021-02-24 09:50
1 reply
If he has any plans to continue his CS career he will be out of military on June 17th.
2021-02-24 10:56
just express air mail issa some koskenkorva he’ll be good in no time
2021-02-23 23:15
-issaa +ropz if they go 6man roster route, then get flameZ, that kid is insane.
2021-02-23 23:34
#128
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India rivervp
Aleksib is a top 5 IGL in the tier one scene, never forget that he took ence almost single handedly to 2019 Katowice major FINALS and to Rank 2 in the world rankings. Won Blast Madrid and couple of more finals appearance at tier one events in 2019. Also took OG to break into top 10 twice and peak at Rank 6 in the world rankings, alongwith two finals in tier one events within the first year of the entire org. If u doubt it, just see the state of ence once he was removed.
2021-02-23 23:38
-nbk - issaa. +ropz and +aggresive player. This team is lacking of firepower since day 1 and it was so obvious all the time.
2021-02-23 23:43
#141
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Finland H0rnPub
They've had this low firepower situation for so long, I'd rly want them to survive this as 5 but I have no faith anymore, cutting issaa is inevitable, not making roster move now and bombing out in epl just adds salt to fans wounds. Money isn't the problem and by upgrading one fragger they'll win trophies. Just bid on Ropz, if he wants to stay try Bubzki, if price 2 high for uncertainty go for Obo. I also think these are smarter players than issaa, who might bring NBKs performance down since it was confirmed he has to micromanage issaa too much.
2021-02-24 00:06
1 reply
+1 but Obo is a no-go for ISSAA's role
2021-02-24 02:03
#144
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Poland kaspr02
+michu
2021-02-24 00:14
I dunno... Is 80ms really that unplayable? More than likely issaa is just a hot or cold player whos been put into key situations on maps where u need a solid performer... Theres a high correlation of issaa having good individual perf and og getting 16 rounds. :()
2021-02-24 00:26
1 reply
It is pretty bad. Even in noob CS its a disadvantage and you dont get the kills you normally would. Now just think about what it is like in pro CS when you dont have any room for error to begin with. Its a problem, but even without that problem I dont think ISSAA is good enough.
2021-02-24 11:36
They tryhard iem and still getting styled by faze lul
2021-02-24 00:33
#158
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Japan chanse
OG never been in good form to begin with.
2021-02-24 00:36
replace arab internet and NBK and OG is gucci
2021-02-24 00:56
#171
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Ukraine felzcsgo
-issa +aizy
2021-02-24 01:04
1 reply
Aizy LOL
2021-02-24 10:38
#172
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Iceland caverat
just disband
2021-02-24 01:25
Just play the game, you know you have a great team - if OG keeps the current roster they will be Major legends, otherwise they will struggle to qualify.
2021-02-24 05:15
16 replies
Lol, are you out of your mind? They've already reached their ceiling with this level of players. No chance they will qualify to major with this lineup.
2021-02-24 11:38
15 replies
You're calling me "out of my mind" because I think that a lineup which has not even been able to practice together has not yet reached their performance peak. Yeah, sure, I'm the one out of my mind. This is a very potent team which can take maps from the #1 team on any given day. If that's not enough potential idk what is. I trust the leadership and structure of this team, so that makes it just a matter of time. The biggest disagreement I have with Thorin is that I think we have enough examples of teams improving massively after a year or more of being together to call it a real strategy.
2021-02-25 03:17
14 replies
Taking maps from #1 team isnt really good enough when you get destroyed in the other 2 and just barely can clinch that 1 map, if lucky. In terms of tactics they are already very good and theres not much to improve. Individual level of play is their problem and thats where there is huge amount of slack which is easily fixable. This is not something thats gonna get fixed with time. Mantuu is the only player that has potential to improve quite fast because he's still kinda new, but thats just 1 player and not enough. IF there was a team that would improve greatly after such a long time its not because of poor individual level gets corrected, its because their tactical play just starts to "click". Name me one team that had massive improvement after being together for over a year, cant think of any right now.
2021-02-25 11:49
13 replies
What exactly do you expect me to say when you just come out and write false statement after lie after lie And obviously the answer to your Q is Avangar, new VP, old VP, BiG, Sprout 2019 and so on. When their 'tactics' (you mean teamplay) starts to 'click' you see massive individual change in form.
2021-02-26 02:56
12 replies
Correct if wrong, but out of my memory none of those teams improved after a year without roster changes. Hell, I dont think any of them actually even had the same roster for a year. I mean the old old VP known as universal soldiers at first meet the criteria I think, but its not really relevant when the game was still young at that point. And how am I lying? If you watched their games you'd know that they lose even favourable duels with a very high percentage. This leads to inconsistency and loss most of the time. They are lacking pure firepower and certain players are lacking very much on the individual decisionmaking department.
2021-02-26 12:57
Ok, so I did my work and was correct. -Sprout in 2019 had 8 roster changes so idk what you on about. They were never good either. -BIG did a major roster change january 2020 and they've basically been good ever since. -Avangar, new VP I dont even know what you mean since VP bought avangar roster. During Avangar they made multiple roster changes yearly. And when they become VP they still made roster changes in 2020 that allowed them to be a bit better. But all this time they were actually a pretty good team and they were in major already as Avangar. So, can you actually name any team that improved significantly after over a year with no roster changes? And how about the false statements and lies...?
2021-02-26 13:51
10 replies
Nah what you're missing is that 2020 was not a year. We're clearly talking about density of lan events.
2021-02-26 16:13
9 replies
BIG also made changes in 2019. So did avangar/vp. Clearly you have been rekt and have no arguments left.
2021-02-26 16:15
8 replies
nono the point is your timeframe of a year is wrong to apply to OG. idk if I misremembered sprout but take them out and add forze, ez katka. you're correct in identifying that I have little reason to devote energy to an argument like this anymore though
2021-02-26 16:57
7 replies
Lmao you dont even know what you're trying to tell yourself. We can look at the whole history of CS and theres really not a team that didnt do a lineup change in over a year, but improved greatly after the time with the same exact lineup. There just isnt one. Steadily improving over time is a different scenario but OG has been stale for a long ass time, or even in decline.
2021-02-26 17:05
6 replies
No, you're the one arbitrarily saying "over a year, over a year" when I'm saying "well here's some teams that improved late, OG has had maybe a few months of good competition only." Anyway it's over now, we will see what replacement they take and if they can ever reach top 6 again.
2021-02-27 02:53
5 replies
How come few months? Its actually 15 months. Covid doesnt restrict their practising and look at every other team doing just fine. They surely can reach even top 5. Matter of time if they pick the right player.
2021-02-27 07:39
4 replies
>Covid doesnt restrict their practising one of their players is literally stuck on a different continent. Done with your strawmanning
2021-02-28 13:04
3 replies
How does that restrict him to join a server? Sure he plays a bit worse with high ping but thats just individual problem. But now you're just going all over the place when infact you cant back up your original statement.
2021-02-28 13:17
2 replies
>How does that restrict him to join a server? Sure he plays a bit worse with high ping but thats just individual problem. Clearly I am talking to a child
2021-02-28 13:17
1 reply
CS practise happens online. Bootcamp is more like an intensive training period but by all means not a necessity.
2021-02-28 13:18
#188
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Poland SebL
They should discuss a lot and maybe change something in roles/positions, but honestly I feel like they should stay with this roster, like those players are all really good, and this team still could work imo. GL to them.
2021-02-24 08:48
Issa would have had these issues for years now. He has had every opportunity to move to EU by now and make a sacrifice plenty of other players have had to make.
2021-02-24 10:38
1 reply
Of course he moved to ukraine to play for HR. I think he even got ukraine citizenship. However, none of that helps in covid times. it's pure bad luck, not a lack of commitment.
2021-02-25 03:24
#196
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Poland r4v1x
-Someone +Firepower (sunny?)
2021-02-24 10:40
Just disband
2021-02-24 10:59
#203
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Denmark Luc4sCS
pretty cool huh
2021-02-24 12:07
Nice
2021-02-24 12:27
Ez for Aleksib sib Ceb Ceb pooper pooper belt pooper pooper belt
2021-02-24 16:17
#211
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Finland vjollila
-aleksib +sunny #1 hltv confirmed
2021-02-24 16:30
1 reply
Sure worked nicely the last time xD
2021-02-25 14:53
#214
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Finland drinn
I personally think they should hire some kind of personal trainer, or a psychologist there in order to motivate them to do better. Line-up changes doesn't help at all. Well might fix the problem, but OG has done so good after all. Why to ruin it? They got into TOP 6 with this line-up as well. Look at Astralis for example. They haven't changed much, but added temporarily players, when they were needed. If line-up change is needed, maybe add sergej there? He is still a young talent out there.
2021-02-24 22:49
#216
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United Kingdom Fad3r
I personally think they should hire some kind of personal trainer, or a psychologist there in order to motivate them to do better. Line-up changes doesn't help at all. Well might fix the problem, but OG has done so good after all. Why to ruin it? They got into TOP 6 with this line-up as well. Look at Astralis for example. They haven't changed much, but added temporarily players, when they were needed. If line-up change is needed, maybe add sergej there? He is still a young talent out there.
2021-02-25 00:39
1 reply
Isn't he in the military ?
2021-02-25 14:53
#228
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Finland iBait
ez comeback, top 1 by the end of the year)))
2021-02-25 15:04
#230
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Finland Lupuu
80ms isnt even bad lmao. Excuses
2021-02-25 18:24
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