moses on FalleN's motivation to play for Liquid: "He was focused on cementing his legacy"

The American analyst-turned-coach admitted that he, too, had concerns about the Brazilian and shared his goals for Liquid in the latest episode of 'HLTV Confirmed'.

Jason "⁠moses⁠" O'Toole has been hard at work trying to bring Liquid back to where they were in 2019. They have been a far cry from the side that dominated the circuit during the first half of the season that year, with only three players remaining from that exciting squad that won the Intel Grand Slam Season 2.

The 34-year-old coach appeared on Sunday as a guest on the 'HLTV Confirmed' podcast and spoke about some of the team's lingering issues and how he is still working to improve their mental toughness.

It's been seven months since moses transitioned from a talent member to Liquid's head coach

"I knew it was going to be hard because I knew when I took this job that it wasn't necessarily a matter of Counter-Strike itself being an issue," moses said. "I knew that the biggest obstacle was the objective to change the culture, the mentality, fixing the problem of choking, and falling apart mentally.

"That was one thing that I kind of highlighted as my biggest goal. I still haven't achieved it yet, it's always a work in progress. It certainly hasn't been stress-free."

moses arrived in Liquid right after the team replaced their longest-standing member and in-game leader, Nick "⁠nitr0⁠" Cannella, with Michael "⁠Grim⁠" Wince. Not only did they have to fit the new rifler into the team, but they also had to basically rebuild their entire system as Jake "⁠Stewie2K⁠" Yip became the shot-caller and Keith "⁠NAF⁠" Markovic started playing more with the AWP.

Meanwhile, Liquid still had to attend multiple online events as the competitive calendar became even busier than usual amid the COVID-19 pandemic. They kept playing to see what they needed to change in the team, with almost no time to fix the problems.

"The online era caused a certain amount of issues," moses said. "Like the small external problems involved in playing Counter-Strike online for what's over a year now kind of caught me off-guard a little bit when we initially started. So I kind of went in with the mindset that this is going to be a ramp-up period, in which everyone is getting a little bit used to each other and working on some things, and then we'll be ready to take those big leaps and starting running forward once LANs come back. And obviously, that hasn't happened yet.

"If there is one thing that I learned very quickly within this team when I started coaching it's how important nitr0 was. We always had the conversation on the analysis desk and during matches about how sometimes he probably didn't get the credit he deserved as an in-game leader, how sometimes he was kind of an overlooked player on the Liquid roster, but he was like the cohesive guy, he was the glue, everyone on the team had some positive relationship with him in one way or the other."

Liquid didn't live up to expectations in the second half of 2020, their best result a runners-up finish in the IEM Global Challenge, Russel "⁠Twistzz⁠" Van Dulken's final event with the team before he stepped down from the roster. Although the Canadian had been one of Liquid's best players since he arrived in 2017, moses quickly realized that Twistzz and the rest of the team weren't on the same page anymore, inside or outside the game.

"Some of the things we worked on got better, and some got worse," moses explained. "It was one of these weird situations in teams where I don't think anyone was necessarily the problem. But it just got to a point where I don't think it worked well enough in any way to fix it. The option was to spend months trying to fix this kind of problem or just get rid of it.

"It was not like he was the problem, but everyone together was a problem on some level. That was one of the main reasons why I decided to pull the trigger and move Russ on. I think that worked well for him as well."

Liquid picked up Gabriel "⁠FalleN⁠" Toledo to replace Twistzz, with the Brazilian joining the team ahead of BLAST Premier Global Final, in January. After a disappointing run in the BLAST Premier Spring Groups in February, the two-time Major champion took over in-game leadership duties from Stewie2K, leading the team to a semi-final appearance in IEM Katowice.

"That change occurred the day that we were beaten by FaZe the second time in BLAST (laughs)," moses revealed. "The plan wasn't always to have FalleN become the in-game leader. I think Stewie reads the game very well and he can be a great in-game leader if he ever chooses to be. The attractiveness of FalleN as a player to pick up wasn't him just being an AWPer and an in-game leader, it's just a lot of flexibility."

FalleN is determined to revive his career in Liquid and be remembered as one of the best

moses admitted to being impressed by how quickly FalleN was able to settle in the team and get comfortable enough in his new surroundings to pick up the baton. Many in the community had doubted that the Brazilian would be motivated after the turmoil in MIBR, but the 29-year-old has shown that he still has plenty of gas left in the tank and remains as ambitious as ever.

"Those concerns were fair and valid, I remember even having those concerns and speaking about them on broadcasts," moses said, revealing that he asked to FalleN if he still wanted to win trophies. "He was focused on cementing his legacy as a player and his history as one of the best AWPers and in-game leaders, and finding himself another Major. That was obviously perfect for me, I want guys who are going to chase down a legacy."

As far as objectives go, moses said that the team haven't set any specific targets, but he stressed that everyone is aware of the lofty expectations that come from representing a storied organisation like Liquid.

"If you're part of Liquid, even if we are struggling as much as we have at times over the past few months, the expectations and the goals are still to win," he said. "We haven't sat down and been like, 'We have to win a particular event', but ESL One Cologne is a big goal of mine and ESL Pro League is a huge deal for us. We also got the BLAST Premier Spring Showdown after EPL and we obviously want to qualify for the Spring Finals."

You can access the full VOD of Sunday's episode of 'HLTV Confirmed' below.

Brazil Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1370
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.60
United States Nick 'nitr0' Cannella
Nick 'nitr0' Cannella
Age:
25
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
1323
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.66
Canada Keith 'NAF' Markovic
Keith 'NAF' Markovic
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1377
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.63
Canada Russel 'Twistzz' Van Dulken
Russel 'Twistzz' Van Dulken
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.12
Maps played:
1154
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.62
United States Michael 'Grim' Wince
Michael 'Grim' Wince
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
696
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.69
United States Jake 'Stewie2K' Yip
Jake 'Stewie2K' Yip
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
1352
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.68
Liquid will be top 5
2021-03-08 22:31
14 replies
Why are germans always #1 for the comments?
2021-03-08 22:33
9 replies
thats just a myth
2021-03-08 22:34
2 replies
Could I bang u?
2021-03-09 14:57
Germans are just a myth?
2021-03-09 19:47
#14
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Sweden Zackst3rz
Germany top 1
2021-03-08 22:35
3 replies
#55
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Philippines sijibats
BIG just lost
2021-03-09 00:24
2 replies
#61
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Sweden Zackst3rz
:c
2021-03-09 00:38
1 reply
#64
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Philippines sijibats
nt
2021-03-09 00:48
bum country
2021-03-09 12:44
its one german guy with a million alts
2021-03-09 13:38
#40
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Brazil UvvU
last time i used script to get #1 comment i got banned, why the same doesnt happen to u?
2021-03-08 23:09
3 replies
Wow, u just admitted to being a pathetic loser
2021-03-08 23:35
#63
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Brazil |witcher|
jerman script is 7x better
2021-03-09 00:43
because it's not a script?
2021-03-09 22:18
ez4godfallen
2021-03-08 22:31
5 replies
Moses. To be frank..😂: Moses is stepping into ynk shoes. Ur not an analyst/caster for nothing... u aint a coach. Stop being an “allround” esports lad. This is just too funny tbfh SMH🙄🙄 quit it already. Becoming the next henryg maybe?🤣
2021-03-08 22:44
4 replies
stfu m8
2021-03-09 01:03
Moses isn't useless like YNk. The only things YNk did good are partying and drinking alcohol with NiKo and coldzera, lol.
2021-03-09 03:34
2 replies
Wanna bet? Lets see after 4-6 months if he contributed in some way whatsoever. Cya
2021-03-09 06:00
You are right. Him partying and drinking in such a professional way was the best
2021-03-10 23:09
fallen good move tbh, the guy still has it now get rid of stewie asap, not sure who should join
2021-03-08 22:31
7 replies
perhaps get some talented nonamer in OR Lots of free agents to choose from
2021-03-08 22:32
5 replies
yeah bring new blood imo, some kid motivated to show himself
2021-03-08 22:37
3 replies
oBo would be a good move imo but now it's top late
2021-03-08 22:45
They already have grim. Bringing another rookie would be worse IMO. You dont have to always blame someone....... ohh lok fallen is washed up, stewie is bad.... Both are great players, they need time as a team, and they are doing a good job.
2021-03-08 23:20
1 reply
#103
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Brazil mi4n
+1
2021-03-09 15:08
#38
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Brazil kindo
liquid cynic or saffee kek
2021-03-08 23:07
I think people underrestimate stewie tbh. He’s a very solid player. He just has the same syndrome as fer lmao which is sometimes he’s too agressive and he needs to evaluate the situation better and control the agressivness. When a player is too agressive like stew or fer, sometimes it will workout and it will be an amazing play, other times someone will be waiting for you in a stupid corner and you’re done. Its just a matter of finding the right balance. I really think fallen can be a positive inflence in stewie’s game in this regard
2021-03-13 12:06
-STEWIE2K +Any NA Half-Life Television Organization Forum User
2021-03-08 22:34
11 replies
Stewie was one of the best entry fraggers in kato but aight
2021-03-08 22:34
8 replies
-STEWIE2K +SomeFuwkingCunt EZ MAJOR 4 LIQUID
2021-03-08 22:34
7 replies
-1 ive been trash since 2018 :(
2021-03-08 22:35
6 replies
No mens! SomeFuwkingCunt is a great player!!! Better than Jake "Stewie2K" Yip! Liquid would win major if SomeFuwkingCunt joined to them!
2021-03-08 22:37
5 replies
i arent think that :v
2021-03-08 22:38
4 replies
I are think that!! :C SomeFuwkingCunt (UK Pride) is a very good dope player!
2021-03-08 22:39
3 replies
thanks mens but some 1.06kd level 6 faceit bot isn't better than stew
2021-03-08 22:40
2 replies
It's better than Jake "Stewie2K" Yip! Trust me mens!!
2021-03-08 22:40
Stew is bot, I'm sure you are better than him
2021-03-09 03:37
- Jack "Stewie2k" Yip, a.k.a. stew, stew10am, the Smoke Criminal +Any North-American, Canadian or Brazilian Half-Life Television Organization Forum User
2021-03-09 13:04
1 reply
+99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 - Jack "Stewie2K" Yip, a.k.a. stew, stew10am, steven10am, The Smoke Criminal + Any North-American, Canadian or Brazilian Half-Life Television Organization Forum User
2021-03-09 20:45
WalleN gonna win EPL season 13 (bookmark this comment)
2021-03-08 22:33
2 replies
hope so lol
2021-03-09 00:08
Lukquid
2021-03-09 03:37
the legend, respect for the true one
2021-03-08 22:33
1 reply
Confia no verdadeiro
2021-03-10 23:11
#9
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United States poL_aris
never forget 2019-2020 mibr
2021-03-08 22:33
#16
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United States Haibara
Team Liquid needs to get rid of Grim. I feel ike Grim replacing nitr0 was so desperate.
2021-03-08 22:36
9 replies
#34
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United States MDMOS
actually grim is replacing Twistzz, and Fallen replacing nitr0,
2021-03-08 22:50
5 replies
#52
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United States Haibara
Downgrades in my opinion
2021-03-08 23:53
4 replies
#67
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United States NICK788
Not really if they both wanted to leave the team, if they don’t want to be there then there is no point of keeping them.
2021-03-09 02:40
#83
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Australia PoisonDark
look back at the last nitr0 games in liquid, he was really bad. fallen >>>
2021-03-09 12:00
Individually: Twistzz > Grim FalleN >> nitr0 Together FalleN + Grim >>> Twistzz + nitr0 just gotta force Stewie to make a decision > play well > kick pick one
2021-03-09 13:06
1 reply
Lmao
2021-03-10 23:12
Comments like this give NA a bad name.
2021-03-09 00:31
2 replies
+1
2021-03-09 13:45
+1
2021-03-11 11:42
#18
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Sweden Zackst3rz
nice
2021-03-08 22:37
why does moses not have age on HLTV
2021-03-08 22:44
4 replies
Just added it!
2021-03-08 23:00
3 replies
34 years, what a boomer lol
2021-03-08 23:01
2 replies
the admin does a good thing and that's all you had to say Sadge
2021-03-08 23:33
1 reply
Lol btw it doesn’t even work for me
2021-03-09 06:16
He already did cement his legacy as a baby rager and excuse master.
2021-03-08 22:45
15 replies
Fallen + poland = 2 majors
2021-03-08 23:22
8 replies
What
2021-03-08 23:24
6 replies
EZ math, even for you.
2021-03-08 23:33
5 replies
Neo 6 majors
2021-03-08 23:49
4 replies
Fnx 6 majors
2021-03-09 04:42
Fnx + Fallen = 8 major,next
2021-03-09 12:43
2 replies
Neo 9 majors, next
2021-03-09 12:52
1 reply
hahahhaha
2021-03-09 13:13
3 in csgo?
2021-03-10 13:29
0/8
2021-03-09 13:39
5 replies
Read Richard Lewis))
2021-03-09 14:03
4 replies
nooooope, thank you!
2021-03-09 14:11
3 replies
If you read then you will understand
2021-03-09 15:06
2 replies
again, I'm flattered but no thanks
2021-03-09 16:12
1 reply
Please do it men 😖
2021-03-09 16:15
i think Liquid should reinforce their map pool to become less predictable, Fallen addiction is a great fit and they look better than they had in 2020, but idk if this is enough to win a major
2021-03-08 22:59
i have a feeling that liquid will be top 1 this year
2021-03-08 23:07
8 replies
yes, Astralis slowly declining, Vitality is just bad, Navi is inconsistent (and liquid have proven they can beat them multiple times), and there is also no other consistent top team
2021-03-08 23:35
7 replies
#57
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Brazil Anarchybr
Easy boy, CIS teams still exist
2021-03-09 00:30
4 replies
CIS is good but not great
2021-03-09 00:37
3 replies
(JW is great)
2021-03-09 03:36
CIS is always fluke, they just take everybody by surprise
2021-03-09 13:15
1 reply
True, they will never stay at the top
2021-03-09 14:54
Vitality and Navi are straight bad A team is composed of 6 players, not of a god, 2 master guardians and 3 bots
2021-03-09 13:15
1 reply
+1
2021-03-09 14:55
you guys know how to get to people to read the news. kkkkkkkkkkkkk
2021-03-08 23:39
#49
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Chile cristiaan
presente
2021-03-08 23:43
#50
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Poland SebL
FalleN is a huge legend, and it's great to see that he is still a really good player, legend <3
2021-03-08 23:44
2 replies
Films to watch before dying: old VP vs SK soccer
2021-03-09 13:18
1 reply
#112
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Poland SebL
Yeah, that was a lovely match.
2021-03-10 08:49
Legend
2021-03-09 00:19
#59
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Brazil Anarchybr
I’m so happy with him. That whole drama in the end of his tenure with MIBR may stained his legacy but if TL becomes as good as they can be and win some trophies, he will more than make up for it
2021-03-09 00:32
lets hope so or he will be ultra washed
2021-03-09 00:41
FALLEN LEGEND
2021-03-09 01:14
will always remembered
2021-03-09 04:10
FalleN already a legend.
2021-03-09 08:01
Interesting
2021-03-09 10:33
legendary player, legendary career. hopefully he can still perform and achieve on Liquid.
2021-03-09 13:38
#104
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Brazil Lostty
Love how Liquid have such a great fans around America <3 Lets go Liquid
2021-03-09 15:18
"was" (._.)
2021-03-09 17:42
He is 2x major winner what does he need to cement? He was one of the top awpers during GuardiaN and KennyS' primes. He is known for being a top-tier IGL. Made Brazil a powerhouse. I mean what is left to prove lol. But if he wants to play still it's good for CS to have great names to continue to play.
2021-03-09 22:55
still an entire scene of nepotism. friends helping other friends stay in the industry while better players continue to go unnoticed
2021-03-10 10:53
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