Leaked recording exposes match-fixing discussions in ESEA MDL

Five players from two teams are implicated in conversations to fix matches from October 2020.

An audio recording obtained by Dust2.us has revealed an October 2020 conversation between Sebastian "⁠retchy⁠" Tropiano, Carson "⁠nosraC⁠" O'Reilly and Kevin "⁠4pack⁠" Przypasniak in which the then-Rebirth trio are discussing plans to fix two ESEA MDL matches.

According to Dexerto, the matches in question - against Incognito and Russian Canadians - were postponed or forfeited after the players were made aware of the possibility of the recording existing as they wanted to be certain no-one was monitoring the betting activity of matches they were involved in fixing.

In the recording, retchy explained that Rebirth had planned on losing their match versus Russian Canadians for nearly a week, with the opposing team's in-game leader, Alex "⁠vek⁠" Voynov, "agreeing to radar." By this, retchy means that vek would stream his radar during the match to Rebirth, giving the team knowledge of the outcome of specific rounds and scenarios.

David "⁠J0LZ⁠" Jolin, another Russian Canadians player, was also mentioned by name as "being okay with it," while Dylan "⁠SATURN⁠" Finch and Ian "⁠battery⁠" Yates, two of the team's other members, were absolved of involvement as retchy specifically asks for them to be kept out of the loop so that it can "look like a legit tryhard game."

The release of the transcript is the first public report relating to recent match-fixing in North American CS:GO. On Wednesday, the Commissioner of the Esports Integrity Commission (ESIC), Ian Smith, revealed that the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) is now also involved in the ongoing investigation, with the first subsection of the report set to be released "within the next ten days to two weeks."

The complete transcript of the recording can be found here.

Canada Alex 'vek' Voynov
Alex 'vek' Voynov
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.88
Maps played:
188
KPR:
0.64
DPR:
0.75
Canada Sebastian 'retchy' Tropiano
Sebastian 'retchy' Tropiano
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.92
Maps played:
222
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.75
United States Dylan 'SATURN' Finch
Dylan 'SATURN' Finch
Age:
19
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.96
Maps played:
43
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.71
United States Kevin '4pack' Przypasniak
Kevin '4pack' Przypasniak
Age:
20
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
228
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.72
Canada David 'J0LZ' Jolin
David 'J0LZ' Jolin
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
216
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.71
Canada Ian 'battery' Yates
Ian 'battery' Yates
Age:
23
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
106
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.68
United States Carson 'nosraC' O'Reilly
Carson 'nosraC' O'Reilly
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.94
Maps played:
277
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.71
#2
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Estonia ropzfangirl
sad!!
2021-04-02 20:47
banger
2021-04-02 20:47
IBP 2.0
2021-04-02 20:47
expected from NA
2021-04-02 20:47
5 replies
KEKW F NA CSGO AND VALULRANT
2021-04-02 21:38
i mean its not like EU was caught matchfixing before NA was or anything....hurdur
2021-04-03 06:46
3 replies
When?
2021-04-03 11:26
#422
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Hong Kong TROIIDA
Yes, IBP is a European team XDdDDDdd
2021-04-04 09:06
#429
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Czech Republic Korenus
When? Do you have proof or are you just butthurt NA citizen?
2021-04-07 04:20
happy to see hltv writer nohte support the small dedicated cs:go content creator jeff "mnmzzz" rey
2021-04-02 20:47
1 reply
wrong person
2021-04-02 23:47
NA KEKW
2021-04-02 20:47
1 reply
morecocko kekw
2021-04-07 14:53
wut
2021-04-02 20:47
#9
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Jordan Zereeni
wow
2021-04-02 20:47
hope they are happy now... idiots
2021-04-02 20:47
#11
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Portugal beatje
Of course that moron carson is involved
2021-04-02 20:48
11 replies
have I missed something? what else has he done?
2021-04-02 20:52
4 replies
Interested as well
2021-04-02 20:56
#84
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Portugal beatje
He's always been an idiot when he's played FPL.
2021-04-02 21:07
Overall asshole & bully. He often types to other players when he dies, like calls them faggots and other vile words. A keyboard warrior who acts tough and bullies others behind a computer screen but looks down when he walks in real life.
2021-04-03 21:41
1 reply
Lmao and now he can go to jail.
2021-04-06 16:41
who is he?
2021-04-02 21:00
5 replies
#78
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Lebanon Dogman69
some NA dude who thinks it's cool to have your nick as your real name written backwards like Ethan or Cutler lol
2021-04-02 21:03
4 replies
So his real name is Nosrac ;d ?????????????
2021-04-02 21:08
2 replies
nosraC He capitalizes the C as well
2021-04-03 01:24
Russian brain, I'm ashamed of my own ethnicity now kek
2021-04-03 11:29
this all came from a legendary us player who nicked method and sometimes dohtem
2021-04-02 23:00
its funny to read lol
2021-04-02 20:48
expected
2021-04-02 20:48
NA at it again.
2021-04-02 20:48
losers omg..
2021-04-02 20:48
Oh. My. God........
2021-04-02 20:49
ok
2021-04-02 20:49
It just keeps getting worse...
2021-04-02 20:49
1 reply
Its tier 4 what do u expect
2021-04-03 03:17
#19
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North America joeS
garbage humans get them the fuck out the game
2021-04-02 20:49
NA moment
2021-04-02 20:49
bruh
2021-04-02 20:49
#22
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United Kingdom Kiieran1
they get any nice skins?
2021-04-02 20:49
#23
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India xEleanorex
Oh god
2021-04-02 20:49
NA CS deader then dead
2021-04-02 20:49
2 replies
NA cs might be deadest then
2021-04-03 01:27
1 reply
where were u when NA CS was deaded i was at home playing cs when I see message "na cs is kil" "no
2021-04-03 04:07
HAHAHA
2021-04-02 20:50
FBI OPEN UP
2021-04-02 20:50
#27
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Russia ADisAsstah
I am not mad, just disappointed.
2021-04-02 20:50
and I like 4pack :(
2021-04-02 20:51
2 replies
i woudn't. kids a toxic ego fuck
2021-04-02 21:00
1 reply
lol dude was fuckin around in open last season avg like 25 rws
2021-04-02 21:54
goodbye valorant scene!
2021-04-02 20:51
8 replies
not a single player in this, is in any way involved with the valorant e-sport scene nt csgo cringe kid
2021-04-02 21:08
7 replies
#94
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Lebanon Dogman69
nt but the godFixer 4pack played with marved, shanks, c4lypso and we have video proof of actual throwing
2021-04-02 21:10
1 reply
the child you replied to has their head so far up some cartoon character's ass they can't see anymore
2021-04-02 21:20
you understand this is only the beginning of the reveals, correct? and that more than half of the kids involved have hopped ship to valorant right? you dumbfuck smoothbrain cartoon-loving room temp iq moron
2021-04-02 21:15
A good portion of the NA Valorant scene were involved in this. Marved, Shanks, and plenty more are apart of this.
2021-04-02 21:27
3 replies
Do you mean “apart” as in detached or “a part” as in involved?
2021-04-02 22:15
2 replies
#270
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Brazil yalamix
I believe he meant "a part"
2021-04-03 00:35
I meant a part. I’m on my phone and it auto corrects sometimes when I’m not paying attention.
2021-04-03 03:38
#30
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Brunei route322
Thats why they forfeit that match?
2021-04-02 20:51
#31
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Morocco royflord
degenerate for fixing and rat for snitching
2021-04-02 20:51
1 reply
Ahaan so we have a degenerate rat...nice xaxaxaxaxax
2021-04-03 01:29
#32
NAF | 
North America thib
I called it
2021-04-02 20:51
#34
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Argentina WaSTe_D
bye bye i guess
2021-04-02 20:52
very nice, fuck matchfixers
2021-04-02 20:52
PROS DONT CHEAT
2021-04-02 20:52
Rekt and bye
2021-04-02 20:52
#38
ropz | 
Germany lor3nz
is jail a possible option for them or is this just an Australian thing?
2021-04-02 20:53
14 replies
I hope they get 10 years+ behind the bars, throwers are the biggest scumbags in sports/esports, if they give them a big punishment then throwers will think twice before trying to matchfix again.
2021-04-02 20:57
9 replies
#253
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Lithuania rigb0ne
lol mad bettor spotted, there's legit nothing wrong with throwing irrelevant matches
2021-04-02 23:43
8 replies
dumbest thing ive read in a while
2021-04-03 00:32
#300
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United States thvAD
-1
2021-04-03 01:50
Throwing is one thing but setting it up with another team is different
2021-04-03 06:54
You are the dumbest person i've ever seen on this site, holy shit you are such a loser for thinking this way.
2021-04-03 12:57
4 replies
How much???
2021-04-03 17:28
#404
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Lithuania rigb0ne
how much?
2021-04-03 17:53
2 replies
I have more money than you'll ever make in 100 lifes poor fuck.
2021-04-03 18:02
1 reply
#407
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Lithuania rigb0ne
nice eu flag, where are you from?
2021-04-03 18:04
#65
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United States kw13
probably not these guys but for the bigger offenders it's certainly possible. online sports betting hasn't been a big thing in the US for very long so there's not much precedent.
2021-04-02 20:59
2 replies
Three of them are Canadian. No?
2021-04-02 23:04
1 reply
#231
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United States kw13
same with canada, it's only been legal for a few years.
2021-04-02 23:21
It depends on how much money was earned/ how much innocent people lost. If it is like below 100k then I would expect them to have to pay that some back. If it was any more than that I can see them getting some jail time (max about 5 years). LINK: law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/224
2021-04-06 16:47
#43
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Korea Weeataku
4Pack innocent mens))) What the actual fuck Retchy?????
2021-04-02 20:54
2 replies
4pack definitely threw
2021-04-02 21:20
#313
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Ecuador Ageless
4pack is known matchfixer for a while lol
2021-04-03 02:48
#44
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United States weaboo
bots
2021-04-02 20:54
#45
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United States daly92
RIP NA, between valorant and matchfixing our future is not bright
2021-04-02 20:54
1 reply
I mean Carson and 4Pack had signed to valorant teams so idk how bad the NA scene itself will be
2021-04-03 01:56
can someone ban seized already? ffs
2021-04-02 20:54
11 replies
lol valve dont care about china and cis they have huge market value
2021-04-02 21:10
10 replies
he and his team are matchfixing for months, he even bought a car, they have clips in good tournaments and they dont care wtf
2021-04-02 21:22
8 replies
bro his playing since 2013 i mean he should afford one really
2021-04-02 21:24
5 replies
go see the clips and take ur conclusions.
2021-04-02 21:34
4 replies
bro i value your accusations but he bought a car isn't a good proof
2021-04-02 21:45
post the clips?
2021-04-02 23:25
2 replies
He probably means something like this clips.twitch.tv/ProudSneakyStapleMingLee.. but he’s just bad imo
2021-04-03 08:52
1 reply
uhhhhhhhhhhhh idk bro that's pretty fucking suspicious
2021-04-03 15:30
#173
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Finland JH275
Dude he played in NaVi for 4 years I'm pretty sure he can afford a fucking car. He also hasn't played in any big tournaments in the last year except for IEM New York CIS last October. They went out in groups in that tournament, but they were also by far the worst rated team in their group so that's not really surprising.
2021-04-02 21:57
1 reply
He has a lot of money for sure.Also He has a VERY expensive apartments. People talk about his cars but ofc he can buy everything cuz Seized earned atleast 500k$ since 2013 and he still gets salary.
2021-04-02 23:29
Yea valve took so long to ban newbee. Was kind of funny. It's like they don't care. (Dota TI 4 winner who match fixed)
2021-04-02 22:45
bye bye carson
2021-04-02 20:55
NA cs
2021-04-02 20:56
I feel sorry for the other two. Absolute scumbags
2021-04-02 20:56
#52
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Pakistan LoOuU2
pretty disappointing to read all of this.
2021-04-02 20:56
loooooool
2021-04-02 20:56
na cs expected
2021-04-02 20:56
I cant count how many times during the last year I thought: Oh well, NOW the NA scene is dead
2021-04-02 20:58
If I ever think what a match-fixer would look, it would be more or less like this: hltv.org/player/17510/j0lz#tab-teamsBox
2021-04-02 20:58
3 replies
LMAO
2021-04-02 21:43
he's really making the pizzafaced virgin crowd look bad
2021-04-02 23:26
Jesus Christ what the fuck...
2021-04-03 00:18
Bruh lower tier NA CS is either throwing, old af, or switching to VALORANT smh
2021-04-02 20:58
NA INTEGRITY KEKW
2021-04-02 20:59
Do people even bet on these nobodies?
2021-04-02 21:00
6 replies
fixing matches in champions league football fixing matches in uganda first division same shit bro
2021-04-02 21:06
probably not but there is more proof about matchfixing again....
2021-04-02 21:07
Do you seriously think this doesnt happen in higher divisions? Or in other sports?
2021-04-02 21:49
2 replies
Where did I say that? I literally wondered if people bet on these teams nobody even knows and thats it.
2021-04-02 22:47
#235
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Russia xtkjdtr01
i do now prove me wrong (team that i bet on lost from 11-8 to 11-16 isnt proof)
2021-04-02 23:24
It just hurts the interiority of the scene so it should be regulated. And assuming that they betted against themselves there at least has to odds in their favor of winning. Either people are loosing money or gambling sites. Either way it hurts the ecosystem.
2021-04-06 16:52
Never heard of any of these people, but regardless, I hope they get banned.
2021-04-02 21:00
#73
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Japan Inlivino
fucking scumbag, cya in jail LUL
2021-04-02 21:01
#74
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Denmark ram1n
Imagine getting the chance to play full contract as professional, a job that many young players dream of getting into esports and just watch it get pissed through your hands, cause you are ungreatfull and just want to earn money in a disgusting rotten way. How can you ever be proud of yourself, you can't call yourself pro, if u aint grinding further in your career
2021-04-02 21:02
Yikes wtf
2021-04-02 21:02
#76
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Brazil hugoooo
Took so long until some names came to light... there are way more for sure, specifically in Europe
2021-04-02 21:03
Ofc carson and 4pack who would have thought xDDDDD
2021-04-02 21:03
4 replies
#96
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Germany Pforzfox
I'd be very intimidated if 4pack threatened me, that guy weighs at least 20 kilos Also lmao at how znf just doesn't give a fuck
2021-04-02 21:10
3 replies
#97
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Lebanon Dogman69
imagine trying to throw a match and you can't even be bothered to show up in time
2021-04-02 21:12
2 replies
Yo le noob, Isn't it Polen who didn't show up?
2021-04-02 23:20
1 reply
#241
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Russia xtkjdtr01
yo i bet u dont have any friends irl because everyone thinks that u are so fucking annoying :)
2021-04-02 23:27
BUT THERE IS NO MATCHFIXING IN CS?????
2021-04-02 21:07
#83
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Canada _penguins
Poor Saturn man, this being from the same season his teammates didn’t show up to playoffs. It’s only up from here for NA!
2021-04-02 21:07
1 reply
Saturn is just trying to be honest in the slimiest esports circuit there is
2021-04-02 21:26
some of these players are in NA FPL by the way, still allowed to make money while you have players grinding hard to have that opportunity. made so many reports/tickets in faceit NA on 4pack, retchy and vek about toxicity, throwing pugs, racism and faceit never did anything, i even get banned on reddit for mentioning it. wouldnt be surprised if they have peers helping them maintain positions within both orgs.
2021-04-02 21:07
9 replies
some of other throwing cunts are now getting paid huge salaries by big orgs in valorant
2021-04-02 21:08
2 replies
not for long =D but agreed they are cunts
2021-04-02 21:33
1 reply
hope so
2021-04-02 21:36
You are a nobody for faceit. Somebody more famous would do the trick - look at latest elige thingy
2021-04-03 00:21
5 replies
regardless my "csgo status" as if that means anything morally but i agree with you about the depth esports guys and elige situation., faceit admins in NA are extremely bias and i would even bet some are closet bigots themselves.
2021-04-03 00:59
1 reply
Basically to do something you need a big name behind a statement 🙄
2021-04-03 01:03
What is the latest elige thingy, very extremely curious and also don't know.
2021-04-03 01:34
2 replies
win.gg/news/7178/elige-exposes-racist-cs.. Basically players were saying dumb shit, faceit banned them for a week or something (or no punishment at all) but then ellige got involved and faceit kicked them from fpl-c AND the org also kicked them the fuck out.
2021-04-03 02:15
1 reply
Ohhh, thank you mensss
2021-04-03 13:15
nooo 4pack was on my watch list FUCKING HELL!!!
2021-04-02 21:07
#91
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Saudi Arabia Xpicyy
hope they get banned for life
2021-04-02 21:09
all this esea and mdl shit is only matchfixing fuck those guys, go get a job instead of throwing for food, dogs
2021-04-02 21:09
China, NA, CIS this is 100% matchfixing
2021-04-02 21:10
#98
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Greenland ragequitv2
ibuypower to sign rebirth roster
2021-04-02 21:12
Expected from vek 20 yo 0.85 k/d against NA mdl what can he do right fix games because he sucks
2021-04-02 21:14
''Russian Canadians'' what is this team name LUL
2021-04-02 21:15
4 replies
#124
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Norway TheDEA
Is it better than Swedish Canadians?
2021-04-02 21:27
2 replies
is that also a team? xd
2021-04-02 21:30
1 reply
#133
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Norway TheDEA
Yes, Jolz and battery played in both.
2021-04-02 21:32
Yo le noob, They took this name bcz wippie was playing in it for a period of time.
2021-04-02 23:22
why are ppl still trying to matchfix? clearly not worth it cuz they will get cought in the end
2021-04-02 21:16
7 replies
Not worth it? They are young and can make thousands by losing random games.
2021-04-02 21:20
4 replies
Ye, but they will get banned for life, i mean they are already "semi pros" so i guess their dream is to be pro, instead of fixing like a little dog just quit cs and go get a job, not that hard
2021-04-02 21:29
1 reply
Banned for life ?Who cares man ? Those are not real consequences. Now they can get a job after gathering easy money for years.
2021-04-02 21:33
#132
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Greece RedWinter
and then go to jail kek
2021-04-02 21:32
1 reply
No jail .
2021-04-02 21:46
#116
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Lebanon Dogman69
they are only caught because they are retards who can't do it properly. they probably wrote in discord to their opponents "yo bro wanna fix?" and rumours got too big to ignore
2021-04-02 21:24
risk/reward
2021-04-03 07:23
#105
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Sweden dogtown
They should look at every huge upset in history. Match fixing must be an endless black hole in e-sports. Millions upon millions would have been made. These are just kids though. They are so easily manipulated and corrupted. I would imagine there could be some very scary people pulling the strings.
2021-04-02 21:16
8 replies
#237
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France cedd
if you are smart about the paper trail and the communications, there's basically no way to get caught.
2021-04-02 23:26
5 replies
Most of the data is out there somewhere but nothing will probably be done with it. Don't you think if Valve wanted to - they could comb steam messages to start? Sadly they don't seem to care or they are already in too much hot water.
2021-04-02 23:38
4 replies
#257
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France cedd
if you are smart you would never use steam messages to communicate about this. vpn + dummy account on some random site, encrypted text services like Signal, etc...
2021-04-02 23:53
3 replies
or you could just discuss it in person
2021-04-03 06:59
2 replies
XD
2021-04-03 09:09
#361
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France cedd
for eastern europeans this is def best choice. get sponsored by shady russian betting lootcrate company, have meeting irl in cafe (: winnings get given as sponsor money
2021-04-03 11:02
edit
2021-04-02 23:38
#365
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Finland Karri
conspiracy theorist retard spotted
2021-04-03 11:33
Was wondering why curry doesn't play with rebirth guys anymore.Safe to say everybody in NA know who fixes games?
2021-04-02 21:17
2 replies
#214
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Sri Lanka w7tv
yes, and in europe also, even public know nowadays, it's so in the air it's a shame
2021-04-02 23:02
good on him, hope he isnt involved. One of my favorite NA prospects
2021-04-02 23:33
#107
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World HerrFritz
But 4pack seems like he didn't wanted to be part of it. Just like Skadoodle in IBP
2021-04-02 21:17
6 replies
#121
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Norway TheDEA
You got the transcript from IBP throw?
2021-04-02 21:26
4 replies
#128
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World HerrFritz
Nah but Skadoodle wasn't banned and it was explained that he didn't know or didn't want to be a part of that (I'm not sure now tho)
2021-04-02 21:29
3 replies
#166
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Norway TheDEA
He played like an idiot, so he took part in it. But maybe he didn't want to. Know DaZed said Ska didn't want to take part, but DaZed is a nice guy, for the most part.
2021-04-02 21:47
2 replies
Ok shut up now
2021-04-03 17:32
1 reply
#411
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Norway TheDEA
Nt Ska
2021-04-03 18:35
seems like he didn't want to be part of this particular matchfix he played with retchy for a long time + he played with shanks and marved who will also go down, they fixed probably over dozen matches, he was 100% part of it
2021-04-02 21:48
Check seized and CyberLegacy
2021-04-02 21:17
3 replies
#117
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Europe dontrax
do u think the FBI cares about anything outside their own developing country?
2021-04-02 21:25
2 replies
FBI don't car CIA car
2021-04-02 21:34
1 reply
But what about bike and bus ?
2021-04-03 01:37
now check seized, Nexus and ALTERNATE aTTaX
2021-04-02 21:21
6 replies
yes and many more
2021-04-02 21:26
#130
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Lebanon Dogman69
check [insert team name I lost money betting on]
2021-04-02 21:30
2 replies
Funny how his list only includes 3 teams then.
2021-04-02 21:45
+1 They need to check him pc and game
2021-04-02 23:03
nexus lul, they're not throwing they're literally losing every qualifier in romania that are not even on hltv and are not on any betting sites.
2021-04-02 22:06
1 reply
don't forget btn's betting history
2021-04-02 22:25
finnaly ESIC are doing their jobs but they have to investigate in Europe, surely there are a lot of teams who are matchfixing.
2021-04-02 21:25
3 replies
#125
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Estonia qoznyyy
rip skade and bunch of russians
2021-04-02 21:28
1 reply
#212
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Sri Lanka w7tv
ex-wendigo lmao can be judged by years ago and now throw?
2021-04-02 23:01
theyre only starting with NA, gonna be an entertaining year
2021-04-02 23:33
I thought I had it all together...
2021-04-02 21:33
Can only get better from here. I’m interested to see what happens to all the Valorant players that switched from CS who threw their games. A good portion of them are all from MDL. People like Marved, Shanks, etc. are all out for a rip. Gonna be a rip for NA Valorant.
2021-04-02 21:41
2 replies
Gonna be good thing for VALORANT to get rid of those throwers
2021-04-03 01:45
1 reply
Can’t agree more. Scumbags getting what they deserve. Would make Valorant scene more interesting when there are more up and comers instead of washed NA pros.
2021-04-03 03:37
now they should find correct jail for them.
2021-04-02 21:33
#139
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Brazil chad47
Lmao its been ages im literally crying my ass out 4pack nosrac retchy are all legit throwers and none bats an eye
2021-04-02 21:33
FBI is watching!
2021-04-02 21:34
Rebirth has been known for matchfixing for a while, unsurprising
2021-04-02 21:34
cya in 10 boys
2021-04-02 21:35
Jail is their new home
2021-04-02 21:35
#147
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Denmark estro1
Imagine doing this in Europe, there will be exactly 6 teams left to play snow sweet snow tournaments
2021-04-02 21:35
1 reply
#160
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Pakistan LoOuU2
6 left and 4 of them being the one directly invited to playoffs
2021-04-02 21:45
#150
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Georgia Megobari
Losers, ahahha
2021-04-02 21:37
Well tier8 players who lack talent want to make some money as well. I don't think they give a fuck. Only jail would open their eyes.
2021-04-02 21:39
0.88 rating dog ahahahaha
2021-04-02 21:40
Didn't hltv jump the gun? I thought they were going to coordinate the articles for the maximum amount exposure and damage
2021-04-02 21:42
1 reply
What, by linking to an article on the topic that was posted earlier and originally obtained the recordings?
2021-04-02 22:31
"The presence of retchy, 4pack, and nosraC in the recording, which was received from an anonymous person" THERE IS 1 IMPOSTOR AMONG US
2021-04-02 21:43
5 replies
I think 4pack leaked it
2021-04-02 22:32
3 replies
#220
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North America joeS
i mean not like it would save him he still agreed to matchfix kekw
2021-04-02 23:05
2 replies
but he would get less jail time than the others..
2021-04-03 01:04
1 reply
#290
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North America joeS
yes maybe it depends on how much he match fixed. its not like this info is brand new these guys have been getting named dropped for a while now
2021-04-03 01:09
Axax impostor in da real life
2021-04-03 02:27
Leak the audio ffs
2021-04-02 21:43
They done fucked up
2021-04-02 21:47
4pack going to jail or being fined thousands of dollars would make my day
2021-04-02 21:51
please throw these idiots into jail
2021-04-02 21:59
This is just random NA MDL match, imagine what happens daily at sweet snow fix matches lol, these guys should literally be hired by Hollywood
2021-04-02 21:59
1 reply
#217
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North America joeS
when the investigation starts looking into t2-t3 EU scene, I think the lower scenes will actually die. the amount of fixing is insane rn
2021-04-02 23:04
Seized how is your new Mercedes bro? Can I have a ride?
2021-04-02 22:04
#177
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Latvia heywire
cya in 7 years because you will spend that time in prison.
2021-04-02 22:05
Damn, 6ix9ine aint got no chill 😭😭
2021-04-02 22:10
Knock knock FBI Open Up
2021-04-02 22:12
#183
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Poland BAN_ANIME
LETS GOOOO LMAO CYA IN 10
2021-04-02 22:14
how does this even get recorded? and why? if it was actually one of the match fixers.
2021-04-02 22:15
3 replies
Do you think discord / fb / skype / zoom etc. doesn't record, save, voice to text every conversation you have? U cute bro. :3
2021-04-02 23:01
2 replies
ofc its 2021 Edward Snowden bro but it's not like some employee for those companies is like IM A CSGO FAN AND I HAVE ACCESS TO THIS DATA AND WANT TO EXPOSE! or did they get it with help from fbi. I mean who actually got access to the conversation if it wasn't the match fixers. Is there an invisible admin in their channel? Or is there some REQUEST VOICE RECORDINGS that i'm not aware of.
2021-04-03 06:05
1 reply
Ok I see what you mean now m8. The dust2.us article only says "Dust2.us obtained an audio recording" like if this was obtained by police they wouldn't hand it to a csgo news website since its an ongoing investigation so I guess someone "snitched" here lol.
2021-04-03 18:58
#185
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United States B0b3rT
Who knew kek
2021-04-02 22:15
lo0l epic :()
2021-04-02 22:23
Poor hamericans throwing for money :( CLOSE NA SCENE FOREVER! Useless players and money waste!
2021-04-02 22:25
We just gonna ignore that c4lypso and the whole team threw matches on purpose and its the most obvious one??? clips.twitch.tv/ProductiveSeductiveOxBCo.. clips.twitch.tv/SullenMoralCrabWholeWhea..
2021-04-02 22:26
6 replies
he was drunk for sure, there is MANY ways how to throw a match without any evidence
2021-04-02 22:44
#207
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Sri Lanka w7tv
braindead clips?
2021-04-02 22:58
4 replies
download the demo and watch it for yourself xD the odds were really high for infinity btw
2021-04-03 00:45
3 replies
#281
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Sri Lanka w7tv
yeah bruh, but there are plenty of evidence in those clips can't prove nothing? altough mathfix is at the peek moment
2021-04-03 00:54
2 replies
1 reply
#436
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Sri Lanka w7tv
saw fnatic x mous today?
2021-04-08 05:38
Na brains lmao
2021-04-02 22:27
carson xd
2021-04-02 22:31
NA CS
2021-04-02 22:35
not even the slightest sign of remorse, damn...
2021-04-02 22:35
It's not just that they wanted to throw the game, is that they wanted to share the radar so the other team knows where everyone is, so it means not everybody knew that. Sounds interesting.
2021-04-02 22:37
Ban thjem all
2021-04-02 22:39
#199
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Hungary saxxo
What else can we expect from an american guy, whose nickname is “4pack” a d looks like a mom’s little kid?:DDD
2021-04-02 22:40
NA cs still relevant?
2021-04-02 22:44
#204
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Denmark Elmgreen
bye bye careers
2021-04-02 22:56
FBI is coming. Water torture in blacksite soon.
2021-04-02 22:56
Haha where are all those guys telling me that matchfix doesnt exist, when I was posting comments on these matches where teams were completely forgetting how to play just after a bit longer pause
2021-04-02 22:56
1 reply
Imagine watching tier 10000 cs
2021-04-07 15:01
with reason, Ex Rebirth. TO knew
2021-04-02 23:00
#211
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Europe Vallon4
NA INTEGRITY OMEGALUL NA ANYTHING OMEGALUL
2021-04-02 23:01
"Russian Canadians" I guess this is the russian collusion the d*mocrats were crying about for 4 years.
2021-04-02 23:05
hello life in prison
2021-04-02 23:05
#221
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Russia razorVJ
That's nasty. Hopefully this will be taken seriously.
2021-04-02 23:08
#223
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Poland Pete229
men, I really liked rebirth but fuck carson and retchy
2021-04-02 23:08
If it wasn't enough for NA scene... sad
2021-04-02 23:10
4pack XAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXA
2021-04-02 23:12
LOL CHECK EU PLSPLSPLS
2021-04-02 23:14
Why don't these dumb gambling sites stop taking bets on tier 2-tier 3 esports when they know the temptation to do this isn't going away. The majority of these players are way too old to be satisfied with a meager salary of $500/week or less. By no means am I defending these scum but this is a repeating pattern because of the fact that we are allowing them to be in a position to make more money off 1 match than they normally make in 3 months. Just stop enticing them. Anyone with a family to feed or bills to pay might try the same shit.
2021-04-02 23:16
1 reply
its the same as you can bet on tennis in pakistan where the prize money is 500£ for winning....of course when you offer to somebody there 2000£ then they will fix it, why try hard 4 matches when you make much more in one and can move on Just the strongest mentality and people with huge dedication can refuse it, they has to believe they can make it to top100 where money are not a thing anymore and you play for achievment. In CSGO they probably has to believe they will make it to top30? Or i have no idea where you start making good money from it so you have no temptation to throw games because you are playing it for achievment
2021-04-02 23:26
I never heard about any of them but people here all talking sh*t on some “4pack” and if you read the transcript then you see that he did not want to be a part of it and looks like he leaked it out, so what is your problem with this kid?
2021-04-02 23:19
3 replies
he's always been a cunt and he's been involved in match fixing games before these discussions even took place
2021-04-02 23:29
twitter.com/lorenzoooooh/status/13780322.. It was known for a while that he was match-fixing. Maybe at that time he already knew that was coming and he set it up to lesser the punishment
2021-04-02 23:32
1 reply
wouldnt be surprised if he was even the one who leaked it
2021-04-02 23:41
#232
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Russia NOD777
Shame on matchfixing bastards. Picking money over dignity is disgusting
2021-04-02 23:22
XDDD one of them literally has steel on his pfp. you can't make this shit up imgur.com/a/ucGUJbw
2021-04-02 23:22
1 reply
bahahaha
2021-04-04 05:00
HAHAHAHA FINALLY
2021-04-02 23:29
pls ban them for life
2021-04-02 23:43
NA scene about to collapse xaxaxaxa:
2021-04-02 23:44
disgrace.
2021-04-03 00:05
Alex "⁠vek⁠" Voynov :D
2021-04-03 00:16
#266
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Poland SebL
Well it's actually getting really serious now, I mean, I don't want to say that I wish those players jail or anything but surely they have to be punished in some way.
2021-04-03 00:25
4 replies
No org will sign them.
2021-04-03 00:29
3 replies
How is this punishment ? Haha NA CS been dead for one year now. Even teams that are decent don't get signed (bad news bears , old chaos).
2021-04-03 00:41
1 reply
Then what do you suggest? Jail? They will be somebody's bitches inside
2021-04-03 00:45
#427
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Poland SebL
That's for sure.
2021-04-06 20:10
EU laughing for now not realizing that half of their tier 2/3 teams fix results daily
2021-04-03 00:40
3 replies
you can keep saying that to yourself to feel better boii but that aint true.
2021-04-03 02:08
2 replies
#314
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United States EDBX
You are in denial if you think theres no fixing going on in snow sweet snow etc. The temptation is too great for some people, every region is being effected.
2021-04-03 02:57
There are definitely match fixers in EU and CIS aswell, thats a problem in every scene, its just that its easier to get some results of trying to get to the bottom of it in AU and US as there isnt that many legislative institutions there to involve and easier to coordinate, aswell as everyone speaks English and it is easier for ESIC to transcript everything they say.
2021-04-03 03:12
sad times for the CS community
2021-04-03 00:42
So much for making some progress in NA CSGO lol. These players deserve to be banned. How long? I'm not sure as I'd like to think that they just made stupid decisions. I'd also like to think that everyone deserves a second chance.
2021-04-03 00:43
2 replies
#284
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United States BGS
I'm all for second chances as well but man I feel more sorry for people who get banned for life for cheating. I think cheating is one of the grimmest things you can do but at least you are being true to competition in terms of trying to win even if you are using external help. Throwing matches is just so against what competition is about. Hell, someone like Barry Bonds got back into baseball and he probably will never sniff the HOF because of cheating. Yet Pete Rose is just shunned from any sort of job within MLB for betting.
2021-04-03 00:58
1 reply
Either way, this doesn't look good for NA at all. I know AU had some players match fixing and what not in their MDL division too, so maybe as a whole - both the NA and AU MDL players get rightfully punished and learn their lesson and are also given a second chance.
2021-04-03 17:24
Still waiting for some EU fix uncovered, but this is unlikely to happen.
2021-04-03 00:43
1 reply
#372
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Germany ChRiZOwow
EU people are too smart
2021-04-03 12:30
cant hide
2021-04-03 00:45
#279
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Russia Boomboar
Bara bara bara
2021-04-03 00:48
#280
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Germany PeKay
Jail Set a Standard
2021-04-03 00:54
#282
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United States tictok
Depending on how much bitcoin they fraudulently obtained & their involvement in the scheme will determine how harsh the punishments are. If the bitcoin trail can not be traced or if they did not accomplish their plan, they will most likely just get banned. These guys have low self integrity/honor/morals & give NA a bad rep, as not everyone in NA are crooks.
2021-04-03 00:58
Three in the teams peak, 4pack, retchy and Carson... retchy is clearly the mastermind so he wouldn't want this getting out. 4pack was obviously involved heavily, but wasn't overly happy about it so he could have recorded to sell out retchy, or did Carson record it being silent in the background but talking once and accidentally incriminating himself?
2021-04-03 00:57
2 replies
#286
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United States BGS
I mean if any of them were the ones who recorded it I'm sure it got leaked because they sent it as evidence to their guilt in hopes of getting off easier.
2021-04-03 01:00
1 reply
or they made a plea bargain with the fbi for a lesser sentence in exchange for providing evidence
2021-04-03 08:41
Ahhahahaha Fuck you 4pack cya in 20 hltv.org/matches/2342004/blood-sweat-and..
2021-04-03 01:02
2 replies
Wow that match is crazy... they should’ve been caught a while ago
2021-04-03 02:05
1 reply
I've known about these dogs matchfixing for years, it baffles me how only now its getting exposed
2021-04-03 05:46
#291
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Brazil Fauchard
expected from NA scene.....
2021-04-03 01:20
#293
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Hungary Shiron212
Such a shame
2021-04-03 01:25
And people said that csgo script writers were not real jobs
2021-04-03 02:03
sad day for csgo
2021-04-03 02:06
#310
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United States xiquo
We knew this shit was happening for years. especially in MDL leagues where most the teams in NA mdl don't have a salary.
2021-04-03 02:24
First of all... its NA.. so .. ofc. Second, like with cheating and bug abuse, much of the fault lies with Valve. They are not inforcing a no policy. they know about cheating, and abuse and other stuff for years and do nothing, They know about players who done thing and do nothing. As long as valve do not have the right attitude to fight for the game. it will only keep happening, and damage the game. Sadly valve dont understand that them looking away is way more damaging in them admitting the problem and taking a hard puplic stand on it. For that they will need new leaders though, its clear those in charge of valve is not up to the task, and for years tainted them self.
2021-04-03 02:34
6 replies
#320
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Australia csRIOTgo
Sadly, probably Valve still makes a lot of money out of CS:GO and very happy with the bottom-line and would only probably react when it's way too late. So agreed with you, just bad leadership and lacking the passion and vision to keep the game relevant. Not a fan of Valulrant at all, but those guys are doing all the right things so far. Won't be surprised in 5yrs+ they'll take over to be honest, because Valve dgaf about the scene at all.
2021-04-03 03:42
5 replies
There's nothing they can do. CS:GO is a product, it still makes a lot of numbers, maybe because they dont do nothing. If they would change drastically, numbers could go down? Sometimes doing nothing is best. Even if they did a lot, valulrant and other fps clones of cs would still steal some players. Like I believe valve is smart, thats why over 1 million a day play this game at the same time. Thats huge number. CS:GO = classic
2021-04-03 03:50
4 replies
#324
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Australia csRIOTgo
Yes, they are doing very well in Europe and maybe the numbers in their financial statements don't show it yet. But you can't have a community dying. Frankly, they haven't done anything to address the decline of interests in CS:GO in NA and other region like APAC. U can't just expect thing to last doing nothing. Every empire will go down.
2021-04-03 04:13
1 reply
It just the way it is. I like being CS:GO how it is. In the future there will be newer version of CS, but right now this version is good for most PCs. If it aint broken, dont fix it. Dont be delusional and expect game with terrorists to have higher numbers. Everyone has some part of the esport cake, like lol dota csgo valorant now and other online game. Valulrant attack different type of group, i guess younger age. CS:GO can't be that cartoon, they would lose european players. Future version of CS will be more classic i believe. CS needs to remember of his roots, so can't look like cartoon game, and will be always for more mature players. Thats what I believe Btw all u read check my p90 road to global series link in profile
2021-04-03 04:46
Doing nothing and looking away is never the good option, it always backfires. They looked away in cycling. until it then collapsed and hurt the sport way more if they them self had blown it up. and made the changes out of will for a clean sport.. Protecting cheaters because you fear the scandal will always just give a bigger scandal when the cheating is then known.
2021-04-03 12:18
1 reply
Stats and results/time tells another story. They are just better prepared to hide things :).
2021-04-03 16:10
FBI ain't playing, these kids' careers are gone.
2021-04-03 04:13
NA CS again lol
2021-04-03 04:25
Scum
2021-04-03 04:33
shame
2021-04-03 04:54
#330
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Bulgaria goshyy
RIP NA CS
2021-04-03 05:05
2 replies
Yes, North-Atlantic CS is RIPed.
2021-04-03 07:19
1 reply
#379
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Bulgaria goshyy
Wat
2021-04-03 13:12
and they still doesnt check voyvoda, fate, bluejays, forze what a joke
2021-04-03 05:11
1 reply
#380
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Bulgaria goshyy
???? Replt needs to have actual content
2021-04-03 13:13
FREE THEM
2021-04-03 06:17
Rich People aka Matchfixers are bad People.
2021-04-03 07:18
What does "incognito game" means?
2021-04-03 07:19
1 reply
#346
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Lebanon Dogman69
just a name of the team (Incognito) they were supposed to throw against
2021-04-03 08:12
I am curious how do they actually obtain these leaks?
2021-04-03 08:50
7 replies
NSA and FBI aint playin bro, they listem to u cursing ur teammates mom during MM
2021-04-03 10:07
pretty sure one of them leaked the recording to save his ass
2021-04-03 14:01
1 reply
Lol it's not going to save his ass, he still did wrong. What even more sneaky that he backstabs his "friends"/teammates and records it
2021-04-03 18:33
Yo le noob, 4pack leaked the recording, not gonna save him tho imo.
2021-04-03 17:04
3 replies
Hopefully no, he still did wrong and overall scummy person. Backstabs his teammates whenever it's viable
2021-04-03 18:34
2 replies
Well just by looking at him you see he’s not the brightest bulb in the bunch 🤣
2021-04-03 18:43
1 reply
Where do you look him up? I played with him once and he was a very edgy and toxic kid in pug
2021-04-03 18:57
NA and matchfixing name a more iconic duo.
2021-04-03 10:06
oh look, another canadian match-fixer... LuL Steel must be proud
2021-04-03 10:22
how many years in jail are we talking about? 2 - 5 ??? they are obviously guilty, we knew that when it happened, but now theres proof and all lol
2021-04-03 10:27
SO many mad bettors in comments got scammed by na and now cry lol
2021-04-03 10:37
2 replies
its almost as if they lost money
2021-04-03 14:00
+a couple of edgy kids trying to bait them.
2021-04-03 16:04
that 4pack kid always looked sus to me tbh
2021-04-03 10:39
Matchfixing is a problem with csgo culture. How are we in situation where in game with 10+ people involved minimum per match and there is no concerns about anybody blowing a whistle? Fuck this shit.
2021-04-03 10:50
and how bout some REAL punishments?
2021-04-03 11:14
4 replies
there will be. the instant something is regulated by federal sports betting laws, and you try to scam it and get caught, you're in deep shit
2021-04-03 12:32
3 replies
Should be INSTANT vac ban + permaban that has anything to do with valve/steam events FOR EVER plus the obvoius others.
2021-04-03 14:59
2 replies
for sure, valve perma bans is guaranteed, but I that is the least of their concerns right now I am sure, unless they can somehow work a deal with the feds handing out names /snitching out the shadowmen, but that is also a very risky thing to do. so yeah theyre fucked any way you look at it
2021-04-07 04:15
1 reply
i sure hope they're forked, i hate cheaters and match fixers.
2021-04-07 11:56
#367
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Brunei cyLoL
NA CS at its bestest
2021-04-03 12:07
hahahaha idiots
2021-04-03 12:14
#370
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Germany ChRiZOwow
Doesn’t wonder me at all... This happens every day on matches that are on betting sites.
2021-04-03 12:27
1 reply
Yup :)
2021-04-03 12:31
#371
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Other M@GNU5
FBI open up!!!!
2021-04-03 12:29
It's getting real serious
2021-04-03 13:07
#378
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Luxembourg TheBudi34
gib my money back
2021-04-03 13:11
Who would've thought that there exists matchfixing in MDL, ESIC just confirming what we've known for years
2021-04-03 13:29
1 reply
Sadly the *we* is actually a minority.
2021-04-03 16:02
ibuypower 2.0 ?
2021-04-03 13:34
1 reply
ibp just threw a small online game where there was no consequence of losing for dazed’s own team (netcode) to get to playoffs and make a couple hundred in the process these guys stole at least hundreds of thousands of dollars over years
2021-04-03 13:59
NA bots still love steel and their kids
2021-04-03 14:59
Yo led noobs, How amazing it is that in September an article is released about an ongoing investigation about match fixing in NA MDL, and these dudes decide two months later: « Hey guys let’s throw again »?? Looks like they really wanted to get caught lmfao.
2021-04-03 17:11
1 reply
Ian Smith did say they weren't the brightest bunch.
2021-04-03 22:16
omg imagine how many matches they throw already and how many other matches have been thrown as well my goodness
2021-04-03 17:20
#400
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United States 1nverse
#PACKWATCH RIP BOZOS REST IN PISS YOU WON'T BE MISSED 💯💯🤣
2021-04-03 17:30
expected from NA
2021-04-03 17:53
#408
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Finland OGx
welcome to the AA club
2021-04-03 18:07
Nine to five Malta vibes Snow sweet snow Funspark Can i continue? This game full of matchfix
2021-04-03 19:48
Not surprised nosrac and the other ppl got tagged. If you didn't know who he is, he's a complete asshole & bully behind a keyboard but a little nerd in real life. When he dies, he often types to the enemy calling them faggots n words and other vile crap. He looks down when he walks in real life. Hope he gets sent to prison and gets "flanked" in there.
2021-04-03 21:46
#424
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Macau s1v9mple
NA matchfixing ofc
2021-04-06 16:44
#433
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Germany So_Dumm
Same is happening in CIS and Asia for years and 0 fucks given still
2021-04-07 17:20
SEE YA IN JAIL FINALLY GET CAUGHT LULULUL
2021-04-08 04:11
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