OG eye flameZ as potential new fifth - Report

The Israeli prospect could soon find himself making the jump to a bigger team.

OG have expressed an interest in signing Endpoint star Shahar "⁠flameZ⁠" Shushan, as first reported by Cybersport.pl and confirmed by HLTV.org. The promising 17-year-old is high on the list of targets drawn up by OG, who are also reportedly interested in Michał "⁠MICHU⁠" Müller.

Both players are still options for the team led by Aleksi "⁠Aleksib⁠" Virolainen, who are expected to make a decision shortly as the roster lock for the BLAST Premier Spring Showdown draws near.

flameZ has averaged a 1.12 rating since joining Endpoint

flameZ has been competing with Endpoint for seven months, helping them qualify for ESL Pro League Season 13 and climb up the world rankings. He came into the spotlight at the start of 2021, when four of the players on the HLTV Top 20 earmarked him as a player to watch, praising not only his skill but communication and approach to the game.

After a one-month competitive break following a group stage exit from ESL Pro League Season 13, OG are expected to debut their new roster at the BLAST Premier Spring Showdown, which will run between April 13 and 18.

Luís "MIRAA" Mira contributed to this story

Israel Shahar 'flameZ' Shushan
Shahar 'flameZ' Shushan
Age:
17
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
253
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.67
Finland Aleksi 'Aleksib' Virolainen
Aleksi 'Aleksib' Virolainen
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.97
Maps played:
875
KPR:
0.65
DPR:
0.66
Poland Michał 'MICHU' Müller
Michał 'MICHU' Müller
Age:
24
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1589
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.68
POG
2021-04-05 14:54
61 replies
#286
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Germany Die_Linke
flameZ > Michu
2021-04-05 17:02
26 replies
+1
2021-04-05 17:03
#294
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Finland supanova
+1
2021-04-05 17:17
+1
2021-04-05 17:20
#302
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Russia Kir1323
+1
2021-04-05 17:27
+1
2021-04-05 18:14
+1
2021-04-05 18:17
+1
2021-04-05 18:17
#340
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Russia WiHuu
+1
2021-04-05 18:40
#342
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United States MemeCrea
+1
2021-04-05 18:46
#361
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Poland Pechowy
Maybe in year or two. Right now MICHU>flamez
2021-04-05 19:32
6 replies
#390
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Finland Jambi_
-1
2021-04-05 21:14
in 2019 michu was better but right now flamez is 2x better than michu
2021-04-05 21:23
3 replies
flamez extremely overrated lmao
2021-04-05 21:43
2 replies
in my opinion he is one of the biggest talent on the world if he join to og he have chance to show this but it's only my opinion and I like him so my opinion not be objective
2021-04-05 22:38
michu too
2021-04-05 23:16
#449
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Sweden Albikin
But flamez is 17 while michu is 24, if you are looking short term michu is just a better player. But long term flamez is only 17 meaning he will be way better
2021-04-06 09:42
+1
2021-04-05 19:35
+1 RIP ENDPOINT
2021-04-05 19:37
+1
2021-04-05 20:00
+1
2021-04-05 20:51
#389
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Finland Jambi_
+1
2021-04-05 21:13
obvious
2021-04-05 21:18
kekW , sure.
2021-04-05 21:43
+1 absolutely
2021-04-05 21:52
+1
2021-04-06 08:08
#471
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Israel xazetti
+1
2021-04-06 14:44
#343
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United Kingdom X2erNaL
PLEASENOPLEASENOPLEASENOPLEASENOPLEASENOPLEASENOPLEASENOPLEASENOPLEASENOPLEASENOPLEASENOPLEASENOPLEASENOPLEASENOPLEASENOPLEASENOPLEASENOPLEASENOPLEASENOPLEASENOPLEASENOPLEASENOPLEASENOPLEASENOPLEASENOPLEASENOPLEASENOPLEASENOPLEASENOPLEASENOPLEASENOPLEASENO FLAMEZ IS THE ONE PERSON KEEPING THE UK RELEVENT RIGHT NOW ;-;
2021-04-05 18:47
30 replies
#349
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Romania dac1an
MANTUU UK PRIDE
2021-04-05 19:01
25 replies
#375
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Poland KeelOO
Mantuu is polish. He born in PL and he is living in PL he has polish girlfriend, his whole familly speaking polish and are from Poland
2021-04-05 20:13
24 replies
And was raised and has lived primarily in the UK.
2021-04-05 23:49
8 replies
#425
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Poland KeelOO
it doesnt make him British
2021-04-06 01:48
7 replies
hopefully one day a reporter can ask him to clarify this, cause I see this a lot where they debate if he is british or polish
2021-04-06 02:18
5 replies
#429
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Poland KeelOO
He want to have UK flag and he feels more British because he lived in UK for most of his time. BUT he was born in Poland and he is living in Poland and his family is polish so for me there is nothing to debate about
2021-04-06 02:21
3 replies
Could have a British passport
2021-04-06 02:42
2 replies
He does.
2021-04-06 10:20
1 reply
then he's a brit
2021-04-06 16:02
#500
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Poland kerlito4
some time ago when he was playing in some German team reported asked him and I he said that he is using British flag becouse he lives in UK from his childhood but he fully identify as a polish basically mantu said just what KeelOO writes above I found that interview on his liquidpedia page but it's in polish
2021-04-07 23:21
It makes him a dual citizen. 2 main factors shape a person, genetic/biological and environment, ie. society around you, if he's been raised and lived the bulk of his life in the UK he'll have been hugely influenced by that, clearly he was as he choses to sport the British flag on his profile over the Polish flag. He's British and Polish ultimately, why do people have difficulty coming to terms with that.
2021-04-06 10:18
#420
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Finland Lindeni
He's British and Polish.
2021-04-06 01:09
1 reply
#424
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Poland KeelOO
he is doing DNA test actually but for me he is mor elikely PL
2021-04-06 01:47
ukrainian gf+lived entire life in uk
2021-04-06 01:44
5 replies
#426
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Poland KeelOO
ukrainian? wut
2021-04-06 01:48
4 replies
yes his gf is ukrainian you mongoloid
2021-04-06 18:16
3 replies
Mantu is the only relevant UK/Polish player atm , so , mr. Poland tries to stay relevant too , lol.
2021-04-06 21:05
#487
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Poland KeelOO
proof? as I see she's100% polish
2021-04-06 23:48
1 reply
have you ever looked at her insta
2021-04-07 03:21
#435
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Finland glip
He has said he doesn't even speak Polish fluently cause he grew up in the UK.
2021-04-06 03:08
3 replies
#476
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Poland KeelOO
ok but why u wrote this?
2021-04-06 16:23
2 replies
cos its a fact
2021-04-06 18:17
1 reply
#486
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Poland KeelOO
but that adds nothing to the discussion
2021-04-06 23:47
dunno wtf u talking about, Mantuu is Indonesian, BnTet is polish, get it.
2021-04-06 12:32
#478
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Romania dac1an
Yeah bro but i was joking chill lol he has polish name , so means he is polish lmao
2021-04-06 17:53
1 reply
#488
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Poland KeelOO
surname also
2021-04-06 23:48
Bro mantuu is on the fucking OG team
2021-04-05 19:14
1 reply
#359
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United Kingdom X2erNaL
Endpoint are doing so well tho atm, really interesting team to watch, i wanna see them go far
2021-04-05 19:19
Jews has always keep england relevant
2021-04-05 20:00
1 reply
+1 jews stay relevant from the shadows
2021-04-05 20:03
rigon>michu,flamez
2021-04-05 20:00
2 replies
In FPL, yes.
2021-04-05 20:16
hopefully sinnopsy can join good team soon i think he is sick too
2021-04-06 02:19
nice
2021-04-05 14:54
1 reply
would be a very nice move
2021-04-05 19:13
#4
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North America pkheat
very nice
2021-04-05 14:54
#5
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Europe X1gma
POG
2021-04-05 14:54
#7
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France Conterob
lul
2021-04-05 14:54
ok
2021-04-05 14:55
RIP endpoint RIP michu career
2021-04-05 14:55
15 replies
much better option then michu
2021-04-05 15:14
10 replies
yes
2021-04-05 15:38
True
2021-04-05 16:03
how is it better for endpoint if michu joins og men
2021-04-05 17:50
7 replies
#363
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Romania SanitySP
because then they dont lose flamez rofl
2021-04-05 19:36
1 reply
oop i meant to say doesnt join* my bad
2021-04-05 19:53
#378
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Poland KeelOO
Cruc1al much better than flameZ. Michu can join Endpoint aswell
2021-04-05 20:16
4 replies
but flamez>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> michu i hope OG go with michu instead
2021-04-05 20:27
3 replies
#422
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Poland KeelOO
both are great and still young actually michu is better he has skill + exp flamez only skill
2021-04-06 01:40
2 replies
flamez a lot more potential but i dont think he is ready yet, he should stay on endpoint for a little while longer
2021-04-06 03:00
1 reply
#436
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Poland KeelOO
indeed Endpoint isnt bad team, they are playing in EPL but meybe flameZ would be more investment and they could sell him in a future for big money or other team can buy him in a short peroid of time
2021-04-06 03:10
why would it rip endpoint? they can sign someone else and the others on the roster are also good.
2021-04-05 22:27
1 reply
Yeah but flamez is their best player individually I expect Thomas to return - a good player as well but still a downgrade
2021-04-06 07:16
Michu could still go to mouz or something tbh. -bymas +michu, make him acor's new sjuush. Keep bymas on the sidelines so he can focus on finishing up his education first.
2021-04-06 10:46
1 reply
i think in bymas role michu would look just as bad individually as bymas does now
2021-04-06 10:55
#10
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Lebanon Dogman69
yes
2021-04-05 14:55
#11
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Sweden Skroomile
Bring in both
2021-04-05 14:55
13 replies
Who would you kick then ? Aleksi stays like valde. Mantu is god and semi good player. Niko just joined so + flameZ og ez top 5 team !
2021-04-05 17:05
12 replies
#305
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Sweden Skroomile
i just dont think Valde is good enough compared to any of them... he has had so many opportunities here but never done anything so u might aswell try something new
2021-04-05 17:38
11 replies
valde is a god
2021-04-05 17:49
#321
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Finland Zikii
What are you talking about? Valde has been if not the best, the second best OG player recently after mantuu...
2021-04-05 18:03
3 replies
#324
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Sweden Skroomile
Well OG hasnt had any good consistent results... you have to change mate... i cant think of any team that had much success with Valde for a long period of time...
2021-04-05 18:08
1 reply
true , he is an average star player.... if OG wantes better results they must bet on another star player...
2021-04-05 20:33
"second best after mantuu" ahahahahah mantuu did absolutely nothing this year other than statpad against teams like nordavind issaa has a higher rating with top 10 filter valde is levels above mantuu
2021-04-08 16:25
#335
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United States poL_aris
he's the best player on OG? Hello?
2021-04-05 18:28
3 replies
#337
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Sweden Skroomile
well they have tried to build a team around him for a few years and it has never ever worked... cmon now
2021-04-05 18:35
2 replies
#339
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United States poL_aris
they had NBK (I like him but LOL) and ISSAA (LOOOOOOOOOOL) playing with 90+ ping from jordan. valde was never the weak link.
2021-04-05 18:37
Valde is their support player, his stats are insane for his roles.
2021-04-05 19:15
i just dont think MICHU is good enough compared to any of them... he has had so many opportunities here but never done anything so u might aswell give up
2021-04-06 02:42
1 reply
but he never had a real chance on a real T1 team
2021-04-06 13:01
#12
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Finland viikeri
nice.!
2021-04-05 14:55
#13
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Finland Cucumber))
POG
2021-04-05 14:55
#14
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United States GameZ_iwnl
expected
2021-04-05 14:55
pogggg
2021-04-05 14:55
#16
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Finland HARD4ENCE
This makes at least more sense than the MICHU pick.
2021-04-05 14:55
16 replies
#45
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Finland OGx
4sure
2021-04-05 14:58
Yep. Michu is tier 3 player for life, flamez could become good
2021-04-05 15:01
13 replies
+1
2021-04-05 15:14
yr mom tier 5
2021-04-05 15:37
4 replies
#223
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Spain Wiricardo
Thorin fan LUL
2021-04-05 15:53
2 replies
Baited much?
2021-04-05 16:35
1 reply
flair checks out
2021-04-05 19:25
Th omegalol rin
2021-04-05 16:27
MICHU is the best polish player, he just was stuck in shitty teams for a long time.
2021-04-05 19:16
6 replies
Theres a reason why he is "stuck" in tier 3.
2021-04-05 19:21
4 replies
Valde was stuck in a tier3 teams. Your point?
2021-04-06 03:25
3 replies
He wasnt and isnt? Whats your point..? He is where he should be.
2021-04-06 12:11
2 replies
North was kinda t2-t3 team, definitely not t1
2021-04-07 03:12
1 reply
It was for a long time 2nd best danish team but he wasnt good enough for astralis to get.
2021-04-07 18:41
says alot about polish cs
2021-04-05 20:05
+1
2021-04-05 15:11
that would be sick ngl
2021-04-05 14:55
VERI NAIS
2021-04-05 14:55
good
2021-04-05 14:55
#22
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Brazil NegoNey
thomas back to action
2021-04-05 14:55
#24
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Big if true. Guy good and can be more explosive than Michu.
2021-04-05 14:55
#25
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Poland kaspr02
cool
2021-04-05 14:55
#26
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Other M@GNU5
yes pls
2021-04-05 14:56
This looks better than michu
2021-04-05 14:56
#28
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United Kingdom badger2908
unsubscribe
2021-04-05 14:56
11 replies
Looks like Endpoint are at their end point
2021-04-05 15:03
10 replies
#117
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United Kingdom tomtom94
This pun is terrible. Please consider deleting your internet and/or taking up a career in casting.
2021-04-05 15:13
8 replies
xaxaxaxa
2021-04-05 15:19
1 reply
kkkkkkkk
2021-04-05 16:04
I'll ask Harry if he wanna cast with me instead of Hugo. Cringe puns all stream long with zero actual casting
2021-04-05 16:11
5 replies
#277
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Romania Xyst
Do you want casters to tell you what a normal person with two working eyes can see?
2021-04-05 16:48
1 reply
That is their job, so yes
2021-04-05 23:50
every commentator does cringe puns, it's kinda the joke
2021-04-05 16:54
They are better than machine and spunj duo for sure
2021-04-05 17:22
1 reply
-1
2021-04-05 20:06
haven't heard that one before :|
2021-04-05 15:17
#29
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Indonesia monako
yees
2021-04-05 14:56
here we go again
2021-04-05 14:56
Pog
2021-04-05 14:56
israel cs-scene poppin'
2021-04-05 14:56
2 replies
yes, 2 players in relevant teams and one already choked insanely hard rofl.
2021-04-05 20:08
1 reply
#417
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United States B0b3rT
Anarkez isn’t bad either
2021-04-06 00:06
#35
mir | 
Peru kearnek
LETS GOOOO
2021-04-05 14:57
pls no
2021-04-05 14:57
MICHU>flamez also michu is free
2021-04-05 14:57
8 replies
Atm thats debatable, but Michu has already had his time to prove himself whereas flamez is still new and huge potential. I dont see why flamez wouldnt improve from this.
2021-04-05 15:04
7 replies
MICHU has better aim and is experienced more, he played in tier1 tournaments already
2021-04-05 15:12
6 replies
Id rather risk flames a lot more potential and more skilled
2021-04-05 15:14
4 replies
MICHU is the one who is more skilled, also why pay 500k for a player when u can get a better one for free?
2021-04-05 15:15
3 replies
Flamez is more skilled he plays on 80 ping and still does well on the server and also OG are most likely the richest org in the scene. so it doesnt matter if he cost 500k
2021-04-05 15:20
1 reply
#171
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Finland Tyk0
Not at all the richest org in the scene. Winning Dota2 majors don't directly mean a wealthy org when the players get all the prize money. Of course OG is well known org which is good for getting sponsors, but when orgs get all their money from sponsors and merch, OG is not at all one of the wealthiest in the scene. Think about Vitality for ex. They have many big sponsors inc. Philips, Adidas, Orange and Renault. On top of that, they have a huge merch collection in contrast to OG having just couple basic shirts and some accessories.
2021-04-05 15:36
#254
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Finland 5way
for long term flamez is much better for OG than Michu
2021-04-05 16:20
Michus experience doesnt really show since he still requires micromanaging a lot. Its really debatable if michu is better even now. But theres no discussion which one will be better in a year from now. It will be flamez by far.
2021-04-05 15:15
#39
i am | 
Finland iBait
Must be nice being a small esports news site when HLTV can just swoop in and take all the traffic from your work
2021-04-05 14:58
1 reply
0/8
2021-04-05 15:05
#40
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Germany Droidd
hopefully this is not another bymas :( I want him to do good
2021-04-05 14:57
2 replies
Tbh I dont think bymas was ever very promising. Maybe this guy is another ropz?
2021-04-05 15:05
1 reply
#92
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Germany Droidd
Hopefully
2021-04-05 15:06
now this
2021-04-05 14:57
Well deserved if it happens
2021-04-05 14:58
#43
RpK | 
France HeyU1
But didn't they just buy MICHU as fifth player?
2021-04-05 14:58
3 replies
#49
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Finland OGx
No
2021-04-05 14:59
#57
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Poland Roxin
They dont need to buy him - he is free agent
2021-04-05 15:00
1 reply
#102
RpK | 
France HeyU1
ah oki
2021-04-05 15:08
How about the conscription?
2021-04-05 14:58
1 reply
Yea I want to know this too
2021-04-05 16:16
Nice
2021-04-05 14:58
imagine choosing this guy over Michu wtf
2021-04-05 14:58
14 replies
#54
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Finland OGx
Rising star 17 years old ngl can be really good
2021-04-05 14:59
Michu so overrated
2021-04-05 15:00
1 reply
#173
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Poland grapeeeee
Flamez is star player, and michu is not. As an Entry michu would be better in OG. He more fit to this team ( and he is free)
2021-04-05 15:37
Imagine not choosing 17yr old talent over a player thats been playing in tier 3 for 6 years. Theres a reason michu never made it to better teams. Flamez is already even better.
2021-04-05 15:11
8 replies
The reason is he had bad luck regarding teams. He was like the no.1 talent in poland
2021-04-05 15:47
7 replies
was, is he still?
2021-04-05 16:06
1 reply
dycha
2021-04-05 17:26
Thats a valid reason if he would be newer guy to the scene but he's a veteran. He hasnt been a superior standout player in tier 3 either so thats about it.
2021-04-05 19:17
4 replies
Imagine choosing a 17 year olds who never plays Lan, always been on underdog teams and assume already that he can handle pressure well. Flamezz is a bit overated right now
2021-04-06 03:29
3 replies
Yeah imagine picking up ropz and zywoo.. Flamez might be overrated right now, but theres no reason to believe he isnt better than michu in few months if he actually goes to OG. Michu is lacking on fundamentals after 7 years of competitive play.. Dudes been playing in a team when flamez was 9 or 10 years old, yet it doesnt really show. I mean cmon guys, michu has reached his ceiling, it is what it is.
2021-04-06 12:20
2 replies
They should try both and look. I mean Michu is playing entry-fragger. Probably, the hardest position after IGL. You're right thought, Flamezz can have probably a high-celling skill. I just feel the guy is over-hyped. He never faces any stuggles yet. Yes, he got the passion, but the passion last and you still have to perform. And look Bymas without proper micro-managing. I feel OG should play a bit, just a bit more loose. And i'm not sure if Michu reachs his ceiling, he is still young. For me, they should try Flamezz for a couple of event before signing him. but Ropz and Zywoo have played t2-t3 before and did some lans. Zywoo was known behind the french scene.
2021-04-06 16:01
1 reply
You're right though, OG needs a star player. At the same time, Aleksib's strats don't rely much on firepower. Maybe if you consider Sergei, but the old Ence has not really starplayer. OG was kinda the same. Maybe, He doesn't play around "loose cannon"
2021-04-06 16:09
i mean Michu took 1 year off from CS, so we dont know if he even is playing decent.
2021-04-05 17:48
1 reply
#331
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Poland Roxin
,,took one year off'' not like he wasnt in Envy (yes i know he hasn't played many maps there) but still u cant call this a year off
2021-04-05 18:18
#DreamOG
2021-04-05 14:58
Good, michu is overrated anyway
2021-04-05 14:59
Thomas popping the champagne right now
2021-04-05 14:59
1 reply
#350
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Argentina WaSTe_D
+1 jajajaj lol
2021-04-05 19:02
#53
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United Kingdom C00K1E
og if you do this england will be withdrawing any support gained from your use of mantuu.
2021-04-05 14:59
5 replies
#58
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Finland OGx
l8r nerd
2021-04-05 15:00
ok fake jonty
2021-04-05 15:05
1 reply
+1
2021-04-05 16:06
#89
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Slovenia dootie
no1 cares
2021-04-05 15:06
cya in 10
2021-04-05 15:42
I guess 6 man roster? Michu as sub? FlameZ is somehow good for OG since thomas seen playing some fpl with enpoint
2021-04-05 15:00
#59
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Bulgaria goshyy
RIP Endpoint
2021-04-05 15:00
#60
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Latvia FieryBlood
ISSAA fucking fuming right now But oh well, I was fine with Michu, but wanted someone younger, now I;m really happy
2021-04-05 15:00
13 replies
#71
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Finland OGx
well flamez can leave israel for a bootcamp
2021-04-05 15:02
3 replies
#74
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Latvia FieryBlood
yes i know was joke about how arabs hate israelis
2021-04-05 15:03
2 replies
#77
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Finland OGx
oh ok i didnt get that have a nice day
2021-04-05 15:04
XD
2021-04-05 15:43
#75
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Jordan Zereeni
do you think he cares? They were playing fpl some time ago
2021-04-05 15:04
8 replies
#83
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Latvia FieryBlood
no, i know issaa is a nice guy, was just a joke
2021-04-05 15:05
7 replies
#91
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Jordan Zereeni
yeah, btw the og dota roster had a jordanian and an Israeli together lol they won 2 majors
2021-04-05 15:06
5 replies
#229
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Israel McBeany
yeah dude jordanians are pretty cool
2021-04-05 15:56
1 reply
+1
2021-04-05 18:11
make love, not wacraft <3 :)
2021-04-05 16:54
2 replies
South park <3
2021-04-05 17:47
1 reply
well also, but it's first a world of warcraft achievement :D but yeah it's one of the best episodes.
2021-04-05 18:30
We dont hate israel people
2021-04-05 17:48
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
2021-04-05 15:00
#63
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Ukraine Sla1ter
GOOD
2021-04-05 15:01
Good move, the potential upside of working with FlameZ seem higher than some of the other options that have been discussed
2021-04-05 15:01
Interesting
2021-04-05 15:01
Endpoint back to #50
2021-04-05 15:02
#70
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Netherlands itsm
Yet again endpoint farming underground talents going to big organization. Save cruc1al!!
2021-04-05 15:02
2 replies
+1 Save our Lord and Savior CRUC1AL, together with Chris 'BongJ' de Jong.
2021-04-05 15:06
to think this endpoint/epsilon had blamef k1to brokyy smooya and flamez at one point
2021-04-06 05:11
go 4 michu ani flamez both.... kick niko... ezyyyy
2021-04-05 15:03
1 reply
Aree bhai bhai
2021-04-05 15:07
Looks like OG reads HLTV :P FlameZ is among the best pickup OG could make depending on the buyout but doubt he's very expensive yet but he will become expensier in the future so better pick up him now when they still can. He's both the type of player they need and has a bright future ahead so could be a smart to pick him up now before price rises by 3x. I'd be ok with +MICHU -niko though
2021-04-05 15:06
wow.. this is a very good move for him
2021-04-05 15:05
OG new FaZe?
2021-04-05 15:05
Breaking: Jordanian evicted to make room for Israeli
2021-04-05 15:06
damn if this goes through then rip endpoint but OG might be looking at a couple of silverware.
2021-04-05 15:06
2 replies
endpoint +alex then ez top 50
2021-04-05 15:08
1 reply
#284
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Hungary Matteo05
I think that the mezii option would be better.
2021-04-05 17:00
hell yeah
2021-04-05 15:07
#98
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Denmark Jonasnhj
Would be cool to see
2021-04-05 15:07
who?
2021-04-05 15:08
Where those Poles who were blaming me for shitting on Polish Journalist who were only follow rumors? See how media works and dont be so tunnel vision in outcomes
2021-04-05 15:08
Nice!
2021-04-05 15:09
#106
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Finland EdiEz
Nice!
2021-04-05 15:10
#107
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Finland Doto_top1
If this happens then this year would be really good year for israel cs.
2021-04-05 15:10
#108
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Denmark ghostan11
better pick up than michu.
2021-04-05 15:10
8 replies
ghostan11 nope
2021-04-05 15:12
1 reply
#125
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Denmark ghostan11
lmfao you again.
2021-04-05 15:15
never
2021-04-05 15:47
5 replies
#213
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Denmark ghostan11
nt fakeflagger
2021-04-05 15:49
4 replies
no?
2021-04-05 15:50
3 replies
#217
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Denmark ghostan11
0/8
2021-04-05 15:50
2 replies
im ukrainan but i dont live there anymore so nt pölse
2021-04-05 15:51
1 reply
#221
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Denmark ghostan11
lmfao even worse than being a fakeflagger.
2021-04-05 15:52
flamez has so much more potential than michu
2021-04-05 15:11
LETS GOOOOO
2021-04-05 15:12
This is more like it lol. I was like "Wtf?" when people talked about Michu lol.
2021-04-05 15:13
Is he really that good and ready for continuous T1 games? Very interesting to watch the development for sure
2021-04-05 15:15
NOOOO +MICHU plss
2021-04-05 15:15
#130
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Europe Cirros_V2
Flamez crazy player but michu better choice
2021-04-05 15:16
There is Calyx you duma$$ OG.
2021-04-05 15:17
POG been thinking about this move for ages, finally!!
2021-04-05 15:17
#136
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United Kingdom Ad4mmm_
Endpoint mezii incoming
2021-04-05 15:18
1 reply
mezii or Thomas lol
2021-04-05 15:38
Holy fuck, choosing between FlameZ and MICHU. This is a tough one. I believe they're both riflers right? I forget if FlameZ is an awper or not, but if he is, I think they might want to go with him, to free up Mantuu.
2021-04-05 15:21
3 replies
Flamez is a rifler and quite selfless too. Seen him entry quite a lot on endpoint
2021-04-05 15:57
2 replies
Gotcha. I still don't know who I would pick out of those two, both are really good.
2021-04-05 16:44
1 reply
I think flamez was better for long run. He was young and still can be nurture as player
2021-04-05 17:26
makes sense, while mezii would be nice i think it's way more likely they just bring back thomas
2021-04-05 15:22
wtf michu > flamez why lul
2021-04-05 15:23
1 reply
3/8 for the attempt.
2021-04-05 15:32
Finally I can get his cfg on prosetting
2021-04-05 15:26
1 reply
2021-04-05 15:28
POOOOOGGGGG
2021-04-05 15:26
#152
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Finland Yumalauta
very good
2021-04-05 15:27
This is actually kinda sick ngl
2021-04-05 15:28
wtf?!?!??! endpoint>og soon!
2021-04-05 15:28
Finally!!!!!
2021-04-05 15:28
-niko -mantuu +spinx +anarkez israel cs pogchamp
2021-04-05 15:31
3 replies
#165
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India SKS_1337
Spinx IGL no?
2021-04-05 15:33
2 replies
No snappi is igling on ence
2021-04-05 16:01
mens i just want to see israel cs dominate the world
2021-04-06 13:26
Good!
2021-04-05 15:32
#160
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Finland kappaboi
interesting
2021-04-05 15:32
#163
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Greece RedWinter
-bot niko +michu and flamez
2021-04-05 15:33
1 reply
0/8 expected from havu fan
2021-04-05 15:40
looks good. Much better than michu
2021-04-05 15:34
#167
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India SKS_1337
Hopefully I can buy the OG merch before it goes out of stock as OG gonna be #1 NUMBA WANNNN
2021-04-05 15:34
daily reminder plays on 60 ping
2021-04-05 15:34
3 replies
Issa was 80 so is an upgrade
2021-04-05 17:21
he lives in london i think
2021-04-08 16:27
1 reply
no man i have him in steam , he live in israel
2021-04-08 16:58
kid: 'mom can we get a ropz?' mom: 'we have a ropz at home' >ropz at home
2021-04-05 15:35
1 reply
LMAO 10/10
2021-04-06 13:33
This is interesting. OG has done this kind of approach before. I remember they were kinda divided between Jamppi and mantuu before deciding to go with the latter. MICHU still is a great addition though. More experience, good firepower, knows his role.
2021-04-05 15:37
4 replies
They decide pick mantuu because of Jamppi's VAC ban and he wasnt an option so they start looking elsewhere and found mantuu.
2021-04-05 16:47
1 reply
That said, they always have the upper hand. There isn't a single candidate for OG that wasn't well thought before getting signed.
2021-04-05 19:07
Yo le noob, They never was a choice to be had between them, first OG wanted poizon who got snatched by CoL, then they tried Jamppi but his VAC ban resurfaced, and they took mantuu as the leftover guy :/
2021-04-05 21:56
1 reply
Yeah maybe they weren't as divided as I mentioned before, but my point was more direct at #352
2021-04-06 02:47
FlameZ strong! OG Strong!
2021-04-05 15:37
flameZ would be a better option instead of MICHU tbf, hope OG get him.
2021-04-05 15:37
I mean he will have the same issue as issa i guess? VISA will always fuck bad internet etc
2021-04-05 15:38
4 replies
#194
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Israel GrandpaZ
1. The internet here is way better than jordan 2. Were having way less visa issues than our neighboring countries. 3. 2/3 of the people here are vaccinated roughly 4. Lans will prob be back in the upcoming year.
2021-04-05 15:45
Issa plays on 85-100 ping. FlameZ on 60-70 and we see how good he is and the things he can do with that.
2021-04-05 15:46
doubt it, Usrael is going full negev vaccinating
2021-04-05 15:48
1 reply
full negev vaccinating hahahahahaha
2021-04-05 20:25
#182
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
this is surely interesting
2021-04-05 15:39
good choice, very interested in og now
2021-04-05 15:39
3 replies
#416
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Finland OGx
babe <3
2021-04-05 23:58
2 replies
bro im not in to man on man type shit
2021-04-06 01:20
1 reply
#461
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Finland OGx
me neither stepbro
2021-04-06 12:28
Overrated
2021-04-05 15:40
#189
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Israel shade175
flamEZ
2021-04-05 15:42
NOOOOOOOOOOO
2021-04-05 15:43
2 replies
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeees
2021-04-05 15:47
#415
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Finland OGx
wooooooooooooooo
2021-04-05 23:57
Apparently OG thinks we are just at the begining of the pandemic, they switch a LANer for an onliner lol Benching 2 tier2 players for 2 tier4 is risky but why not, sometimes miracle happens
2021-04-05 15:45
Overrated but ok
2021-04-05 15:46
NOO MICHU
2021-04-05 15:46
#211
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Luxembourg TheBudi34
rip uk cs
2021-04-05 15:49
#218
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Poland sosiad
He is so overrated
2021-04-05 15:51
Everyone "that would be siiiiick" hltv after one match "hahaha flameWHO?? they choose flamez instead of michu? hahaaha"
2021-04-05 15:52
sign flameZ bench aleksiBOT get chrisj igl og top 10
2021-04-05 15:56
2 replies
you are crazy
2021-04-05 17:57
#493
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Poland r4v1x
-aleksib +firepower
2021-04-07 14:48
og best israelian team
2021-04-05 15:58
#233
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Finland H0rnPub
Ez top 3
2021-04-05 15:59
#236
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Poland xBenek
FLAMEZ BETTER THAN MICHU? KEKW
2021-04-05 16:01
4 replies
#255
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Finland 5way
yes?
2021-04-05 16:21
wdym? flamez is better
2021-04-05 16:47
2 replies
#501
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Poland xBenek
No he is not
2021-04-08 15:46
1 reply
flag checks out
2021-04-08 16:23
B i told you
2021-04-05 16:03
endpoint is better than OG at the moment I don't think he will tell him go to OG
2021-04-05 16:07
would be a nice move
2021-04-05 16:13
endpoint back to tier3 feel bad for Cruc1al
2021-04-05 16:24
1 reply
+1, rip israel carry
2021-04-05 16:32
Flamez pog
2021-04-05 16:34
for the people who say flameZ is an overrated player : 1. you cant say overrated about someone who didnt get the chance to prove himself yet at tier 1 (endpoint cant really do something at tier 1 , and at the groupstage of epl s13 he played so well) 2. he is from israel , he is playing against eu teams with 80 ping and he rapes them so I believe he will dominate with 5 ping. 3. dont forget he is only 17 years old and he has a lot more to offer so get ready to see him at the top 20 HLTV for 2022 or even 2021 with his transition to OG. 4. Aleksib will make this guy from a rising star to unstoppable beast :)
2021-04-05 16:37
5 replies
I'm 99% sure he lives in the UK, so 2. isn't true. Correct me if I'm wrong.
2021-04-05 16:41
4 replies
#285
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Israel Ohadle2
No, he lives in Israel
2021-04-05 17:01
1 reply
Ah, well I'll just believe you because of your flag, you probably know more than me, didn't know that, thanks)
2021-04-05 17:18
He lives in israel, from what i know he is still in school for 3 more months
2021-04-05 17:37
1 reply
2021-04-05 17:46
This could work actually
2021-04-05 16:44
maybe i can finally support og now?
2021-04-05 16:48
Spinx > flamez
2021-04-05 16:48
#283
try | 
Brazil 1930
he looks argentinian or chilean
2021-04-05 16:56
LETS GO
2021-04-05 17:05
MICHU > flamieZ
2021-04-05 17:05
#291
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Israel ZiinTotH
Just like Fly in DotA, good luck
2021-04-05 17:08
xDDDDDDDDDD he sucks
2021-04-05 17:12
well deserved
2021-04-05 17:16
#299
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Brazil vacadura
he good. 1000x times better than issaa (not sure if he's better than michu rn)
2021-04-05 17:25
#303
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Norway Napapijri
Berlin International Gaming eye flamez as potential new fifth
2021-04-05 17:31
Would be a greater signing than Michu
2021-04-05 17:46
Big Pog, hopefully they end up signing him!
2021-04-05 17:48
#314
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Australia jks_top1
pog
2021-04-05 17:50
nooo endpoint :(((
2021-04-05 17:51
Wasnt MICHU? I mean, I was hoping for it for long time. Glad to see OG trying get better
2021-04-05 17:52
No
2021-04-05 17:56
#320
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Poland jakubyku
what about ping issues? wasn't like flamez on 70 ms?
2021-04-05 17:58
Michu is a beast though
2021-04-05 18:04
espiranto>michu,flamez
2021-04-05 18:07
#325
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Russia Feuerbach
good idea
2021-04-05 18:09
FlameZ > washed up michu
2021-04-05 18:15
Seems better than MICHU
2021-04-05 18:21
Unpopular opinion: CRUC1AL deserves a better team?
2021-04-05 18:24
1 reply
-AdreN +crucial
2021-04-05 20:20
ITT some weird "politics" flamewar lol.
2021-04-05 18:26
Why on earth would they pick another player with high ping issues?? Also they are lucky that issa didnt behead them so why risk it again
2021-04-05 18:36
2 replies
Why would issa behead them and flameZ can move to EU
2021-04-05 20:32
wtf?
2021-04-08 16:31
#341
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Saudi Arabia Xpicyy
Jordanian gets replaced by an Israeli Classic
2021-04-05 18:42
#344
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Bulgaria AboveYall
*SHiPZ exists* *nah fam we r goin for fLaMeZ* OMEGALUL
2021-04-05 18:49
2 replies
Everything checks out
2021-04-05 20:32
Everything checks out
2021-04-05 21:59
#345
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Finland Nollegee
Very nice
2021-04-05 18:49
hmmm, ok, i approve, though whats about ping issues? I guess Issaa and FlameZ both have ping issues, but at least for FlameZ it's easier to travel? Because Issaa was out not just because of ping, but also because of traveling ban
2021-04-05 18:56
6 replies
Yeah israelians are vaccinated almost 100% soon but OG has not opted for playing from one spot yet, they'd have to come up with some kinda big brother programme at least since flamez is only 17 yrs. Hard to see this kid coming to somewhere in europe and living alone just for the ping issue.
2021-04-05 22:34
5 replies
I just remember Aleksi saying during HLTV podcast that they tried to bootcamp in Portugal, but they soon realized that it's not possible because of ISSAA inability to leave Jordan. I mean of course it's impossible for them to play together all the time given that it's an international roster, but at least OG org can organize bootcamp sometimes, which is good and very needed. P.S. Finland = power, much respect bro
2021-04-06 12:27
If flameZ will join OG and he will have to move to EU permanently, i would say that his big brother will come with him, flameZ got a big brother who is also playing professional csgo currently for team finset, if flameZ will move he will go with him 99%.
2021-04-06 13:42
3 replies
He’s gonna be drafted next year, I don’t know if he wants to risk military prison!
2021-04-06 16:38
2 replies
A lot of people can get of this if they really want to, im sure he will a way out of this, if not this is a big problem
2021-04-06 19:55
1 reply
Or he can get a sportsman’s status
2021-04-07 19:33
Good move but the ping , will it be an issue
2021-04-05 19:03
finally OG makes good decision
2021-04-05 19:44
#367
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Biske
Poggers
2021-04-05 19:59
#376
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Brazil d00kzera
EG Xeppa incoming
2021-04-05 20:15
MICHU BETTER PLAYER AND FREE
2021-04-05 20:19
1 reply
2021-04-06 01:07
#386
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Chile cristiaan
MICHU > botZ
2021-04-05 20:35
Rip Endpoint
2021-04-05 22:10
another high pinger lmao
2021-04-05 22:10
#401
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Finland RamboAAA
Just an upgraded Hellraisers /close
2021-04-05 22:11
1 reply
hellraisers in 2018 >>>> og rn
2021-04-08 16:32
He probably has ping issues too...
2021-04-05 22:45
flamez, my pupil
2021-04-05 23:08
#408
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Poland SebL
flameZ is one of the best, if not the best player they can pick up, this guy will be one of the best players in the world at some point, I can tell you that. OG will be so powerful if they will take him, I really think they can be one of the best teams in the world. GL boys.
2021-04-05 23:11
2 replies
Delusion. He's good, but not that good. It will take a long time and flameZ wont make ShitG good alone.
2021-04-05 23:19
1 reply
#483
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Poland SebL
He wouldn't have to do it alone? OG has got some good players. valde frags really well, Aleksib is a good leader, valde as this supportive element works well, valde overall is one of the best players in the world imo., the duo of him and flameZ would be sick.
2021-04-06 20:13
I been watching endpoint games and flamez isn’t even that good. Watched mightymax outfrag him like 4 times in a row
2021-04-05 23:41
Mantuu benched too? xD It's probably the only logical answer. Why they will chose flameZ over MICHU? Aleksib Valde niko MICHU FlameZ Nice t2/T3 team, rip valde
2021-04-06 01:07
2 replies
least logical answer here
2021-04-06 03:34
1 reply
LMFAO
2021-04-06 10:57
michu is insanly hard-working player wtf
2021-04-06 02:30
#446
 | 
Russia ToughGuy
Flamie left navi for this KEKW
2021-04-06 07:34
next jump flamEZ
2021-04-06 08:55
#450
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Asia flameZzZ
I really hope u will get good time with Aleksib my man
2021-04-06 09:45
-mantu +anarkez
2021-04-06 10:15
flamez tier 2 max
2021-04-06 11:00
This would be pretty cool
2021-04-06 12:30
-NIKO +MICHU +flamEZ
2021-04-06 12:46
Stonks
2021-04-06 13:34
yesssss
2021-04-06 13:39
#472
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Israel xazetti
FlamEZ Pog
2021-04-06 14:44
#481
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Russia scorchy
rip career
2021-04-06 18:20
nooo ffs okay, the Z at the end is correct but we said ropz not flamez
2021-04-06 21:46
Nah jerax will coming back on TI20 with the prize pool of $40M.
2021-04-07 03:52
#496
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Finland H0rnPub
Announcement tomorrow 18:30 CET, they need to come up with introduction video
2021-04-07 19:28
2 replies
They are not in fantasy because of roster change((((((((
2021-04-07 19:34
1 reply
#499
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Finland H0rnPub
i think it'll update
2021-04-07 19:37
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