ex-Winstrike left fuming over failed deal

A move to an organisation fell through at the last minute despite the players having already signed their contracts.

ex-Winstrike have been dealt a serious blow after seeing a CIS-based organisation back out of a deal to sign the team at the last minute. According to head coach Dmitry "⁠hooch⁠" Bogdanov, the players had agreed to terms with this unnamed organisation – described by the 34-year-old as "very respected and quite successful in the CIS region" – and put their signatures on the contracts when they were informed that the deal was off.

hooch is disappointed with the way some organisations conduct business

"We started counting the days until the official announcement of our future team when the sad news came," hooch wrote in a Twitlonger post. "They said that the contracts would not be signed because the organisation does not have a budget for our team.

"Yes, you read that right, they signed us first, and then they said they had no money. I've always thought that professional sports teams and normal esports teams have a shareholder meeting every quarter to make decisions on the transfer policy and plans for the future of the company, and only after that do they decide to buy or sell players. But I guess that anything is possible in CIS esports."

The Russian team will continue their search for a new home after leaving Winstrike at the end of March following "constant breaches of contractual obligations". hooch lamented that the players are back to square one after being pressured by this organisation into rejecting the other offers they had on the table.

"I wish organizations would respect players and not try to get rich using slave contracts and making empty promises every day," he said.

"There is not much we can do about it, though. We can cry and accuse the whole world of unfair treatment because we do our job honestly and train six days a week in order to become better, and such situations are very frustrating. Or we can continue training hard and working."

ex-Winstrike, who have held the No.22 spot in the world rankings since March 1, finished runners-up to mousesports on Wednesday in Snow Sweet Snow 3 and are in contention for a spot in ESL Pro League Season 14, having qualified for the ESEA Premier playoffs after topping their group with a 7-1 record.

ex-Winstrike, who can be contacted by email, look as follows:

Russia Aleksey "⁠El1an⁠" Gusev
Kazakhstan Viktor "⁠Lack1⁠" Boldyrev
Russia Aleksey "⁠NickelBack⁠" Trofimov
Russia Vladislav "⁠Krad⁠" Kravchenko
Russia Igor "⁠Forester⁠" Bezotecheskiy

Russia Dmitry "⁠hooch⁠" Bogdanov (coach)

Russia Aleksey 'El1an' Gusev
Aleksey 'El1an' Gusev
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.12
Maps played:
850
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.63
Kazakhstan Viktor 'Lack1' Boldyrev
Viktor 'Lack1' Boldyrev
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
463
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.69
Russia Aleksey 'NickelBack' Trofimov
Aleksey 'NickelBack' Trofimov
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
936
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.67
Russia Vladislav 'Krad' Kravchenko
Vladislav 'Krad' Kravchenko
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
713
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.68
Russia Igor 'Forester' Bezotecheskiy
Igor 'Forester' Bezotecheskiy
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
755
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.67
Bruh how does this even happen, you sign a contract and then the org doesn’t have any funds, what?? Also they should expose this org so nobody else signs for them. CIS scene has too much talent to be treated like this!
2021-04-08 15:00
36 replies
it was EXTREMUM iirc
2021-04-08 15:01
8 replies
#131
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Kazakhstan Puchara
nah, i guess it was hr
2021-04-08 15:46
3 replies
HR was also my guess but i dont think they would sign other palyers while having other team signed.
2021-04-08 16:55
2 replies
#214
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Russia NyC1R
Overdrive (cis insider) said that hr have already disbanded
2021-04-08 17:47
1 reply
Yeah i was already informed. thanks anyway
2021-04-08 17:56
#149
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Russia inejxx
Source? I've not seen it, only that EXTREMUM wanted to sign them before, but not about this particular case.
2021-04-08 16:22
1 reply
#257
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Russia M1shV4T
Source: his brain
2021-04-08 21:33
nah it was c9
2021-04-08 16:25
Prob not extremum because if they can buy the ex 100t roster they sure have a lot of money
2021-04-10 01:36
probably signed an NDA it's CIS after all
2021-04-08 15:04
2 replies
Probably. But then that team backed out of the deal thus nullifying their contracts and their NDA’s. They probably just don’t wanna talk shit and make themselves look unprofessional when they’re trying to get signed lol.
2021-04-08 19:12
1 reply
yeah, I guess not the best look to go trashtalk an org with whom(??) you nearly signed a contract with
2021-04-08 21:16
+1 man wtf. CIS on the rise and they treat these talents like these. Man if there were no language barriers, EU orgs would more than gladly pick them up
2021-04-08 15:06
#117
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Greece RedWinter
EXTREMUM
2021-04-08 15:33
13 replies
extremum have a lot of money, hooch about HR
2021-04-08 16:21
12 replies
do you have any source or its just speculation?
2021-04-08 16:55
11 replies
6 replies
Well its not much of confirmation its HR but yeah most likely
2021-04-08 18:00
5 replies
As far as I know, Russians have been stating the past few days that Extremum wanted to drop their roster to pick ex-Winstrike, but at the last second HR came into the picture and got the front row. So after NAVI's CEO tweet, it looks like it was true. So they might end up in Extremum anyways.
2021-04-08 18:05
4 replies
extremum would be dumb to drop this team after buyouts they did.
2021-04-08 18:17
3 replies
probably right, but they are not satisfied with the results
2021-04-08 18:20
#260
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Lebanon Dogman69
they will stick together because they are locked into major basically from the RMR points 100T received last year. So they play NA RMR qualifiers
2021-04-08 23:53
1 reply
I meant org not players.
2021-04-09 08:26
they picked up ex 100 thieves, i bet they arent as cheap as ex-winstrike is
2021-04-08 18:00
3 replies
I was talking about HR being the guys without money. I know extremum are rich
2021-04-08 18:00
2 replies
my bad
2021-04-08 18:01
1 reply
Its ok my man. And from others have told me it was most likely HR who did this to ex-winstrike but we dont know fro sure right now.
2021-04-08 18:01
#160
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Portugal antCB
"Bruh how does this even happen, you sign a contract and then the org doesn’t have any funds, what??" R U S S I A or Putinland, whichever you prefer.
2021-04-08 16:31
3 replies
It was organisation from Ukraine but ok mazepa
2021-04-08 17:28
2 replies
#209
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Portugal antCB
potato, potato.
2021-04-08 17:32
so, russia then :D
2021-04-08 18:57
For people saying Extremum,Extremum is backed by some serious people,they wouldn't have budget issues. Hellraisers just dropped their roster,it might be them.
2021-04-08 16:52
3 replies
2021-04-08 16:57
2 replies
Overdrive said so,his info is very reliable.
2021-04-08 16:59
1 reply
That would mean HR has huge money problems if they dropped this team and alsod ont have money for winstrike.
2021-04-08 17:00
#261
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United States Bonzeee
+1
2021-04-09 00:18
CIS scene LUL
2021-04-08 14:52
1 reply
? wtf
2021-04-08 16:04
#5
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Europe Holiwis
These cis Orgs lol
2021-04-08 14:52
#6
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Portugal MGL257
bruh
2021-04-08 14:52
unlucky
2021-04-08 14:53
unluko not new flipside
2021-04-08 14:53
9 replies
#60
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United States Magma_44
I doubt it's Flipsid3, pretty sure it's an American org and not CIS
2021-04-08 15:08
8 replies
#96
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Serbia XD___
cis based org is said in the article
2021-04-08 15:21
7 replies
Flipsid3 is not cis based, they just had an cis team ages ago
2021-04-08 15:34
2 replies
Wrong reply lol
2021-04-08 17:37
#229
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Serbia XD___
oh we were talking about flipsid3, I was thinking he said that org that wanted them was NA
2021-04-08 18:31
2021-04-08 16:58
3 replies
#230
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Serbia XD___
2021-04-08 18:31
2 replies
He said CIS based org so i dont think so.
2021-04-08 18:40
1 reply
#236
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Serbia XD___
it doesn't metter now
2021-04-08 18:40
#10
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Poland BAN_ANIME
CIS orgs OmegaLUL
2021-04-08 14:54
#11
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Brazil hugoooo
If they don't say the name of the org it's useless. Other teamleass players will fall for that org now.
2021-04-08 14:54
34 replies
#29
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Netherlands BigBoyTies
I'm thinking Quantum Bellator. Who else is a respective org? Flipsid3?
2021-04-08 14:58
24 replies
Could be Hellraisers?
2021-04-08 15:03
QBF has a Danish lineup now
2021-04-08 15:03
6 replies
#41
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Netherlands BigBoyTies
True, they have QBF and QB. Are they the same?
2021-04-08 15:03
5 replies
I think so, both team names have similar images on HLTV search so probably
2021-04-08 15:04
4 replies
#51
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Netherlands BigBoyTies
Ahh okay. Then maybe Flipsid3, HellRaisers, etc.
2021-04-08 15:05
3 replies
HR seems likely their org has gone down so much since the ANGEL/ISSAA/woxic lineup
2021-04-08 15:07
2 replies
Could be Empire or Vega too.
2021-04-08 16:21
1 reply
Vega was my guess too. But from #177 its probably HR
2021-04-08 17:02
Would be awesome to see a return from flipsid3, but not if this is their current existence
2021-04-08 15:04
1 reply
Its not flipside liquipedia.net/counterstrike/FlipSid3_Ta.. American org. Edit: also #68
2021-04-08 17:03
pro100?
2021-04-08 15:08
1 reply
#61
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Netherlands BigBoyTies
Good catch!
2021-04-08 15:09
#68
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United Kingdom craZy_y0
Definitely not FlipSid3, FrosT (the owner) retired the org iirc and now coaches 100T's Valorant team.
2021-04-08 15:11
2 replies
#69
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Netherlands BigBoyTies
Aww man!
2021-04-08 15:11
that sucks, i woulda been stoked for new F3
2021-04-09 10:20
Flipsid3 is na organisation not cis lol, beside flipsid3 is already dead
2021-04-08 15:15
3 replies
#82
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Netherlands BigBoyTies
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flipside_Tactics Their CS:GO division isn't.
2021-04-08 15:15
2 replies
Yes it is You sent a wiki article with a flipside lineup that has 2 retired playes, one of which is currently navi's coach... i guess they didn't care to update the article
2021-04-08 16:50
Flipside has currently pUBG team and fighter games "team" nothing else. They even dropped their rocket league team in 2019.
2021-04-08 17:05
> respectful org > QBF PICK ONE HAHAHHAHAHHA
2021-04-08 15:22
1 reply
Respective, not respectful.
2021-04-08 15:23
#143
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Russia xtkjdtr01
Hr
2021-04-08 16:11
Empire
2021-04-08 16:13
Maybe Hellraisers. They have reputation and a while ago, a good csgo team.
2021-04-08 16:15
If they do it's defamation and they can get sued. Unlucky shit.
2021-04-08 15:00
7 replies
Its not deformation if its true tho
2021-04-08 15:03
Defamation (also known as calumny, vilification, libel, slander or traducement) is the oral or written communication of a false statement about another that unjustly harms their reputation and usually constitutes a tort or crime.
2021-04-08 15:08
#72
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Brazil hugoooo
It's not! They have all the emails and messages to prove what they are saying. It would be defamation if they only say something bad and don't prove, it would not be the case.
2021-04-08 15:13
3 replies
They'd have to go into court to submit evidence. And it would scare orgs from working with players who leak information. (Or friends of said org)
2021-04-08 15:26
2 replies
#135
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Brazil hugoooo
hahahaha court my ass, they could just post their own messages on their social media, there is nothing wrong about that
2021-04-08 15:51
1 reply
Flag checks out
2021-04-08 16:37
Definitely its defloration
2021-04-08 16:07
I'm almost 99% sure it's HellRaisers
2021-04-08 15:26
#12
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Sweden RaaCCooN
ok
2021-04-08 14:54
#13
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Ecuador LONE_8122
fuming
2021-04-08 14:54
1 reply
#269
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Brazil victorhsl
one of my favorite words in english
2021-04-09 14:52
#16
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Portugal H3NR
"and train six days a week" That's the problem, no org will want you if you don't train seven days a week. Duh!
2021-04-08 14:54
2 replies
#90
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Slovakia Daev0n
GN spotted
2021-04-08 15:20
1 reply
Pretty sure he was being ironic
2021-04-08 17:45
#17
NiKo | 
Europe trey_
sucks for them, great team
2021-04-08 14:54
#18
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Germany Punico
CIS in an Nutshell
2021-04-08 14:55
i wish Flipside would sign them if they weren’t the org in question
2021-04-08 14:55
1 reply
FlipSid3 are as dead as Titan nearly.
2021-04-08 17:13
Any rumours to what org this was?
2021-04-08 14:55
3 replies
HellRaisers I bet
2021-04-08 14:56
2 replies
Sputnik 5
2021-04-08 14:59
1 reply
#53
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Netherlands BigBoyTies
Trust you bro?
2021-04-08 15:06
HellRaisers? Definitely
2021-04-08 14:55
#24
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Chile cristiaan
gl
2021-04-08 14:56
that's just terrible, the org should be called out for it imho
2021-04-08 14:56
It's HR
2021-04-08 14:57
1 reply
probably
2021-04-08 15:25
Trashraisers
2021-04-08 14:58
1 reply
Fumeraisers
2021-04-08 16:22
#30
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United States PP_Bizon
Ouch, hope they find an org they look promising
2021-04-08 14:58
Absolutely fuming.
2021-04-08 14:59
#34
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Finland iBait
Lost all respect for NaVi
2021-04-08 15:00
2 replies
Blyaaat
2021-04-08 15:05
#84
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Russia ErleN_
+10000000
2021-04-08 15:15
if the team makes pro-league, they will have a org sign them quick, they should just focus on that imo
2021-04-08 15:02
#43
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Sweden axelious
Hellraiser really should sign them It's a good enough team for someone like SK Gaming of Envy to get back in to CS with, even though it's russian
2021-04-08 15:05
Avangar. Has to be.
2021-04-08 15:04
7 replies
My guess too Or Vega
2021-04-08 15:10
2 replies
come to think of it, probably was vega maybe flipsid3 too but probably not
2021-04-08 15:13
1 reply
#130
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United States Bhu_Tang
flipsid3 is us org, not cis
2021-04-08 15:43
#74
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United States BombTaco
Avangar ceased operations iirc
2021-04-08 15:14
1 reply
twitter.com/avangarkz/status/12452449123.. Correct Also flipside ceased operations So it can be Vega, Pro100 or HR. currently.
2021-04-08 17:08
#123
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Greece RedWinter
Didn't Avangar announce their return to CSGO too like a month ago?
2021-04-08 15:35
1 reply
twitter.com/avangarkz/status/12452449123.. Their twitter has this pinned so maybe not. Arent you thinking about danish Quantum Bellator Fire?
2021-04-08 17:09
#47
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Czech Republic forseti12
f
2021-04-08 15:04
CIS region has so many shady orgs... disgusting. Keep your heads up boys, you guys got bright futures. Play so well that this shit org regrets this decision <3
2021-04-08 15:04
gl
2021-04-08 15:05
yikes :(
2021-04-08 15:06
Just to add gas to the fire and knowing how CEOs work I would bet that the someone from Winstrike made a very "important call" to someone at this new org. This happens in corporate and also in regular sports, so my chips are on this - the lack of money is just an excuse.
2021-04-08 15:06
4 replies
#71
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Pakistan LoOuU2
You actually make a very good point! We don't know anything about how or why or what lead to this team terminating their contract with their former org other than "constant breaches of contractual obligations"" which doesn't really explain or specify anything so this might be their way of getting back at them!
2021-04-08 15:11
3 replies
#99
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Slovakia Daev0n
Tbh ex-Winstrike are handling the situation very well. Instead of shouting "they refused to pay our salary" they behave like professionals and don't reveal any specific information.
2021-04-08 15:23
2 replies
#107
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Pakistan LoOuU2
I agree with that too. These guys really have been professional about it and haven't really pinpointed or badmouthed their former org, but that doesn't mean that the former org can't be butthurt about losing these guys, and be at some redemption.
2021-04-08 15:26
Personally i think hooch is the one who is very proffesional like this and others are following his lead he always seemed like class act even as player. (atleast to me)
2021-04-08 17:11
Ofc no hltv users will send shit to his email lol
2021-04-08 15:06
2 replies
No I am going to sign them with my monthly allowance of course lmao
2021-04-08 15:46
1 reply
Belgian monthly allowance might be higher than average russian sallary tho.
2021-04-08 17:12
GL!
2021-04-08 15:09
#63
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Unluko and really unprofessional by the CIS org. His disappointment and anger is valid. Hopefully an up and coming team like Winstrike making strides against T2 and even some T1 teams can find an organization soon whey they are valued and respected!
2021-04-08 15:10
dick move by HR
2021-04-08 15:10
Had to be HR and Flipside
2021-04-08 15:10
5 replies
I are think that
2021-04-08 15:20
flipraisers?
2021-04-08 15:52
2 replies
Hellside
2021-04-08 20:11
1 reply
Fellsaiders
2021-04-08 21:26
Flipside isnt CIS org.
2021-04-08 17:12
Why are people sure it's HR? Don't they have a full line-up already?
2021-04-08 15:11
6 replies
twitter comments point out to that.
2021-04-08 15:15
3 replies
Oh I see now, ty
2021-04-08 15:21
1 reply
yea i saw too, confirms
2021-04-08 15:29
link?
2021-04-08 15:34
they are shady af. it would fit the picture
2021-04-08 15:21
NAVI ceo @ them in the comments
2021-04-08 15:26
forze should drop their washed up roster and pick them
2021-04-08 15:14
1 reply
Which one is cheaper though.
2021-04-08 15:28
seems like it was hellraisers.
2021-04-08 15:14
Then sign with the other teams that actually wanted to give them money from the beginning? Or is that deal off the table now?
2021-04-08 15:15
1 reply
They denied all those deals for the one they signed. Those businesses probably will not offer the same thing since they were not the first choice of the team. I wouldn't as a business. They hold the power now
2021-04-08 15:37
It has to be Empire, no? At least off the top of my head, I can't think of any other remotely large orgs from CIS that aren't already in CS. That is unless Moscow 5 is being rebooted from prison.
2021-04-08 15:15
wow
2021-04-08 15:15
hellraisers for sure
2021-04-08 15:22
unlucko
2021-04-08 15:16
#86
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Finland kappaboi
C9?
2021-04-08 15:17
oh well, someone will sign them
2021-04-08 15:19
Best of luck to this talanted team!
2021-04-08 15:19
classic csgo org behavior F
2021-04-08 15:20
#92
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Kazakhstan KumysPower
Staraya xuynya
2021-04-08 15:20
3 replies
zachem ti tak pro svoego papy
2021-04-08 15:37
2 replies
Dura4ek? Was by gold words from flamie ne znat'?
2021-04-08 16:23
1 reply
ya znayu chto eto slova flamie, no flamie dayn prosto a hooch uvajaemiy chel
2021-04-08 16:44
#95
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Czech Republic Skeng_
Flipside tactics
2021-04-08 15:21
1 reply
Flipside isnt CIS org.
2021-04-08 17:15
they are deserve a org. but i dont understand when this situations, all players are playing like a hulk .d + extra motivation. but in a pro organisation they can lose against tier 3 teams .)
2021-04-08 15:22
probably EXTREMUM, but then AZR rekt them
2021-04-08 15:23
1 reply
AZR Clapped extremum for trying to drop them for team with god El1an and bot nickleback
2021-04-08 15:31
CSGO ecosystem just fucked. Unless you don’t care about any kind of ROI then orgs not really picking up teams.
2021-04-08 15:24
HR??
2021-04-08 15:29
shame on HR
2021-04-08 15:30
Oh man, this sucks. But can the players not take any legal action against the org? Not sure what the clauses are in the signed contract.
2021-04-08 15:33
EXTREMUM Junior
2021-04-08 15:34
2 replies
more like current extremum roster becomes junior
2021-04-08 16:03
1 reply
that would make more sense, or Prodigy, those guys have a great future
2021-04-08 17:14
typical for Unicorns of Love aka UOL
2021-04-08 15:35
I hope Ex-Winstrike manage to find a very decent organisation soon.
2021-04-08 15:37
hello Hellriser
2021-04-08 15:38
#129
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Russia mshkoda
Looks like hr has not enough money for them because of dota2 roster with resolution =/. Cross finger for guys to find another org
2021-04-08 15:44
HR will stick with their bot lineup, but never should have made broken promises...
2021-04-08 15:48
2 replies
#158
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Russia inejxx
they've already disbanded their roster according to overdrive
2021-04-08 16:30
1 reply
Even better, they should stick to dota
2021-04-08 16:34
#134
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France cedd
shameful way to conduct business, hope they get blacklisted by people in the scene
2021-04-08 15:48
It was pro100 is not it? :D :D :D Refer to video youtube.com/watch?v=wrOcGvwVi6A
2021-04-08 15:55
1 reply
Thanks for sharing this.
2021-04-08 21:27
#142
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Poland mich34
wish them all the best!
2021-04-08 16:08
#146
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Russia ToughGuy
Why extremum still holding this trash au roster when u have free ex-winstrike roster who are eager to play
2021-04-08 16:20
2 replies
Because you can't just terminate the contracts of your players
2021-04-08 16:24
#156
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Russia mshkoda
Because they hope this australian guys will secure spot on major, they have rmr points there (north america region). i see no other explanations.
2021-04-08 16:33
hope them find a new org qkcly, they have a great potential
2021-04-08 16:22
damn, should have named the org tbh
2021-04-08 16:23
#157
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Russia inejxx
I hope they will eventually get signed by Vega Squadron, Unique, EXTREMUM (if they're not satisfied with the current roster, there are already rumours of them being interested in the ex-Winstrike roster by the way), or other good Russian organization. The boys should get home.
2021-04-08 16:28
2 replies
Doubt extremum will drop roster till after NA RMR, Extremely high chance of major slot
2021-04-08 16:38
1 reply
#171
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Russia inejxx
I agree, but I don't think that they're going far without roster changes.
2021-04-08 16:40
shame. talented roster stuck without org
2021-04-08 16:31
3 replies
Considering they choke 3 match points yesterday, no pity
2021-04-08 16:39
1 reply
seems like you bet some money on em
2021-04-08 17:06
Exactly. They did so well versus EG and Mouz.
2021-04-08 21:20
#162
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Russia M31F
Hohlo orga kule
2021-04-08 16:32
1 reply
no, it is moskal-kotsap org
2021-04-08 16:39
looks like HLTV has turned into TMZ for the past week
2021-04-08 16:35
1 reply
Would be better if it turned into Worldstar
2021-04-08 18:42
#165
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Portugal dracø
This guys can't catch a break, feelsbadman. But I guess it's better if the deal fell off now rather than the org pull the same move as winstrike mid contract.
2021-04-08 16:37
vega or avangar? or maybe HR
2021-04-08 16:40
7 replies
2021-04-08 17:16
6 replies
sad. good job on enlightening me though that leaves vega or hr. for some reason I think its this two
2021-04-08 18:00
5 replies
Maybe pro100 since they still have some name recognition especially in CIS
2021-04-08 18:01
4 replies
no one will deal with Zeus anymore
2021-04-08 18:28
3 replies
Did something happen? What did he do?
2021-04-08 18:40
2 replies
salary delays and small salaries (100 bucks) some drama for and from ex-pro100 players
2021-04-09 07:29
1 reply
LUL unluko
2021-04-09 08:20
SK Gaming
2021-04-08 16:47
SCAMAZED
2021-04-08 16:54
Nice OCRANA
2021-04-08 16:54
would be nice it is vega and they are back,i really respect mr Kondakov he is a very nice guy
2021-04-08 16:55
#185
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Bulgaria Villagers
"I've always thought that professional sports teams and normal esports teams have a shareholder meeting every quarter to make decisions on the transfer policy and plans for the future of the company" Which esport orgranisation is owned by a sport team?
2021-04-08 16:58
this team is having the unluckiest time rn
2021-04-08 17:02
7 replies
+1 They dont desrve this they are top30 for sure and right now in CS even top 50 is starting to get stacked AF.
2021-04-08 17:17
6 replies
I think the costs for these teams just aren’t justifiable at the moment. Granted they should be pissed after the org agreed & contracts were signed but I mean... CSGOs ecosystem is crumbling without a steady dose of LANs.
2021-04-08 18:37
5 replies
I doubt they are unreasonable they know they are fifth best in CIS atm and CIS market just isnt that big i dont think they are asking more than 10K motnhly (per player)
2021-04-08 18:39
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10k might be over budget at the moment. These orgs are looking at some ROI & if they can’t justify the cost then lol. Maybe sponsors & investors want to move away from CSGO. It could be a laundry list of reasons why the money isn’t there.
2021-04-08 18:43
3 replies
I mean 10K was like absolute max. Imo they asked something between 1.5 - 5 K dollars monthly.
2021-04-08 18:47
2 replies
Ahhh ok ok. Idk the details. Thx
2021-04-08 18:51
1 reply
Me too i am clueless dude i am just guessing.
2021-04-08 18:51
It's good they spoke up about this and did not stay silent... The Mousesports game was superb, a real battle... Good luck to Ex-Winstrike players.
2021-04-08 17:12
He's overreacting.
2021-04-08 17:13
1 reply
Yes being frustrated after an org has discussions with you and agrees to terms with you and your team, giving you contracts which you signed after being done dirty by your previous org and getting your hopes up just to tell you they "dont have the money" is overreacting. Saying you could whine and cry but instead you'll continue to work hard is overreacting. You have more fingers then you do IQ points.
2021-04-08 17:24
most cis orgs are the worst
2021-04-08 17:21
Sad to see such a thing at this day and age of mature professional esports...
2021-04-08 17:25
#211
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Poland SebL
I don't think they will go further with this roster in the future, nor they will keep the place that they have now, but anyway, it is so sad to see them having so much troubles with all the orgs. and stuff, I wish them the best.
2021-04-08 17:37
#213
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United Kingdom egaP_CS
Don't deserve that. Things like this shouldn't happen anymore.
2021-04-08 17:45
expected from cis region xaxxaxaxaxaxa maybe try Telegram Gaming
2021-04-08 18:11
thats kinda sucks. maybe they can check other orgs outside CS who wants to enter CS. there might be some potential orgs there.
2021-04-08 18:38
expected from hard legion
2021-04-08 18:42
#241
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Turkey 69kagan
HR? Flipside?
2021-04-08 18:50
#245
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Slovakia Adwarin
unluko GL in future
2021-04-08 19:09
expected
2021-04-08 19:38
#249
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Indonesia Nuryuky
so sad
2021-04-08 20:18
#250
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Norway TheDEA
Sad boois, don't give up
2021-04-08 21:08
I guess it was Hellraisers?
2021-04-08 21:18
HR 100% since they disbanded recently
2021-04-08 21:33
LMAO CIS, Ak47 deals is the norm. Didn't expect more.
2021-04-08 23:30
Expected from Russian org
2021-04-08 23:50
how the fuck does this happen to one of the best (if not best) tear2 team
2021-04-09 01:03
wtf, what kind of organization don't have 60 bucks to pay to these guys?
2021-04-09 10:14
HellRaisers OMEGALUL
2021-04-09 11:01
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