AGO stripped of ESL Polish Championship title following stream-sniping violation

The Polish organisation says that it will take "all available legal steps" to appeal against the ruling.

AGO have been stripped of their ESL Polish Championship Spring 2021 title following an investigation into an alleged case of stream-sniping, ESL Poland announced on Tuesday. HONORIS, the losing finalists, have been awarded the trophy, the first prize of almost $6,600 and the spot in the ESL National Championships Global Playoff Spring, an international IEM circuit qualifier.

HONORIS are the new ESL Polish Championship Spring champions

ESL Poland had announced on May 18 that it was investigating a potential stream-sniping breach after a video emerged of AGO's players celebrating their victory in the final. In the video, recorded by an AGO staff member inside the room where three of the team's members were playing, a computer can be seen running the official match stream "within sight of at least two AGO representatives, one of whom was in direct contact with the team," according to the tournament organiser.

"AGO responded to all of our inquiries and provided all available resources, and presented a plausible scenario indicating that the representatives made this mistake without malicious intent," ESL Poland added.

"In view of this, we refrained from even harsher measures, such as a two-year disqualification from ESL tournaments."

ESL Poland said that both its parent, ESL, and the Esports Integrity Commission (ESIC) were involved in the investigation. The esports watchdog made headlines in January after it imposed a $10,000 fine on the Vitality organisation for a similar incident involving the French team during their BLAST Premier Global Final matches against Liquid and Complexity.

In a statement, AGO admitted to being "surprised" by the announcement and revealed that it will take "all available legal steps, not only to appeal the decision but also to protect the good name of our organization."

"The x-kom AGO representative had the stream of the final match in sight but was not in direct contact with the team," the organisation said. "This unintentional incident was not intended to and was not the reason for the winning team gaining any advantage and did not affect the final result, which is clearly confirmed by the audio-visual materials we provided to ESL Poland as part of our full cooperation.

"After we receive a written decision from ESL Poland (the official organizer of the tournament, whose rules are signed by the governing bodies of AGO Esports), containing at least a concrete indication of the allegedly violated point of the rules and plausible evidence, we will begin the appeal procedure to ESIC. Until then, our organization will not provide any additional comments.

"We consider the current position of ESL Poland as fundamentally inconsistent with the spirit of the sport and contrary to the DNA of x-kom AGO, which we have been building on the principle of fair play from the very beginning."

HONORIS will be joined by the winners of seven other national and regional tournaments in the ENC Global Playoff Spring 2021, scheduled for May 27-30. The winner of this single-elimination tournament will pick between a spot in the IEM Cologne Play-In stage or in IEM Summer, with the runner-up receiving the remaining slot.

WTF AGO???
2021-05-25 12:38
12 replies
#7
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India OOFmiester
Based Poland
2021-05-25 12:39
7 replies
> Based > Poland... for sure there are some things in which Poland is "based", but in general...
2021-05-25 13:15
5 replies
#140
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Poland paputekk
Based Poland
2021-05-25 13:46
4 replies
no
2021-05-25 13:48
3 replies
#148
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Poland paputekk
yes((
2021-05-25 13:53
2 replies
#318
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Europe xqcL
based on what
2021-05-26 08:45
1 reply
#319
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Poland paputekk
on being based
2021-05-26 08:47
Based India
2021-05-25 15:55
Omg...
2021-05-25 14:09
the stereotype with germans being in time maight be valid
2021-05-25 14:11
take care, the fat hunter can be near o grande caçador de gordo
2021-05-25 14:37
Jerman -1 bait response
2021-05-25 16:22
Good job ESL Poland
2021-05-25 12:38
#3
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India OOFmiester
BASED
2021-05-25 12:38
what?
2021-05-25 12:38
#8
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Sweden frayw
noobs
2021-05-25 12:39
POG congrats neo and taz, living legends! ago enjoy the L
2021-05-25 12:39
#10
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Korea HullU
dudeeeeee whyy cheaaat
2021-05-25 12:39
oof
2021-05-25 12:39
HONORIS POGCHAMP
2021-05-25 12:40
Vitality 2.0
2021-05-25 12:40
1 reply
#235
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Ukraine Patrizio
Exactly XD
2021-05-25 16:26
#15
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Faroe Islands klnv
Poland cs is back
2021-05-25 12:40
huge brain ago
2021-05-25 12:40
#18
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India Trollgamer
PauseChamp
2021-05-25 12:40
LOL
2021-05-25 12:40
Nice. Good news for Sangal
2021-05-25 12:40
6 replies
#45
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Poland malymaly
Very good news for Sangal
2021-05-25 12:47
why? you will play against them?
2021-05-25 13:26
1 reply
Possibly in semis of ESL national championship
2021-05-25 18:44
#237
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Ukraine Patrizio
Don't worry we'll give that last place in the tournament.
2021-05-25 16:27
2 replies
You Polaks are hilarious :)
2021-05-25 19:39
1 reply
#289
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Ukraine Patrizio
If u play S3nsey i am sure u will be last in tournament.
2021-05-25 19:41
XAXAXAXA polish cheaters
2021-05-25 12:40
21 replies
Yeah, cheating is in their blood. And when NiP wants a fair game they CRY like babies and goes bananas xD
2021-05-25 13:46
20 replies
#149
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Poland paputekk
expected from swedennn
2021-05-25 13:53
#176
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Poland koksuv2
fair game is when you have more chances to win? expected from sweden.
2021-05-25 14:29
15 replies
Fair is when you don’t have 40% packet loss
2021-05-25 17:23
14 replies
#305
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Poland koksuv2
He play better with 40% loss than normal. Clown repleve1ce.
2021-05-25 20:57
13 replies
When there was unfair lag anonymo won, when there wasn’t unfair lag anonymo lost Simple as that The fact that device didn’t have to perform for NIP to win is even more proof that anonymo only won because of lag
2021-05-25 21:36
12 replies
#312
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Poland koksuv2
You are so dumb if you think that they played with loss. NIP had 2 chances for win. Simple as that. The fact that repleve1ce played so bad is even more proof that he is unskilled crying kid.
2021-05-26 00:17
11 replies
Yeah bro it’s all a conspiracy to go against poland, the packet loss never existed in the first place
2021-05-26 01:05
6 replies
5 replies
40% spikes dumbass either way both teams are bots LUL
2021-05-26 06:26
4 replies
#320
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Poland koksuv2
40% spikes, maybe from your mind
2021-05-26 18:47
3 replies
pepela confirmed by multiple sources not just nip, but whatever u think bud
2021-05-29 00:51
2 replies
#328
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Poland koksuv2
multiple sources: -NIP's twitter -CEO NIP
2021-05-30 11:56
1 reply
Richard Lewis and multiple other reports too, but it's k bud you'll figure it out someday
2021-06-04 12:06
Stupid poland... its been proven and confirmed by flashpoint already. If you want to continue with your conspiracy, google "low iq and conspiracy theories".
2021-05-27 10:53
3 replies
#324
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Poland koksuv2
stupid sweden... the only evidence was a text file uploaded by ClownsInPyjamas. Even if repleve1ce had 1 spike, it confirms even more that he is a clown. if you want to continue being a clown, keep cheering for ClownsInPyjamas and repleve1ce.
2021-05-27 14:08
2 replies
low iq confirmed. gl
2021-05-27 14:12
1 reply
#326
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Poland koksuv2
yes. your iq.
2021-05-27 14:21
flag checks out
2021-05-25 17:03
0 iq brain checks out
2021-05-25 18:00
#322
NEO | 
Poland OmgYes
Nt swedeish and danish coach cheters bug
2021-05-26 20:23
#22
HS | 
Estonia E$t0
lmfao AGO
2021-05-25 12:40
wtf nice xaxaxaxaxa
2021-05-25 12:41
ooooof
2021-05-25 12:41
Well, I'm happy for Honoris, but I wish they didn't qualify like this
2021-05-25 12:41
honoris lucked out so much this tournament lol. one bracket was ago vs anonymo while honoris were fighting IZAKO XDDD then they got a free win from ago streamsniping, nice
2021-05-25 12:42
5 replies
#150
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Poland paputekk
izako aren't that bad
2021-05-25 13:54
4 replies
ago and anonymo are 100 times better
2021-05-25 19:58
3 replies
If they’re 100x better then why need to streamsnipe?
2021-05-25 20:27
2 replies
kinda tru but polish mens are stupid
2021-05-25 20:28
it was accident man :(
2021-05-25 20:52
polish known xiter
2021-05-25 12:42
axaxaxaxa
2021-05-25 12:42
lmao
2021-05-25 12:43
Why did Vitality not get disqualified for stream sniping? Why only smaller teams are being targeted?
2021-05-25 12:43
16 replies
#40
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Poland Kobel_
tbh it looks like ESIC/ESL are making a show trial
2021-05-25 12:45
Wtf
2021-05-25 12:48
#62
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United Kingdom C00K1E
That was a blast tournament I believe... clear that the ESL view is much harsher.
2021-05-25 12:53
3 replies
ESL and BLAST are both part of ESIC, the effective decisions on sanctions are 'guided' by ESIC
2021-05-25 13:29
2 replies
No. Different TO's have different approaches in this kinds situations.
2021-05-25 16:50
1 reply
Of course they have different approaches! But again, ESIC guides decisions, and TOs choose what to do. BLAST and ESL are both part of ESIC, so the judgement process will be incredibly similar for both cases. I probably know far more about this than you btw:)
2021-05-25 17:27
Because they wouldn't have the balls to do the same with the likes of vitality, lmao Instead of bending everyone over they give the big boys a slap on the wrist and to the small orgs they shove in deep
2021-05-25 12:53
Cuz big org, And there is no possibility to deny that. this a fact.
2021-05-25 12:54
4 replies
How is it a fact? It an opinion, nothing else. Stop spreading consipiracy theories among cs go
2021-05-25 13:08
3 replies
Blast and ESL said they will accept the rule ESIC made. This rule said you get DQ nothing else. Vitality did stream sniping and got not DQ Those are facts and no conspiracy theory.
2021-05-25 13:11
2 replies
The point of the fine to Vitality and also the fine Flashpoint gave to MIBR was to set an example. ESIC did say that future cases of sniping etc. will be dealt with more harshly. Being this extreme is the only way to stop people from doing it or they will just keep getting slaps on the wrist.
2021-05-25 13:29
I mean yeah, you're right, but at the same time we don't really know what is the full scope of those two situations, so it is really hard to come up with a conclusion that is 100% accurate
2021-05-25 17:49
because vitality's stream was open in another room, which players wouldnt even be able to see without turning their faces 180
2021-05-25 13:27
Vitality wasn't stream sniping, they had a living room behind the players with couch and a TV broadcasting the match for Vitality's employees and guests...
2021-05-25 14:16
+1 liquid robbed
2021-05-25 18:14
Because, IIRC, in Vitality's case they were the first to be punished after all the stream sniping in online cs came to light. And there was a statement thst Vitality got a low punishment in comparison, but every Team after would get punished much harder. I get that some viewers didn't followed the news and haven't heard of it but as a competing CS Team, it's just dumb to have a Stream open in the same room, after all that went down.
2021-05-25 20:10
big oof
2021-05-25 12:43
#36
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Germany JonnyEGood
no one cares dude Wow dis guy was pushing apps in round 7 of 30 I gain so much info from this! We are practically winning now that we know of this! Wow player X buys CZ instead of deagle in round 3, now we will peek the corner differently in round 46!
2021-05-25 12:43
#38
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Romania ViolentJ
Yikes
2021-05-25 12:44
#41
SPUNJ | 
Albania F4lKs
OMEGALUL
2021-05-25 12:45
rematch? no wait, NiP didn't play
2021-05-25 12:45
Deserved
2021-05-25 12:46
WTF
2021-05-25 12:46
#46
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Poland Mimaaacz
Imagine streamsniping vs fuckin Honoris and then getting caught because of your own video KEKW
2021-05-25 12:47
5 replies
#49
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Poland Totali_
They were not stream sniping, their coach didnt even contact players when the match was played.
2021-05-25 12:48
2 replies
The same guy who abused the coach bug? AHHAAHHAHA
2021-05-25 12:52
1 reply
#61
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Poland Totali_
He wasnt abusing it, same as loord who even told valve about this bug and also got banned.
2021-05-25 12:53
#51
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Portugal Surya
+1
2021-05-25 12:49
Haha
2021-05-25 13:50
#48
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Greece Noocklas
I LOVE ONLINE CS
2021-05-25 12:48
Wha is it so hard to not open a stream?? That is sth I will never get... and for this stupidity they deserve a punishment. But again Vitality paid 10k... a small org get banned.... Double standards in the scene make it really bullshit.
2021-05-25 12:49
16 replies
#65
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United Kingdom C00K1E
BLAST tournament chose not to punish vitality, this is an ESL tournament. Ofcourse the rules are different.
2021-05-25 12:54
6 replies
I know two different TOs but both said they force ESIC rules and that teams get DQ. ESL stays with the line meanwhile Blast protect big orgs. And that is also why I said "scene" not TO or sth else.
2021-05-25 12:56
5 replies
#123
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United Kingdom C00K1E
I kind of read Vitality's as a big warning to the entire scene, if you think about it ago have also been given a huge warning by just having a one-time punishment, losing one tournament (and all the benefits). Expect it to get much worse for any other teams trying their luck
2021-05-25 13:32
1 reply
nah, vitality deserved to be disqualified and liquid wouldve potentially won the event. they were robbed 10k is literally one week of food for zywoo, its nothing to vitality
2021-05-25 18:14
Blast didn’t ban them because so many teams stream sniped. They wouldn’t have had any teams if they banned all :D
2021-05-25 19:07
2 replies
thats not true.
2021-05-25 19:19
1 reply
What part of my tweet is not true?
2021-05-26 04:57
AGO didn't get banned, they got disqualified. The tournament acted as a qualifier for something else, it would be unfair for honoris if AGO kept their spot after this.
2021-05-25 13:01
7 replies
still my point stays cuz Vitality literally the same get just a fine...
2021-05-25 13:02
6 replies
vitality didn't play in the grand final while stream sniping. big diff.
2021-05-25 14:28
5 replies
they played a playoff match. zero difference by the ESIC RUles. ESIC said "Streamsniping= DQ" no matter where.
2021-05-25 14:29
4 replies
the rules weren't so severe then and its good. you do realize that this disqualification sets a precedent for future events?
2021-05-25 14:33
3 replies
and? what it the point when your rule is DQ you don't do it and then next event you do it? 0 logic. Except you want to protect the org and not the integrity of the game...
2021-05-25 14:40
2 replies
my point is when vitality & mibr were fined for sniping the punishment wasn't as severe as it is now. there were no precedents. to's/esic initially handled it with a light hand, but they quickly realized they had a huge problem on their hands, so they upped the punishment. hey, be glad? now you have a good precedent from ESL the next time a team gets caught stream sniping.
2021-05-25 14:49
1 reply
but by the ESIC ruleset it was already the one that we got here.
2021-05-25 14:57
#212
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Poland morosek
+9000
2021-05-25 15:17
oh boy online cs strikes again, can't wait for online major.
2021-05-25 12:50
1 reply
wtf no((
2021-05-25 12:55
Lul
2021-05-25 12:50
#54
JD | 
Poland xVKRx
KEKW
2021-05-25 12:50
why did they even use it? they are a good team
2021-05-25 12:51
10 replies
#69
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Poland Berbe123
idk, probably manager of ago was watching match on the laptop
2021-05-25 12:55
4 replies
thats sad but don't give the win to a shit team like honoris, they should give it to anonymo
2021-05-25 13:00
3 replies
Nothing checks out lulw
2021-05-25 15:24
2 replies
stuck in the past???
2021-05-25 15:26
1 reply
Yes, i'm an archeologist
2021-05-25 15:38
#71
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Poland f3nce
in explanation there was written that ESIC and ESL find it wasn't their intention to cheat, that's why their punishment isn't getting banned from ESL events, only losing that title.
2021-05-25 12:56
1 reply
still sad
2021-05-25 12:57
I don't think they intentionally used it, but the management clearly didn't think and they had the stream on, which the coach could see and potentially use...
2021-05-25 13:02
2 replies
kinda sad and that the team that got the win now is shit team :( Just give it to anonymo
2021-05-25 13:03
1 reply
#246
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Ukraine Patrizio
Honoris is not a shit team.If u don't know anything about Honoris that's doesn't mean they are shit XD.Honoris was second so they deserve this place(Anonymo was 3/4 so it doesn't make any sense coz Izako was also 3/4).Somehow they went to final beating better teams on paper.Ur talking about tournament not contest for the most likeable team.
2021-05-25 16:32
Ez4TaZ
2021-05-25 12:51
I think ESL using them as example ,that you cant get away abusing stream snipping.
2021-05-25 12:52
2 replies
#64
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Albania StylDunow
+1 and in my opinion is good
2021-05-25 12:53
KEKW, Vitality got away with 10k$ punishment
2021-05-25 13:33
unfortunate
2021-05-25 12:52
This will surely lead to tons of polish kids harrassing the AGO org and their players on social media and Steam for weeks. Oh wait, they only do that to NiP, not a polish team that actually fucked up themselves
2021-05-25 13:00
2 replies
#78
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Poland Totali_
Yeah thats so funny when anonymo was trashtalking NiP it was all alright and so funny but when ago did it to anonymo their fans started to cry a lot and now they call it karma because ago was disqualified.
2021-05-25 13:02
#99
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Poland Berbe123
they are doing it to ago for like 1 year, idk why tho
2021-05-25 13:12
#74
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Turkey emirhaan
FCK ONLINE ERA
2021-05-25 13:00
LMAO
2021-05-25 13:03
AB0
2021-05-25 13:04
Cheaters, matchfixers, no rules about some games (restarts and so on), welcome to csgo. Please don't bet your money on this ...
2021-05-25 13:05
Vitality?
2021-05-25 13:06
Cheat for $6000 xaxaxa
2021-05-25 13:07
6 replies
no cheating ... read the article "xaxaxa"
2021-05-25 13:09
5 replies
Oh shit my bad
2021-05-25 13:09
cheating means an act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage
2021-05-25 13:19
3 replies
They were punished for breaking the rules and not for cheating.
2021-05-25 13:29
2 replies
stfu tc polak
2021-05-25 17:04
1 reply
funny brazilian :D
2021-05-25 19:23
#91
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World elefiveS
ez 4 Taz and Neo
2021-05-25 13:08
#95
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Fingers crossed some clarity and clarification is bought to the situation involving AGO.
2021-05-25 13:10
5 replies
#100
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Poland Berbe123
Jonty always on point :D
2021-05-25 13:13
4 replies
Ah, thank you. ^^ What is your take on the situation, friend? :)
2021-05-25 14:04
3 replies
#160
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Poland Berbe123
imo it wasn't intentional and ago shouldn't be "robbed" from trophy. If they want to punish them, just give them financial penalty or smth like that. Moreover, esl didn't communicate with AGO before they released the statement and that's weird
2021-05-25 14:07
2 replies
Fair points. :) I agree with you, exactly like Vitality, I don't think any cheating was intended and exactly like Vitality, I think a fine would've sufficed. I guess ESL thought the victory was due to stream-sniping and therefore docked the trophy off of them but I think even if AGO prove the victory had nothing to do with that, HONORIS will keep the trophy regardless in an effort to enforce a no-nonsense policy. I hope the situation definitely gets sorted, I know others are blaming the fact it's "online", it's hard to say whether or not this would occur on LAN or not.
2021-05-25 14:16
1 reply
#180
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Poland Berbe123
That situation is really unfortunate Have a good day:D
2021-05-25 14:32
But played is played!!1
2021-05-25 13:10
1 reply
#220
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Poland Zetie
Don't get me wrong. Most Anonymo fans are happy AGO is getting disqualified.
2021-05-25 15:27
Every team stream snipes.
2021-05-25 13:11
#102
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Korea jin67300
Respect Taz & NEO congratulations
2021-05-25 13:14
Why there is no ESL Ukrainian or ESL Russian? But at the same time we have ESL Turkey and ESL Benelux? Just want to understand the system behind those tournaments
2021-05-25 13:19
5 replies
I dont think there is any sense behind it at all
2021-05-25 13:26
4 replies
What is the sense behind ESL Poland or ESL Turkey? I mean, I can understand why is that, but at the same time that's ridiculous. If you say there are small branches of ESL in those countries, what about Benelux?
2021-05-25 14:49
3 replies
yes
2021-05-25 14:52
#251
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Switzerland Laytenek
No one care about ESL Russian or ESL Ukrainian. Turkey, Benelux and Poland generates more money than 2 of your countries together
2021-05-25 16:48
1 reply
Reasonable. At the same time if not work in that field, there will be no profit
2021-05-25 19:10
Online tournements should stop
2021-05-25 13:19
#110
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Serbia bra1np
I'm thinking if the orgs heard about stream delay? :O hm hm hm
2021-05-25 13:23
Pretty funny it’s their own post game video that exposes them. 40 IQ plays
2021-05-25 13:23
unexpected from poland
2021-05-25 13:24
1 reply
expected from ago
2021-05-25 15:53
This claims that all scene is in online era such a joke - streamsnipers, excuses of lagging/getting loss, coach bugs and others. I all depends how team will be ready to match from aim_botz or DM. It needs to be stopped. Please LAN come back!
2021-05-25 13:26
Poland cs LUL Even if they win, everyone makes sure they lose in the end. First NIP and now this.
2021-05-25 13:27
Great to see idiots getting punished for this.Even if they didnt use it they deserve it for being so stupid to leave it on after the Vitality incident
2021-05-25 13:29
Wow!! I knew i should not trust polacks!!
2021-05-25 13:32
2 replies
Only few idiots Vitality also streamsniped or smth
2021-05-25 13:38
1 reply
Ye i was kidding :P
2021-05-25 14:16
lol, should have been punished more since this was a thing you could pay attention to because of the vitality incident. no excuses here
2021-05-25 13:33
It was their brother stream-sniping not them! Valve unban!
2021-05-25 13:34
CHEATERS!
2021-05-25 13:37
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHA
2021-05-25 13:38
#131
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Russia Syonamaru
Sad
2021-05-25 13:38
#132
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Australia z3ro_
Typo in the subheading? The Polish organisation says that it take "all available legal steps" to appeal against the ruling.
2021-05-25 13:38
KEKW
2021-05-25 13:41
#137
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Russia Topper!
Wtf ago
2021-05-25 13:43
#138
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Poland dymbus
Imagine cheating for $6k xDD
2021-05-25 13:43
#146
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Poland Szcz
first minirox banned and now this WTF AGO?
2021-05-25 13:52
4 replies
#190
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Sweden deadvein
Is minirox a pokemon?
2021-05-25 14:41
1 reply
#217
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Poland Szcz
He is as cute as Charmeleon
2021-05-25 15:25
can someone explain how can you streamsnipe ? coaches can't watch twitch while playing ? ( its with delay like 5min )
2021-05-25 14:47
1 reply
if there is a pause for whatever reason you could catch up to the live state of the match and the delay is more like 2-3 minutes anyway
2021-05-25 14:53
Lead paragraph English much?
2021-05-25 13:52
1 reply
Fixed
2021-05-25 17:15
ez 4 TAZ
2021-05-25 13:58
#152
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Poland Lother96
Imagine being so stupid to turn on stream during final match... So dumb from whoever that was
2021-05-25 14:02
agOMEGALUL
2021-05-25 14:04
#155
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Sweden Maddoxswe
40% screen sniping polish guy.. Karma is the one word i can think of.. karma
2021-05-25 14:05
2 replies
40% loss easier to play than 0 lol
2021-05-25 16:30
1 reply
#275
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Sweden Maddoxswe
You are correct my friend!
2021-05-25 18:25
So glad for N&T
2021-05-25 14:05
#159
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Germany NitczkaCS
Why is Ago not equally punished to Vitality? Why was Vitality not disqualified?? This is soo f.. unfair they can never touch big organisations and smaller ones suffer
2021-05-25 14:07
1 reply
#162
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Poland Hanse
They suffer for a reason tho
2021-05-25 14:08
#161
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Poland Hanse
Pog
2021-05-25 14:08
#164
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Russia NOD777
ME POLAND ME STREAMSNIPE ME DDOS ME BULLYING VICTIM ME CRY
2021-05-25 14:10
1 reply
What ddos wtf
2021-05-25 16:30
Isn't there a two minute delay on the stream??? How on earth can you play online if there's not... HMMM
2021-05-25 14:13
1 reply
2 minutes isn't a lot of time. a technical pause can easily last 2 minutes and it'll give you all the info you need. besides.. even if its 3-5 minutes you can still extrapolate a lot of information from that. the money situation, etc.
2021-05-25 14:30
Polish cs is rat cs kekw Stream sniping on tier10 teams
2021-05-25 14:15
HAHAAHAH OMEGALUL
2021-05-25 14:16
A G OMEGALUL
2021-05-25 14:24
#178
OK | 
United States maidz4
more drama... great.
2021-05-25 14:31
#182
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Poland Yomenik
XD
2021-05-25 14:36
#184
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China RADNIKEY
Rip
2021-05-25 14:37
#186
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Poland Yomenik
honoris on iem pls no
2021-05-25 14:38
#191
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Finland 5way
polish cs KEKW
2021-05-25 14:45
XDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2021-05-25 14:46
#193
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Brazil k1mkeid
wtf?
2021-05-25 14:47
#195
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Russia KICK_ZEUS
POLISH SCENE LUL
2021-05-25 14:48
#198
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North America Flightive
AYO HAHAHAHAHA
2021-05-25 14:49
#200
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Poland IDIEYOUNG
HNRS <3 HNRS <3
2021-05-25 14:50
2 replies
Still 1 game and goodbye
2021-05-25 16:28
1 reply
#248
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Ukraine Patrizio
Just like Anonymo in knockout stage in ESL MP XD but honestly don't act like a kid.
2021-05-25 16:36
why is there not a delay on stream in 2021, like how is sniping even made possible - MORONS
2021-05-25 14:51
2 replies
#206
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Poland oxxz666
there was a 5min delay, sniping means sniping oponnents economy
2021-05-25 15:01
It probably was delayed, but you can count how much the money the other team have knowing how much they had 2 rounds earlier.
2021-05-25 15:04
2021-05-25 15:01
"In the video, recorded by an AGO staff member inside the room where three of the team's members were playing, a computer can be seen running the official match stream "within sight of at least two AGO representatives" Real 3Head moment.
2021-05-25 15:07
#210
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Poland JaCoBHo
Honoris top 1 pl
2021-05-25 15:16
#211
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Finland AliSabid
Nice..
2021-05-25 15:17
"AGO admitted to being "surprised" by the announcement" I mean yeah, they must've thought "no way lmaooo Janusz please stay away from the camera angles next time"
2021-05-25 15:17
1 reply
basically "Sorry we got caught" xD
2021-05-25 20:39
#214
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United States 3manu3l
EZ4NEO
2021-05-25 15:20
TaZ TOP
2021-05-25 15:22
#218
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Poland morosek
Really sad for AGO and polish cs scene yet im pretty sure its the most balanced way of punishment. Financial penalty will never be a good way to punish teams cuz money means nothing to big orgs so nobody would care. Dq is probably the worst idea so im happy they didn't had to go that way. Its a big lesson for other orgs, remember to follow tournament rules, dont do stupid mistakes. Idc if they had any advantage because of that or not, the rule is simple and its really simple not to turn a stream on.
2021-05-25 15:26
2 replies
"WTF" ~ Vitality
2021-05-25 15:38
1 reply
#231
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Poland morosek
Ye, Blast really fkd up in that case
2021-05-25 16:14
#223
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Ukraine futplxyer
Polish scene ahahaha
2021-05-25 15:39
3 replies
Like you have a scene
2021-05-25 16:25
2 replies
#240
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Ukraine futplxyer
who needs a scene when u have s1mple carrying CS
2021-05-25 16:29
1 reply
that's why navi has 0 majors
2021-05-25 18:33
Vitality?
2021-05-25 15:55
Expected from polaks
2021-05-25 16:08
2 replies
Yep, tried to cheat NIP, tried to cheat ESL... polaks new ruskies?
2021-05-25 16:28
1 reply
#250
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Ukraine Patrizio
Nobody tryied to cheat NIP,in fact NIP cheated on Ano.Expected from svensk.Sweden new India?
2021-05-25 16:40
how can you be this stupid. even someone not into esport would guess that this isn't right and they are esport org so they should know that they did "big vitality "
2021-05-25 16:30
1 reply
#253
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Poland morosek
But ago big org, they can pay mens((((
2021-05-25 16:56
So grandpa Taz and Neo still top of the Poland ? hahahaha
2021-05-25 17:01
#257
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Croatia Esketite
HoNoRiS iS a DiSgRaCe HoW cAn yOu WiN a TrOpHy WhEn aGo wOn FaIr AnD sQuArE
2021-05-25 17:05
lul, they're are so bad even with stream sniping ? cant believe kekw
2021-05-25 17:05
2 replies
Lmao, you think knowing the potential economy of enemy means you will win every duel and stack right site every single time? XD
2021-05-25 17:11
1 reply
it's not about economy xddd it's about analysing playstyle, positions, strats
2021-05-25 18:32
Name a more iconic duo than Polish CS and drama, I'll wait...
2021-05-25 17:06
2 replies
Polish cs and tier3
2021-05-25 17:17
1 reply
fair play sir, fair play
2021-05-25 17:45
New generation Polish CS Players trully sucks.
2021-05-25 17:18
3 replies
trully?
2021-05-25 18:30
2 replies
Jarno Trulli, 2004 Monaco Grand Prix winner.
2021-05-25 18:48
Go to school, you will learn
2021-05-25 23:53
Have to cheat to win LMAO
2021-05-25 17:26
vitality: 10k fine ago: lose title KEKW if this isnt proof that big orgs have too much power idk what does
2021-05-25 18:12
4 replies
^ This
2021-05-25 18:43
1 reply
2021-05-25 19:42
"a computer can be seen running the official match stream "within sight of at least two AGO representatives, one of whom was in direct contact with the team," according to the tournament organiser." Maybe actually read? This was not the case when Vitality had their sniping incident. Vitality had a big television behind them all on the other side of a window, AGO had a person watching the stream that had direct contact with the team. See the difference?
2021-05-25 19:42
1 reply
+1
2021-05-25 20:37
#274
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Sweden Svahn
Crying over NIP rematch and now this :D haha sucks to be Polish
2021-05-25 18:20
lawl
2021-05-25 19:22
#287
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Chile cristiaan
lool
2021-05-25 19:30
#292
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Europe BARAO555
well shit happens
2021-05-25 19:47
Silly business really. I'm not sure if AGO release this, but at the end of last year the tolerance regarding stream sniping was clearly and publicly established at zero. This was then reiterated and further clarified with the Vitality incident. As such, this is a fair and just penalty. To take "...all available legal steps, not only to appeal the decision but also to protect the good name of our organization." would, imo, be a contradiction. I think that the best way forward for AGO to protect their good name would be to accept the decision and explain why they violated the rules in the first place as it's clear that they did.
2021-05-25 19:55
#296
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Poland xMBTx
how about rematch
2021-05-25 20:12
Clip? Or it didn’t happen.
2021-05-25 20:20
Dont give a slot to honoris, its so wasted spot i dont wanna see Polish team loosing to Swiss or Benelux so cringe
2021-05-25 20:26
dissapointing
2021-05-25 20:59
#308
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Poland SebL
Quite a lot happening in Polish scene in recent days, but cmon AGO, how could you make a mistake like that...
2021-05-25 21:48
ROFL
2021-05-25 22:38
so AGO is disqualified, while Vitality just gets a small fine where is the logic in this?
2021-05-25 22:56
1 reply
Vitality was one of the first to be punished for it, which sets a tone to players doing it in the future, if people then continue to do it, the punishment will be harder
2021-05-30 12:00
#315
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Europe Ufasas
what the fuck are they talking about? can't even write in normal human language, stream-sniping, huj sniping, what is this stream snipier?
2021-05-26 04:50
#321
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Sweden flippig
Yet again the cs-scene shows what a joke it is
2021-05-26 18:53
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