CIS teams call on Valve to launch Akuma investigation

The participating teams in EPIC League CIS have also asked the game developer to enforce strict protocols in future tournaments.

In an open letter to Valve, 14 out of the 16 teams that took part in EPIC League CIS plus Unique have asked Valve to launch a full investigation into the cheating allegations against Akuma. These teams "suspect" that Akuma, who placed third in the Regional Major Ranking (RMR) tournament after most notably beating Natus Vincere and Virtus.pro in convincing fashion in the playoffs, "received live data from third parties on external devices" during their matches to see opponents' positions on the map and gain a competitive advantage.

The letter outlines several key concerns regarding how the region's first RMR tournament of 2021, organized by the Russian Esports Federation (RESF) and Epic Esports Events, was run, and suggests solutions to prevent similar problems from happening in future events in the Major circuit.

According to the statement, the tournament organizers did not record the teams' communications, which is a measure that the organizations believe to be "the norm for every big tournament" and one that other TOs have used to help investigate potential cases of wrongdoing in the past. Additionally, the competition was played without a third-party anti-cheat and, in some matches, the GOTV was allegedly left with no delay or a delay of up to 30 seconds.

The teams who signed the letter asked organizers of future RMR and other online events to establish a number of preventive measures, including a fixed delay of live server data going out to third parties and the GOTV, as well as mandatory TeamSpeak recordings, additional cameras capturing players' entire station, and an additional anti-cheat on top of VAC (Valve Anti-Cheat).

Akuma's upset run at the EPIC League CIS has been a hot topic in the community for the past week. Several clips of the Ukrainian team's actions in matches have surfaced, in particular questioning the players' eye movements and suggesting that they were receiving additional information on another device.

RESF posted a statement on Sunday in response to the cheating allegations, revealing that they had run their own investigation into the matter. The organizers said the analysis of the information they had gathered "did not reveal any evidence of compromising the administration of the tournament and the work of GOTV" and that their "review of Akuma's players' hardware and software revealed no signs of foul play." The federation also stated that they have notified Valve and ESIC of the situation and that they are ready to "conduct a retrial with their participation if necessary."

The full letter, signed by all EPIC League CIS participants with the exception of Akuma and ex-Marlian, can be found below:

Open letter to VALVE’s CS:GO division

Dear CS:GO team,

We want to share our feedback on the CIS RMR held by the RESF. Our mutual concern is a suspicion of dishonest play from the AKUMA team / players. Based on the information we have, we suspect that the AKUMA team/players received live data from third parties on external devices in order to gain the unfair advantage of seeing opponents’ positions on the map at all times.

In its statement, RESF claimed that no evidence was found that Akuma violated the integrity of the tournament. However, we doubt that the investigation followed all of the appropriate protocols because of the following limitations:

- TeamSpeak communications were never recorded. Teams repeatedly questioned this decision and asked that all communications be recorded, but their requests were dismissed. The RESF explained this with the fact that recording TeamSpeak communications was not in Valve’s requirements. However, we believe that recording TeamSpeak communications has long been the norm for every big tournament, not to mention the qualifiers for a Major;
- There was no third-party anti-cheat, which has long been an industry standard and an additional tool for any leading TO;
- In some of the matches there was no GOTV delay, while in others there was a delay of up to 30 seconds.

Considering this, we ask that you involve ESIC or any other competent authority not only to conduct a full investigation into AKUMA, but also to lay out protocols to ensure that this scenario will not occur again in the future. If the legitimacy of AKUMA’s actions is confirmed, this will also help their players by minimizing any pressure that they might face from the community in future tournaments.

Given the specifics of the described situation, we are eager to provide all the information our teams have in order to find the truth behind what happened.

For the upcoming tournaments, regardless of the outcome of the investigation, we believe that following requirements should be considered:

- Data providers can only sell data with a 20-30 second delay;
- TeamSpeak communications must be recorded by all teams for every game;
- GOTV must have a 120-second delay;
- In addition to a camera in front of the player, there should be an extra camera capturing the whole setup of the player;
- Additional anti-cheat on top of VAC;
- Other (TBD)

We recognize that data providers are an essential part of the CS:GO ecosystem, and this should continue to be the case. However, we need to make sure that this data is safe from those willing to abuse the system and gain unfair competitive advantage.

We look forward to your feedback.

Yours faithfully,

100PG
1WIN
bankaPepsi
Entropiq
forZe
Gambit
Grond
IN.GAME
K23
NAVI
Nemiga
Team Spirit
Team Unique
Trident
Virtus.pro

Several team members and community figures have come out to express their opinions about the clips in question and the allegations as a whole. Natus Vincere coach Andrey "⁠B1ad3⁠" Gorodenskiy, whose team lost to Akuma in the opening round of the upper bracket, appeared on HLTV Confirmed on Tuesday and shared his conviction that Dmitriy "⁠SENSEi⁠" Shvorak's team cheated in the tournament.

"Personally, I think that they were cheating 100%," the 34-year-old said on the talk show. "Especially Sergiz [...], the way he pushes positions… We knew that he would push some positions, and in the end he pushed them, but every time it was when we weren't watching him. And the same was against VP. Then all the clips with the radar and so on started, and of course you can't watch the radar when you're in clutch situations. It's impossible, right? You must be focused on your crosshair."

The coach went on to say that it's unlikely anything will be proven because of the lack of TeamSpeak recordings. "I think it's not possible that it will be proven because there is no evidence. The TO didn't record any TeamSpeaks — we asked about this after the first match, actually, and they still didn't do this. So there is no evidence."

Related video:

Ukraine Dmitriy 'SENSEi' Shvorak
Dmitriy 'SENSEi' Shvorak
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lol
2021-06-03 13:07
6 replies
They should have hosted the matches on Valve's secure servers. It's not possible to cheat on those
2021-06-03 13:09
5 replies
+10000 sincerly, delusional fanbois
2021-06-03 13:18
yes exctly why third-party anti-cheat when we have VAC especially it's valve's tournament.. **VAC : Valve Allow Cheat**
2021-06-03 14:21
volvo secure servoz run very bad when around radiation i watch chernobyl and i saw radiation everywhere. very bad for vac
2021-06-03 16:20
2 replies
vac hates radiation yes
2021-06-03 17:16
1 reply
#413
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Netherlands JUNG13
Chernobyl is in Ukraine, right? So is Akuma... Obviously not a coincidence
2021-06-04 19:24
axaxaxaxaxa
2021-06-03 13:07
finally
2021-06-03 13:07
nice video
2021-06-03 13:07
sergiz cheating 100%
2021-06-03 13:08
1 reply
sergiz top1 igl wdym
2021-06-03 22:57
#8
nafany | 
Russia Danzo
pog
2021-06-03 13:07
#9
nexa | 
United Kingdom Zapz6x
Good
2021-06-03 13:07
deserved
2021-06-03 13:08
akuma no cheating
2021-06-03 13:08
4 replies
all the teams are complaining not just one or two player
2021-06-03 13:09
#147
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Korea ramza72
Even xantares on Twitter said sergez always looking radar like not normal
2021-06-03 13:46
think rationally plz
2021-06-03 14:38
They mad cuz their crybaby s0mple cant win against talented boys haha
2021-06-03 18:19
#14
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Argentina WaSTe_D
bruh all teams participated in this statement
2021-06-03 13:08
4 replies
Ex-Marlian didn't
2021-06-03 14:17
3 replies
Who
2021-06-03 15:41
2 replies
DemQQ and j3kie from Akuma were playing in Cult team, which was accused in cheating on Shadow League tournament, organized by Alexey Shishko, who owned Cult team, and who supposedly also related to Ex-Marlian team that also surprisingly won some matches in this RMR, probably with help of same live data from third parties on external devices.
2021-06-03 18:07
1 reply
There was some fuss about them doing very good in rmr.
2021-06-04 12:14
finally, cheaters going down. Akuma deserve to get banned forever
2021-06-03 13:08
Does the "related video" shows to u guys?
2021-06-03 13:08
10 replies
yea
2021-06-03 13:09
5 replies
Can u give me a link please? It doesn't show up to me
2021-06-03 13:09
4 replies
3 replies
Thank you! Have a nice day.
2021-06-03 13:10
1 reply
<3
2021-06-03 13:19
#236
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Europe robo1234
Dude, it's 3 hours long!
2021-06-03 16:23
The video is embedded in an iframe which is neither displayed nor loaded unless you have accepted marketing cookies. (My humble analysis.)
2021-06-03 17:42
3 replies
Thank you, now I can see the videos from the posts.
2021-06-03 18:09
1 reply
now uve been watched
2021-06-03 23:01
Html god
2021-06-04 08:11
rip akuma
2021-06-03 13:08
get them out of the scene
2021-06-03 13:09
2 replies
#178
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Czech Republic werfy
That's not how things work
2021-06-03 14:21
i suggest they should go play SA rmr that would make sense
2021-06-03 23:02
Ofc this piece of trash company will do nothing - as usual. Nice Mirage rework and thanks for ancient
2021-06-03 13:09
Salt
2021-06-03 13:09
buahaha cis noobs with overdrive at the forefront, they make an idiot of themselves
2021-06-03 13:09
7 replies
#208
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Latvia PeaceDATA
yes ofc, all pros see and knows better, but u random hltv user know much better 4sure :DDDDDDD go clean toilets
2021-06-03 15:22
6 replies
ye all pros have no evidence and making the witch hunt for poor innocent team, gtf from here kid. You clearly don't even know how it works and that most of the teams that accuse akuma have sold matches and used cheats themselves in the past. You don't even know how dirty the whole cs scene is in past 15 years.
2021-06-03 15:46
5 replies
#231
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Latvia PeaceDATA
Im playing and watching cs from cs 1.4 kido. You need to be rly stupid if you think they didnt cheat. AND players form this team are banned on betting sites coz they where doing matchfixing before in Majesty and Cult tags. SO get out off there kido
2021-06-03 16:15
2 replies
#285
arT | 
Brazil Ferba
so, you think that chaos cheated too?
2021-06-03 18:51
I have been playing since 1999 and I can easily say, Akuma DID NOT cheat. Navi always crack under pressure, especially against teams they didn't practice/study for.
2021-06-04 13:28
‘Akuma didn’t cheat these pros have no proof they’re killing this poor team’ Immediately proceed to accuse multiple CIS teams of cheating and throwing games So which one is it? Is CIS full of cheaters or is everyone innocent and you’ve turned your brain off
2021-06-03 17:01
1 reply
Error 404: Logic Not Found
2021-06-04 11:22
interesting
2021-06-03 13:09
Valve: "don't care lol"
2021-06-03 13:09
4 replies
+1
2021-06-03 13:14
2021-06-03 13:27
1 reply
Controversy in pro cs scene: I sleep, no car Someone other than us is making money with our skins: REAL SH#T
2021-06-03 13:30
RIP AKUMA(((((
2021-06-03 13:09
Akuma is innocent
2021-06-03 13:10
ofc ex-Marlian dont sign the petition lmao
2021-06-03 13:10
2 replies
Why ofc ?
2021-06-03 17:41
bcs overdrive has evidence on them too
2021-06-04 16:01
OOOF
2021-06-03 13:10
XAXAXAXA BYE BYE AKUMA
2021-06-03 13:10
Good
2021-06-03 13:10
we will see
2021-06-03 13:10
>If the legitimacy of AKUMA’s actions is confirmed, this will also help their players by minimizing any pressure that they might face from the community in future tournaments. nicely worded letter
2021-06-03 13:11
1 reply
+1, surely they had lawyer participate in writing this letter
2021-06-04 06:31
lets just forget everything for a second, but tell me In a 1vs2 clutch situation , why the hell will u keep looking at the HUD on the top left corner of ur screen?
2021-06-03 13:11
15 replies
Tbh it can be just a habit, cuz I saw tier 1 players on LANs doing the same
2021-06-03 13:14
7 replies
maybe it was because his teammate died at that moment and the enemy player's red marker was being shown for a few moments in the hud as ur dead teammates's pov
2021-06-03 13:17
6 replies
If you're talking about S1mple clip, yes, his first look was because his teammate died but in 10 seconds he looked 2 more times. What for? I'm not saying S1mple is cheating, I'm saying it can be just a habit and those suspicious clips from Akuma can be a habit as well.
2021-06-03 13:25
5 replies
yup that is actually possible. u got a point
2021-06-03 13:28
1 reply
youtu.be/t_UaP_y35w0 Tell me why in the first clip, sergiz looks up in radar and then runs towards long doors to throw a molly? Why did he not have gun in his hand, just in case if cts were out. It is so obvious that sergiz was cheating. I dont know about other players.
2021-06-03 20:42
s1mple explained about that in his tweets, you can have a look at it.
2021-06-03 15:03
#292
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
He was looking whenever a nade was thrown so he could get a better understanding of where it popped in relation to his position and try and understand where it was thrown from. It's the way he likes to visualise the game. Constantly looking at the radar (or away from your screen for that matter) when absolutely nothing is happening on the map (no footsteps, no nades, no shots fired), that seems suspicious... also s1mple has several clips posted of him playing from his friend sat behind him and you can see nothing on his radar is showing except what you'd expect to see. There's more than enough evidence in s1mples case to prove that was just how he thinks about the game.
2021-06-03 19:29
crazy habit to look on the radar longer than your crosshair. But besides, other pro players and especially a guy like b1ad3 who played/coached a lot of cis players knows what a normal habit is for a player. Let us assume one of them has this habit, but why the fuck the whole team has it and why all the time... and why in such situations, where you have to check a corner and then don't even check this corner. 5vs5 on dust 2. He isn't looking even once to fucking CT not once. You don't do that
2021-06-03 20:37
youtu.be/xswYDKTyWnA Not LAN but still
2021-06-03 13:15
6 replies
:O
2021-06-03 13:18
half second glance compared to this clips.twitch.tv/GlutenFreeNimblePelicanT..
2021-06-03 13:25
3 replies
2 replies
lol, that second clip. braindead play unless you somehow know long is clear
2021-06-03 14:25
1 reply
#187
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Russia Kurok4
And they play every game like this.Dont give nadens when no enemys , never died from behind ,dont check corners ,prefiring enemies like this twitch.tv/starix/clip/IcySmellySandstorm..
2021-06-03 14:32
#109
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Russia Oisay
S1mple has explained every moment of this clutch, every step and move that he made. Akuma don’t even remember their manager name. Do not compare pls
2021-06-03 13:25
#45
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Poland yonasx
just live with that akuma is the best cis team rn
2021-06-03 13:11
Answer frow Valve Hello, dear CIS teams We dont car sincerely, Your Volvo
2021-06-03 13:11
3 replies
+1
2021-06-03 13:32
who car then?
2021-06-03 23:08
1 reply
i car
2021-06-04 13:06
Ex-marlian don't sign xaxaxa
2021-06-03 13:11
2 replies
What a coincidence xd
2021-06-03 13:14
gotta stand up for your countrymen i guess lol
2021-06-03 21:12
Lmao 1Win in the list
2021-06-03 13:11
EZ FOR AKUMA
2021-06-03 13:11
#51
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Valve is soon probably going down the road of DOTA and about to arrange these Majors and Major qualifiers by themselves. With that these issues wont be a think BUT knowing Valve and how strict they are when they do decide to handle things themselves , there are gonna be other issues that teams would cry about.
2021-06-03 13:12
2 replies
they could use some ESL/DH/Blast event very easy. I guess especially DH has no problem using one of their DH Opens as an RMR event. What Valve missed was a rulebook, ts recording, AC tools, GOTV Delay, Cam of the whole setup of the player to make cheating hard as possible. If they did that we wouldn't need this whole crap.
2021-06-03 20:32
1 reply
#301
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Pakistan LoOuU2
What i said is against to what you mentioned in the first para, Valve if resorting to host events by themselves wont have any TO involed, it will be Valve doing all shit by themselves. Using any other TO`s event is still the same past tradition thing. The only sole reason why Valve appoints other TOs to organize their shit is so that they can be lazy and dont have to do or oversee anything and let the TO handle everything. Thats why they said that Flashpoint can do what they want to regarding the whole rematch scenario, thats why they pressurized Entropiq and NaVi to play the 5th decider match cause the TO wanted them to. Yes it is Valve`s fault that Epic Leauge was so shitty managed but they appoint other TOs only to do their jobs competently.
2021-06-03 20:41
this is so good for the scene, hope valve does something
2021-06-03 13:12
5 replies
you mean its bad for the scene,if it turns out they are cheating CS will 100% die there will be no more sponsors events etc etc
2021-06-03 13:14
4 replies
It's good for the scene that 15 teams come together to complain to Valve, especially if you have read what their concerns are.
2021-06-03 13:16
#90
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
There is no guarantee the game will die but it will always evolve, for better or for worse...
2021-06-03 13:19
#125
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Russia Soawii
how? if they were cheating and there will be no investigation is much worse
2021-06-03 13:31
1 reply
The thing is there is no evidence although they were 100% cheating youtu.be/t_UaP_y35w0
2021-06-03 20:46
Lets see what comes of this...
2021-06-03 13:13
imagine nothing comes out
2021-06-03 13:13
3 replies
I think the main point is not about covicting Akuma, but this: For the upcoming tournaments, regardless of the outcome of the investigation, we believe that following requirements should be considered: - Data providers can only sell data with a 20-30 second delay; - TeamSpeak communications must be recorded by all teams for every game; - GOTV must have a 120-second delay; - In addition to a camera in front of the player, there should be an extra camera capturing the whole setup of the player; - Additional anti-cheat on top of VAC; - Other (TBD).
2021-06-03 13:18
2 replies
#95
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
All of the following should be standard for a TO, it's completely unacceptable.
2021-06-03 13:21
extra camera is ty much no one would do that
2021-06-03 23:12
Finally. that rmr was a disaster.
2021-06-03 13:13
3 replies
Another controversial rmr event with doodoo flung around everywhere? Me thinks I saw this one somewhere before. XDDDDD
2021-06-03 13:26
2 replies
the russian mafia really wants akuma to win a major
2021-06-03 13:39
1 reply
Really? I think reverse
2021-06-04 06:05
Just let em play on lan. Only time will tell whether they used cheats or smthg
2021-06-03 13:14
finally, akuma is so bad, they will get bad
2021-06-03 13:14
#70
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Serbia LtN))
finally i hope those bots will get banned
2021-06-03 13:15
10 replies
#79
B1T | 
Ukraine devitt
I dreamed Ukrainian cs will be back :(( Remember glorious 2010 times when NAVI were full ukrainian and dominated the world ? :(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
2021-06-03 13:16
9 replies
#83
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Serbia LtN))
yeah, i thought Akuma will be a good team in the future but Lost all respect to them those days
2021-06-03 13:18
6 replies
#86
B1T | 
Ukraine devitt
yes((( I even deleted them from my profile
2021-06-03 13:18
5 replies
You are just pathetic traitor. No one has shown evidence so far. I will root for the guys until rock-solid proof will be exposed.
2021-06-03 15:31
4 replies
#221
B1T | 
Ukraine devitt
Traitor? How come so? I'm still huge fan of ukrainian teams and players and always be. But I disgrace unfair play, and I don't care where this team from.
2021-06-03 15:32
3 replies
You made a decision without rock-solid proof.
2021-06-03 16:50
2 replies
#252
B1T | 
Ukraine devitt
Too much suspicious moments
2021-06-03 17:04
Hmm, there's a guy dead right next to this guys house and he's home, but there isn't proof, so guess he isn't guilty?
2021-06-04 00:25
but they were 5 Russian Ukrainians
2021-06-03 18:15
1 reply
#274
B1T | 
Ukraine devitt
?????????????????????????????????????????????? Reply needs to have actual content
2021-06-03 18:17
akuma sus-emergency meeting called
2021-06-03 13:15
1 reply
kkkkk
2021-06-03 13:51
Finally!
2021-06-03 13:15
So sad if they cheat! :(
2021-06-03 13:16
#77
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Georgia Megobari
Ladies and gentlemens, we got'em
2021-06-03 13:16
Striker, Team Unique didn't qualify and they signed the petition while ex-Marlian who participated didn't sign it. I think you need to correct this article a bit
2021-06-03 13:16
#81
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Latvia FieryBlood
EZ for AKUMA 😈😈😈😈 Noob teams crying to their daddy 😂😂😂😂😂
2021-06-03 13:17
#87
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
I'm completely all for this. If Akuma were cheating, they need to be caught despite the restrictions of the TO's blatant lack of all of this:- "- Data providers can only sell data with a 20-30 second delay; - TeamSpeak communications must be recorded by all teams for every game; - GOTV must have a 120-second delay; - In addition to a camera in front of the player, there should be an extra camera capturing the whole setup of the player; - Additional anti-cheat on top of VAC; - Other (TBD)." I hope there is a resolute conclusion to all of this.
2021-06-03 13:18
3 replies
Exactly, and I don't agree with u cuz I'm NaVi fan, it needs to be checked even if there's a small chance for them to be cheating. Tbh I don't even care that NaVi lost.
2021-06-03 13:23
Or easier solution: just play lans ;)
2021-06-03 14:12
1 reply
That would be an easier solution if it was a viable one currently...
2021-06-03 14:13
#91
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France laglory
akuma did nothing wrong
2021-06-03 13:19
10 replies
vitality did nothing wrong oh wait
2021-06-03 13:28
3 replies
Lmao
2021-06-03 14:30
2 replies
#202
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France laglory
LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO so fanni =)
2021-06-03 15:14
1 reply
streamsniping is actually funny :D
2021-06-04 06:57
+1
2021-06-03 13:52
youtu.be/t_UaP_y35w0 Then explain these clips and why they keep looking in radar or left side of their monitor??? Even in 1v2 clutch situation like on overpass. Why sergiz runs long with a molly in his hand in first clip after looking top left side of his screen? Explain
2021-06-03 20:49
4 replies
#312
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France laglory
We had topic with all explanations that probably got deleted, i dont want to rewrite all this shit they are just better /closed
2021-06-03 21:00
3 replies
Nice bait. Almost fell for it. As expected from a vitality fan.
2021-06-04 03:48
2 replies
#367
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France laglory
wdym, yesterday someone created topic with all explanations people who blamed akuma in cheating had nothing to say topic got deletec cuz of s0mple and zywhoo fans talking shit to each other
2021-06-04 08:18
1 reply
I mean anyone with brain cells can see sergiz is 100% cheating. Only thing that is keeping him from being exposed is lack of evidence. U can believe the earth is flat all you want.
2021-06-04 18:13
valve wont care
2021-06-03 13:21
They should do the same with leaf and xeppaa!!!!
2021-06-03 13:22
9 replies
It's not the same with Leaf and XEPPAA, it was just witch-hunts. With Akuma, it started out as witch-hunting at first but then it turned into a full-blown investigation due to the blatant lack of standardised rulesets from the TO's and them being called out publicly, it goes beyond a mere case of witch-hunting professional players and that is why this is dissimilar to Leaf/XEPPAA.
2021-06-03 13:26
7 replies
That's because summit didn't even try to check them pcs... They didn't take the gaules seriously even if clips were big suspicious...
2021-06-03 13:30
6 replies
The clips weren't that suspicious, they were blown out of proportion but that is my take on those clips, they are subject to opinion, including Gaules. Like I stated, this particular case isn't just a case of the usual awful witch-hunting, it's a full-blown scandal.
2021-06-03 13:32
5 replies
This is because NaVi big money and influence they making pressure towards the valve mibr didn't make same mibr org don't care
2021-06-03 13:34
2 replies
It's not just Na'Vi, friend. B1ad3 gave his views on the matter but you choose to take away from that is on you, many teams opted to sign that petition.
2021-06-03 13:35
1 reply
Ye ye but they get support because everyone russian, NA teams don't do the support to brazil teams they do the support to USA...
2021-06-03 13:37
how can you say that wasn't suspicious, you're tripping, xepa and leaf was hella cheating, they don't take brazilians seriously just cuz they're brazilians, when it comes to na'vi the history changes
2021-06-11 21:34
1 reply
I've seen worse and done worse, it's the outsider perspective and x-ray in effect. Best way to view these clips is full-POV demos.
2021-06-11 21:35
Name doesnt check out
2021-06-03 13:30
so what the problem? if they were cheating - fuck them if they are clean - witch hunt stops + we gonna have a set rules for ANY rmr and/or online event
2021-06-03 13:22
#99
Aleksib | 
Europe Pts
I agree with almost all being said but... "of course you can't watch the radar when you're in clutch situations. It's impossible, right? You must be focused on your crosshair." is just bullshit argument from b1ad3
2021-06-03 13:22
10 replies
It depends on the player, B1ad3 is projecting his views objectively but not every player will focus solely on the crosshair in 1vx situations, some will evaluate all possible information and look everywhere. When you're in the zone and you're locked into the game, the crosshair almost becomes invisible and you're running on autopilot most of the time.
2021-06-03 13:28
4 replies
No don't get me wrong i understand that. It absolutely depends on the player and the situation he's in, that's why saying "OF COURSE you can't..." is just bit a of stretch... because there are definitely 1vx situations where watching the radar is essential
2021-06-03 13:37
3 replies
I agree, I don't think B1ad3 fully understood the difference in how others handle a 1vX situation.. Fundamentally, it still comes down the basics of CS:GO but I think the question was mainly focused of 1v1 situations and I think the comment was focused on that.
2021-06-03 13:41
2 replies
you don't need to watch on the radar for 5 seconds when you already preaim the corner you expect the enemy (and is 100% there cuz you knows that) B1ad3 understand the game more than any of us. In theory in practice in experience. Maybe his word wasn't sharp enough for many people but English isn't his main language and he probably can't do that live on screen.
2021-06-03 17:04
1 reply
Yes I'm aware of this, friend.
2021-06-03 17:16
youtu.be/t_UaP_y35w0 Explain these clips then
2021-06-03 20:51
4 replies
Nah there is no reason to. I didn't even watch the game. The thing i was talking about was b1ad3 talking generally about clutch scenarious and checking radar which is crap. I'm not saying he can't be right in this case.
2021-06-03 22:31
3 replies
That's exactly why u need to watch these clips but you've decided to stay ignorant so suit yourself. Some clutch situations dont require you to look in the radar when you know where they are but you are still looking in radar to see exactly what they are holding and where they are repositioning.
2021-06-04 03:50
2 replies
Wtf why ignorant? I'm not saying anything about Akuma. I don't care if they cheated or not. All i was talking about was the statement from b1ad3.
2021-06-04 12:04
1 reply
You are generalizing blade's statement but he is obviously referring to the clutches akuma had recently. They dont look at radars. They stare lol.
2021-06-04 18:16
#101
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Czech Republic Korenus
Another RMR tournament which was utterly trash. Seriously how can these major qualifying tournies be managed that badly? like its not first time making a tournament to know how to set it up. Jesus this is frustrating to watch and to think that teams that should qualify maybe wont just because of these repeating problems...
2021-06-03 13:23
4 replies
This was 1000000000000 times worse than Flashpoint. No delay for GOTV No teamspeak recording No anti-cheat
2021-06-03 13:26
Flashpoint had awful latency issues, EPIC League CIS completely ignored the rulebook.
2021-06-03 13:43
2 replies
#214
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Czech Republic Korenus
Yea but both with problems and its one of the most important qualifiers... This shouldnt happen and definitely not twice in first round of qualifiers
2021-06-03 15:26
1 reply
You're absolutely right, friend. It's inexcusable but I guess mistakes happen... For Flashpoint, I can sympathise with them not intentionally trying to negatively impact the attending teams but with EPIC League CIS, it's hard to say given the blatant lack of industry and TO standards.
2021-06-03 15:29
volvo: i don´t 🚗
2021-06-03 13:23
Valve should host the rmr tournaments on their own
2021-06-03 13:25
#120
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Lithuania karkeris
Nip rematch bullshit made this...Now everyone just cry because it works
2021-06-03 13:30
6 replies
+1
2021-06-03 13:33
The error is on the RMR TO's, not for the teams calling out misconduct.
2021-06-03 13:41
4 replies
its still nip's fault that this happened.. sorry jonty but thats the truth
2021-06-03 15:18
3 replies
It isn't the truth though? Flashpoint admitted it was their error and issued a formal apology to all attending teams, including NiP and Anonymo. When NiP was initially having problems before the match, Anonymo actually agreed to reschedule the match but Flashpoint gave them something like 20 minutes to sort out the issues. It also states within the Flashpoint rulebook that a result can be contested prior to any unfair result, which NiP chose to do. Did you not read the article or understand the situation at all or are you assuming so because of my NiP flair? Both NiP are victims of the Flashpoint's poor handling of the situation and from there, NiP and Anonymo PR Blew the thing out of proportion.
2021-06-03 15:24
2 replies
FLASHPOINT's rulebook is very stupid, and NiP decided to abuse the rulebook in order to get an unfair rematch for anonymo. If it didn't happen, then nothing illegal would have happened in CIS rmr as well
2021-06-03 15:39
1 reply
"FLASHPOINT's rulebook is very stupid, and NiP decided to abuse the rulebook in order to get an unfair rematch for anonymo." This is what you choose to take away from the events? "If it didn't happen, then nothing illegal would have happened in CIS rmr as well" I'm afraid this is complete speculation. It's safe to assume Akuma would still be panned for what transpired at EPIC League CIS and it is the same case of an RMR TO being relegated to a poor lack of quality.
2021-06-03 15:41
btw 2 gotv's on tournament, 1 with no delay for the stream, 2nd with delay for replays, and both have different passwords ffs
2021-06-03 13:32
lets see
2021-06-03 13:32
#133
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Russia Soawii
good
2021-06-03 13:34
#144
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Hungary benig8888
Nice.
2021-06-03 13:44
#145
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Poland Krzych0a
... lol
2021-06-03 13:44
I think they missunderstood Valve for FSB, how on earth is Valve supose to get evidence like that?
2021-06-03 13:50
3 replies
they aren't supposed to, but this was an appeal to valve to send a direct message to all parties involved in organizing qualifiers for the major to get their shit together. everyone with 2 braincells can see that what akuma players were doing on the server and in front of their monitors is beyond suspicious.
2021-06-03 18:36
2 replies
"Everyone with 2 brain cells can see" I totally agree but still there are people who are unwilling to accept that akuma was cheating lol.
2021-06-03 20:53
1 reply
this guys literally turn their heads to look what's going on another monitor in the midst of a clutch or 1v2. its so blatant.
2021-06-03 22:17
Akuma xiter? Nooooooo... Akuma xiter?
2021-06-03 13:55
lmao, Marlians are too on it
2021-06-03 13:58
"Then all the clips with the radar and so on started, and of course you can't watch the radar when you're in clutch situations. It's impossible, right? You must be focused on your crosshair." for real?
2021-06-03 13:58
5 replies
ikr? I can see now why navi is struggling so much
2021-06-03 14:01
1 reply
youtu.be/t_UaP_y35w0 Watch the overpass clutch. Watch the first dust 2 clip and look at the player's eyes
2021-06-03 20:54
watch Sensei clip on Mirage. he didn't look on his screen when he aimed to his enemy at all and the enemy wasn't seen and not to expect on that corner.. until the last second he watched on second screen. No normal player does that. Nobody
2021-06-03 17:00
youtu.be/t_UaP_y35w0 Explain these clips
2021-06-03 20:54
1 reply
i agree, these look weird. it doesnt look like theyre watching the monitor but more to the side... but what i meant was: ofc you can and will glance (not stare lol) at your radar, and be it only because its a habbit. i guess its just a bad translation thing.
2021-06-04 10:15
#159
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Denmark theHeniek
XD
2021-06-03 13:59
lmao
2021-06-03 14:03
Expected
2021-06-03 14:05
#167
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Israel ZiinTotH
What a shitshow
2021-06-03 14:10
15 out of 16 signed this? Well, wouldn´t it be funny if 16 out of 16 had signed it?
2021-06-03 14:13
#172
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Poland SebL
What a shitshow that actually is. Cmon how bad can those RMRs be? I hope that the truth will win here. RESF shouldn't host any other CS:GO events.
2021-06-03 14:13
4 replies
#218
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CIS TheBigSAM
EEE and RESF* And not fully - only people who were involved in this rmr. Both RESF and EEE made great tournaments before, but they somehow picked the worst people to make this rmr
2021-06-03 15:30
3 replies
#412
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Poland SebL
Ok so those guys should get fired, that's for sure.
2021-06-04 19:09
2 replies
#430
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CIS TheBigSAM
That's for sure
2021-06-06 19:09
1 reply
#431
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Poland SebL
The whole situation is just a mess.
2021-06-06 19:10
Xd lol
2021-06-03 14:15
cry is free)))
2021-06-03 14:16
finally
2021-06-03 14:21
I hope they get banned and they can never play official tournaments again. Hashtags used by #AKUMA #MAD_CUZ_BAD #EZ4AKUMA #CRY_MORE
2021-06-03 14:24
Nice, hopefully Valve cars this time around
2021-06-03 14:29
I'am just wondering what will valve do if Akuma is confirmed cheating? Will those losing team get a chance to rematch, or will their ranks rise according to the original order. And what's more, will those cheating matches result be canceled, and all these cheating players can be banned?
2021-06-03 14:45
why would valve care about cheating.. literally half their csgo players are cheating and they are not doing anything about that. It's part of the game now csgo = cheat success great outcome
2021-06-03 14:46
1 reply
Valve: what is anticheat? Can that make money? Lmao... They only care about skincase...
2021-06-03 14:51
i think the CEOs of all the orgs lost big money because of akuma and now they want revenge xaxaxaxaxa:
2021-06-03 14:54
1 reply
what big money?? LUL you have to explain to me how navi lost millions cuz they placed 5th
2021-06-03 16:58
"Then all the clips with the radar and so on started, and of course you can't watch the radar when you're in clutch situations. It's impossible, right? You must be focused on your crosshair." youtube.com/watch?v=xswYDKTyWnA Blade, your step.
2021-06-03 14:54
so one rematch wasnt enough this year
2021-06-03 15:05
100PG - 322 players in team 1WIN - 322 players in team bankaPepsi - 322 players in team Entropiq - 322 team +players of Hard Legion who cheat before forZe - 322 players in team Gambit Grond 322 players in team IN.GAME 322 players in team K23 - famous Syman - 400% 322 team - who would believe that mou 28 years + AdreN 30 years play there for 500 usd per month NAVI + 322 player Perfecto - MAN WHO DID noT UNDERSTAND FOR AND YEAR THAT SYMAN IS 322 Nemiga 322 players in team Team Spirit 322 players in team Team Unique 322 players in team Trident - 322 players in team Virtus.pro Nice Nice
2021-06-03 15:07
1 reply
Spirit xDD
2021-06-03 17:02
Akuma Is a CIS CHAOS Peace
2021-06-03 15:13
They are not cheating... Just very lucky
2021-06-03 15:14
2 replies
xD Santa-Claus is real you know
2021-06-03 15:24
youtu.be/t_UaP_y35w0 Look at player's eyes and then the plays they make. Explain first clip
2021-06-03 20:56
"an additional anti-cheat on top of VAC (Valve Anti-Cheat)." nt CIS players, you cant cheat on VAC secured servers
2021-06-03 15:16
Imagine needing to plead with Valve to have anti-cheating protocols in place for RMR tournaments.
2021-06-03 15:26
#230
NiKo | 
Europe trey_
pog
2021-06-03 15:55
Pog
2021-06-03 16:16
all these CIS teams have no right to accuse others LOL the only time most of these teams play well is online
2021-06-03 16:16
2 replies
But Navi and VP don't play bad at LAN. And btw VP is owned by same company as Epicenter so it means there is a clutch of interest but still they signed this letter
2021-06-03 16:57
1 reply
Navi is the only team that ever shows up. The rest of them are online gods then when LAN comes they all go out in groups
2021-06-03 17:51
#235
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Brazil hugoooo
Finally courage to say the obvious on a formal way.
2021-06-03 16:21
look at these idiots getting endorsed by the community tournament organizers can't take actions based on how you feel about your loss no anti-cheat, no logs to check no teamspeak records, nothing to check as well at this point you guys are doing the same as brazilians did with chaos
2021-06-03 16:30
6 replies
+++1 Simply because orgs didn't do so well at organising and Akuma prepared well enough - an entire cis decided to witch hunt them
2021-06-03 16:33
1 reply
I don't see how preparation can make you decide to don't check certain positions all the time even if a player can be there for sure. 100% right corner chose is mathematically impossible when it is made with a few info.
2021-06-03 16:55
how?? first of all valve is responsible to make sure that GOTV and AC work on their event. The second is that Akuma cheated and the accusation doesn't come alone from weird plays nope also from weird behaviour during these weird plays.
2021-06-03 16:55
3 replies
pressuring valve for a better standard is fine, but calling out cheats without proofs is just goofy no matter how these accusations seem obvious to you they're still subjective if you don't have factual evidences
2021-06-03 17:01
2 replies
Again you can't prove it cuz the TO denied anything that could maybe prove it. It like a corrupt politician say "I can't remember" and even if you have some emails it isn't enough to say he is guilty but everyone knows he is guilty even the people that defend him... Admin bans happened in the past and I personally would be happy if Valve would do that here. But I also understand when Valve says "we assume it but we can't prove it cuz the TO denied any recording of possible evidence so we don't do it but for the next event this is the standards any TO has to do..."
2021-06-03 17:07
14 out of 16 teams have suspicions and that amounts to nothing and is not worthy of investigating? On a majority vote that is more than enough to set off an investigation. I don’t see how the community is the reason for it. I truly believe and agree with you that this investigation will most likely not bring out the “wanted” results, as in they will still stay innocent regardless of it, but since these teams have no proof, but that many suspicions, it’s fair to leave it up to Volvo and ESIC to find the proof or discredit these allegations (in case of the latter it would indeed help clear Akuma’s name somewhat). All in all I don’t see how this investigation is a bad thing. Not to mention that the more this get’s blown up, the higher the chance Volvo will have to react and fix their rules to prevent future orgs from trying to find back doors and acting all innocent based on the rules and not common sense.
2021-06-06 05:30
#245
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Czech Republic sobrez
Obviously radar-hacking + stream sniping, goodbye Akuma, u wont be missed.
2021-06-03 16:57
>According to the statement, the tournament organizers did not record the teams' communications Ruski mafia xaxaaxaxaxa)))
2021-06-03 17:03
1 reply
and Navi even asked them to do records... They can't say "we didn't know it better"
2021-06-03 17:08
#256
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Bulgaria goshyy
RIP AKUMA
2021-06-03 17:09
#257
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Europe dioio
A proper effort instead of mindless twitter crying, well done CIS
2021-06-03 17:10
valve will disband csgo full tilt is gaben
2021-06-03 17:17
#262
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United States Rayduh
Please valve
2021-06-03 17:37
LOL
2021-06-03 17:43
EVEN FUCKING TRIDENT IS COMING UP XD
2021-06-03 18:12
Akuma is actually legit. This is just cry from the old guys XD
2021-06-03 18:14
interesting
2021-06-03 18:21
Gotv with 120 sec delay? Gtfo bot teams
2021-06-03 18:23
#279
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Lebanon Dogman69
"- Data providers can only sell data with a 20-30 second delay" RIP Live betting RIP bookmaker sponsorships xD
2021-06-03 18:29
And why didn't you have this whole movement when a Chaos used cheats?
2021-06-03 18:29
Online cs is a joke. FeelsBadMan for everyone who has ever bet on online matches.
2021-06-03 18:34
#291
arT | 
Brazil Ferba
somebody has any proof that they were cheating?
2021-06-03 19:10
6 replies
Have you doubts they didn't cheat? Do you know in Japan you are guilty until you prove you aren't?? It isn't fair but that is also a way how it can work.
2021-06-03 20:25
5 replies
#316
arT | 
Brazil Ferba
we are in Japan?
2021-06-03 21:36
4 replies
I say there not only this one system in the world "prove they are guilty" you can always come around and say "they have to prove they are innocent". In this case, only Valve decided which way around.
2021-06-03 21:56
3 replies
#319
arT | 
Brazil Ferba
it's not the first time this happens in csgo scenario, we already know the answer: they're innocent until proven guilty /closed
2021-06-03 22:07
2 replies
But I can always say they are guilty for me until they have proven they are innocent. It isn't the public view but my opinion is also reasonable. Especially in such a case where every piece of evidence was erased by the TO. So they are forced to give evidence.
2021-06-03 22:15
1 reply
#322
arT | 
Brazil Ferba
ok
2021-06-03 22:23
Imagine the only Ukrainian team in playoff and they are cheaters 😂😂
2021-06-03 19:37
#310
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Iceland caverat
shame on cis scene gambit always a tier2 team
2021-06-03 20:56
which team didn't sign the letter beside akuma?
2021-06-03 21:06
2 replies
ex-Marlian
2021-06-03 21:11
#326
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Russia CYETA
marllian because teams suspect them as well
2021-06-03 22:31
#318
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Hungary Gulaash
VAC 2.0 soon youtu.be/iKkGZusUIh0?t=24 .... just kiddin, nothing will happen
2021-06-03 22:00
#325
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Europe BARAO555
well thats intresting XD
2021-06-03 22:31
Well. Lets just hope that every single person working for "Epic Leauge" just gets blacklisted, and never get to organize another event. I seriously dont care if ther were really cheating or not (however, i think so). There were just piles and mountains of litteral SHIT in that tournament/production. I can live with occational fails/hickups, but this event just managed to fuck up every possible thing. Flashpoint wasnt great either, but they at least gave it a fair try.
2021-06-03 22:59
1 reply
+1
2021-06-03 23:10
This is reminiscent of a witch hunt or one of those old timey medieval public hangings. Us humans are hard-wired to be like curious george and want to watch. I for one want the ban hammer to get dropped on players and coach if found guilty too
2021-06-03 23:10
imagine being salty cuz some1 is better than you
2021-06-03 23:37
2 replies
axaxaxa Akuma better XD nice joke
2021-06-03 23:45
1 reply
#351
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Indonesia FinZzz
S0mple 0.88 < 1.49 Sensei
2021-06-04 05:53
Akuma the best team. Very soon everyone will see their results
2021-06-03 23:53
CRY NOOBS
2021-06-04 02:19
gg
2021-06-04 05:09
No 16 years old on akuma so you can harass them and publicly accusate them of cheating, but no brazilians are toxic crybabies they harass children
2021-06-04 05:27
#350
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Indonesia FinZzz
Sensei raped s0mple and fanboys are still crying about it xD love to see it
2021-06-04 05:51
3 replies
All CIS teams (except Marlian and Akuma) signed letter for Volvo. So stfu that's not in your business. I thought indonesian brains are good and big... That was a big mistake...
2021-06-04 06:15
2 replies
#354
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Indonesia FinZzz
Cry is free. Also nice edit.
2021-06-04 06:16
1 reply
Who is crying? I am just answering on your stupid kid's commentary. Oh, I know! Your average HLTV user. Braindead, kid <13 , better (that bets 5 dollars on G0) I also like edit man
2021-06-04 06:19
He move his radar too much
2021-06-04 06:16
#359
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Russia ToughGuy
salty br fans comparing chaos to this
2021-06-04 07:02
2 replies
salty navi fans can't get over a loss.
2021-06-04 13:26
1 reply
#405
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Russia ToughGuy
Yep that's why thousands of br fans still crying over chaos guy even after a year
2021-06-04 16:26
#362
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India slavloli
Ez, now no big CIS org will ever sign them. Wanna know why? Because they all signed a letter accusing them of cheating 4Head Their career is over and they deserve this. Thanks for cheating, have a nice life working at some mine for 15 roubles/day
2021-06-04 07:31
1 reply
Its hryvnas in Ukraine tho
2021-06-07 02:47
Justice !
2021-06-04 07:46
#384
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Switzerland x676
LOL
2021-06-04 09:35
B1ad3⁠'s english has drastically improved over the years, cool coach.
2021-06-04 10:13
Akuma Cheated < Navi just sucks under pressure
2021-06-04 13:26
#399
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Ukraine killaw0w
“14 out 16 teams signed a letter of cheating accusation towards one team, after the tournament has ended” Truly “EPIC” tournament. Not surprised that this happened in CIS region. I think valve just let the whole situation go by itself. Same with bad quality of Flashpoint. Sometimes I don’t understand what people in valve are planning to do with all of csgo issues. That’s just sad how this company treats it’s own product. Maybe if one day, I will get rich as Gaben, only then, some understanding will come into my head. But now, it’s just a mystery for me.
2021-06-04 14:10
#400
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Philippines sijibats
you know it's serious when the whole CIS region is begging for valve
2021-06-04 14:31
Imagine being valve and you receive a letter like this from: bankaPepsi
2021-06-04 15:28
1 reply
hahahah :DD
2021-06-04 17:47
dear CS GO team lul
2021-06-04 15:45
#406
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Other the_dark
Additional anti-cheat on top of VAC; you heard us doc
2021-06-04 16:32
when was with mibr: oh he's just a 16 years old boy and you guys are ruin his life and career, he's not cheating, just because they can't beat him. fuck off, bunch of hippocrates
2021-06-04 19:03
Valve supports cheating..so its ok.
2021-06-04 21:04
#416
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India Drakkan
Lol how mad can you be? Imagine crying because a underrated team beat u
2021-06-05 02:31
13 replies
and few days later after beating navi,vp akuma lost to ec brugge and myinsanity JUST STOP
2021-06-05 02:34
6 replies
#418
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India Drakkan
So does it mean they are cheating?
2021-06-05 02:36
5 replies
yes, they were cheating in RMR tournament
2021-06-05 02:37
4 replies
#421
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India Drakkan
No they were not There is no proof of that
2021-06-05 02:39
3 replies
no one is watching radar like they do:))
2021-06-05 02:41
2 replies
#424
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India Drakkan
And that is your proof? It's an unfounded accusation at best
2021-06-05 02:42
1 reply
#433
SENSEi | 
Namibia XSX
YOu think 14 teams full of pros are dumb, and you and AKuma are the only ones smart? xd xd Unicorns don't exists, so does santa claus .....
2021-06-06 19:51
#432
SENSEi | 
Namibia XSX
My advice to you, be more open minded. Cheats exists, rigged games exists. If you want to believe in unicorns and perfect world, it;s your choice.
2021-06-06 19:50
5 replies
#435
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India Drakkan
I would like u to stop crying Unless the authorities investigating say that they cheated I ain't gonna change my mind because some somple fans are crying
2021-06-06 22:54
4 replies
forsaken cheated for like a year, both on offline and online. everybody suspected and some "knew" he was cheating long before he went on that lan with his word.exe my point? these fellas are home, thus there is no oversight. there's like zero possibility of them getting caught, yet the suspicion is real. why is this so? it's not like 2 cheaters some year ago waded through dozens of teams when they qualified and fought through redbull 2v2 tournament to the finals--- and only after they got to the showmatch against ence that the clips started emerging. people had compiled all their suspicious clips into footages, which immediately turned into peer pressure that the tournament organizers couldn't ignore. they were manually banned by faceit. (some cheats are undetectable, programs don't make mistakes-- cheaters or more aptly.. people do.)
2021-06-06 23:07
1 reply
#438
SENSEi | 
Namibia XSX
Don't bother bro, he is like those horses who can only see straight ahead.
2021-06-06 23:22
#437
SENSEi | 
Namibia XSX
They can't prove, are you that dumb? Everything was staged perfectly for them to cheat. They are not forsaken 10iq cheater, it was an entire team who helped them. India, what can i say ... stay dumb then.
2021-06-06 23:19
1 reply
#439
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India Drakkan
You calling Indians dumb? Look at your own batshit country If they can't prove then I ain't gonna accept that they cheated It's like a accusation Why should I believe accusations?
2021-06-06 23:28
Sore p0mple fans crying, nip 2.0
2021-06-05 02:40
while i dont think that akuma can get busted, i think the open letter states a lot of good points that valve should definitely add to their major-ruleset. just "- In addition to a camera in front of the player, there should be an extra camera capturing the whole setup of the player;" will fuck players like syrson that have to play with shit internet
2021-06-07 10:10
2 replies
It can be set to record on the hd and then be sent later on. This is a problem that can be resolved.
2021-06-11 18:27
1 reply
good point
2021-06-11 18:28
Oblige to have 2 cameras per pro player. One in front able to see the eyes and one on the back able to se the keyboard and mouse movements plus the screen. It can then be used to investigate.
2021-06-11 18:22
People who say they didnt cheat have serious brain issue x)
2021-06-13 13:01
1 reply
+1
2021-06-17 14:02
Hopefully volvo does something about these cheaters ruining our game.
2021-06-17 14:03
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