HUNDEN implicates teammates in coaching bug scandal

26/8/2021 - 22:20

Nicolai "⁠HUNDEN⁠" Petersen is claiming that some of his teammates were aware of him using the infamous coaching bug.

In a second part of an interview with TV2.dk, HUNDEN has come out to claim that some of his teammates from the time he coached Heroic in early 2020 had been aware of the 30-year-old's abuse of the infamous coaching bug, for which he went on to be banned for eight months.

"Some players knew," the 30-year-old said. "I will not give any names, because I think it is up to the players themselves."

Heroic CEO Joachim Haraldsen has denied the accusations. "The coach bug was thoroughly investigated by ESIC, which found Nicolai Petersen guilty of cheating. At the time, he explained in a written statement that 'I acted alone and without my teammates' knowledge,'" Haraldsen said before going on to claim that HUNDEN is attempting to blame the players for his own wrongdoing.

"I am convinced that ESIC and the rest of the world will see this for what it is: Nicolai Petersen failed his teammates by cheating, he failed them by sharing confidential and sensitive information with a major competitor, and now he is failing them a third time by trying to blame them for his deeds."

TV2.dk got a hold of documents that seem to support HUNDEN's allegation that some of the players knew of the bug's abuse while it was going on, according to Jacob "⁠Pimp⁠" Winneche, who had the chance to review said documents, which have not been released to the public.

"I've been presented the material the article is based on," Pimp said in a Tweet. "My judgment is that it's highly probable that he [HUNDEN] is telling the truth."

The article includes a timeline detailing HUNDEN's claims. According to it, the team had openly discussed whether to take advantage of the coaching bug, but not all of the players who represented Heroic knew of HUNDEN's eventual abuse of the bug in the May 2020 matches for which the coach was banned. At the time, the lineup boasted Casper "⁠cadiaN⁠" Møller, René "⁠TeSeS⁠" Madsen, and Martin "⁠stavn⁠" Lund from the current Heroic team, as well as Nikolaj "⁠niko⁠" Kristensen and Johannes "⁠b0RUP⁠" Borup.

The coach is changing his story from the time he was banned for his use of the bug in September 2020. At the time, he said he had been acting on his own without the knowledge of his teammates.

When asked about why he is coming out with the new information now, HUNDEN said, "I'm so far down a hole now that there's nothing to keep away anymore," referring to the current situation which sees the Dane involved in legal proceedings and an ESIC investigation over his alleged sharing of sensitive information from Heroic's strategy book.

The investigation has already been finalized, with ESIC set to present their findings on Friday at 11:00 . The Commission will reportedly slap HUNDEN with a two-year ban from their member events.

GOD HUNDEN EXPOSED THESE KIDS

2021-08-26 22:20

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DOG HEROIC

2021-08-26 22:21

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Throw teammates under the bUS EVEN BETTER NOW YES GOGO HUNDEN LOOL. What is this really. Sinking into mudsand.

2021-08-26 22:31

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Yup trying to take down people with him. So immature and petty

2021-08-26 22:33

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#131

2021-08-26 22:35

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The players knew it obviously when Hunden was giving them info

2021-08-27 04:59

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stavn teses xD

2021-08-31 13:07

Yeah, so intimate and pretty

2021-08-26 22:36

pbs.twimg.com/media/E9vnIwTVkAAEefy?form..

lmao

2021-08-27 00:33

they fucked with the wrong guy. HUNDEN is a bad MoFo. he be playin by street rules.

2021-08-26 22:51

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Street rules = no snitching

2021-08-26 23:12

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street rules = Eat or be eaten

2021-08-26 23:14

So which of those 2 options did hunden chose then? How does this witty analogy or yours apply here?

2021-08-26 23:23

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he tryna save his ass somehow i dunno

2021-08-26 23:33

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He's a RAT

2021-08-27 01:19

He is not trying to save his ass, he is already doomed. He tried to make other "suffer". This is a John Wick's trick, instead he is 30 year old, fat and didn't have a dog and a wife.

2021-08-27 01:39

LOL nice

2021-08-27 07:41

LOOL ;D

2021-08-28 01:10

i would say thats a loyality rule for an individual

2021-08-27 12:26

The streets don't actually play by their official rules. the actual rules are, there are no rules.

2021-08-27 19:40

I’m just trying to make a joke

2021-08-27 19:39

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NONO you are trying to make street rules. yes yes yes :>

2021-08-28 01:11

:< no

2021-08-28 18:54

Mwah,. Really are you sure? :>

2021-08-29 10:51

God HUNDEN doing what's right.

2021-08-26 22:22

makes a nice change

2021-08-26 22:26

snitches get stitches

2021-08-27 12:50

snitches get bitches

2021-08-28 10:20

+1 ez4HUNDEN

H🐍NDEN

REFREZH SAVED

2021-08-26 22:23

This makes me so happy. Cadian trying to silence this to death was a giveaway that he knew. Hopefully people wake up now. Players for all cheating coaches knew. Time to ban half the pros.

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Ban these noobs and we can return to the normal state of affairs pre covid.

2021-08-26 22:24

It was obvious that at least some of the players have to know, still there wasn’t enough evidence I think what Hunden is doing here is very scummy, could potentially hurt the whole scene and I hope he just shuts up, gets banned and disappears into irrelevance

2021-08-26 22:28

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2021-08-26 22:30

maybe heroic won tournaments when he used the bug? he said in the interview he just wanted the truth to be told.

ESIC would obviously account for all the times, no?

they probably would but who knows, they might do mistakes aswell

2021-08-26 22:37

The thing is, no one asked - if he would’ve exposed the players right when the Ban happened it would’ve been a whole different story What he‘s doing now is just a cheap trick to get revenge on an org that kicked him because he himself fucked up TWICE

well if he would expose the players when he got banned he wouldn't have a paycheck

You’re right but it doesn’t make Hunden look better

2021-08-26 22:39

for sure not but he could not have exposed them before he was kicked/left heroic

2021-08-26 23:01

2021-08-27 04:38

The words come from the former coach of the Counter-Strike team Heroic Nicolai 'THE DOG' Petersen.

Damn son this its becoming epic

2021-08-26 23:41

Heroic should disband

Hunden is destroying the whole csgo scene all by himself

2021-08-26 22:25

what a chad

2021-08-26 22:29

indeed

2021-08-26 22:32

I wonder how that fits into FNS masterplan

I need to know more about this whole fns plan meme, too many references I see but I don't understand

2021-08-27 00:39

There's a reason why Heroic kept him on as an "analyst". Knew there was something fishy about it. Hunden probably threatened to take down the entire org if he was sacked.

+1 this.

2021-08-27 07:14

Wow, shocking news... Almost like most players knew that their coaches were using the bug

2021-08-27 05:45

first edit: 2nd

xDDDDDD

next time, next time you get it, i believe

Nt noob , weak

hahaha

2021-08-26 23:22

2021-08-28 05:37

Hunden "Two Faced" Toledo

I mean obviously they knew, but what is HUNDEN trying to achieve with this? Literal scumbag

2021-08-26 22:27

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Yeah 100% agree, he‘s just trying to take as much people with him as possible trash person

Well if Hunden actually did nothing wrong as he claims about the recent accusations, he probably doesn't feel bad about telling the truth about the org that has completely fucked him.

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+1 Also he took the blame for everything that happened regarding the coaching bug. And then Heroic took him to court and acted like he's some sort of a scumbag. Really shitty from both sides, Hunden is not the only one to blame.

2021-08-26 23:38

He's a scumbag for revealing strats, and cheating to win a tournament. Funny thing is that heroic have him a second chance and he totally spewed them in the hand lol

2021-08-27 03:08

Gave him a second chance? The players were literally getting info from him and acted like they did nothing wrong. If you call covering your tracks a second chance, then sure. He got a second chance.

2021-08-27 03:10

Players so far didn't know he was abusing a bug, as far as I'm concerned hunden is a piece of shit who wants to ruin a teams dream by making up information since "he's in a hole" as he said, there's no proof aside of pimp(who?) Saying that what he said MIGHT be true.

2021-08-27 03:13

Keep being ignorant if you think that the players didn't know about it. The coaches just took the blame, so they wouldn't get punished as well. Heroic surely aren't the only ones who used the info from their coach bug abuse. Should they get punished? No. Should they share the blame? Absolutely yes.

2021-08-27 03:18

2021-08-27 05:01

i mean it was obv from the start that they knew, i only hope this will be over soon, csgo doesnt need another witch hunt both sides are in the wrong though and if vitality had to pay for having stream on delay in the background, heroic players should be punished aswell

2021-08-27 05:13

A rat doing what he's doing now, knowing what he did before, obviously did what made Heroic kick him. He's proving he can't be trusted. Time for him to apply to Mcdonald's

2021-08-27 01:24

Haha. Indeed. He looks frustrated and on a path of revenge. Nothing good to achieve this way. Shit hit the fan and he is blaming the rest? Pffff...

2021-08-28 01:54

HUNDEN GAMING

Wtf snitch

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Yeah he is snitching but at this point, why not. The org and players are pretty much "shitting" on him now because of the latest allegations about strat leaking and coach big. And why not expose them, if he needed to pay his sentence for the coach bug, why not make the players do the same. If his career was "ruined" because of that, the players that knew will have to do the same.

It is definitely weird that he is putting this out now. Besides there is certainly a difference between knowing and taking part, so what to think is though. Regardless it seems to me that Hunden is likely just quitting CS and has chosen to burn everything down. Sad.

If esic bans him for 2 years his cs career is done anyway I was happy for him when he finally found success as a coach but with everything he‘s done afterwards and is still doing I cannot wait until he disappears from the scene, trash human being His cheap revenge plan will potentially destroy heroic and maybe even more teams involved in the coaching bug

2021-08-26 22:43

If it's really true that the players knew, where's the problem on destroying them? It's obvious now that Heroic didn't fired him because he had proofs that the players or org knew what he was doing.

2021-08-26 23:03

No that isn't obvious at all. I wish people would halt the silly speculations and let the powers the be investigate. There can be all sort of scenarios here. Like exactly what did the players know, which of the players, anyone else in the org... Lets for example imagine this. You are a player and you coach lets you know he found an exploit, checked it out and that it is of course not anything he would ever take advantage of. Then what - do you report your coach without knowing if it is something you can prove? Plus you coach said he did not actually use it, so is there really anything to report. Now I am not saying that is what happened, just suggesting one possible scenario where "knowing" is very far from taking part.

2021-08-27 00:12

2021-08-27 01:27

"let the powers investigate".. You mean ESIC? The org who refuses to listen to anybody's story but theirs? Well good luck with that.

2021-08-27 03:21

I am sure sponsors and the like will want some good answers, if they do not get them then they will run away. Now that will not necessarily give answers to the public, however anything is better than a mob going by what ever rumors they can find - especially since some rumors are bound to be creations of baiters and the like.

2021-08-27 16:33

Well if they went into the official knowing, they are effectively taking part

2021-08-26 23:25

Orgs will still hire him behind the scenes probably guy is the best talent scout

2021-08-26 23:39

#279

2021-08-26 23:40

Just telling the truth.

Aged poorly

2021-08-27 17:28

rekt

legendary post first page pog

wtfmen

pog

based

HUNDEN!

Dirty snitch

what ahahahahaha

god cs has some entertaining drama

6ix9ine move

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I think some people are not going to sleep tonight...

2021-08-26 22:58

Cadian shivering Teses locked himself in a bathroom Stavn back to the school

2021-08-27 00:41

Honestly,no one believes that heroic players didn't know. The bad part is it is bad for the cs community. The good part of it is bad for heroic. I remember cadian whinning about the sell of fpx. He is not victim in this situation.

2021-08-27 00:57

GOD HUNDEN is bringing the judgement day upon Heroic!

LOLOLLOLOLOL

GOD HUNDEN

LOL what a sore loser.

XAXAXA

Spicy stuff

AAHHAHAHAGAHAH

30 years old snake

XDDDDD RIP HEROIC XDDDD

this scumbag should just shut up As If this wasn’t obvious already that heroic players knew. Still it’s Dirty to pull others down into the Grave he dug

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heroic players didnt help him at all during his low days, they basically betrayed him and tried to suppress him for not revealing more info

They moved him to analyst when he was banned as coach, He literally worked for the Organisation even though he was banned. Heroic gave him a second chance just for him to fuck it up by giving Info to other teams

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yes true, but who knows maybe something happened behind the scenes that made him snitch

That is just silly speculation on your part.

2021-08-26 22:48

yes, but speculation with a reason

Well thief's tell them self everyone steals.

2021-08-27 00:04

He said in the interview that he was having problems with the org shitting him and shutting him down after he rejected there offers and decided to leave Heroic

2021-08-28 03:05

Thats just even more petty. Its like a 10-year-old kicking someone in the shin because someone else slapped them. Just petty and childish.

2021-08-26 23:42

"heroic gave him a second chance" lmao why are u so sure that org itself was against using this bug? It was a fair deal for sure Also please check ur head because its painful to see ur reply filled with hatred under every comment on this page

2021-08-26 23:06

i'm sure they did not encourage using the bug but if the players knew it i'm sure the org knew as well i'm just bored of seeing this trash human trying to force himself into the victim role for the last few days

2021-08-27 08:53

How do you know that it was a second chance??? It he was fired back then there would be no paycheck. Maybe he already back then said hey im going to tell the complete truth and then we are all gonna be over this. But if it has been the money talking then it's clear he would say yea to lie. We dont know what has been going on so it's all just guesses

2021-08-26 23:13

Second chance = some side job to prevent him from reporting that everyone on heroic knew (including CEO) about the bug and were jusr fine with it

2021-08-27 00:02

Well heroic did kicked him...so its a classic revenge. ESIC figured them out and they put all blame in hunden. We all know that he wasnt the only one involved

Didn't heroic kick him after he breached his contract?

Yup, during his coaching bug ban he worked as analyst for them

Heroic paid him as analyst during his ban and he betrayed them right after, the kick was justified. Basically he dug his own grave and now he acts like he’s not the one to blame

Maybe they kicked him cuz he was giving heroic a bad name cuz he was accused. They maybe even put him as analyst so hr would keep his mouth shut.

The org literally put him on a billboard in Denmark for his return and a few weeks later he leaves the team while still having a contract.

He won't go down without pulling a few careers with him. Sigma grindset.

what grindset have you got?

finnish kisma grindset mate

What's kisma? :---D

2021-08-26 23:49

Kisma balls 😎😎😎

2021-08-27 05:50

2021-08-27 11:44

You're going to the shadow realm

2021-08-27 10:03

LOL

2021-08-30 02:09

He's taking everyone down with him lmfaoooo

PepeLaugh They knew all along

Using twitch emotes in sentences WeirdChamp

2021-08-26 22:34

Sadge u hurt my feelinks 😥😫😫

I'm sorry mens widepeepoSad

2021-08-26 22:45

Loser KEKW

2021-08-26 22:50

KKona OMEGALUL

2021-08-26 23:15

Imagine using twitch emotes in 2021 LULW

2021-08-26 23:32

Kekw hunden Kekw heroic

rip heroic

Total respect for hunden

what a byatch lmao

This is spicy. I wanna see Heroic get Banned, so Vitality get 1st in EPL group EZ CLAP.

0/8

So u r biased as f. Tells what kind of person u are, not caring about the game.

I only want them banned if they are guilty, not otherwise, i was just joking with that comment. And yes i am a biased because i like Vitality and don't like Heroic.

2021-08-26 23:00

U need to make proper jokes when joking.

2021-08-27 00:03

hunden mad because kicked lmao

LMFAO

gtfo from cs scene already, u are not welcome here

Heroic era based on a bug

We already knew this. Like you are gonna tell me you're coach is doing some weird precise calls on a map and you dont think is odd? they knew all the time.

Your coach*

2021-08-28 01:56

he got caught and now let's make heroic suffer

Why not, if they lets say fucked him, why not fuck them

2021-08-26 22:42

why ruin the scene even more, and make cs look like a clown fiesta

2021-08-26 23:10

Yeah lets just give everybody a free pass to keep the scene happy place with rainbows

2021-08-26 23:27

I wouldn't say he is ruining it more like exposing it. It already is a clown fiesta...does he hurt the scene overall by exposing it? Yes. I have spent 8 years playing this game and if it is this total shit show let it burn... Problem here is if he is lying or exaggerating and only hurting the scene which is already pretty damaged and non existent in NA. *edit: Imo they should have settled everything with an NDA and neither heroic nor hunden should have brought this to social media and to the public.

2021-08-27 09:36

2021-08-27 09:41

CADIAN I HATE YOU, FUCKING SUS

HUNDEN going kamikaze and taking down the org with him lol

"some players knew" I really fucking hope it's not stavn and/or TeSeS.

All of them knew obviously

2021-08-26 23:17

"Obviously" is quite a word to use here when no one has been named and shamed :))))))

2021-08-27 09:43

Name checks out

2021-08-27 13:49

Quite an oblivious response and even more oblivious hypothesis

2021-08-27 14:16

+1 I don't really care about Cadian, Borup or niko, but I like Teses and stavn a lot so... I hope I don't end up getting disappointed.

Some includes more than 1 by definition. From the roster at that time both Borup and NiKo are on different teams now so very likely at least one of them did know about it, along with Cadian.

2021-08-27 00:43

Snake “TwoFaced” Toledo

Nice. If players knew, ban them too. Should be fun, if that true.

big if true

Dirtiest human being in esport scene.

CRASHING THIS PLANE WITH NO SURVIVORS Hunden's really at that point where he has nothing to lose

He want to destroy Heroic =)))) hahahaha gtfo Hunden bot

DIRTY SNITCH RAT

🐍6ix9ine of cs

hahahahahaha

snitch

axaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa

Not a surprise AT ALL.

x9 die young

LUL this is huge, now it is a better drama than the others

Ez4astralis

snitches get STITCHES hunden... I would not mess with refrezh

that's kinda racist my finish friend

racist exposed

Racist check

2021-08-26 22:52

Why is it racist to think that someone is a tough guy=??

2021-08-26 23:55

0/8 terrible bait

2021-08-27 05:44

How is it racist? Because black people are physically stronger?

2021-08-27 08:58

Reported :(

2021-08-27 13:29

mens(((

2021-08-27 15:02

2021-08-27 00:20

kkkkkk

2021-08-27 02:05

is refrezh from da hood?

2021-08-27 07:26

man what a shitshow

Ahahahahaha, spicy salsa. Rip Heroic.

When you thought the bridge couldn't burn anymore... BOOM!

GRANDPA SNAKE

This guy is actually braindead

Why is he doing all of these? First strats now this ... Embarrasing

So...he should keep his former teammates safe and sound even though he took the blame for spectator bug by himself?

2021-08-27 05:22

sssssssnake

kkkkkkkkkk its so fuxing funny

🐀🐀🐀 What his interview sounded like: youtube.com/watch?v=PbBptW7DmPQ

2021-08-26 23:05

ESIC what u gonna dooo says Karrigan? twitter.com/karriganCSGO/status/14309863..

that's all non-fair-player. hahaha, when they play LAN they show how they really are without help from the sixth man.

Hunden has become worse and worse any day now he is a snitch?? but has he proof?

yeah he has appearantly

2021-08-26 23:43

Article literally says both the reporter and Pimp got hold of it and Pimp himself says it's highly probable that he is telling the truth . Now probable means something which is very likely and pimp says its highly very likely, that's too much of a good proof I would say

2021-08-27 00:46

hunden, the traitor

what a 🐍

Ha. Is this nice? In the business of making money, when thing gets ugly, it gets really ugly, isn't it?

At least he confirmed it. Expected, heroic is full of bullshit. Ban these fucking liers and give hunden a perma ban, no one will take him anyways.

GOAT HUNDEN EXPLAIN ALL!!!!

this guy lmao

expected but still, fuck off h0nden

finally they'll end this cheater's career with this ban

ayo snitchin'?

HUNDEN FOR PRESIDENT! THE HERO WE ALL NEED.

RAT

this dude aint going down without a fight lmao

From the daddy of the Danish CS to the dog

+1 pretty sad tbh

Look, he got banned for "sharing a stratbook", I honestly doubt he had any bad or cruel intentions about it but rather was actually trying to cooperate with other coaches to develop his strats further on

2021-08-27 12:44

RIP Heroic, he will take all heroic, he will not die alone xD and if it is true heroic dirty cheaters

+respect $0.001

Proof or didn´t happen.

KAZIOL

inzane

what a pathetic beta male, kids dont be like hunden

From meme to a praised coach to end like a rat and a cheater

HUNDEN is dog person, we already knew this

🐍nake

snitchin'

popcorn.gif

GJ exposing these disgusting cheating kids, Mr. god Hunden

what a doggy behaviour lmao

2021-08-26 22:40

PIMP EXPOSED HUNDED WAS FRAMED

2021-08-26 22:41

BOT HUNDEN GOD HUNDEN GOAT HUNDEN

HUNDEN reported lmao

gg Heroic

HUNDEN69 SNneeeetCHCHHH

What a Dog.

Heroic tried to throw HUNDEN under the bus, little did they knew HUNDEN was the goddamn bus!

well said

underrated comment , BUMP

Heroic tried to feed Hunden to the dogs, little did they realized Hunden was the goddamn dog!

2021-08-27 00:48

Snitches get stitches. Pimp is soft.

2021-08-26 22:44

you dirty snitch!

Going down killing the other nice

HUNDEN #1

2021-08-26 22:46

Good fuck those guys too

2021-08-26 22:47

rip heroic, thought they'd get far in EPL. going to be banned now.

if you thought the players didnt know the coach was cheating, u need to logoff the site

Lol, maybe heroic's player thought hunden got insight like as sort of God revelation.

Of course that is very safe thing to assume. But you couldn't ever provide a proof for it when the coaches himself said that players weren't involved it. Lack of evidence, that is. Isn't the case in this matter now if his evidence is genuine

2021-08-27 00:50

Expected

60 POLICE

Of course they knew...I wrote it day first. EVERYBODY WHO BELIEVES PLAYERS (Cadian, stavn etc) know NOTHING IS JUST AN IDIOT. Everyone knew everything! Both teammates and management! (by management i mean people close to coach that have any impact on what is going on in those games or at least they rule the 'org', pay the bills). They just MADE HIM say that he was the only one using this. Thats fckin obvious. I'm not surprised now he is sellling them when they kicked him because of strats leak.

2021-08-26 22:49

Of course but there should be some kind of code that you don't rat out your teammates because you killed your own career. There may be certain players on the team that knew but Hunden at this point is just trying to bring as many people as he can down with him. There's no altruism to him coming out with this information.

2021-08-26 23:02

Hunden trifaced bug exploiter and now snitch

perma ban hunden already, and investigate if the players can be banned or punish in some way.

Hunden rly fell off, coach bugging, sharing strats why did this happens mens remember the time we wrote GOD HUNDEN in chat every time he got a multikill?

Honestly this is almost the same event. Hundenic got caught, heroic didn't really back him up and didn't want to sign him again. Hunden probably give strats as a revenge.

2021-08-26 23:16

Omerta

god hunden? you're not the messiah, you're a very naughty boy!

he did snitch, but they cheated so fuck em

He cheated too. In fact,he was the main cheater in the team,so this act is despicable.

i shouldve written "all" at the end there. hunden cheated, did the whole strat bullshit, and is now ratting them out. the players cheated, said NONE while hunden served his ban and ended up pissing him off so much he flipped on em like this. everybody is a loser and an asshole here

I knew it, no surprise

He is so done right now just retire and start sharpening your skills in serving burgers.

2021-08-26 22:54

3 careers destroyed (Atleast)

2021-08-26 22:56

Gj, ban this bot cadian ASAP

Nooo HUNDEN, br0 😥 wtf r u doing, ya fookin' cant??

so they beat vitality in final two times clean or not?

2021-08-26 22:59

Online CS so f.... bad

AHAHAAHAHA expected

This is a bad fucking look. Let me just take everyone else down on my way out the door. Hunden is actually a piece of shit. Can't wait til he gets drilled out the scene. I always saw him before the coach bug anyway as a Daps that made it but damn he's fallen hard.

this is actually good because it exposes heroic as a sham. they are onliners, pure and simple. these players are so untrustworthy and scummy that they could be doping themselves with performance enhancing drugs before matches.

2021-08-26 23:04

Bro it's likely most of the players on most of the teams who had a coach implicated knew. I doubt there's very many completely clean hands in this scene generally. It's just too easy to cheat one way or another in CS. Also they may be onliners but until we get consistent lan back it doesn't really matter. Online is still mostly all we have. You still can't even hold an event in the US. You can barely do it in Europe.

2021-08-26 23:07

i'm just of the opinion that this scene desperately needs more of these exposés, because eventually it'll force valve or SOMEONE to do something. this hunden drama while very entertaining to watch as it unfolds.. is just probably the tip of the iceberg. it's just one of the cases we know. we just need lan back so we can have at least some oversight..

2021-08-26 23:11

I agree that integrity in online gaming generally is a good thing. I just don't think a coach who has been implicated in strat sharing telling on his teammates is a good look at all.

the fuck is he doing that for stupid snitch hope we never see him in cs again

Remember when Heroic did those giants posters « Hunden is back yay! » Hahahaha

gonna get thrown out of the cs scene so he wants to drag everyone down with him LMAO

this guy managed to cheat,leak info and snitch at the same time for same team ... fucking moron

The crazy thing is him telling on his teammates is what will be the nail in his coffin. Third strike so to speak for my American homies. Like he probably could have even come back from the strat book thing in a few years but tattling like a little bitch on his way out? People aren't going to forget that.

2021-08-26 23:08

i aren't think that. i think his career was dead in the water already and with heroic considering legal action against him this was probably the best move he could make. i mean he basically just showed the whole scene what a shitty org heroic is. sure, hunden is a piece of shit himself, but it's good for us that he set this fire on heroic.

Yes. Fuck the org and fuck the team.

2021-08-28 02:07

when does it end

Did i get that right, they all knew about the coaching bug and even discussed abusing it in the team? What the actual fuck.

I wish what he has actually goes public, shits gonna go down hard. What he says is a serious allegation. Only way we could ever proof players knowing about the coach bug was some evidence from their coach itself, we got it now.

2021-08-27 00:52

i mean obviously, it would be strange for him to suddenly know the location of opponents, everyone would have to be on the same page in order for the bug to be fully taken advantage of, and yeah this situation is not pretty.

It's hard to judge the players when we don't know what was discussed. If hunden said: "I think other teams are exploiting this coach cam bug. Should we do it too? ", then even if they all say no, they clearly have a discussion about it.

2021-08-27 11:58

Snitch

oh shit things are getting spicy

in germany we call people like him a hurensohn

+1 approved

Hunden aka Timo Werner

2021-08-26 23:24

If you've worked together, called each other bro and been friends you can't just rat them out like that. Sure he is a cheater, he doesn't want people to think he is the only one who did it and be the sole fall guy. Everyone feels that way, but if they were your friends you don't do that shit. Because now not only is he forever known as a cheater in csgo, but also as a rat. You aren't born a rat, you die a rat. - some mafioso probably

-1 totally disagree with you , F every rat who was involved in the cheating scandal and that hid from it when it got exposed those are the real RATS , now that he calls them up he is called a rat ? F off with your bullshit mafioso quote , cheaters SHOULD ALL GET VAC BANNED

2021-08-27 00:37

Lol they ain’t his friends they ousted him. He’s just getting revenge. Very based!, exposing scum for the scum they are

2021-08-27 02:48

Hunden Astralis?

No.

HUNDEN to valorant. he's ruined his legacy and credibility, as if this is true then it proves he lied during the previous investigation in which he "co-operated with ESIC" in.

DOG????

I don't really think that some player from Heroic deserves to be banned only because of being aware of using the bug by his coach. Does that player really deserves a ban? Isn't it the organisation/managers to blame for the dispute? Why is he about to ruin some players' career because of an argument with the organisation?

it just seems to me that heroic threw hunden under the bus when they just found convenient reasons to do so after their poor results on lan (cologne 2021) but they severely underestimated how much damage hunden can do to the org and its image. everyone knew that heroic can't be the team on lan that they are online, because just look at cadian's cam sometimes: there's no fucking way this guy ain't doing drugs like speed or maybe taking a shit ton of stimulants like adderall..

2021-08-26 23:28

The problem is that he's doing much more damage to himself. I don't think that he would spend much time to find a new contract after cancelling one with Heroic. But now, he is ruining his career all the way, while Heroic can still hire another player even in case their player is banned

let's just face the facts: his career was already dying the moment he became the face of this coaching bug scandal and now with the heroic organization going forward with "legal proceedings" against him and ESIC about to slap a 2-year ban on him.. give this man some respect because he's going out with a bang. he's swinging that door so hard it's gonna fuck up heroic's image as an org forever.

Great takes so far ! 8/8

+1 If the evidence is genuine, could have used it to leverage his way with the org and set things right or in his favor, probably a small ban but he got big balls to completely burn the bridge and fuck everyone else alongside him.

2021-08-27 00:54

2021-08-27 04:52

Any players that knew about their coach using a bug to give them an advantage deserve a ban as much as the coach does. They benefited off the cheating and did nothing to stop it, i could maybe understand young players being given a second chance because i know that for young players standing up against an authority figure like their coach might be hard but if it was Cadian that knew, Cadian being a fully grown 25yr old man at the time should 100% be hit with a ban and money earned from tournaments during said time should be forfeit.

2021-08-26 23:52

+11111111111111

2021-08-27 02:33

What a snitch lmao Most two-faced person on the scene

Heroic dogs get banned

lol

And this dogs still cheating Lost every match on Lan 5-0 in EPL online Use common logic mens this can't be legit team

2021-08-26 23:26

you can take any number of stimulant type drugs in a home or a workplace setting and never get caught.

2021-08-26 23:30

hunden to the dark side

"If I am going down, I'll take you with me" strat book of cam hunden, at least I know now that not only people from czech rep. are snakes

2021-08-26 23:34

What a MESS!

2021-08-26 23:36

the team always knows. imagine thinking u buried a problem but you have skellies as well. gl all :)

2021-08-26 23:37

He took the fall for them and now they think they can just get rid of him like that? See ya later kiddos, actions have consequences

2021-08-26 23:46

Why are people upset that he's exposing the players? Cheaters in all its forms should be punished, if the players knew he was using the coaching bug to their advantage the players should be exposed and should be punished with an equally long suspension that Hunden served.

it's because of the timing. hunden said he wanted the truth to come out eventually, like it has nothing to do with the lawsuit. :D it just comes off as bitter, regardless if the claims are true or false. also he's 100% done in cs, burnt every bridge there is. maybe valorant? :DDDD

2021-08-27 08:27

HUNDEN two faced toledo confirmed

2021-08-26 23:47

never go against 500IQ Hunden god

2021-08-26 23:48

I'm not saying it is the case, but there is a chance that heroic fucked up hunden in a way, and he's just fucking them up back. we don't know everything, and we don't know why he even shared that to begin with. I don't think I want anyone to get banned, but if they did something fishy to him, I can somewhat understand him I guess.

I feel like the org and Hunden talked it out when coach bug got revealed. Hunden takes the blame, players are safe and he gets a hero's welcome back. Seems like something happened after that, maybe Heroic fucked him over some way or Hunden got greedy and ungrateful and did actually went behind their backs to sell someone their stats like the reports say and it tipped the scales off. Do remember Hunden was reportedly sighted by Astralis before Heroic even removed him or announced going to the court . Now that everything is falling apart for him, he decided to take everyone down with him. If the evidence is genuine, players deserve a ban too. Not for just knowing but admitting that they never knew

2021-08-27 00:59

Yeah exactly, hard to know what really happened, we get rough points, but we don't know what lead to each of them and the story behind it. Not sure I'd really want to see them getting banned, even if that's true, I am aware that it's pretty much cheating any way you look at it, but I also believe that they learned from their mistakes and I doubt they cheat in any other way.

2021-08-27 01:02

Well cheating is cheating and there should be punishments for it. You can probably cut some slack for young guy like Stavn who is new to Tier 1 and can't oppose his captain and coach for something but you can't let someone like Cadian get away with it who has been in the scene for some time, playing on top tier. Forget Esic, if the evidence is genuine and Valve acts like they did against coaches, these players would be barred to participate in the next majors like coaches are

2021-08-27 01:09

I guess, it would be sad seeing that happening tho.

2021-08-27 11:41

I kinde liked the guy, but with all this crap around him? Not anymore....

2021-08-26 23:54

ESIC = useless animals that just soak money. they need to hang from a tree.

2021-08-26 23:56

I agree with you but the way you express it is way too far my dude

2021-08-27 00:40

Hunden you fucking rat. Instead of being quiet as he should be he starts to accuse his ex teammates with shit like this AFTER they kicked him. What a fucking rat. Noone can prove that what he is saying is true btw...

#294 + Cry is free

Literally says he got evidence that pimp says is quite good enough. Read

If he wants to prove it it's probably smarter to send his evidence to ESIC than show it to a Danish news site (who then showed it to Pimp) or make it public. I'm gonna want to see evidence before I believe a word this guy has to say.

2021-08-26 23:58

He claims esic didn't listen to him for his recent ban shit, why would he trust them with this shit? Going to your local reporter with an actual local tier 1 analyst who got relations with every involved in the scene makes more sense

2021-08-27 01:01

srsly? noooo ovbiously they knew lol. or are u telling me he gave some shady info out of no where and the just used it without asking how the hell does he know?

2021-08-27 00:16

can hunden just go valorant and stop crying he never shows any signs of being regretful, he just wants to drag others down at this point "no one wanna listen to me boo hoo", maybe because you cheated for years and your word is worth nothing because of your own actions?

2021-08-27 00:19

They most likely knew, but unless he delivers some bulletproof evidence those claims will be nothing but claims. And without proof I wouldn't even believe this guy if he'd tell me his name is Nicolai.

2021-08-27 00:25

So when are we taking away their prize money and titles?

2021-08-27 00:27

Hunden "two faced" toledo exposed again and now that he is down bad he wants to drag other snakes from trash org heroic. what a shitshow.

its so entertaining to watch real human nature transpiring. Forget all those fluffy hypocritical statements by nafany how "people should love each other and treat each other well'' etc. THIS. This is the real human nature!!!! Love it.

#294

2021-08-27 00:42

They don’t! Hunden will be getting cake

2021-08-27 02:50

I respect this if I go down Ill drag you with me xD its kinda pathetic but also completely at its right if they knew = ban

RIP heroic.

Release dem documents so we can actually see whats going on

2021-08-27 00:47

Heroic messed up big time playing with fire. Revenge is a hellova drug

2021-08-27 00:49

I can't wait for the trial to begin. Case #4323: International CS association vs Hunden Prosecution team: Xantares, Allu and Fox. Decision: Guilty. Sentence: 2 years-ban + community work which includes toilet cleaning for being a snitch.

2021-08-27 00:56

hehe

cs drama is so good

Gla1ve was right all along, hunden was one of the worst offender yet the player acted like they didn't know anything about the bug

2021-08-27 00:58

Epic response twitter.com/gla1ve_csgo/status/143098644..

2021-08-27 01:00

can I have the source?

2021-08-27 15:52

snitch but god I hate heroic.

2021-08-27 01:25

WOW... When you think that someone cannot get lower here is Hunden! I love when they put the final nail on the coffin by their own... Does anyone seriously believe that ANY player was oblivious about in-game bug exploit? Does anyone seriously believe this will be admitted? Grow up ...

2021-08-27 01:36

I believe it already did when it came out after Cologne I agree tho doesnt make him look great but as he said he is too Deep Down now anyway (own Words)

2021-08-27 02:00

BAN HEROIC NOOBS

2021-08-27 01:34

jesus christ.... hunden wants to get dirty, LOL!

2021-08-27 01:42

I am so glad that this guy just cannot shut up. This phenotype also exists in LOL under the name 'bwipo', he also can't shut up and always makes sub-optimum moves. He's such a primate, bunch of coaches went down for this and he completely ignores the entire drama just hyperfocusing on his innocences. Nice narrative bwipo.

yea, this is some media stunt hunden is trying to do cuz he got nothing to lose now... i love it, it's just content for the cs scene lmao. :DDD

2021-08-27 01:47

he tried leaking strat folder for heroic but the file size was too big, now he's just leaking excuses

2021-08-27 05:05

gmx 2.0

2021-08-27 02:32

Heroic is such a shit show now, and it's gonna be hard to take them as a credible roster at this point. It sucks because they're a genuinely talented team but now they'll be marred by this

2021-08-27 02:36

Why idiots here acting like he doing wrong, wtf? Should have done before, but still not too late

2021-08-27 02:39

+ 100 % true, they should have said everything and exposed the truth. "better late than never"

The lan will return, when that happend they will return to be an unknown or irrelevant team.

2021-08-27 02:46

twitter.com/Thorin/status/14309898246857..

2021-08-27 02:51

true

2021-08-27 03:00

Who cars what some bratish manchild aren't thinking

Yeah cause being sceptical of the words of a person that have behaved as a scumbag on multiple occasions is such a weird thing to do....if anything it is the rational thing to do

2021-08-27 08:28

Thats Thorin alright

2021-08-27 09:14

twitter.com/gla1ve_csgo/status/131203961..

2021-08-27 02:54

i cant think of anyone stupid enough to hire this dude

haha and so the saga continues

well if i was hunden i could have pointed this out earlier not leaking heroic's strats xD

2021-08-27 03:38

the fact is without hunden csgo scene would never be as good as it was. hunden made csgo and this is just an attack on his legacy

2021-08-27 04:07

If i were in his position, i wouldnt hold back for a second. Do the names, and go down with the ship Hunden!

2021-08-27 04:17

AHAHHAHAHHA SNITCH

nice spelling of judgement in the 6th paragraph STRIKER.HLTV

2021-08-27 04:57

🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍 HUNDEN

BAN HEROIC AND HUNDEN FOR LIFE These clowns are ruining the image of CS eSports.

2021-08-27 05:09

THE TRUTH ON HLTV!! LONG HAVE WE WAITED GOD SAVIOR HUNDEN WILL SMITE THE HEATHENS And the whole corrupt scene will come crashing down like a rotten barn. And it will be beautiful

2021-08-27 05:14

Kekw

2021-08-27 05:51

wtf esic if what hunden and pimp are saying is true, you could have those documents which stated some players knew about the bug abuse, may don't try to copy b99 and shut your trash organisation. Wow gg I am done with csgo's pro scene. p.s. jhonny 404 my account, ty

2021-08-27 06:02

after cheating in game now in irl

2021-08-27 06:11

Hunden taking one for the Team, Just to Expose these cheaters What a Hero!

2021-08-27 06:51

Just be a man and take your ban. It really isn't hard to not do the wrong thing

2021-08-27 07:15

never mess with the big guy

2021-08-27 07:21

hunden rat for exposing cheating players wow he's such a bad person... i hope cheaters will never get punished and he gets silenced because what's he's doing is evil and he should just stfu!!! what a clown!! he will ruin everything for these guys who could use illegal bugs to win more money and get away with it omg i hope he just stfu like a real man and not be a dog omg stfu fat guy!!!11 you get banned so stop exposing others who already spit on you and ruin your career more omg just stfu and still let them play already omg what a noob hunden no heart no love no peace in this guy rly... evil bad dog

2021-08-27 07:34

Once during university me and 2 friends got caught smoking weed in dorm room, one of them a foreign and the other on last warning. We all had separate meeting with board and Dean. I told them that I will take full blame and they just came into my room at bad time. I got expelled from university. But I protected my 2 friends and allowed them to achieve in life. I guess there are 2 types of people in life. HUNDEN is my complete opposite and if my position would have tried to get the 2 people expelled instead :)

2021-08-27 08:14

+ respect

Once... are you sure it happened just once? And by it I mean making up stories.

2021-08-27 09:19

True story, I was the Dean.

2021-08-27 09:23

Yeah, and later in life when those friends "threw you under the bus", you just kneeled like a good boy to get fucked.

2021-08-27 13:26

sure, smoking weed in uni dorm is just like Cheating in tournaments thousands of dollars worth he should have done it before, but he must do it now, if they really cheat together, then fall together

2021-08-27 16:51

are you dumb lol

2021-08-27 17:51

GOD HUNDEN Heroic exposed

2021-08-27 08:19

Could just be false accusations from a desperate man. Never blindly belive one side of a story

2021-08-27 08:25

I would also snitch on this people, why should i get the shitstorm for it when every of my teammates knew that i was abusing an bug and lead them to get extra info about enemies and about the game. +1 for hunden

2021-08-27 08:30

+1 for HUNDEN, exposing fake heroic

2021-08-27 08:32

This shit is great for my Heroic stickers :D New Ibuypower !!!

2021-08-27 08:34

if half the coaching scene did it - everyone knew. Every single player, every single caster. They all knew.

2021-08-27 08:40

I doubt that all of the caster knew. There were a lot of tier 2-3 casters who probably had no idea, simply because they didn't have the connections with players and other coaches to inform them. But yeah I refuse to believe that there were players on those teams who didn't at the very least strongly suspect that their coach was cheating. Like, how could you not realise that something was up

2021-08-27 09:17

pros are using exploits in order to gain an advantage? wooooow, shocking. not it’s almost like if you play at the highest level that you will use anything you can to succeed. look at baseball. I don’t really like the sport, but maybe it will help make my point. MLB has so many loopholes for cheating and players and orgs take them. players on greenies and the pitcher using sap on his hand to improve the pitch? legal de jure. so players do it. you have to close the loopholes, not blame pros for exploiting them, just like in every other sport. the only difference being that the analogical loophole in videogames in the game’s code and therefore built into the game. the onus is on valve to close the loopholes, not the players. is it scummy to take advantage of these ‘loopholes’ in order to gain an advantage? yeah, a bit. but I still don’t blame them. real money is at stake all the time in these tournaments. teams want to succeed by any means necessary. the only way to truly prevent the olofboosts and astralis radar smoke bugs and hunden spectator cam bugs of CSGO is to fix the game, not regulate around it. it’ll punish those who get caught, sure, but it will never truly stop it…

2021-08-27 08:45

I am sorry bro, stopped reading at "look at baseball"

2021-08-27 09:28

HUNDEN: basically invents Danish CS Also HUNDEN: is currently doing everything in his power to destroy Danish CS

but this does raise a question for how many years Hunden and his team mates had been abusing those illegal bugs? So, did he really invent or just abused something?

2021-08-27 23:08

He's been bringing up young Danish talent since Source. Damn near every top tier Danish player was scouted by HUNDEN at some point. He absolutely built the scene from the ground up, if Sweden had a player like him then NiP and fnatic would still be full Swedish lineups. Unfortunately he also happens to be a fucking idiot, so here we are

2021-08-28 01:30

why isn't this valve's fault tho? why game testers did not find this 'bug'. Basically after 9 years of cs:go they still have a very bad matchmaking where is proof that their developers are just doing half of their job.

2021-08-27 09:55

ban heroic

2021-08-27 10:47

lmaooo, hunden going through all stages of grief so fast :D

2021-08-27 10:56

God Hunden from hero to zero just in a few weeks

2021-08-27 11:11

not a few week after the coach bug it already got damaged a lot

2021-08-27 11:42

kick this trash coach out the scene pls

2021-08-27 11:39

they kinda did, 2 years is sooo long in esport

2021-08-27 11:43

I hope the evidence turns out to be fake :/ God damn it.

2021-08-27 12:04

Imagine if this is proven. Will be better than IBP

2021-08-27 13:16

Strip Heroic from 2020 Cologne title etc. Fucking cheaters..... AND ban HUNDEN for life, what a fucking RAT.

2021-08-27 14:01

is he actually mad at players or something? i thought it was between org and him

2021-08-27 14:47

Shame for Danish CS I feel sorry for all Danish teams including Astralis right now it's so bad for the danes reputation feels so bad man

2021-08-27 14:55

Only a rat can do this: "I am convinced that ESIC and the rest of the world will see this for what it is: Nicolai Petersen failed his teammates by cheating, he failed them by sharing confidential and sensitive information with a major competitor, and now he is failing them a third time by trying to blame them for his deeds."

2021-08-27 15:54

stop blaming hundencam, EVERYBODY ELSE IS GUILTY BUT HIM OKAAAY

2021-08-27 18:39

Wtf its obvious that every player did know about this. In every team that used the bug. XD

2021-08-27 17:44

Not every player, not every team. Even then, how credible a source is Hunden, a convicted cheater and liar?

2021-08-28 02:03

LMAOOOO LETS GOOOOOO

2021-08-27 17:52

HUNDENCAM IS A RAT

2021-08-27 18:35

Hunden such a rat, lol

Such a baby

2021-08-27 19:17

Very dishonorable

2021-08-27 19:28

Well, if he is turning in others he knew were participating in the cheating scandal then it is the right thing to do. "Rat or snitch" accusations are just some gangsta-wannabe talk, telling the truth > "snitching" Those other Heroic players could have raise their hand and say "i made a mistake, should have never done it, i'm ready to face consequences". Now it is too late for that when they have been exposed by someone else.

2021-08-27 23:02

+1 I second your opinion. Hunden protected them and now he's being thrown under the bus. I see no issue with this 'snitching'. He's sacraficing what's left of his name to this whole scene to reveal underhanded players who pretended to know nothing. Might not be the right time, as he should have done so from the beginning, but might as well now that his career is over. tl:dr Investigate HEROIC and punish those who need to be punished, as for Hunden - good luck.

2021-08-28 10:32

DOG HUNDEN

2021-08-28 19:51

HEROIC CHEATERS

2021-08-29 01:15

I mean if they cheated they cheated The only thing I learn from this is that all of the heroic players coaching staff and org are pieces of shit and by default will never have my support.

2021-08-30 01:56

unreal

2021-08-30 02:12

Rat and a snitch

2021-08-30 02:24

hunden goes down as the REAL savior of the cs scene

2021-08-30 03:57

God Hunden!!! Fuck heroic up!

2021-08-30 10:09

Heroic fanboys malding over facts jesus

2021-08-30 13:44

heroic little kids talked on hunden (on stratbook thing) now he does the same on when he was cheating for them.

2021-08-30 18:53

of course you should ban players too for the bug exploit...

2021-08-30 19:44

2021-08-30 20:42

This guy ended up being the biggest rat in csgo history, apparently he's not just trash as a player.

2021-08-31 13:18

Can someone make a Hunden merged into Judge Dredd meme ? Would love to see one of those :D Also if the players are guilty, they should burn as well. Idc about Hunden he did some shitty stuff, but if heroic players are guilty, so they should sink with hunden.

2021-09-01 10:53

I guess he just keeping it 1HUNDED - All bad though- interested to see what further information they put out on Friday- Heoric fucked up a couple of my Parlays' gotta get a refund

2021-09-02 05:27

last statement sounds very questionable and delusional

2021-09-03 22:16