HUNDEN to serve two-year ban following ESIC investigation

The Danish coach received a ban from the esports watchdog group after he was found in breach of their Code of Conduct.

The Esports Integrity Commission (ESIC) has announced that former Heroic coach Nicolai "⁠HUNDEN⁠" Petersen will serve a two-year ban from all of its member events as a result of breaching ESIC's Code of Conduct, caused by the sharing of confidential material from Heroic's strategy folder ahead of IEM Cologne with an opposing team.

The sanction concludes a nearly two-month-long investigation from the watchdog group, who found HUNDEN's public admission of sharing "anti-strat material of opponents", in conjunction with their own evidence, enough to sanction the coach under article 2.4.5 of their Code of Conduct:

"The facts of the alleged incident are not adequately or clearly covered by any of the above offences, conduct that brings Esports, the Game, Event, ESIC or a Member into disrepute."

In outlining their investigations, ESIC stated that the team with whom the confidential material had been shared was one that HUNDEN was in the process of negotiating a move to and one that was simultaneously competing in IEM Cologne alongside Heroic. Although never mentioned by name in the ESIC report, that team is believed to be Astralis, who had reportedly had the 30-year-old as their prime candidate to replace Danny "⁠zonic⁠" Sørensen at the head of the team next year.

HUNDEN has been banned for two years by ESIC

Although ESIC found that the information in question had not been accessed by the recipient after a forensic IT report was conducted by an independent firm, the threats created to "the integrity of an ESIC member event," "the reputation of an ESIC member," and the "reputation and competitive integrity of esports" by the sharing of the documents was sufficient enough to warrant a breach of their Code of Conduct.

The watchdog group also commented that their sanction was making no attempt to resolve or relied on the ongoing legal proceedings opened by Heroic against HUNDEN.

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Heroic announce legal proceedings against HUNDEN following "clear breach" of contract

In an addendum, ESIC added that allegations made by HUNDEN in regards to ESIC's conduct of the investigation, specifically in his claim that the group had chosen to "not hear [him] out" and that he was threatened with a longer ban in case of an appeal, are false.

ESIC stated that HUNDEN was offered the opportunity to respond to their decision on multiple occasions, but "failed to provide [them] with any reply of substance relevant to the charge made against him." They also said that his public statement regarding the sharing of anti-strat material amounted to an admission of his conduct and made the charge a self-evident matter.

The sanction represents the second ban handed down to HUNDEN by ESIC, who previously issued a 12-month ban to the Danish coach after he was found to have exploited the infamous spectator bug on two occasions in matches against Astralis and Spirit. That ban was later reduced to eight months after HUNDEN cooperated with ESIC's investigation, stating at the time that he had acted on his own without the knowledge of his teammates.

However, in an interview with TV2.dk on Thursday, the coach has changed his story, now saying that some of his teammates at the time had been aware of his abuse of the bug. Jacob "⁠Pimp⁠" Winneche, who had the chance to review documents submitted to TV2.dk that seem to support HUNDEN's claims, has stated that he believes it is "highly probable that [HUNDEN] is telling the truth."

HLTV.org knows that any evidence regarding the allegations made by HUNDEN have not been provided to ESIC, and that the watchdog group was not made aware of the accusations prior to the publication of the TV2.dk interview.

With the two-year ban already in effect as of August 25, 2021 and running through until August 24, 2023, HUNDEN will be ineligible to compete in any ESIC member events, including ESL, DreamHack, WePlay, BLAST, Relog, and those run by a number of other organisers.

The resulting suspension has HUNDEN preparing to depart Counter-Strike entirely, as he told TV2.dk that "right now, there is nothing called Counter-Strike for me after this" and that he would be quitting the esports title.

Denmark Jacob 'Pimp' Winneche
Jacob 'Pimp' Winneche
Age:
26
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
976
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.64
Denmark Nicolai 'HUNDEN' Petersen
Nicolai 'HUNDEN' Petersen
Age:
30
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.81
Maps played:
1578
KPR:
0.55
DPR:
0.70
Undeserved.
2021-08-27 11:01
62 replies
#4
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India OOFmiester
Justice for HUNDEN!
2021-08-27 11:01
18 replies
Deserved
2021-08-27 11:03
6 replies
Deserved
2021-08-27 11:20
5 replies
#70
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Ukraine Chrisjkk
cadian and his squad deserve aswell if what god HUNDEN said is true
2021-08-27 11:21
4 replies
GOAT HUNDEN
2021-08-27 11:43
#223
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India rivervp
Yea can't wait to see heroic banned as well
2021-08-27 12:46
#302
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Canada loldougie
Obviously every single player knew about the coaching bug LOL how would you tell your player where the enemy is without them knowing that you were using the bug?
2021-08-27 16:22
1 reply
true
2021-08-30 12:37
think about it like this: Maybe after all he actually is NOT so good IGL/coach when he receives so many bans for "cheating" continually in the pro scene... Maybe he was considered "so good" only cuz he actually was cheating...
2021-08-27 11:40
7 replies
He was never really 'good'. Some people made 'hundenGOD' memes and I guess some people thought they are serious. He was always one of the worst fragging IGL in history (if not THE WORST). He had some good calls but it was never enough because of his 0.8 rating. Good calls are one thing, but if you cant kill people and dont have at least 2 s1mple level players in your team you wont achieve anything.
2021-08-27 11:47
4 replies
Yes I think it was mostly a meme
2021-08-27 11:54
hunden is a excellent talent scout, thats it
2021-08-27 12:32
how come every team he was coach eventually succeeded? he was good, not at aiming, but at tactics
2021-08-27 15:00
Good take.
2021-08-27 18:33
It was just a meme. He never was any good and a pretty trash player himself
2021-08-27 12:38
He received ONE ban for cheating and one ban for actually "harming" his team (which isn't actually proven at all). You didn't even read the article before commenting, please consider not ever talking publicly on the internet ever again. :)
2021-08-27 14:29
died for our Sins new Jesus step aside Jame
2021-08-27 11:52
JUSTICE FOR HUNDEN! HE DESERVES A LONGER BAN
2021-08-27 13:30
Valorant gonna receive a new coach
2021-08-27 14:19
german, how so fast?
2021-08-27 11:02
8 replies
what do you mean?
2021-08-27 11:03
6 replies
#35
ropz | 
United States Goob
it’s always you or not your alt germanyfirstmoonlanding
2021-08-27 11:10
5 replies
That's fake news. Check last couple of news threads and look who is first. It's very diverse.
2021-08-27 11:11
4 replies
#48
ropz | 
United States Goob
true not always but quite often especially for a while there during the last iem event idk what it is right now
2021-08-27 11:15
3 replies
Probably just a bug!
2021-08-27 11:18
2 replies
oder einfach nur behindert
2021-08-27 11:33
heheheheheh
2021-08-27 15:48
in germany they call it BLITZKRIEG
2021-08-27 12:17
Deserved
2021-08-27 11:05
Deserved
2021-08-27 11:12
reported
2021-08-27 11:16
This is sad:( doubt he will return
2021-08-27 11:17
9 replies
#169
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United States SYM3iOTiC
Lmao Who cars cheating dog
2021-08-27 12:10
8 replies
he is a great igl
2021-08-27 12:12
3 replies
#203
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Australia CaZeR01
He is a cheating snake
2021-08-27 12:35
2 replies
No!
2021-08-27 14:31
#304
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Canada loldougie
2021-08-27 16:24
#303
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Canada loldougie
Almost every top coach cheated
2021-08-27 16:23
3 replies
#307
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United States SYM3iOTiC
SO? all of them are dogs
2021-08-27 16:28
1 reply
#334
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Canada loldougie
Not really, there's thousands of dollars on the line and you know that the opponent's coach is going to use it. So if you don't, you could just lose because of that.
2021-08-27 20:34
#345
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Australia CaZeR01
Yeah but they didnt procede to give sensitive information from an org that gave him a second chance to another team
2021-08-28 05:35
#82
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Slovakia Daev0n
Why isn't the team he sent it to punished as well? Asking for strats is just as bad as sending them. Why is nobody mentioning this? Is it because ya'll love to blame HUNDEN for everything I wonder?
2021-08-27 11:26
13 replies
Nah, apparently they didn’t look at whatvhe sent, says they did an IT forensic investigation
2021-08-27 11:42
HUNDEN probably did it on his own accord to try and put himself into a better position or as a « goodwill » sign
2021-08-27 11:43
Astralis isnt mentioned anywhere as the party to which Hunden helped in the report , its a speculation Astralis probably didnt knew that what Hunden is sharing is something very sensitive that Hunden shouldnt be sharing to else outside of his teams , they might be in shadow What was shared , wasnt used anyway or even seen according to what the report says why should they be punished with above reasons ?
2021-08-27 12:00
5 replies
#201
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Slovakia Daev0n
2021-08-27 12:33
4 replies
they havent found one , the name isnt revealed. Either because they couldnt actually find a name or they were silenced to reveal it
2021-08-27 12:46
3 replies
#227
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Slovakia Daev0n
"ESIC stated that the team with whom the confidential material had been shared was one that HUNDEN was in the process of negotiating a move to and one that was simultaneously competing in IEM Cologne alongside Heroic." ESIC does know, they just didn't want to reveal it. I mean at this point it's safe to assume it's Astralis, since HUNDEN was "in the process of negotiating a move to" with them. And they also competed at Cologne.
2021-08-27 12:50
2 replies
its safe to assume , yes but again there is nothing out there that reveals Astralis behind it. Its same like we always knew that coach cant just abuse their bug without letting their players know , but we moved on ahead of that cause there was no evidence to back that up until Hunden snitched yesterday. Thats the case.
2021-08-27 12:52
1 reply
#305
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Canada loldougie
Creates a bad environment where people will just work harder to make sure there is no evidence. Getting away with this shit is just going to be easier as people learn ESIC's methods lol
2021-08-27 16:25
prove that they asked. The thing is when you say the other team demanded without proof you can fuck other teams by giving them access to their files even they dunno about it. If you punish them anyway
2021-08-27 12:13
4 replies
#197
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Slovakia Daev0n
They should look for a link then. If they find it, punish them. If they don't then kudos to Astralis.
2021-08-27 12:30
3 replies
That is literally what they did. It's stated out in the open in the article. They made a forensic IT analysis and concluded that the recipient (Astralis, if that really WAS the team. No one knows still) did not open the alleged files.
2021-08-27 12:41
2 replies
#218
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Slovakia Daev0n
They might not have opened it. But did they (or him, if it's just an individual) ask for the files?
2021-08-27 12:44
1 reply
In your original post, you jumped the gun and stated that the team should be punished. But why should a team be punished for getting sent something? The coaches may have had sparring, but if they were sent disclaimed material and decided to not open it, then a punishment would be plain foolish. And no, no one can answer your question of whether they asked for it or not.
2021-08-27 14:15
deserved
2021-08-27 11:39
0/8 The worst snake and person in the whole scene getting banned for his actions. I call that a pretty deserved decidion.
2021-08-27 12:09
1 reply
+1
2021-08-27 12:29
right lifetime ban is deserved
2021-08-27 12:14
#195
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Europe DoktorEgg
It does seem questionable. Kind of suspect that what actually upset Heroic and caused them ask ESIC to throw the book at him was that he was planning to defect to Astralis rather than the information sharing per se. Getting a two year ban for not breaking any explicit rule but allegedly bringing the game into disrepute seems harsh when any damage to the game's reputation was very much dependant on how Heroic choose to frame his actions.
2021-08-27 12:28
deserved
2021-08-27 13:54
true. he probable should be fined as well and be shamed much more!
2021-08-27 15:50
#2
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New Zealand SkirmishX
L
2021-08-27 11:01
11 replies
L
2021-08-27 11:02
9 replies
L
2021-08-27 11:04
8 replies
Runs dead
2021-08-27 11:09
7 replies
#50
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Australia flashi
L
2021-08-27 11:15
4 replies
L
2021-08-27 11:23
3 replies
L
2021-08-27 14:59
2 replies
L
2021-08-27 15:46
1 reply
#311
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Finland ELEKTRI
L
2021-08-27 16:42
IT IS MILLIONS TO ONE!
2021-08-27 11:22
esic ban any% category getting really competitive lmao
2021-08-27 15:49
nerd
2021-08-27 13:31
#3
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France Loutcho_Q
Deserved
2021-08-27 11:01
6 replies
+1
2021-08-27 11:04
5 replies
+1111
2021-08-27 11:44
4 replies
+1111111
2021-08-27 12:10
3 replies
#183
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Germany aL1337
+111111111111
2021-08-27 12:15
2 replies
+11111111111111111
2021-08-27 15:45
1 reply
+11111111111111111111111111111
2021-08-27 15:46
HAH
2021-08-27 11:01
Not enough. Permaban plz.
2021-08-27 11:02
13 replies
+1
2021-08-27 11:15
This is enough to ruin his career already
2021-08-27 11:18
10 replies
#78
JoJo | 
Belarus Kerk
I honestly dont see him having a future in esports with him already being convicted of unfair coaching
2021-08-27 11:24
2 replies
after that he also got a team but this is probably the nail in the coffin, people do have a short memory span in esport so you never know
2021-08-27 11:29
1 reply
maybe he will get an analyst spot somewhere
2021-08-27 11:39
Not permanently. Even tho he cheated with the coach bug there was still organisations willing to employ him, including Heroic and apparently also Astralis.
2021-08-27 12:49
6 replies
i doubt he will recover from this blow
2021-08-27 12:56
5 replies
And honestly, which teams will trust him ? I hate losing players and the scene is not going well, but this guy is not helping it. So, good bye, we will remember you as a cheater and a opportunist.
2021-08-27 13:00
4 replies
and a good igl who helped upcoming players in the Danish scene....
2021-08-27 13:04
3 replies
The last 2 years was sh**. Heroic should never give him back his job. He cheated like yesterday. The guy is greed and not good business wise. Heroic are not good either. Honestly, you cannot denied his talent, but he is acting like a child which hurt the cs community.
2021-08-27 13:23
2 replies
still :( i will miss him
2021-08-27 13:26
1 reply
Valve and esic have the fault too. Cheating is not their priorities. Coacb bug was well known.
2021-08-27 14:16
+1 that would be like double life sentence
2021-08-27 12:11
#9
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United Kingdom Tnk11
Nice
2021-08-27 11:02
#10
flusha | 
Sweden GabM
HUNDEN is dog in scandinavian fits pretty well
2021-08-27 11:02
1 reply
Dogs are genuine and faithful. Fits only in ironic context, like calling tall guy little.
2021-08-27 12:15
2 year? who will hire this freak anyway. just ban for life
2021-08-27 11:02
#12
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Brazil guhzzz
LOL
2021-08-27 11:02
#13
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Poland xMBTx
ez 4 GOD HUNDEN
2021-08-27 11:02
KEKW
2021-08-27 11:02
#17
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United Kingdom tr@c
Sit
2021-08-27 11:03
#19
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Turkey w0lix
kekW puhahahahahahahahahahaha
2021-08-27 11:04
#21
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Romania j4mb1
few years
2021-08-27 11:04
#23
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Australia jd4ddy
I think this is worse then matchfixing, Hunden threw more than a game, he threw a whole event
2021-08-27 11:04
2 replies
#155
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Sweden sn1pie
He threw his career
2021-08-27 12:04
1 reply
+1
2021-08-27 14:37
Hunden go work as mechanic plz
2021-08-27 11:04
4 replies
#158
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Sweden sn1pie
He could be good at making cams
2021-08-27 12:04
1 reply
or playing valorant as a cypher
2021-08-27 13:04
Would fare better as a car salesman with his skillset
2021-08-27 19:10
1 reply
+1 the sleazy bastard
2021-08-28 08:36
cya dog and never comeback also if the players knew fuck them also
2021-08-27 11:06
Undeserved. He should leak all of heroic strats as a big middle finger to them before leaving the scene.
2021-08-27 11:07
5 replies
yeah, that would make him come off as a much better person. xaxaxaxa))
2021-08-27 11:21
so he will never ever get a job ? how old are u?
2021-08-27 11:23
3 replies
there are jobs outside of esports
2021-08-27 12:10
2 replies
yes, but its a big rat move and if u google his name, u will only see shit on the internet
2021-08-27 12:12
#297
Sosa | 
Netherlands bezem
People who commit fraud and pull off shit like HUNDEN did are by far the least likely to get hired by serious companies.
2021-08-27 15:51
#28
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Denmark Jonasnhj
Well. That sucks
2021-08-27 11:07
Some things just don't change. Deserved.
2021-08-27 11:07
Deserved Shame on this guy
2021-08-27 11:08
#31
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Italy Tab0
Fully deserved
2021-08-27 11:08
Yeah, definitely not gonna miss that guy
2021-08-27 11:08
Although I feel really bad for him, this ban seems to be deserved for what he's done
2021-08-27 11:09
3 replies
#300
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Indonesia FinZzz
Why feel bad for someone who shows no respect to his teammates and himself?
2021-08-27 16:16
2 replies
I used to like him in the past from his player's career
2021-08-27 20:47
1 reply
#344
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Indonesia FinZzz
Ok cool
2021-08-28 02:55
#36
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Canada Uematsu
deserved
2021-08-27 11:10
oh valorant here we go. the retirement home of cs players/coaches
2021-08-27 11:10
4 replies
I doubt that even Valorant teams want him anymore after he showed his true nature.
2021-08-27 11:50
3 replies
#164
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Germany N4ime
There are players who signed to TSM, FaZe and T1 so everything is possible
2021-08-27 12:08
#255
ptr | 
Albania WokeUp
there are ex-cheaters and matchfixers in valorant
2021-08-27 13:43
1 reply
#287
ptr | 
Albania WokeUp
and I don't mean the banned ones
2021-08-27 15:33
CSGO might be dead by the time the ban is over! HAHAHAH
2021-08-27 11:11
Turns out he wasnt just shit at the game, but also as an competitor
2021-08-27 11:11
bye bye!
2021-08-27 11:11
EZ 4 GOD HUNDEN
2021-08-27 11:12
1 reply
HARD 4 DOG HUNDEN
2021-08-27 11:14
#45
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Portugal dracø
pretty much a perma ban imo, no serious org will touch him after then ban ends
2021-08-27 11:13
#47
allu | 
China JUNlOR
LETS GOOO!
2021-08-27 11:14
ban him for life ffs
2021-08-27 11:15
deserved
2021-08-27 11:17
Hunden :(
2021-08-27 11:17
now we should wait for a ban of whole roster of heroic. That would be deserved as well. Snakes
2021-08-27 11:17
3 replies
That cannot ever happen
2021-08-27 11:33
2 replies
core players can be banned lmao
2021-08-27 12:58
1 reply
Well, lets see what happens lmao
2021-08-27 16:09
#57
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France Loutcho_Q
Shame on Astralis for using the strat book of Heroic ?
2021-08-27 11:18
12 replies
" Although ESIC found that the information in question had not been accessed by the recipient after a forensic IT report was conducted by an independent firm "
2021-08-27 11:18
1 reply
#314
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France Loutcho_Q
ok thanks
2021-08-27 16:49
Shame on you for not reading (or simply not understanding) ?
2021-08-27 11:39
5 replies
#313
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France Loutcho_Q
i bought the 2021 jersey of Astralis, just received yesterday, it was just a question
2021-08-27 16:49
4 replies
It was literally answered in the article.
2021-08-27 16:50
3 replies
#332
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France Loutcho_Q
No time to read i have to buy jerseys
2021-08-27 19:49
2 replies
2021-08-27 21:33
1 reply
#340
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France Loutcho_Q
2021-08-27 22:01
2021-08-27 12:01
Shut the fuck up bitch. Read the whole article and use your mind (if you have) before commenting something.
2021-08-27 14:42
2 replies
#312
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France Loutcho_Q
stfu i bought the 2021 jersey of Astralis, just received yesterday, it was just a question
2021-08-27 16:48
1 reply
Oh! I am sorry I didn't looked the question mark at the end. I was already reading so many shit comments thats why I got pissed by yours. Sorry :(
2021-08-28 07:28
Biggest bot ingame, failed coach and now also a cheater...lmao next level loser
2021-08-27 11:18
GeeGee
2021-08-27 11:18
bye cheater
2021-08-27 11:18
#64
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Australia B_Tannen
Don’t come back to CS.
2021-08-27 11:19
Get shit on
2021-08-27 11:19
Valorant beckons.
2021-08-27 11:20
what a shit show
2021-08-27 11:20
Aaaaaaaand his career is over. Time to go work at McDonald's. I also think astralis is a very rich team so they bribed esic to say to people that no one opened the file
2021-08-27 11:21
14 replies
not really T2-t3 teams will be begging hunden to join them.
2021-08-27 11:24
7 replies
Maybe t9-t10.
2021-08-27 11:35
6 replies
you really dont know the scene do you
2021-08-27 11:37
5 replies
I do know the scene. You really don't know the scene do you
2021-08-27 11:37
4 replies
t1 orgs sign convicted cheaters. u really think a t2 team wont get hunden? lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
2021-08-27 11:39
3 replies
T2 teams won't take convicted traitors
2021-08-27 11:41
2 replies
ur braindead. hunden is one of the best coaches available. all this drama doesnt matter to t2-t3. if anything, it will bring more traffic to the org. they dont car.
2021-08-27 11:43
1 reply
No one wants a betrayer in the team
2021-08-27 12:12
Dont be stupid
2021-08-27 11:38
5 replies
Which part of that was stupid?
2021-08-27 11:39
4 replies
Close to everything you wrote
2021-08-27 11:42
3 replies
Be specific
2021-08-27 11:53
2 replies
'Time to go work at McDonald's. I also think astralis is a very rich team so they bribed esic to say to people that no one opened the file'
2021-08-27 12:05
1 reply
So what did you find stupid about it
2021-08-27 12:12
LMAO
2021-08-27 11:21
Valorant time Hunden !
2021-08-27 11:23
Bye, deserved.
2021-08-27 11:24
#81
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Korea jin67300
cya
2021-08-27 11:25
remember when everyone loved this guy lol
2021-08-27 11:27
#84
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Denmark Daweh
F in chat. What a shitshow :D I cannot believe how many bad moves Heroic/Hunden have made in the last year. I love it.
2021-08-27 11:28
1 reply
F
2021-08-27 11:39
DOG HUNDEN CYA IN 2
2021-08-27 11:30
This tells a lot about heroic and their fans. Cheating is perfectly fine but then again heroic seems like one of those teams that would use every chance to win. Just look at their fans lmao
2021-08-27 11:32
1 reply
#355
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Denmark Daweh
hey hey hey....
2021-08-30 10:51
#88
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Russia zhban001
Hunden die! Get out please! Welcome to Valorant
2021-08-27 11:32
#89
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United Kingdom DB_R20
only 2 years, what the fuck ESIC is a joke.
2021-08-27 11:33
9 replies
enough to ruin his carrer
2021-08-27 11:34
8 replies
#96
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United Kingdom DB_R20
nah I dont think so
2021-08-27 11:34
7 replies
2 years in esports is a long time, he's done
2021-08-27 11:37
6 replies
#105
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United Kingdom DB_R20
this is after he already had a 6 month ban. it should be lifetime ban mens.
2021-08-27 11:38
1 reply
yeah i agree with that
2021-08-27 12:14
You're like the 7th person in this topic alone I've seen that has seemed to forget just how many orgs kept their banned coaches and how many regions are filled with match fixers with no morals anyway There will always be a team considering it
2021-08-27 12:00
3 replies
who kept them? hard legion comes to mind -> scumbag org mouz removed reijin guerri was somewhat innocent so i can understand why furia kept him dont remember others right now tbh
2021-08-27 12:16
2 replies
Faze kept RobbaN, because it was only for one round and they lost that map 16-0 against Astralis, with him claiming that he didn't talk during the round that the bug was happening and he told the admin. So the bans were a bit of a joke, comparing to other people who abused on purpose.
2021-08-27 12:27
1 reply
yeah this one is understandable as well i mean you dont lose 16-0 if you have info on the enemy
2021-08-27 12:43
cya in valo
2021-08-27 11:33
deserved, fcking dog
2021-08-27 11:33
#95
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Poland Yomenik
deserved
2021-08-27 11:34
"ESIC stated that HUNDEN was offered the opportunity to respond to their decision on multiple occasions, but "failed to provide [them] with any reply of substance relevant to the charge made against him."" ahahaha this guy just keeps on lying. hope this is the last time i read of this idiot on hltv. goodbye cheater/traitor/snake
2021-08-27 11:36
2 replies
Interviewing him on the 19th of august does not make any sense. He should've been contacted and interviewed as soon as the investigation started. "inviting him to respond on more than one occasion to ESIC’s intended charge ahead of the publication of any release." They had already decided what they're gonna charge him with at that point. Them also finalizing the investigation on the 21st seems to support this. "ESIC has finalised its investigative lines of enquiry relating to Mr. Petersen's behaviour and has compiled evidence relating to the matter which it intends to issue a public statement at 10:00AM CET on 25 August 2021."
2021-08-27 11:54
#179
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Spain venztical
+1
2021-08-27 12:14
ESIC_IS_SHIT HUNDEN_DID_NOTHING_WRONG
2021-08-27 11:38
did Astralis ask Hunden to show them parts of his stratbook? Did he need to show proof of work as part of the assessment? Shouldn't we investigate Astralis as well? Oh wait this site is owned by Nicholaj Nyholm, owner of Astralis, so I guess not.
2021-08-27 11:40
4 replies
#118
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Finland Teukkasd
yeah its rigged
2021-08-27 11:41
The statement about Nyholm owning HLTV is very far from the truth. Details here if you are curious: hltv.org/disclosure
2021-08-27 12:31
1 reply
ok I believe you
2021-08-27 12:47
+1
2021-08-27 13:57
#113
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Poland xmacu1
deserved
2021-08-27 11:40
Yeah and danish rats who played for his team and were aware of a coaching bug won’t be banned F esic
2021-08-27 11:40
#115
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Finland Teukkasd
hunden will become valorant coach
2021-08-27 11:40
you should ban him for life
2021-08-27 11:40
#122
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Albania Ziu
deserved
2021-08-27 11:42
#126
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Finland OttoRocks
EISC is a joke, I mean not like ha-ha joke, but as in how funny cancer is and its pretty hilarious... and not hilarious like putting a smile on you face, but like you would put chemotherapy in your veins
2021-08-27 11:44
CHEAT GOD HUNDEN Pog
2021-08-27 11:44
#129
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Estonia FrispeN
ESIC is not very professional with the way they handle situations so I hope they don't have any say in the future of eSports.
2021-08-27 11:45
14 replies
what did they do wrong according to youi?
2021-08-27 11:48
13 replies
#148
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Estonia FrispeN
It's a contractual matter where ESIC should not be involved. What next? ESIC will ban Perfecto for 2 years because he lurked D2 B sited instead rotating to A stairs? It's something the court should handle and find out not ESIC and rule somebody out for their carreer options.
2021-08-27 11:59
2 replies
why should they not be involved when he is damaging the integrity of esport? this is not only impacting heroic but also other orgs/teams.
2021-08-27 12:01
It is a matter for ESIC cuz ESL is part of ESIC. So first take from you is wrong. Second is there is no court for ESIC matters. They get the mission by the TO do investigate and give a "punishment" when necessary. IF TO stay with it it is their own decision. Watch at Akuma ESL ignored the warning and recommendation from ESIC. So at least your critics about ESIC are wrong because your knowledge from the start is wrong.
2021-08-27 12:18
#160
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Finland OttoRocks
How is it that no other party is not investigated? You have to leak the documents to someone are they NOT AT ALL involved? No transparency just boomers larping lawyers and judges at the same time.
2021-08-27 12:05
9 replies
??? they have real layers, remember hltv confirmed xd also they might not have proof, you can send them an email asking
2021-08-27 12:07
7 replies
#180
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Finland OttoRocks
If they were lawyers they would see the conflict of interest in the way they are at same time investigators and prosecutors, with no representation for alleged guilty party. Thats why cops dont prosecute they just present the evidence (unless u live in burgerland where cops shoot onsite)
2021-08-27 12:14
6 replies
This is no criminal law. This is all civil rights law. So your argument is lost.
2021-08-27 12:20
5 replies
#257
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Finland OttoRocks
Civil rights law... outside of court... without defence of judge... and ESIC can just decide which party are defendant and which party is plaintiff, are you have the stupid
2021-08-27 13:49
4 replies
Twitch or Twitter can ban you without any question as well. Learn the law and don't start to argue about things that are the reality.
2021-08-27 13:51
3 replies
#265
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Finland OttoRocks
Twich or Twitter are not claiming to be the body that promotes and facilitates competitive integrity in esports, your argument is comparing ESIC to twitter and twich, now I know you are have the stupid
2021-08-27 14:04
2 replies
Any of these companies claim to be sth. Twitch you get banned for swearing but naked ass no problem. You are stupid I don't even try it. You set esic equal to criminal law but it is civil law. Same goes for valve when they gave lifetime bans. And you still cry like a little bitch. Is Hunden your daddy or what? Face the reality or shut up
2021-08-27 15:37
1 reply
#309
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Finland OttoRocks
Twitch has been sued (and won) for damages in many occasions and you are somehow confusing civil law to terms and conditions, but by all means keep talking your stupidity seems to be endless and its fascinating. Are you able to get dressed in the morning or have you got people to help you with that? The reality what you are protraying don't exist.
2021-08-27 16:33
As far as I know, they said he sent the link with docs to another team but the other team didn't opened the message. No idea how they demonstrated that, but that's what ESIC said. Btw, since there was no advantage for the other team, I don't know until which point he could be proven guilty, because although he send the material and he had the intention, nobody took profit from it, so it should be a low penalty.
2021-08-27 12:34
#130
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France LorisDF
f
2021-08-27 11:46
#132
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African Union axemin
Deserved. Bye bye hund
2021-08-27 11:47
Only 2 years? Wtf
2021-08-27 11:47
he really fucked himself
2021-08-27 11:49
#136
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Australia WreveAU
HUNDEN will just go to Valorant with all of the other cheating and matchfixing scum. I'm sure ESIC will investigate the Heroic players when they finish with the MDL shit... so never
2021-08-27 11:49
Well, there you go then... Goodbye HUNDEN and I wish you all the very best in whatever you decide to do with your future.
2021-08-27 11:49
Fking rat and cheater, deserved
2021-08-27 11:53
its sad how much this guy has fucked up. he have given alot to the danish scene and could give so much more. why is he so fucked in the head? ;(
2021-08-27 11:53
What bout the players tho.. if they knew want em banned too by No means against this punishment but think the players should be checked too then
2021-08-27 11:54
cya never
2021-08-27 11:55
Should be pretty much game over for Hunden. He showed that he can't be trusted, no matter how much support you give him. Can't see any org be so desperate to hire a coach they can't fully trust.
2021-08-27 11:57
#152
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Denmark Randomij
He'll be back, just like a virus...
2021-08-27 12:01
come on Hunden , you got enough balls to call them out , go another mile and public the evidence , expose the team and the org. You got nothing to lose anymore!
2021-08-27 12:03
6 replies
Edit : Pimp is mad on his stream atm, says the evidence has got him disappointed cause reviewing it , he knows that the players as well as Heroic did knew about it lmao Heroic are fucked , please someone make it fucking public i am desperate to see it!
2021-08-27 12:25
5 replies
So.. you really think there is a single player or a single team that was not aware that their coaches were expoiting the bug? Really?? LMAO
2021-08-27 12:32
+1 Heroic cya in 10.
2021-08-27 13:11
1 reply
kkkkkkk
2021-08-27 13:11
I will set Pimp/hunden as a flair for real if they will reveal the names. Cadian is among them for sure but the rest is a big question mark.
2021-08-27 13:17
1 reply
+1 i dont use a flair but whoever reveals it , gets to be my flair too for some time.
2021-08-27 13:19
#156
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United States Cheerios
Why is Hunden the only one getting a ban? Tops of tier 1 teams coaches was doing this. They just need someone for a scapegoat instead of banning them all and ruining the entire scene.
2021-08-27 12:04
2 replies
cus heroic is the only team who aren't willing to protect their coach. Other teams are pretty loyal especially if this thing happen to astralis
2021-08-27 17:30
1 reply
#322
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United States Cheerios
Pretty sad, there's a bunch of top tier teams who did this. Also Astralis wasn't involved in this, they are one of the teams that tried telling them about the bug and it was ignored.
2021-08-27 18:08
HUNDEN TTours in valorant PogChamp
2021-08-27 12:04
Deserved. lost all respect to heroic and its snake players too. will never take any title they won seriously. all snake action.
2021-08-27 12:04
1 reply
+11111 remember cologne 2020, Heroic won. HUNDEN banned two days after final. THAT is very suspicious.......
2021-08-27 13:59
Deserved
2021-08-27 12:07
#166
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Sweden Akoulad
Ban heroic too
2021-08-27 12:09
So HUNDEN applied a job to Astralis, sent his antistrats to them on Google drive Astralis rats HUNDEN to ESIC HUNDEN banned Astralis fucked HEROIC
2021-08-27 12:12
1 reply
what? heroic inst banned?
2021-08-27 12:21
Hey HUNDEN, just use cheats next time, you have nothing to lose now...
2021-08-27 12:13
nice one HuNdEN
2021-08-27 12:19
They have their scapegoat now. Integrity and Esports, what a joke.
2021-08-27 12:20
This doesn't clear anything up though, did he give Astralis information about Heroic strats to try and bribe his way into the coaching position or did he give information about Heroic strats as a demonstration of the sort of strats he would use as Astralis' coach? One is malicious and should be harshly punished, the other is just paperwork semantic bullshit because as soon as he signed with Astralis they would have full access to all the strats he came up with anyway.
2021-08-27 12:24
5 replies
yea the context is very much important in this case. One isnt that big of an offense that would warrant such harsh punishment while the other demands more than what he got. Guess we will never know since the actual party to whom the info was shared isnt being named either (it can be concluded but , its no definite)
2021-08-27 12:27
I'm sorry... "Doesn't clear anything"?? QTE: Mr. Petersen did, in fact (and by his own admission), send information to the opposing team that, at the very least, included information such as anti-strategy materials relating to Heroic’s opponents as well as other sensitive and potentially useful (to an opponent) information; QTE: a public statement made by Mr. Petersen on 28 July 2021 via his Twitter account in which he states… “The material I have shared is anti-strat material of opponents…” amounts to an admission of Mr. Petersen’s conduct in perpetrating the Incident and corroborates ESIC’s observations making ESIC’s charge a self-evident matter. Honestly, how much more is necessary?
2021-08-27 12:39
2 replies
Because we need to know the intent behind what he did and what extent the "anti-strategy materials" were detailed. For example it's clear he was in talks to Astralis to be their new coach, someone at Astralis would obviously ask him the question "What areas of our play do you believe you can improve?" if he then responded and said "I've already identified many areas of weakness of your team and have implemented anti-strategies against your weaknesses", he could have then sent over one or two of the anti-strategies as examples he created for Heroics use against Astralis to prove his claim. With the answers we have from this investigation this exact scenario could have been exactly what happened, there would be no malicious intent behind Hundens actions and instead would be like i said paperwork semantic bullshit since if he was signed with Astralis they would have full access to his knowledge of the anti-strat material. We need to know if his actions were intentionally malicious or if it was just a silly mistake by sending over a small amount of information thinking it wouldn't be a big deal.
2021-08-27 14:57
1 reply
I absolutey not agree with you and we have different readings for the same matter. While you are appealing to "intent" and to "malicious" presiding to ESIC decisions, I read that those decisions are all about ethics and sportmanship, values that must be held while you are under contract. If this guy didn't understand what was at stake, he must have all his values mistaken which, having in mind is age and experience, I refuse to believe. From my last statement I guess you have enough food for thought and to clear your doubts about "malicious intent". Todays tweets from Ropz and JW reply to that same tweet may also clear your doubts... Anyway, thanks for your answer and I can now relate with what was in your mind.
2021-08-27 15:18
This is the translated version of the Hunden's interview after the incident. Should be what you looking for pastebin.com/bNayCe9v
2021-08-28 01:56
Why not permaban? Waiting for a 3rd scandal? He did not change the first time around you think he will change the 2nd time? Blocking access to Heroic's Stratbook well that's company property which he has taken as his hostage. Heroic should have kicked the snake the first time itself.
2021-08-27 12:35
2 replies
+1
2021-08-27 12:42
#323
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United States Cheerios
+10000000000000000000000000000
2021-08-27 18:08
I have both football and tennis coaching qualifications and talking to other coaches to learn and grow is part of the philosophy of coaching. Sharing drills, formations and strategy is part of a coaches identity, it is how a coaching community grows. Are ESIC suggesting that no coach should ever discuss CSGO tactically on screen again? Are ESL going to ban coaches from discussing their tactics, strat or anit-strat, post match? Will ex-coaches be banned from using skybox to expose teams strats as it could compromise the organisations strategy book?? I think not. This all seems rather poorly thought out especially as there is no evidence that anyone gained anything at all from this. I think this may well have been Heroics way of terminating a contract without having to pay off any of the remaining months left on it..... I can't wait to see Hunden doing CSGO strategy streams on twitch et al where he dissects each teams main strats per map and then offers anti-strats to them... Would be the ultimate middle finger to CSGO before deciding what to do next.
2021-08-27 12:37
Cyaaaaaa
2021-08-27 12:38
#210
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Italy Skye620
Got off light. Should of been permabanned
2021-08-27 12:40
This guy gained and lost his reputation in a short amount of time
2021-08-27 12:41
#213
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Indonesia tldr))
Cya in 10 Oh wait..
2021-08-27 12:41
hunden jailbird
2021-08-27 12:41
ban him for life
2021-08-27 12:42
comeback stronger hunden
2021-08-27 12:45
ESIC kicked hunden
2021-08-27 12:48
Like.. what does it take to get someone permanently banned? Do they have to fart on an ESIC members cornflakes?
2021-08-27 12:51
#230
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Netherlands Sem0733
Should never be hired again. Snake.
2021-08-27 12:52
1 reply
Astralis waits two years and then Major win with HUNDEN KEKWKEKWKEKW
2021-08-27 13:57
such a low life
2021-08-27 12:52
Shit like this makes cs look like one big joke.
2021-08-27 12:55
1 reply
+11111111
2021-08-27 13:55
Kinda funny how he is being caught in cheating in dif things when he was so fast at calling other ppl for cheaters in his css days.
2021-08-27 13:03
"In an addendum, ESIC added that allegations made by HUNDEN in regards to ESIC's conduct of the investigation, specifically in his claim that the group had chosen to "not hear [him] out" and that he was threatened with a longer ban in case of an appeal, are false." Hunden cya in 2. "the coach has changed his story, now saying that some of his teammates at the time had been aware of his abuse of the bug. Jacob "⁠Pimp⁠" Winneche, who had the chance to review documents submitted to TV2.dk that seem to support HUNDEN's claims, has stated that he believes it is "highly probable that [HUNDEN] is telling the truth."" Heroic cya in 10.
2021-08-27 13:05
Wtf ban for 2? Ban for life is needed
2021-08-27 13:06
1 reply
The sentence is a formality,he wouldn't get hired again anyways
2021-08-27 13:37
deserved Absolute asshole
2021-08-27 13:16
#247
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Sweden skick4d
get rekt
2021-08-27 13:24
He is stupider than a GOOSE
2021-08-27 13:27
2 scandals under his name = 2 years ban... Does Integrity and Esports mean so little to ESIC? Permaban was the minimum expected for such a poor excuse of a human being!!
2021-08-27 13:40
#254
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Korea Shazil
can someone please explain what he did in simple english to me. i am confused after reading this
2021-08-27 13:41
3 replies
He has shared Heroic's strats to other teams.
2021-08-27 13:49
1 reply
#279
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Korea Shazil
ty
2021-08-27 15:03
While his contract with Heroic was running out in December and he was about to sign for Astralis. He gave them (someone in Astralis) access to heroic's antistrat information and did not inform anyone in Heroic of that. Tldr
2021-08-27 15:21
WTF this guy, ban him for life ffs. #BANHUNDEN4LIFE
2021-08-27 13:54
2 replies
Everybody makes mistakes and everybody deserves a second chance.
2021-08-27 18:27
1 reply
hahahhahahahahah, u mean a third chance.....?
2021-08-27 18:36
Going on a vacation he must of been really sad doing that
2021-08-27 14:30
get rekt bitch
2021-08-27 14:52
no Astralis HUNDEN :(
2021-08-27 14:56
rat
2021-08-27 15:12
Deserved
2021-08-27 15:15
so hunden is hunden after all deserved
2021-08-27 15:20
#285
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Brazil ztxizhan
#FREEHUNDEN
2021-08-27 15:31
was a meme in his playing career was a meme during his coaching career what next for Hunden?
2021-08-27 15:32
What a fall(((
2021-08-27 15:49
Ruined it all for himself, what a shame. "I am convinced that ESIC and the rest of the world will see this for what it is: Nicolai Petersen failed his teammates by cheating, he failed them by sharing confidential and sensitive information with a major competitor, and now he is failing them a third time by trying to blame them for his deeds." hltv.org/news/32238/hunden-implicates-te..
2021-08-27 15:57
oh god
2021-08-27 16:16
Good riddance. He proved to have no integrity in these two matters.
2021-08-27 16:28
bye bye
2021-08-27 16:31
big L
2021-08-27 16:35
ESIC : "engaging in behaviour that threatened harm to the reputation and competitive integrity of esports." BEST BULLSHIT FROM ESIC IN 2021. REPUTATION AND COMPETITIVE INTEGRITY ESIC ALLOW TIER 2-7 DO MATCH FIXING LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE FCKIN DAY WITHOUT ANY INVESTIGATION TOWARDS THEIR EVENT :D
2021-08-27 17:26
1 reply
Because they don't have the workforce and time to manage that mess. Because as you said, everyone is doing it. Not to mention how much proof you need to just get a single player banned for matchfixing , look at the lengths they had to go to for the recent na match fixing shit to only get 3 players banned . You have no idea what you're talking about
2021-08-27 19:03
#317
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China CantBanMe
Free my boy Hunden , make him president ASAP
2021-08-27 17:28
#319
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Chile cristiaan
deserved
2021-08-27 17:32
#320
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Australia Beard43
Will ESIC also review his initial ban reduction given that he has admitted to deliberate and blatant lies during his 'cooperation' with the organisation during the coach bug investigation? He has stomped the concept of integrity into the ground, doused it in petrol and lit it.
2021-08-27 17:47
hund = dog (in german) i think this is oddly satisfying because its true
2021-08-27 18:02
Throwing his career away just to be a smartass... we have all been there at one point or another, but he had too much to lose, should have known better.
2021-08-27 18:37
deserved
2021-08-27 19:26
#333
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United States SoNftw
Good riddance! Now, let's move on and forget about this repeated cheater!
2021-08-27 20:15
#335
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Russia ToughGuy
so i guess now everyone will forget that players knew about coach bug, huh?
2021-08-27 20:47
Bye!
2021-08-27 20:48
so hunden give info to astralis, i think is clear which team are they talking about, they say no one accessed the google drive doc, but that doesnt mean no one accessed to the info. So lets speculate, someone in astralis got it through telegram, photos, etc, give them to xypn3x, because astralis wanted to sell him for quite a long time now, so lets gives this info to him, so he can have one last good tournament on "LAN" at iem cologne, now they can sell him for a better amount of money, he gets benched and in the process beat the danish counterpart. after that i woke up from this crazy delusional dream, but hey, at least i didnt dream about the earth being flat. but anyway, shouldn't astralis be investigated for trying or having this wish or desire to get this info?
2021-08-27 21:19
1 reply
You're right about the Google Drive thing. Hunden could have shared the info in a million other ways. Personally, I don't really think Astralis used it, but I honestly wouldn't have blamed them if they did. Also you're not dreaming big enough for your speculation. Here's my speculative take: Astralis engineered this whole thing to weaken Heroic.)))))))))))
2021-08-27 22:03
#342
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United States Phamous3k
Lol... New Valorant player otw lol
2021-08-27 23:49
2year ban is cruel when he is 50years old already......
2021-08-28 07:38
I defended him after the bug thing.... But this! Too much, man. He is really showing himself to be a giant cunt.
2021-08-28 08:38
Do they really want to us believe that the "recipient" really didn't recebe those anti-strats? (lul). And If It was Astralis maybe that was a reason that made device jump to another ship and saying all those things. Or maybe I'm wrong, but who knows...
2021-08-28 11:06
#351
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Iraq DuncanAK
Can someone link me the Code of Conduct of ESIC Or where can i find it ???????!!!!!!!
2021-08-28 11:37
1 reply
Just google "Code of Conduct of ESIC" it's the first result
2021-08-28 16:18
#354
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Australia phandalis
you know where to go
2021-08-30 08:22
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