HUNDEN releases evidence implicating former teammates in coaching bug abuse*

An excerpt from a server log involving René "⁠TeSeS⁠" Madsen and a snippet of a sensitive conversation between Nicolai "⁠HUNDEN⁠" Petersen and Nikolaj "⁠niko⁠" Kristensen have been released into the public.

Update: The story has been updated to include another comment from the referee who reviewed the logs, who said that the position in question was reachable without help and that HUNDEN did not know that.

In the latest installment of TV2.dk's releases of statements made by HUNDEN, the 30-year-old has revealed evidence that seems to support his claims that some of his Heroic teammates from the time he exploited the coaching bug were aware of what he was doing.

One part of the evidence released quotes a conversation between HUNDEN and niko, in which the latter is stated to have implicated that not just some but all players of the roster were aware of what was going on by saying: "Everyone on our team knew it. Maybe not the first time. But after. Everyone knew that."

At the time of the two matches in which HUNDEN used the bug, the Heroic roster boasted TeSeS, niko, Casper "⁠cadiaN⁠" Møller, Martin "⁠stavn⁠" Lund, and Johannes "⁠b0RUP⁠" Borup.

niko has been quoted as saying that everyone knew of HUNDEN's use of the coaching bug

Another part of the material involves server logs from the second of two May 2020 matches in which HUNDEN used the coaching bug, on Dust2 against Spirit in Home Sweet Home 5. The data in the logs reportedly imply TeSeS helped HUNDEN get into the position in which the coach was then bugged ahead of the start of the map and from which he viewed the map for the first 12 rounds.

HUNDEN is claiming the position would only be reachable with the help of another player, who could only be TeSeS at the time according to the logs, as the 20-year-old was the only other player on the server when the coaching bug was triggered. The logs were reportedly reviewed by "one of the world's leading referees" who has "in-depth knowledge of the coaching bug," who stated that HUNDEN's explanation of the logs "definitely makes sense when you look at the matter."

The referee in question clarified that it is possible to reach that position without help but also said that HUNDEN did not know it.

HUNDEN has said that this evidence, along with other material in his possession, has been referred to ESIC, who will then be expected to make a decision on whether or not to investigate the matter further and pursue action against the players.

Heroic CEO Joachim Haraldsen responded to the allegations to TV2 after being presented with the conversation between niko and HUNDEN. "I have honestly had enough of HUNDEN's attacks on all the boys he has coached. I think he should start growing up and take responsibility for what he did," Haraldsen said.

"He [HUNDEN] has told TV 2 that he would submit his documentation to ESIC. So far we have not seen anything. We will certainly help ESIC with all the material they may need from us, but we no longer want to enter into a public discussion about accusations that "someone" knew "something" when it is based solely on isolated fragments of information without any context. This is not the way to prove or disprove anything."

Denmark Martin 'stavn' Lund
Martin 'stavn' Lund
Age:
19
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
989
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.68
Denmark René 'TeSeS' Madsen
René 'TeSeS' Madsen
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
696
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.67
Denmark Nicolai 'HUNDEN' Petersen
Nicolai 'HUNDEN' Petersen
Age:
30
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.81
Maps played:
1578
KPR:
0.55
DPR:
0.70
Denmark Johannes 'b0RUP' Borup
Johannes 'b0RUP' Borup
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
1233
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.68
Denmark Nikolaj 'niko' Kristensen
Nikolaj 'niko' Kristensen
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
1148
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.66
Denmark Casper 'cadiaN' Møller
Casper 'cadiaN' Møller
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
1340
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.63
Heroic will pay.
2021-09-03 21:20
18 replies
#213
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Brazil yakd
They should, hunden for sure has showed some lack of awareness and unprofessional behaviour but those things are 2 different matter, especially if he provides evidence. I can certainly undertsand him, since 2 years seem quiet harsh because in theory every coach could replicate the whole strat book once he leaves a team. Hard to say how much is hundens work and how their strategie is tied to the org but he seemed to have been treated pretty badly. Just ban them all, and get it over with. Also ceo statement doesnt help at all, if ya dirty ya dirty
2021-09-03 21:49
17 replies
They should just go and say: "we knew", to avoid any other complications or an extended ban
2021-09-03 21:56
doesnt matter hunden career is over anyway. he just destroys more careers now (deserved tho for cheaters)
2021-09-03 22:18
Actually its probably in theyre contract that they cant release it or they will pay some huge fee. For example my gf signed a contract for her design agency where she works that if she uses any of the designs in her portfolio she will be sued for 10-20k euros even tho she designed them she did it for the firm.
2021-09-03 22:56
11 replies
Thats literally every contract ever in any field.
2021-09-03 23:37
9 replies
Well as you see hunden doesnt care or mby they didint think about it and didint put it in the contract
2021-09-04 08:06
8 replies
They are suing hunden, so its obvious it was in the contract, because its standart practice
2021-09-04 13:13
7 replies
Hope he pays some absurd amount of money so ppl dont do dumb shit like this. Also its very poor that hes trying to drag the players with him what a cunt
2021-09-04 13:18
6 replies
Maybe thats why he even tried to to give heroics secrets to other team in the first place. Everyone was cheating but only hunden got punished and players got cocky and started shitting on him. Just my theory
2021-09-04 16:40
5 replies
lol, imagine if it is true... Than it means he took the blame all on himself, and than when he got banned, and took an L for the team, as soon as he was not usefull to them, they just side kick him... Thats the most cunt move ever... why do you think this is now a topic ? Coach bug is out there for over a year I think... They are suing him... He should fight back, what a piece of little cunts
2021-09-06 18:39
3 replies
Hunden is in the same grade of cunt tho..
2021-09-07 23:13
2 replies
For cheating ? Absolutely, but as it seems, it was not HIM cheating, it was THEY cheating... so he took the bullet for them, and they repayed him with this shit ? Sure man, bring them down with you than
2021-09-07 23:27
1 reply
+1 this guy understands the situation. screw heroic and all of their attempts to completely place all the blame on Hunden and move on
2021-09-10 18:13
That what all cheaters say when they get caught. “Everyone else does it”, same thing with doping in other sports. It’s just poor excuses and a disbelief that others are actually better than you. So you need to make up a narrative in your mind to justify the cheating.
2021-09-06 18:42
+1 it works like this in every kind of work
2021-09-03 23:40
what he did was hugely unprofessional. If this was any other industry, he would be blacklisted permanently. If he is willing to waste the tens of thousands of hours and the hundreds of thousands of euros heroic spent developing and practicing that stratbook (split across analysts, players, management, bootcamps, coaching staff) for something as trivial as a job interview, what would he do if somebody offered him something more substantial than that? his actions reflect poorly on his integrity and how much he values the time and money of his coworkers and employers.
2021-09-04 04:30
2 replies
He is already blacklisted my mate, banned for 2 years and in this scene that means he is done. Now not defending what Hunden did with astralis, but also if my work would throw the book at me id throw the book back
2021-09-04 17:28
1 reply
#691
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Sweden fl0p_
+1
2021-09-04 22:02
Oh shit its on
2021-09-03 21:20
3 replies
"The Dog" of TV2 has released his evidence
2021-09-03 21:37
2 replies
Big Dog eats up
2021-09-03 22:05
#312
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Pakistan red_nx
lmao
2021-09-03 22:07
sad for hunden undeserved
2021-09-03 21:21
1 reply
#129
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United States gweees
It was deserved completely but teses and niko should get temp bans. Hunden is a scumbag and apparently his teammates are too
2021-09-03 21:34
lmao
2021-09-03 21:21
Cheating kids have to pay
2021-09-03 21:21
BAN THESE CHEATERS
2021-09-03 21:21
lol hunden isnt playing around teses bouta get punished
2021-09-03 21:21
1 reply
hopefully they enjoy their careers at mcdonalds now
2021-09-04 18:51
Cool
2021-09-03 21:21
lol
2021-09-03 21:22
hunden did nothing wrong
2021-09-03 21:22
3 replies
#freeHunden he is a victim of a bug as they all are. bad volvo
2021-09-03 23:22
-1
2021-09-03 23:22
#648
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Norway 2kayn
Nice bait
2021-09-04 12:03
#17
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Sweden flippig
Hunden exposing these fools
2021-09-03 21:22
#18
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United States bakkadilla
This is getting juicy.
2021-09-03 21:22
#20
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United States mattgg2015
He is def saying the truth, HEROIC is finished
2021-09-03 21:22
#21
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Czech Republic Ventraks
HAHAAHAH
2021-09-03 21:22
fuck hunden
2021-09-03 21:22
1 reply
#48 +#23
2021-09-03 21:25
Finally, ban these players as well, all of them were aware of it, justice for all, not only for coaches Wp danish kids for destroying your future hopefully
2021-09-03 21:22
"Heroic era"
2021-09-03 21:22
LOL
2021-09-03 21:22
#26
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Ukraine futplxyer
Nice now OG is ruined too xDDDD
2021-09-03 21:22
7 replies
#44
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Europe Ex0dus_
They'll just change one player
2021-09-03 21:24
2 replies
#55
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Ukraine futplxyer
niko is too good a player, anyway he will probably receive the lightest penalty for admitting he knew...
2021-09-03 21:25
1 reply
He didnt admit anything yet, he said it to hunden on personal chat, he didnt admit anything to esic
2021-09-04 21:39
He fits in so well with them though, chemistry will be partially ruined
2021-09-03 21:33
OG RUSH INCOMING BABYYY
2021-09-03 21:43
2 replies
#303
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Switzerland nierg
:O might actually happen. We will see if ESIC decides on a ban or punishment for niko though.
2021-09-03 22:04
#507
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France ayygurl
or xypn9x maybe
2021-09-04 00:38
he is right Sadge
2021-09-03 21:22
oh i thought for sure CadiaN was in on it. RIP oG though with niko lmfao
2021-09-03 21:22
3 replies
wdym in the first sentence?
2021-09-03 21:25
1 reply
If what Hunden said is right, then CadiaN - as the IGL - is also involved because he and the team knew full well that Hunden was using the coaching bug. A lot of people had believed that CadiaN was involved in the bug in one way or another before this whole strat leaking scandal blew up, because there is no way a tier 2 IGL and his team could rise to the top of the world in such a quick and suprising manner.
2021-09-04 10:34
read again-niko and teses are in these materials but they also implicate the whole team knew
2021-09-03 21:34
bye bye heroic
2021-09-03 21:23
Imagine being OG right now
2021-09-03 21:23
6 replies
Sad day to be a OG fan. For once when they play this good, ofcourse something fucks them over.
2021-09-04 00:02
5 replies
well look at the bright side...possible options for niko are xyp9x or RUSH
2021-09-04 00:48
1 reply
Im not so sure about rush tbh but xyp9x would be amazing but he is free after 3 months because his contract should end then.
2021-09-04 00:56
#593
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Israel patchy1
If you have to cut 1 OG player you will choose niko. So at least it's not one of the key players on this team. imo
2021-09-04 07:14
2 replies
True but this will still hurt the team chemistry alot
2021-09-04 08:42
1 reply
#682
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Israel patchy1
yep
2021-09-04 17:11
#31
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Andorra NDRnews
Hunden snitch hahah
2021-09-03 21:23
#32
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United States dexzzz
aweawewaeawe
2021-09-03 21:23
xDD
2021-09-03 21:23
get them gone
2021-09-03 21:23
Hahahahahha
2021-09-03 21:24
#38
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Poland dejmanOOO
hahaha just fking disband heroic and ban them too for 2 years xDDDDDDDDDD
2021-09-03 21:24
#39
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United States arkayS
hahaha
2021-09-03 21:24
#40
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Brazil YUB8
oh snap
2021-09-03 21:24
#41
sh1ro | 
World gto13
Time to ban those Onliners cheaters: CadiaN,teses,stavn etc etc. all cheaters
2021-09-03 21:24
3 replies
CadiaN not involved though
2021-09-03 21:32
2 replies
Of course CadiaN is involved hes the mastermind behind all of this, heroic were a tier2,3 team and all of sudden they were top1 beating everyone? CS:GO has no place to cheaters, i want them all banned and gone. Valorant waits for them
2021-09-03 21:36
1 reply
yeah nevermind i was somehow confused
2021-09-03 21:37
#42
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Poland xMBTx
GOD HUNDEN
2021-09-03 21:24
1 reply
#52
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Sweden flippig
+1
2021-09-03 21:25
rip og
2021-09-03 21:25
RIP heroic cheaters
2021-09-03 21:25
xdddddd
2021-09-03 21:25
#50
towa | 
Estonia rafio
RESPECT GOD HUNDEN
2021-09-03 21:25
SMELL OF BURNING TIRES
2021-09-03 21:25
they should get banned.
2021-09-03 21:25
2 replies
im ashamed for being a fan of them, but now I know this...
2021-09-03 21:57
1 reply
#607
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United States Wafftop
Same here man
2021-09-04 08:43
hunden is just trying to take down whoever he can with him lmfao
2021-09-03 21:25
11 replies
#122
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Finland Teukkasd
yeah this is really getting out of hands
2021-09-03 21:32
Well why shouldnt he? He was willing to take the heat for the bug, has his reputation shred to shit why shouldnt he come out with the truth? Its over for him why shouldnt he take down people who were also responsible
2021-09-03 21:55
2 replies
For sure he was the instigator of the coach bug to begin with..
2021-09-07 23:21
1 reply
doesnt matter. If he has evidence that they both knew and willingly participated why shouldnt he take them down?
2021-09-08 02:02
Well i think its good, if they cheated and he didnt say anything then it would be quite bad for heroic and cs as a whole
2021-09-03 21:56
He gets all the hate while his team knew what he was doing and laughed at him. I'd be pissed if i were hunden
2021-09-03 22:03
4 replies
why not just tell the truth a year ago?
2021-09-03 22:06
3 replies
#394
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Argentina Aleeee
Because he meant to stay in heroic but time changed that
2021-09-03 22:42
cause he was pressuered by heroic and they told him he could still have a spot on the team after the ban ran out
2021-09-03 22:43
Cuz it was all planned with the org on who takes the heat. That's why hunden was retained as an "analyst" after being banned. It was deal hunden, players. the org made with each other.
2021-09-04 00:58
Seems like it
2021-09-04 00:02
People that care more about snitching than people comitting crimes are mentally ill.
2021-09-03 21:25
13 replies
8/8 . BASED
2021-09-03 21:27
+1 even if Hunden isn't a good person himself, he is still clearing the scene from pathetic cheating if he is saying truth
2021-09-03 21:27
6 replies
+1
2021-09-03 21:29
He also cleared the scene from himself :D
2021-09-03 21:58
+1 VilliG tried to do this but nobody believed him hltv.org/news/15863/villig-admits-to-che.. "Don't hate me too much, there are many others that are cheating in this qualifier :)."
2021-09-03 22:00
2 replies
Wow, I admire this guy but Dogden is something else
2021-09-04 02:17
1 reply
Hunden is right tho
2021-09-05 18:09
#513
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Hungary Mitomen20
+1
2021-09-04 00:54
+1000
2021-09-03 21:55
+1
2021-09-03 21:56
#419
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Poland morosek
+1111
2021-09-03 22:59
+1
2021-09-04 01:01
best post
2021-09-04 14:55
expected from danes
2021-09-03 21:25
#60
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United States bomberNTC
lost respect for this snitch
2021-09-03 21:26
24 replies
2021-09-03 21:27
20 replies
#82
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United States bomberNTC
since when is cheating a crime
2021-09-03 21:27
19 replies
Since forever, imo every cheater is a p****
2021-09-03 21:29
Stop smoking trees and open your eyes . Fuck cheaters , they don't respect cs fans , the enemy team , people who bet . They don't deserve the spots on tournaments as well . I hope they get VAC BANNED
2021-09-03 21:30
17 replies
#142
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United States bomberNTC
HUNDEN is 30 years old snitching on his 20 something year old teammates... he should take responsibility instead of trying to take everyone down with him. This guy doesn't care about anything other than making himself look better.
2021-09-03 21:35
16 replies
Did you read the article ?
2021-09-03 21:41
9 replies
#182
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United States bomberNTC
Yes I did, and I don't understand why HUNDEN did this.
2021-09-03 21:42
8 replies
Why would he take the cheating responsability alone if other players actually knew what was happening and contributed on the coach bug
2021-09-03 21:44
7 replies
#195
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United States bomberNTC
He should've taken the fall for his teammates, that's what I would've done.
2021-09-03 21:45
6 replies
That's naive .
2021-09-03 21:47
2 replies
Not really. If he took his punishment right away he might still have a career left. Now this will escalate beyond repair most likely..
2021-09-07 23:26
1 reply
>repair >Cheaters There is punishment then we can think about repairing things . Since when people are defending cheating who don't want to assume their mistake .
2021-09-08 01:39
You would've taken the fall for people who wanted to let you take all the blame while they get away scott free? Sure bro, 4/8 for trying.
2021-09-03 21:54
2 replies
#260
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United States bomberNTC
It's a respect thing dude, I just don't respect snitching in any way.
2021-09-03 21:56
1 reply
Don't sin and you won't have to worry about someone snitching on you. If you're clean it's nothing to get hung about
2021-09-04 01:56
#280
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Sweden crindz
i kinda agree with you. they're obviously a great team, but kids will make stupid mistakes. and this shit could possibly ruin it all for them, and for what? to make hunden look less of a villain?
2021-09-03 22:00
3 replies
>kids will make stupid mistakes you realize these kids are cheating to win money they do not deserve and stealing it from other pros who are legit and hardworking? These kids can get fucked.
2021-09-04 01:07
1 reply
No longer kids when 18+ and playing for money.
2021-09-05 04:07
20yo kids, ok dude
2021-09-04 21:43
#506
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Japan TrungAlex
+1000
2021-09-04 00:33
Both the organization and players did him wrong thou. if you follow this scandal from the beginning you will get why he did it
2021-09-05 00:20
on the real though, imagine doing some bad shit and getting snitched on by fucking HUNDEN I'd be so mad
2021-09-03 21:30
So you want cheaters in the game?
2021-09-03 21:31
Everyone and thier mother would do the same, even you would. One simply doesn't go down on how own
2021-09-04 08:54
#61
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Ukraine futplxyer
btw why do they refer to hunden as "" THE DOG" in the article lmfao ??
2021-09-03 21:26
7 replies
Hunden literally means dog
2021-09-03 21:26
1 reply
#90
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Poland Yomenik
KEKW
2021-09-03 21:28
#95
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Sweden flippig
Hunden means dog in danish and swedish too
2021-09-03 21:28
4 replies
#99
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Ukraine futplxyer
ok lmaooo
2021-09-03 21:29
In german Hund means also dog
2021-09-03 21:55
isnt hund = dog and hunden = the dog
2021-09-04 02:28
1 reply
correct
2021-09-04 08:19
Snitch, Rat, Cheater Welcome to McDonalds
2021-09-03 21:26
2 replies
But who would buy a burger from him?
2021-09-04 00:15
1 reply
he will spit in burgers and laugh
2021-09-04 01:14
AXAXAXAXXAXAAXAXXAAAXAAXAAXAA
2021-09-03 21:26
#64
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Latvia FieryBlood
oh well, +xyp9x it is
2021-09-03 21:26
1 reply
#273
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Romania codybolo
No way xyp goes to og dude keep wishing
2021-09-03 21:59
Pretty sure that he is lying and he is trying to pull out context thing Will ser what happen
2021-09-03 21:26
SNITCHES GET STITCHES
2021-09-03 21:26
#70
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South America AdrianoFer
HEROIC ONLY SHOWUP ONLINE, SO COINCIDENCE.
2021-09-03 21:27
1 reply
+1
2021-09-04 02:48
#72
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India Pranav3112
"Call an ambulance but 'not just' for me" xD
2021-09-03 21:27
he don't stop oml
2021-09-03 21:27
> I have honestly had enough of HUNDEN's attacks on all the boys he has coached. I think he should start growing up and take responsibility for what he did Oooof, he's fucking burning. I hope they all get banned.
2021-09-03 21:27
2 replies
of course he is mad his entire team is fucked xD
2021-09-03 21:33
1 reply
and orgs name is now worse then worthless. Its IBP all over again to be honest but worst
2021-09-03 22:15
HEROIC CHEATS
2021-09-03 21:27
noobwork owns hunden
2021-09-03 21:27
#79
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Austria DrLagAlot
What a snake he is
2021-09-03 21:27
Lmaooo that's some juicy stuff. I dig it.
2021-09-03 21:27
remember when heroic was doing well for 2 months was it during that time they used this cheat?
2021-09-03 21:27
1 reply
Heroic was doing well for much longer than 2 months, and it was even without HUNDEN.
2021-09-03 21:29
#83
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Poland Yomenik
SNAKE
2021-09-03 21:27
Ban all those Heroic players too
2021-09-03 21:27
1 reply
+1
2021-09-04 02:48
Ban these scumbags.
2021-09-03 21:27
Hunden "Two-Faced" Toldeo
2021-09-03 21:28
1 reply
Toldeo xD
2021-09-03 21:47
SNITCH
2021-09-03 21:28
Good, if only the other coaches would also snitch on their players. Get all these cheaters banned. I'm convinced it's more than just Heroic who were aware of the cheating.
2021-09-03 21:28
7 replies
100%
2021-09-03 21:34
+11
2021-09-03 21:53
Entropiq would be fucked lmao
2021-09-03 22:16
4 replies
A significant part of the top 30 was involved, if half of those had their players involved too that means maybe 10 to 15 players could be banned.
2021-09-03 22:33
3 replies
I hope someone does lists of possible player bans because i know gambit coach is on that list, 2 of entropiq palyers played with cheating coach. k23 players as well Edit: nvm found what i needed esic.gg/annexure-a-sanction-outcomes.pdf
2021-09-03 22:39
2 replies
That means the ones who might be involved are: 2017-2019 Tricked. 2017-2020 Luminosity. 2020 Hard Legion. 2019 Syman and 2020 K23. 2017 and 2020 Heroic (two different coaches separately). 2017 SK and 2020 MIBR. 2019 FURIA. Late 2018 NiP (that's after Xizt left). 2017-2020 Gambit Youngsters. 2019 PaiN. 2017 FaZe. 2017 Windigo. 2017 Na'Vi (from two different coaches). 2019 Heretics. 2017 Epsilon. 2019 Red Reserve. 2018 North. 2018 Nordavind. 2015 HellRaisers and 2020 ForZe. 2018 AGO. 2020 SKADE. 2016 Dignitas. So Na'Vi and Heroic are the most suspicious ones, since it happened with multiple coaches. So for players who are still active that's: Snappi, MODDII, Es3tag, and JUGi from the 2017 line-up, Stavn, B0RUP, CadiaN, and TeSeS from the 2020 line-up, and Niko from both. Edward, Seized, GuardiaN, Flamie and S1mple from Na'Vi (and Guardian again just after he went to FaZe). So I guess the player who is most obviously implicated other than Heroic (and particularly Niko) would be Guardian.
2021-09-04 13:12
1 reply
RobbaN was already proved innocents (he muted after he saw the bug and immediately report it to the admin) so -Faze
2021-09-05 00:28
#92
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Finland Emvi
Who will win? One sigma hunden or multi-million dollar corporations big enough to coerce esic into not doing anything? Find out next time
2021-09-03 21:29
1 reply
#617
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India pranavlko
Sigma male hunden grinding against whole csgo scene alone
2021-09-04 09:31
#94
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Albania 6meters
the tekashi 69 of csgo
2021-09-03 21:28
Lmao
2021-09-03 21:28
About time that these fools get exposed. ESIC should handout a ban to all of em
2021-09-03 21:28
OMEGALUL
2021-09-03 21:29
danish scene is finished
2021-09-03 21:29
Why give up his teammates if that's not gonna help him
2021-09-03 21:29
12 replies
#140
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Finland Teukkasd
because he is asshole
2021-09-03 21:34
Why not he is done for. And if the allegations of bullying were true its great way how to get revenge
2021-09-03 22:17
6 replies
First time I'm hearing about this but lmao if it's true. Who tries to bully someone who is covering for your cheating ass.
2021-09-03 22:35
5 replies
According to hunden someone who is in heroic management lol
2021-09-03 22:36
4 replies
Sweet, some intern about to cost the company millions. :)
2021-09-03 22:41
3 replies
i cant find the post but it was senior management iirc
2021-09-03 22:44
2 replies
I was making a poor joke m8, regardless this is hilarious can't wait to see what happens to the players. Pimp did say in a tweet that he saw the evidence so this could end badly for all the players.
2021-09-03 22:47
1 reply
I mean you never know it could be some dumb intern :D
2021-09-03 22:47
Why not? I'd just do it out of spite
2021-09-04 08:56
3 replies
But some players r still young he can't just destroy theire careers like that
2021-09-04 11:58
2 replies
A cheat-based career ?? No thanks, our scene doesnt need any other that
2021-09-05 00:33
1 reply
Every body makes mistakes also it was the game mistake u wanna tell me u didn't cheat in school lol or u didn't steal money from ur parents
2021-09-05 12:10
Wow, what a snitch but still deserved for those who knew
2021-09-03 21:29
this is bad for heroic but it makes for great threads
2021-09-03 21:30
cancel TeSeS and hunden, fucking cheaters
2021-09-03 21:30
Nicolai "BAYZED" Petersen
2021-09-03 21:30
1 reply
#124
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxyownz
Absolutely BAY ZED
2021-09-03 21:32
He's going down swinging
2021-09-03 21:30
#114
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Denmark bQssa
rotte man
2021-09-03 21:31
thanks hunden!
2021-09-03 21:31
HUNDEN "Twofaced" TOLEDO
2021-09-03 21:31
#117
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United States sziasztok
so if hunden is going down, he is taking everyone else with him
2021-09-03 21:31
This guy just wants to take the org with him
2021-09-03 21:31
og -niko finally yes hes bot, get sergej or sunny and top 1....
2021-09-03 21:32
3 replies
Sergej maby, sunny never.
2021-09-03 21:48
I'd rather get RUSH in the unlikely event Niko will see punishment from this
2021-09-03 21:53
Sergej mentally weak soyboy and washed up :()
2021-09-03 23:46
You are just an average OG fan. You went through all of the chokes, loses to tier 3 teams, 14-16 loses, OT loses and still support the team. They started to look at least decent, had two successful tournaments, so you felt happy. What did happen next? Ofc this blyat
2021-09-03 21:33
5 replies
Expected from Aleksi b fan boy
2021-09-03 21:37
Niko isnt truly a part which makes OG look decent though i mean he isn't like valde value plauer let's be real
2021-09-03 21:38
3 replies
I usually think about a team more than just about a sum of individual players. niko is a hype guy + playing a lot of difficult roles.
2021-09-03 21:42
#320
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Switzerland nierg
we dont know what goes on behind the scenes. Maybe niko has very important roles in the team that cant be replaced easily? eg shiro in gambit does a lot more than awping according to his teammates, you couldnt just take another insane awper and place him into his slot.
2021-09-03 22:09
1 reply
i dont know about that because he always gets cut, surely his playing tough roles but his inconsistency always gets him cut (i watch him since the old heroic days)
2021-09-03 23:01
#128
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Romania xypperz
heroic made a huge mistake
2021-09-03 21:33
GOD HUNDEN
2021-09-03 21:33
'THE DOG' back at it again snitching
2021-09-03 21:33
Wow... I am speechless. What a crazy thing to transpire. Also holy cow, Heroic literally wanted their players to sign NDAs that would prevent them from talking about "Any information about cheating opportunities, use of errors, exploits, etc. (whether used or not)" That's actually crazy lol
2021-09-03 21:34
1 reply
Normal privacy policy for every company in the world, just don’t go against the company if you’re hired by this company because it will harm you and your colleagues…
2021-09-04 02:10
#139
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United Kingdom _xC4ctus
no wonder theyre so good at online
2021-09-03 21:34
every team that had their coach do the bug intentionally (like hunden was clearly doing) was obviously in on it
2021-09-03 21:34
#144
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Russia mshkoda
Ahahha clowns
2021-09-03 21:35
Well done Hunden, Heroic abandoned you so you take revenge. Well played
2021-09-03 21:35
rip OG
2021-09-03 21:35
#147
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United Kingdom ulan
at least niko is by far OGs worst player,losing valde mantuu or aleksib would have been 10x worse
2021-09-03 21:36
#151
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Russia deadbeef
Nice! Keep it up. Bury those pesky heroic rats!
2021-09-03 21:36
Embarrassing quote by the CEO...
2021-09-03 21:36
#153
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Portugal dracø
still banned
2021-09-03 21:36
#154
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Portugal H3NR
Nooo, not Teses :(
2021-09-03 21:36
#155
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United States Rayduh
lmao
2021-09-03 21:36
RAT KING!
2021-09-03 21:36
that's so sad, mens :(((
2021-09-03 21:37
What a great team everyone snitching on each other.
2021-09-03 21:37
hopefully they are banned too
2021-09-03 21:37
Onliners
2021-09-03 21:38
#165
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Switzerland Sylleo
stitches incoming
2021-09-03 21:38
#167
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Brazil ztxizhan
"None of you seem to understand. I'm not locked in here with you. You're locked in here with ME! - Hunden, 2021
2021-09-03 21:39
1 reply
Lmao
2021-09-03 22:42
guys does anyone know where I can find the complete log ?
2021-09-03 21:39
#169
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Ukraine SHEOL_NR
The data in the logs reportedly imply TeSeS helped HUNDEN get into the position in which the coach was then bugged ahead of the start of the map and from which he viewed the map for the first 12 rounds. TeSeS xd
2021-09-03 21:39
1 reply
He’s the coach so he could force Teses to help him or get out of the team, isn’t easy to judge the managing part of the team, and more when you’re a kid just wanting to play The most difficult analysis would be if hunden pushed teses to help him or not really and proactively did it
2021-09-04 02:07
BAN THEM ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
2021-09-03 21:39
Damn TeSeS is fucked if that is true
2021-09-03 21:40
they should be banned as well, but man thats a sad ass snake move from HUNDEN who has nothing to gain from this
2021-09-03 21:40
denmark cs LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUL oh wait nvm
2021-09-03 21:40
1 reply
Kkkkkkkkkkk
2021-09-03 21:43
"I think he should start growing up and take responsibility for what he did." You reap what you sow Heroic. This same information would have come to light earlier without making an agreement with Hunden to take full blame in coach bug investigation when after Hunden did take the blame you rewarded him by keeping him employed to your organization as an analyst until the ban was served and then you re-instated him as a coach. More responsible organizations would have fired Hunden immediately like Mousesports with their coach. You did not fire Hunden since you knew what happened inside the team and you tried to keep quiet about it.
2021-09-03 21:40
#176
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Puerto Rico pain^
rat
2021-09-03 21:40
Someone give Hunden's nudes to heroic players
2021-09-03 21:41
1 reply
wtf mens
2021-09-03 21:48
#178
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Finland niklas^
axaxaxaxaxa
2021-09-03 21:41
fucking rat hunden ! teseeeeeees bruh don't worry, this cunt won't destroy your career
2021-09-03 21:42
2 replies
TeSeS is getting banned dawg, HUNDEN now the definition of snake in csgo
2021-09-03 21:44
what if there will be actual evidence that teses knew though?
2021-09-03 21:48
#186
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Germany Ryuzth
EZ Clap
2021-09-03 21:43
Implying some players also knew about the bug doesn't turn him innocent. He should apologize, accept the ban, wait if ESIC takes measures against these players and shut up. He's caving his own grave in competitive CSGO.
2021-09-03 21:43
3 replies
propably Astralis withdrew their offer after the whole scandal and now he is teamless, banned and malding
2021-09-03 21:45
1 reply
Not only because the spectator bug, but how he has dealed with all this shit (bug + tactics), how he behave with his players, organization, etc. Astralis is a pilar in CSGO history, and absolutely will not want to have anything with HUNDEN, even if he is an amazing coach. Let's wait until ESIC pronounces in relation with TeSeS and niko, then we will be able to judge. F.E.: The Lance Armstrong doping: his accomplishements have been questioned and all his legacy is tainted, worse than being second without doping/cheats. Nobody wants anything (sports related) with him.
2021-09-03 22:10
He already served the ban for coach bug bro. This new ban has nothing to do and it has no sense at all. They banned him for 2 years because he shared the playbook but nobody used it, which is a break of TOS with Heroic, but ESIC has nothing to do with that, specially when nobody opened the file so the competition wasn't altered. You share the playbook breaking a rule that doesn't exist = 2 years ban You use a bug on purpose to gain a big advantage = 10month ban Gla1ve did some retweets about all this matter that are quite accurate on how I think about all of this, specially after the interview with ESIC member where he had no clue about csgo and he made up his opinion based on what Heroic told him, lol.
2021-09-04 10:40
Fck them kids.
2021-09-03 21:43
1 reply
#313
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Pakistan red_nx
+69
2021-09-03 22:08
Lol gg actually
2021-09-03 21:44
Better storyline than ronaldo vs messi
2021-09-03 21:45
#201
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Finland AliSabid
Welp
2021-09-03 21:46
enjoy vacations heroic
2021-09-03 21:47
#204
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World elefiveS
HEROIC....... BYE BYEEEEE!
2021-09-03 21:47
#206
JW | 
Russia Slavaa
HAHAHAHAHA HUNDEN IS PATHETIC AF
2021-09-03 21:47
Players should be banned, same ban time Hunden took (or even more, they acted like innocent)
2021-09-03 21:48
#209
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Switzerland Alpollo
Hopefully Cadian gets banned
2021-09-03 21:48
2 replies
Why?
2021-09-04 02:02
1 reply
#639
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Switzerland Alpollo
Cause I hate him
2021-09-04 11:50
Dog hunden
2021-09-03 21:49
this is better than the "Avengers vs Thanos"
2021-09-03 21:49
fuuuuuuuck what to take away from this: - hunden is an immature snake & a notorious liar - heroic is probably RIP - maybe OG is forced to change as well (niko?) i hate hunden with a passion by now but this shit is spicy
2021-09-03 21:49
hahaha dont fuck with hundelaar kids
2021-09-03 21:49
Oh... crap. This might change the Heroic roster. In b4 changes. Excited though.
2021-09-03 21:49
LOOOOOOOOOOL GOD HUNDEN
2021-09-03 21:50
gla1ve was right
2021-09-03 21:50
7 replies
Link ?
2021-09-03 21:51
4 replies
1 reply
Mens ))))
2021-09-03 21:53
2021-09-03 21:53
1 reply
gla1ve god always one step ahead of us mortals
2021-09-03 21:54
#352
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Pakistan exzish
Damn!
2021-09-03 22:21
#451
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Norway dr_fiji
Big brain was right
2021-09-03 23:27
#225
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Finland Tusku
damn
2021-09-03 21:51
LETS GO HUNDEN! DO THE DAMAGE!
2021-09-03 21:51
They all knew, they all deserve the same 2 year ban. If They don't get banned then we know ESIC is bullshit and this was just an attack on HUNDEN not about integrity at all.
2021-09-03 21:51
#229
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Russia mshkoda
Teses dog Niko dog Hunden dog and god
2021-09-03 21:51
ESIC MUST punish heroic and all players involved.
2021-09-03 21:53
LOL. Isn't this juicy? Well, HUNDEN will get punished for what he did but their players who were involved should get the same treatment. That's only fair.
2021-09-03 21:53
So Hunden on top of it all, also lied the first time he "cooperated" with ESIC? XD What a brilliant guy, trully a hero XD so is he now finally banned for life from CS:GO?
2021-09-03 21:53
GOD HUNDEN
2021-09-03 21:53
This is just my opinion, so you can feel free to agree or disagree. I think it's extremely important for us to wait and see what all the investigations find, and what other information gets released by heroic, the players, ESIC, journalists, and Hunden. So far what we know is that some players were involved in the scandal, but not how or why. There's as equal a likelyhood that these players were taking part in the cheating to help their team win (as many of the coaches who abused the bug did), as they were because they coerced or blackmailed into it (they could've learned about what Hunden did, and he threatened them with benching or a kick). Although I will say the former is more likely. Like I said, it's extremely important to wait for more information, and to be aware that everything is a possibility, though that's just my opinion on the matter and nobody has to agree with it.
2021-09-03 21:54
#246
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Scotland legji
Hundens is pissed at the org so he takes it out on his former teammates. Well someone knows how to completely destroy their career and any friendships he has ever had in the active pro scene. If I was in a team I wouldn't interact with him ever again. GG no RE, what a rat.
2021-09-03 21:54
RIP Heroic
2021-09-03 21:54
#250
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South Africa bonkaz
Cheating cunt snitching because he's mad. I mean, alright, punish his former team mates if they're guilty. But he's a salty cunt nonetheless :D
2021-09-03 21:54
I don't understand - why did Hunden leak their strats? Did he sell it? Why is he snitching on them? Did they do something to him? Did they want to kick him?
2021-09-03 21:55
5 replies
We will never know
2021-09-03 22:02
Yes. He was fired real quick. Now he is doing revenge I guess.
2021-09-03 22:02
According to him he was getting bullied hard by someone in heroic management and wanted out so much he declined pay raise, stocks of heroic as org, new apartment and new car. He was then cockblocked by heroic org so he couldnt talk to players anymore so he blocked the acces to folder, then he wanted to share the folder as hail marry to land deal with astralis most likely.
2021-09-03 22:23
2 replies
Unprofessional and childish behaviour ever, it’d also br against his contract most likely, he got what he deserved
2021-09-04 01:55
1 reply
IF his accusations are true he would win in danish court so try again
2021-09-05 18:15
Every fucking tournament they won should be given to the runners up for instance; Vitality and I know nobody would like to win a tournament like that, but that would be fair. I knew this dogs were cheating somehow into the top 3 back then
2021-09-03 22:04
12 replies
well to be fair they only cheated in 2 cases, didnt they? there was a big investigation of hundreds of demos, seems like their tournament wins were legit after all doesnt make them better people though, in case they really knew (which they probably did)
2021-09-03 21:58
#274
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Denmark Danny D3
Brave to say, considering your flair.
2021-09-03 21:59
6 replies
And? i would say the same thing about gambit too. Doesn‘t matter nobody needs cheating in the scene..
2021-09-03 22:01
5 replies
#301
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Denmark Danny D3
"Gambit for instance or Vitality and I know nobody would like to win a tournament like that, but that would be fair." Seemed like you didn't though? It's quite suspicious that Gambit currently has a manager that are banned from majors, who was an analyst in the team during his ban.
2021-09-03 22:04
4 replies
I erased Gambit out of the equation, as they weren‘t the one who suffered from the cheating (it was Vitality) F1N? Yeah I didn‘t even propose for his reinstalling into the coaching role.
2021-09-03 22:09
3 replies
#326
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Denmark Danny D3
None of that changes the fact that they had him as an analyst during his ban, and reinstated him as a coach when the ban was over earlier last month. He got an increased ban compared to other coaches due to having used in in 6 maps, and banned from all majors.. yet Gambit somehow did the exact same with him as Heroic did to HUNDEN. It's funny how it isn't in the news at all.
2021-09-03 22:11
2 replies
I am absolutely not in the ESIC banning coaches and etc... HUNDEN is simply the most known case. I can‘t give any insights so yeah maybe you are right. Idk
2021-09-03 22:15
1 reply
#340
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Denmark Danny D3
Yeah that's what I'm trying to say. HUNDEN is the most known case, likely because he was so outspoken about it and was the first to admit it, yet a cheater like F_1N, who was even worse than HUNDEN in abusing the bug, has almost gone completely unmentioned. From my perspective he is even worse, if you don't count the strat sharing drama and this.
2021-09-03 22:18
Why gambit? To vitality I understand, but why gambit? The coach bug was fixed a year ago and the epl season 13 final was a couple of moths ago, again, why gambit? They lost fair
2021-09-03 22:01
3 replies
Really? Let me check it. You are right. I confused the timeline. Then Vitality should be named as the Winner
2021-09-03 22:09
2 replies
Vitality should get the win, yes
2021-09-03 22:09
1 reply
Yep
2021-09-03 22:09
A hell lot of other teams were caught using the coach bug so why only this case is blowing up ? im confused
2021-09-03 21:57
#264
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Russia Topper!
damn what is going on
2021-09-03 21:57
Interesting development
2021-09-03 21:57
You will be hated for preaching the truth, but what Hunden did is worthy of admiration, I hope they punish those spoiled children
2021-09-03 21:58
2 replies
It’s good for a coach-manager to force people to take advantage of it just for own profit? Just asking because the main one being praised for Heroic victories were Hunden, he’s just frustrated about his career being ruined, and he wants people to be kicked as him, which is a snitch, f*** him and his toxic actitude
2021-09-04 01:51
1 reply
I want to see it all burn :()
2021-09-04 07:38
POG heroic stickers gonna rise now
2021-09-03 21:58
60
2021-09-03 21:59
Bye bye heroic XAXAXAXAXAXAXAXXAXA
2021-09-03 21:59
1 reply
#295
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Europe Hrscmk
more like bye bye whoroic cuz they don't even have a team
2021-09-03 22:02
Shame on Valve for not fixing this bug for years, they knew and let all this happen .. and when the hell do they release an update that fix dropping massive FPS in smokes and molly? And what's wrong with Valves piss servers today?
2021-09-03 22:00
#278
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Finland uSnaj69
holy cow! Whoopsy Daisy!
2021-09-03 21:59
1 reply
Easy peasy lemon squeezy
2021-09-04 01:48
the big guy seems well versed not only in csgo but COURT RP too,+respect
2021-09-03 22:00
Snitch9 vibes right there
2021-09-03 22:00
#284
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Brazil Anarchybr
I lost all my respect towards HEROIC orgs and players. They all should get banned
2021-09-03 22:00
#285
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United States mmaexpert
damn that is a bombshell if i ever seen one
2021-09-03 22:01
what the fuck is this, nothing even makes sense anymore besides hunden a shit human
2021-09-03 22:01
ahahahahaha pathetic snitch
2021-09-03 22:02
Surely players on every team knew that their coach was using the bug, at some point...
2021-09-03 22:02
1 reply
+1
2021-09-04 01:03
#298
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Europe tsken
Shame on you Heroic.
2021-09-03 22:03
Imagine how they are feeling right now, I feel sad for them even tho they cheated
2021-09-03 22:03
1 reply
LOL? why sad about cheaters? some guys wasted years to get that level and they just cheat? Why you are not sad about orgs and players that left game after losing to these cheating scumbugs? Spirit for example?
2021-09-04 12:01
#302
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Canada _penguins
Hey atleast they can rebuild around Refrezh
2021-09-03 22:04
1 reply
#456
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Norway dr_fiji
+1
2021-09-03 23:30
Hunden is a man-child. Grow the fuck up.
2021-09-03 22:04
This is actually huge regarding heroic players, the org and for the game itself. ESIC shouldn't take any steps that can harm the game.
2021-09-03 22:04
#307
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Finland H0rnPub
2 EPL quater finalist teams affected by this :DD
2021-09-03 22:05
RATDEN
2021-09-03 22:06
Not a big deal this was just an onliner team anyways, it will be nice to have them out of the way
2021-09-03 22:06
#311
HS | 
Europe Hrscmk
future of danish valorant scene looks good
2021-09-03 22:11
this was while friberg was in the team?
2021-09-03 22:08
#315
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France Al_Zhar
Is this the way CSGO dies tho
2021-09-03 22:08
1 reply
#520
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Hungary Mitomen20
Yes, the banning of 3 little danish shitkids will kill csgo...even though there are countless more spectacular danish players out there and interest in the game.
2021-09-04 01:03
noobs Heroic xDD
2021-09-03 22:09
This a war now huh?
2021-09-03 22:10
tbh they hit the top 1 with rush strats against tier 1 teams.. everyone in the team knows about it
2021-09-03 22:10
Hahahhaha lezgooo DOGHunden But will heroic play in the play-offs? 🤔
2021-09-03 22:10
It seems like RUSH might find a team quicker than expected ahah
2021-09-03 22:13
2 replies
OG?
2021-09-03 23:43
1 reply
yeah the timing seems perfect for him
2021-09-04 01:44
i better go get some heroic sticker. who know maybe new IBP
2021-09-03 22:13
4 replies
400 IQ no joke
2021-09-03 22:19
3 replies
get golds tho xDDD
2021-09-03 22:23
2 replies
Get 100 of those and 10 years into the future sell them with 10k
2021-09-03 22:25
1 reply
if volvo didn't put them again alongside ibp and titan when they switch to source 2
2021-09-03 22:28
What will heroic do now? They will only have sjuush and refrezh, should they go international?
2021-09-03 22:13
basically cadians sick 1v4 clutch was thanks to hunden cam? what a shame
2021-09-03 22:13
7 replies
The coach bug was fixed a year ago, the epl final was a couple of months ago, what are you talking about?
2021-09-03 22:19
6 replies
im old mens, days melt together with days and months and years felt like that ESL final was like 2 years ago at this point
2021-09-03 22:20
5 replies
xD, it's ok
2021-09-03 22:21
4 replies
im happy to know the clutch was real though, it was so beautiful, even starts with a knife kill
2021-09-03 22:23
3 replies
I saw it live, what a feeling that was, even tho I wasn't cheering for heroic
2021-09-03 22:24
2 replies
yeah what a way to finish the map off haha, and even the commentary are obviously sarcastically joking about this 1v4 will happen but suddenly it all became very real xD love it
2021-09-03 22:25
1 reply
fyi the coach bug was used in 2 maps, one vs spirit (dust2) and one vs astralis (inferno)
2021-09-04 03:28
hunden aka rat. what's the point of doing this? just grow up and move on. very shitty behaviour.
2021-09-03 22:14
I'll fuck myself but I'll take you with me... In Brazil we call people like HUNDEN of "X9"
2021-09-03 22:14
*Insert Prof rant on the latest HLTV Confirmed show*
2021-09-03 22:18
1 reply
HUNDEN joins hltv confirmed as guest and he gets into a fight win SPUNJ, latest hltv confirmed
2021-09-03 22:22
Nothing is gonna happen to them.
2021-09-03 22:21
Heroic rising that fast to the top was really suspect when online era begun.. every time i thought something was wrong.. just like i still think there's something wrong with gambit and airlya as well
2021-09-03 22:22
1 reply
#395
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Finland Multix
You do know that Heroic/hunden used coach bug on few maps/matches `? not like they used it every match :D
2021-09-03 22:43
#358
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Germany at0myq
Hunden bigger snitch than 6ix9ine, please ban Heroic Onliners
2021-09-03 22:23
It doesn't matter if the heroic boys knew, they will not get a punishment
2021-09-03 22:25
RIP CAREERS!
2021-09-03 22:28
OG already looking for a replacement for sure
2021-09-03 22:28
So refrezh and sjuush are safe?
2021-09-03 22:29
5 replies
#387
b1t | 
Russia lo0u
Yes.
2021-09-03 22:37
1 reply
ty
2021-09-03 22:47
#436
HS | 
Europe Hrscmk
2v5 tho
2021-09-03 23:16
2 replies
hopefully they will find 3 more players to join them)
2021-09-04 01:14
1 reply
#529
HS | 
Europe Hrscmk
+msl +jugi +acor new top1
2021-09-04 01:17
Ban both HUNDEN and Heroic. Problem solved xd
2021-09-03 22:29
cya cheaters
2021-09-03 22:30
full scorched earth lmao
2021-09-03 22:31
This is the poison running its course. They blame eachother but are all guilty. I hope evidence is the only thing that matters and that everyone implicated gets what they deserve. Cheaters never prosper!
2021-09-03 22:31
Shitty move, HUNDEN. No need to ruin others careers like this, when they prolly didn't initiate the use of this. No respect for this petty revenge.
2021-09-03 22:31
3 replies
Already happened
2021-09-03 22:32
This guy is egoist
2021-09-03 22:33
1 reply
Very.
2021-09-03 22:43
Snitches get stitches @hunden
2021-09-03 22:34
#381
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Poland Hanse
MEGASNAKE
2021-09-03 22:35
#383
HS | 
Europe Hrscmk
back stabbing hunden turned out to be the biggest heroic mistake ever bye bye partnership with omaken sports
2021-09-03 22:36
mad
2021-09-03 22:35
GMX 2.0 XD
2021-09-03 22:38
#390
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Portugal joaosenra
HE SHOULD have done this sooner but better than never
2021-09-03 22:39
#391
b1t | 
Russia lo0u
Man, HUNDEN is the lowest cunt there is. It's one thing to tell the truth in the beginning when you're being accused and say you did it, but other people also know about it. It's another when you lie, saying you were the only one who knew about it, then you act like a self absorbed twat, sharing your team's confidential information with an opponent team, and because you got caught, you decide to release everything you have against other people, out of spite. Fuck this guy. I hope his career is finished and he's never given another chance in eSports again. It's about time people start being professionals in eSports.
2021-09-03 22:42
3 replies
Fair points I have to say. Have a good day!
2021-09-03 22:53
1 reply
#416
b1t | 
Russia lo0u
You too man!
2021-09-03 22:55
100% agree with this man, he just want to drag with him some promising kids that only helped him when he required, he’s the coach and the people just followed his orders… What a disgrace of a person
2021-09-04 01:39
#399
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Russia B0B0B
Was ein Hurensohn
2021-09-03 22:45
2 replies
cry more
2021-09-03 22:53
1 reply
OK Flair
2021-09-04 14:20
HUNDEN will never work in esport. no team will tutche him
2021-09-03 22:46
1 reply
he already confirmed that he will leave eSports after this, but it seems like he wants to go out with a bang and take as many ppl as possible with him.
2021-09-03 23:42
explain why they kept him even management knew kekw
2021-09-03 22:47
Get the f*** out of CS:GO you cheater, liar and take your disgusting personality with you. And stop dragging kids down with you on your way to the freaking bottom. It's pathetic and unnecessary.
2021-09-03 22:49
8 replies
wooooow get some fresh air man :)
2021-09-03 22:53
3 replies
#414
b1t | 
Russia lo0u
He's right. HUNDEN is the exact type of person that will destroy the pro scene. It's about time we get rid of these people.
2021-09-03 22:54
Wtf? I've just been out for "fresh air". He's a bag of sh1t
2021-09-03 22:54
1 reply
yea he might be a shit bag but he's still god hunden haha. also what he says is not really surprising, this whole heroic project is sketchy.
2021-09-03 22:59
You seem mad that Denmark’s only decent team is now done. It’ll be ok. Heroic players will get perm bans because this is obviously worse than ibp scandal.
2021-09-03 23:29
2 replies
I'll admit to the fact, that to see the careers of such talented players as TeSeS and stavn go down the drain is painful, especially since they were so young when it happened and it must have been impossible for them to realize what was going on before they were too involved.
2021-09-04 12:00
1 reply
Same can be said for brax, steel, and the rest of the ibp players. Except heroic cheating is worse than ibp throwing. It’s only fair heroic players all get perma banned from CS competition
2021-09-04 16:23
but it seems like heroic org was completely involved in this so all of them should be punished
2021-09-04 11:54
Valve fault, because of broken game.
2021-09-03 22:51
This might be first case when team disbands not willingly
2021-09-03 22:52
#418
HS | 
Estonia qoznyyy
expected
2021-09-03 22:57
valve fault, really fix the game ffs
2021-09-03 23:02
1 reply
If you have an opportunity it is on you if and how you use it
2021-09-04 14:18
This makes Hunden look so much worse. I'm glad he responded though, a final resolution is in sight and Heroic will either clear their name or be penalised. I was about to bang on about how I don't sympathise with Heroic because something like this was always likely when they kept him on after the coaching bug, I gave them no end of hell for it at the time because I thought it made no sense. Now I guess it's not actually out of the realms of possibility that they had other motives to keep him on. And I have no popcorn :-(
2021-09-03 23:04
#425
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Denmark fazzz1
Tbh I would do the same if my ex-team ruined my career because they are salty hunden gave some strats
2021-09-03 23:09
#426
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Serbia biTe19
KEKW so childish
2021-09-03 23:10
#430
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Finland OttoRocks
For me the biggest and corrupted part in this is ESIC, they hand bans left and right and new information is getting out every day, skip these corrupted 3rd party money grabbers and hold valves feet to the fire
2021-09-03 23:13
5 replies
+1
2021-09-03 23:44
In a scenario where it's likely a team cheated for you the shady and corrupt entity is ESIC, a integrity organisation??? What?
2021-09-04 03:25
3 replies
#631
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Finland OttoRocks
In which this organization both investigates and hand out bans. There is a reason that in the most corrupt parts of the world there is police, prosecutors and judges and they are separate entities (they can also be corrupted for sure, but at least there is a theater of justice). They really should the very least drop integrity from their name. Point and case if HUNDEN were to protest 2 year ban would have turned 5 years, that is quid pro quo for corruption. Now HUNDEN has no other recourse but go public. The whole process should have been open, but ESIC works in secret, evidence is not shared public just some bits and pieces... And I get why cos usually police (or other party) gathers evidence then its made public and prosecutors make the case against, public is very much in the loop and can decide for them selves. Now ESIC gathers evidence, don't publish it, makes case against in secret and at the end just willydilly decide ban from magic hat that can be any lenght
2021-09-04 10:58
2 replies
Agreed on the first point, it's not ideal that ESIC as many roles as it has and that could lead to many problems in the future. As for the 5 year extension I'm sure that's related to the fact he willingly shared the files that could have breached integrety and after that denied any wrongdoing which to me just says 0 regret and a lack of an understanding of basic integrety as in I would do it again if I could. The most important point that I think you misunderstand is how ESIC operates. They're a bunch of sport lawyers supported by private leagues who's job is to make sure games are free from match fixing and other bs. Private being the key word, not public and as such they are in no way obligated to release private information that could warm a player/team in the public to make a decision. Furthermore its not just them making a call as theyre supported by a panel of experts (ESL, orgs, players) For more info just watch the last Hltv confirmed it awnsers most of your points
2021-09-04 13:55
1 reply
#692
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Finland OttoRocks
You mean ex-lawyers who are inept to practice law, but can be used as private dicks?
2021-09-04 23:03
#441
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Iceland suriel666
2021-09-03 23:18
Heroic deserves at least a 5 year ban. This is far worse than IBP scandal.
2021-09-03 23:25
1 reply
BAN all BUG abusers!
2021-09-04 04:46
Hunden GOAT snake?
2021-09-03 23:25
hopefully they get out of this with some light punishment. it's not good for competition if one of the top teams just vanish
2021-09-03 23:27
6 replies
valve did it to IBP and last time i checked cheating to win matches is FAR worse than throwing a game for $10k. heroic players will all get perma bans probably
2021-09-03 23:31
3 replies
hmmmm maybe, though hunden is being handed just a 2 year ban so idk if they'll get a permanent ban though i agree that cheating is worse than throwing and valve ruining steels career is the gayest thing besides chaos roster not being picked up
2021-09-03 23:35
2 replies
+1 will never be able to forgive valve for what they did to ibp kids. only thing we can push for in the meantime is consistency which would mean perma bans to all of heroic players and hunden.
2021-09-03 23:39
1 reply
yeah that's true, justice should be equal to everyone
2021-09-03 23:47
What a guy Cheaters should be perma banned xD what you have in this peanut brain? Fish?
2021-09-03 23:45
1 reply
well i did eat fish a few hours ago
2021-09-03 23:46
Epic gangnam style :()
2021-09-03 23:30
#458
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Slovakia DR_GON
what a dog
2021-09-03 23:30
1 reply
Hero! Humans should know their false goats.
2021-09-04 04:46
Refresh is safe
2021-09-03 23:30
2 replies
how could refrezh or sjuush even be involved in this? lmao they weren't even on the at the time
2021-09-04 02:13
1 reply
fax wont change, he is safe
2021-09-04 04:53
Cameraman Hunden >>>>>>>> House of Cards
2021-09-03 23:31
1 reply
True
2021-09-03 23:42
My prayers have been heard and answered
2021-09-03 23:34
1 reply
Volvo fix best fix R8/10
2021-09-04 03:20
The HUNDEN meme is changing before our eyes.. from beloved dogshit player to absolute shitshow cheater and destroyer of teammates.
2021-09-03 23:35
2 replies
Why you dont hate heroic players tho? They cheated with him…Its so fckin unfair im nit surprised hunden did it.
2021-09-03 23:44
1 reply
Niko cute and delicate like potato... Why did he chet i cri everitiem :()
2021-09-04 07:44
... What kind of investigation it will lead to Im curious if anything. Makes me wonder why only coach were suspended during the ban wave obviously players were aware so if Heroic players get punishment MANY SHOULD TOO.
2021-09-03 23:38
3 replies
The thing is you can't ban the players without having actual proof of them knowing.
2021-09-04 01:28
2 replies
Pretty much this. You can't ban players without hard evidence otherwise players like ropz, zywoo and flusha would have been banned a long time ago. This is also the position of ESIC. Now depending on the info hunden shows that may constitute hard evidence although hunden is not exactly a reliable source... Hunden is done so question is if heroic goes down with him or just suffers a really nasty reputation scar...
2021-09-04 03:17
Totally agree, I think the first investigation didn’t target all concerned people, it should also reach management and T/O that closed their eyes.
2021-09-04 10:17
Haha i rememember people flaming me because i said that everyone from heroic knew about this big and they were involved too Where are you now? It was obvious they did it together. Hunded did at least one thing right - exposed dirty cheaters.
2021-09-03 23:43
2 replies
Well we have yet to see if its All but anyone who knew needs to go down with him
2021-09-04 00:00
Nip Flair nice hypocrit
2021-09-04 14:16
Finally snake heroic players will be banned, hopefully :/
2021-09-03 23:55
🤡nline cs competitive integrity Pick one
2021-09-03 23:58
Expected of Snake HUNDEN
2021-09-03 23:59
3 replies
You would done same thing if knew could get back at someone
2021-09-04 00:01
2 replies
#523
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France ayygurl
not sure why he shared anti-strat in the first place tho
2021-09-04 01:04
1 reply
Me neither.. that was stupid and the person he sent to didnt even open so was for nothing
2021-09-04 08:58
FUCK HUNDEN
2021-09-04 00:03
#498
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Serbia Dusan837
Why they dont take this idiot in jail and stop with this shit talk
2021-09-04 00:05
#499
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Denmark Likli
The dog is rabid
2021-09-04 00:12
What a dumbass
2021-09-04 00:17
why do u even need evidence tho isnt it ovbious? like, hunden is giving info out of the blue and heroic just say "ok hunden" without asking how?
2021-09-04 00:23
#505
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Canada chanse
Wow, that's my idol Hunden. Super toxic and two faced.
2021-09-04 00:31
Hunden 6ix 9ine. But at-least he proves almost every pro player cheated at one point. A-lot of people hate cheating and now a-lot of people are defending it. Weird.
2021-09-04 00:41
bye bye cheaters
2021-09-04 00:42
Bye bye
2021-09-04 01:01
It's clear that HUNDEN, the players and the org itself colluded to hide this knowledge from ESIC. They should all get a lifetime ban including the entire of Heroic org from CSGO.
2021-09-04 01:21
#532
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Philippines sijibats
WHOnden
2021-09-04 01:29
#535
cAmyy | 
Other ToRu
HUNDEN X9
2021-09-04 01:36
Hnden, cadian, danish niko cya in 10.
2021-09-04 01:47
ESIC do their best banning players for matchfixing a tier 10 tournament for 50 AUD & they do their best protecting cheaters like heroic from recieving ANY punishment. They only gave Hunden a 2 year ban because he rattled their cage. Hunden actually did us a favour - because he exposed ESIC for protecting systematic cheaters like heroic.
2021-09-04 02:01
Well to everyone around it was pretty obvious that all the team knew, it would be silly to think otherwise. The team should get penalty for the same crime, nothing else matters here
2021-09-04 02:04
1 reply
#626
DG | 
Spain MCMXCVI
same with every team, there is just no way, we are just turnin a blind eye on it
2021-09-04 10:22
LOL
2021-09-04 02:06
low life hunden bark again
2021-09-04 02:12
So HUNDEN bugged out thanks to the willing co-operation of the teammates who were part of the organization that threw him under the bus? Interesting
2021-09-04 02:20
based
2021-09-04 02:51
i dont trust Hunden, he is a piece of shit, so i will wait till ESIC confirms it or make a statement
2021-09-04 03:38
#576
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Australia NgeL
I thought Hunden said he really cares about his teammates? This mans like a 30 year old baby.
2021-09-04 03:56
#577
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China Dean377
well, that was heroic move
2021-09-04 04:11
#579
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Finland dvlx
hunden is innocent and will bounce back someday
2021-09-04 04:34
BEHOLD THE NEW RAT KING
2021-09-04 04:45
#586
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India rivervp
I knew it heroic were cheaters, I am so glad the entire org and players will be going down, specially cadian and stavn. So happy :)
2021-09-04 05:20
What a fkin rat this hunden doggo is. He fkin failed his shit and now he wants everybody else to suffer with him? Somebody wrote snitches get stitches, I AGREE.
2021-09-04 05:26
Imagine taking Heroic's side given the org's history. Heroic uses "we didn't fire you for using the bug" as a reason he should be grateful to them (for PR against him after leaving), so he's proving that he was the one protecting Heroic's asses.
2021-09-04 05:38
2 replies
They probably didn't fire him because they knew players knew.
2021-09-04 08:04
1 reply
That's what I'm saying. They're using "We didn't fire him after he cheated!" as a PR weapon against him when there were obvious ulterior motives.
2021-09-04 08:05
#594
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Indonesia tldr))
What a GIGA CHAD move by DOG HUNDEN Let's gooo at least i support u to spoil who is cheater from heroic Also heroic players desevered ban too Have a nice day mens))
2021-09-04 07:31
hunden is a snake but -200 IQ move by heroic to try this without protecting their arses
2021-09-04 07:43
Don't see why the Heroic CEO would get the evidence from Hunden if he is giving it to ESIC, so I'm not sure what he is complaining about that for.
2021-09-04 08:13
Dogroic
2021-09-04 08:38
#605
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Australia notanalt
Hunden literal dog cunt LOL
2021-09-04 08:40
Shame teses will be banned, he was skilled player but oh well
2021-09-04 08:58
I hope Heroic will sue Hunden for every cent he will ever earn. About this case: ESIC boss said he needs clear evidence that is from that specific time when he used the bug. The question, is this enough? I dunno how these logs look like. But if true ban them all. Sad for heroic players that Hunden brought them in the situation cuz without Hunden nothing like this happens. But it was Heroic responsibility to hire the coach also to protect their players from sick people like Hunden. They didn't make it obv.
2021-09-04 09:00
#614
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Denmark utzibushi
Being a Heroic fan sure is rough right now. I am still waiting to see what evidence will be provided, but if it happens to be, that the players were cheating or was in on the cheat, then I am obviously done with Heroic.
2021-09-04 09:11
Lmao
2021-09-04 09:18
#616
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United Kingdom VenoK
Biggest snake of all time
2021-09-04 09:20
F Cadian :(
2021-09-04 09:49
"I have honestly had enough of HUNDEN's attacks on all the boys he has coached. I think he should start growing up and take responsibility for what he did," you and your players should do the same lol...what a statement
2021-09-04 09:56
4 replies
"your players?" Since when is esic heroic?
2021-09-04 14:14
3 replies
Ceo of heroic said that buddy ;)
2021-09-04 14:33
2 replies
Ok but I remember the ESIC guy said sth similar about Hunden.
2021-09-04 16:10
1 reply
I only copied statement which is in this article... Hunden is guilty. No doubt about that and I don't want to excuse him at all but if his claiming are true then players just should be punished bcs they are as guilty as him
2021-09-04 16:53
HUNDEN became a respected figure in the scene after all the memes and shit, then proceeded to destroy everything overnight. Hats off for such a performance. But afterall, if he shielded the org and the players by being the only one taking the ban saying they didn't know... and that's how he got treated by the org and the players afterwards by saying he shared strats materials, they have no fucking face either. To be fair it was one the most stupid shit I have ever seen especially since it was shared on a Google Drive lol. The guy isn't the brightest mind to do a thing like that, obviously they would easily know... But still if the team he shared that with didn't read it, swallow it and move on. He took a bullet for you in the first place. I mean I'm sure that's why he's trying to bring them down after what he did for them.
2021-09-04 10:02
6 replies
He shared strats that is out of question. Hunden was the one who abused the bug no matter who else know it. Everything that happens during cheating and after cheating is on Hunden alone. Eliminate Hunden out of the story this news wouldn't exist. That proves my point
2021-09-04 14:13
5 replies
No it's not on HUNDEN alone because what ESIC does is protecting the competitive integrity. If the players and the org knew about this and actively did it together while trying to protect each other while also trying to control what's being said and done around this, it's EVERYONE's fault. Not just on HUNDEN.
2021-09-04 14:21
4 replies
Hunden started all of this so it is his fault alone. Like an car accident that happens because the driver don't drive properly. All in the car in danger and get hurt cuz of the driver decisions
2021-09-04 14:22
3 replies
That's not how it works. It was HUNDEN idea to rob a bank, we know it's wrong but we did it with him. They did all benefit from this and yet only one get sentenced. But they're all accomplice. So no, it's not only on him.
2021-09-04 14:28
2 replies
What is if he Rob a bank and the players were in the bank already as costumers and then he demand help from them. Even if they don't do all people think they are bank robber as well. The bank here is csgo.
2021-09-04 15:17
1 reply
You can't be serious... You just can't
2021-09-04 19:28
snitches get stitches
2021-09-04 10:12
#625
DG | 
Spain MCMXCVI
everyone knew from every team its just that cs will die if they get ban
2021-09-04 10:20
"I have been threatened on my safety to take all the blame and cover up the organization." People should read the full article & interview with google translate : sport.tv2.dk/e-sport/2021-09-03-nye-info.. Other than the CEO everyone involved is refusing to comment on the matter, the CEO even refused an interview. Sure HUNDEN did wrong but all of this shit is shady from Heroic. Especially the part where the org came with an NDA for things like cheating, coaching bug & the online era lmao, SHADY ORG!
2021-09-04 10:36
#634
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Sweden Svahn
If im going down im taking you all with me!
2021-09-04 11:06
HUNDEN applying the "scorched earth" strategy... N1ce!
2021-09-04 11:25
Always knew it was strange that cadian suddenly became this good
2021-09-04 11:41
just ban all these cheating losers and this cheating org they have no respect and dignity
2021-09-04 11:52
#641
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Brunei ALEISTER!
Teses to valorant lets go
2021-09-04 11:52
#BANHEROIC
2021-09-04 12:01
I lost all my respect to Heroic Do what you have to do ESIC, but not like you did it with Vitality! 10k for stream sniping ... what a joke and huge disrespect in community face
2021-09-04 14:05
1 reply
I agree on the fact that the fine was way too low but they did not stream snipe, the TV stream was in another room, even if behind the players, separated by a glass. As the TO were able to film them in their "booth" they could easily know if they took a timeout to look behind to stream snipe. The fine should have been for running a stream close to the players which was forbidden. Now I think, they should hand HUNDEN a lifetime ban but they should really investigate this shady org just to know if what he said was true. Like if they can get their hand on the NDA contract they wanted everyone to sign to avoid leaks on the coaching bug/cheating. This is next level shady shit.
2021-09-04 14:17
Dog Hunden is a snitch confirmed.
2021-09-04 14:06
hope all cheaters get banned, yeah its not nice to do now maybe but its good they get banned
2021-09-04 14:17
#669
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United Kingdom b00ka
hunden u snake
2021-09-04 14:50
Hunden is fat scumbag trying to take people down with him because he knows he's done for. Get a real job loser.
2021-09-04 15:32
AXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXA HUNDEN SNAKE AND SNITCH 6IXH9NDEN
2021-09-04 16:20
He should make a statement saying that he will not kill himself, he is in some very dangerous waters.
2021-09-04 16:52
#685
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India slavloli
Hunden looks like a rat, literally
2021-09-04 17:56
Just wow
2021-09-04 18:55
Heroic New Ibuypower?
2021-09-05 01:51
Bitten in the ass by The Dog. Their own dog. Oh irony.
2021-09-05 04:15
I find it immensely funny reading a lot of these comments (haven't read all effin 700 of them), so many are like "why is he screwing over the players???!?" Now I'm only speculating here.... but! To be honest, I think that they're just a "casualty of war" between Hunden and the Heroic owners/management. The org screwed him over, now he's screwing them back, and the players gets caught in the cross-fire. He might just think that "the goal justifies the means", so if some players gets thrown under the bus, so be it. If a former hostile (according to Hunden) employer made my career go up in flames, I'd be damn tempted to burn them to the ground along side me.
2021-09-05 11:14
ahahah a ceo trying to protect his shady business
2021-09-05 11:19
big up Hunden, the european scout equivalent to ocean. Take them down with you!
2021-09-05 15:02
Mega onliners + cheaters xD bye bye heroic
2021-09-06 07:46
Fucking disappointing team, I just want OG to go success and then this happens lmfao
2021-09-08 02:43
Richard Lewis explained youtube.com/watch?v=857v-GDiUiU
2021-09-10 03:39
you all going to jail bye bye heroic
2021-09-10 14:14
Heroic CEO Joachim Haraldsen responded to the allegations to TV2 after being presented with the conversation between niko and HUNDEN. "I have honestly had enough of HUNDEN's attacks on all the boys he has coached. I think he should start growing up and take responsibility for what he did," Haraldsen said. meanwhile when they caught teses and niko, this ceo gonna be malding so much LUL. LET'S BE HONEST, HUNDEN ISN'T THAT SMART IN THE FIRST PLACE TO FIND OUT ABOUT "COACH BUG" WHILE HIS MATES NOT KNOWING ABOUT IT. I'M 1000000000000000000000000000000% SURE ONE OF HEROIC PLAYERS MUST BE CONTRIBUTING WITH HIM ON PERFECTING THOSE COACH BUG, SO YEAH HE IS A SORELOSER BUT HE SURE WANTS TO BRING JUSTICE TO THOSE PLAYERS WHO ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTING THE SAME SHIT AS HIM. IF THE WHOLE ESIC WANT TO MAKE CSGO TIER 1 CLEAN, HE WANTS TO MAKE SURE TO BRING EVERYBODY THAT WORKS FOR THAT COACHING BUG WITH HIM DOWN FOR SURE
2021-09-10 14:59
1 reply
the ceo himself said there's no evidence and this has been goiung on for a long time it's very likely he pulled it out of his ass
2021-09-16 20:04
#723
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Germany who|cars
cmon bruh fast give us all xiters name sad volvo cant fix xiters in matchmaking, and now xiters already got place in proscene
2021-09-11 04:10
#724
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Austria doMK0
So whats the reason to present this evidence now? Revenge? Doesnt speak for his character imo. We dont know yet how the players were involved, or if he pressured them into using this bug... etc. Just dont jump on the blame train prematurely.
2021-09-13 17:08
This is so typical Danish. There are 37 coaches banned including NAVI, Faze, Furia, Mousesports and OG. Nobody gives a shit, but the Danish media are so hyped that Hunden used the bug in 2 games that they have made it their prime goal to take them down. They deserve all the ban coming to them, but please ban the other 150 players who also knew all along.
2021-09-14 10:27
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