FalleN: "I was a little bit out of the meta for a while"

Gabriel "⁠FalleN⁠" Toledo and Jake "⁠Stewie2K⁠" Yip are working closely together in leading Liquid, the team says.

In a press conference ahead of the ESL Pro League playoffs, Liquid spoke on many topics about their team, recent performances, and specifically about the in-game leading duties within the squad. The team revealed that FalleN is now the primary IGL for the lineup and that Stewie2K still contributes with mid-round calls quite often.

FalleN feels like he had some catching up to do

One of the main topics of the conference was the topic of leadership within the team, and how Liquid has been adapting since adding FalleN and Eric "⁠adreN⁠" Hoag to the lineup. "I think when FalleN first joined, we made the switch initially just to see how it feels, and before, I would still kinda chime in and try to help," said Stewie2K when explaining the team's choice of leader. "Eventually, FalleN kinda wanted to go back, and I felt like it might be better for me to call too."

FalleN went on to explain that after his time playing with MIBR, he was behind on the meta, and hadn't evolved enough to stay successful as an IGL. "From my last two years playing on MIBR and playing different teams, I felt like I was a little bit out of the meta for a while, in a sense where other teams evolved faster than us. That's why I needed some time to catch up."

After a couple months, FalleN and the team decided that he had learned enough about how they play to be able to take the reigns, and chose to bring him back into the leader role beginning at ESL Pro League. "This time around I feel I'm just letting him do everything he can, but we'll do it the way he wants and we'll let it pan out and see how it goes. I also give my two cents here and there and try to help as much as possible" added Stewie2K.

The topic of Liquid's preparation for events as well as the quality of practice within North America was also a topic touched on. "We've been traveling to Europe almost every single month to be honest," FalleN explained regarding Liquid's relative inactivity over the past couple months. Jonathan "⁠EliGE⁠" Jablonowski also chimed in with some commentary about the North American scene after so many players have left. "It makes it really tough to just practice in NA a lot, because a lot of the players are bad, and they're not going to get a lot better for a long time"

Grim has grown a lot since joining Liquid

"Pretty much the only way to get better right now is to come to EU to play against these teams and that comes with its own difficulties," EliGE said. Michael "⁠Grim⁠" Wince also commented on his time before joining Liquid, claiming that practice against European teams was essential to his growth as a player. "I feel like practicing against the European teams has helped a lot really, to discover mistakes in my game, compared to NA since the practice isn't as good." He also talked about how he has learned to be more of a team player that works with his teammates. "I'd definitely say [I'm] becoming more of a team player than I was in the past."

The team also had some things to say about Pro League, discussing their group stage performance and what they expect from the playoffs. Many people see their run as unexpected, and Stewie2K somewhat agrees. "I think after playing against Gambit that kinda shows we can compete against the best teams." However, FalleN countered Stewie's confidence by asking "did you expect it though? Before we started." to which Stewie responded "before we started, no. But going into it, yes."

adreN mirrored Stewie2K's confidence in their play. "I feel like we have a pretty good read on how [Gambit] play and how they react. ...We just didn't have a deep enough playbook yet on Mirage."

The other notable match during Liquid's group stage run was against FURIA, which saw the American side barely take the victory in a very close series. Stewie2K praised the Brazilian team, saying that they didn't change their game plan just because they had a stand-in. "I think if they had their actual five they would have done a lot more damage here [and] probably even made it into the playoffs, I think they played well. I think they still played the same way they would have with their five."

Looking toward the playoffs, Liquid are confident, and believe that fnatic still have a ways to go before they become consistent. "Their biggest weakness is that they're a new roster and they're not too well practiced," adreN explained, "We're gonna have to be on our game, and have some good prep as well. But I think we're confident in beating them."

NAVI are on the brink of winning the Intel Grand Slam

After fnatic, Liquid would have to face off Heroic, who made it through Group A without dropping a series. And assuming that Natus Vincere won their quarterfinal, the Russian side would be waiting for Liquid if they managed to take down Heroic. Keith "⁠NAF⁠" Markovic commented on the two teams, saying that both are very strong, and adding that NAVI are one win away from winning the third Intel Grand Slam. "I know the feeling of when you're really close to winning a Grand Slam. It honestly feels like you're unstoppable and you're not gonna let anyone take it away from you."

The Canadian player also added that he would like to face Natus Vincere in the semifinals. "I hope we can [...] play NAVI and deny them the Grand Slam, I think that would be really fun."

Liquid's match against fnatic in the EPL playoffs will take place on Wednesday, September 8, after the conclusion of the game between forZe and ENCE.

United States Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1476
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.68
Brazil Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Age:
30
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
1430
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.60
Canada Keith 'NAF' Markovic
Keith 'NAF' Markovic
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1437
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.63
United States Eric 'adreN' Hoag
Eric 'adreN' Hoag
Age:
31
Team:
United States Michael 'Grim' Wince
Michael 'Grim' Wince
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
756
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.68
United States Jake 'Stewie2K' Yip
Jake 'Stewie2K' Yip
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
1412
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.68
but he is back now!
2021-09-07 23:49
30 replies
#2
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Brazil Dengozo
+1 FALLEN GOAT
2021-09-07 23:50
2 replies
#35
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Sweden Madrigals1
The domestic goat or simply goat (Capra hircus or Capra aegagrus hircus) is a domesticated species of goat-antelope typically kept as livestock.
2021-09-08 00:22
1 reply
Angoora goat
2021-09-08 06:29
+1 FALLEN GOAT
2021-09-07 23:50
+1 FALLEN GOAT
2021-09-07 23:53
+1 FALLEN GOAT
2021-09-08 00:02
+1 FALLEN GOAT
2021-09-08 00:03
#29
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Poland sylwek1021
+1
2021-09-08 00:09
+1 FALLEN GOAT
2021-09-08 00:09
#39
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Czech Republic manik999
+1111
2021-09-08 00:27
#49
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Europe GumGuyHLTV
+1 FALLEN GOAT
2021-09-08 00:46
GOAT
2021-09-08 03:05
FALLEN GOAT
2021-09-08 03:13
+1 FALLEN GOAT
2021-09-08 05:27
+1 FALLEN GOAT
2021-09-08 05:35
BEAST but a bolsominion, his vote was a bad decision like revives mibr
2021-09-08 16:41
13 replies
better bozominion that helps many people, than leftist militant hypocrite alienated
2021-09-08 18:21
2 replies
Help many people??? With what ? He donates his fortune ? I think is a cancer, he uses his influence to add what, a retarded as president. And now what? The worst unemployment and crazy death rate. I'm not even leftist, and I can say that you worst then leftists is for sure bolsoburros and church people.
2021-09-08 19:31
1 reply
I was talking about the fallen, animal
2021-09-17 14:55
any sane person would vote for Bolsonaro if the election was between him and Haddad/Dilma/Lula, but the guy isn't that better either
2021-09-09 03:10
9 replies
Omegalul anything even tiririca would be a better option. That's why I go out of Brasil, too many monkeys
2021-09-10 18:58
And my uncle died from the cloroquina, so fuck you
2021-09-11 04:29
7 replies
you surely have a peanut brain huh, good nickname I guess, well that's was to be expected for someone that follows media to the core and believe that Brazil is was it is just bcuz of bolsonaro, for them is hard to get what the problem really is, it's easy to just tell that is Bolsonaro's fault and that he is fascist, etc... and dying bcuz of cloroquina? That's like saying that someone died bcuz of antibiotics, possible, but someone in there has to have a peanut brain to made it happen...
2021-09-11 19:38
6 replies
Lol just stopped on "media". I don't watch television for more than 10 years, and you should be reallllly stupid to believe in all that shit you said instead of numbers. 500k deaths and worst economy ever. Sadly is just me that got out of that jungle. Hope I can bring my family in the future out of this shit hole. It's sad how the population is trying so hard to self destruct their own country
2021-09-12 15:43
2 replies
"worst economy ever" lol looks like someone need some history classes, do you even know how Brazil was before the "Plano Real"? Not to say the shits happening on Argentina when they tried to ellect their Lula(Christina) for more one time. Of course Bolsonaro is not the best option, he is just like Dilma, dumb asf, say things that shouldn't being said and he is bad in form alliances even so I think that Lula would do even worst, not doubt about it(that is why I highly disagree with you that even tiririca would be a better president). And about Cloroquina, that was a common medicament 'till some time ago, my own mother has to took a medicament based in cloroquina bcuz of her desease, but just like any medicament is a type of drug you'll need to be careful (with dosages, etc), if you took it just like you eat a candy is pretty clear that things will go south.
2021-09-13 15:56
1 reply
I never said lula was a god, I never said that dilma was a good option. I never said the real FHC was bad. I just know the country is super bad right now and I doubt that haddad would make this bad as this stupid guy made. I just know that people are dying from cloroquine. I don't understand why BR's think this shit is a football match where they need to choose left vs right instead of use logic. Anyways, thanks to reminder me why I would never return to banana country.
2021-09-13 17:43
Btw my wife aunt was a dumb bolsonarist and took cloroquina even she didn't had covid. She died of heart attack. Pretty pathetic. I don't think bozo is racist blablabla, he is just retarded, as all of you that can't see more than just left vs right
2021-09-12 16:29
2 replies
bla bla bla!! bye bye militant hypocrite alienated. u come military on hltv, u really are lost. Do you really think someone is interested in your hypocritical narrative? go to work kid, here is about cs, no polity
2021-09-17 15:00
1 reply
Bye bye good luck with this shit country and your monkey banana friends. LoL
2021-09-20 01:36
+1 FALLEN GOAT
2021-09-09 18:50
#3
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Brazil Dengozo
GOAT
2021-09-07 23:50
#7
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Canada firtlast
the current meta sucks! where is my m249 meta?
2021-09-07 23:51
5 replies
#51
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Andorra amongus
+1 Bring back Revolver and scoped guns meta.
2021-09-08 00:58
4 replies
the aug and sg being op was dumb but I think it would be cool if they found a way to give those weapons more of a purpose so that we'd see more augs and sgs.
2021-09-08 02:21
3 replies
#84
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Andorra amongus
If pros used aug and sg at the same meta, i think that both guns wouldn't receive a massive nerf, i just miss the sg :(
2021-09-08 04:46
The AUG is really good tho
2021-09-08 08:58
both guns are in a good place imo. Krieg does need a bit of a buff maybe increase accuracy a bit
2021-09-08 09:47
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Spain Tool40
Out at quarters imo
2021-09-07 23:51
1 reply
#113
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Russia Teddy8ear
I think they are likely out at semis, but they definitely could surprise
2021-09-08 10:49
damn bot
2021-09-07 23:52
1 reply
Carrying LAC on his back. You should be thankful.
2021-09-08 03:05
don't car. washed
2021-09-07 23:52
1 reply
According to my HLTV sources , cry is free Sir
2021-09-08 00:28
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Brazil Lostty
the master mind <3
2021-09-07 23:52
1 reply
hltv.org/stats/players/2023/fallen?start.. with awp btw kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2021-09-17 15:02
big n00b!!!
2021-09-07 23:54
2 replies
wtf
2021-09-07 23:54
" Everything checks out " ~ Ghandi
2021-09-08 00:29
<3 legend
2021-09-07 23:54
#18
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Latvia HiImRenars
what meta LUL
2021-09-07 23:54
and you still
2021-09-07 23:55
goat back?!
2021-09-07 23:55
gl mens!
2021-09-07 23:58
#22
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Brazil qrii
mens((( can we go back to the old text format? pure interview like interviewer: do u like apples player: yeah, like, a lot
2021-09-07 23:59
5 replies
+1
2021-09-08 00:47
It's because it is a press conference, where a bunch of different journalists are all asking their own questions. When it's a 1 on 1 thing where only one party is asking the questions there will be a better focus and flow
2021-09-08 02:07
1 reply
#61
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Brazil qrii
ooooooh i see... thanks for replying
2021-09-08 02:12
Snax : I are hungry
2021-09-08 06:47
1 reply
The big apple and snax are hungry.
2021-09-08 10:22
#23
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United States hellokappa
liquid will win Stockholm major. bookmark this comment
2021-09-08 00:00
5 replies
#36
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United States 3manu3l
NAVI will win, but liquid will bring one hell of a show
2021-09-08 00:24
2 replies
Liquid will wreck the other side of the bracket and get smacked by NaVi
2021-09-08 02:21
yes, in a group stage where they will be out after 1-3
2021-09-08 08:44
nt godsutaaa gonna shit all over everyone and lift the major!
2021-09-08 00:40
no! also why are you saying hi to me?
2021-09-08 02:04
nice interview
2021-09-08 00:01
#26
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United States okuulanda
guerri ;_;
2021-09-08 00:03
#28
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Colombia AlejoBuh
a while means since 2018
2021-09-08 00:03
so from 2018-2021 half 1? nice joke
2021-09-08 00:10
NAF <3
2021-09-08 00:14
1 reply
#34
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Brazil azenhauer
+1, nice line at the end
2021-09-08 00:20
Wallen IGL is back boysssssssssssss
2021-09-08 00:18
he is amazing dude mens, I love him <3
2021-09-08 00:26
fallen the fucking best, lets fking go
2021-09-08 00:27
fallen off?
2021-09-08 00:28
"It makes it really tough to just practice in NA a lot, because a lot of the players are bad, and they're not going to get a lot better for a long time" xD fax though
2021-09-08 00:32
"meta" in a game that had no changes since R8 release (and it changed meta for like 1 month until its nerf).
2021-09-08 01:57
5 replies
compare 2020 to 2021 and you'll see significant changes even tho nothing changed
2021-09-08 02:13
Clearly you are a Valorant enjoyer. You didn't see CIS basically rebuild the entire meta from scratch this year, basically... and online strats in 2020. And so much more.
2021-09-08 03:02
#79
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Japan PKcrash
by "meta' he most likely means meta within different positions, ways of defaulting, and economy management. Not weapon meta.
2021-09-08 03:28
1 reply
for valorant players is mostly about changing the random seeds of the guns recoils, any idiot can land good shots there with random recoil. Or maybe, the meta is new fluffy powers that are full of bugs and exploits :D
2021-09-08 11:29
it's like saying that football never changed, after all the objective and the number of players was the same ever
2021-09-09 03:11
#63
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World streetson
A little bit like 2 years lol Those failed mibr rosters were playing the same passive, late game heavy style. Those execs with 15 seconds late on the round were a staple of pretty much all of the lineups. Glad he is back tho, not easy for a player like fallen to be humble like that and take time to improve his game
2021-09-08 02:17
6 replies
“Failed mibr” Major semifinal 2018 The only team who compete with Astralis in 2018
2021-09-08 03:16
5 replies
The only team who could compete with Astralis in 2018 was Liquid
2021-09-08 04:50
3 replies
#86
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Brazil Anarchybr
That was 2019
2021-09-08 04:53
1 reply
nah 2018 also, Astralis met Liquid in 5 tournament finals in 2018 (and won them all lol) that was waay more than any other team they met that year
2021-09-08 04:55
navi
2021-09-08 05:37
#97
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World streetson
if you actually think that you are delusional
2021-09-08 06:30
ye a little bit like 4-5 years
2021-09-08 02:33
1 reply
#71
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World streetson
lol exactly
2021-09-08 03:03
Respect the legend.
2021-09-08 02:59
#74
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France PqSxd
huge respect
2021-09-08 03:06
Great, gl!
2021-09-08 03:39
#82
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United States ScanDull
Liquid effectively has two IGLs now, FalleN for calling strats and anti-stratting enemy teams, and Stewie for calling mid-round especially off his (sometimes sacrificial) info plays.
2021-09-08 03:55
2 replies
I think this setup is going to work pretty well, esp if you guys have been listening in to their voice comms. They are looking good.
2021-09-08 08:18
1 reply
#129
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United States ScanDull
Oh yeah, I definitely agree. This is honestly the best Liquid have looked since their dominant streak in 2019 ended.
2021-09-08 19:25
fallen looking pretty good lately keep it up champ
2021-09-08 04:13
#87
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Brazil Anarchybr
So happy for him
2021-09-08 04:54
nice blog! i wish good things for this team
2021-09-08 06:00
What a clownshow
2021-09-08 06:06
Fallen haters malding
2021-09-08 06:46
#100
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Russia karnage7x
sad to say but old bones
2021-09-08 07:09
What is meta in cs? There are 0 updates lmao, how can meta changes
2021-09-08 08:24
3 replies
How does it change in football? You don't have to answer.
2021-09-08 08:34
2 replies
+1
2021-09-08 09:01
#115
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Slovakia lukac656
That only makes sense if you dont think about it.
2021-09-08 11:30
They will beat fnatic but I don't think they have a chance against Heroic, let's see.
2021-09-08 09:07
I’ve been out of meta since they changed the gun sound
2021-09-08 09:35
wallen are back
2021-09-08 11:38
PROFESSOR FALLEN
2021-09-08 11:59
Liquid improved a lot with fallen igl
2021-09-08 13:20
1 reply
i.imgur.com/MaZDvY3.png how is this an improvement
2021-09-17 15:07
The king wasn't dead, he just returned.
2021-09-08 14:14
yeah i think it was not just a bit, referring to mibr in 2019 and 20, many skilled players but could not make anything of it.
2021-09-08 15:32
#125
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United States xiquo
yeah we knew that. glad to see fallen is getting better.
2021-09-08 16:36
He is back.
2021-09-08 22:53
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