floppy: "Playing VALORANT has made me appreciate CS a lot more"

Ahead of Extra Salt's appearance at ESL Pro League Season 15 Conference, Ricky "⁠floppy⁠" Kemery spoke to HLTV about his return to CS:GO and time away.

One of North America's standout prospects in past years, floppy's Counter-Strike career seemingly came to an early end in March when Cloud9's 'Colossus' lineup folded and the organisation withdrew from CS:GO.

The 21-year-old rifler soon switched over to play for Cloud9 Blue in VALORANT alongside Erick "⁠Xeppaa⁠" Bach, but his time in that game was limited, lasting just five months before he and the organisation parted ways. A burnout from competitive FPS games led to floppy taking a short break, but soon after he was again spotted practicing CS:GO, and in October, he returned to playing alongside Johnny "⁠JT⁠" Theodosiou and Josh "⁠oSee⁠" Ohm on Extra Salt.

floppy is enjoying playing CS again after a short break

Even with floppy's addition though, Extra Salt have struggled to secure tournament wins in recent months, falling to Party Astronauts in the grand final of ESEA Premier Season 38 and iBUYPOWER Mythic Masters. The loss in the former tournament led to missing out on a direct spot in ESL Pro League Season 15, and the team are now left to fight for one of three spots in the event as they take part in the Conference division from a bootcamp in Germany, with matches set to start on November 23.

With the start of the event mere days away, floppy briefly spoke to HLTV about making a return to CS:GO, touched upon his time with the Colossus, and gave his thoughts on playing his first tournament in Europe in over eight months.

First off, welcome back. You stepped back from CS after the Cloud9 Colossus disbanded and went to VALORANT, how was that time away for you and what ultimately brought you back to CS?

Thank you, I am much happier playing CS. Especially with my good friends on Extra Salt. I think it was good for me to take a step back from CS for a little bit since I was feeling a little burnt out from playing. Playing VALORANT has made me appreciate CS a lot more. Being able to punish noobs for making mistakes in CS is a lot more satisfying than getting owned by noobs in VALORANT since the skill floor is so much higher in that game.

Now that you’re back, how does it feel to play CS again? Did you feel like you had any catching up to do with the meta, or how the game might be played in Europe as you prepare to head there?

Coming back to CS, It feels like I never left to be honest. The only catching up that I’ve had to do was to learn Ancient. I don’t think the meta has drastically changed that much since I’ve been gone. I’ve watched CS off and on while playing VALORANT anyway to keep a little updated on the game we all love.

Going back a bit to the aforementioned Colossus, some of the difficulties that roster faced have been talked about by a few former members at this point. How was it for you personally during that time?

I think initially it was rough after making roster changes in the first couple of months. The biggest problem was the AWP role in my opinion. With the current meta you need a really strong AWP on the team to be the best team internationally. Unfortunately things didn’t work out but that’s life.

I learned a lot about myself from that team and am glad to have played with the squad. For me personally it was my first time living by myself as well as in a foreign country. It was definitely a learning experience and was difficult to adjust to. I think bringing Xeppaa with me to Serbia helped quite a bit mentally since he's my friend I've known for a long time.

Obviously you’ve reunited with oSee and JT on Extra Salt here, and are playing with FaNg and MarKE for the first time. What’s it like being back together with two of your former teammates, and what’s your impression of FaNg specifically given his rise over this year?

It’s nice to be with my good friends Johnny and Josh again, I've missed them dearly. I think Justin has gotten so much better in the last year, and it’s amazing progress to see. He grinds the game, watches a lot of matches, and puts in a lot of effort which I respect. I also think MarkE is a very good anchor with massive fragging power. He don’t miss!

How has playing for Extra Salt been, compared to some of your past organizations? You’re already at the team’s apartments, I believe.

Playing for Extra Salt has been fantastic. I’ve felt very welcomed to be part of the organization and they’ve settled me in the team apartments here in Texas.

The outlook of the scene, and specifically NA, has changed significantly over the last two years. You don’t usually hold back when voicing your opinion on things you take issue with, so I’m curious as to what your thoughts are on the state of the scene right now, both internationally and domestically?

My thoughts on the NA scene are that it can potentially recover over some time. It’s not like a majority of the players that switched to VALORANT would ever do anything internationally in CS anyway. I think that the major viewership and sticker money will help bring some NA orgs back to invest, it’s a matter of time. Some more players might even come back, we’ll see.

You’re headed to Europe for EPL S15 Conference this week. There are only three spots in the main league up for grabs and you haven’t had much European practice since your return, so how’re you feeling individually about your chances of making it through?

Individually I’m ready to go back to Europe and frag out again. I wish the event was on LAN, it’s been a while since my last LAN at Flashpoint 1, but that’s okay. I think we’re a strong team that can qualify for EPL. All that matters is we try our best to make it.

United States Josh 'oSee' Ohm
Josh 'oSee' Ohm
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.11
Maps played:
982
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.63
United States Ricky 'floppy' Kemery
Ricky 'floppy' Kemery
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
699
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.66
South Africa Johnny 'JT' Theodosiou
Johnny 'JT' Theodosiou
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.96
Maps played:
947
KPR:
0.65
DPR:
0.67
United States Erick 'Xeppaa' Bach
Erick 'Xeppaa' Bach
Age:
21
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
367
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.68
same here tbh
2021-11-22 20:35
22 replies
#9
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Other the_dark
same
2021-11-22 20:37
4 replies
+1 valorant way too complicated
2021-11-22 23:15
3 replies
+1 cs is a gunfight game not like valorant
2021-11-22 23:17
1 reply
Flopster with straight up fire and facts!!!!
2021-11-23 02:53
Lol play your hentai game. You think Valorant is much harder, I'm kidding! With a character who has a whallack that throws smokes from a distance. Strats level cs is much more interesting than a Valorant.
2021-11-23 11:04
same
2021-11-22 21:42
same
2021-11-22 22:42
cope
2021-11-22 23:12
#206
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Sweden piCt
Them are going for them juicy headlines. I played pubg a while ago. Made me appreciate CS a lot.
2021-11-22 23:35
#228
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Brazil nempk1
+1
2021-11-23 00:57
9 replies
he ain't wrong if we talking casually.
2021-11-23 02:34
1 reply
The movement and gunplay are clunky AF. It's not fun at all imo.
2021-11-23 09:39
Debatable
2021-11-23 03:18
VALORANT is fun if I want to chill, but man CS:GO's competitiveness hits diff
2021-11-23 08:26
4 replies
+1
2021-11-23 11:05
+1
2021-11-23 16:20
8/8
2021-11-23 18:48
+1
2021-11-24 07:24
He was on the copium.
2021-11-23 11:06
#272
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African Union Zollbit
+1
2021-11-23 06:32
same
2021-11-23 10:22
boss
2021-11-22 20:36
1 reply
savage
2021-11-22 22:41
#3
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Peru TenoriPEEK
im agree , valorant is pay to win
2021-11-22 20:36
34 replies
#147
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Uzbekistan gafurman
This is actually true, unfortunately. You get a vandal that "feels and sounds" comfortable and you hit 9 bullets out of 10 in their heads
2021-11-22 22:08
2 replies
It's pay to lose I've seen operator skins that block half of your screen when you scope in
2021-11-23 01:27
#283
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Asia aref81
probably the most ridiculous thing that i ve heard since last month
2021-11-23 08:29
#223
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Norway BijeaN
LOOOOL literally in no shape or form p2w.. dumbest shit ive read in a long time
2021-11-23 00:28
30 replies
#237
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United States Azaqa
u have to pay for better characters tbf, so for low hours players they have instant disadvantage unless they pay for characters
2021-11-23 02:02
29 replies
correct me if I'm wrong, but players can unlock new characters by getting xp in the game right? and they get to choose which few characters they want to be unlocked in the game when they first started. The only pay players make as far as I know is for buying skins and nothing more
2021-11-23 02:45
8 replies
Characters can be unlocked with xp if you can grind a lot
2021-11-23 02:54
4 replies
Reminds me of the most downvoted comment on reddit
2021-11-23 06:48
3 replies
Link?
2021-11-23 13:33
2 replies
the one about star wars battlefront where EA replied
2021-11-23 18:35
1 reply
Got it
2021-11-24 06:11
if i have to play for 50 hours until i can finally play the good agent that gets nerfed immediately after i buy it, and then another once comes out a few months later, what's the point
2021-11-23 03:46
#259
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United States Azaqa
like I said low hours players, it takes a ton of grinding to unlock a lot of characters. You can unlock like 2 early on and then after that its 50+ hours to unlock each new one.
2021-11-23 03:52
1 reply
imagine grinding for 50 hours playing a character you don't like then once you unlock the character you do like you find out your playstyle doesn't fit with that character lmao
2021-11-23 08:32
I read the same BS about lol being p2w. If you play the game consistently you will always have all agents/champions unlocked unless if you are so casual that you only plays bo more than 2 games per week so having all the agents wouldnt matter because you are still learning mechanical aspect of the game. Btw there are videos on youtube with people getting Challanger which would be equivalent a FPL on faceit using the champion you get when you create a new account on league of legends.
2021-11-23 05:33
6 replies
What does the second paragraph prove?
2021-11-23 10:32
3 replies
Proves you dont need pay to win :-)
2021-11-23 13:20
2 replies
The only thing it proves is that youre kind of dumb and also you just prove that it is pay2win with your own points. Im sure there is people with disabilities who can do some sports on a pretty high lvl and better than some other non-disabled ppl. does that prove that having two hands is not an advantage? By your logic it does. Also to you and to guys below claiming its not pay2win and being generally stupid and or claiming its pay2fast or however u wanna call it: stop being nitpicky cunts. u know perfectly well what ppl mean by "pay2win". by that they mean that u can pay money for something in-game that will give u an advantage over ppl that did not pay money. if 2 ppl with exactly same skill level join the server and one paid money to receive something that gives him an advantage in the game and therefor wins, then he PAID to WIN. the fact that eventually ull receive those same advantages by playin doesnt make a game NOT play to win. u can ofc talk about the defintion of pay2win and which other terms there are, but generally most ppls definition of pay2win is, u pay money and u gain advantage in game, irregardless of this advantage can be acquired by other means, e.g. grinding. if u can acquire things in game by paying money that u otherwise have to play x amount of hours for then its "pay2win". if there is car race going on and everyone starts with a Dacia and one guy buys a ferrari he paid to win. the fact that he could still lose by being shit and the others being good doesnt make it not pay to win. the fact that eventually one of the drivers will get a ferrari after racing 99 races also doesnt change anything about it.
2021-11-24 04:49
1 reply
You clearly never played this game. If play the game past the tutorial you will have all the champions you need for start, after 2 months playing constantly you have all champions unlocked. The game progression is relative your successful skill at lower level it doesnt matter which champion you play the only thing its matter is the basic machanics. By the time you need to spend to learn one champion you are accumulated enough coins to purchase two more. By the time you get into the competitive scene ladderboard you already have all the champions needed. Another thing is if you are an entry fragger you dont need to unlock support characters so basically you just need to have the ones that fit your play style and of course you will eliminate characters that are completely out of the meta. And of course if you buy a ferrari and dont know how to drive you will die, best advice is learn how to drive first before blaming your car.
2021-11-24 06:10
#393
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United States Azaqa
New players are literally at a disadvantage in league and not just due to skill
2021-11-24 05:20
1 reply
Relax bro if you are a new player you will be paired only with new players. Both sides will be playing with champions that they are completely clueless on what they are doing :-)
2021-11-24 06:16
#271
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Mexico GiPaD
So is a Pay2fast not a Pay2win
2021-11-23 06:15
you are really stupid. if you actually played valorant you would know that you can unlock them through xp. and just cause you buy an agent doesn't mean you will automatically be the best in the server dumbass.
2021-11-24 00:01
11 replies
only cos u pay for something which gives u an advantage and u still manage to suck doesnt mean that u didnt gain an advantage by paying money. what kind of absolute imbecile logic and argument is that? by that logic cheating is fine as long as u lose. he was wallhacking, but who cares, he lost, so its fine. he lost even tho cheating, he didnt have an advantage. if 2 ppl with same skill lvl start the game and one can spend money to gain an advantage which increases his chances of winning then u PAID money to WIN. if u win or not doesnt matter, but u paid money to increase your chances of winning. ofc if u wanna be nitpicky cunt u can discuss the definition of pay2win and which other terms are there, but the general gamers definition of pay2win is, u pay money to advance in the game or get an advantage over other players. the fact you can grind the game and eventually gain the same advantage doesnt change the fact that there is still pay2win involved. pay2win is exactly that. making it attractive for ppl to spend money by giving them an advantage over others. be it to win or to progress faster. same fucking shit. just seems to me the only ppl claiming its not pay2win are just butthurt valorant fanboys who cant accept that its pay2win. if its not pay2win then why can u buy yourself an advantage in-game for money? the only advantage in csgo that u can buy for money are cheats. that is the difference between pay2win (pay2fast whatever u wanna call it u fucking anal cunts) and not pay2 anything.
2021-11-24 04:58
2 replies
Sup retard, What my fellow friend is trying to explain to you is that having all the characters unlocked is not an advantage on low level because you still didnt have enough time to master, so you will win much more matches if you stick with only one character. PLAYING with a character that you do not dominate is a disadvantage and you will loose the match or get lucky and be carried. If you are good enough to play with multiple characters you already accumulated all the coins you need to buy them.
2021-11-24 06:26
Most Germans I met were nice and reasonable, but holy shitt you sound like a total nazzi
2021-11-25 20:43
#392
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United States Azaqa
I literally said that its only for low hours players, its p2w at low levels
2021-11-24 05:19
7 replies
as a person who has played val since beta, I can tell you that is cap. there is still a skill gap to learning each agent. hell even a "d-tier " agent can still do better than an "s-tier" agent. it solely depends on the person playing it. the game isn't only reliant on abilities. its also reliant on aim and game sense. same as cs.
2021-11-25 20:45
6 replies
#403
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United States Azaqa
"since beta" yea you unlocked them as they came out KEKW, my point is that if a player downloaded for the first time today they have a big disadvantage compared to current players and not just due to skill. Also the game relies very little on game sense, more just aim.
2021-11-25 22:23
5 replies
they dont have a disadvantage if they know how to play an agent. just cause you have all agents unlocked doesn't mean anything. it depends on the person playing the agent. i.e. gamesense and experience in knowing what it is you are doing.
2021-11-25 23:10
4 replies
#406
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United States Azaqa
You're telling me they dont have a disadvantage being forced to play brim and phoenix and shit? No omen no astra no reyna no jett no good characters other than sova which ofc is hardest agent to use
2021-11-25 23:15
3 replies
no, literally brim is as good if not better than omen. as well as you can do a lot and take a lot of space w/phoenix. and you get Jett as a starting agent you retard. also the fact that you get to unlock two free agents after completing the new player pass.
2021-11-26 21:21
2 replies
#409
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United States Azaqa
Yes as good if not better which is why literally like 2 pros use brim while every team has an astra or omen. Phoenix is played by nobody, is useless, and hard to use for new players. Ok so you get jett, great, you probably dont even get to play it because of instalockers
2021-11-26 21:56
1 reply
pro play != pug play. that's common sense. what pros do and pug players do are 2 different things. if that were the case then every pro would win every pug match. and Astra is not needed from plat and lower. but for high-level gameplay yes she is needed. to end all of this just cause you buy an AWP that doesn't mean you win the round. there are multiple factors that make a round/game win other than that AWP. same thing with valorant. just cause you get a pro lineup of Astra, Jett, Reyna,kj, and sova doesn't mean you will win that match. it depends on whether you can actually do your job with that character or not
2021-11-26 23:01
Title sounds like playing valorant professionally was torture for floppy lul
2021-11-22 20:37
37 replies
#17
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United Kingdom Triturn
I think valorant will die like overwatch
2021-11-22 20:39
35 replies
I disagree. blizzard are 10x more braindead than riot. plus riot are the best at marketing a game to asia
2021-11-22 20:42
34 replies
#40
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United Kingdom Triturn
I just checked and overwatch has more live players than valorant lmao
2021-11-22 20:44
33 replies
How the fuck?
2021-11-22 20:53
22 replies
16 replies
VALORANT has 800k players rn evreyday playercounter.com/valorant/ OWL has 700k or 600k playercounter.com/overwatch/
2021-11-22 21:01
14 replies
your link like generate random number every time you click on button xD
2021-11-22 21:33
7 replies
+1 lmao
2021-11-22 22:10
#160
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Germany xSchons
lol
2021-11-22 22:20
#167
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Taiwan ilkym00th
lmao both of your links are bullshit
2021-11-22 22:30
4 replies
i didn't send any link, nt
2021-11-22 22:37
3 replies
#171
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Taiwan ilkym00th
i replied to the wrong comment nt
2021-11-22 22:39
2 replies
you definetly replied to me, nt :)
2021-11-22 22:40
1 reply
Stfu you're stupid if you don't understand what he mean
2021-11-23 19:24
#244
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Ukraine ksay
the only official number of players Riot gave us is 14mil per month (July). It's been in the slight decline since then. for example CS has 32+mil monthly players constantly (public info) i doubt your shitty website is even remotly close lmao. number they show is based on activity from platforms like youtube/twitch/reddit where Val is inflated af
2021-11-23 02:54
4 replies
#354
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Germany yaGmi
idk look at the monthly players its exactly how you said
2021-11-23 12:14
3 replies
#367
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Ukraine ksay
dude how can cs has lower current players with more than 2x bigger monthly
2021-11-23 17:14
2 replies
#368
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Germany yaGmi
? valorant= 60k cs= 400k
2021-11-23 17:40
1 reply
#370
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Ukraine ksay
2021-11-23 17:50
#260
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Portugal antCB
even if those numbers were remotely true. Remember Overwatch is a 40€ game (15€ now cause of black friday) vs f2p.
2021-11-23 03:59
dude the numbers change by 100,000 in a matter of a second if I re-click the link. No way that is a legit site lmao
2021-11-22 23:34
overwatch has the advantage of console players valorant hasn't even been officially released yet in china i think? with the new laws they can't even release it now lmao game is mainly big in NA imo, i've had a few classmates who played valorant in low-mid ranks and it took quite some time for them to even find a match
2021-11-22 20:57
4 replies
Yeah the que times are absurd even if you 5 stack it, especially in the higher ranks. Literally takes 5 minutes minimum to find a game.
2021-11-22 21:05
thanks for explaining mens)
2021-11-22 21:10
1 reply
no problem mens ))))
2021-11-22 21:36
Pretty big in asia actaually especially in south korea
2021-11-25 20:50
#72
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Peru tosta
do you really trust the liveplayer website? they just make up numbers they have no real access to overwatch's or valorant's numbers
2021-11-22 20:53
7 replies
#76
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United Kingdom Triturn
well the csgo one matches steam statistics
2021-11-22 20:54
2 replies
#80
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Peru tosta
of course because those numbers are public steam just releases those for anyone to see for games like fortnite, valorant, overwatch and others that arent available on steam they just make up shit
2021-11-22 20:56
Ofc because CS numbers are public and easily accessible whilst Riot has made a point of not showing the details they don't want to release to the public
2021-11-22 21:15
VALORANT 800K not 100k playercounter.com/valorant/
2021-11-22 21:03
3 replies
#162
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Germany xSchons
hit refresh on that site, it just generates a random number
2021-11-22 22:21
1 reply
yes that is real time players and sometime its 760K 824k or someshit =)
2021-11-22 22:26
its fake, generates random number as you click update
2021-11-22 22:40
whered u see this lol, i dont think riot or blizzard make their player counts public so anything you see might not even be close I saw a site that does these estimates on player counts but they did it for cs and even though those stats are available from steam they were pretty far off
2021-11-22 20:55
People forget that Overwatch is still pretty big in Korea. Valorant flopped in Korea. They have a pro scene but the casual playerbase isn’t that big compared to other games.
2021-11-22 21:59
Probably was
2021-11-22 20:44
#5
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Brazil parrud0www
what is the new?
2021-11-22 20:37
#6
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Belgium Woke!
Props to floppy for not giving up and also doing and interview knowing the hate that will come
2021-11-22 20:37
3 replies
+1 Chad Floppy
2021-11-22 20:45
He was pretty savage about the NA folk that moved to Valorant, but he had a point. The real issue is it created a massive gap between the best NA teams and the T2/3 up-and-comers
2021-11-22 22:53
#362
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United States DudeGuy96
Where's the hate?
2021-11-23 14:16
#7
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Poland coniasty
valo is shit
2021-11-22 20:37
#10
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Sweden KennyKEX
LOL
2021-11-22 20:38
1 reply
LMAO
2021-11-22 22:43
#11
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Greece RedWinter
basado
2021-11-22 20:38
#12
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Poland sznycel901
based
2021-11-22 20:38
#13
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North America ClassyOne
based
2021-11-22 20:38
Here it comes - Valorant outcasts going tier 2/tier 1 in CSGO and bashing Valorant because they failed Valorant.
2021-11-22 20:38
18 replies
#19
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Estonia ZedarZ
More like washed cs players going tier1 in Valulrant, Floppy only went to Valorant because of the NA scene at that time...
2021-11-22 20:40
13 replies
"Floppy only went to Valorant because of the NA scene at that time" - You are right. He moved because the entire scene basically did. He is washed up in Valorant (despite being a CSGO pro which means nothing there) and now comes back to safety 👌
2021-11-22 20:43
10 replies
no, he came back because he didn't feel the same love for Val as he did with CS. It was obvious since the beginning, he's not washed up at all
2021-11-22 20:45
8 replies
hes tier 2 or 3 in val lmao man said not washed up
2021-11-22 20:49
7 replies
nah he was t1 material
2021-11-22 20:50
3 replies
he was dogshit in valorant vlr.gg/player/14131/floppy
2021-11-22 20:53
Stop the cap
2021-11-22 22:12
1 reply
2021-11-22 22:18
#62
ropz | 
Estonia ZedarZ
acting like some of the top val pros weren't washed tier 2 csgo players
2021-11-22 20:50
2 replies
2021-11-22 20:57
1 reply
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2021-11-22 20:59
#110
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United States EDBX
Floppy left because he was in a contract with C9 (most likely with huge buyout) and the team imploded. Only options left are play for C9 Valorant or hope someone will buy him out before contract ends which was basically impossible in the current climate of CS.
2021-11-22 21:16
Who can blame Floppy for that ? Na players were stuck in NA in beginning of COVID, no lans in horizon, no update. It is fun to play cs, but if you cannot live of it. When Cloud9 disband, where floppy can go ? Return extra salt, not back then. and #110 also talk about the buy-out. He was kinda "forced' to go to valorant. He had not many options, except playing without a salary until the end of his buyout. Ropz is playing with no faith in Mouz until the end of his contract. Can you blame him for that ?
2021-11-22 21:21
1 reply
XD? guy literally doesn't have to work for next 5 years
2021-11-22 22:17
#20
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Latvia emzijs
he didnt really fail, he just left early, im sure c9 would have qualified to champs from lcq with him aswell
2021-11-22 20:40
The best VALORANT player had a 0.94 LAN rating against top 50 teams and never participated in a Major. :)
2021-11-22 20:49
He was on one of the best valorant teams in NA, he just didn’t like the game
2021-11-22 21:18
Dude only went to Valorant because he was contracted with c9 and was going to get paid. He left for the money, never put his full dedication and heart into it seems like.
2021-11-22 22:02
#15
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United Kingdom Triturn
valorant will die like overwatch did
2021-11-22 20:39
8 replies
ofc it will, heroes and magic has no place in a high skillceiling fps
2021-11-22 20:42
3 replies
tbf neither does the shit valve try to push in cs like anybody outside of china gives to fuck about an agents backstory lmao
2021-11-22 20:44
2 replies
Even if just 1% likes a backstory to an agent, it still causes for more players to play the game in achieving said agents in operations, buying them or whatever. Bottom line, it's cash for Valve, and it doesn't require a lot of work to implement.
2021-11-22 22:10
1 reply
yeah but they obviuly dont care that there is no going back on any of this kinda shit so they are totally willing to fuck over the competitive scene in the long run for a bit of short term cash kinda sad innit
2021-11-22 22:19
Unless riot puts a lot of money into it
2021-11-22 20:42
2 replies
#34
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United Kingdom Triturn
They can't just keep adding new agents, they're already getting repetitive. All they can add is skins and maps.
2021-11-22 20:43
1 reply
A lot of pug stars careers will be ruined when agent bans are added.
2021-11-22 22:02
“Ow will be the king of esports and fps” “Cs is dead/dying” since 2017 I actually like playing OW. It’s fun to play with friends but every game that comes out has all this generated hype behind it like Valorant. Valorant is super overhyped and I live in the region that likes to rub Valorant in peoples faces for it being the trend game that streamers and kids play.
2021-11-22 22:04
#16
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Finland Eestu
Flopster. <3
2021-11-22 20:39
based
2021-11-22 20:39
based
2021-11-22 20:40
Money<Passion <3 respect
2021-11-22 20:41
hahahahaahah
2021-11-22 20:41
#26
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Estonia rokuomi
Dead game btw
2021-11-22 20:42
NA goat
2021-11-22 20:42
you cant be a good player on valorant if you were a bot in csgo :D Nonamer
2021-11-22 20:42
7 replies
#180
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Greece hekzy
but 95% of valorant pros were bots in csgo
2021-11-22 22:43
5 replies
Best team in Valorant has CS bots on it KEKW
2021-11-23 05:17
4 replies
Who are they? Dont follow valorant
2021-11-23 10:17
3 replies
#378
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Greece hekzy
depending on which team is considered the best. The top4 right now are clearly sentinels, Acend, Liquid and Gambit Gambit has some tier8000000000000000 russians with 0.6 rating on tier69 Acend has like some Zula kid along with tier50 polish and finnish guy Liquid has ScreaM, Nivera and Jamppi alongside some UK cs omegalul ppl. But i think that they are the best, and it's obvious since they have the least washed lineup. Sentinels who dominated for a year straight have... dapr, shahzam, SicK and tenz omegalul
2021-11-23 20:56
2 replies
tbf sick and shazam werent bad at all, especially sick from what i remember but then again last roster i remember sick playing for is TSM so
2021-11-23 23:00
1 reply
#407
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Greece hekzy
he was absolute garbage. check his hltv page. ShahZam was also fucking dogshit.
2021-11-26 17:34
#185
NiKo | 
Serbia Spaso
Look at tenz (:
2021-11-22 22:51
Valo shit.God flopoy confirms!
2021-11-22 20:42
#35
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Brazil urisco
VALULRANT KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
2021-11-22 20:43
Being able to punish noobs for making mistakes in CS is a lot more satisfying than getting owned by noobs in VALORANT since the skill floor is so much higher in that game. Kappa
2021-11-22 20:43
8 replies
he was being ironic
2021-11-22 20:51
6 replies
No he is correct. I think you are confusing skill floor and skill ceiling. Skill ceiling is how good you can get so high skill ceiling is good. Skill floor is how bad you can get so high skill floor is bad.
2021-11-22 21:05
5 replies
I was like wtf until I read it twice lmao
2021-11-22 21:26
#136
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Brazil Anarchybr
How a high skill floor could be bad? If you have a high skill floor this means that nobody is actually bad at that game, the worst player would be mediocre. I think you misunderstood him. He was obviously being ironic.
2021-11-22 21:56
3 replies
no a high skill floor is bad because you dont actualy neeed to be "good at the game" to be good at the game. That means that effort is much less rewarding as with the same skill ceiling the possible skill difference between good and bad players is smaller. By this he is saying that in Csgo he feels that all the he spends playing the game is rewarded while in valorant some noobs can still play "well" because of how much easier he perceives the game to be aka higher skill floor.
2021-11-22 22:06
#245
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
imagine being considerably better than everyone at football when you're 18, then some 7 year old comes and shits on you who usually isn't good at sports. That's what playing Valorant feels like. All these slowing abilities, easy to use blinds and dumb crap that makes your guns shoot slower... losing to bad players who pick non-punishing characters is why a high skill floor is bad for the game, especially since it's gunna get hell of a lot higher.
2021-11-23 02:48
1 reply
#258
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Brazil Anarchybr
Ok now I got it!
2021-11-23 03:52
It's like the OP Aug and Sg era. They made skill floor higher so that noobs like Karrigan or zeus could kill skilled players like Niko on more occasions.
2021-11-23 08:48
VALULRANT KEKW MONKAS OMEGALUL
2021-11-22 20:44
#42
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Brazil uselessz
basedoppy
2021-11-22 20:45
i like both i my love is to csgo so with that said counter strike would you marry me?
2021-11-22 20:45
1 reply
yes!
2021-11-22 22:42
wouldn't be saying that if he had succeed there these tier3 players looking for an easy paycheck
2021-11-22 20:46
5 replies
2021-11-22 20:47
4 replies
if he loved cs he wouldn't have quit in the first place
2021-11-22 20:54
3 replies
Well he wanted to compete at a high level but he didn't want to play for another EU team (not like he would've gotten picked up anyway since NA is dead) so he went to Valorant where clearly he didn't really like it
2021-11-22 21:08
well he was burnt out at the time to be fair
2021-11-22 21:18
well he is stuck with c9's contract at that time
2021-11-23 01:54
tier 2 in VALORANT tier 3 in cs gl
2021-11-22 20:46
2 replies
#58
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United States Phamous3k
He wasn’t tier 2 in Valorant lol
2021-11-22 20:49
1 reply
he was tier 3 ma bad vlr.gg/player/14131/floppy
2021-11-22 20:51
hahahaha
2021-11-22 20:47
#52
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United States hellokappa
lets go flopster
2021-11-22 20:48
#55
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United States Phamous3k
Floppy sucked at Val though lol. I’ll say this… If you’re a die hard Dota player and switched to LoL cuz your region is dead. You’ll definitely appreciate the game you love A LOT more when u return. Honestly this is some clickbait stuff. He hated Valorant from the beginning, signed to a Valorant team, and then shits on it when he leaves lol.
2021-11-22 20:49
#57
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United States $harlen
Kekw
2021-11-22 20:49
"Being able to punish noobs for making mistakes in CS is a lot more satisfying than getting owned by noobs in VALORANT since the skill floor is so much higher in that game" well said floppy, se tenia que decir y se dijo
2021-11-22 20:49
CANT STOP THE FLOP
2021-11-22 20:51
"It’s not like a majority of the players that switched to VALORANT would ever do anything internationally in CS anyway" king
2021-11-22 20:52
he looking big though😯👀🍆🍆🍆🍆
2021-11-22 20:52
1 reply
i think he was bulking back in 2020, he looks much thinner these last few months
2021-11-22 20:53
He is right about italian pride markE, He don’t miss!
2021-11-22 20:55
Unfathomably based
2021-11-22 20:56
#84
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Germany MTD3
goat
2021-11-22 20:57
Respect
2021-11-22 21:00
#87
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Russia ToughGuy
based
2021-11-22 21:00
He earned my respect
2021-11-22 21:01
Traitor betrayed oSee and co. for big paycheck. Never forget
2021-11-22 21:01
Same, I liked Valorant when it came out because it felt like something new, but after a month or two of playing it and getting to play some ranked, the game is very different to CS:GO and it's just not my cup of tea. The skills will translate easy between CS and Valorant because the aiming is very similar, movement and all is also kinda close, but the characters just add a layer of autism I can't stand. As a Quake veteran, I just want all characters to do the same shit, all weapons to do the same shit and let skill and tactics define games.
2021-11-22 21:02
2 replies
i wonder what it's like to watch NA rise to success and had a string of losses after CGS killed NA1.6 until csgo lol
2021-11-22 23:32
Not a veteran of fps but I completely agree with your pov
2021-11-23 00:49
#93
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United States Phijkchu
welcome back king
2021-11-22 21:03
#94
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Chile esanchez47
"Playing VALORANT has made me appreciate CS a lot more. Being able to punish noobs for making mistakes in CS is a lot more satisfying than getting owned by noobs in VALORANT since the skill floor is so much higher in that game." Interesting.
2021-11-22 21:03
what he meant with ``skill floor``?
2021-11-22 21:06
5 replies
More noob friendly and easier for noobs basically
2021-11-22 21:09
That means even the worst player is decent
2021-11-22 21:09
2 replies
#138
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Brazil Anarchybr
This. He was being ironic.
2021-11-22 21:57
1 reply
no, skill floor means means its much easier to be good. he means valorant is way more noob friendly.
2021-11-22 23:45
#96 basically
2021-11-22 21:24
yet valve don't even care to simply port csgo to source2 given that they've made millions (maybe billions) from case opening alone (which is also the very reason they made it free to play).
2021-11-22 21:11
1 reply
+1
2021-11-22 22:12
SAPLAAAAAA
2021-11-22 21:11
lmao floppy goated
2021-11-22 21:12
HAHAHAA It was the same for me
2021-11-22 21:14
Chad
2021-11-22 21:15
#113
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Brazil edgy_man
welcome back floppy
2021-11-22 21:18
same honestly
2021-11-22 21:19
#117
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Latvia heywire
"It’s not like a majority of the players that switched to VALORANT would ever do anything internationally in CS anyway" LMAO. So based.
2021-11-22 21:19
respect
2021-11-22 21:20
I aren't thinkerino that , traitor
2021-11-22 21:22
(C) “ My thoughts on the NA scene are that it can potentially recover over some time. It’s not like a majority of the players that switched to VALORANT would ever do anything internationally in CS anyway.” Thank you for speaking the truth!
2021-11-22 21:23
1 reply
#211
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Canada firtlast
ouch rip all those nonamers
2021-11-22 23:56
based.
2021-11-22 21:24
Based.
2021-11-22 21:31
Respect
2021-11-22 21:34
the fun thing is when floppy left csgo, he talked trash on csgo
2021-11-22 21:36
based floppy
2021-11-22 21:41
BASED
2021-11-22 21:44
respect 8)
2021-11-22 21:46
BIG FLOPPA possibly the most based pro in the scene. Welcome back!
2021-11-22 21:47
Wow who would've thought
2021-11-22 21:50
#137
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Poland Totali_
Lol he just sucked in valorant, verified by it and now crying cause he sucked xD
2021-11-22 21:57
1 reply
+1
2021-11-22 22:14
#139
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Brazil Anarchybr
Being able to punish noobs for making mistakes in CS is a lot more satisfying than getting owned by noobs in VALORANT since the skill floor is so much higher in that game SAVAGE He just gained a lot of respect Bad man.
2021-11-22 21:58
I feel like majority or at least half of Valorant pros only play it because they are being paid. That isn’t a bad thing but I feel like most of them would rather be playing CS. I enjoyed Valorant when it first came out but the amount of degenerates you meet in that game and not having the ability to 5 stack in that game with friends blow. Playing with your friends is the best part.
2021-11-22 22:01
4 replies
you can five stack in the game?
2021-11-24 00:55
3 replies
yeah if you wanna wait an hour for a queue
2021-11-24 01:06
2 replies
takes 10 min at diamond level and around 20~ if everyones imt
2021-11-24 01:47
1 reply
Yeah it’s not worth
2021-11-24 03:11
dogshit in VALORANT and talking shit lmao
2021-11-22 22:04
LOVE YOU FLOPPY
2021-11-22 22:13
#153
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South America XMTfml
who ?
2021-11-22 22:13
2 replies
tier 6 player in val and cs
2021-11-22 22:16
1 reply
ctrl+f elijah1234 7/7 Please touch grass
2021-11-23 09:03
ahahaha
2021-11-22 22:16
#161
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France PP_Bizon
"It’s not like a majority of the players that switched to VALORANT would ever do anything internationally in CS anyway." lol
2021-11-22 22:21
Wideswung
2021-11-22 22:22
Gigachad Floppy back in CS ready to beat every team single-handedly
2021-11-22 22:24
Kekw
2021-11-22 22:26
KKKKKKKKKK GOAT
2021-11-22 22:33
mashallah brother
2021-11-22 22:38
valarante child game.... look to cartoon grapfix to make kid player happy like children show.. valarante cartoon world with rainbow unlike counter strike chad with dark corridorr and raelistic gun.. valarante like playhouse. valarant playor run from csgo fear of dark world and realism
2021-11-22 22:39
same here
2021-11-22 22:42
no shit floppy couldn't adapt to spamming utility to get kills so back to cs
2021-11-22 22:45
1 reply
#184
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United Kingdom _xC4ctus
valarante child game.... look to cartoon grapfix to make kid player happy like children show.. valarante cartoon world with rainbow unlike counter strike chad with dark corridorr and raelistic gun.. valarante like playhouse. valarant playor run from csgo fear of dark world and realism
2021-11-22 22:49
#182
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Indonesia elzotta
GODPY
2021-11-22 22:45
#183
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Greece hekzy
+1000 social credits
2021-11-22 22:45
SAME
2021-11-22 22:52
#189
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Turkey razendd_
Good
2021-11-22 23:00
VALULRANT = KEKW OMEGALUL
2021-11-22 23:05
#191
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Lebanon Dogman69
Welcome back floppy We all know that Valorant decreases your serum testosterone levels
2021-11-22 23:05
#193
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Turkey emasu66
same
2021-11-22 23:12
nothing new here
2021-11-22 23:14
Kinda obvious Only terrible players went to valorant
2021-11-22 23:17
floppy cool guy
2021-11-22 23:17
respect
2021-11-22 23:28
based floppy takes
2021-11-22 23:30
> got destroyed in Valorant > kicked from the team > no future for this bot > crawled back to CS > "Valarante bad CS good plz gib me contract"
2021-11-22 23:33
1 reply
actually true lol
2021-11-23 03:44
Based and very shit at Valorant
2021-11-22 23:31
That Ibuypower mythic masters tournament is the only one they have lost with floppy (coming in 2nd place). Floppy didn't play with Extra Salt during ESEA-Premier Season 38 so I am not sure why you are making it sound like they faltered with him.
2021-11-22 23:33
Valorant in a nutshell " Being able to punish noobs for making mistakes in CS is a lot more satisfying than getting owned by noobs in VALORANT since the skill floor is so much higher in that game " What we saying for a year now. He speaks the truth, a truth everyone knows but noone in Valorant admits aside few that already have
2021-11-22 23:42
52 replies
#215
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United States Phamous3k
Why are we so concerned about Valorant. Every game has flaws and who cares lol. Valorant not going anywhere. Just learn to co-exist
2021-11-23 00:08
33 replies
Who is concerned ! I dont give an F. Its rats like you who constantly post here about Valorant and talked trash for CSGO in the past. Go hide now. CSGO is dead, Valorant better, Valorant views, Valorant 128 tick, Valorant this, Valorant that... lol ! Now you all got humbled and you talking about ..co-existence! Tell that to yourselves, you were the ones who were spamming our forums for months telling us BS.
2021-11-23 00:12
32 replies
#231
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United States Phamous3k
Show me one post where I said CSGO is dead and Valorant is better u moron lol. You typing with all that emotion lol. Valorant still not dying no time soon and to think it will soon is just morons on hltv talking. Just stop crying, and enjoy your game lol. End of story. But we can go back & forth that’s cool. Both games will exist. End of story. Edited. You obviously give a fuk sir lol
2021-11-23 01:05
20 replies
Hoho, i can find you 100 posts of valorats who posted in HLTV over and over and over and one of the ones who posted about it over and over was you ( defended it even ). Take the big slap now called Major views and HLTV record visits and chill out my little valolboy. But but .. NA moved to Valolrant so that means ... Means nothing, we told you so now you get it. EDIT : Im not the one lurking in Valorant forums saying how CSGO is better or how Valorant is dying, you do for over a year now in HLTV. So who gives an F ? Right . Now that the narrative changes from CSGO is dead, CSGO NA dead means game dying , Valorant more views to both can co-exist , cry us a river Valorats ! Now finally you get who is who. Chill out and get humbled. Sit down Valolboy, its alright "pat"
2021-11-23 08:30
19 replies
#289
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United States Phamous3k
Lol look at this crybaby shit. Writing full essays. Stop acting like a lil b1tch my guy. I didn’t read this nonsense but Ive always stated CS & Val will be like LoL & Dota. I been watching majors since like 2017 lol. You can be a fan of both u moron lol. Valorant not going nowhere kid. 2.6 million views not bringing my region back lol. Who we got back? Floppy. Ohh boy 2.6 million views here comes NA guys. That’ll bring them… Crickets lol. Foh. Go head and hit that report button. Like I said we can go back & forth lol.
2021-11-23 09:38
18 replies
Its really clever to call me crybaby when you wont find a single thread of me in any Valorant forum or Valorant video you name it bashing Valorant. Go check a mirror when you call that word lol. Now sit down copycats and learn your place. We had enough for a year, now all you can do is go to Valorant forums and post to each other how great Valorant is because On HLTV you are nothing than jokers right now, noone will take you seriously again whatever you say.
2021-11-23 09:42
17 replies
#293
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United States Phamous3k
Haha look how fast u respond. Stop crying haha. Dude feels like a winner cuz a major after 2 years & Na,Vi winning. Over there tears touching the keyboard. Kid, stay dumb. Edited: How sad are you kid. I press send u got a whole new paragraph haha
2021-11-23 09:43
16 replies
But but Valorant is better, 128ticks. but but look Twitch numbers .. but but CSGO is dying look NA, but but without NA csgo wont be the same, but but Riot cares .. and all that on HLTV for a year straight ! Now what mister ?! hahaha ! Im on HLTV talking csgo, you were on HLTV talking Valorant/bashing CSGO.. who is crying now ! haha. Imagine that !
2021-11-23 09:44
3 replies
#297
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United States Phamous3k
CSGO is dead in NA u moron lol in Asia too. It’s still a top esport. News flash idiot Dota is dead most regions. TI still a top event. How dumb are you hahaha. Without NA yes, CS is not going to be the same. It’ll be EU v CIS. That’s not a good outlook for the future lol. Kid, don’t be dumb
2021-11-23 09:46
2 replies
Dont get mad bro, HLTV record visits and major record views, cry us a river Valorats.
2021-11-23 09:47
1 reply
#300
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United States Phamous3k
Lol. I’m a fan of CS u moron lol. You probably cried real tears during the major. “Yess, CS!!! Valo dead now!” Haha
2021-11-23 09:49
EDIT : Dont get mad bro, it is what it is. If you dont like it here, go Valorant forums and cry there
2021-11-23 09:46
11 replies
#299
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United States Phamous3k
Haha is that your tactic. “You maddddd” Nah fam, I’m not some lame ass fanboy crying cuz another game is in the market. You’re my puppet. Keep replying haha. Too mad not to
2021-11-23 09:50
10 replies
What tactic you talking about ? You are valolrat, coming in other forums talking about other games. You do it for a year straight and if im your pupper ... after everything i said came true can you guess what you are to me ? Of course you do. Now you trying so hard to make me mad or you think im mad !! Tell me a reason why i should be mad ! Haha, what the hell ! Cry us a river valorats, all im saying.
2021-11-23 09:52
9 replies
#302
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United States Phamous3k
Lol keep typing nonsense haha. Stay mad kid. Type me another essay lol No mod for awhile kid. Don’t stop.
2021-11-23 09:53
8 replies
Whatever bro, who cares ! HLTV record visits, CSGO record views. CSGO is dead. roflcopter
2021-11-23 09:53
7 replies
#304
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United States Phamous3k
Haha still mad. Learn to stop being a dumbazz kid lol
2021-11-23 09:54
6 replies
Mad for what, explain ! haha
2021-11-23 09:54
5 replies
#307
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United States Phamous3k
Haha. You dumb kid. Stay replying lol. “Ohh u Valorat, 2.6.. I win”. Lol
2021-11-23 09:55
4 replies
What ?! Whatever !!!
2021-11-23 09:56
3 replies
#310
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United States Phamous3k
Hahaha. Keep it going kid. Make ur dumb point
2021-11-23 09:56
2 replies
Whatever !!!
2021-11-23 09:56
1 reply
#313
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United States Phamous3k
Ha
2021-11-23 09:58
#312
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United States Phamous3k
Lol. Still crying. Can’t help but reply. Where’s the essay at. Talk about Valorats, views and nonsense like that.
2021-11-23 09:57
10 replies
Whatever, dont cry its ok. Next csgo copycat might do better and have a chance to "kill" csgo
2021-11-23 09:59
9 replies
#315
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United States Phamous3k
Ohhhh he’s still at it lol. Still crying Valorant exist haha. One major = Sustainability forever guys lol. Kid a genius haha. Need another essay from u
2021-11-23 10:00
8 replies
No you are still at it, im on HLTV and talking about csgo views and hltv visits. What are you doing aside trying so hard like a 5 years old to get into me ?! lol. Keep trying brah ! Facts wont change that way so keep trying.
2021-11-23 10:03
7 replies
#318
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United States Phamous3k
You’re still replying to me lol. What? Need the last word to feel better haha Go talk about views somewhere else then. But you can’t. You see that notification, you start crying and reply lol
2021-11-23 10:03
6 replies
Keep trying brah, you might do it in few years. Imagine being on HLTV try to argue with csgo fans and players about csgo ! Imagine in what emotional state you are right now
2021-11-23 10:04
5 replies
#322
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United States Phamous3k
Imagine crying for a year and remembering a user who has no idea who u are. And then feel liberated cuz CSGO had good viewership lol. That’s a sad kid right there. U remembered me for a year haha.
2021-11-23 10:06
4 replies
Imagine to avoid all the facts and try to get into an adult by calling him names or that he is crying etc. Very great arguments haha
2021-11-23 10:07
3 replies
#326
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United States Phamous3k
Lol facts. Kid saying Valorant dead cuz CS had a good showing. Imagine being so stupid you can’t see beyond your own perspective. Hey!! Dota dead cuz LoL broke viewership lol.
2021-11-23 10:08
2 replies
Facts year. HLTV records, CSGO views records. Crying about those facts wont change them sorry.So keep talking trash its ok, facts are facts
2021-11-23 10:09
1 reply
#329
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United States Phamous3k
Hahaha. I’m a fan of CS and he quotes stats. Lol. Ok. Not mad. But YOU ARE! Valorant Champions coming soon liquipedia.net/valorant/VALORANT_Champio..
2021-11-23 10:10
valarante child game.... look to cartoon grapfix to make kid player happy like children show.. valarante cartoon world with rainbow unlike counter strike chad with dark corridorr and raelistic gun.. valarante like playhouse. valarant playor run from csgo fear of dark world and realism
2021-11-23 09:55
17 replies
Its not about realism nor which game do what. Its about people who for a year more or less were coming here daily almost at some point and bashing csgo/valve, trolling, laughing on csgo, go with topics over topics like csgo is dead, dying, next major will be crap, viewers too low and so many different things like that. Now, they got their answers and look how butthurt they are with facts lol.
2021-11-23 10:01
16 replies
#320
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United States Phamous3k
#318 Stay with me lol Stop replying to copy pastas looking for some kind of alliance lol.
2021-11-23 10:04
15 replies
Whatever you say, the facts i mentioned wont change and you have nothing to say anymore. Playing the "ill make it personal" game sadly wont work with me sorry. Relax, its all good. Valolrant didnt make it and Valorats dissapeared.
2021-11-23 10:06
14 replies
#323
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United States Phamous3k
#322 Lol I don’t read most this crap. Love how u read mines though. I’m sure Valorat & cry are somewhere in there lol.
2021-11-23 10:07
13 replies
You can cry me a river all day long. The facts i mentioned wont change whatever you saying or trying to do. Thats the point.
2021-11-23 10:08
12 replies
#327
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United States Phamous3k
Haha ohhh man. I bet you actually hate seeing my name. Ohh man I love it. Keep replying kid. Press that report button lol
2021-11-23 10:10
11 replies
This narrative of me being mad is something you should recheck !!! You trying very very hard to make me mad you mean. Ask mods if i reported you and youll get your answer, lol ! In fact this is amusing
2021-11-23 10:11
10 replies
#331
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United States Phamous3k
Haha. Still replying. Can’t help it. You dreamt of typing to me w/ Valorat lol.
2021-11-23 10:12
9 replies
Oh now the issue is if im replying, you change subjects so fast. Lets go back to the point. HLTV records - CSGO records, you can cry all day Valorats
2021-11-23 10:13
8 replies
#333
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United States Phamous3k
Haha. Changed subject!? What. U just crying all over hltv. Just my lil puppet on here haha. I type u reply. That’s the subject lol
2021-11-23 10:14
7 replies
What me replying to you has anything to do with the facts i mention ? Explain
2021-11-23 10:15
6 replies
#335
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United States Phamous3k
Facts are great. Great for CS… You keep saying stuff that doesn’t bother me lol. But Val Championship otw liquipedia.net/valorant/VALORANT_Champio..
2021-11-23 10:16
5 replies
Hahahaha
2021-11-23 10:17
4 replies
#338
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United States Phamous3k
Lol 😂
2021-11-23 10:18
3 replies
You know whats the difference here ?! That most of us we never ever went into valorant forums to bash Valorant or we never ever said Valorant is dead or Valorant wont do good numbers ( most of even ). Because we dont care at all. It is you valorats who for a year straight were coming into a csgo site to talk about Valorant or bash/troll csgo. So personally i dont mind at all about Valorant. Can Valorant do 10million views ?! So be it, good for it. I dont care , thats all. I dont care. My answer was going to Valorats who for a year talking about how csgo is dead/dying or is declining or how better Valo is and then csgo made records and you have nothing to say anymore. It was the funniest thing to occur, something i mentioned numerous times in here " wait for major and youll see " So, to end this. I dont mind at all about Valorant. It is Valolboys who care about CSGO and for a reason bashing it for a year. And with that , have a nice day kiddo
2021-11-23 10:25
2 replies
#345
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United States Phamous3k
Hahaha. He typed another essay. Dude. No one cares about ur pov lol. More essays please
2021-11-23 10:25
chill out
2021-11-24 01:13
Meh, I don't want to argue with him, but IMO the skill ceiling is higher in CS because the game is more mature, nothing to do with the game itself. He mentioned being owned by noobs, well the game is fairly new, and the meta is still shifting a lot, and will continue to do so since new maps and new agents will be released. CS must feels good since he played it a lot more, but the game doesn't evolve. It's been the same for few years, and old players are quitting because they are burnt from having a tournament every week.
2021-11-22 23:44
4 replies
Typically in new games, the higher skilled players, will dominate the scene until everyone becomes "mature" about the game. It usually isn't the other way around. There is a reason you see fewer clutches / fewer attempts at re-taking sites then when CS:GO first came out. Everyone has evolved on the t1 level. Of course the skill ceiling overall in CS:GO is higher because of how old the game is but that doesn't change the fact that if "noobs" can easily kill "pros" in Valorant now the skill gap will be even smaller in 2-3 years.
2021-11-23 00:44
3 replies
Anyone can get kills because the game requires less skill. Less recoil and more options to execute attacks means blindsiding enemies easier
2021-11-23 03:08
1 reply
+1
2021-11-23 09:55
I don't agree with you. Anybody can become pro when a game comes out. In a year or two, the pro scene will be more stable and there are some names you will never see again at the top. Remember when Curse had a team full of pro cod players in csgo? Besides skadoodle, nobody really stayed at the top. Imo, if a "noob" can kill floppy, it's because there are more options on how to kill in valorant, and it pissed him because he didn't play long enough to learn and adapt to them. It must be hard on the ego.
2021-11-25 16:46
#210
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Czech Republic manik999
I actually miss NA scene after all this while
2021-11-22 23:52
2 replies
#214
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United States Phamous3k
Lol. Bro. It’s not coming back. We’ll get a few ex-CS players who got cut & maybe Cloud9.
2021-11-23 00:07
1 reply
glad to see u have hope
2021-11-23 05:48
#212
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Spain t3mg
CHAD
2021-11-23 00:00
#217
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Europe Nuskel
hahahaha love it.
2021-11-23 00:12
#218
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Russia HikZ
same
2021-11-23 00:13
#219
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Denmark Zaerdna
Clown moment
2021-11-23 00:15
It's what Valorant is good for. Also helping newbs have a chance with "ultimate abilities" which are basically copy/paste from CE scripts.
2021-11-23 00:17
+1
2021-11-23 00:17
LUL XD
2021-11-23 00:24
#224
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Germany Teztyment
Lol no shit. Valorant is fucking trash compared to cs.
2021-11-23 00:37
I always knew he had it in him, that sharpy tongue and speech
2021-11-23 00:50
#229
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Denmark Zorrondo
you were trash on Valorant and now you expect to be somehow good on CS? no wonder you are playing in Extra salt LMAO
2021-11-23 00:58
Oh boy.. why you said it? You know how big the hate that comes to you.. <3
2021-11-23 00:59
From T2-3 valorant to tier 2 cs lol I guess it’s an upgrade
2021-11-23 01:19
nice
2021-11-23 01:37
Translates too. I wasnt going to make any money in Valorant because i was terrible and my contract was cancelled. So came back to CS where i was offered a contract and money.
2021-11-23 01:54
Nice
2021-11-23 02:14
Same tbh
2021-11-23 02:20
valarante child game
2021-11-23 02:22
1 reply
+1
2021-11-23 10:24
floppy GOAT
2021-11-23 02:52
Me too
2021-11-23 02:53
funny, exactly the opposite for me, after playing valorant it made me realize how garbage csgo is, that on global rank i need to be matched against cheaters on a daily bases. all that matters to valve is kids wasting their allowence on skins
2021-11-23 03:00
lmao he said it
2021-11-23 03:18
based
2021-11-23 03:47
#261
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Portugal antCB
"I was feeling a little burnt out from playing." 21 year old that never made anything out of himself was BURNT OUT from playing. like what the fuck
2021-11-23 04:06
I've never been touching valorant so far.. is it so complicated?
2021-11-23 04:28
based
2021-11-23 04:44
Truth has been spoken
2021-11-23 05:01
#265
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Japan Dracielia
Valorant is like the gay sibling who tries to one up its older brother.
2021-11-23 05:06
I would agree with that statement. I have not played CS in a long time, but I did try Valorant for the sake of it. I dunno if it's my inner expectations or just a CS-oriented muscle memory, I didn't appreciate Valorant's mechanics at all.
2021-11-23 05:08
#267
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United States laiff
Dude was horrible when he switched to valorant and had 0 work ethic despite being in a top 3 NA team in valorant he could've been on LAN as well
2021-11-23 05:10
2 replies
Watch him switch to overwatch 2 in 3 months
2021-11-23 06:50
Xeppaa was horrible at the beginning too, they were playing a game they didnt like that much as cs, but look xeppa now and c9 wasnt that good back at the time And valorant is boring
2021-11-23 06:51
What a guy 🤣🤣
2021-11-23 06:48
Washed Valorant pro moving to CS LUL
2021-11-23 06:49
2 replies
Wasn’t really motivated though?
2021-11-23 08:02
+2
2021-11-23 09:34
He was shit at valo so he came back
2021-11-23 07:06
OFC VALORANT SUCH A JOKE POWERS FOR WHAT NO PURE SKILL
2021-11-23 07:37
why he acting like he gon achieve something in cs
2021-11-23 09:41
lmao, dude ditches csgo for valorant, realizes he's literally an anti talent for that game, comes back claiming "csgo is better!" attempting to save the last shred of a chance to be a professional esports player and you guys all go "based" and start making excuses for him.
2021-11-23 09:44
Lol he's so salty because people that he was better than at CS became much better than him at Valorant. While those people are playing international LANs, he's gonna be playing cash cups most of the season, because Valorant is what matters in NA, not CS.
2021-11-23 10:20
1 reply
You may be right, but floppy really wanted to play cs. I remember him commenting how crushed he was when c9 fell apart, and he didn't see other opportunities at the time for cs. At the moment, na players need to be willing to go to eu if they want to compete.
2021-11-23 16:35
Valarante
2021-11-23 10:23
#344
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Finland AliSabid
Nice
2021-11-23 10:25
valorant its like for people who grow up from the fortnite game and looking some similar visually to them previous game, but CS:GO is too much complex for them
2021-11-23 11:05
1 reply
+1 this
2021-11-23 18:51
Riot Games must be very upset now
2021-11-23 11:26
finally someone spoke up
2021-11-23 11:31
„A burnout from competitive FPS games led to floppy taking a short break …“ WOW .. just WOW. Do you guys read books or study anything else than cs? Calling a mental health break a recovery from burnout is grotesque. There is a clinical definition of a burnout. It does not go away with a short break. It‘s like putting extensive heart surgery in the same category as an open finger when cutting yourself 🤦‍♀️
2021-11-23 12:20
1 reply
#358
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Lebanon Dogman69
bruh burnout is just a convenient excuse in 99% times
2021-11-23 13:26
#356
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United Kingdom Ad4mmm_
valarante child game.... look to cartoon grapfix to make kid player happy like children show.. valarante cartoon world with rainbow unlike counter strike with dark corridorr and raelistic gun.. valarante like playhouse. valarant playor run from csgo fear of dark world and realism
2021-11-23 13:16
fortnite already played that purpose
2021-11-23 13:54
#361
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Brazil _Awper
Valorant is dead
2021-11-23 13:55
based
2021-11-23 14:21
Honestly, if i don't take looks into account (i don't like it at all, but it is aimed towards young children, so it's fine) valorant is weird. I believe it might be fun, but for me it is actually INCREDIBLE pain to watch. And as i lack time i often watch a game (of CSGO) here and there rather than play. If there are young talents in USA they better play their ass of right now, the lack of NA talent is window of opportunity that comes once in a decade. And NA orgs would LOVE to have NA team in CSGO, not only liquid or CoL, believe me ;) I feel bad because of Xepaa, he looked solid but he fade away quite quickly. I hope that at least Liquid and one more org can build solid NA core team. And Furia will keep doing good. I miss saying "NA nade" like we did back in the day way too much ;)
2021-11-23 16:26
this kid trashtalks nitr0, hiko, ethan, subroza, skadoodle who all have more achievements and trophies in CS than floppy (who has ZERO).
2021-11-23 17:42
poor floppy, thought he would be a god in val cause he was allright in CS. It's a different game my friend. Floppy was trash, C9 got top 3 as soon has he was benched. Everything you do poorly you end up disliking, it's no surprise floppy disliked val, he wasn't good at it, when you aren't good at something, usually you don't like it.
2021-11-23 18:35
so hes bad at that too?
2021-11-23 19:07
i agree
2021-11-23 22:52
WHY DONT YOU STILL FIGHT FOR A BETTER CSGO?? (like in this video) especially about holding angles and movement value changes so acceleration and peekers advantage should have less impact!! "Floppy made an interesting video about fixing CS:GO with a few slight tweaks, do you agree with his changes?" facebook.com/ESEA/videos/mdl-player-flop..
2021-11-23 23:15
1 reply
legend for finding this
2021-11-25 22:28
#383
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United States Rambeard
I'm glad he saw the light.
2021-11-24 00:31
of course vava sucks
2021-11-24 01:07
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