B1ad3: "For our system it's really important to have at least 7-10 days where we can reset"

We spoke to the Natus Vincere coach after his team secured a spot in the upper bracket final by beating Heroic.

NAVI haven't lost a beat since their triumph at PGL Major Stockholm, besting BIG 2-0 in their opening series in Copenhagen for BLAST. They were given a true test in their second match of the event though, going up against a Heroic side who have been adamant in stating that they are Natus Vincere's No.1 competition, and the Danish team were true to their word as they made it a contentious series, despite NAVI coming out on top 2-1.

B1ad3 agrees that Heroic are one of NAVI's primary threats, but contended they fear no one right now

Following the match, HLTV spoke to Andrey "⁠B1ad3⁠" Gorodenskiy to get his thoughts on the series, during which NAVI nearly pulled off a comeback from a massive deficit on Mirage, as well as hear what he had to say regarding comments made by Casper "⁠cadiaN⁠" Møller and René "⁠TeSeS⁠" Madsen on how Heroic are Natus Vincere's main opposition. The 35-year-old coach also shared his perspective on what the communication on the team was like during their match against G2 at the Major, and delved into their goals for the final stretch of the year.

I wanted to start with the comeback that almost happened on Mirage just now, you brought it really close, back from 5-15, what was the communication like during that comeback and when it was cut short in the end?

Mostly it was cold-blooded playing without bright emotions, cheering and so on. Sometimes we have such a mode, for example we had the same versus G2 on Nuke in the grand final of the Major, and we actually don't feel a lot of excitement while we're winning rounds. For example, when we are catching our opponent, when we are close to the comeback, then we start to feel more excited, more happy, voices are changing and so on, but I think we need something of that earlier.

Versus G2 on Nuke, only in OT did we start to communicate properly, be more active. When you have a better mood inside the TeamSpeak, players can communicate more, give more useful information, have some ideas inside the game. When you have low communication, it's a chain reaction, one is reacting on another one. Versus Heroic on Mirage it was also mostly cold-blooded, but I think if we had started much earlier to be more active in communication, I think we could make a comeback, but on T side I think we played really bad.

You also had the choice for the decider map between Overpass and Nuke, and you currently have a nineteen-map winstreak on Nuke. What led to you choosing Overpass over a map you're so dominant on at the moment?

Actually, it's obvious because when you play against strong opponents, first of all they can anticipate the map, and make a lot of preparations. So they can counter you, and you don't know what they will prepare. The second thing is that it is their strongest, or one of their strongest maps, they'll usually pick it, so it's not a good tendency to pick your strong map and not think about your opponent, you need to respect it, respect your opponent. We would have problems on Nuke if we played it, because they know how to operate on Nuke, they know how to find gaps. We didn't want to play it at all today, and also we have some interesting rounds that we didn't want to show off on Nuke versus them, and we needed those if we wanted to win it.

There is this seemingly one-sided rivalry between you and Heroic brewing — you haven't actually lost a series to them yet — but they've been talking in interviews about how they're a team that you are afraid of, how they are your No. 1 competition, and that you know that too. Is that actually the case from your end?

Well, definitely we are not afraid of anyone at this moment because, I told a lot of times in interviews, that when you are winning against teams, you gain knowledge in how to beat these teams, and you gain confidence. It's impossible to be scared after that. It's more that they're saying they are the only team they can beat us, it's not like they will beat us, but they can beat us. It's true, they are one of those teams of course.

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I think there are three or four teams that are really hard to play when they are in prime shape, or playing good on the day of the match. Gambit, Heroic, G2, Vitality, I think these four teams. Also, it's fine, their logic is like we had close matches, it's true, but after each match we usually have a lot of analyzing of mistakes and we make progress, and we're changing a lot of stuff. So it's not smart to analyze the game that was five or six months ago because we could change a lot. It's only about logic, but still I respect Heroic and I think they're one of the strongest teams that we can play.

B1ad3 ranks Heroic among the top four of NAVI's fiercest competitors

This event and the Global Final are your last two events of the year since you're not at IEM Winter. You're obvious favorites going into it, especially after your Major run and IEM Cologne. How do you want to close out the year, aside from just winning the tournaments?

The year? Of course just winning, that's all. We know that we are the favorites, and it's not always good, it gives you pressure. In the G2 final at the Major we had pressure when we started to lose on Nuke, I felt like we were experiencing a lot of pressure, and they [NAVI's players] can't play the way they usually play because of that. I think, being fair, it doesn't give you an automatic win, you need still to do the same style that you were doing before and sometimes even more, because teams start to analyze more, only you, and you need to not relax and start just playing. You need to add something else if you want to keep winning.

Of course, one thing is when you're the favorite, sometimes teams are actually afraid of you, and it gives you the confidence, you see it in the match. For us it's more to finish the year with the wins because we want to build our era — I think any team wants to do this — but we are on a good path now, we're winning good events in a row. This year it's obvious that we'll be happy with two wins, and even if we will lose some of the remaining tournaments, I think it will give us a lot of information where we need to work next year.

Does not being at IEM Winter detract from the end of the year for you at all?

No, because it's not about actually playing events, I think it's more about winning events. We always speak about this tough schedule, it was more about before the pandemic, the schedule was really tough. Online also was really tough, but you were playing at home, okay.

But I think it's not healthy to play so many events in a row, at least if you want to win them. If you have a good competitive scene, it will be impossible to win all of them in a row because your motivation is not so good. You can't add something new, they start to anti-strat you, and of course physical energy is also lost with traveling, playing all the time, and if you finish getting to the finals, you don't have any days off between the tournaments actually. For us, our system, it's really important to have at least 7, 9, even 10 days where we can reset ourselves mentally and to prepare something new for the event. In that case, we are ready for it.

Denmark René 'TeSeS' Madsen
René 'TeSeS' Madsen
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
746
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.67
Denmark Casper 'cadiaN' Møller
Casper 'cadiaN' Møller
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
1390
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.63
Good
2021-11-26 10:49
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#49
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United Kingdom Triturn
making excuses for iem winter oh wait they're not in it. nvm
2021-11-26 14:39
1 reply
they literally refused and wanted to skip it in order to have days to rest. dumb nvm.
2021-11-26 17:26
Very nice read
2021-11-26 10:49
Blade major winner
2021-11-26 10:49
Lets go NAVI
2021-11-26 10:50
#5
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India nAtee
their strat book might be too complex, need to give those brains a little rest xD
2021-11-26 10:50
Good
2021-11-26 10:51
#8
kYO | 
France J!n
Nice excuses
2021-11-26 10:52
11 replies
Where?
2021-11-26 10:56
3 replies
#15
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Lithuania Litva2k
ignore him, just a navi hater
2021-11-26 11:04
1 reply
#19
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
All right, will do
2021-11-26 11:03
#24
kYO | 
France J!n
In title
2021-11-26 11:22
#18
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
Wdym excuses? They have won everyone in the past few months.
2021-11-26 11:03
4 replies
#25
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France J!n
Vitality will rekt them
2021-11-26 11:22
3 replies
*copium*
2021-11-26 12:16
Copium
2021-11-26 13:45
lol
2021-11-26 16:00
You're literally making everything for people to hate you, aren't you? You're the only one finding excuses to KyojiN being trash and even insulting people, then you keep trashing other teams and players... Are you ok?
2021-11-26 12:57
1 reply
+1 He is the only french i can't stand
2021-11-26 13:46
#9
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CIS GambaIsGood
sure
2021-11-26 10:54
Hope they able to keep up this form
2021-11-26 10:58
Not read and not car
2021-11-26 10:58
1 reply
you commented = you read it
2021-11-26 12:45
Actually a very good read. Great answers, honestly. Expected from b1ad3.
2021-11-26 11:00
2 replies
+1
2021-11-26 13:46
Ok I will read now
2021-11-26 15:51
#16
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Russia igotbanned
EZ4NAVI
2021-11-26 11:00
1 reply
+1 bro
2021-11-26 11:23
#20
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Russia 1578
B1ad3 goat coach
2021-11-26 11:11
B1ad3 is truly the mastermind, you can see his intelligence in his answers.
2021-11-26 11:12
I guess blade is using supercompensation to create peak form on the atheletes during the events, not unlike astralis during blastarlis era.
2021-11-26 11:12
B1ad3 best coach <3
2021-11-26 11:23
#29
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Russia mshkoda
wise
2021-11-26 11:26
expected eloquent answers from the GOAT coach. respect.
2021-11-26 11:30
> We will have problems on Nuke if we would play it Do the writers not know basic conditional sentence rules? Is it that bad to change the sentence to >> we would have had problems on Nuke if we played it and make it correct? Once again, I'm disappointed in hltv staff.
2021-11-26 11:34
7 replies
not everyone first language london(
2021-11-26 11:38
4 replies
But they hire writers to write English posts? Ofc I would make mistakes in a different language, but that is why I don't sign up to work in a German news site for example.
2021-11-26 11:44
3 replies
true, didnt think about that. my b.
2021-11-26 11:51
For one thing, it was not a fucking thesis. As long as i could understand it, I don’t have a problem.
2021-11-26 16:19
I'm not sure, but probably it's direct quote, and if it's true, I would prefer to save original quote, even if it's with mistakes
2021-11-26 20:25
I think that's just what blade said, they didn't alter his sentences.
2021-11-26 12:51
#47
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Russia dteakh
"Versus G2 on Nuke, only in OT did we start to communicate properly, be more active."
2021-11-26 14:22
I think it's weird tbh that other top teams don't skip out the iem winter event when there is a much bigger tournament legit days after. They are just gonna exhaust themself and give away footage too navi. I like this approach from blade and navi
2021-11-26 13:02
1 reply
+1
2021-11-28 11:29
#42
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Finland AliSabid
great guy!
2021-11-26 13:03
These interviews are always fun to read.
2021-11-26 14:36
#50
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Poland SebL
I don't think Heroic can really win vs NAVI, they always have close games, but it's not like Heroic is in a place to win it and just doesn't win the final round or something, it's usually them making it close but not so close to really put NAVI in danger, I think there will be far more better opponents for NAVI in 2022, GL closing this year in style B1ad3!
2021-11-26 15:23
10 replies
they always make it close... so how are they not gonna win? its bound to happen at some time
2021-11-26 15:39
9 replies
#53
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Poland SebL
I really don't think so, because they're making the scores close but they're never in a true position to win, it's not like they're better than NAVI in some of the matches by pretty much any meaning, it's just the fact that they're making the scores close.
2021-11-26 15:41
8 replies
kinda confused rn 🤔if you make it close then that clearly shows your good, no?
2021-11-26 15:45
7 replies
#56
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Poland SebL
ofc., but it doesn't mean that you were in a position to win.
2021-11-26 15:59
6 replies
they won a map:)
2021-11-26 16:03
5 replies
#59
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Poland SebL
Man are you even reading what I'm writing?
2021-11-26 16:12
4 replies
so they where ,thats how i look at it
2021-11-26 16:13
3 replies
#61
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Poland SebL
Ok so if a team wins the map then it means that they were close to winning the whole series. Ok if you look at it this way I won't argue.
2021-11-26 16:15
2 replies
close but no cigar
2021-11-28 11:34
1 reply
#72
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Poland SebL
yeah excatly.
2021-11-28 15:42
not hyped while winning rounds, sounds like a weird team mechanic
2021-11-26 15:38
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#63
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Latvia pumasiK
it could backfire when you start losing
2021-11-26 16:38
old fox he knows exactly how all tiers play
2021-11-26 17:01
very good interview, coach of the decade.
2021-11-26 19:25
A deep run in IEM would give teams a huge boost in Hltv’s ranking except Navi ( since they’re so far ahead). Some other top teams has roster change recently and it’s good for them to grind through tournaments. Navi play to win the tournament and I like that aproach from Blade. Players and teams need time to prepare tactics and practice. I would rather watch a 3-4 day events with well-prepare Bo3s than a 2 weeks long event with the same tactics over and over again. It’s just give both players and viewer exhaust.
2021-11-26 21:07
7-10 day to drink vodka,not to reset....just a joke John....
2021-11-28 11:30
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