Liquid close in on oSee - Report

The 22-year-old would take over the AWPing duties in Liquid.

Following the renewal of Keith "⁠NAF⁠" Markovic, the next big news in the Liquid camp could be the addition of Extra Salt AWPer Josh "⁠oSee⁠" Ohm, according to a report by 1pv.fr.

The American AWPer has posted a 1.30 rating during his time in the North American-South African outfit over the past year, garnering more attention and recognition than previously.

During his time in Extra Salt, oSee won two DreamHack Opens North America, in March and June, and most recently was a key part in the team’s ESL Pro League Season 15 qualifying run at ESL Conference, where he was the top-rated player at the event with a 1.33 in his 8 maps played.

oSee could soon be named Liquid's AWPer

The report of oSee joining Liquid comes shortly after the North American organization announced NAF’s contract extension, making him and Jonathan "⁠EliGE⁠" Jablonowski the only two players safe on the roster as Gabriel "⁠FalleN⁠" Toledo, Jake "⁠Stewie2K⁠" Yip and Michael "⁠Grim⁠" Wince are expected to make their exits from the team.

Earlier reports also included French veteran Richard "⁠shox⁠" Papillon as a possible addition to the team as well as former IGL Nick "⁠nitr0⁠" Cannella, who would be pondering a return to Counter-Strike after a short sojourn playing Valorant.

Vinicius "⁠VINI⁠" Figueiredo was also briefly included in the ongoing rumors surrounding Liquid after he was benched in FURIA, but that possible move seems to have cooled down.

Liquid’s roster could look as follows:

United States Jonathan "⁠EliGE⁠" Jablonowski
Canada Keith "⁠NAF⁠" Markovic
United States Josh "⁠oSee⁠" Ohm
United States Nick "⁠nitr0⁠" Cannella
France Richard "⁠shox⁠" Papillon

United States Eric "⁠adreN⁠" Hoag (coach)

United States Josh 'oSee' Ohm
Josh 'oSee' Ohm
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.11
Maps played:
996
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.63
United States Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1522
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.68
Brazil Vinicius 'VINI' Figueiredo
Vinicius 'VINI' Figueiredo
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
916
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.67
United States Nick 'nitr0' Cannella
Nick 'nitr0' Cannella
Age:
26
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
1323
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.66
Brazil Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Age:
30
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
1485
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.60
Canada Keith 'NAF' Markovic
Keith 'NAF' Markovic
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1483
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.63
United States Eric 'adreN' Hoag
Eric 'adreN' Hoag
Age:
31
Team:
France Richard 'shox' Papillon
Richard 'shox' Papillon
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1934
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.66
United States Michael 'Grim' Wince
Michael 'Grim' Wince
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
803
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.68
United States Jake 'Stewie2K' Yip
Jake 'Stewie2K' Yip
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
1467
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.68
Its time
2021-12-02 18:09
90 replies
#87
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CIS youWrong
NITRO WELCOME!
2021-12-02 18:20
19 replies
#188
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Ukraine Chrisjkk
nitro and shox omegalul
2021-12-02 18:46
7 replies
Defintely tier 3
2021-12-02 21:00
4 replies
I can't agree, shox still tier 1, nitro tier 2 at least
2021-12-06 01:27
3 replies
They'll be both inconsistent, tier 2 max
2021-12-12 13:14
2 replies
Plenty of tier 1 players are inconsistent
2021-12-15 00:35
1 reply
#475
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Sweden frozze90
yeah and thats why their teams are in the shitter :)
2021-12-17 16:58
SHOX OLD
2021-12-02 21:05
#426
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Brazil Ties4
+1
2021-12-05 20:07
Failed in an inferior game and crawls back to CSGO.
2021-12-03 01:20
8 replies
#367
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Canada iviike
Gotta try different things sometimes. u puss.
2021-12-03 07:06
4 replies
If you played in the NFL, I doubt you would voluntarily go to an Arena Football league for less money. But ok. :)
2021-12-05 07:29
3 replies
*AHEM* Michael Jordans two year stint in baseball *AHEM*
2021-12-15 16:09
2 replies
lmao shrekt also another example is kimi raikkonen leaving F1 after 2009 for rally and nascar
2021-12-17 00:52
#476
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Sweden frozze90
dang u shut him quiet bro (Y)
2021-12-17 16:59
I mean nitr0 not even doing bad in valorant, their team is solid it's just there are way better teams than 100T atm. Individually they have really good players, like Hiko, Asuna, nitr0, etc.
2021-12-05 01:31
#445
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United States Minicin
He didnt even fail in val shows you know nothing
2021-12-08 16:51
1 reply
From what I recall, 100T are a good team, they're just inconsistent as all hell considering their talent
2021-12-10 06:00
#352
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China VerycowB
Back
2021-12-03 01:23
im hyped for Nitr0s return
2021-12-03 14:47
#90
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Italy NotNew
still baffled they got shox
2021-12-02 18:20
33 replies
#209
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Indonesia lumayan
bro... shox still better than nitro tbh
2021-12-02 18:51
19 replies
but he plays lurk and naf plays lurk so no one on this team is a support they could clash
2021-12-02 19:23
18 replies
they should keep grim over shox but okkkkk
2021-12-03 04:56
10 replies
They're tired of holding Grims hand and it was said in interviews that his work ethic isn't that great either.
2021-12-03 09:19
2 replies
yes but im not ready to believe everything out of stewie tbh
2021-12-04 03:19
1 reply
That's fair.. on the other hand he has no real reason to make up lies if Stewie himself is gonna be out the door anyway.
2021-12-04 10:12
#427
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Brazil Ties4
Vini >>> Shox and Grim
2021-12-05 20:08
6 replies
true very true
2021-12-05 21:51
#477
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Sweden frozze90
do he speak london?
2021-12-17 17:01
4 replies
#479
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Germany zborko
like u XD LOL #niceengland
2021-12-18 15:08
3 replies
#480
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Sweden frozze90
YE CUZ IM REALLY PUTTIN DOWN A EFFORT ON HLTV. you aint worth it
2021-12-18 18:02
German talking
2021-12-26 10:21
1 reply
#488
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Germany zborko
india talking :D
2021-12-29 20:23
#412
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North America Korama
U do realize how dumb that is right
2021-12-05 02:33
5 replies
#430
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Brazil Ties4
Why
2021-12-05 22:49
3 replies
Shox is a lurker and Naf is already playing the lurk role lmao. Nitr0 is an igl he has so much more inteligence than shox does
2021-12-07 03:00
2 replies
Shox is a all-round player, he could play any role, even NAF himself said so so they won't clash. I doubt nitr0 has more int than shoxiejesus. And whats wrong with having more intelligent player on the team, its only gonna help
2021-12-19 14:05
1 reply
well i havent heard that but if you have it sounds like it would work but i just dont know if shox can adapt to na or to english calling since he has been playing whole career in france and i dont like liquid an na team getting eu players just find an na talent
2021-12-21 16:07
i mean its not but if you think it is sure man
2021-12-15 21:46
2021-12-19 14:05
They didn’t
2021-12-02 18:56
2 replies
#325
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Italy NotNew
France Richard "⁠shox⁠" Papillon
2021-12-02 21:49
1 reply
"Earlier reports also included French veteran Richard "⁠shox⁠" Papillon as a POSSIBLE addition to the team"
2021-12-03 02:33
should be floppy instead of shox tbh, good outside chem wit osee and a brighter personality in a much more pessemistic liquid, plus has been in good form and plays a closer role similar to shox, ALSO speaks english because he's from NA.........ye
2021-12-02 22:14
8 replies
came looking for this comment
2021-12-02 23:42
AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2021-12-03 07:30
1 reply
#428
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Brazil Ties4
He's wrong. Floppy would be just another Grim.
2021-12-05 20:09
Naf - star lurker Elige - aggressive star Osee - star awper Nitro - Igl/secondary awp Floppy - another star rifler They need a support player not another star like floppy
2021-12-03 12:43
2 replies
I don't think you understand his role and what spots he's filled in past teams, floppy was only ever a star rifler in the first C9 roster, all because sonic and (especially) motm aren't capable of it in any measure. That's not a role he's slotted into for some time, it'd work.
2021-12-12 03:06
1 reply
Yes I was mistaken, I recently found out he plays as a support in extra salt. He would fit perfectly in Liquid!
2021-12-12 11:04
Bro's idea is the best way to solve communication problems. shox just looks like he wants to win French fans. At least it fails to collect by name value like c9.NA should not die yet.
2021-12-05 06:27
definitely bring in osee, floppy, and nitro
2021-12-20 12:03
#385
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Sweden 1gloss
shox isnt confirmed, but if it happens thats no bueno
2021-12-03 14:14
#91
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Netherlands arTvamp
sh0x on this roster lo? anyway.... Osee!!!!!!
2021-12-02 18:20
23 replies
#107
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Hungary kolgab_
+1 if they pick up floppy instead of shox
2021-12-02 18:22
22 replies
#147
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North America hi_mens))
Probably still a possibility in the future if Shox doesn't work out in the team. This could be Shox's last chance to play in T1 CS.
2021-12-02 18:31
RIP ES either way :(
2021-12-02 18:41
1 reply
Would like to see sonic come back and hop on the awp hes always used it when they ran double awp
2021-12-02 21:27
#211
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Indonesia lumayan
u prefer nitro instead of shox?
2021-12-02 18:51
7 replies
Of course, Nitr0 can IGL and is a better secondary awp
2021-12-02 19:55
2 replies
Lmao good one
2021-12-02 21:31
1 reply
He is at least half right
2021-12-02 23:07
Shox is washed (and i like him as a player and a person). Its pretty dumb if you are creating a new team to be a top1 contender and you want to sign Shox... Nitro was great, as an IGL at least. If he can find a lvl of today CS, we will see. He has a lot to proof. Might work, might not...
2021-12-05 15:23
3 replies
#418
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Indonesia lumayan
then.. the conclusion is, they are not creating a new team to be a top 1 contender kekw
2021-12-05 15:31
2 replies
I dont know, nitro was able to lead the team to half a year dominance in first half 2019 (after Katowice Major). It means they ended the Astralis Era, which is huge! Now you can see, there is very hard to have an era. Being title contende (top10 team) is probably the best target, when you are creating the team. Maybe after 2 years you will have an era. Nitro was good, karrigan was good, but when the teams like FaZe and TL struggled, they removed these IGLs for low numbers. But as you can see, the teams got worst then before. Maybe they just needed a new lifeline. (never remove IGL when you dont have a better option...) Nitro was away from CS:GO for a some time, I wonder if he can find the way to the lvl of CS:GO today. If he can, he can come with new ideas and fresh mindset. It can work (especially with cooperation with Adren as a coach). Nitro is a wild card, but shox is for me totally stupid move imo
2021-12-05 15:38
1 reply
#424
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Indonesia lumayan
I agree with you, nice explanation!
2021-12-05 17:09
Twistzz is coming back
2021-12-02 18:51
9 replies
This should have happened when Twistzz still was in the team!
2021-12-02 19:04
8 replies
#348
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Netherlands arTvamp
True, in a way the same is happening over at Astralis camp. Both teams were long standing victors, both teams needed to be reworked. Astralis: Blamef, k0nfig, glave, device, lucky/xyp(support) Problem with refreshed fire power from dupreeh and magisk sorted. Liquid: Add oSee Nitro(IGL), Eliege, Osee, Twistz, NAF. Problem with IGL and awp Sorted. Nitro was always better on the rifle. if due time he turns out to be shit now then they should switch him with Brehze or someone. making another liquid player IGL. Nitro & eliege entry combo was something nice. They should of never derailed from that. they always needed a new player to be the awper either that or NAF to awp in the past imo. Faze instead of Twistz add ropz. NIP instead of device and probably es3tag. add back nawk and LNZ. Mouz & OG mix. Left overs could form a danish squad, dupreeh,magisk,valde,xypex,acor. Vitality stay with sh0x. they add KennyS. trade koijn with either Amanek or jack. Vitality: shox, apex, kennyS, misutaa, jacks/amanek G2: Niko, Hunter, nexa, zywoo, jacks/amanek And the world of cs makes sense again. G2 and Astralis will be large contenders to beat NAVI. Liquid who knows, at least they will make it so an NA team will be top10 perhaps top5 again.
2021-12-03 00:37
7 replies
idi nahyi ymnik
2021-12-03 10:01
Wtf did I just read?? Why would teams like vitality let go off zywoo and buy kennyS?? Why would faze add ropz in place of twistzz. They could easily swap ropz for olof since they play same spots. Why would brehze replace nitro?? brehze's roles overlap with elige. Why would NIP let go off device after spending so much money to buy him in the first place?? And getting LNZ back?? Are you serious lmao?? I dont think you know how roles work and this is not some fantasy game where you can have few organizations sacrifice to make other teams better for the sake of audience' entertainment. Every organization out there is trying to win. Vitality aint ever gonna sell zywoo. Magisk dupreeh wont play with acor. Lol your comment makes no sense.
2021-12-03 12:52
4 replies
#397
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Netherlands arTvamp
Ofc I know this. Not every org can win on deals and some players would want to move themselves. Obviously I was stating what Id like to see for competition sake against navi. In no way was this a serious prediction. The fact that you try to be little another on such obvious note must be a person who either just miss understood or seeks easy victories for own short comings.
2021-12-03 19:16
3 replies
I probably misunderstood. I really thought you were serious. Sorry about that!!
2021-12-04 11:18
2 replies
#425
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Netherlands arTvamp
+1
2021-12-05 18:42
A wholesome conclusion
2021-12-12 17:33
ok well first off @1nsaneME was right in what he was saying. no organization could ever feasibly do what u asked. second he wasn't belittling u he was just saying how little background knowledge of the game u have. rosters aren't like fantasy teams. also ur rosters didn't have any role compatibility. For example g2 amanek is awper, jacks is a entry, niko is second entry, and hunter is lurk/follow up. U can't just stick zywoo in for jacks and expect greatness just because of the team skill.
2021-12-03 23:13
+1
2021-12-02 22:25
Sooooo hype for NA… this dude is gonna make some waves in EU for sure
2021-12-02 18:35
iSee
2021-12-02 18:49
Diva shox is washed and should be on a tier 3 team with jw and flusha You want an NA team? Elige, naf, breeze, twistzz, osee
2021-12-02 20:11
8 replies
brehze is going to valorante. he is done
2021-12-02 20:27
3 replies
Source?
2021-12-03 04:01
2 replies
Have you watched recent EG games?
2021-12-03 15:51
1 reply
they haven't played recently because they're rebuilding their roster they dropped everyone but Brehze and Cerq
2021-12-03 16:41
who IGL?
2021-12-02 20:35
3 replies
naf
2021-12-03 01:21
2 replies
Cringe
2021-12-03 12:47
1 reply
LOL denmark lol
2021-12-04 04:33
#305
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Poland bart0sz
siuuuuu
2021-12-02 21:01
YESSS
2021-12-02 18:09
#3
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United Kingdom _xC4ctus
POGGGGG
2021-12-02 18:09
#4
EliGE | 
Poland Roxin
Pog
2021-12-02 18:09
This is sick
2021-12-02 18:09
Good luck to him if he does <3
2021-12-02 18:09
fallen retire inc
2021-12-02 18:09
osee? rip naf awp
2021-12-02 18:10
9 replies
#52
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Netherlands StephanGH
NAF Doesn't like awping
2021-12-02 18:15
7 replies
#163
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Albania Maltin
He loves it actually, but he is pretty bad with the awp. He was getting some kills because he played passive, but his impact was zero
2021-12-02 18:39
6 replies
What? NAF was massive when he was a main awper LMAO, just a better rifler
2021-12-02 18:45
2 replies
#219
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Albania Maltin
Even i said that he was getting some kills because he was playing extremely passive, but his impact was so low. He would miss such easy shots, and TL would loose every game that he would awp. P.S playing passive means you get easy kills but you loose games
2021-12-02 18:54
1 reply
Silver detected
2021-12-02 23:17
#185
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Netherlands StephanGH
I remember hearing or reading about NAF saying he hated the AWP? Can't really find a source rn so I wont claim its a fact. Might be my memory. Got any source on him saying he loves it? Also he is just a great rifler tbf
2021-12-02 18:45
2 replies
#226
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Albania Maltin
Actually i have no idea about him loving/hatingto awp, i just said that because even when they had nitr0 or stevie2k, he would often take the awp (he was 3rd awper at that time). Imo stewie is much better in the awp, yet its NAF who awped
2021-12-02 18:56
No back then when nitro was igl and awp and if liqu8d was losing naf used to say give me awp and then he gets multikill hes like dupreeh good as 2nd awp.and holding angles but doesnt know how to position or read opponents as a main awp
2021-12-02 19:04
NAF on the main AWP would be a waste
2021-12-02 18:28
GOOD NEWS!
2021-12-02 18:09
Shox support rip
2021-12-02 18:09
2 replies
+1
2021-12-02 19:11
He’s gonna be a good support because of his game knowledge
2021-12-02 20:25
Floppy > shox Imagine shit communication with 29 y shox
2021-12-02 18:10
17 replies
need this
2021-12-02 18:11
+1 why shox when floppy is just better in every way
2021-12-02 18:11
#32
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Germany zborko
lol
2021-12-02 18:12
This. Shox makes no sense, he and NAF are both lurkers.
2021-12-02 18:13
#55
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Georgia Megobari
+1
2021-12-02 18:15
Yes vitality should keep shox kick mitsuta
2021-12-02 18:15
3 replies
+1
2021-12-02 19:02
+1 shox wins clutches
2021-12-02 19:42
lol misutaa is a key player like amanek in g2 you talk shit knowing nothing
2021-12-13 05:21
+1 Why wouldn't you bring in floppy makes 0 sense Dudes playing out of his mind even in EU
2021-12-02 18:19
3 replies
#316
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United States stotte
Extra Salt is playing against the likes of Sprout, mouz Academy, and DBL Poney. This is no indication that he'd fare well against tier 1 opposition EDIT: And they got stomped by ECSTATIC
2021-12-02 21:29
2 replies
gotta start somewhere also i feel like if youre semi-effortlessly getting at least a 1.20 rating vs tier 2 you can play vs tier 1 you can only improve with experience also define stomp it was a 2-0 sure but both maps went the distance with 29/30 rounds
2021-12-02 21:41
played t1 competition on c9 and played pretty decent in his roles, no reason not to give him a chance in an actually functional system
2021-12-02 23:36
#130
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United States Topher
+1
2021-12-02 18:27
Please, we need this so bad
2021-12-02 19:01
Grim > floppy
2021-12-02 19:50
+1 bring in shox would be make no sense for them .. i would rather try to convince stew to stay or take one more player from ES than bring in 29 y/o shox with terrible english
2021-12-03 18:21
#12
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Japan LastSupper
Rip m0nesy
2021-12-02 18:10
Junior 2.0 good luck getting positive rating against t1
2021-12-02 18:10
3 replies
he will farm so much Vespin gas with Zergs them Koreans can click the buttons 10 times faster than your typical american
2021-12-02 18:50
#213
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United States Jeebur
yeah except osee actually speaks his teams language
2021-12-02 18:51
Osee 10 times better than junior lol
2021-12-02 21:09
keep stewie instead of shox and this could be great
2021-12-02 18:10
2 replies
+1
2021-12-02 18:45
They'll keep 2 chinese players in an NA team? I aren't think that
2021-12-05 16:55
#15
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United States Rayduh
Liquid win major
2021-12-02 18:10
#16
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France Uexo
I just don't get why the fuck is shox here ??
2021-12-02 18:10
2 replies
Nobody does, even shox can't believe it
2021-12-02 18:44
1 reply
xaxaxa
2021-12-02 18:46
#17
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Bulgaria VenTMG
NICE
2021-12-02 18:10
#18
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Sweden cslipo
shox doesn't really make sense to me, does he really want to relocate to na at nearly 30 years old?
2021-12-02 18:10
8 replies
Especially with a wife and child? That's a weird move.
2021-12-02 18:14
3 replies
#97
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Luxembourg Aybars1
maybe he wants to live in US or thinks that d be better for family idk
2021-12-02 18:21
2 replies
I guess it's possible, it happens. It also may have to do with Liquid staying in Europe more, too. Hard to say.
2021-12-02 18:22
1 reply
#319
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United States stotte
This seems sensible with the hollowing out of the NA scene
2021-12-02 21:33
#168
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Europe Juuzou_
Thought exactly the same, tbh i dont see this happening.
2021-12-02 18:40
#216
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United States Jeebur
Id say VINI over Shox tbh.
2021-12-02 18:52
maybe the paycheck's better?
2021-12-03 01:50
#370
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Ireland reyno0o
He said in an interview recently that he bought a house as well... does seem like a weird time to relocate to NA if he does
2021-12-03 08:26
#19
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United States Rayduh
Time to win a major boys!!!!
2021-12-02 18:11
8 replies
+vini -shox and Liquid win Major and also a new fan (me)
2021-12-02 18:14
7 replies
#113
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Slovakia Daev0n
That is probably why they didn't get VINI.
2021-12-02 18:24
4 replies
They didn't get TACO or FalleN either, right?
2021-12-02 18:27
3 replies
We want the players not you
2021-12-02 21:27
2 replies
NT Devin Booker
2021-12-02 22:03
1 reply
sorry it me trav soct
2021-12-02 23:34
#217
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United States Jeebur
I wouldve personally gone for VINI, makes more sense role wise.
2021-12-02 18:52
1 reply
#247
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Norway irnak2
yeah I agree 100%, but we will see
2021-12-02 19:11
#20
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United Kingdom Jerry2805
Rip extra salt
2021-12-02 18:11
4 replies
#159
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United States Topher
rip indeed ),:
2021-12-02 18:35
#215
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United States Jeebur
Maybe Junior will slot in well, only time will tell
2021-12-02 18:52
2 replies
rather have pwnalone than junior on ES
2021-12-02 20:33
1 reply
#296
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United States Jeebur
no offense to pwn but hes already 30 and junior is on paper better in just about every way
2021-12-02 20:49
#21
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Bahrain Ax1yn
Expected.
2021-12-02 18:11
at this point way too many reports so idk if i believe it
2021-12-02 18:11
2 replies
#99
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Belgium Woke!
I don’t really believe it honesty, I don’t think he’ll leave es until at least after EPL
2021-12-02 18:21
1 reply
Oh yes he will, Extra Salt won't be able to match Liquids paycheck, to retain him. They should let Junior take Osee's place.
2021-12-02 18:28
yes yes yes yes yes
2021-12-02 18:11
POG
2021-12-02 18:11
#26
JT | 
United States cybonics
HUGE PICKUP
2021-12-02 18:11
WORST PICK UP EVER SHOX
2021-12-02 18:11
I BELIEVE IN THE OSEE SUPREMACY
2021-12-02 18:11
#30
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Ukraine ksay
oh shit
2021-12-02 18:11
+Floppy???
2021-12-02 18:11
NO SHOX PLS
2021-12-02 18:12
LETS GOOO now -shox + floppy or Rush plz
2021-12-02 18:12
TOP 3 team with shoxie JESUS
2021-12-02 18:12
#36
Dosia | 
Russia Rapu
Looks strong
2021-12-02 18:12
y shox vini better
2021-12-02 18:12
Pog
2021-12-02 18:12
Shox doesn't really fit in there, I reckon. The language will definitely be an issue as well. But if shox is motivated, then who cares :D
2021-12-02 18:13
5 replies
#169
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Europe Juuzou_
Moving with fam + kid is kinda extreme though i think.
2021-12-02 18:41
4 replies
Yes
2021-12-02 18:55
1 reply
#227
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Denmark Alphamon
No? Nice edit
2021-12-02 18:57
i think shox wants to raise kids in usa like surrounded by better circumstances than france
2021-12-13 05:23
1 reply
#467
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Europe Juuzou_
Lol
2021-12-13 20:59
#40
roeJ | 
Romania SkipLD
Nice but I agree with most , please no shox.
2021-12-02 18:12
#41
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Colombia AlejoBuh
shox omg
2021-12-02 18:12
fair enough, shox and fallen are finished
2021-12-02 18:12
2 replies
nvm shox is in aswell
2021-12-02 18:13
1 reply
LOL
2021-12-03 14:42
The best lineup for liquid will be: -NAF -Elige -Stew -Osee -Nitr0
2021-12-02 18:13
Deserved but why couldn’t they have done this awhile ago with the current lineup and benched fallen?
2021-12-02 18:13
13 replies
My guess is he was reluctant, but who knows. At one point it made a ton of sense to lose Stewie and put nitr0 on support (and let Twistzz shine again), but for whatever reason they took the FalleN/Grim approach.
2021-12-02 18:21
10 replies
Maybe who knows. I would have liked to see oSee play with Extra Salt in pro league though.
2021-12-02 18:32
6 replies
Yeah. I feel like them losing oSee is huge. Sonic used to awp, so I wonder if they'll bring him back for that if oSee leaves.
2021-12-02 19:01
5 replies
There’s this guy named 1xotic or something like that from NA who is supposedly really good. He is a premier player but a lan dodger. Who knows what will happen.
2021-12-02 19:05
4 replies
Oh. Yeah. I feel like I recall some drama surrounding him ditching LAN? That feels like a risk for someone like ES, who are looking to play LANs. I don't know much about the sub-top of CS these days.
2021-12-02 19:22
1 reply
I heard about it from friends and faceit pugs but pretty much he said he would goto this lan and said he couldn’t last minute or whatever because of family reasons so they looked into it and turns out he lied about the reason why so idk
2021-12-02 19:30
#320
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United States stotte
Recall that xotic played for Splyce a long time ago for Pro League hltv.org/stats/players/matches/14109/xot..
2021-12-02 21:37
1 reply
Yeah but I'm talking about more recently of him dodging lans pretty sure.
2021-12-02 21:59
They didn’t originally want Grim, they originally wanted to replace nitr0 with oSee and I think Twistzz with floppy but they couldn’t get them. nitr0 was already out the door so they picked up Grim. This didn’t address their need for an awper so when Twistzz left they picked up FalleN. A series of unfortunate events.
2021-12-03 14:44
2 replies
Well originally oSee stuck with ES through an offer for him and floppy from C9. As far as Liquid wanting him, well, I had never heard that but they'd have been stupid not to. At least in the context that they needed a real AWP. Unfortunately not ditching Stewie for an AWP, and trying to keep Twistzz, was probably their biggest mistake, but who knows what goes on behind closed doors.
2021-12-03 15:46
1 reply
I think, while Twistzz is an incredible player, players that fulfill Twistzz roles are a dime a dozen. Stewie, however, is a very rare player. You can pick up a Grim and slot him into Twistzz role and he will be fine, you could not do the same with slotting him into Stewies role.
2021-12-03 22:36
#277
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United Kingdom VenoK
the problem with that lineup was not results but the team chemistry was very bad so just -fallen wouldnt fix it
2021-12-02 20:03
1 reply
True Either everything was clicking or everything was misfiring
2021-12-02 20:09
FalleN :(
2021-12-02 18:13
#49
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Brazil Anarchybr
WTF?? YOU GUYS CHOSE SHOX OVER VINI?????
2021-12-02 18:14
10 replies
Maybe they chose neither
2021-12-02 18:16
9 replies
#233
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Finland HARD4ENCE
Wouldn't be surprised after the community backlash. nitr0 EliGE NAF oSee Brehze/oBo Now, this would be something.
2021-12-02 18:58
8 replies
I hate both of those options for the 5th
2021-12-02 19:17
3 replies
#263
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Finland HARD4ENCE
Who would you rather have? Stewie?
2021-12-02 19:37
1 reply
Yes
2021-12-02 21:01
+1
2021-12-02 23:56
Doubt Brezhe but Obo could be really good
2021-12-02 19:59
2 replies
#278
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United Kingdom VenoK
+1 or floppy
2021-12-02 20:03
1 reply
True, just a few months back from Valorant and he's already consistently top fragging for ES
2021-12-02 20:04
#371
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Ireland reyno0o
Too many star players again. They screwed up Grim by trying to change him into a support. They need a true support player. Same reason why they aren't getting floppy perhaps
2021-12-03 08:29
#51
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Sweden MalcomReed
LETS GOOOOOOO
2021-12-02 18:14
#53
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Brazil hugoooo
FINALLY Now it's time for FURIA to save saffee
2021-12-02 18:15
#54
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Finland Cucumber))
VINI > shox
2021-12-02 18:15
1 reply
for this team 100%
2021-12-02 18:27
#56
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United States joke_cs
Please keep Stew let this man be in Liquid with a good awper for once in his life please please please, ez grand slams so ez plz plz plz
2021-12-02 18:15
5 replies
rumors say he's going to EG, why not let's see
2021-12-02 18:16
3 replies
#71
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United States joke_cs
EG with no NAF tho :(
2021-12-02 18:17
2 replies
which IGL though for EG? Marke?
2021-12-02 18:19
1 reply
#174
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United States joke_cs
If Stew joins he will probably be IGL
2021-12-02 18:42
damn wrong comment section sorry
2021-12-02 18:18
#57
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Asia Blitzer
cool mens
2021-12-02 18:15
To be honest their roster actually would be quite good with oSee and nitr0, and shox is good too because of his great personality and vibes, I think he will be very important to this team morale-wise. Hopefully these roster moves actually happen because this team would be awesome to watch!
2021-12-02 18:15
3 replies
maybe he will even make Elige smile
2021-12-02 18:19
2 replies
#125
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Slovakia Daev0n
with his pepperoni nipples
2021-12-02 18:26
1 reply
I said smile, not horny
2021-12-02 18:29
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOO
2021-12-02 18:15
#61
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Turkey TR_top_1
Vini>Shox
2021-12-02 18:15
2 replies
0/8
2021-12-02 18:16
#64
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Brazil ahborba
+1
2021-12-02 18:16
Pog lineup, finally osee being picked Let's see how it goes
2021-12-02 18:16
2 replies
I don’t know much about him. He’s good lately?
2021-12-02 18:31
1 reply
the only promising NA player atm imo, he's been shining for months. Liquid would be a good step up for him
2021-12-02 18:33
#65
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Europe LimGardz
that's what i want to see
2021-12-02 18:16
Expected... Hope he does well. Maybe get floppy? I don't know. Just not shox.
2021-12-02 18:16
1 reply
give him a few months first, he's back from valo
2021-12-02 18:17
TL will have the worst comms ever Shox has such a bad ENGLISH
2021-12-02 18:16
#70
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Sweden KennyKEX
lol bot TL
2021-12-02 18:17
1 reply
Team Liquid <3
2021-12-02 18:46
#72
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Brazil Largato
Vini would fit better than shox, NAF already lurks
2021-12-02 18:18
Finally, liquid top1 2022
2021-12-02 18:17
#76
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Croatia lucubista
-shox +VINI
2021-12-02 18:18
Even though Shox has achieved more in CS and is more experienced Elige prob still has an ego and won't listen to him.
2021-12-02 18:18
SHOX WHY LIQUID STOP SIGNING WASHED UP PLAYERS PLEASE
2021-12-02 18:18
washed up nitr0 and shox along with out of form elige. why do they even bother with roster changes then.
2021-12-02 18:18
1-2 years late, these big orgs always waste time
2021-12-02 18:19
Well, that's better than having vini and nitr0 as an awper.
2021-12-02 18:19
-Shox +Fang
2021-12-02 18:19
#86
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China $harlen
Pog
2021-12-02 18:19
Now that you can toss the second AWP to Nitr0, there's really no need for shox. I love shox, I do, but bringing him in makes even less sense now than it did before.
2021-12-02 18:20
TUBARÃO LINGUIÇA >>>>> SHOX
2021-12-02 18:20
-shox +floppy please
2021-12-02 18:20
1 reply
#127
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United States Topher
+1
2021-12-02 18:27
#93
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Sweden cptbobsy
just change shox now and it could be good
2021-12-02 18:20
pog
2021-12-02 18:20
#95
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Russia KPbIM
They wanna keep playing under the american flag, that's the only reason they're signing this dude lul
2021-12-02 18:21
Would Love to see Nitro back. Just a lot of good vibes and confidence in where they were going when he was on the team. Glad to see NAF and Elige staying on it too. Too bad Faze is holding onto Twitzz.
2021-12-02 18:21
On one hand, it is sad to see m0nesy is not coming - he was the dream. On the other, good to see that they are bringing in a proper AWPer. Shox is super weird in this team, don't understand it. VINI would be better imo as a 5th.
2021-12-02 18:21
support?
2021-12-02 18:21
#103
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Austria Ostmark
POG
2021-12-02 18:22
dont do it man
2021-12-02 18:22
WHO
2021-12-02 18:22
Cool I like it. Hope it works out. Not everyone is gonna be a major winner, but If they can compete i the upper echelons of tier1 then that’s still great. Hell lately they’ve already been doing that
2021-12-02 18:22
Osee pronet
2021-12-02 18:22
Why is washed shox there
2021-12-02 18:23
POG WTF #1 contender FOR SURE not so sure about shox tho and now extrasalt is ruined
2021-12-02 18:24
#112
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Poland rotu_
FINALLY OSEE GETS HIS CHANCE
2021-12-02 18:23
#114
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China CantBanMe
osee so bad idk why they pick him up , could be a top 10-15 team though for sure
2021-12-02 18:24
this seems like a top 1 contender team
2021-12-02 18:25
#116
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Latvia heywire
They should go with VINI instead of shox.
2021-12-02 18:25
3 replies
Yea but they don't have the same roles
2021-12-02 18:26
2 replies
#122
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Latvia heywire
But liquid need suppot player
2021-12-02 18:26
what is Shox role? badly baiting lurk role with no impact
2021-12-02 18:28
Will nitr0 be the IGL?
2021-12-02 18:25
nice
2021-12-02 18:25
Fan of liquid now
2021-12-02 18:25
2 asians on team? dang
2021-12-02 18:26
#123
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United States Topher
oSee fr leaving ES for this?? (Floppy>Shox)
2021-12-02 18:26
-shox +VINI would be awesome
2021-12-02 18:26
#129
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United States 3manu3l
OMG NO WAY
2021-12-02 18:27
nitr0 and shox are bad choices but osee is a decent pick-up
2021-12-02 18:27
#132
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Poland sosiad
finally, he deserve it
2021-12-02 18:28
nice!! now -shox please, there are better and younger players in NA... +floppy would be great
2021-12-02 18:28
replace Shox and its a solid roster
2021-12-02 18:28
#135
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Poland dejmanOOO
Hmm, maybe top10 team
2021-12-02 18:28
i wanna see vini instead of shox
2021-12-02 18:29
#141
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United States vox_3
EliGE is the true problem of Liquid, which nobody seems to notice.
2021-12-02 18:29
WOW WHOS SUPRISED BY THIS ONE
2021-12-02 18:29
#143
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Other the_dark
Liquid destroying ES team but lets gooooo!
2021-12-02 18:30
#144
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Brazil Nicolito
Probably VINI instead of shox. Reports in Brazil and warming up so much for VINI in Liquid, even if gringos didn't learn that.
2021-12-02 18:30
at that point might as well get Vini instead of shox
2021-12-02 18:30
1 reply
they have enough firepower anyway, need more supporting role, unless they havent learned anything from their current roster
2021-12-02 18:32
1.1 rating awper Wohoooo lets go
2021-12-02 18:31
they should add floppy
2021-12-02 18:31
I don't beleive shox move. But if that happens then it will be so dope.
2021-12-02 18:31
Keep STEWIE2K PLEASE OR STEWIE2K PLEASE STAY :)
2021-12-02 18:32
1 reply
but we might be able to see stew and auti reunite :( also its lulquid cmon raise those standards bruv
2021-12-04 02:41
#155
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Ukraine d3adLY
very bad...
2021-12-02 18:34
Not a great roster. I don’t see nitro and shox doing much. Would’ve much rather seen liquid go after younger talent.
2021-12-02 18:34
1 reply
Hopefully they dont get shox but nitro joining is ok in my book
2021-12-03 00:00
Rather have Stewie than shox
2021-12-02 18:34
#158
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Finland AliSabid
yoo damn
2021-12-02 18:35
SHEEEEEEEEEEEEESHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
2021-12-02 18:38
#162
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Brazil Nicolito
- adren + peacemaker
2021-12-02 18:38
Get nitro off the roster Keep Grim
2021-12-02 18:39
4 replies
they got short era with nitr0 nitr0 is great ingame leader
2021-12-02 18:40
2 replies
then he went to play another game and is thrown back into a team that wants to be tier 1
2021-12-02 18:43
1 reply
cause they went down and lost motivation after losing era out of majors i dont know how he felt at that time but i still believe he is a great cs player
2021-12-02 18:45
#183
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Italy steven513
+1 I don't understand how people think picking up nitr0 is a good move. He was bad before he left for Valorant, and he'll certainly be bad now.
2021-12-02 18:44
he is great awper
2021-12-02 18:40
#167
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South Africa ZNDC
:( rip es
2021-12-02 18:40
F Fallen. But Osee is what Liquid needs. Although I'd like to see Vini instead of shoxie
2021-12-02 18:41
Liquid will keep stewie hes way too vital for them in terms of entry support and etc fallen and grim to go for nitro and osee i don't see what shox provides apart from insides of vitality team xD + he has to get used to calling faster in english no way liquid risk that
2021-12-02 18:42
#173
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Czech Republic pavik00
Take Junior instead of shox
2021-12-02 18:42
1 reply
#195
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North America soduk_db
Uhh so why would Liquid need three main AWP's I'm confused lol
2021-12-02 18:46
#175
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United States Waagz
I don't know why they would take Shox with Naf playing a similar role. I love the Osee pickup. I think he is going to be a strong AWPer going forward for the team. I would like them to keep the team North American based, with the pickup of floppy instead of Shox.
2021-12-02 18:43
3 replies
Shox will probably play a more supportive role now. He could help nitr0 with the calling aswell
2021-12-02 18:46
2 replies
#202
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United States Waagz
So what role is Naf going to play?
2021-12-02 18:48
1 reply
He‘ll keep his lurker role around? Naf-fly is an allrounder for me
2021-12-02 18:48
Vini would fit so much better then shox, I have no clue what liquid are doing
2021-12-02 18:43
#177
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Turkey rs6a
xaxaxaxa na tier 10 forever
2021-12-02 18:43
#179
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Australia Australis
please no shox
2021-12-02 18:44
#181
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Ukraine futplxyer
LETS GOOOOO but rip Extra Salt
2021-12-02 18:44
LIQUID TOP 1 LETS FUCKING GO. FINALLY SOME GOOD MOVES elige naf nitr0 osee _____ this will be a fucking banger team
2021-12-02 18:44
8 replies
No, it won't.
2021-12-02 18:46
6 replies
5 replies
You fell hard.
2021-12-02 18:47
4 replies
2021-12-02 18:47
3 replies
too much sugar in your diet.
2021-12-02 18:57
2 replies
#196 lmk when your country has any relevancy in cs
2021-12-02 18:58
1 reply
Don't be upset, your scened used to be relevant i guess :)
2021-12-02 19:03
cya in a few months malding when they perform even worse than this present lineup
2021-12-02 22:32
GO Liquid!!!! USA USA USA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2021-12-02 18:46
#190
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Sweden HYPPE1
EG stewie2k autimatic tarik brehze cerq
2021-12-02 18:46
#191
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Israel Xpicyy
I sense NA's comeback
2021-12-02 18:46
Still wifs
2021-12-02 18:46
You still have Nitr0 there though
2021-12-02 18:47
#203
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North America soduk_db
EliGE - NAF - nitr0 - oSee - floppy would have been the better choice IMO.
2021-12-02 18:48
are they really gonna add shox in the lineup? please his english is mid and he's far away from his form. i don't see a upgrade here.
2021-12-02 18:49
#207
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Brazil wendsilva
Good Luck Liquid!
2021-12-02 18:50
#210
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Biske
this roster can actually work
2021-12-02 18:51
#214
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Switzerland Tyrsk
Great lineup and a good opportunity for shox, if he gets a good role i'm sure he will impress a lot of ppl.
2021-12-02 18:51
#218
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Hungary szia
I would LOVE to see this roster
2021-12-02 18:53
lol, chinese wonder kid ... so cs in NA will soon look like a VaLOLant tournament?
2021-12-02 18:54
1 reply
They should have kept Stewie for that to happen
2021-12-05 16:57
not gonna work
2021-12-02 18:54
#223
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Canada Poulex
Osee is an amazing move, he is an amazing awper and can carry hard. By far the best awper in NA and can be a huge step on Fallen. I would also keep stewie over shox or look into bringing Floppy instead. Also, there is pretty good players in Party Astronauts that are orgless. Infinite or cynic would be great replacements too.
2021-12-02 18:55
Has anyone watched him play? He's about consistent as Junior, they're both not consistent for AWP work.....................
2021-12-02 18:55
wtf I dont get this lineup
2021-12-02 18:57
RIP vini
2021-12-02 18:58
#232
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Sweden ezwuo
I was worried before but now with NAF and oSee joining EliGE the firepower potential of this team is pretty good. If oSee is good then it just remains to be seen if shox can mesh in an NA team and if nitr0 still got it now that he's back.
2021-12-02 19:01
thats a very insane sign for New liquid
2021-12-02 19:00
This roster could be insane PAAAG
2021-12-02 19:04
bro what
2021-12-02 19:07
This is honestly a pretty great looking team. Shox is a bit strange though he would have to really prove himself with the firepower. I would have said Brehze or floppy instead and that would be *chefs kiss* lights out buuuuut we gotta see. Great awp, great IGL, great duo top fraggers. Not bad!
2021-12-02 19:08
#245
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Other Zollbit
Let's wait and oSee
2021-12-02 19:08
1 reply
#391
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France Ghoul98
LOL my man 😎😎😎😎
2021-12-03 15:49
Well this roster looks a lot better.
2021-12-02 19:09
#249
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Hungary zy_k
then m0nesy G2 confirmed?
2021-12-02 19:12
interesting
2021-12-02 19:13
-shox +floppy
2021-12-02 19:15
sheeeeeeesh
2021-12-02 19:19
shox OMEGALUL
2021-12-02 19:22
EG losing
2021-12-02 19:25
Finally Liquid
2021-12-02 19:28
shox wont be there
2021-12-02 19:29
#261
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Kazakhstan y2o99
Rip ES Rip na cs
2021-12-02 19:31
ez for god oSee
2021-12-02 19:33
1 reply
I love how alt accounts pop up so fast on HLTV
2021-12-05 16:56
lmao, this theam will be dogshit, hear me out they will lose to Fallen + Boltz + Fer Core HAHA GET REKT LIQUID
2021-12-02 19:37
Not sold on Vini or Shox joining
2021-12-02 19:38
love osee! hes my second fav player after stew im conflicted
2021-12-02 19:51
How about -shox and +vini Young blood that can support the „old“ veterans of liquid In germany we say to womans „vallah du bist ne 11/10 mies geile titten“
2021-12-02 19:56
Makes sense, the only thing that makes no sense to me on this lineup is shox. Like why?
2021-12-02 19:58
Vini is a bum and floppy hasnt done shit since his return.hopefully Osee can leave his friends
2021-12-02 20:01
#274
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Denmark N1nQa
pog
2021-12-02 20:01
#275
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Brazil wololo10
That was so obvious
2021-12-02 20:01
#276
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Brazil wololo10
VINI > shox any day
2021-12-02 20:02
4 replies
Lol
2021-12-02 20:04
LMAO
2021-12-02 20:14
#298
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United States Rayduh
LOL
2021-12-02 20:49
Fallen was bad so liquid didn't. trust any brazilian anymore
2021-12-02 21:16
#281
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Brazil wololo10
Now bring back Twistzz
2021-12-02 20:07
#284
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Hungary hurr1cxne
it doesnt make any sens, 3 awpers in the roster, keep fallen, gets vini, ggs!
2021-12-02 20:13
Lessssgoooooo ooofffff
2021-12-02 20:14
Extra salt better than liquid tho
2021-12-02 20:22
1 reply
just because of oSee
2021-12-02 20:25
Good for oSee he deserves the oportunity, now for extra salt is about time, sadly disband incoming for sure.
2021-12-02 20:30
1 reply
#332
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North America b00tleg
? Floppy and Fang are still good, if they get junior and bring him into a good system I can see them staying about where they are now
2021-12-02 22:25
#294
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Denmark Bremz
-shox +autimatic, ez major
2021-12-02 20:38
Finally this tank getting a chance playing with the big boys. Nice to (o)see
2021-12-02 20:48
Kick shox trash and get best NA youngster Infinite. Then they can achieve something
2021-12-02 20:49
6 replies
#299
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United States Rayduh
Infinite 30 yo talent
2021-12-02 20:50
3 replies
23 yo🤨
2021-12-02 20:50
2 replies
He consufed him with his sibling pwnalone
2021-12-02 21:00
1 reply
Maybe he's drunk. It's already 3 o'clock pm in the US. Time for beer
2021-12-02 21:02
#324
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United States stotte
N-bomb legend Gage "I Hate Minorities" Green
2021-12-02 21:44
1 reply
Hahahaha he really said that?
2021-12-02 22:23
didnt nitr0 quit for valorant like a year ago? the fuck happened? washed trash
2021-12-02 20:55
2 replies
Prolly cause valorant is an ass game and the only “pros” only play it cause they couldn’t get paid in cs
2021-12-02 21:08
Floppy left and came back and looks on point. You might not believe this but because they’re both similar FPS games the transition back over isn’t that crazy. He could have a similar feeling as floppy did of missing CS.
2021-12-03 00:05
-shox +Twistzz
2021-12-02 20:56
This will be a spectacular fail of a team.
2021-12-02 21:03
#312
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Canada AyyyJayyy
OK NOW -SHOX AND ADD OBO AND NOW WE'RE TALKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2021-12-02 21:11
#318
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Brazil SpirtF
OMEGALUL team
2021-12-02 21:32
Its a nice time to buy some stickers? Can value ? If yes i will take some GOLDS hltv.org/news/32901/copenhagen-flames-cl..
2021-12-02 21:38
#323
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Other pain^
shox in this lineup just makes no sense at all
2021-12-02 21:42
#328
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Portugal joaosenra
Naf should have go EG and play with cerq and brehze, and build a super team this liquid new team looks decent but no superteam
2021-12-02 22:07
Why shox and not floppy? Shox is old man who lives in EU, makes no sense. Even keeping grim would make more sense
2021-12-02 23:33
#340
Xyp9x | 
Indonesia he_J
Wheres koosta rn
2021-12-02 23:37
2 replies
Valurante
2021-12-03 09:17
#450
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United States gweees
Geng val
2021-12-10 13:44
All this hype to be smacked by FURIA on NA RMR 🤣🤣
2021-12-02 23:37
Yeah I love Shox, huge fan of his… but I don’t get the fit. With NAF signing you have a lurker… Shox would probably be willing to play support and he’s a great teammate with tons of experience but it’s better to invest in to someone who’s younger. Rip Extra Salt :(
2021-12-02 23:58
Well, if they get oSee I don't see how Nitro returns. I like oSee, but Nitro wasn't all that great as an AWPer towards the end, and his rifling has traditionally been worse than his AWPing. If the team adds Nitro on top of oSee, there will be role clashes. And role clashes is what dethroned Liquid during their golden era, and has been a recurring issue for the last year and a half with Grim. Nitro as a pure IGL and second AWP sounds better, but I still find it worrisome that he's bringing very little firepower and, going based on past tendencies, very simple default strats. Liquid is likely to become one dimensional. It might secure them a top 5 ranking based on talent alone, but they won't be winning major tournaments with their firepower.
2021-12-03 00:16
1 reply
I don't remember nitr0 being worse with rifles than with awp, he was always pretty good rifler and was pretty much forced into awping+igl
2021-12-03 03:00
oSee god of awp 👍🏻
2021-12-03 00:52
Shox canbe a morals booster and happy guy keeping the smiles high but other than that it's a silly sign
2021-12-03 01:42
If Nitr0 has 5 million fans I am one of them. If Nitr0 has ten fans I am one of them. If Nitr0 has only one fan, then that is me. If Nitr0 has no fans, that means I am no more on the Earth. If the world is against Nitr0, I am against the world. Welcome back The King of Overpass 👑
2021-12-03 01:57
1 reply
LOL
2021-12-05 16:33
aha floppy aha
2021-12-03 02:22
vini>shox
2021-12-03 02:28
wtf this lineup? GG
2021-12-03 02:46
1 reply
its very cool wdym
2021-12-11 07:06
no way this is actually happening
2021-12-03 02:59
Finally -Stewie10AM -BOT Grim
2021-12-03 03:36
vini?
2021-12-03 04:06
instead of shox they should just get god giga-chad floppy to pair up with oSee because of the chem there also I feel like roles would clash less cause floppy has exprience playing a support role.
2021-12-03 06:47
-shox +vini
2021-12-03 07:07
This would be sick ass hell man! This man deserve a change to play at a top tier level, on Cloud9 they didnt bring what they needed to bring at a team lvl basis but on a personal level he is insane in my opinion! GLHF Osee lets hope this will work for ya
2021-12-03 09:01
#373
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Philippines B3nk4i
Solid move. I personally think naf does better when he's the secondary awp and not the main awper. And osee is the best awper they could have gotten in NA right now so yeah solid move
2021-12-03 09:05
Kekw bot
2021-12-03 09:55
shox igl? oh no
2021-12-03 10:26
oSee makes sense, I can agree with this. And as many say, swap Vini for shox and this could be a plausible lineup if nitr0 is not in dead form, since he was pretty bad when leaving to Valorant.
2021-12-03 12:22
welcome
2021-12-03 12:24
#383
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Brazil JgzMcz
nitr0 omegalul
2021-12-03 12:47
Pog , could be a solid team - not sure about shox though
2021-12-03 15:13
please no shox .. i respect him as a player but this move would make no sense for both parties rather than paycheck stealing. i would rather convince stew to stay instead bring in 29 y/o shox with terrible english
2021-12-03 18:23
4 replies
for Liquid to suffer 2 more years and then read about "oSee and nitr0 were 2 shit players had to tell them what to do and guide them with hand" Stewie is dumb as fuck for not taking responsibilities of TL's failings. No snakes plz
2021-12-04 03:31
2 replies
yeah im with you with that, but what im trying to say is bringing shox it just weird and when i said i prefer stew it actually said a lot about the idea +shox than stew himself .. they should get another NA player instead of shox probably another ES player or maybe +Vini could happen? idk but bring in shox it just made no sense for me.
2021-12-04 03:36
1 reply
well yea, feels kinda strange, but lets see if it will work out. Might be very refreshing for shox to play with easy minded good vibes Liquid and for NA to take some of that EU mentality and strats
2021-12-04 03:54
stewies worse than shox honestly and if anyones stealing paychecks it’s Stewie for the past 2 years
2021-12-11 17:54
VINI > shox
2021-12-03 19:15
oSee is pretty stupid. So I hope Liquid boys will share some experience with him and make him a cs go machine. Gl, I like the roster
2021-12-04 03:29
#407
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Australia Aersia
Nitro? Shox? Yikes.
2021-12-04 08:36
Shox from Vitality is always clutch his kills is always important and crucial. Always the last player standing.
2021-12-04 16:03
shox and nitr0 kekw from bottom tier1 to bottom tier5
2021-12-05 13:33
tier 3
2021-12-06 06:49
get rid of elige, hes the reason why liquid never evolves. also replace nitr0 or shox with vini.
2021-12-06 09:11
-Shox
2021-12-06 09:34
Fallen will create a new team, same model TACO did with GODSENT.
2021-12-06 18:51
2 replies
#443
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Korea yokol
fallen taco fnx fer coldzera or -fer +felps
2021-12-08 14:21
1 reply
Taco will not abandon GODSENT, also Felps. Coldzera said on interview that he'll not be part, at least soon. Coldzera is a good player but interested on paychecks, might be toxic and Fallen is trying to build the most Friendly team he can. FNX did not show great interest to be part even though it is the only one with no team right now. (FNX is well spoken by all of them, about his mechanical skills, but some say that bad friendships ruined his career if you know what I mean). I believe Fer will be part of the team, but I think he is one of the most out of the current meta, aim outdated,tatics, movements etc.. Personally I think the team will be most for FUN, to merchandise Fer and Boltz skins site and to prepare the new guys. Fallen, Fer, Boltz and two promising youngsters. Remote chance that Vini will be together.
2021-12-08 14:46
- shox - nitro + fallen + NAF
2021-12-07 17:02
Good roster but why they need shox? (29 yo)
2021-12-07 19:15
I'd rather have vini over shox tbh, shox is still good, but his roles might clash with naf
2021-12-07 21:30
#440
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Brazil aeeio
gl to liquid
2021-12-07 21:35
Shox tier 1,5 player
2021-12-08 02:31
#442
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Korea yokol
lol
2021-12-08 14:20
no report bro pls
2021-12-08 19:53
#447
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India slavloli
shox will make it work, nice lineup might even become liquid fan if they take it seriously
2021-12-08 21:31
Destroy Extra Salt ehhh
2021-12-10 13:41
No Shox ffs, he is kinda old, similar and worse than Naf and not really good at english, that would be shit move imo, i mean he is good player just isn't for this Liquid team
2021-12-11 02:09
I would've recommended Liquid to wait for a bit and sign kenny Ngl his style and role don't sync.
2021-12-11 06:57
2 replies
duuude kennys its over
2021-12-11 07:05
1 reply
i refuse to believe
2021-12-11 09:26
Another flop project waste of time
2021-12-11 12:10
Swap washed up shox with an up and comer like fang and this lineup would have serious potential
2021-12-11 17:52
1 reply
+1 no idea why they didnt go for fang
2021-12-12 20:36
shox? i like him but i doubt he can speak fluent english...
2021-12-13 05:19
1 reply
french english>fluent english
2021-12-13 22:56
#470
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United States Scvboy1
They should add Coldzera instead of Shoxs
2021-12-15 03:54
Please, dont
2021-12-15 07:13
#478
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Brazil SpirtF
liquid will disband in 1 year :)
2021-12-17 23:59
OMEGALUL See
2021-12-19 09:25
nitr0 hahahahaha lol good luck for naf
2021-12-20 16:13
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