Vitality Esports Director: "When this team starts winning, we will win for a long, long time"

Fabien "Neo" Devide gave insight into the team's 2021, the blockbuster signings, and the strategic shift that comes with "Vitality 2.0" in an extensive interview with HLTV.org.

One report shocked the Counter-Strike world like few others did in 2021. Early on Saturday, November 6, it was revealed that Astralis' era-defining trio of Peter "⁠dupreeh⁠" Rasmussen, Emil "⁠Magisk⁠" Reif, and Danny "⁠zonic⁠" Sørensen were leaving the Danish team and were going to start the upcoming season in the jerseys of the most recognizable French organization Vitality. To accommodate the international turn, revered coach Rémy "⁠XTQZZZ⁠" Quoniam, icon of the francophone scene Richard "⁠shox⁠" Papillon, and rookie Jayson "⁠Kyojin⁠" Nguyen Van would be making way.

Neo pulled back the curtain on Vitality's 2021 (Photo courtesy of Vitality)

The move from Vitality left people astounded and in disbelief. But perhaps it shouldn't have. Perhaps we just weren't listening closely enough.

Understanding the cycle

Since entering CS:GO in 2018, Vitality have been an organization that talks openly about their plans and, more often than not, follows through on them. "This is not a short-term project," they said after signing some of the best players France had to offer alongside young prospect Mathieu "⁠ZywOo⁠" Herbaut. The plan of reaching the top 10 in the world was accomplished within six months, as well as participating at both Majors in 2019.

After a fallout at StarLadder Berlin, Nathan "⁠NBK-⁠" Schmitt was removed from the team and replaced by shox, with XTQZZZ going on to say in an interview that this is "the last French-speaking team at Vitality. They know it. I have no problem telling everyone, that's Vitality's vision." Moreso, he explained that even if they won that Major (they were ranked second in the world), the change would've still happened. Sounds familiar?

The beginning of the cycle, Vitality's first French lineup

With ZywOo winning back-to-back player of the year awards in 2019 and 2020, Vitality became a powerhouse name on the scene, being named the third-best team of both years. Having just signed a four-year extension with their superstar, Vitality's Esports Director Fabien "Neo" Devide spoke to HLTV.org at the end of 2020 about his wish to "create a cycle" around ZywOo, signing the best players of the generation. "If they're French, then thank God that we can continue in that direction, but if they're international then we'll probably have to switch at some point." That also rings a bell.

Fast forward a year and Vitality have signed the two players and coach that have won three Majors back-to-back, with dupreeh and zonic even having a fourth one to their name. It is fair to say that they fit the bill for the "best players of the generation," especially when the AWP position on the team is already taken.

Our most recent in-depth talk with Neo makes it easy to understand how Vitality came to make what at first seems like a shocking and drastic change, as he rewinds time to explain the approach. "The goals were super clear from the beginning, back in 2018-19 when we joined CS:GO. We wanted to win titles that mattered and Major tournaments, especially when your biggest prospect ZywOo becomes back-to-back HLTV number one," he says. The French unit won five notable tournaments by the start of 2020, a respectable result, but what was missing was a Major.

"I had a lot of expectations, especially at the beginning when we discussed with XTQZZZ and the guys. We wanted to have a cycle of two to three years, but because of COVID we extended the cycle to at least to have a proper shot." According to Neo, within the team it was clear that 2021 was going to be the last year of the cycle, and that after it, big changes were likely.

Signings, mistakes, and 2021 results

"Winning one or two trophies a year should be a basic expectation, especially when you have the best player in the world, because ZywOo is the best player in the world." Neo says when explaining how he rates his team's year, talking about a standard to which Vitality's weren't living up to until their 'last dance.'

"I won't say it was a disappointing year because it was not. We had a tough beginning, I think at the beginning we needed to digest the six-man roster, implementing it, and then killing it." That tied onto the team losing the majority of their Regional Major Ranking points as the system was reset, and then player issues that were carried on from a successful but busy end of 2020. "We had apEX burnt out, we had RpK being super, super tired, and I think it was the right thing for him to maybe step back from the game at this time. Not because he was not performing well, [...] but it was very complicated for him to be at his peak performance."

That is when Kyojin stepped into the lineup, a rookie with no experience competing at the top level. Knowing that the goal was to go all out for the Major and the cycle was nearing its end, was that signing a mistake?

"The answer is definitely yes. Not a mistake because Kyojin is still an amazing player, and I think he has a bright future in front of him, but he definitely needs more time in tier 1 tournaments. Adding someone unproven and without any experience, I think it was a gamble. It could've paid out on our end, but it did at the end of the day. But definitely, if we wanted to have a shot, a proper shot, we should have hired a veteran at this time."

Neo explains that a more experienced player wasn't hired because there were no suitable one for the anchor role except players that were already in Vitality. The coaching staff and players were aligned in the opinion that Kyojin was the right pick.

"Taking for example NBK- who could have been a better, more of a veteran choice. We already experimented playing together and I don't think it right to go back to what you had before when it didn't work out. Kyojin was our only option, and maybe we overestimated our impact on the progression of Kyojin because of misutaaa — we did wonders with him super fast except for his first month. I think we were in this 'rookie fever' and maybe we were a bit overconfident to make sure that he can deliver, it was probably too much pressure for him and it [the responsibility] is probably on us."

Not all rookies can hit the ground running

With their two last French signings being rookies, Kévin "⁠misutaaa⁠" Rabier and Kyojin, and even the Danish trio coming over on a free transfer, Vitality faced some criticism that they don't want to buy out players. Neo claims that was never the case, except when they had to find a last-minute replacement for Alex "⁠ALEX⁠" McMeekin at the start of 2020.

With the COVID pandemic breaking out at the time, the outlook on upcoming tournaments as well as partnerships and sponsorships was unclear. "In France at that moment most traditional sports clubs — and I remember even Astralis —, were super conservative regarding their finances because of the fear sponsors and partners could just cut budgets. It was a pandemic crisis and there were more important things outside sports and entertainment."

The pandemic wasn't the only issue, a 48-hour window in which a replacement had to be found due to roster locks meant that other organizations found it a good time to ask for "aggressive buyouts." Neo admits Ali "⁠hAdji⁠" Haïnouss was a player they were considering at the time, but the transfer never materialized and they opted for misutaaa, who was already signed as a streamer.

"In the past we were not afraid to invest, look at what we did when we had the choice between kioShiMa and shox. shox was benched on G2 and had an expensive buyout while kioShiMa was free after his time on Cloud9. We were never afraid to invest any money on top players and upgrade the team to make sure that we have the best shot to compete."

In the end, Vitality's 2021 looked strikingly similar to their last two years. "Six months of average and six months of greatness," as Neo describes it. It was after an underwhelming start to the year, when the team briefly fell out of the top 10 and wasn't really in contention for a single title, that he decided it was time to act.

Going international and a new strategy

"The change about becoming international is about the club strategy overall," Neo said as he started to explain the massive overhaul of the team. "We want to accelerate right now, when in the past [in CS:GO], as well as in other games likes LoL, we used to aim for rookies and development." The direction change in League of Legends was apparent in December when their roster featuring "the best European players" was unveiled, following a €50M investment round.

"Right now our place in the industry is pretty obvious. We want to be clear winners in Europe, we want to be the #1 team in Europe in every game and to compete for every Major title and international title in every game. For sure it was more of a switch internally, and an appetite for us to go aggressively and make sure that Vitality is the new powerhouse and can go on to create its own era.

"I don't have any regrets on what we've done before," he continues. "It is not about disappointment or lack of trust with someone like XTQZZZ or something like this. I think XTQZZZ is definitely one of the best coaches in the world, he's amazing, and shox is also a tier 1 player and will have a bright future in front of him. He can play until he's 45 years old, I'm convinced, because he's passionate and he's a really nice guy."

Carrying on with an all-French lineup wasn't impossible, he adds, as there are good sub-top players in the countries that could "fuel our ambitions and give us a proper shot at a Major," but at a strategic level, going global was the decision that was obvious for Vitality.

"I think it was the right timing I guess, to end the cycle of 2-3 years and not finish badly. Sometimes you can finish on a high and positive note and you don't have to have your project implode or players hating each other to suddenly overreact and say 'Oh my god, what am I doing? There is nobody on the market, what should I do? I need to find a substitute and a backup plan.' For the first time, we had a lot of proactivity in the offseason."

Forward-thinking to this degree is rarely seen in Counter-Strike, or at least rarely highlighted. Neo then pulls back the curtain a bit more, revealing that his proactivity about the roster dated back to May of 2021, when Vitality hit their massive slump and even the team's veterans were concerned about reaching their objectives for the year.

Vitality looked invigorated after finding out about the changes

"I told the team that I will not make any decision yet, I will just have interviews with people and probably international players," which led to informal talks. The Danish trio found themselves on the list after Neo heard rumors that they might not want to continue with Astralis.

"I had a polite call with them and it was not a formal interview, I was just asking about CS:GO, their vision and different things, and I think we had a really really good fit with Magisk actually. He used to be in an international project with OpTic back in the day, the way that we talked and the vision that we had, the fact that this is a grown adult, that he knows how to control his emotions, that he is a proven winner... It made the think: 'Wow, this is actually super refreshing to hear.'"

"I had a lot of interviews, actually, I also had a really bad interview with a player, I just had a really bad feeling about it. You know, some players just talk about the money, some just talk about themselves, and when I had Magisk and dupreeh it was super refreshing because they are both proven winners, they don't need to prove themselves. If they wanted to go to a superteam in North America or somewhere else they could've probably gotten 2-3 times more money than what we offered. These guys were just hungry to compete and to win, and to actually create a legacy somewhere outside of Astralis, to maybe prove that they can achieve this and be maybe the biggest legends of the game."

He backs the claim that Magisk and dupreeh are putting success ahead of money by saying they maybe could've earned more if they stayed put. "I think they are being paid well in Vitality, don't worry about that. (laughs) I think they have really good conditions, but I don't think they have a better offer than they had in Astralis."

Magisk left a good impression after the initial interview

Rumors of the Danish trio being a "package deal" for Vitality were confirmed by Neo. "They really wanted to work together, Magisk and dupreeh really wanted to stick together, also with zonic, so I had to consider the full package for sure," he says, adding that he could've fought against it, but there was no point in doing so as they were the three best interviews he had. "I didn't feel like I was forced to do anything."

The package deal was mostly brought up in the context of XTQZZZ's removal, who is considered by many one of the key people behind Vitality's success over the past three years. The team's Esports Director went against continuing with his long-standing coach mainly because of uncertainty around his English, but also the unique things zonic brings.

"I think English was XTQZZZ's weakest point, I think he will catch up super fast to prove me wrong right now, and he will have interviews in English in six months, you will see (laughs), but at the time we were making the decision he wasn't projecting himself in international projects. He had some doubts, and I had the feeling if I'm going in a new cycle with a new team, I need people that are convinced 100%, otherwise we are doing something messy, not laser-focused."

"I have a feeling that XTQZZZ maybe wanted to have another shot with a French team, he was convinced and not convinced at the same time, and I think it was the right moment for us to just end our relationship in a non-dramatic way. Because once again, I'm super grateful, I think he is definitely one of the best in the world, but I think it was the right thing."

The interviews held in May built up to the decision to sign the Danish trio a couple of weeks before the PGL Stockholm Major, something Vitality players would only find out after being eliminated by Natus Vincere in the quarter-finals. "[The players] were pressured by Astralis to know what is going on, they were pressured by other teams because they had unrealistic and crazy offers on the table, so at some point it was a leap of faith and we needed to do it."

"Of course, I wanted to have a proper shot at the Major, that is a tough position because I don't want to say to the guys 'you aren't going to be a part of Vitality' before the Major and maybe crush their chance to achieve something right there. I had a lot of expectations and I wanted to win a Major with them. It would be the best way to actually end this cycle and this team."

Six-man roster, IGL transitions, rookie development — XTQZZZ proved himself as an elite coach

While Vitality didn't pioneer the idea that the coach would be the one holding the power over the team instead of the players, XTQZZZ certainly was one of the standouts in that role. Now, zonic will take the mantle and, together with the management, determine the future of the roster.

"zonic will have control. The trust I put in XTQZZZ, I don't regret any of our decisions and what we've done. It will be the same with zonic, of course he needs to report to me, and we have to make decisions together."

The Dane's goal will be the same one his predecessor had: A cycle of two years, aiming to win the Major.

"He knows from the beginning, I'm crystal clear on this. zonic — you have two years to win a Major, but the biggest difference with this team is that if we win a Major I want to make sure we have a proper shot to win several Majors. That is actually what I expect with this team, that is why we are going with proven winners, that kind of profile. They know how to handle the pressure of being a favorite."

Ultimately, what dupreeh, Magisk, and zonic bring is something new, Neo believes. The knowledge of how to win, how to stay on top, and how to be favorites, which is something Vitality struggled with in the past, often doing better when they were the underdogs in big matches. "If we want to create our own era, our own legacy, we need to grow, we need to handle this kind of pressure, to learn from the best. When you get a shot to have the best in the history of your game, that is a unique opportunity."

Welcome to "How to lift trophies 101" by zonic

The organization's co-founder isn't aiming to outdo Astralis right away and win consecutive Majors, "but having our own era like NAVI is doing right now, or what Liquid managed to do, that is something I want, especially when I have the responsibility of having the best player of the world."

Criticism and expectations

Fast forward to January 5 and the official announcement of the roster, the discussion about Vitality's international direction is reignited, the speculation about what could go wrong is back on the table. An international roster had never won a Major, a divide within the team between the Frenchmen and Danes could happen, and the language barrier alone could cause many issues. Is there reason for concern?

"I agree with them [the critics], it looks scary, and for us, it is a big gamble. When you have your French team being rockstars in France, loved by everyone, and then go international to be hated by all the French right now, risking to maybe lose everything is scary, I won't lie. But at the same time, I want to be the best, I want my team to be the best and to create its own legacy. I need to take this kind of risk."

Unlike G2, who unveiled a promising 16-year-old by implying that they are going for the next Major, Vitality are toning down the early expectations. "The first six months will be super tough, I don't expect us to be contenders for the first six months, to be honest. If it happens, I will be super happy and the process will be shorter compared to my expectations.

"But at the same time, I expect the team, when they find their groove, we have a great synergy, zonic's and our coaching staff's methods are implemented...When that happens I'm pretty sure our ceiling will be 2-3 times higher than what we had in 2021. And also, we have a full cycle of two years where we can project ourselves with stability, same lineup, clear objectives, and clear goals."

Neo continues by saying that people stating that they will fail before they have even started "is toxic," but those people will also fuel Vitality to prove them wrong. "The same as when we did the six-man roster, I remember the whole Reddit was super furious because they thought it was not the right thing to do in the game."

An unexpected partnership has been formed

To battle a divide within the team, which isn't uncommon in situations where the nationality is split 50-50, Vitality have a mix of Danes and Frenchmen in the staff, as well as in key roles in the team. Dan "⁠apEX⁠" Madesclaire will remain the in-game leader, while the co-leader is expected to be Magisk, chipping in with mid-round and pistol calls. zonic will be accompanied by Mathieu "⁠MaT⁠" Leber, XTQZZZ's former assistant, and as an addition to their French backroom staff, they have added Lars Robl, the former sports psychologist of Astralis. "We tried to copy Astralis back in the day with the performance staff, because there is no shame in copying the best, but when you can hire them, then it is more efficient," Neo points out with a smirk.

Even with all of the work they are putting in, Neo makes it clear that it won't completely stop issues from popping up; that is unavoidable in his opinion. "We need to face issues and then to solve them. [...] But definitely, we are aware of what we are doing and we are giving a lot of resources, time, confidence, and trust in our new team."

"We will be there to support them, even if the beginning will be tough, there is no pressure on this. We are clear on what we want to do and for sure, when this team starts winning, we will win for a long, long time."

ZywOo's comfort zone

The team's superstar was certainly the main reason why Vitality was able to attract the players they did, even without offering the highest bids. However, will a transition from a French to English speaking team affect the prodigious sniper negatively? Risking the form of your best player with the international move was a concerning factor for some.

Neo is of a diametrically opposed opinion, as he believes ZywOo is at a point in this career where needs to be challenged not only on the server, but also within his team.

After three years, ZywOo will have a new coach

"ZywOo needs to be out of his comfort zone, to perhaps also learn from someone else and have something to compare. He will keep what XTQZZZ gave them, and then he will also be trained by zonic, a proven winner, who knows how to be a favorite, to win titles again and again and again. I think for us it was a unique opportunity also to make sure that ZywOo will be challenged in practice and in his method, because he can improve. I think people don't realize he is just 21 years old and his margin of improvement and progression is still super-high."

You perhaps noticed that Neo referred to ZywOo as the "best player in the world" multiple times in the interview, saying it in a very confident manner, as if it was a universally accepted fact. He also called him totally unique, gifted, a mutant, The Chosen One, and even a Master Jedi. Asked about that, as well as his main rival Oleksandr "⁠s1mple⁠" Kostyliev, he says the following:

"s1mple is definitely the best player in 2021 (laughs). And he is super good and I have a lot of respect for the guy because he is so consistent, consistently super-good, he can completely change the game on his own. A lot of respect for s1mple, but you know, I had a lot of players in my life, in other games as well, but ZywOo is totally unique. He is pure instinct, the way he sees things, he is so unique. ZywOo is gifted when s1mple is probably a super-hard worker, dedicated to his own sport and I have a ton of respect for him, but I think ZywOo is a phenomenon.

"Of course, it would be a controversial headline, for sure, but what am I supposed to do, say s1mple is the best in the world? I will never say this because I'm convinced that it is ZywOo, also because of the way he behaves outside of the server. Keep in mind that at 19 years old he joined us and right away became the ZywOo in the space of 2-3 months. This is totally unique, no? I don't mind it actually if people criticize the fact that I'm biased about my players, but it is just that the guy is genuinely the best. His DNA is CS:GO. The fact that he is born the same day as Counter-Strike isn't a coincidence. He is the Chosen One. This guy will bring the balance in the force, he is a fucking Master Jedi, you know?"

A new cycle begins

As we begin to close the nearly one-hour-long interview, Neo goes on to once again give credit to former players, as well as take a part of the responsibility for not reaching their main goal in the cycle — winning a Major.

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"I don't want to be harsh to our former or current players because again they deserve a lot of credit, a ton of credit, and it is more again an end of a cycle, a new strategy in the club. It is always hard, but of course, we made mistakes on the management side and they did on their side, but that is fine."

"But right now I need to open up a new chapter for Vitality, it is Vitality 2.0 in CS. Fingers crossed it will be the right thing for us, the right thing to do, but going international at some point is no surprise, we told you this before and I think it was what we aimed to achieve at some point. I think we have the right pieces to do it."

France Kévin 'misutaaa' Rabier
Kévin 'misutaaa' Rabier
Age:
19
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.97
Maps played:
372
KPR:
0.64
DPR:
0.67
France Nathan 'NBK-' Schmitt
Nathan 'NBK-' Schmitt
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
2025
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.67
Denmark Peter 'dupreeh' Rasmussen
Peter 'dupreeh' Rasmussen
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1867
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.65
Denmark Emil 'Magisk' Reif
Emil 'Magisk' Reif
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1325
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.63
France Richard 'shox' Papillon
Richard 'shox' Papillon
Age:
30
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1953
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.66
France Mathieu 'ZywOo' Herbaut
Mathieu 'ZywOo' Herbaut
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.28
Maps played:
934
KPR:
0.85
DPR:
0.62
France Ali 'hAdji' Haïnouss
Ali 'hAdji' Haïnouss
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
1094
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.66
United Kingdom Alex 'ALEX' McMeekin
Alex 'ALEX' McMeekin
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
1096
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.71
France Jayson 'Kyojin' Nguyen Van
Jayson 'Kyojin' Nguyen Van
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.88
Maps played:
153
KPR:
0.57
DPR:
0.66
France Dan 'apEX' Madesclaire
Dan 'apEX' Madesclaire
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
1917
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.70
Ukraine Oleksandr 's1mple' Kostyliev
Oleksandr 's1mple' Kostyliev
Age:
25
Rating 1.0:
1.25
Maps played:
1491
KPR:
0.86
DPR:
0.64
France Mathieu 'MaT' Leber
Mathieu 'MaT' Leber
Age:
37
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.72
Maps played:
9
KPR:
0.48
DPR:
0.76
France Rémy 'XTQZZZ' Quoniam
Rémy 'XTQZZZ' Quoniam
Age:
33
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.61
Maps played:
2
KPR:
0.48
DPR:
0.80
#1
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Zimbabwe can9ne
Ok
2022-01-09 12:40
28 replies
#8
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Greece J0hnN
Overconfident.
2022-01-09 12:42
19 replies
Nt budget Neo
2022-01-09 13:21
4 replies
Top 10 most delusional org CEOs
2022-01-09 16:26
3 replies
#261
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Brazil NotJuan
Sadly he ll have to wait a long long time to stsrt winning too
2022-01-09 17:25
1 reply
''When this team start winning, after 10 years, we will win for long time''/
2022-01-09 18:19
#301
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Germany Azalot
good players, but still stupid move. i like G2's move more...imo vitality should've stay full french. top 3 csgo team isn't that bad afterall, if they think they will be top 1 at the end of this year, i agree, they are delusional
2022-01-09 19:15
bro "if if if", if i would be 1.90 i'd have 2000 chicks as well this director delusional af xD 🤣🤣
2022-01-09 13:41
10 replies
I wish I was a little bit taller, I wish I was a baller
2022-01-09 14:19
9 replies
I wish I had a girl who looked good I would call her
2022-01-09 14:53
8 replies
I wish I had a rabbit in a hat, with a bat
2022-01-09 15:37
7 replies
and a 64 Impala.
2022-01-09 16:36
3 replies
#269
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Zimbabwe can9ne
Cruisin down the street in My 6 4
2022-01-09 18:01
1 reply
Jockin' the freaks, clockin' the dough
2022-01-10 10:53
The fuck? I just went back to 1995.
2022-01-09 18:07
#216
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Netherlands bekdragom
I wish I was like six foot nine
2022-01-09 16:40
2 replies
So I can get with Leoshi
2022-01-11 19:44
1 reply
Cause she don't know me but yo, she's really fine
2022-01-18 18:28
For sure
2022-01-09 18:14
1 reply
=DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD, this kid is clown
2022-01-19 14:33
Remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer
2022-01-10 01:41
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Korea ramza72
he said win for a long long time ? S1MPLE : HOLD MY VODKA
2022-01-09 12:57
3 replies
hltv.org/logout
2022-01-09 12:59
#262
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Brazil NotJuan
wtf
2022-01-09 17:25
#401
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Denmark Kon10R
SOMEBODY at SOME POINT will take down NaVi. We've seen empires come and go in the history books. Same goes for CS GO. We've seen "eras" come and go. Astralis was the greatest so far, NaVi may be onto something as great, if they win Katowice. But SOMEBODY at SOME POINT ... Yeah, well ... HALF of this "Astrality" roster already knows what it takes. If anyone is even close to Gla1ve it is Apex. If anyone can AWP even better than Dev1ce it is Zywoo. The fifth spot on the team may be up for grabs in half a year. We will see.
2022-01-15 01:47
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Asia aref81
"because ZywOo is the best player in the world" stoped reading here
2022-01-09 13:29
2 replies
+1
2022-01-09 14:56
#406
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Brazil ArthurFz1
+1
2022-01-19 13:07
fr what i thought after reading this headline lol
2022-01-09 23:17
ok but it wont start winning
2022-01-09 12:41
5 replies
This site: G2 is “Berlin-based” Then call Vitality “Delhi-based”
2022-01-09 14:59
2 replies
wtf did i just read
2022-01-09 22:50
+1
2022-01-09 15:43
+1
2022-01-09 17:02
Fabien "Neo" Devide Fake Neo...
2022-01-09 12:41
4 replies
and fake dev1ce, what a nerd thinks names make him gud
2022-01-09 13:07
2 replies
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Sweden zae
Kioshima Neo device fanboy 🤣
2022-01-09 13:20
1 reply
omg loool but why kio, he was the problem men and now he is problem omg wat idiot Problem Retired DeadAWPWithoutGla1ve nice combination to run baguette team, wont win. expected.
2022-01-09 16:05
There are so many fake Neo's. Some would say even the Polish one fake nicked the German neo..
2022-01-09 16:27
#4
mir | 
Russia moorlize
pog
2022-01-09 12:41
1 reply
#295
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England Triturn
They misspelled “if”
2022-01-09 18:44
#5
Ax1Le | 
Russia Me_car
he is known as not a very smart person,isnt he?
2022-01-09 12:41
10 replies
what makes you think that
2022-01-09 12:48
9 replies
just heard ppl say hes dumb
2022-01-09 12:53
8 replies
Probably kyobot fans malding.
2022-01-09 12:57
1 reply
nah it was long before he even joined
2022-01-09 13:17
never heard such rumors he did not appear a lot publicly before this He's created an esports empire in less than 10 years so I guess he's pretty smart
2022-01-09 13:28
5 replies
#214
RpK | 
France Snabe_
Main thing is not directly for him but for Vitality. The way they get their money with the indian billionaire is not very ethical + the last moves they made are just - Fu** the basics we have money
2022-01-09 16:36
4 replies
not every day you get to pick up a few legends of cs
2022-01-09 16:56
he's an Indian tech investor, so what? How is that unethical? Do you think Faze's venture capital firms are more ethical? Plus, it happened for a reason: insidesport.in/esports-french-organizati..
2022-01-09 17:53
2 replies
Mekeleke vitality investor :()?!
2022-01-10 12:00
#407
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Brazil ArthurFz1
Every indian tech investor use slave work or an almost slave work so this 100% unhethical. Is the same as have a diamond mine on Africa. If you have one, the chance of you abuse of your employees is 100% and the chance of having slaves is 99%.
2022-01-19 13:14
alright it's time to snap back to reality lads, this ain't gonna happen.
2022-01-09 12:41
28 replies
well, it's not impossible, but navi needs to crash and gambit need to underperform
2022-01-09 12:49
17 replies
Vitality was ”winning” before.. sure they missed a component for a few more titles but is this complete overhaul excatly what they needed?
2022-01-09 13:14
7 replies
dunno, impossible to tell
2022-01-09 14:48
lol they were winning because of zywoo. They just replaced a 0.9 and 1.0 player with two 1.1 players
2022-01-09 19:20
5 replies
#326
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Canada loldougie
And lost their system, and lost their common language, and lost the only players who will put up with Apex malding. This is going to be a fucking catastrophe of a team
2022-01-10 00:20
4 replies
Apex is great energy to have around you. Straight myth that hes a hard person to play with just because hes passionate.
2022-01-10 03:37
3 replies
#348
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Canada loldougie
I dunno man, Shox said in interviews that he took some getting used to
2022-01-10 06:01
I dunno man. Just watching him pisses me off and I’m a spectator 1000 miles away Lol. Dupreeh and Magisk are super patient but their faces just sink when they’re pissed off. This is gonna be epic to watch hah
2022-01-10 06:56
1 reply
Because you dont have a competitive mindset nor do you fully understand what he brings to the team.
2022-01-12 06:45
I don’t think Gambit is a big problem here looking at the rosters we have in the scene
2022-01-09 13:24
No, every casters and specialists in the game agree that, yes, NAVI is great, but they don't come close to the level of 2018 astralis or 2019 liquid, they are dominant right now for a big part because other teams are bad.
2022-01-09 13:27
7 replies
Sorry but NaVi 2021 > > > > TL 2019 in every way possible, stop capping. TL literally lost in QF of the major while NaVi beat pretty much everybody there without even dropping a map.
2022-01-09 18:52
4 replies
#327
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Canada loldougie
Sure but during the most scuffed time period where all top teams were in shambles
2022-01-10 00:21
3 replies
Lol and who did TL face ? Apart from Astralis that were AFK for 6 months. Gonna go about how every team was going through shuffles, but same can be said about the major where TL choked and took an L in quarters lmao
2022-01-11 03:43
2 replies
#385
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Canada loldougie
yeah no one cares about TL kiddo, not even sure why you brought that up tbh
2022-01-11 04:13
1 reply
Read #73 and see why TL was brought up, my mentally challenged Canadian friend :)
2022-01-11 07:19
Do you have an actual quote instead of "trust me bro, I heard it somewhere" Navi have had moments of absolutely brilliancy in as early as 2018. The main thing Navi has lacked has been ability to replicate these moments of brilliance even semi-reliably. It looked like it could happen early 2020, but covid made everything shit. They having great 2021 and especially the latter half is not too unexpected to have happen at some point. If it does continue is another story alltogether. As for other teams being shit. If you have any metrics, please share those, I'm interested. The fact that they won major without losing a single map is a achievement in itself. Its not like before now there has always been 10-15 great teams with no changes recently or changes to be expected. So that those teams always have had 100% focus in cs.
2022-01-10 02:06
#378
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Denmark 12inchNRG
Liquid 2019 didn't win a major, so you can't compare. If you win every event but lose the majors that year, it's a failed year.
2022-01-10 16:50
Wanna bet? It is going to happen, i believe in them!
2022-01-09 14:07
9 replies
just because you believe in them doesn't mean it's gonna happen, you are not god.
2022-01-09 14:09
7 replies
Am i not? Watch them. They are going to beat NaVi
2022-01-09 14:38
6 replies
well good luck to them i guess, i have yet be convinced by an international roster, most of the time they do well for a bit them massively fall off, havent seen a single one work long term but who knows, maybe vitality can make it work, wont be holding my breath tho
2022-01-09 14:51
4 replies
G2, Faze and Virtus pro. They are international, and it seems like it works fine tho
2022-01-09 17:08
3 replies
no one won a major or a big event tho
2022-01-09 22:17
2 replies
Faze won many big events...?
2022-01-10 03:38
FaZe has won som big events tho
2022-01-10 08:38
#158
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Denmark mrlolba
+1
2022-01-09 15:13
doubt
2022-01-09 15:12
#7
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Russia mshkoda
if
2022-01-09 12:42
#9
JK | 
Asia flipflop
dupreeh 5 majors incoming
2022-01-09 12:42
CMON WHY DO THIS TO YOURSELF
2022-01-09 12:42
Baugettes as delusional as ever. kekw
2022-01-09 12:43
12 replies
#23
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Saint Lucia Al4n
Baugettes > tea with milk
2022-01-09 12:48
6 replies
+1
2022-01-09 14:00
+1
2022-01-09 15:03
+1
2022-01-09 15:39
+1 but seriously though lulko and zywho fan kekw. Ez pimple destroying these clowns and their fanbases LUL
2022-01-09 16:19
1 reply
#304
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United Kingdom KiX4R
-1 Milk tea is peng.
2022-01-09 19:31
+1
2022-01-09 16:48
u have no scene xaxaxaxaaxxa nt thorin
2022-01-09 13:34
2 replies
#328
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Canada loldougie
Dunno man.. I think fnatic is going to be better than this Vitality lineup
2022-01-10 00:22
1 reply
Put down the crack pipe.
2022-01-11 11:26
+1
2022-01-09 16:58
This guy is delusional, just heard a full interview of him.... I'm a big Vitality fan, it was beautiful to watch this team struggle to top 3, even if this new team win, it will not be the same. And not because it's inter now, because it is yelling at me "we are a business team here for money".
2022-01-10 12:57
#12
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Russia Soawii
common hltv jinx
2022-01-09 12:43
So in another words it will never happen
2022-01-09 12:43
Neo he is the Polish player but the Vitality he is the esports director
2022-01-09 12:44
6 replies
+1 hahahahaha n1 mens))
2022-01-09 13:00
Laughed out loud ☺️👍
2022-01-09 15:08
1 reply
Thanks bro i try my best ☺️👍
2022-01-09 15:51
Same guy
2022-01-09 16:23
That is so good man
2022-01-10 10:59
#382
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France Uexo
ahah +1
2022-01-10 23:09
#15
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Latvia laglory
lets goooooooooo
2022-01-09 12:44
just like their fans, delusional.
2022-01-09 12:44
Dupreeh 28yo 0.98 rating)
2022-01-09 12:45
1 reply
dude, you know that he hasn't played for the past 3 months, right?
2022-01-09 18:51
how he know LUL not only your team change
2022-01-09 12:47
I came for the salty comments, and I'm not disappointed
2022-01-09 12:47
11 replies
Lmao
2022-01-09 16:25
Not suprised that majority of them are Navi fans, most toxic fanbase in CSGO
2022-01-09 16:48
9 replies
keep crying :D
2022-01-09 18:30
6 replies
Thanks for proving my point
2022-01-10 00:40
5 replies
Don't care what a random scrub says on internet :)
2022-01-10 05:15
4 replies
You care enough to comment twice 😂
2022-01-10 06:51
3 replies
I commented to let u know that I didn't care KEK, not because I really cared
2022-01-10 07:54
2 replies
Third. Damn you really cant let this go huh
2022-01-10 15:11
1 reply
no u
2022-01-10 17:17
0 majors for international roster. There is some copium for you
2022-01-09 18:52
#329
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Canada loldougie
ruskis man
2022-01-10 00:24
true
2022-01-09 12:48
well, he seems confident.
2022-01-09 12:48
Ok
2022-01-09 12:50
#26
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Russia ToughGuy
Good CEO but someone has to tell him that he signed 2 washed up danes
2022-01-09 12:51
8 replies
#62
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France Loutcho_Q
Magisk and dupreeh, you’re not realizing
2022-01-09 13:20
#70
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Slovakia Daev0n
Nah it's only one. Magisk is good
2022-01-09 13:26
6 replies
Dupreeh god, go cry that forsen isn't in top 20 😤😤😤
2022-01-09 15:09
5 replies
#169
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Slovakia Daev0n
Where is Dupreeh in the Top 20?
2022-01-09 15:30
3 replies
Top 21 🤣
2022-01-09 16:24
Where frozen? ☺️☺️
2022-01-10 00:02
1 reply
#324
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Slovakia Daev0n
frozen #21 or #22. dupreeh #50
2022-01-10 00:05
forsen hltv #1 2022 mark my words
2022-01-09 22:51
long long = 1 week
2022-01-09 12:51
no
2022-01-09 12:51
I have a feeling this won't age well
2022-01-09 12:52
#31
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Greece h0nest_fan
*IF
2022-01-09 12:54
2 replies
#72
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Czech Republic Ventraks
if and when is same..
2022-01-09 13:27
1 reply
Not at all! "WHEN" means that it will eventually happen at some point but "IF" means that it may happen or may not!
2022-01-09 13:37
everything can happen
2022-01-09 12:55
#33
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Europe nikyyy
Lets go!!! Fuck NAVI up
2022-01-09 12:56
1 reply
ez for na'vi
2022-01-09 12:58
#34
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Egypt BomberMan_
did no one learn from henryg?
2022-01-09 12:56
3 replies
HenryG has Xepa Mezzi and Es3tag. Neo has Zywoo Magisk and Dupreeh. Totally different calibre
2022-01-09 16:50
2 replies
1 bad results and he will get endlessly shit on no matter what. I think what henryg was going was good marketing the team and trying to buidl hype up, but clearly this scene is made up of 12yos who instantly shit on you if you have 1 bad result. ofc those guys will handle it much better than a squad of mostly rookies, but imo unneeded pressure for a project that will probably stumble at least once.
2022-01-09 16:54
1 reply
Ofc he will get shit on. Thats the risk he was willing to take as the CEO and i dont think he minds that. I do agree with you that theres cons to it which are the added pressure on a newly formed team. Hopefully Zonic and co can use that pressure as more of a motivation to work hard
2022-01-09 17:07
Didn't learn anything, he said the same things in other interview already.
2022-01-09 12:57
LUL
2022-01-09 12:58
#41
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India aR__
even as a zywoo biased fan, there's no stopping s1mple now he's just on another level. Even if he goes back to being s0mple, surely both B1T and electronic don't forget how to play cs like s1mple, what I mean is all of these 3 are just on another level. All 3 won't forget how to play CS at the same time.
2022-01-09 12:59
6 replies
S1mple is a top player but he isnt some immortal. He is def stoppable, Zywoo proved that on 2019 and 2020 when he beat him for the #1 spot.
2022-01-09 16:51
4 replies
#244
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India aR__
Could be true to a point, it is common for NaVi and s1mple to underperform after a long break. So there is a chance they shit the bed in Katowice
2022-01-09 17:04
now he just needs to prove it one more time where NaVi as a team are at their highest peak and their 3 best players are peaking as individuals as well, If he can stop that on his own in this year, respect then.
2022-01-10 15:57
Don't forget for one of those years s1mple was only rifling not awping like zywoo and he still stayed close. S1mple back on the awp >> zywoo on the awp
2022-01-11 04:39
1 reply
No. The only reason s1mple is gonna win this year's #1 is because of how good Navi is as a team overall. You give Zywoo teammates with the same level and he would be just as good if not better.
2022-01-11 10:42
ZywOo is 21, it's hard to believe he peaked already, especially since he will get input from proven winners like the Danish trio now.
2022-01-11 11:31
#43
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Romania assdada
ok
2022-01-09 13:00
extremely delusional
2022-01-09 13:00
This man hasn't won shit in esports and his "superteam" projects have always failed before after spending tons of money lmfaoo Vitality was almost being relegated in LEC (franchise league) for their poor results
2022-01-09 13:02
5 replies
#108
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France Guilsz_
"hasn't won a shit in esports" 2018 FIFA World Champion "Rocky" 2019 RLCS champions went to 2019 LOL Worlds
2022-01-09 14:03
4 replies
nice.. he copped trophies in esports that barely existed at that time
2022-01-09 15:01
3 replies
bad bait
2022-01-09 16:33
2 replies
how?
2022-01-09 18:01
1 reply
Stay clueless
2022-01-10 03:40
#47
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France Uexo
#VforVictory #WatchUsFollowUs
2022-01-09 13:03
Imo this was so fking delusional lmao
2022-01-09 13:05
What an amazing interview! Read through all of it, and wow, my respect for Neo just skyrocketed. Regardless of whether his vision succeeds, what a genuinely charismatic leader! With the GOAT rifling duo of Magisk and Dupreeh, in addition to the GOAT coach in Zonic, I tend to believe in their vision as well. Whether it materializes or not, is yet to be seen. People often defy all expectations. He acknowledged that he is taking a huge risk, but oh well, high risk high returns, I guess xD All the best Vitality!
2022-01-09 13:10
3 replies
If only he could stop using so many "ifs" but understandable I suppose.
2022-01-09 14:00
2 replies
Thats what visionaries do, they speculate on the future with a positive and grinding mindset. Kinda similar to CarlosR from G2
2022-01-09 16:53
1 reply
Mhm understandable. Na'vi's CEO is similar in this so I guess it does result in success.
2022-01-09 17:16
Kappa
2022-01-09 13:06
#54
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United States TARIK_GOAT
“When”
2022-01-09 13:13
gl for 2022
2022-01-09 13:14
kyojin lol . neo scare with his decision . he'will
2022-01-09 13:15
pepelaugh
2022-01-09 13:16
We'll see later
2022-01-09 13:19
#63
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Greece RedWinter
I really wonder what player it was that he had a "bad interview" with. Probably some paycheck stealer
2022-01-09 13:20
10 replies
#74
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Slovakia Daev0n
It was me
2022-01-09 13:28
Could be Ropz. French streamer KRL had a livestream where they talked about the french scene and international roster moves and he mentioned some players are there to win and some are there to make money and he specifically mentionned ropz. I don’t think that’s a coincidence (this was one or two weeks ago) But guess we’ll never know :D
2022-01-09 13:29
6 replies
Funny, I didnt expect that from ropz
2022-01-09 15:55
1 reply
he signed w faze over g2 LMAO
2022-01-11 00:22
1 reply
ropz paycheck stealer confirmed
2022-01-09 16:36
On our video interview he openly talks about ropz.
2022-01-09 20:04
1 reply
well there you go ! thank you for the confirmation
2022-01-09 22:00
#110
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France Guilsz_
ropz
2022-01-09 14:04
probably ropz, he was rumored to replace misutaa but never happened
2022-01-09 15:05
#66
mhL | 
Germany r4v1x
NEO - it's not even him
2022-01-09 13:21
omg vitality NEO
2022-01-09 13:23
#71
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Austria Ostmark
maybe when s1mple retires then they can start winning
2022-01-09 13:26
8 replies
#77
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Slovakia Daev0n
Only if all of the teams leave CS. Maybe then Vitality will have an era.
2022-01-09 13:29
#88
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxyownz
s1mple 5 years in cs and less than 1 with consistent wins???
2022-01-09 13:38
4 replies
#89
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Austria Ostmark
he was #1 because he was inconsistent ?
2022-01-09 13:39
3 replies
#93
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxyownz
being #1 clearly has no relevancy to winning and preventing other teams from winning
2022-01-09 13:44
2 replies
#95
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Austria Ostmark
that's when you have a bad team, not 2021 navi
2022-01-09 13:47
1 reply
#106
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxyownz
yes, its just your post makes no sense my friend
2022-01-09 14:00
tbh s1mple never won much compared to lot of cs players and teams and once at the top they will decline like any team.. so in 2 years vitality could win a major for sure and more i think he is not delusional , he even think they will be bad for 6 months
2022-01-09 14:00
1 reply
#103
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Austria Ostmark
cause it took 5 years of him being a top player to have a good team
2022-01-09 14:00
I respectfully disagree
2022-01-09 13:30
zikou
2022-01-09 13:31
1 reply
ctza, disbanding in less than 1 year
2022-01-10 11:55
Y Y Y, Too much words about most weird and quiestionable squad. I wanna see their "happy" faces after couple 12-16 places.
2022-01-09 13:34
1 reply
And when i see zywoo english at interviews... how the comunication will go ?
2022-01-09 17:55
Copium
2022-01-09 13:35
#87
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Latvia laiziolas
i dont like this, and i think nothing will be good for this team.
2022-01-09 13:38
#90
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Hungary 2yw17
This interview is a mental illness. :D
2022-01-09 13:41
#92
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Ukraine d3adLY
AHAHAH if this team wins then its just luck
2022-01-09 13:42
#94
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Estonia Kizma
change quote to "If this team starts winning" before you embarrass him forever
2022-01-09 13:44
Keep dreaming
2022-01-09 13:52
Let's be honest. I am not a Vitality hater but, Zywoo is a legendary player and he would need a good rifler by his side Apex is not the star rifler while on the other hand misutaa hasn't been able to deliver to the promise upon which he was included into the team Magisk and Dupreeh are way past their glory years The winning streak of this team will totally depend on the rifling abilities of this "Danish duo" In my opinion dupreeh would need to step up to the likes of bit and electronic(not saying they are better than him but for the year of 2022, dupreeh needs to find his classic form back)
2022-01-09 13:55
9 replies
Dupreeh maybe, but Magisk was still a beast even when Astralis was struggling imo.
2022-01-09 14:02
5 replies
Yup not denying that But Zywoo seriously needs someone by his side I dont remember the stats but in 2021, Zywoo was in 1.3(s) in the rating if I am not wrong while the rest of the team was in the range of 0.9-1.1 He never found someone to win those residual fights which he couldn't win All I am saying is that Dupreeh could be that player
2022-01-09 14:15
4 replies
1.29 and yeah no one else was even 1.15 or above iirc. Maybe, but I reckon Magisk or Misutaaa could be favoured to be the star rifler over dupreeh. Just thinking.
2022-01-09 14:17
3 replies
Def agree with you. Dupreeh is a pure entry and usually they arent a pure 2nd star, maybe 3rd star
2022-01-09 16:59
2 replies
+1 I reckon it's gonna be Magisk and Misutaaa is gonna be like b1t in a explosive talent who can perform well at times. Dupreeh pure entry and apEX supports. Sounds like a recipe for success to me.
2022-01-09 17:18
1 reply
Exactly what i was thinking
2022-01-09 17:19
I think Magisk will be the player that will become sort of the "electronic" of Zywoo. He is one of the best riflers and def up there with electronic in terms of impact when he is on form. Not to mention one of the best sprays in the game. Misuta on the otherhand would compete with b1t most likely.
2022-01-09 17:00
2 replies
Didn't see ur comment before #255 sorry xD
2022-01-09 17:18
1 reply
All good bro <3
2022-01-09 17:19
#98
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CIS elefiveS
he is right. Zywoo needs to leave his comfort zone and grow up personally and as a player
2022-01-09 13:56
Right
2022-01-09 13:57
I'd say if we start winning
2022-01-09 13:58
neo 1.6 goat
2022-01-09 13:59
I don't think so
2022-01-09 14:04
Stop dreaming guys, eat your pizza.
2022-01-09 14:05
#113
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Hungary 2yw17
This slip in mental delirium is worthy of study for the Lacanian School of Psychoanalysis. The line "The chosen one", "gifted", "born on the same day" is a mental illness driven by religious dementia. :D
2022-01-09 14:06
1 reply
Yawn
2022-01-10 03:42
overconfident + delusional
2022-01-09 14:10
#117
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North America FAZE_ROPZ
thats what they all say. but im 100% positive, navi wont be ruling csgo in 2022.
2022-01-09 14:13
#119
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Finland AliSabid
We will see about that
2022-01-09 14:16
#121
ropz | 
India psn46
French scene kekw.
2022-01-09 14:19
DEV1CE doesn't perform well in NIP MAGISK DUPREEH Struggle in VIT GLAIVE XYP underperform in Astralis 2023 - LEGENDARY 5 REUNION FOR ONE LAST TIME
2022-01-09 14:19
1 reply
10000% sure this will happen. Last Dance......
2022-01-09 15:01
#124
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Spain moorakami
s1mple > ZywOo. International team will never win a major. Sorry bro.
2022-01-09 14:20
Would make sense if Dupreeh and Magisk could find their 2018 form with new motivation
2022-01-09 14:23
2 replies
No they won’t because they’re 28 year old grandpas.
2022-01-09 15:05
1 reply
Can't argue with your flair
2022-01-09 15:07
Sorry bud, although this lineup can winsome tournaments, it will never be able to dominate the scene.
2022-01-09 14:25
ok
2022-01-09 14:26
delusional af
2022-01-09 14:33
#132
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Denmark Zaerdna
IF* they start winning, wait and see
2022-01-09 14:37
Kekw
2022-01-09 14:48
Fake Neo KEKWait
2022-01-09 14:56
Yeah depending on Zywoo’s form, everyone else on this team is washed up and nowhere near star level material. Remember how bad Astralis was -device? I admit it’s a better team on paper than the prior lineup with Kyojin but there’s other factors like language and chemistry which could bring it down.
2022-01-09 14:57
your fake neo is high on copium
2022-01-09 14:58
misutaaa is ok, but Kyojin... nah
2022-01-09 15:01
#152
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South America Melegatti
First they need to start winning.. and thats the problem
2022-01-09 15:09
First few tournaments will be crucial. If they fail, it could be the biggest flop in csgo. Even tho dupreeh&magisk are still decent players, this could go horribly wrong.
2022-01-09 15:10
They won't start tho
2022-01-09 15:11
G2 meanwile: "No, i don't think you will"
2022-01-09 15:12
good interview
2022-01-09 15:13
Moments before a disaster
2022-01-09 15:16
Won't ever happen. Picked up two washed boomers and thinks they can have an era. Delusional.
2022-01-09 15:22
#166
NEO | 
Poland Antro
Sadly, they’ll never start winning
2022-01-09 15:24
Keep us informed
2022-01-09 15:24
So many idiots in the comments. The HLTV staple.
2022-01-09 15:27
Fake Neo
2022-01-09 15:30
#171
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Russia M1shV4T
Navi and Gambit: ok
2022-01-09 15:30
So we can start calling ZywOo The Messiah now?
2022-01-09 15:35
#175
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Germany who|cars
dis.. what? disband
2022-01-09 15:37
Not "when"... If.
2022-01-09 15:38
Great interview, thank you for this
2022-01-09 15:38
#179
DD | 
Philippines libon23
Nice interview, now my man s1mple will punish your whole team together with g2. GL further I am expecting a very exciting 2022 cs.
2022-01-09 15:41
Pretty good mentality. If you wanna be a winner never settle for #2 or #3.
2022-01-09 15:41
More like a matter of if not when
2022-01-09 15:42
So you like to check out reddit Neo... Nothing news compared to the french interview prepared question, prepared answers thanks for your time tho
2022-01-09 15:43
I guess this guy is probably the only one in the world who thinks simple is just a super hard working man. What a joke.
2022-01-09 15:52
Talking shit like this never works. Let your work speak for itself. I heard enough bs from EG, Complexity and Co. already..
2022-01-09 15:54
1 reply
Exactly.
2022-01-09 15:55
Not a chance.
2022-01-09 15:54
tbh I already see this team as a massive downgrade from previous VITALITY.
2022-01-09 15:54
2 replies
average zeeezeerax comment cant be any worse than Kyobot and washed shox.
2022-01-09 16:08
why dont u already change ur flag to Ukraine?
2022-01-10 06:55
A delusional CEO thinking you can just swap language, have everyone on the same page, build chemistry, establish a new relationship between your IGL & your new coach, have fast communication in a foreign language AND winning titles (especially MAJORS) in the same year. And the part saying that he wanted to bring ZywOo out of his comfort zone... Excuse me? You kicked two of the three guys he loved to play with (he had strong bonds with them) and expect him to perform with all these changes? If anything it might have affected him negatively. Remember he is still super young, reserved and emotional (in a good way). And he's already a freaking beast. I don't know what this guy is smoking but I don't want the same.
2022-01-09 15:58
5 replies
If zywho rely on players he likes to play with he is in his comfort zone. At least in this point the guy made the correct conclusion
2022-01-09 16:02
4 replies
I'm not saying he will not be out of his comfort zone, I'm saying that the chemistry they had is ultra rare to have and the guy is a monster already. I don't know why you would want to bring him out of his comfort zone, maybe if his potential wasn't exploited at its highest it would make sense. But now they have to start from scratch.
2022-01-09 16:26
3 replies
Shox maybe but kyojin nah. He never needed kyojin to perform well nor did kyojin add much to the team
2022-01-10 03:44
2 replies
I said two out of the three, I was talking about shox & XTQZZZ
2022-01-10 12:07
1 reply
I agree that xtqzzz helped him elevate his game but Shoxs impact is questionable. Zywoo was a monster even way back when they had NBK. The biggest issue will be finding a system that works for everyone but Apex was able to do it with kyojin nivera and misutaa, and now he gets to do it with extremely experienced players it shouldnt be much different once they get past the communication growing pains. They all speak decent english some more than others but hes proven hes a top tier IGL i trust him.
2022-01-13 02:45
I dunno what this guy thinks but he has a naive mindset. There are more hungry teams out there. And s1mple don't want to stop. He has the most competitive mindset in the scene. As long as zywho don't get what S1mple has, they will not reach an era... Not even for a month.
2022-01-09 15:59
#196
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Vietnam andy_
you mean never?
2022-01-09 16:06
#198
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France PP_Bizon
Seeing a lot of comments complaining about his expectations, I find it refreshing to see people making bold claims like this. I don't want to see another team setting some mediocre goals like usual (saying oh yeah we could become top5, that'd be pretty good)
2022-01-09 16:09
16 replies
what is wrong with being realistic? orgs doesnt have these claims that often anymore because when it ends in disaster your brand has suffered double damage
2022-01-09 16:33
8 replies
Because only aiming to become a top 5 team with Zywoo shows weakness in their mentality. Whats wrong with wanting to be the best and win multiple tournaments? If you are a leader, then you have to show that drive. Otherwise the people below you wont get inspired to work as hard
2022-01-09 17:03
6 replies
That is definitely true but it can also backfire very hard. I cant imagine the pain If they wont win any out of first lets say 5-6 events and still have to make interviews where they are saying shit like we believe, we come back stronger etc.
2022-01-09 17:09
5 replies
I think Neo already lays that scenario in the interview. He was willing to being shitted on and he knows this is a huge gamble. He also stated that for the next 6 months he would have lower expectations, but after that he would expect the team to win tournaments.
2022-01-09 17:13
4 replies
But He isn't one who gets the hate when the team fails. The team gets it and that is nothing he can change. It is always the team in the frontline that gets the blame never a CEO.
2022-01-09 18:21
3 replies
#285
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France PP_Bizon
henryg disagrees, dude was a GM who made bold claims and was absolutely shat on relentlessly for months. Not the same thing but he isn't a part of the team itself, but still got shat on
2022-01-09 18:27
1 reply
Es3tag aka Price3tag disagree with you and HenryG.
2022-01-09 18:29
Well im pretty sure Neo will get most of the blame in the org since he was the one making decisions. Also after this kind of interview people will shit on him when the roster fails. As for the players, they arent the ones making bold claims so probably not as much hate as Neo
2022-01-10 00:42
#284
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France PP_Bizon
Exactly, orgs don't do this anymore because of PR, which shows that an org willing to say this has balls and are willing to put their reputation on the line for it. I like that kind of thing.
2022-01-09 18:25
Many teams and players make such bold claims. I can remind you styko "we become a top 10 team" 6 month later disban. Nip "we have cr7 signed" and he plays his worst year since 6 years. I guess you just don't get this bold claims. So you think that guy here does it alone.
2022-01-09 16:43
6 replies
None of those teams have Zywoo thats the big difference. Also NIP and styko's team are far weaker on paper then Vitality's current lineup.
2022-01-09 17:05
2 replies
And what has Zywho to do with bold claims?? Only teams with Zywho can make bold claims?? wtf is this shit argument.
2022-01-09 18:19
1 reply
Zywoo is arguably the best player in the world, 2 times top 1. So when you have Zywoo in your team, naturally you gain confidence no? And if you are the CEO that has Zywoo, you would strive to become the number 1 team. So making bold claims about trying to win the major is not that far fetched. Then you bring up NIP and C9 which are rosters that made bold claims in the past and has failed. But the context of that is the difference between the quality of Vitality and those teams you just mentioned. Vitality has less chances of flopping due to the fact that they have Zywoo, Magisk, Dupreeh, Zonic. These are top players and therefore logically has less chance of failing as a roster then the previous two. Ofc we dont know the future so we have to wait and see if they deliver or not. Regardless my main point is that its not far fetched nor idiotic to claim that you want to be the best team in the world and win the major when you have Zywoo on your team and you bring in multiple major winners.
2022-01-10 00:46
#283
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France PP_Bizon
I'm aware that some other teams and players do it, but, there are a lot of other top teams that make statements that don't feel very bold, and this one shows desire to win and be at the top. I like it when an org/player/team whatever makes a bold claim, because it shows a desire, and also what standard we should set them to.
2022-01-09 18:23
2 replies
Teams who do bold claims fail. Did you see S1mple made bold claims?? NO It is a small but huge difference between bold claims and a goal. I can say I become a Millionaire... Or i can say "i want to become a millionair" First one is just an arrogance bold claim Second one is a goal that can happen but it fails most likely. Goals show that you are ready to work for your ambitions. Bold claims show only that you are delusional and that you want sth but you aren't ready to work for it so you need luck.
2022-01-09 18:27
1 reply
This is where your apparent lack of English comprehension comes in because the goal IS stated. Thats why he says WHEN the team starts winning. "WHEN" hence he knows it will take time to get everyone comfortable in the right spots. But once that happens and theyre firing on all cylinders he believes thes team can be dominant.
2022-01-10 03:47
Not when If
2022-01-09 16:13
nice jinx
2022-01-09 16:18
aka never
2022-01-09 16:25
am I the only one who finds this whole interview quite delusional ? Does he honestly believe they will be better than NaVi?
2022-01-09 16:30
8 replies
The guy thinks also that S1mple is just a hard worker. So the guy shows he is dumb
2022-01-09 16:45
you dont think they have the potential?
2022-01-09 16:56
6 replies
They have. To be consistent Top 10 maybe Top 5 on better weeks.
2022-01-09 16:57
5 replies
thats delusional the other way around, if you ask me this team could get top 1, g2 also! dont get stuck up in the high of navi right now
2022-01-09 16:59
2 replies
they will win max 1 event mark my words
2022-01-09 17:00
1 reply
and the rest?
2022-01-09 17:00
How so, Vitality with trash players like Kyobot and washed shox got to top 2 but this team cant be at least top2 ?
2022-01-09 18:33
Theyre top 3 arguably top 2 right now with one of the worst players in the top 10. To say they will barely reach top 5 with clear upgrades is just moronic.
2022-01-10 03:48
#212
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Serbia findagdar
I hope they make it. They have a good team, great experience behind them. It will be fun to see Magisk on the rifle and Zywoo awping with him
2022-01-09 16:35
I don't remember a single case in sport when teams formed out of legendary "winner" players past their prime would become a dominant force. But u never know since they've still got zywoo plus the danes even on their worst are better than what vitality previously had, but rn it abit feels like astana dragons 2.0
2022-01-09 16:53
well yes
2022-01-09 16:54
#227
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Croatia Netkov
Delusional.
2022-01-09 16:54
lets see, time will tell
2022-01-09 16:55
Hyped for the team!
2022-01-09 16:56
Delusional
2022-01-09 16:58
tldr Can tell from title that he is delusional
2022-01-09 16:59
#239
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Other simon_
so delusional
2022-01-09 17:00
#246
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France iatis
Well XTQZZZ do not agree with part of this interview. I believe it has do to with his believing of international project, or the timing of the decision to go international, or the decision of player... He tweets about that, but not actual content yet.
2022-01-09 17:08
If they can switch on dupreeh and magisk, and get a good social climate going, its not impossible. We know what these players can do when the team works.
2022-01-09 17:10
Delusional
2022-01-09 17:13
#253
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Brazil Elakk
Delusional
2022-01-09 17:13
#259
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Argentina cheapdeed
when this team starts losing we will lose for a long long time*
2022-01-09 17:23
your roster will flop u deluded baguette
2022-01-09 17:24
Nt
2022-01-09 17:36
#264
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Brazil Exfm
nice jinx XD
2022-01-09 17:47
yeah, when
2022-01-09 17:54
Well written article, really enjoyed going through it. Fans don't often understand a team project and how it is layered, we tend to only see the players on the server. Respect to every team who is daring to risk in order to be the best on CS
2022-01-09 18:02
fake neo and fake device :DdDD
2022-01-09 18:03
#272
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Indonesia skabr
doubt
2022-01-09 18:04
#274
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Ukraine rofle
ko ko ko
2022-01-09 18:13
#275
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Canada Lachance
somehow I think they won't be as good as last year
2022-01-09 18:14
Win my di** , apix madagascar will scare the shit out of danes when he will start to smash desks again
2022-01-09 18:15
2 replies
device and gla1ve already prepared them for that
2022-01-09 23:50
1 reply
dev1ce is* more of a monitor smasher than table
2022-01-10 16:15
You never will be better then NAV1 .l.
2022-01-09 18:19
you cant make team like astralis by taking astralis players. remember that astralis was astralis because of Gla1ve. IGL_Matters
2022-01-09 18:33
1 reply
Apex is clearly an elite IGL. If you dont see the systems in place in Vitalitys play and how well they played off of each other and set up their stars than you simply dont understand counterstrike. They have one of the highest trade %, they have the best pistol round winrate and very good flash statistics and util damage. These arent things that just magically happen, its a product of a good system and cohesion as well as understanding how the opponents play.
2022-01-10 03:51
Neo looks like a mix between Joe Thomas, the British comedian, and Andrew Scott, the guy who plays Moriarty
2022-01-09 18:36
He meant, "if this team wins..."
2022-01-09 18:38
1 reply
+1 i don't think he mean't to say that they will win everything but more like. If they atleast will be able to win tournaments and keep up with NAVI then they will do everything or even more to keep it up or boost their performance. They kinda the context as deluded when in reality, Neo says about possibilities not what will happen.
2022-01-09 18:42
This is a big dream
2022-01-09 18:41
major's winners for sure
2022-01-09 18:58
#300
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Hungary szia
and now he will eat those words
2022-01-09 19:08
Biggest question mark is dupreeh performance and the danes chemistry with apex leadership Zywoo will perform as always, misutaa will be average, magisk looked good on astralis 2021. If dupreeh plays like in 2020 again they can be top 1
2022-01-09 19:19
#307
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United States GiantDays
unlikely
2022-01-09 20:29
COPIUM
2022-01-09 20:31
#309
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Germany K3v1
Polish Neo > Baguette Neo
2022-01-09 20:36
"I had a lot of interviews, actually, I also had a really bad interview with a player, I just had a really bad feeling about it. You know, some players just talk about the money, some just talk about themselves, and when I had Magisk and dupreeh it was super refreshing because they are both proven winners, they don't need to prove themselves. If they wanted to go to a superteam in North America or somewhere else they could've probably gotten 2-3 times more money than what we offered. These guys were just hungry to compete and to win, and to actually create a legacy somewhere outside of Astralis, to..." Who do you guys think he is talking about? I have a feeling it is Xyp9x or Valde
2022-01-09 20:41
2 replies
bruh obviously it wasnt xyp or valde but some noname french guys like some of the ldlc players
2022-01-09 23:49
i think ropz
2022-01-10 15:15
Delusional :/
2022-01-09 20:43
Win an event first
2022-01-09 21:48
disband before 2023
2022-01-09 23:01
The team with two 28 year olds will win for a long time lmaoo delusional
2022-01-09 23:11
1 reply
+1 apEX 29 in 1 month dupreeh 29 in March
2022-01-10 06:52
I wish the team the best, but the scene is really competitive these days, and that is a major factor. I hope they don't end up in a SK/MIBR slippery slope while seeking the top.
2022-01-09 23:47
Delusional
2022-01-10 00:10
Statements like this always go well in hindsight.
2022-01-10 00:39
when i stop being lazy fuck i will be unstoppable
2022-01-10 02:09
Just start winning lol.
2022-01-10 02:15
#347
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China jsackwj
ez4navi2022
2022-01-10 05:40
Navi fans incoming
2022-01-10 06:54
#354
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Australia rationale
I'd love to have even 10% of his confidence.
2022-01-10 06:56
because your daddy zywoo
2022-01-10 07:17
i see many baguettes malding 😂
2022-01-10 07:44
1 reply
i see a sabaka who gonna cry in 2022
2022-01-10 10:13
So the big question ... WHEN THIS TEAM STARTS WINNING ?
2022-01-10 10:06
cap
2022-01-10 11:02
#364
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Romania garcea89
where is the guy that comments : 'expected' on every post ?
2022-01-10 11:48
Regarding the post itself, I did enjoy this format a whole lot more than when the entire post is basically just a dump of the transcript. Good job!
2022-01-10 11:56
#370
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Finland Emvi
Got 0 expectations for this team to be better than the last. Weird ass line-up
2022-01-10 13:49
1 reply
Even if they didnt communicate a single thing the entire match getting rid of kyojin for ex major winners is a massive upgrade
2022-01-13 02:47
#371
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World Evil32167
no shox no win guys, trust me. This team wouldn't start winning tier1 cups. They lose win chemistry of 2021 year
2022-01-10 15:11
we have to laugh apex is a good IGL but overrated dupreeh and magisk 2 washed up players good luck zywoo lul
2022-01-10 15:29
1 reply
Washed up lmao youre delusional
2022-01-13 02:46
he really need to be realistic and stop dreaming. this interview seemed like a fantasy lmao
2022-01-10 15:57
first win vs navi xd
2022-01-10 18:50
We will win for a long time Me : Are you sure about that I think he is kinda overconfident
2022-01-10 21:10
COPIUM
2022-01-11 15:30
1 reply
they have not played?
2022-01-18 18:31
#396
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Europe skelteR
ok
2022-01-12 08:54
thats a shitload of copium, also a huge chance they will never start winning
2022-01-14 14:25
1 reply
Theyre already an elite team tho...?
2022-01-16 23:18
#405
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Slovakia Cewarm
yep, they can will EVERY SINGLE t3 EVENT :D
2022-01-18 19:31
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