Liquid part ways with Grim

The North American rifler will not continue with Liquid going into 2022.

Liquid have announced the departure of Michael "⁠Grim⁠" Wince from the squad. The North American organization had confirmed in December that the 21-year old was not a part of their plans going into the next year, benching him alongside Gabriel "⁠FalleN⁠" Toledo and Jake "⁠Stewie2K⁠" Yip.

Grim had joined the North American powerhouse in the summer of 2020, following the team's decision not to continue with IGL Nick "⁠nitr0⁠" Cannella. During his time in the team, Grim showed a few moments of brilliance but failed to live up to the excellence shown in Triumph.

Grim leaves Liquid after 17 months

During his 17-month stint in Liquid, the young rifler contributed to the team's victory at cs_summit 8 and several top-four finishes, most importantly at BLAST Premier Global Final 2020, IEM Global Challenge 2020, and BLAST Premier World Final 2021. Despite these positive results, however, Liquid were far off the standards set in 2019.

"Thank you to Grim. Your drive to succeed and willingness to fit into our system was invaluable and we know you have a bright future ahead," commented Liquid in regards to Grim's departure, a nod to the player's efforts to adapt as an inexperienced newcomer to a team of veterans.

Liquid are now expected to bring on nitr0 to fill in the last spot on the roster, with the veteran IGL reportedly planning a return to his former team following a year-and-a-half stint playing VALORANT.

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Furthermore, Grim's departure from Liquid strengthens the rumors suggesting a reunion with former Triumph teammate Paytyn "⁠junior⁠" Johnson at Complexity, as the American AWPer parted ways with FURIA on Wednesday.

Liquid currently have the following roster:

United States Jonathan "⁠EliGE⁠" Jablonowski
Canada Keith "⁠NAF⁠" Markovic
United States Josh "⁠oSee⁠" Ohm
France Richard "⁠shox⁠" Papillon

United States Eric "⁠adreN⁠" Hoag (coach)

United States Jake "⁠Stewie2K⁠" Yip (benched)
Brazil Gabriel "⁠FalleN⁠" Toledo (benched)

United States Josh 'oSee' Ohm
Josh 'oSee' Ohm
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.11
Maps played:
1021
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.63
United States Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1536
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.68
United States Nick 'nitr0' Cannella
Nick 'nitr0' Cannella
Age:
26
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
1323
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.66
Brazil Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Age:
30
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
1499
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.60
Canada Keith 'NAF' Markovic
Keith 'NAF' Markovic
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1497
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.63
United States Eric 'adreN' Hoag
Eric 'adreN' Hoag
Age:
31
Team:
France Richard 'shox' Papillon
Richard 'shox' Papillon
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1953
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.66
United States Michael 'Grim' Wince
Michael 'Grim' Wince
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
817
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.68
United States Jake 'Stewie2K' Yip
Jake 'Stewie2K' Yip
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
1481
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.68
United States Paytyn 'junior' Johnson
Paytyn 'junior' Johnson
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
410
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.60
#1
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North America drac0z
BIG MIKE, YOU WILL BE MISSED THANK YOU <3
2022-01-12 21:11
9 replies
Sad but needed. Team Liquid top1 2022 with shoxiejesuss
2022-01-12 22:01
not just gotta remove adren and you're gud again
2022-01-12 22:12
he won't , cool guy
2022-01-13 02:18
5 replies
#110
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North America drac0z
RATIO
2022-01-13 02:44
4 replies
+1
2022-01-13 03:39
3 replies
+L
2022-01-13 04:10
2 replies
0/8
2022-01-13 04:25
1 reply
+ fell off
2022-01-13 04:26
#162
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India rivervp
All the best grimothy!
2022-01-13 14:49
Upgrading to Extra Salt
2022-01-12 21:12
6 replies
+1
2022-01-12 21:17
3 replies
Forgot to change flair or can't dance yet ?
2022-01-13 04:11
2 replies
No , i i actually still supporting liquid and fallen is in cpntract so flair will not change
2022-01-13 15:49
1 reply
expected from salsa fan
2022-01-13 22:23
Longer announced Why ?
2022-01-12 21:57
unironically true
2022-01-13 09:51
finally, 17 months too late.
2022-01-12 21:12
3 replies
+1 this dude had a terrible work ethic, undeserved to be in liquid, total waste of time and money, garbo
2022-01-13 07:22
2 replies
who asked ?
2022-01-13 08:40
1 reply
Liquid grim fanboys malding
2022-01-13 17:03
#4
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Brazil falmes
Finally He was so bad
2022-01-12 21:12
4 replies
Why don’t you take all the worst roles vs the best team in the world with no T1 experience? He made the best of his situation
2022-01-12 23:25
3 replies
Excuses for being bad.
2022-01-13 06:32
Literally the worst excuse.
2022-01-13 07:22
+1
2022-01-13 08:59
ok he was bad af
2022-01-12 21:12
1 reply
name checks out
2022-01-13 00:19
F, but expected
2022-01-12 21:12
shocking
2022-01-12 21:12
3 replies
Yes i almost cried hearing these news
2022-01-12 21:27
2 replies
from joy?
2022-01-13 09:43
1 reply
From all the emotions you can know
2022-01-13 09:45
yep
2022-01-12 21:12
will not be missed let's be real he was shit in liquid. gl in next team tho
2022-01-12 21:12
Rip
2022-01-12 21:13
#11
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Taiwan ilkym00th
What a misused talent smh
2022-01-12 21:13
4 replies
The realest comment here.
2022-01-12 23:31
+1
2022-01-13 01:12
All aim no brain. He needed to rush the enemy every round, because he made dumb decisions over and over in crucial rounds.
2022-01-13 06:33
True, should of been used on extra salt, liquid deserves better
2022-01-13 07:23
#12
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United States thespecht
was a beast in triumph, good luck in next team
2022-01-12 21:13
2 replies
#46
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Sweden sn1pie
He had his role there, and he will have it in col again and he will show that he is a tier 1 player
2022-01-12 21:46
1 reply
I have no doubt that he would’ve succeeded given his roles. Obviously it doesn’t work like that tho, you can’t just join a team and take roles away from a person who was #4 in the previous year
2022-01-12 21:59
GGWP
2022-01-12 21:14
sad but expected
2022-01-12 21:14
Rip. Gl
2022-01-12 21:14
goodbye loser
2022-01-12 21:14
2 replies
He's probably happy to step away from toxic fans
2022-01-12 21:21
fake fan so toxic. You are the reason why Liquid will also choke bro.
2022-01-13 00:20
i like oreos
2022-01-12 21:14
2 replies
#23
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Finland R3L1C
+1
2022-01-12 21:17
+1
2022-01-12 21:34
It’s all coming together
2022-01-12 21:15
#20
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United States TARIK_GOAT
poor grim
2022-01-12 21:16
#21
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Poland Ryunar
unluko, but good for grim overall
2022-01-12 21:16
#24
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Albania aplasa
sad for grim but happy for him to be star player again in complexity
2022-01-12 21:18
gl in coL grim. You took your experience, time to rise up with a new home!
2022-01-12 21:22
-nitr0 +nitr0 nice
2022-01-12 21:23
1 reply
So bad. What do they think will change lol. Just find someone new
2022-01-12 21:25
his time in liquid was crazy, and I don't think it's his fault that things went how they did. stop using him as a scapegoat mens
2022-01-12 21:24
2 replies
+1 and he was brought into the team from triumph where he was playing as a entry or lurker idk but in liquid he was put into support roles and expected to deliver
2022-01-12 21:28
But at the same time, he was content to play those roles. You cannot always blame others for your lack of confidence and assertiveness. Grim will play better in complexity, that's for sure.
2022-01-13 03:15
#32
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Slovakia yozhko
Quality player, just unlucky not win anything major at Liquid :/ GL in the future.
2022-01-12 21:27
COL
2022-01-12 21:28
2 replies
#96
JT | 
United States cybonics
top 1 2022
2022-01-13 00:39
1 reply
not top 1 but this team has potential for a top 10
2022-01-13 11:16
#36
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxyownz
UNDESERVED! Give this guy a good team with star role
2022-01-12 21:29
#38
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Chile 1cristiaan
ggwp mike
2022-01-12 21:32
Good, his talent was wasted on Liquid, I hope he joins a good team and proves the haters wrong :D
2022-01-12 21:33
ok so complexity is happening
2022-01-12 21:35
No more baiting for Fallen, no more playing bad spots, 1grimathy counter-strike bout to pop off!!!
2022-01-12 21:37
washed up 21 yo
2022-01-12 21:37
#45
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Japan Legoshi
Complexity time Pog
2022-01-12 21:41
#47
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Papua New Guinea AlphaSwede
FalleN should have stayed and shox got kicked for a reason. I really don't understand these moves
2022-01-12 21:47
9 replies
Liquid probably did the moviments that fanbase to want, then all they will go to tier 2 satisfied 🤣
2022-01-12 23:06
#81
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United States gweees
Fallen should not have stayed im sorry but 1.00 as a main awper isn't cutting it anymore
2022-01-12 23:31
7 replies
#84
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Papua New Guinea AlphaSwede
It's not about AWP. That's why everyone cried on HLTV because they expect some 'start awper' It's about being an experience IGL which NA really needed past few years
2022-01-12 23:37
6 replies
#86
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United States gweees
Nitro is that though and won't take up nearly as much space as fallen.
2022-01-12 23:40
5 replies
Nitr0 had 0.9 rating and 0.7 impact in 2020, he is even worse than karrigan stats-wise Imo his and shoxies signing are mistakes
2022-01-13 00:08
2 replies
Nitro was playing support at the end vs fallen was playing main awp. 1.00 for your main awp is really bad. Even amanek did better.
2022-01-13 03:17
1 reply
And he spent 1 year outside cs. You really think they are better with nitr0 and shox? If at least stewie stayed, It wouldnt have been so bad
2022-01-13 05:34
#97
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Papua New Guinea AlphaSwede
How come everyone suddenly forgot how awful Nitro was and how bad there were in need of an AWP? That's why Liquid fell apart (the one with nitro) You all have some kind of short memory or what
2022-01-13 00:57
1 reply
They feel apart because of covid mostly. They were worse when nitro left. I guess you had short memories too or you didn't follow liquid when they were struggling in na.
2022-01-13 03:19
#48
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United Kingdom _xC4ctus
RIP GRIM. extra salt grim loooking hawt
2022-01-12 21:49
5 replies
CoL**
2022-01-13 15:28
4 replies
#174
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United Kingdom _xC4ctus
what did you say? HM
2022-01-13 18:51
3 replies
thats for funspark, hes still moving to col
2022-01-13 19:44
2 replies
#177
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United Kingdom _xC4ctus
its a lie. dont believe them. col dont wanna fuck themselves again so they disbanding and quitting
2022-01-13 20:30
1 reply
wut
2022-01-13 22:49
#49
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Poland Szcz
17 months wtf? why did they keep him for so long?
2022-01-12 21:50
gl grim hope you do well in col!
2022-01-12 21:53
GL GRIM!!!!!
2022-01-12 22:00
An impressive 17 months run, 17 months longer than it had any right to be. I wish I earned that kind of money doing nothing and being a famous person while having no talents and t3 CSGO skill
2022-01-12 22:12
1 reply
Ok
2022-01-12 22:41
i feel like he performed pretty well and lasted longer than expected GL in the future grim!
2022-01-12 22:15
grim to valorant! Nice!
2022-01-12 22:17
1 reply
Complexity actually JT Fang Floppy Grim Junior
2022-01-12 22:59
A talented young player just short of breaking out Thanks Mr Wince, and best of luck for the future. I hope you find a great team
2022-01-12 22:21
#60
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Finland AliSabid
Gl mens!
2022-01-12 22:28
why
2022-01-12 22:37
Come on lulquid get autimatic
2022-01-12 22:38
1 reply
+1 they need the us goat
2022-01-13 08:30
#64
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United States GiantDays
see ya around, grimothy 💪
2022-01-12 22:40
Grim = great player
2022-01-12 22:44
#67
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Canada Lachance
He will rise back
2022-01-12 22:53
rip to pit god hope he finds a good team
2022-01-12 22:53
He’s gunna kick ass in Complexity. Liquid gave him a lot of time to get use to tier 1 CS AND HE’s gunna take what he learned and bounce back.
2022-01-12 23:00
#72
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North America Shmikeb0b
good for him. no more eligeyesman
2022-01-12 23:02
Grim won no trophies but lost most of his hair KEKW
2022-01-12 23:05
Sad :(
2022-01-12 23:11
#76
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Brazil Elakk
Fallen and grim got fucked by stewie and snakelige
2022-01-12 23:15
Liquid has had some surprise successes, but with every move they make I would be more and more surprised at their success. I can't see this roster going anywhere.
2022-01-12 23:17
#78
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Canada chanse
In 2022, grim, stewie, or even fallen could be better than baiter,lurker,drama queen shoxie everyday. Liquid is seeking their doom.
2022-01-12 23:22
4 replies
#88
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Sweden dogtown
Shox just will never make sense. It's such a joke signing.
2022-01-12 23:51
3 replies
most clutch player of all time joining one of the biggest choking teams of all time... yeah it makes no sense though
2022-01-13 01:13
2 replies
#140
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Sweden dogtown
he was the most clutch like 3 years ago my bro.. Times have changed lol
2022-01-13 08:30
1 reply
seqs
2022-01-13 19:27
Was playing like a statue on B. Coitado, botavam pra jogar sozinho na B igual a um cone.
2022-01-12 23:33
#83
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North America Shmikeb0b
Good on him. he deserved better.
2022-01-12 23:34
w/e
2022-01-12 23:39
#87
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Sweden dogtown
They should have never signed him.
2022-01-12 23:50
GL Grim
2022-01-13 00:07
Goodbye :(
2022-01-13 00:08
#98
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Ukraine felzcsgo
+nitro
2022-01-13 01:00
I will continue to root for him wherever he goes -- dude can frag and has good game sense for sure belongs in T1
2022-01-13 01:07
way to go grim...if nothing else you helped to beat Navi when they were so dominant in 2021...
2022-01-13 01:12
This guy was bad as fuck, you can say "he has bad role vs t1" but even in FPL he is shit.....
2022-01-13 01:15
1 reply
bad role is just an excuse from weaks , a good player will be good anywhere . it's cs go not league of legend
2022-01-13 09:42
#105
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Brazil Shinoky
unexpected
2022-01-13 01:20
#106
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Canada Jonesyk
Elige did Grim dirty..
2022-01-13 01:58
3 replies
I guess stewie was nice with him by the looks of f thing.
2022-01-13 03:22
How so?
2022-01-13 06:30
#133
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Germany who|cars
+1 hope they will disband, but shoxz already found new home ...
2022-01-13 06:47
#109
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Poland Matxiuu
Sadge
2022-01-13 02:26
Gl
2022-01-13 03:30
Elige is destroying NA CS with his ego.
2022-01-13 04:27
It is really disheartening seeing Grim, an amazing NA player, displaced in a struggling liquid after the release of Nitr0. He is incredibly moldable in Liquids dynamic yet could never fit the cogs of the other star players, I believe this greatly hindered his space for individual success as well as the success of a major winning Liquid. Hopefully with the new roster changes from EG and Liquid we can see competitive major title winning NA teams contending again. Im sure we'd all love to see Grim take Complexity to a top tier level in the following year where Complexity can contend for a major title alongside EG and Liquid. Just like stewies rise to the CS hall of fame by bringing NACS to the top, can Grim do the same in his career to come? I think so.
2022-01-13 06:14
Grim to Cloud9?
2022-01-13 06:14
He should have been gone a long time ago. He cost Liquid important rounds in important matches over and over.
2022-01-13 06:30
+nitr0
2022-01-13 06:33
Wtf this news always duplicates each other? "GRIM, STEWIE2K AND FALLEN REMOVED FROM LIQUID'S STARTING LINE UP" also "Liquid confirm osee, shox signing" NOW Liquid part away with Grim. What next? Liquid part away with stewie? part away with Fallen? Why all this news are separate??
2022-01-13 07:42
1 reply
being removed from line-up doesn't mean you're off the team. he was benched at first then later released.
2022-01-13 08:54
bot_kick Grim
2022-01-13 08:29
#141
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Sweden SamBbbb
RIP Minecraft Steve You will be missed Kapp
2022-01-13 08:31
gl champ. you playing pit on inferno were my most favourite moments of you fragging out ^
2022-01-13 09:10
#146
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Canada AyyyJayyy
:( sad
2022-01-13 09:26
#153
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Russia mshkoda
He was not lucky to come to Liquid at the sunset of this roster. He needs to move to Europe now, so as not to disappear. Good luck.
2022-01-13 10:16
#155
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Brazil Tieta
Grim + Junior in next team
2022-01-13 11:33
Unlucko
2022-01-13 11:36
best player on a sinking ship
2022-01-13 11:40
#158
KQLY | 
Russia P0vTr
-Grim -E LUL ge +nitr0 +TenZ The GOAT team with the longest era ^
2022-01-13 12:17
2 replies
If TenZ came back to CS he would still be a failure.
2022-01-13 16:28
1 reply
#173
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Russia P0vTr
still 3 times better than the worst star player in cs history elulge
2022-01-13 18:44
#159
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Madagascar valennyaa
Has future gl
2022-01-13 12:20
bntet in
2022-01-13 12:44
Fallen, Grim, NAF were nice together, great guys
2022-01-13 14:40
Bot_Grim has left the game
2022-01-13 15:36
this guy got fucked so hard in Liquid, i hope to see him get back into his star rifler role in col, because it was depressing to see such a talent being put into such shit positions and basically being the bitch of the team who had to do everything the other guys didn't want to do.
2022-01-13 15:42
wasted at liquid
2022-01-13 15:57
good move he was average player at max classic NA player
2022-01-13 15:59
#170
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Denmark twinseN
Just announce Nitro already come on
2022-01-13 16:51
#172
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Germany Teztyment
was such a huge terrible letdown for NA.cs
2022-01-13 18:28
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