Is the modern AWPer really too passive?

The accepted narrative says that AWPers in 2022 save more, re-peek less, and go for fewer opening duels than their predecessors. But do the stats back this up?

The AWP is the most powerful weapon in Counter-Strike. It always has been, and chances are it always will be. Throughout the game's lifespan, no matter the unique style of the gun's wielder, the gist of AWPing has remained the same: It is so expensive that buying it necessitates reward.

How a player extracts that reward has varied, with the likes of Jesper "⁠JW⁠" Wecksell, Kenny "⁠kennyS⁠" Schrub, Ladislav "⁠GuardiaN⁠" Kovács, and Gabriel "⁠FalleN⁠" Toledo each defining their own styles of AWPing in the first five years of the game. But it was Nicolai "⁠device⁠" Reedtz, under the tutorship of Danny "⁠zonic⁠" Sørensen, who gave us the first glimpse into what modern AWPing would become.

One aspect of this was how studious device was, famously using heatmap data to kill FalleN nine times on Overpass in the PGL Krakow 2017 quarter-final. The Dane was all about efficiency, his style visibly less flashy than what had come before; every position device took was designed to give him the easiest shot possible. He also was one of the first to play the probability game cautiously, regularly choosing to save his AWP.

Helvijs "⁠broky⁠" Saukants only attempted 14.5% of FaZe's opening duels at IEM Katowice 2022 en route to his MVP: An outlier or a sign of the times?

Of course, device was not the first AWPer to use a safer, passive style, but he was the first true superstar to play in such an efficient manner. His perfect positioning became just as, if not more, important as his already plentiful mechanical skill — how often do you see device have to flick to hit a target? This became a blueprint for future AWPers who operate within their side's system rather than above them.

And you can see why. Utility usage is so good in modern Counter-Strike that many of the superstars of old's popular peeks and angles are now obsolete. Any position where you cannot fall away from once flashed is now simply a bad position. Re-peeking has become a sin, and losing your AWP cheaply by dying doing so is even worse.

Even superstars like Aleksandr "⁠s1mple⁠" Kostyliev and Mathieu "⁠ZywOo⁠" Herbaut tend to re-position rather than re-peek and risk losing their life and their weapon. In fact, the AWP is so valuable in today's economy that the likes of device's style, one that is considered passive by many, pales in comparison to the passivity of those that followed him. Opening kills are no longer a requirement for AWPers, with broky and Dmitry "⁠sh1ro⁠" Sokolov earning MVPs purely on mid and late round impact.

Look how aggressive the 'passive' device looks when compared to sh1ro, the mascot of the next generation of snipers

That is how the narrative goes, anyway. And, if you watch a demo of broky or sh1ro, it is a convincing one. Entry fragging is just not their role in their team’s incredibly well-oiled systems. They are their teams' closers, dishing out clutches and multi-kills in late round scenarios for fun but happily saving if trades don't go their way. They do not avoid opening duels out of a lack of skill, as watching any broky highlight proves; it is a deliberate choice to deploy their firepower more carefully.

This is illustrated in the chart below: broky and sh1ro cluster to the left of the scattergram, attempting far less than 20% of their teams opening kills. The chart also shows just how s1mple and ZywOo transcend the meta, both posting similar success rates but in far higher volume.

kennyS, over his whole career, ends up on the more passive end of the scale, hovering around 18% Op Attempts. In his peak year of 2014, though, this jumped to 26.5%.

But this narrative still needs greater exploration — can we really say the 'modern AWPer' is passive when the two best AWPers in the world are aggressive rotators in s1mple and ZywOo, even if they rarely re-peek?

Taking all AWPers (defined as players with more than 35% of their kills coming with a sniper over the calendar year) with more than forty maps played on LAN in each year, there does seem to be a trend upwards. 2013 and 2014 suffer from a small sample size, but from 2015 onwards there is a steady but noticeable climb from an average of 35% rounds survived (or a DPR of 0.65) for AWPers towards the 40% mark (a DPR of 0.60).

An increase of just 4% might seem small but 2021's figure (which takes into account more than 20 players) for all AWPers is 38.6% — about the same as ZywOo's figure in Big Events throughout his whole career. The 2015 average of 34.7%, meanwhile, compares to Owen "⁠smooya⁠" Butterfield's figure in Big Events, a player who has been criticised for being too aggressive recently.

Among the very best AWPers — those that make it into HLTV's top 20 list — the trend is even more pronounced, with the six primary AWPers that made it onto the 2021 list surviving, on average, 42.17% of rounds. And that number of six, for the record, is the highest amount of AWPers on a top 20 list ever.

2013 and 2014 suffer from small sample size, but 2015 onwards includes data from 18+ AWPers

Over a wide sample size then, AWPers do seem to be surviving more in 2021 than in years gone by, so the data matches the eye test. Going in deeper, other breakout AWPers in top 20 teams such as Ilya "⁠m0NESY⁠" Osipov, Ádám "⁠torzsi⁠" Torzsás, and Aleksei "⁠El1an⁠" Gusev all have high survival rates (39-41%) and less than 20% opening kill attempts on LAN in 2022. Passive AWPing, it seems, is here to stay.

But why has AWPing gone this way? One factor is the online era, with its saving meta flattering some players' surviving statistics. But this does not make the data invalid — it is actually the whole point of the measure. Saving is a direct consequence of the increase in value placed on an AWPer's life.

Another factor might be the dominance of the AWPer in the upper echelons of the CS scene. For a while, it seemed like teams could get by with four strong riflers and their IGL as the primary AWPer. Mathias "⁠MSL⁠" Lauridsen's win at DreamHack Stockholm was ultimately the outlier for his North team but Nick "⁠nitr0⁠" Cannella's Team Liquid made the AWP-less team composition stick en route to an Intel Grand Slam.

Nowadays, an AWPing IGL must frag; Heroic and Virtus.pro's successes have correlated with strong performances from their captains. Heroic in particular have struggled against the AWP of s1mple, the Danes having last beaten Natus Vincere in 2019 when GuardiaN was still on the roster. nitr0 has returned to Liquid but it is Josh "⁠oSee⁠" Ohm who will wield the Big Green.

In the era of s1mple and ZywOo, teams are searching for a star AWPer before they can even consider competing for titles.

The lesson learned from G2 and Nikola "⁠NiKo⁠" Kovač's many grand final defeats to Natus Vincere is that s1mple (and ZywOo) cannot be countered by pure rifle firepower. In July 2021, after the departure of device to NIP, Lukas "⁠gla1ve⁠" Rossander said that "since we don't have [a consistent AWP player] I don't see us taking the No.1 spot for quite some time."

Since then, he has been proven right. Whether new signing Asger "⁠Farlig⁠" Jensen is that consistent AWP player they have missed remains to be seen, but his signing, as well as that of oSee, m0NESY, Rafael "⁠saffee⁠" Costa, and torzsi, reflect a scene that is pivoting back towards squads having a central sniper.

For this new generation — though maybe not to the extreme of sh1ro, broky, or Dzhami "⁠Jame⁠" Ali — dying remains the worst-case scenario. The modern AWPer values their weapon as highly as their life. Their preparation is extensive, and their risks calculated. To even have a chance to showcase their mechanics, they must fight pixel perfect utility explicitly designed to thwart them.

To return to the original question, are modern AWPers too passive? I would argue no: Passivity is an inevitable consequence of teams getting better at playing against the AWP. Countless factors, notably better utility usage and the fragility of the CT economy, mean that placing an almost unreasonable amount of value on your life is simply the most effective tactic available to AWPers.

United States Josh 'oSee' Ohm
Josh 'oSee' Ohm
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.11
Maps played:
1036
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.63
Latvia Helvijs 'broky' Saukants
Helvijs 'broky' Saukants
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
639
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.61
Slovakia Ladislav 'GuardiaN' Kovács
Ladislav 'GuardiaN' Kovács
Age:
30
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.11
Maps played:
1568
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.62
United States Nick 'nitr0' Cannella
Nick 'nitr0' Cannella
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
1338
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.66
United Kingdom Owen 'smooya' Butterfield
Owen 'smooya' Butterfield
Age:
22
Rating 1.0:
1.17
Maps played:
816
KPR:
0.78
DPR:
0.62
Sweden Jesper 'JW' Wecksell
Jesper 'JW' Wecksell
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
1919
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.68
Russia Dzhami 'Jame' Ali
Dzhami 'Jame' Ali
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.14
Maps played:
1145
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.55
Brazil Rafael 'saffee' Costa
Rafael 'saffee' Costa
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.22
Maps played:
347
KPR:
0.81
DPR:
0.61
Hungary Ádám 'torzsi' Torzsás
Ádám 'torzsi' Torzsás
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.17
Maps played:
405
KPR:
0.78
DPR:
0.63
Russia Dmitry 'sh1ro' Sokolov
Dmitry 'sh1ro' Sokolov
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.22
Maps played:
827
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.53
Bosnia and Herzegovina Nikola 'NiKo' Kovač
Nikola 'NiKo' Kovač
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.16
Maps played:
1590
KPR:
0.80
DPR:
0.67
Russia Ilya 'm0NESY' Osipov
Ilya 'm0NESY' Osipov
Age:
17
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.20
Maps played:
215
KPR:
0.80
DPR:
0.61
Russia Aleksei 'El1an' Gusev
Aleksei 'El1an' Gusev
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.13
Maps played:
1235
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.61
Brazil Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Age:
30
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
1512
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.60
Denmark Nicolai 'device' Reedtz
Nicolai 'device' Reedtz
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.16
Maps played:
1793
KPR:
0.78
DPR:
0.62
Denmark Asger 'Farlig' Jensen
Asger 'Farlig' Jensen
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
644
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.63
Denmark Lukas 'gla1ve' Rossander
Lukas 'gla1ve' Rossander
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
1605
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.66
Denmark Mathias 'MSL' Lauridsen
Mathias 'MSL' Lauridsen
Age:
27
Rating 1.0:
0.92
Maps played:
1716
KPR:
0.64
DPR:
0.72
France Mathieu 'ZywOo' Herbaut
Mathieu 'ZywOo' Herbaut
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.27
Maps played:
960
KPR:
0.85
DPR:
0.62
Ukraine Aleksandr 's1mple' Kostyliev
Aleksandr 's1mple' Kostyliev
Age:
24
Rating 1.0:
1.25
Maps played:
1510
KPR:
0.86
DPR:
0.64
France Kenny 'kennyS' Schrub
Kenny 'kennyS' Schrub
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.13
Maps played:
1852
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.63
LUL
2022-03-22 23:21
25 replies
u can read so fast wtf
2022-03-22 23:22
14 replies
#9
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Finland samuuu38
how about you??
2022-03-22 23:23
13 replies
Next article : Should the AWP be nerfed by Striker plz
2022-03-23 00:23
12 replies
Nerfing an AWP is tough. Maybe you can increase the bolting time ? What else. It is OP. Anyone who disagrees is a silver who read from somewhere to use flashes against AWP LUL
2022-03-23 09:42
11 replies
It's not OP. If it was, you'd see a team playing 5 AWP's. It is the most powerful gun in the game, but in competitive matches it's balanced by its pricing (+ lack of kill-reward) and the lack of flexibility. Thus only one (or two on some maps on CT-side) player holds on AWP per team.
2022-03-23 11:25
6 replies
Of course you cant push with the AWP. "If it was, you'd see a team playing 5 AWP's." How do you even think like that? Of course, economy doesnt allow to buy 5 AWPs. Its like why everyone dont drive Mercedes?
2022-03-23 14:56
5 replies
+1 clueless comment by him to be honest
2022-03-23 15:35
In my book OP means that you literally have to try to fuck shit up to make it a bad decision to buy the gun and that it has pretty much no drawbacks to using it. Yes, the AWP is the most powerful gun, but that doesn't make it OP by default. If the AWP has no drawbacks, then why can't you give a random player on your team the gun and perform with it? Why does gla1ve say they need a dedicated AWP-player? Why can't someone else pick it up? If it's so OP, it's easy to use right? Just have gla1ve play AWP! He did GREAT in that one Blast tournament. OH RIGHT... Gla1ve is actually smart and realizes it takes dedicated practice with the gun to play it on a high-enough level to be consistently good on tier 1. Even the dedicated AWP-er they took in wasn't good enough and was somewhere near the bottom of the scoreboard for most their games! You even said it yourself "Of course, economy doesn't allow to buy 5 AWPs." The economy IS the balance!
2022-03-23 16:00
3 replies
Yeah, AWP balance is very tricky topic. Regarding anyone AWPing, AWPing is not just skills, it requires precise positioning and knowing your angles well. So, a dedicated AWPer would obviously be more impactful than someone like gla1ve.
2022-03-23 16:15
2 replies
But then I wonder what you call overpowered. To me these all seem like things that would balance it out. And yeah, I count skills as overall skills, which includes positioning and knowledge as well, not just mechanically skilled.
2022-03-23 16:27
1 reply
#274
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Netherlands arTvamp
Agree specially if you compare the awp to the old days prenerf or even pre this meta. The way you play with the awp now is way more passive and less repeeking so it is balanced. Hell im an awper and I rather take a rifle 50% of the times now. Seeing I can stop pushes and use grenades more agressively with my rifle behind it. Maybe also because mostly my soloQ team doesnt know how to stop pushes well enough that I take upon this role. Its just the 1 hit one 1 kill potential that the receiving end complains about but thats something that you cant nor should it be changed.
2022-03-31 11:17
Honestly i think the bolting is fine and it also doesn’t really impact the shoot-fallback style much. What i would like to see is reducing the bullets. Make it 5 per mag with 5- or 10 reserve. The awp would still be the same gun but every missed shot would be even more punishing.
2022-03-23 12:41
1 reply
#275
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Netherlands arTvamp
I would be fine with that. This way for example mid doors d2 spamming is demotivated to 2 tries max and its easier to count for the opponent much like its countable when someone runs out with the AK clip. Also in a long push you cant kill more then perhaps 2-3 including a few average missers.
2022-03-31 11:20
noo dont give them any shitty ideas :D
2022-03-25 15:52
5 bullets
2022-04-11 20:56
#92
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Brazil MadVini
Where is Art in this article?
2022-03-23 01:37
9 replies
maybe he is one of the unnamed ones but still +1
2022-03-23 04:42
#149
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Europe Khanan
Since when is arT an awper?
2022-03-23 09:38
7 replies
#162
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Brazil Necro_Spa
he used to be before hen1 joined, much like nitr0 as the IGL AWP
2022-03-23 10:53
1 reply
#276
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Netherlands arTvamp
I am an awper.
2022-03-31 11:20
#226
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Brazil AWFenrir
Art is everything. Awper, entry, IGL, rifler, bait, baiter, support, clutch man, the best and worst player in CSGO. Not even Schrödinger knows exactly what Art is.
2022-03-23 23:12
4 replies
#234
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Brazil eyeShot
Hahahahah 😀😄😆😂🤣
2022-03-24 04:21
#235
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Europe Khanan
You forgot to say he is a shotgun main player 🤣😂
2022-03-24 09:42
1 reply
best shotgun in da world LET'S GOOO
2022-03-25 00:23
#272
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Brazil drydden
arT nick checks out LMAO
2022-03-30 17:59
Yes E.g sh1ro
2022-03-22 23:22
5 replies
Sh1ro doesn't play for EG
2022-03-22 23:39
4 replies
very nice
2022-03-22 23:47
easy EG fix though
2022-03-23 00:25
1 reply
Only if EG will buy whole Players roster
2022-03-23 04:17
0/8
2022-03-24 17:40
#4
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Poland Neo[T]orius
yes possibly only s0mple most agro awper
2022-03-22 23:23
7 replies
smooya imo
2022-03-23 00:26
#110
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Hungary anw_
JW better
2022-03-23 03:48
#135
ropz | 
Argentina GGsus
arT is the most agro
2022-03-23 08:03
4 replies
+1 No doubt
2022-03-25 20:28
Saffee awp, art secondary btw
2022-03-30 10:02
1 reply
Last year art are the main awper, good thing they now had saffee tho lol
2022-04-19 17:02
Without question, this dude just fearless and don't give a shit even with awp xD
2022-04-19 17:02
Cry is free
2022-03-22 23:22
1 reply
You are dumb.
2022-03-27 18:04
no
2022-03-22 23:22
#8
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England ItsDan_HLTV
Interesting take
2022-03-22 23:23
cry
2022-03-22 23:23
#11
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Finland Cucumber))
yes
2022-03-22 23:23
JAME TIME moment. Awpers aren't impressive. The best csgo player of the last 5 years is NiKo.
2022-03-22 23:23
14 replies
Hope Hunter's cousin will succeed (stop choking)
2022-03-22 23:33
ChoKo 0 majors
2022-03-22 23:40
yeah no major no top1 no igs goat NiKo made me rofl
2022-03-23 00:56
+1
2022-03-23 01:02
I think it's a little disingenuous to say AWPers aren't impressive. There's still a lot of round left to play after the opening kill, some of these clutch players are insane
2022-03-23 01:25
this isn't impressive to you? youtube.com/watch?v=bKvN_mauMRM
2022-03-23 03:24
7 replies
#125
TenZ | 
Russia P0vTr
>impressive >stupid flick with s1mple's pretty high sensitivity ?
2022-03-23 06:28
5 replies
Accuracy and reaction time is what is impressive. Same things you need on a good rifler to succeed. And being accurate consistently with a high sens is objectively harder than with a low sens, hence why impressive. 🤷‍♂️
2022-03-23 07:02
3 replies
#218
TenZ | 
Russia P0vTr
>Accuracy and reaction time is what is impressive I'M SORRY — ACCURACY???? 140 DEGREES FLICK'S ACCURACY? That's not even something that can be trained — pure luck. Flicking in this game for more than 5-10 degrees can't be measured in terms of accuracy — that's just a lucky shot try just like e.g. smoke spam. >Same things you need on a good rifler to succeed
2022-03-23 19:44
2 replies
You can train flicks the likes of which s1mple hit in that nuke clip. You can actually train yourself. You're either a low rank player or a troll. Smfh smoke spam, jumping shots, no scopes are pure luck. Flicks require SKILL to land. Btw idk who the fuck hits a 140 degree flick. It's not a thing!! Idk how you came up with that.
2022-03-23 20:46
1 reply
nah I've done it but yeah pure luck
2022-03-26 04:03
+1
2022-03-23 15:03
Genuinely the most disgusting shot I have ever seen haha. So glad I caught it live
2022-03-27 23:01
#120
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Brazil Lok72
-1
2022-03-23 05:01
#13
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Latvia staL-
when Fallen god didnt hold it of cours it passive.
2022-03-22 23:24
#14
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
that was a pretty good read. nice opinion NER0cs & +1
2022-03-22 23:25
>One aspect of this was how studious device was, famously using heatmap data to kill FalleN nine times on Overpass in the PGL Krakow 2017 semi-final. why would you bring back this terrible memory
2022-03-22 23:25
11 replies
lol +1
2022-03-23 00:39
fake flagger
2022-03-23 08:23
9 replies
If I put BR flag ppl will start saying I live in favelas and rob candies from kids for a living :(
2022-03-23 12:22
8 replies
be proud of your country's heritage lmao. you know how many times I have been asked if i live in a tree?
2022-03-23 18:16
7 replies
Do you?
2022-03-23 23:01
1 reply
yep. next to your country's embassy. Yours is a smaller tree though. you should also see my pet lion
2022-03-24 04:11
Wtf lol
2022-03-23 23:12
have you ever tried riding a lion? i wish we had those here in the jungle
2022-03-26 02:29
3 replies
have you ever robbed someone in the favela?
2022-03-26 04:38
2 replies
plenty of times! You have to be really careful, though. If they find out, you can tell bye bye to one of your fingers. how about you?
2022-03-26 16:29
1 reply
it's easy. just hold on to the mane with one hand and yank its tail with the other
2022-03-26 16:36
thank you mr hltv
2022-03-22 23:25
good article, only thing is that it was PGL Quarter-Finals, not Semis
2022-03-22 23:29
2 replies
#35
gla1ve | 
Denmark JKTP
They corrected it ;)
2022-03-22 23:41
1 reply
yeah i saw, pog :D
2022-03-23 09:56
#19
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Europe peagod
that was a really good topic, more topics like this please
2022-03-22 23:31
6 replies
#89
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Finland Nollegee
+1
2022-03-23 01:30
+1
2022-03-23 13:29
+1
2022-03-23 13:40
#210
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United Kingdom VenoK
+1
2022-03-23 16:30
+1
2022-03-23 20:22
#267
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Brazil ac_Z
+1
2022-03-30 13:43
Alpha_Brazilian come here
2022-03-22 23:31
#22
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United Kingdom Mayhemm
I do love a good graph. although I think some more statistical analysis would be nice. (means, standard deviations). Really good piece though.
2022-03-22 23:33
6 replies
stay tuned 👀
2022-03-22 23:55
5 replies
#55
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Romania hazelnuut
Good job man, loved it.
2022-03-23 00:04
#84
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United Kingdom Mayhemm
Looking forward to it. Keep up the good work!
2022-03-23 01:26
#133
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Ecuador Ageless
Great work, thanks for the interesting piece!
2022-03-23 07:37
#173
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Denmark slacking
reported for using emojis
2022-03-23 11:50
Good article
2022-03-23 19:47
Good read. Ty
2022-03-22 23:34
#24
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Serbia VasaLav
cry
2022-03-22 23:35
#26
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Chile 1cristiaan
no
2022-03-22 23:37
As a awper i pref a lot this passive meta, 3/4 years ago always "us" trying to get entry kills and opening space... i think the new meta of entry/2nd entry its way better overall for attack
2022-03-22 23:37
2 replies
gl LOL
2022-03-27 18:06
#291
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Poland perun2033
wtf
2022-04-19 15:52
whole meta is more passive, not just awpers. Rushes are so easily punished by proper utility usage, defaults and better spams
2022-03-22 23:37
great article
2022-03-22 23:38
1 reply
#36
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Brazil Padrinho1
Indeed.
2022-03-22 23:41
Shiro fans mad
2022-03-22 23:39
5 replies
it just says sh1ro is revolutionary and his playstyle is here to stay because of the changes in the meta I see no issue
2022-03-22 23:45
4 replies
The exitfragger safemeta?
2022-03-23 00:07
3 replies
Sh1ro was the best clutcher last year.
2022-03-23 04:24
2 replies
#126
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Russia P0vTr
90% 1v1/1v2 clutches with bomb being planted or any other great advantage in favour of sh1ro. Boring.
2022-03-23 06:32
1 reply
cry is free
2022-03-23 14:51
#32
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Brazil hilquiasf
Okay, good article! :) For now, without additions, I'm still looking at the current passivity of AWPers.
2022-03-22 23:40
while it's not wrong, I think hltv 2.0 rating should adjust to that, this simply bloats awpers stats by so much, even though it's not necessarily true in some cases.
2022-03-22 23:43
6 replies
#91
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Finland Nollegee
Maybe make an AWP rating and add it to a different category? Maybe it would be stupid but kinda nice to see how people would do with rifle/pistol etc. and AWP as its on rating.
2022-03-23 01:36
1 reply
if it doesnt get factored into top 20 then sure but other than that, its pretty dumb
2022-03-23 02:40
I think Leetfiy's rating uses something where they consider the investment to kill (AWP = 4750) vs the investment of the killed player (AK = 2700) in the impact/general rating. It's something that could be considered, since the economy is so important. So a kill when you only have a Deagle would be worth more than a kill on a full-buy round.
2022-03-23 11:32
3 replies
Thats pretty interesting actually, would be a good change for the rating 3.0
2022-03-24 14:30
I think Valorant (pardon my language) also uses this. Damage done related on money spent.
2022-03-27 23:04
#268
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Brazil ac_Z
It would be interesting to try to equate rifle impact to awp. This passive and risk-free style of the new awpers greatly favors the statistics and compared to rifles they are much superior.
2022-03-30 13:47
AWPing is more passive since the nerf long time ago
2022-03-22 23:44
1 reply
But even then, over time it's passiveness has been growing.
2022-03-23 11:32
Sh1ro only look for open kills when enemy team doing eco.
2022-03-22 23:45
Is it me or modern awping is a bit of a boring style? Like you see at the end of the year "oh wow broky top 10" but you can never remember his impact. can u remember a single broky kill ? but try guardian...u can see the flick i remember a guardian flick
2022-03-22 23:45
7 replies
Guardian 1v5 against fnatic never forget
2022-03-22 23:49
That was the biggest diff between GuardiaN and kennys in their prime time (they was both the best in same time), kennys was too agressive, when the things went well he could carry the maps or other way he could make his team lose. And guardian was the guy always securing sides, playing passive and securing rounds for the team... and thats why overall in that time NaVi was winning so many trophies (and after on FaZe same history).
2022-03-22 23:50
All this kid does is just hold a gay ass off angle with his deag and one clicks people in the side of the head CT side. Fucking terrbile player tbh.....1.4 sensitivity 400dpi using trashcan. Anyone who uses a low sens does not have the dexterity to properly play FPS games on PC. All the shitty baiters use a low sens to click people on the back of the head, or they are equally worthless and use the telescope gun and one click people in the body. I bet this kid doesn't even play FFA Dm's cuz he'd throw his arm out of his socket checking corners. When was the last time you've seen Niko popflash through a smoke, and flick too two people to open up a site??? All this dude does is hold shift and prefire common angles. like wow dude, ur fucking nuts. you can have parkinsons disease and play on 1.4 sens if ur just baiting and clicking heads on common angles. this is why forest and get right are sick players. they play on higher senitivities, and can do more than bait and off angle one click.
2022-03-22 23:54
3 replies
#127
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Russia P0vTr
>NIKO_TOP1_2022 >accusing low sensitivity players in being trash Choose one
2022-03-23 06:34
1 reply
Its a copypasta you genius And its exactly about Niko
2022-03-23 08:40
Not only are you delusional. Your irrational hate for a csgo player who would dome you and pros 99 times out of a 100. Someone who has done it over and over again against top competition and you gonna call him a noob lol ? Wow you actually believe your own fairy tales … delusional little boy. Feelsbadman.
2022-04-08 01:10
flair checks out but honestly in broky's case, yes. his impact is huge.
2022-03-23 12:21
wouldve liked to see m0nesy and torzsi stats
2022-03-22 23:51
#47
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Cyprus shmoe
no word of syrsoN in an article about modern awping.. what a shame.
2022-03-22 23:54
so, sh1ro god of new meta?
2022-03-22 23:54
#51
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Brazil hugoooo
YOLO AWP like arT
2022-03-22 23:57
3 replies
I tried but i got kicked from mm match. Any suggestions what i was doing wrong? The last thing that i could hear before i got kicked was "stop pushing you idiot" I just wanted to copy arT style
2022-03-23 00:11
2 replies
#61
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Brazil hugoooo
To play like arT, you have to push but you have to communicate with perfection, because if you don't give the correct calls about what you're seeing/listening while pushing, you will die in vain all the time
2022-03-23 00:13
you need to have at least some level of aim
2022-03-23 05:13
zywoo awp kills are just 36% of his frags he is not really comparable to any main awper , making his rating even more impressing
2022-03-23 00:04
2 replies
+1 zywoo is least awp abuser out of all main awpers
2022-03-23 04:21
#269
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Brazil ac_Z
This is really true. I've seen zywoo play with different weapons and sometimes even a pistol to make his teammates armed, unlike s1mple who usually plays with Eagle, AK/M4 and Awp.
2022-03-30 13:52
Very interesting article.
2022-03-23 00:01
Thanks NEROcs, good article mate
2022-03-23 00:03
#58
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Philippines libon23
s1mple goat
2022-03-23 00:09
good read bitch
2022-03-23 00:09
Nice article Ner0.
2022-03-23 00:10
I enjoyed reading this. Thanks :)
2022-03-23 00:17
#63
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Poland Tydan
arT disagrees 😎
2022-03-23 00:18
nice article, time to be awper
2022-03-23 00:22
"Re-peeking has become a sin, and losing your AWP cheaply by dying doing so is even worse." Confused how this is a valid sentence with no grammar errors.
2022-03-23 00:23
3 replies
#76
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Germany RIP_MY_NIP
"by dying doing so" wtf hltv smoking
2022-03-23 00:57
2 replies
Yes but all the free grammar checkers I put the sentence into said it was clean lol.
2022-03-23 15:44
1 reply
It's just very awkward wording. Not grammatically incorrect as far as I am aware, speaking as someone who used to tutor writing.
2022-04-21 01:53
Very cool
2022-03-23 00:24
Striker cry more
2022-03-23 00:30
2018 s1mple was overpeaking and some dipshits said he is overpeaking too much and thats why NAVI lose.
2022-03-23 00:32
"The modern AWPer values their weapon as highly as their life" -Jame
2022-03-23 00:46
1 reply
That's a quote to save and keep
2022-03-23 19:44
#74
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Norway Snaids
Tldr shiro boring anyway
2022-03-23 00:48
1 reply
If u will watch his FPL games u will see he playing omega agressive. In gmb he plays passive bcs it his role...
2022-03-23 14:53
i personally dont think the awpers are passive or aggressive it just depends on the certain situations theyre in. Most cases they usually bait their teammates to get aggressive and depends on whom theyre playing against sometimes being a passive awper can be a good thing,
2022-03-23 00:58
JW GIGA CHAD
2022-03-23 01:06
1 reply
#80
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Papua New Guinea AlphaSwede
+1
2022-03-23 01:11
#81
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Switzerland gkbmagic
Brilliant article using stats and comparing awpers. Keep going! It was really a revelation. Device always being called passive has similar opening kill success vs opening kill tries to Simple and zywoo which makes you really think that actually simple and zywoo are passive awpers too. Brilliant!
2022-03-23 01:11
#82
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Papua New Guinea AlphaSwede
Instead of writing artice you could've just told us right away that JW is goated and no awper will ever come close to his impact. jk Great article
2022-03-23 01:12
Awping becoming passive isn't a shock, same with repeeking. They nerfed movement speed which really made it hard to take consistently aggressive stances with the AWP. It's partly why KennyS became more passive and also less impactful. But also, the tools to get out of trouble when holding an AWP were scaled back. Not exactly a bad thing, as JW + CZ was a straight meme at one point in time.
2022-03-23 01:26
1 reply
#284
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Uzbekistan R_Sick
Second that, AWP right now is in the place it should be
2022-04-08 10:05
#86
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Brazil Pitzera
Amazing article! I thought there was a mistake at the graph comparing sh1ro and device, on the chart's DPR. I found the scale a little confusing. Anyway, very good job!
2022-03-23 01:26
3 replies
The radar charts probably deserved a bit more of explanation but they're based on percentiles. Sh1ro has the lowest DPR of the sample I took so his reaches the end, maybe more intuitive if we label it "surviving" in future, so Ty :)
2022-03-23 03:01
2 replies
#228
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Brazil Pitzera
Thanks for replying :) Those 8 kpi's percentiles are calculated only on awpers? Or only the awpers related (like Sniper KPR and DPR) ? Yes, maybe labelling it as "surviving" would work well, since using "DPR" can cause some missinterpretation due to Higher -> Worse. Looking forward for more statisticals articles like this!
2022-03-24 00:36
1 reply
Yep took a sample size of lots of AWPers to create the percentiles. Not really fair to compare riflers in stuff like DPR/Rating Thanks for the feedback! Definitely more to come :D
2022-03-25 14:04
KEKW No
2022-03-23 01:27
#88
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Canada RelayS
Wheres jame time?
2022-03-23 01:29
idk but i still remember guardian flick
2022-03-23 01:35
awp abusers smh
2022-03-23 01:52
#95
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Brazil _Awper
KennyS, Fallen and Guardian was more impressive than all top awpers from the past 3 years. HLTV Rating is biased towards awpers, any normal person that is not blind by fanboyism knows that Olof, Coldzera, Niko are also more impressive than those awpers. They were the perfect csgo players, not the perfect AWP player, don't get me wrong, I think S1mple and zywoo are indeed great players. but they are not better CSGO players than prime Olof or Coldzera, even Niko, they are just better AWP players in a meta that values the awper more than anything.
2022-03-23 02:22
5 replies
they WERE impressive, well said, the problem is that it's not viable to play that style in current cs.. there's really only s1mple, zywoo and m0nesy who are able to thrive in t1 with aggressive awp right now. otherwise the vast majority of top awpers will play clinical back in the day if you wanted to be an awper you kinda needed to play that way nowadays it's the opposite
2022-03-23 02:32
As #96 said the game has changed and players and roles changed as well. That's like speculating if Pele could still score as much vs modern football defence.
2022-03-23 04:36
You are also forgetting that players like s1mple and ZywOo use the AWP because it's the most efficient gun, not because they can't rifle. Niko is a better rifler than both, but he also doesn't play anything but the rifle. When you watch s1mple use an AK or Deagle, you could argue that he's on a similar level to Niko, probably just below, but that comes from less dedication to the play-style.
2022-03-23 15:40
2 replies
#229
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Brazil _Awper
I never said they can't rifle. Also, nope, S1mple is not even close to Niko's AK, M4, or Deagle. He is definitely closer to Niko's rifling than Niko is close to his AWP skill, but that's not the point.
2022-03-24 00:48
#270
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Brazil ac_Z
I particularly think Zywoo is the most "complete" player in recent years, because even though he is the star, he still occasionally plays with inferior weapons to his companions. S1mple and Niko I see more as "give him the best weapon we have and let him sort it out".
2022-03-30 14:02
#97
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Turkey Kuvars
Sad, not mentioned woxic who was one of the most aggressive awpers.
2022-03-23 02:39
1 reply
#101
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Bahrain Ax1yn
w0xic was only relevant in mousesports team after that he became irrelevant.
2022-03-23 03:00
devve is OpK AWPer in Astralis, much so that gla1ve pretty much mid-call for 5v4 fight
2022-03-23 02:57
Art of Furia is the best opener, not "one of". Very entertaining to watch his "Play"
2022-03-23 02:59
better question: is the modern awp really not OP?
2022-03-23 03:09
1 reply
It's not. If it was, the whole team would buy it, but in competitive CS it's held back by its pricing, lack of kill reward (both very important since you can't buy an AWP every round) and its lack of flexibility.
2022-03-23 15:41
#104
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Netherlands kibitz-
Fuck awpers no skill at all, imagine only killing bcs using 1 hit weapon and cannot play rifles
2022-03-23 03:13
1 reply
imagine choking to no skill all over again, how M is that lmao
2022-03-24 04:00
yeah, too many low impact players with the highest impact gun in the game imo
2022-03-23 03:19
1 reply
These low impact players are not only most often mvps but also have a high number of clutches. Their playstyle also means they tend to keep an awp in more rounds being able to impact the game in far more rounds even when their team has an inferior buy.
2022-03-23 19:41
The whole scene is too passive not just awpers.
2022-03-23 03:37
2 replies
#109
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Brazil _Awper
Most of the players nowadays are playing with their stats in mind.
2022-03-23 03:44
1 reply
Most players have learned that staying alive is sometimes more important than getting the kill. If you 3k, great, but a one for one is rarely a good thing, especially for CT's. Thus CT's try to minimize mistakes and dying, favoring good setups. This results in it being difficult for T's to even get one kill if they recklessly enter a site. The aggressive play-style still exists, but is very up-and-down in results. Look at karrigan for example. He's very aggressive, and when he hits the timings and his shots, it looks great, but when he's off, his style can lose the entire game.
2022-03-23 15:45
Love articles like these. More pls.
2022-03-23 04:22
what is the answer i dont wanna read
2022-03-23 04:26
how can broky attempt an opening kill when Carrygun has either gotten 3 entries or died 5 seconds into every round?
2022-03-23 04:28
1 reply
#183
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Canada dece1t
hahaha, very accurate
2022-03-23 13:33
Why did the article had to unbury that PGL Krakow Major memories. I lost all my skins betting on SK. Then I out more money and bet on Immortals and went doubling my earning at every match until losing it all again on the finals.
2022-03-23 04:51
1 reply
Good betters knows when they have to end
2022-03-23 07:28
nice but the real meta is probably an awper that gets multi frags instead of passive or agressive it is doesnt matter since if u cant get more than 1 basically as an awper u just good as useless as ct but on t side u need to get 1 or ur useless.
2022-03-23 05:19
1 reply
And it's more efficient to get said multi-frags by playing passive and not re-peeking an angle. Thus the meta is passive. In the past you could get away with aggressive AWP-ing and still getting the multi-frags, especially before the nerf.
2022-03-23 15:47
Good read :)
2022-03-23 05:27
Repeek = youre dead basically
2022-03-23 05:53
#128
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Pakistan Mikiq
Ofc JW has the most attempts.
2022-03-23 06:39
awp is op fu valve
2022-03-23 06:52
What is this headline? The best awp actually over all player of all time plays a very active awp. And he is the rolemodel. S1mple rush catas with awp on dust 2 when he is on ct side since the t spawn change. Syrson is also not a very passive awp. He takes duels and search for risk he can take.
2022-03-23 07:37
1 reply
s1mple has a relatively aggressive style, but controlled and safe, thus leading to less deaths. He is still an anomaly in CS-history, so you can't really hold him to those standards. Syrson's play has so far only worked well online, so I wouldn't really consider him in this discussion.
2022-03-23 15:50
ratio 0.9 to stats with awp. 10 kills = 9 kill Same to dpr, kpr etc
2022-03-23 07:42
Thanks for the good read
2022-03-23 08:15
1st rule of awper - kd>game
2022-03-23 08:34
device always will be in my heart, i liked his style sooo muuuuch, his rifle/deagle skillsmwere also on highest level. For other people zywoo or simple were the best but device for me was beast.
2022-03-23 08:35
All I know is watching Jame playing gives me cancer. Even allu in NIP was more entertaining -.-
2022-03-23 08:55
2 replies
And somehow he's not statistically the most passive AWP'er and actually goes for more opening duels than sh1ro and broky. Admittedly, those teams have a different structure where both aren't put into the position to go for openings, but still.
2022-03-23 15:51
1 reply
People overstate how passive Jame is because of how infamous he is for saving. He still plays the rest of the round and is an extremely good player in many respects, he just has a habit of living through the entire thing and did so before it became as prevalent as it is now. I do wish he'd change his playstyle a bit though, I think he is capable enough as a player that saying "screw the odds" more frequently might benefit him.
2022-04-21 02:00
This article just highlights how s1mple and ZywOo are clearly above everyone else all the other potent AWPs have to adapt a passive styles and calculate their risks, while s1mple and ZywOo just go for the frags and still maintain better ratings
2022-03-23 09:04
Imagine comparing sh1ro with device An onliner with one good year with 4 times major winner and 8 times Top 20 player Better comparison would be arT (the most agressive) with Jame (the most passive), because their achievements are fairly comparable
2022-03-23 09:09
3 replies
#213
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Brazil kbrall162
very well said but still a good article
2022-03-23 18:26
1 reply
i agree that this type of articles is what i missed in hltv
2022-03-23 18:29
But people called Device passive and now we really see how passive they are getting.
2022-03-27 19:44
#146
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Netherlands SpiceNut
Good read, pls keep up writing these kind of articles
2022-03-23 09:20
THE ERA OF BAITERS
2022-03-23 09:22
26.5% statistic link under aggression graph links to a 404 admins((
2022-03-23 09:27
s0mple is the most baiter ever agree
2022-03-23 09:52
#153
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Ukraine d3adLY
its about players most baiters players = jame and sh1ro i hope valve will do something with awp and these players wont be camp like before
2022-03-23 10:00
#155
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Hungary ShadYyBoy
Nice article
2022-03-23 10:05
Truth is that most are baiters or stat padders Nice article btw great graphics for comparison
2022-03-23 10:19
AWPussy
2022-03-23 10:21
This was a good read, cheers
2022-03-23 10:41
nerf awp
2022-03-23 10:42
JAME is a coward. probably would run away from a puppy dog in fear
2022-03-23 10:47
2 replies
thats why jame impact rating is so low
2022-03-23 14:55
1 reply
hltv.org/news/33093/top-20-players-of-20.. 1.06 rating is still good considering that he is a leader in the same time He was still looking better than cadiaN in 2021
2022-03-23 18:32
#163
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Hungary Axelboi
What a thread, great read
2022-03-23 10:56
Nice thread!
2022-03-23 10:59
#166
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Japan aki!
Thanks for the read
2022-03-23 11:24
cs will turn to hold an angle with an awp for 50 seconds? omg this is so much worse than 2016-17 cs
2022-03-23 11:30
1 reply
if u want to watch brazen aggro awping go watch valorant tbh
2022-03-23 13:39
#169
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Biske
nice one
2022-03-23 11:30
The awp nerf that broke kennyS needs to be reverted
2022-03-23 11:43
#174
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Germany MTD3
my awp always tops
2022-03-23 11:55
#175
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Bahrain HypnoSia
I miss Kennys vs JW times. Best two agro awp players.
2022-03-23 12:03
1 reply
+1
2022-04-19 11:27
#176
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Poland Fealis_
TL;DR Snipers are boring baiters, Jame time
2022-03-23 12:17
Good read
2022-03-23 12:20
"The lesson learned from G2 and Nikola "⁠NiKo⁠" Kovač's many grand final defeats to Natus Vincere is that s1mple (and ZywOo) cannot be countered by pure rifle firepower." The whole system crumbled when it came to playing against navi. Not having a good awper didn't have that large of an impact to their losses.
2022-03-23 12:51
very well written article personally i adore passive, surgical, "perfect" AWP play, but i can see how it might annoy others anyway, its jame time
2022-03-23 13:38
Title should be, is jame too passive?
2022-03-23 13:50
ye
2022-03-23 14:02
Dev1ce god. Changed how awp should be played. Now aggressive awpers like KennyS are now in bench or in valorant now.
2022-03-23 14:30
So survival of awps is more necessary than opening picks now. Makes sense. I wonder how aggressive awpers like s1mple and m0nesy and ZywOo at a lesser degree, are still able to remain at the top at such a consistent level.
2022-03-23 14:58
sh0r0 just bait abuser, GOATKY skill abuser.
2022-03-23 15:35
ow hltv gotta do more of this kinds of articles with those nice graphs n shit.. very nice!!!
2022-03-23 15:41
It was too OP before It's too passive now, but it's the only way to make it balanced. Make it aggro again and you'll see 3 awp meta galore
2022-03-23 16:00
seems like a nice read, I'll read it when I get back home
2022-03-23 16:30
JW most attempts let's go
2022-03-23 19:03
This article seems like one long excuse for passive boring CSGO we say these days. What we need, is a few no-scope tournaments, just to see what it brings. I am highly confident it will be more entertaining that what we see today.
2022-03-23 20:26
passive=pussy camper, non MVP titles, non top 1 on ranking, another sheep from the flock :S thats why s1mple is what it is
2022-03-23 20:55
#230
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Brazil _Awper
Something that people never consider is that we have so much better PC and Monitors right now, every new year it gets easier to hold an angle with AWP, it was just not that easy some years ago when seeing the game in fewer fps and Hz.
2022-03-24 00:53
I enjoyed reading this. I like seeing the data and I'd even like to see one level higher for some sort of correlation between AWP saves and team victories to justify the trend. I think it's cool HLTV is posting more articles like this lately on top of the usual news+interviews. Nice work!
2022-03-24 02:00
#236
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Israel selukvey
How can you make a full article about AWPers and how they started to Save the AWP alot without saying "Jame time" at least once?
2022-03-24 12:46
Seen from viewer standpoint, it's a resounding yes, they are way too passive.
2022-03-24 16:30
#240
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Peru no_pine
ah yes I miss the days of the aggressive awping from xccurate, come back to Tyloo mens plis))))))
2022-03-24 17:56
Nice article.
2022-03-24 17:57
Not a word about the fact that aggressive awping has simply been nerfed out of the game over the years because it was too ridiculously strong. Every other half-retarded forum post is of higher quality...
2022-03-25 01:07
*U mean baiterr?
2022-03-26 14:14
Pro cs too centered around awp these days Also 75hz 100 fps low res awping is completely different than current 240hz 500 fps hd awping
2022-03-26 16:45
it's awping, suppose to be passive. bolt action guns shouldn't be on the front-lines.
2022-03-26 17:15
1 reply
#273
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Brazil DaRos517
yea because CS is very realistic
2022-03-31 05:24
the AWPer has to kill a lot, if he is passive or active it doesn't matter, each one has a different style...
2022-03-27 03:51
seems that if this trend remain his validity, so we will see AWP nerf very soon
2022-03-27 11:41
Yes. Modern awper is really too passive
2022-03-27 17:15
Essentially it all goes down to one fact "The lesson learned from G2 and Nikola "⁠NiKo⁠" Kovač's many grand final defeats to Natus Vincere is that s1mple (and ZywOo) cannot be countered by pure rifle firepower", so essentially the AWP is destroying the nuance of the game, have the best awper in the server and you will probably win, that shouldnt be the case, the AWP should be nerfed heavily, it should be a weapon that gets a pick and thats it, it should be awful for multi kills, it should be made slower, harder to use and have its one hit kill zone reduced. Would love to see an event where the AWP is banned to see how much better the game would flow, s1mple and Zywoo are very good with rifles.
2022-03-27 19:50
The awp is way too pasive,when I got in a team I decided to get out because of the conflicts since I wanted to play more aggresive and hit flicks and stuff but my IGL didnt wanted to,saying that passive is always the best no matter how many entryfraggs i had(I would win like 10 fights and lose 2 every game),just like kennyS skill isnt a thing anymore on the awp :D and they benched him.But that's just my opinion(I was playing against 3000 ello).
2022-03-27 23:47
just sh0r0
2022-03-30 16:58
Survival rates over the years All AWPers AWPers in HLTV's Top 20 . . . . . Jame
2022-03-31 14:56
#278
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Denmark Kon10R
There may be a few things wrong with the question itself: 1) I don't have any exact definition of a "modern awp'er". Since when? Any particular time or date denoting the "ancient awp'er?" 2) I don't have an exact definition of "too passive". According to what "standards" or which requirements? You are NOT SERIOUSLY asking the audience (read: hltv users) about what is "right or wrong" in this game ??? 3) What is an "awp'er" anyway? Jame, Syrson, Cerg ... okay. but S1mple, Dev1ce, Zywoo ... great with the awp, yes, but aren't they just great with ANY weapon? Stewie2k, K0nfig, dupreeh, Brollan ... just to mention a few hybrids ... On top it's a matter of personal preference. I wouldn't be jumping into a stacked USP site with an awp ... it is way too heavy and slow. You have to be SMART with that weapon. "Too passive" is not the question.
2022-04-01 21:59
Why is Device's picture up there? He is not even a player.
2022-04-03 00:33
Device being mentioned when he hasn't played in 4 months
2022-04-04 19:51
yes
2022-04-05 21:21
#282
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Denmark kr4t
No? is kennys still active? wonder why
2022-04-06 22:50
What is the bottom line
2022-04-09 10:42
Buff AWP right now
2022-04-13 04:24
#288
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Brazil painali
If we take Inferno as an example, maybe the modern awper isn't going for the early peeks (banana, mid or window), but one thing I noticed in these star players is that they often peek aggressively mid-round and take advantage of the opponent's distraction. You can see Zywoo, device and s1mple giving out mid and re-taking it silently with an awp and getting away with it often with 2 or more kills.
2022-04-16 05:18
#289
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United Kingdom chexsum
just online shit
2022-04-16 16:49
awp is in a good place right now dont touch it
2022-04-19 16:00
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