Could FURIA be dark horses at Antwerp?

Five months and three LANs into their new roster's lifespan, we take a look at FURIA's chances of doing the unthinkable at the Major

Brazil has not had a truly great team since SK in 2017. Succeeding that team as Brazil and South America's best team has left FURIA with a heavy crown. They have won just three tournaments, all of them North American online cups during the pandemic, during their reign as Brazil's best.

Yet, despite rarely converting it to championships, their potential to do so has always been there. After a solid transfer window at the beginning of 2022, adding the solid André "⁠drop⁠" Abreu permanently and securing the AWPer they had missed so much in 2021 in the form of Rafael "⁠saffee⁠" Costa, FURIA once more are on the rise.

FURIA breezed past their domestic competition to qualify for PGL Major Antwerp

Performances thus far in 2022 have been more impressive than their results might show. saffee is settling, Andrei "⁠arT⁠" Piovezan has been unleashed on the rifle, and they have had enough time together that they enter the Major without the asterisk of being a 'new' lineup.

The winner of the Major is anyone's guess, meaning that opportunity is knocking for FURIA and the clump of top ten teams who all know a fairytale run is possible. So, could PGL Antwerp be the moment FURIA break their glass ceiling, and put together a deep run against the very best competition?

FURIA's emergence as a real force came in 2019, where the core of arT, Kaike "⁠KSCERATO⁠" Cerato, and Yuri "⁠yuurih⁠" Santos managed to clinch a top four finish at DreamHack Masters Dallas and a second-placed finish at ECS Season 7 Finals, defeating Era Astralis twice in the group stage. In 2020, with a reliable AWPer in Henrique "⁠HEN1⁠" Teles, they were even more impressive: dominating the North America region during the pandemic, there were real hopes FURIA could keep it up once the two regions were re-united.

FURIA caught the eye with their unique style in their break-out summer run in 2019

That, of course, did not come to pass. The sudden departure of HEN1 was a blow FURIA struggled to come back from; American sniper Paytyn "⁠junior⁠" Johnson struggled to adapt, and his removal meant arT's explosiveness was limited by his status as the team's primary AWPer. Despite a top 8 finish at PGL Stockholm, 2021 was an undeniable disappointment.

Put simply, the team had a firepower problem. Given the presence of two supportive players — Vinicius "⁠VINI⁠" Figueiredo and Lucas "⁠honda⁠" Cano (and then drop) — a trio of yuurih, KSCERATO, and arT was overly relied upon for the heavy lifting. The pressure of being a third star who needed to perform consistently did not suit arT, a player who values information higher than his own life; highs of 0.78 KPR at IEM Katowice 2021 led to the low of 0.57 KPR at PGL Stockholm.

As teams were leaning more and more towards passive AWPers, the relatively hybrid primary AWPer (with a sniper kill percentage of just 31%) arT was drowning: in 2021, he had a DPR of 0.71, while players like Dmitry "⁠sh1ro⁠" Sokolov and Helvijs "⁠broky⁠" Saukants were in the 0.50s. Worse, FURIA were one of the worst top 20 teams in 4v5 situations despite being in them so often, and their poor trading stats are another unavoidable symptom of arT's aggression.

FURIA's aggressive style does not flatter their FTU stats

This volatility meant arT and FURIA could never be anything more than an X-Factor team: They were sure to provide entertainment and the occasional upset, but they were a cut below the highest echelon of European Counter-Strike. Re-inforcements were needed, and they came in the form of saffee. A late bloomer — he was 24 when he started playing CS:GO properly in 2019 — the AWPer had starred for paiN in 2021, with an eye-catching showing in his four maps at PGL Stockholm enough to convince FURIA the potential they had seen online was real.

In an off-season where moves for Robin "⁠ropz⁠" Kool, Ilya "⁠m0NESY⁠" Osipov, Peter "⁠dupreeh⁠" Rasmussen and Emil "⁠Magisk⁠" Reif grabbed headlines the addition of saffee threatened to go under the radar. But it just made sense; a consistent AWP presence alongside the twin threat of yuurih and KSCERATO was a trio dripping with potential. And — arguably more importantly — arT would be released back to what he does best: information gathering on the rifle at whatever cost.

As the player fourth in line for FURIA, arT's inconsistency should have gone from an Achilles heel to a serious weapon; rather than as an off-meta aggressive and inconsistent AWPer, FURIA now wield arT as one of the most impactful IGLs in world Counter-Strike. Information has become the number one priority for in-game-leaders: gone are the days of Mathias "⁠MSL⁠" Lauridsen jumping through every chokepoint for Philip "⁠aizy⁠" Aistrup or Markus "⁠Kjaerbye⁠" Kjærbye to trade.

The new style of in-game-leading, pioneered by Lukas "⁠gla1ve⁠" Rossander, lets teams' captains gather information at source, preventing the game of Chinese whispers in-game-communications often becomes. On paper, it makes sense: go hunting for early information early on in defaults, and then — without having to even think about your own crosshair — use that information to call for your four remaining players. arT took this principle to a semi-logical extreme, consistently posting more than 35% opening kill attempts ever since he burst onto the tier one scene in 2019 — even while he AWPed in 2021.

Just like in 2019, 2020, and 2021, arT is once again in a league of his own when it comes to opening kill attempts in 2022

In ESL Pro League Season 15, and PGL's Americas RMR, the full effect of having a player as good as arT as your fourth-best player was seen. Posting 1.13 and 1.15 Ratings respectively — ridiculous numbers for someone this aggressive — FURIA and arT were flawless at the RMR and impressive at Pro League, picking up wins against Outsiders, Vitality, ENCE, Astralis and only losing to the best team in the world FaZe. arT's openers and information were a huge part of this, though it might be unreasonable to expect him to maintain a success rate of more than 50% in opening duels considering he is attempting more than 35% of his teams.

What is so good about this FURIA team — on paper — is that they should not need him to open rounds as often as in the past. Other than against the likes of FaZe and Natus Vincere, the trio of yuurih, KSCERATO, and a comfortable saffee should be enough firepower to convert arT's information into round wins on their own.

A less celebrated part of this team is drop, but even in the hardest spots the academy graduate has posted a genuinely respectable 1.01 Rating, 73% KAST, and 0.59 DPR in 2022. These impressive stats match with the eye test: Alex "⁠Mauisnake⁠" Ellenberg has praised drop for "making good decisions" consistently, and the academy graduate many fairly assumed was a temporary 5th has made the support role VINI held for so long his own.

The real fuel in the FURIA machine, though, is the duo of yuurih and KSCERATO. Thanks to arT's aggression, they are allowed to be purely mid and late round players, something they are incredibly efficient at doing.

Both parts of the duo are consistently above the 1.10 mark in terms of rating, 80 ADR, and below 0.6 DPR, form that is probably still underappreciated. KSCERATO's consistency is especially impressive, having posted a 1.00+ rating in 70.2% of his maps in 2022 — higher than the likes of ropz (67.3%) and Valeriy "⁠b1t⁠" Vakhovskiy (65.9%).

Though they are probably not quite as dangerous as the ruthless combinations of Denis "⁠electroNic⁠" Sharipov and b1t or ropz and Russel "⁠Twistzz⁠" Van Dulken, there are not many other rifling duos that can hold a candle to yuurih and KSCERATO. Where arT's explosiveness always leaves question marks, FURIA know they can rely on their 'yurato' duo, who are undoubtedly the two best Brazilian players of the last few years.

With the addition of saffee, who had previously shown remarkable consistency with paiN, FURIA have another question mark. To date. saffee has not quite shown the same floor he had in 2021, despite attracting praise from yuurih who told Jaxon that he "thought [FURIA] would need more time to get where we are now […] saffee is a very calm guy, good to have as a teammate"

That saffee is still adapting to FURIA's style could be a negative, but it also offers upside in the form of untapped improvement. FURIA are already a dangerous side with their 2021 trio; add the saffee of 2021 to that proposition and FURIA's potential can be unlocked. If he can add a consistent AWP to the side like HEN1 did to such great effect in 2020, we are talking about a top five team in Counter-Strike.

And, after a tricky start — 1.00 ratings in EPL and Katowice are nothing to write home about for an AWPer — his confidence seems to be picking up with him posting a 1.33 Rating and 1.57 K/D ratio at the RMR, though he did return to Earth with a 1.05 rating in the BLAST Spring Showdown.

saffee has only show glimpses of his stellar 2021 form so far in FURIA

FURIA's loss in the final of that Showdown to paiN brought an end to a 10-map winning streak. This defeat, where both saffee and arT dropped below a 0.81 Rating was a stark reminder that, despite the reasons for optimism I have already detailed in this piece, a FURIA victory at PGL Antwerp would represent a fairytale run even greater than that of Gambit at PGL Krakow or Cloud9 at ELEAGUE Boston 2018. That the defeat included a 20-22 loss on Vertigo, a map FURIA have not lost on against top 30 opposition in 2022, was especially concerning.

However,FaZe and Natus Vincere are two of many teams that ban Vertigo permanently, meaning it is one of the worst maps to have as your pocket pick anyway. In the Major, to complete that fairytale run, FURIA would be extremely fortunate to not have to defeat at least one of those two superteams.

FURIA have historically struggled against Natus Vincere, with Aleksandr "⁠s1mple⁠" Kostyliev posting a 1.33 Rating in 15 maps against the Brazilians, consistently deploying his AWP perfectly to counter FURIA's fast-paced style. They did run FaZe close in ESL Pro League, losing 16:13 and 19:16 in the semi-finals and 2:1 in the group stage, but the point remains that FURIA, despite building a well-balanced side on paper, are outmatched.

Their map pool is also a myriad of question marks: Their only win in 2022 on Inferno, the most played map in the game, against top 30 opposition was a 16-6 win against FaZe, something that seems to be an anomaly given 16-8 losses to paiN and Wisla Krakow this year. Mirage and Nuke are the two next most played maps, and FURIA have five wins and five losses apiece on them in 2022 versus top 30 teams.

It is obviously unreasonable to expect a victory at this Major for FURIA. Yet, after three years as Brazil's premier team, there is justification for cautious optimism that now is the time they can truly announce themselves on the international stage. Antwerp might come too soon for them, with saffee — who has never played in front of a crowd — still in his adaptation period, but this Major represents an opportunity that might not come around again for a while.

We are entering a period of parity — similar to before PGL Krakow 2017 — with external factors undeniably (and reasonably) weakening Natus Vincere, Cloud9, and Outsiders and creating a vacuum at the top of the scene. The ambitious projects at G2 and Vitality have spluttered. Heroic and ENCE are yet to truly prove themselves as championship contenders in front of a crowd. FaZe are number one, and clear favourites, but they do not have the fear factor of a Natus Vincere in Stockholm or prime Astralis just yet.

Last time FaZe were favourites at a Major went pretty well for the American continent...

For teams like FURIA — and everyone else, to be fair — there is no reason to not have the confidence they can cause a stir at this Major. A loss to paiN online does not counter the promise they have shown in 2022, despite denying them valuable momentum and a chance to play in front of a pseudo-home crowd in Lisbon. arT's style has mellowed; they no longer need to go outrageously off-meta to stand a chance against the best teams in the world, though they are more than capable of returning to their old tricks when necessary.

Yes, they are not a flawless team — and they have not quite shown the same potential against European opposition. Having a deep run at the Major would require a deeper map pool, overperformances from arT and saffee, and a heavy dose of fortune. But, FURIA are a team that thrives in chaos. There are not many teams you'd want to avoid more than FURIA if you were under the kind of pressure FaZe will be under in this tournament; their style can be suffocating in a way few others can emulate.

This Major only needs a few upsets to be blown wide open. And who better than FURIA to waltz through those open doors? With the stable base of drop, the terrifying presence of arT and the ridiculously consistent "yurato" rifle duo alongside the undeniable upgrade of saffee, FURIA can put Brazil back on the map at this Major. Discount them at your peril.

Latvia Helvijs 'broky' Saukants
Helvijs 'broky' Saukants
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
658
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.61
Denmark Emil 'Magisk' Reif
Emil 'Magisk' Reif
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1368
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.63
Brazil Yuri 'yuurih' Santos
Yuri 'yuurih' Santos
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.13
Maps played:
984
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.64
Denmark Markus 'Kjaerbye' Kjærbye
Markus 'Kjaerbye' Kjærbye
Age:
24
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
1519
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.66
Brazil Kaike 'KSCERATO' Cerato
Kaike 'KSCERATO' Cerato
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.15
Maps played:
892
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.58
Brazil Rafael 'saffee' Costa
Rafael 'saffee' Costa
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.22
Maps played:
366
KPR:
0.81
DPR:
0.61
Russia Denis 'electroNic' Sharipov
Denis 'electroNic' Sharipov
Age:
23
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1281
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.66
Brazil Vinicius 'VINI' Figueiredo
Vinicius 'VINI' Figueiredo
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
965
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.66
Russia Dmitry 'sh1ro' Sokolov
Dmitry 'sh1ro' Sokolov
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.23
Maps played:
849
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.53
Canada Russel 'Twistzz' Van Dulken
Russel 'Twistzz' Van Dulken
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.11
Maps played:
1338
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.62
Brazil Lucas 'honda' Cano
Lucas 'honda' Cano
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.90
Maps played:
87
KPR:
0.61
DPR:
0.68
Russia Ilya 'm0NESY' Osipov
Ilya 'm0NESY' Osipov
Age:
17
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.19
Maps played:
228
KPR:
0.79
DPR:
0.61
United States Paytyn 'junior' Johnson
Paytyn 'junior' Johnson
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
468
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.60
Denmark Philip 'aizy' Aistrup
Philip 'aizy' Aistrup
Age:
25
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
1564
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.67
United States Alex 'Mauisnake' Ellenberg
Alex 'Mauisnake' Ellenberg
Age:
28
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.90
Maps played:
100
KPR:
0.63
DPR:
0.72
Denmark Peter 'dupreeh' Rasmussen
Peter 'dupreeh' Rasmussen
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1910
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.65
Brazil André 'drop' Abreu
André 'drop' Abreu
Age:
18
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.97
Maps played:
140
KPR:
0.62
DPR:
0.62
Estonia Robin 'ropz' Kool
Robin 'ropz' Kool
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.12
Maps played:
1092
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.62
Brazil Andrei 'arT' Piovezan
Andrei 'arT' Piovezan
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
970
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.70
Ukraine Valeriy 'b1t' Vakhovskiy
Valeriy 'b1t' Vakhovskiy
Age:
19
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
422
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.63
Denmark Lukas 'gla1ve' Rossander
Lukas 'gla1ve' Rossander
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
1649
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.66
Denmark Mathias 'MSL' Lauridsen
Mathias 'MSL' Lauridsen
Age:
27
Rating 1.0:
0.92
Maps played:
1716
KPR:
0.64
DPR:
0.72
Brazil Henrique 'HEN1' Teles
Henrique 'HEN1' Teles
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
1076
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.58
Ukraine Aleksandr 's1mple' Kostyliev
Aleksandr 's1mple' Kostyliev
Age:
24
Rating 1.0:
1.25
Maps played:
1534
KPR:
0.86
DPR:
0.64
nope
2022-05-06 23:00
18 replies
no
2022-05-06 23:17
9 replies
No they are dark jaguars
2022-05-06 23:33
8 replies
Dark snakes?
2022-05-06 23:59
4 replies
the real question is: how the fuck do you write an article over 7-8 sites about something that is most definitely never going to happen?
2022-05-07 01:44
3 replies
They also did the same thing as the Farlig article where they blow the graph data out of proportion...
2022-05-07 02:33
2 replies
Could I Bang u?
2022-05-07 23:37
1 reply
Could you? Yes. Will you? Never in a million years ;)
2022-05-08 04:40
MEN)))
2022-05-06 23:59
Thanks for jinxing it HLTV
2022-05-07 00:02
#71
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Brazil MrLucas
black panther
2022-05-07 00:21
#47
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Brazil Lok72
def of dark horse more like molly rose
2022-05-06 23:47
3 replies
What's molly rose?
2022-05-07 13:09
1 reply
#233
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
idk all i got was an egirl youtube.com/watch?v=jHEftYwXrck
2022-05-14 11:27
#249
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France Guilsz_
seeing brazil with a 3rd major 5 yers after the last could be cool
2022-05-14 12:45
+1 they will fly back before playoffs
2022-05-07 00:05
comero
2022-05-14 10:30
based ruski
2022-05-14 10:35
#223
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Ukraine StaR1y
winner!
2022-05-14 10:43
KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK no. Furia will not be top 4.
2022-05-06 23:01
4 replies
#70
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Brazil Suxh1
thats so obvious, furia will be at finals
2022-05-07 00:21
2 replies
#77
ropz | 
Portugal Antnio
delusional.
2022-05-07 00:24
Furia not even gonna make it out of first couple of rounds.
2022-05-07 17:41
They struggled in 2OT on Inferno for 1-6 and perma ban D2. BO3 with other coach going 3rd Inferno could be 2-0 🤷‍♂️
2022-05-07 09:14
#3
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Ukraine Loomian
I eat potato rice
2022-05-06 23:01
3 replies
im offended
2022-05-06 23:26
1 reply
I respect your offendedness
2022-05-07 02:45
Cool
2022-05-07 17:41
#4
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Brazil davidthall
yes
2022-05-06 23:01
Big furia final 👍
2022-05-06 23:01
No, I aren't think so.
2022-05-06 23:01
#7
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Estonia myrhh
no.
2022-05-06 23:02
Maybe 🙂 maybe not 🙂
2022-05-06 23:02
yes
2022-05-06 23:02
No.
2022-05-06 23:02
They won't even make playoffs lul
2022-05-06 23:03
3 replies
lunatic
2022-05-06 23:27
BIG KEKW
2022-05-07 14:26
#166
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Brazil ImReverx
BIG KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
2022-05-07 15:59
I feel like FURIA have a chance because they are one of the only teams that I think can beat FaZe. I don’t think they can beat NaVi though.
2022-05-06 23:03
5 replies
+1 I totally agree.
2022-05-07 00:20
I always felt like Furia is that nice consistant team with different playstyle than everyone else in t1 scene and I always felt like they have the "fluke" potential to win something big, even a major. I feel like they cant make an era but they for sure can have a big event winning run. But for that they all have to peek in their performance and art would be the most important player in that case. If he for some reason had god like entry mad runs this major, they could win
2022-05-07 00:39
2 replies
Yeah, its definitely nice variety for the top tier, I think they could peak here and take some big names but we shall see!
2022-05-10 11:08
1 reply
This major is literally crazy, we can have navi g2 c9 faze ence heroic vitality adn even astralis and furia, so many teams woth great potential and all of these teams can beat any other team if they peak, so those playoffa are going to be crazy so ot would be hell of a story for furia. I think this is going to be undoubtly the hardest csgo major playoffs ever
2022-05-10 12:30
Furia dont have a chance, like all other brazilian team they get ober their head with confidence and get shut down, ends always up with them trying to prove something by becoming blondes… and statistically proven, that doesnt help either unfortunately…
2022-05-14 11:20
#13
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
they were dark horses last major w/ vp. so probably
2022-05-06 23:04
2 replies
They weren't a Dark horse in Stockholm, it was VP, NIP and Gambit
2022-05-07 08:24
1 reply
#183
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
nip & gambit? i disagree. but its a matter of opinion i had no faith in nip or gambit at stockholm
2022-05-07 22:37
In all the tournaments they say the same stupid thing and he never wins anything.
2022-05-06 23:04
Where is FaZe?
2022-05-06 23:05
No in my opinion. FURIA will be dangerous in Bo1 in Swiss format. When it reaches Champion stage with Bo3, their YOLO style is not gonna cut it. arT is gonna be a playmaker but their AWPer, saffee, is kind of meh for me. Not gonna be competitive OPing vs any good teams. At least, they are decent so it is gonna be fun.
2022-05-06 23:06
16 replies
#78
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Brazil MrLucas
I mean, they have just defeated ENCE, Vitality, Outsiders and Astralis in BO3s and a close one against Faze, if thats not being competitve against good teams idk what it is
2022-05-07 00:25
14 replies
Then they lost to paiN and failed to qualify for IEM Dallas. You basically just proved my point. In Bo1, they are great. Bo3, it's up and down.
2022-05-07 01:32
12 replies
"Not gonna be competitive OPing vs any good teams" paiN, IEM Dallas Qualifier means good teams? no you didn't prove your point, but the dude above did.
2022-05-07 01:37
7 replies
I never said paiN is a good team but they are not bad either. Top 25 team. You expect FURIA to do better vs a better team based on that result? Look at the stats from FURIA vs paiN. saffe, their AWPer, had -15 KD. The only person did worse was arT, So "not gonna be competitive OPing vs any good teams" was just spot-on. If he struggled OPing vs paiN, he is not gonna do any better vs better OPers. You don't have to agree with me. This was just my reasoning for my answer for the question from this article.
2022-05-07 01:53
6 replies
So you're saying they can't make it because of one bad result against a not so good team, disregarding all the other results that came before. Astralis lost to FURIA on ECS Season 7 but was still able to be the best team in the world on that year and the year after, too. Luminosity/SK won a major and lost the very next match to TYLOO. I could go on and on, but the point is: you're judging them entirely on this loss against paiN. Look at the bigger picture. The growing curve for FURIA is obvious. I'm not saying they'll win the major; I don't think they will, even though I'm a huge fan and watch every single game if I'm not at work at the time. I'm just saying you're looking from a very narrow perspective.
2022-05-07 05:52
4 replies
+1 smart brazilian
2022-05-07 07:28
I heard you. I don't disagree with what you said but none of it really changed my mind about how I feel regarding FURIA's chance at the Major. At the end of the day, it is MY prediction. I simply don't see a team that is inconsistent and having an average AWPer will go far at the Major.
2022-05-07 22:26
#188
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Good one mate, you framed it well!
2022-05-08 00:31
#192
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Brazil killfell
+1
2022-05-08 21:56
Ah you mean AWPing, honestly thought u meant operating or something. Everyone can have a off-game and Furia overall have looked more and more solid lately, not just with their offmeta strats but also mixing it up. Yeah they have 3 members who often aren't great firepowerwise so it will be hard to impossible to win big tournaments but I think they have a very good chance for playoffs/Top 4. It really depends on which kind of team they have to face though
2022-05-08 02:11
What? Furia is in iem dallas
2022-05-07 02:56
1 reply
I meant Blast Final, not IEM Dallas. My bad. IEM will happen after PGL so it stuck in my head.
2022-05-07 07:05
well liqui lost a bo1 to 00nation and a bo3 to pain, should they disband then? NA logic...
2022-05-07 18:15
1 reply
You and your argument are so pathetic. My opinion was for FURIA and their chance at winning Major and you randomly brought in TL and disbanding? How is that relevant to my logic? Why bringing up NA? because of my flag. Insulting someone by their region is borderline stupid.
2022-05-07 22:22
Vitality fresh, ence unstable, outsiders have lost it since months ago and astralis gets shut down by almost every team nowdays… good time to measure their skills with those teams. But do not misunderstand i love furia they are good but that hype and that skill that was presented at the beginning is over long time ago, it will never happen that they win anything big, imperial have a better chance in some months imo.
2022-05-14 11:27
#159
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United States Festive_
OPing?
2022-05-07 11:53
Possible
2022-05-06 23:06
#18
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Brazil nulo100
SUPER FURIA IS COMING
2022-05-06 23:06
#19
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Brazil setsz
yes
2022-05-06 23:06
They are the 4th favorites to win the major. 1 - Cloud9/FaZe 2 - FaZe/Cloud9 3 - NAVI 4 - FURIA
2022-05-06 23:08
10 replies
#28
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Seychelles renatorib
I would put 4 - ENCE/FURIA
2022-05-06 23:25
1 reply
I agree
2022-05-06 23:29
#49
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Brazil Lok72
hltv managed to fk imperial coach and explana furia's tatics before major lol
2022-05-06 23:48
#79
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Brazil MrLucas
1 - Navi/Faze 2 - C9/Furia/Ence
2022-05-07 00:26
1 reply
#260
OK | 
Scotland B0OMER
You just put 5 teams in top2
2022-05-14 13:51
They aren't even in the top 5 of teams to win the major.
2022-05-07 02:24
4 replies
lmao
2022-05-07 02:40
2 replies
The truth hurts I know :)
2022-05-07 02:58
1 reply
not really that's why i laughed
2022-05-07 03:17
#193
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Brazil killfell
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2022-05-08 21:58
dark horses to steal a top8 again
2022-05-06 23:08
I don't think theyre a dark horse, more of a solid champions stage team that could make top 4
2022-05-06 23:12
7 replies
+11
2022-05-06 23:21
#46
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Brazil Lok72
+1 dark horse has never been so wrongly used BNE could be
2022-05-06 23:47
3 replies
FURIA are a dark horse to WIN the event BNE are just an underdog - they're different things
2022-05-07 00:22
2 replies
#80
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Brazil MrLucas
this
2022-05-07 00:27
#87
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Brazil Lok72
nah u wrong dark horse would be the team to classify to legents through first phase, no team made that. and CPH was the last dark horse, furia was still there and made playoffs still
2022-05-07 00:38
#195
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Brazil killfell
+1
2022-05-08 21:58
+1
2022-05-14 11:29
great article
2022-05-06 23:17
#26
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Slovakia xaboff
Short answer: no Long answer: likely no
2022-05-06 23:18
1 reply
#196
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Brazil killfell
ok fan of mouz
2022-05-08 21:59
no. if they play more safe than yes
2022-05-06 23:26
#DIADEFURIA lets GO!
2022-05-06 23:26
yep gg ez for furia MAJOR WINNERS
2022-05-06 23:27
no
2022-05-06 23:27
#35
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Guatemala feerzein21
FURIA COULD EASILY WIN IF THEY DONT THROW AWAY ROUNDS THAT LEAD TO A CHOKE. ART PUT IT DOWN A %20 WITH THE SILLINESS AND ACTUALLY WIN A TROPHY! BUT YEAH THEY DO HAVE CHANCES ALL OTHER TEAMS WEAK OTHER THAN FAZE
2022-05-06 23:27
#38
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Indonesia lukerey
I mean every teams kinda figure what kind of style arT play in the game. But FURIA can easily be top 4 in this major IF both kscerato+yuurih doesn't have a day off during the major. Both these guy are a tier 1 world class rifler, so yeah, on the bright day they can beat everyone.
2022-05-06 23:34
3 replies
#45
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Brazil Lok72
the team is more dependent now of Saffe's performance we doomed
2022-05-06 23:45
2 replies
#85
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Indonesia lukerey
Well he is an awper. If he dont show up even an average performance, they're indeed doom. Imagine u have the most expensive weapon in the game and still being a liability. It's a doomed things for every team.
2022-05-07 00:33
#131
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Brazil NOTALOKKA
true saffee decides if FURIA is gonna perform good or bad i feel like he needs to step up with the AWP, still missing some shots and he's not always buying AWP, seems like he is not feeling confident, I don't know, a lot of rounds you can see him playing rifle when he could have bought an AWP.
2022-05-07 04:09
one of the favorites actually
2022-05-06 23:34
1 reply
#197
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Brazil killfell
+1
2022-05-08 22:00
no
2022-05-06 23:39
1 reply
#161
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Reunion fthata
Fvria
2022-05-07 12:45
Yes
2022-05-06 23:40
#42
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Brazil darkfroid
Ez4Furia
2022-05-06 23:43
Ence is the dark horse
2022-05-06 23:44
2 replies
#54
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Ukraine Xpicyy
+1
2022-05-06 23:59
#82
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Brazil MrLucas
Furia and Ence are in very simmilar positions
2022-05-07 00:28
#44
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Brazil Lok72
fk off with the zika where were the pro guerri banters morons of hltv
2022-05-06 23:45
#48
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Brazil ovomexido
nice art is a different breed, that doesn't mean he's better than others tho,imo it all depends on him
2022-05-06 23:48
Furia can make it to the semis. It's whoever plays the best after that.
2022-05-06 23:51
#51
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Finland Tusku
i did call furia winning this major already, so yes
2022-05-06 23:54
#52
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Brazil Lok72
they were top 8 last major, they arent in any sense dark horses also they are a black panther
2022-05-06 23:58
#53
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Ukraine Xpicyy
no. This is EU/CIS
2022-05-06 23:58
1 reply
+1
2022-05-07 00:17
#58
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Netherlands arTvamp
they will make it far for sure.
2022-05-07 00:02
#59
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Brazil danilob
great article
2022-05-07 00:03
nah. too one dimensional
2022-05-07 00:05
They might make it further than we expect, yes, but further than what we expect would be playoffs. There's no way they get to semis, let alone finals. I expect them to not be in the top 8, but we'll see.
2022-05-07 00:05
13 replies
#84
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Brazil MrLucas
"further than what we expect would be playoffs" wtf? If anything playoffs is the very least most people are expecting from them
2022-05-07 00:31
11 replies
That's because you're Brazilian. No American team is expected to get to playoffs, FURIA might be the best of the bunch, but realistically, on the global scene, even they are not in the top 10. We'll see how it goes, but I would be surprised to see FURIA make it to playoffs, though not so surprised, because I know they're good.
2022-05-07 02:48
9 replies
#122
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Brazil MrLucas
Furia literaly got to the semis last big lan tournament defeating Astralis, Ence, Outsiders and Vitality and is currently ranked 8 in hltv, so no, its not only brazilians who thinks they will make to the playoffs at least
2022-05-07 03:13
6 replies
It's true, and everyone was surprised, but the major will be even thougher. They are ranked 8th because in most events they go up against American competition, which we all know is significantly weaker. Add to that a few good finishes at international events and you quickly get a ranking that's way too high. There's no question that the teams 3 or 4 spots under FURIA are better. Find me a few comments then, saying FURIA will do well, that are not from Brazilians. And I'm not saying FURIA is bad, not at all, it's a good team, just not one of the best.
2022-05-07 10:42
5 replies
#165
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Brazil MrLucas
#9 #12 #89 #13 #17 #23 #74 #32 #35 #38 #39 #50 #51 #58 #67 #83 #91 #93 #98 #104 #117 #125 #129 #145 #148 #163 All saying they are contenders for the trophy or at least that they will go far, I believe this is more than just a few
2022-05-07 14:58
4 replies
Most of those just agree that they could go further than what we would expect. There are indeed a few ones who think FURIA have a chance, but that's a tiny minority. You're misinterpreting what people say.
2022-05-07 16:20
3 replies
#172
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Brazil MrLucas
You are never going to admit are you? All of them are either saying they think Furia are getting to playoffs or agreeing with this report that says Furia has a chance to win It all (so obviously they also think they can reach playoffs at the very least), but If even after that you still haven't changed your mind, than probsbly nothing will, all I can say is read the report again and then, look at comments I tagged
2022-05-07 17:57
2 replies
I did read then, and imo the article didn't even read like "they have a chance of winning", it read more like "they are worth taking into account as challengers", and they even said FURIA only has a chance of winning is there are some huge upsets. So you took it more positively than it was intended I think. And really most of the comments you marked said the same. But I do admit that a few among them actually did seem to believe FURIA could win. We'll see what will happen.
2022-05-07 22:09
1 reply
#184
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Brazil MrLucas
"The winner of the Major is anyone's guess, meaning that opportunity is knocking for FURIA and the clump of top ten teams who all know a fairytale run is possible. So, could PGL Antwerp be the moment FURIA break their glass ceiling, and put together a deep run against the very best competition?" "This Major only needs a few upsets to be blown wide open. And who better than FURIA to waltz through those open doors? With the stable base of drop, the terrifying presence of arT and the ridiculously consistent "yurato" rifle duo alongside the undeniable upgrade of saffee, FURIA can put Brazil back on the map at this Major. Discount them at your peril." I don't see any other way to read this other than, 'this major doesn't have an absolute favorite, so with a few upsets, an dark horse could take it all and Furia would be one of the most likely candidates for that' But anyway I guess we will have to see what happens
2022-05-07 22:40
Not in the top 10? What?
2022-05-07 06:16
1 reply
It's easier to rank well for American teams, because they have less competition.
2022-05-07 10:43
Well, I get his point. I don't see Furia making top8 honesty. Neither do my friends
2022-05-07 10:28
fury will reach the playoffs it would be surprises if it wasn't among the 8
2022-05-08 00:19
#63
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Brazil Karlogaria
I just love this team. The unique way in that they work is so delightful to see
2022-05-07 00:09
no garry no major
2022-05-07 00:10
they play better in lan rather than on line, but when the things get tough the choke is real. in case that it not happen they have a small chance to
2022-05-07 00:12
#66
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United States veelad
No. But ENCE can be.
2022-05-07 00:14
#67
ropz | 
Hungary Doybik
I think they can be but Saffee would have to step it up big time and Drop would need to stay consistent on stage which will be a big challenge.
2022-05-07 00:15
4 replies
#86
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Brazil MrLucas
prety much, big challenge but possible, what makes them a reasonable dark horse
2022-05-07 00:33
3 replies
#88
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Brazil Lok72
so they werent last time but this time with exact same team they are? xd
2022-05-07 00:39
2 replies
#92
ropz | 
Hungary Doybik
I don't care that much about the term dark horse or not I'm more interested if they can win it or not. :) And I think it's in the realms of possibility although most probably FaZe will win it. But I have faith in ArT, KSCERATO and yuurih but I'm not entirely sold on Saffee yet so that's a big question mark if he can raise to the occasion against the very best teams under huge pressure.
2022-05-07 00:47
1 reply
#94
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Brazil Lok72
last major we had two doubts, drop lookin sharp, saffe not so much, hope I'm wrong we will see if honeymoon of faze will remain in major, G2 and Vitality collapsed really hard
2022-05-07 00:54
#72
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Brazil baea808
lets goooooooooo
2022-05-07 00:21
#73
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Europe Zwenix
Its clearly a black panther not a horse, but whatever
2022-05-07 00:22
yes, they are !!!!
2022-05-07 00:23
Furia probably will reach the playoffs. IF someone beats Navi, FURIA will win the major. Karrigan will choke and the only team I think Furia cannot beat is Navi because of map pool and s1mple big brain
2022-05-07 00:23
yes
2022-05-07 00:28
Not dark horse they are favourites in my book
2022-05-07 00:30
A team expected to reach top 8 isn't a true darkhorse. Imperial is the true darkhorse.
2022-05-07 00:40
I put Furia in top3 contender for the title, but only if they manage to avoid Navi.
2022-05-07 00:42
#93
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Chile gentleeH
SUPER FURIA lets go
2022-05-07 00:50
#95
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Laos axemin
Wtf no ofc
2022-05-07 01:07
NO
2022-05-07 01:08
0-3 Legends spot pick
2022-05-07 01:11
YES
2022-05-07 01:12
no, but I'm sure they will give any top tier team a run for their money.
2022-05-07 01:34
#102
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United States Virgin Islands qtleaf
HAHAHAHAHAHA NO a
2022-05-07 01:36
somewhere in playoffs, but not major winners.
2022-05-07 01:41
yes
2022-05-07 01:49
lost pain 2-0 dark horse really? 0-3 soon
2022-05-07 02:00
Great article! DIADEFURIA
2022-05-07 02:01
#110
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Canada Zenrod
Yes, Furia will forever be dark horse and never a legitimate contender.
2022-05-07 02:08
50/50
2022-05-07 02:49
#117
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Finland AliSabid
deep run, but not champs
2022-05-07 02:54
No BR In playoffs and we Gucci, thanks
2022-05-07 02:57
Nope
2022-05-07 03:09
naah
2022-05-07 03:21
how are furia a dark horse when they are likely to hit the playoffs? ENCE is a real dark horse.
2022-05-07 03:27
2 replies
#127
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United States THEM4q4
+1
2022-05-07 03:34
#261
OK | 
Scotland B0OMER
How is a top3 team dark horse
2022-05-14 13:54
dark horse, bots.
2022-05-07 03:31
#128
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Brazil Maujubudo
Hey HLTV stop jinxing my team
2022-05-07 03:39
Top 8? Definitely. Major win? Unlikely.
2022-05-07 03:44
1 reply
Accurate prediction
2022-05-20 02:01
ihc > furia
2022-05-07 03:55
#132
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Indonesia segopecel
is this 'yurato' nickname a real thing? im asking br crowd here. or is hltv trying to be the trendsetter this time
2022-05-07 04:14
2 replies
we used to call this duo "yurato"
2022-05-07 06:48
1 reply
#140
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Indonesia segopecel
ah i see. thanks
2022-05-07 06:50
are u kidding ? they literally lost to pain lmao
2022-05-07 04:47
Go go furia
2022-05-07 05:28
#135
b1t | 
South America baruj
nop.
2022-05-07 05:50
#137
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China VioIet
Furia is a passionate team,good luck to them.
2022-05-07 05:57
#143
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Brazil MadVini
10/10 article good data representation shot out to my man NER0cs
2022-05-07 07:57
#144
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Russia yatarii
arT will ruin everything for furia like he did on the last major with his UnExPeCtEd PlAyZ
2022-05-07 08:01
Yes
2022-05-07 08:17
It's funny that every single time, when there is a bigger tournament coming up, every analyst/expert somewhat skips ENCE. They might briefly say that they are playing great and can "surprise", then they move to next team.
2022-05-07 08:47
1 reply
In fairness I wrote most of this article weeks ago lol. ENCE are a serious force and nobody is saying otherwise, they'll be mentioned more in the coming days :)
2022-05-07 12:12
#148
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Ireland reyno0o
If they can get some luck in the draw and avoid an early playoffs match against Faze or Navi, I could see them getting to the semis, maybe even the final if Faze/Navi are on the other side of the bracket. But I can't see them beating either of those two in front of a crowd
2022-05-07 08:57
potentially the winners of the major, full confidence
2022-05-07 09:47
#151
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Ukraine methazine
answer is NO
2022-05-07 10:11
didn't these guys lose to paiN?
2022-05-07 10:14
Brazil isn’t winning anything lmaooo
2022-05-07 10:20
imagine being dark horse when u top 8 team of whole world :)
2022-05-07 14:11
they are favorite
2022-05-07 17:09
could be
2022-05-07 20:52
i honestly think they are top 5 in current form, not really dark horses for me.
2022-05-07 21:11
any top 10 hltv team can win this tournament...👍🏻
2022-05-07 21:49
1 reply
Hoping it will be astralis 🤞
2022-05-14 10:18
I have huge hope that furia is gonna go further in this tournament, they have been playing a good counter strike and the pieces seem to be getting along. I'd put them above heroic and gambit at the moment and the only thing I disagree with the report is that I don't think if furia wins the major it will be more surprising than C9 or Gambit, this furia makes much more sense than those teams
2022-05-07 22:03
they seemed really good until losing to pain. didn't see it coming.
2022-05-07 22:06
#185
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Lithuania _is_best
tl;dr: no. /closed
2022-05-07 22:40
Saffee was the best awper in NA and also delivered good results against european t1. He's skilled, smart and has good teamplay in high-level, nobody can talk against it. It's clear that he is t1 material and an excellent awper... the thing is... can he really adjust to furia's exotic style or will this adjustment only affect negatively his gameplay? Ofc furia's offer was better for his career... but pain is showing great results even without him. If he can't adjust, it'll be a huuuge loss for both sides. Even underperfoming, he shows one of the most beautiful awp playstyles rn. Hope he succeeds and don't fall into t3 recycling.
2022-05-08 21:21
2 replies
+1
2022-05-08 21:58
#201
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Turkey shadjeh
1
2022-05-13 15:18
#200
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Turkey shadjeh
No doubt
2022-05-13 15:18
#202
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Russia evg1804
Well they will start with 0-1 since they will lose to Spirit so I doubt)
2022-05-14 10:12
2 replies
is spirit actually that hard to beat?
2022-05-14 10:16
1 reply
#209
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Russia evg1804
hah, no doubt everyone can beat everyone, I'm just a fan of Spirit, so didn't want to offend anyone
2022-05-14 10:22
could my dick smell good for once?
2022-05-14 10:15
Bro these articles are cool, no doubt about it, but why there can’t be an audio version where you can play it? I don’t wanna waste 15-20 minutes reading it, I want to listen to it while I’m for example playing DM, and also, I’m much more comfortable listening to English than reading it.
2022-05-14 10:16
1 reply
paste it into word and make it narrate it to you
2022-05-14 16:17
nah
2022-05-14 10:16
nope nip is be
2022-05-14 10:17
4 replies
it's unreal to be a strong tier-1 team without awper
2022-05-14 10:25
3 replies
es3tag god awper trust me))
2022-05-14 10:25
2 replies
Ok.
2022-05-14 10:26
1 reply
told u :)
2022-05-14 13:46
hltv just had to release this on the morning of matches didnt they :( Hope no curse
2022-05-14 10:27
Don't you get tired of saying the same thing in all tournaments?... 2 years ago, tournament after tournament, they repeated the same thing and never won anything.
2022-05-14 10:27
#216
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Denmark nicram64
Wow Stavn
2022-05-14 10:31
Just like Turkey in EURO20 !!!
2022-05-14 10:35
nice reuse of articles 👍
2022-05-14 10:36
No
2022-05-14 10:38
#222
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Brazil _Awper
Reposted with old comments?
2022-05-14 10:41
1 reply
#251
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Seychelles renatorib
just a bump
2022-05-14 12:50
No
2022-05-14 10:45
It’s like asking is Santa real lol
2022-05-14 10:47
2 replies
He is and he lives in Finland
2022-05-14 12:03
1 reply
Deludionsl
2022-05-14 13:15
Don't jinx it ffs.
2022-05-14 10:57
1 reply
too late
2022-05-14 16:10
Nice!
2022-05-14 10:59
Yes they can be the black sheep.
2022-05-14 11:14
#229
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Hungary szia
short answer: yes long answer: yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
2022-05-14 11:17
1 reply
Thats the spirit
2022-05-14 12:38
Black panther you mean
2022-05-14 11:19
1 reply
Black dog they mean
2022-05-14 12:01
#235
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Netherlands pvuly
I hope so this is my 3-0
2022-05-14 11:32
They could and they will
2022-05-14 11:38
no.
2022-05-14 11:42
All their wins recently in BO3s have two maps start on the CT side. This appears to be a huge advantage in the current meta. I'll wait and see before declaring they have a chance here (have not put them in pickems)
2022-05-14 11:52
Yes they could but no they won't .
2022-05-14 11:58
Never .. all 3 0 pickers are stupid
2022-05-14 12:01
didn't hltv made a similar post not too long ago
2022-05-14 12:03
3 replies
they bumped, jonathan pls ban hltv
2022-05-14 12:05
1 reply
+1
2022-05-14 12:38
It's the same article actually
2022-05-14 12:52
#246
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Ukraine methazine
short answer... no
2022-05-14 12:12
Same article again?
2022-05-14 12:50
#253
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Laos axemin
Wtf they post this shit again
2022-05-14 13:07
no 1:3 in my book
2022-05-14 13:10
No /Closed
2022-05-14 13:17
They aren't a dark horse. They are a black panther.
2022-05-14 13:27
1 reply
#262
OK | 
Scotland B0OMER
Big black c
2022-05-14 13:56
Furia probably will just end their run in the top 8.
2022-05-14 13:30
#263
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Brazil Anarchybr
Why hltv bumping old threads lol
2022-05-14 14:51
1 reply
#267
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Brazil Lok72
right? lmao
2022-05-14 16:10
xD
2022-05-14 15:18
no
2022-05-14 15:50
hahahah
2022-05-14 16:11
Get F by kids.....yeah dark horse they are.
2022-05-14 16:11
no xd
2022-05-14 16:12
#272
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Canada firtlast
more like c9 the dark horse
2022-05-14 16:28
2 replies
#273
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France cedd
how is c9 dark horse they are expected to make top 4 at least
2022-05-14 17:33
1 reply
#275
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Canada firtlast
more like... uhhh.... yeah.
2022-05-14 23:29
no.
2022-05-19 23:39
aged like fucking milk, thanks for the jinx hltv! :)
2022-05-19 23:41
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