cadiaN on facing NAVI: "They are huge favourites, they must not lose"

The Danish IGL sat down with HLTV to give insight on Heroic's run at the Major and more.

Heroic find themselves preparing for their second Major playoffs appearance on the bounce, and they will be matching up against none other than the current trophy holders, Natus Vincere.

During a special live edition of HLTV Confirmed coming straight from Antwerp, Belgium, Casper "⁠cadiaN⁠" Møller sat down with HLTV to discuss his team's chances to beat NAVI and win the Major, his recent beefs with Nikola "⁠NiKo⁠" Kovač and Lukas "⁠gla1ve⁠" Rossander, and what his team have to do to step up and reach their peak.

cadiaN has now led his squad to back-to-back Major playoffs

"I think it's a tough bracket, but also you can't play to avoid the best. If you want to be the best, you have to destroy them." When specifically asked about playing Natus Vincere, cadiaN sought to put the pressure firmly on his opponents.

"It's gonna remove some pressure, if you played Spirit or a national matchup like Flames, you would feel like you have to win… NAVI are huge huge favourites, they must not lose."

cadiaN was later asked by a member of the live audience about his recent beef with G2's star rifler NiKo.

"The retweet that he did started a mental warfare, and I'm not gonna say I'm the king or master of mental warfare, but I definitely think I'm one of the players who gains more from situations like that.

"They've been better than me for so many years and all of a sudden I'm taking a rise and beating them, they were not expecting that two years ago. I think that's hurting some people's egos, to be honest."

The IGL also answered a question regarding a rumoured altercation with gla1ve that occurred during ESL Pro League Season 15.

"For me, it's an ongoing thing with Astralis and the organisation. I dislike a lot of the things they stand for, so I have a beef with them not just specifically gla1ve, but what happened at the breakfast stays at the breakfast. You know that code, right? (laughs)."

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In closing his portion of the show, cadiaN was asked about the level Heroic have been playing at so far, and what they have to fix in order to hit their peak.

"Maybe 85%, there's still 15% to go.

"Decision making for sure, and communication. When the pressure got to us before sometimes, people would communicate less or not make plans, and now I have been saying 'let's rather make a shit plan and follow it, then we can learn from it, than not making a plan.' I can't make every plan."

Heroic continue their Major campaign against Natus Vincere on Friday at 16:30 , and will hope to earn themselves a semi-final matchup with the winners of the match between Copenhagen Flames and ENCE.

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Denmark Lukas 'gla1ve' Rossander
Lukas 'gla1ve' Rossander
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
1649
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.66
Denmark Casper 'cadiaN' Møller
Casper 'cadiaN' Møller
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
1455
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.63
Bosnia and Herzegovina Nikola 'NiKo' Kovač
Nikola 'NiKo' Kovač
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.16
Maps played:
1610
KPR:
0.80
DPR:
0.67
#1
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Poland COPIUM
Heroic are huge favorites in my book
2022-05-20 15:24
14 replies
name checks out mens
2022-05-20 15:33
cry
2022-05-20 16:04
cheatroic will win cuz they cheatink
2022-05-20 16:18
#84
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
favourites???? Its one thing to say they have a good chance to win the major but they arent favourites. probably 3rd or 4th best chance here imo Natus Vincere FaZe Heroic ENCE NIP Spirit Flames Furia
2022-05-20 16:28
9 replies
Don't get baited my bro.
2022-05-20 17:01
2 replies
#107
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
I often know things are bait and still respond. Idk why, i guess for other users scrolling to maybe read.
2022-05-20 17:13
1 reply
same
2022-05-20 17:38
ence > heroic. you'll see today.
2022-05-21 03:34
5 replies
#148
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
I mean thats not a hot take. Its pretty 50-50 i just wrote this quickly without thinking much. If i were to quickly write this down again theres half a chance i put ence above heroic.
2022-05-21 11:16
4 replies
I think ENCE > Navi thou. idk maybe due to the current global politics. but hopefully navi get my coin.
2022-05-21 11:54
3 replies
#151
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
Call me crazy but i dont think ence are gonna do as well against this crowd. This is their first big stage and sure they beat copenhagen but the crowd was on their side. I honestly think the nervs are gonna be very high in the navi game. Maybe im wrong. Personally i have no horse in this major race (I guess i have pickems but idc) c9 are out. If ence, faze, navi, or even spirit win i will be happy. I just think navi arent gonna lose in the semifinal. I can see them losing in final to spirit/faze but i feel like the semifinal is gonna be their peak
2022-05-21 12:58
2 replies
idk man im a spinx dycha maden believer. I do have navi pickems because i just followed bookmaker odds and put Navi over Faze on final. but rooting for ENCE imagine i followed thorin's picks LOL i'd end up with a bronze. atleast I have gold now.
2022-05-21 13:05
1 reply
#153
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
idk what thoorins pick are tbh. He doesnt live rent free in my head. But yeah for pickems i just went with the favourites except furia > spirit I was routing for cph, now im routing for navi. I dont even dislike ENCE they just happen to be going against my favourite teams. CPH was my favourite team when c9 left csgo. and ive always liked navi since before s1mple.
2022-05-21 13:32
#87
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Greece s0rxys
padian
2022-05-20 16:41
#2
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United States zovint
Excuses
2022-05-20 15:25
8 replies
no, just putting pressure on navi, before the game begins
2022-05-20 15:34
7 replies
Smart move ngl
2022-05-20 15:36
3 replies
A move never before seen from anyone in any sport, top3 igl for sure
2022-05-20 15:38
1 reply
Lmap
2022-05-20 15:48
didn't he say that last major too?
2022-05-20 16:50
#38
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United States zovint
Boombl is at 100% form.
2022-05-20 15:36
#95
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Poland r@ds
he's trying to put* kinda funny but navi players always have winning mindset as i saw they are focusing on their game, not crying, not screaming
2022-05-20 16:53
1 reply
their name checks out hard :D
2022-05-20 18:04
> Heroic > win a bo3 vs a top team on stage
2022-05-20 15:25
6 replies
#6
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Pakistan H4nz4l4
press X to doubt
2022-05-20 15:25
1 reply
#88
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Greece s0rxys
X
2022-05-20 16:41
Stockholm quarters?
2022-05-20 15:31
2 replies
literally beat vp with jame throwing. not that big of a win tbh.
2022-05-20 15:27
VP wasnt a top team back then maybe top 10
2022-05-20 15:27
+1
2022-05-20 15:41
#4
b1t | 
United States ycwjphao
COOL
2022-05-20 15:25
#5
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Finland Cucumber))
cadiaN really trying the pressure not get to him :D but unluko
2022-05-20 15:25
1 reply
#31
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Czech Republic Devidee
dude trying to be karrigan
2022-05-20 15:33
#7
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Portugal Leandro7777
Atleast he knows his place
2022-05-20 15:26
and they won't
2022-05-20 15:26
#9
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North America minte
"They've been better than me for so many years and all of a sudden I'm taking a rise and beating them. I think that's hurting some people's egos." ofc comediaN taking all the credit for getting carried by his teammates
2022-05-20 15:26
1 reply
because he's talking about personal altercations, read the article it's not bad.
2022-05-20 17:05
#10
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China RADNIKEY
Using a comma to connect two independent clauses 😡😡😡😡
2022-05-20 15:26
IT IS GOING TO BE A PAINFUL DAY FOR DANISH FANS! :(
2022-05-20 15:26
3 replies
#104
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United States cybonics
In snappi we trust
2022-05-20 17:05
2 replies
Ence is international team.
2022-05-20 18:27
1 reply
#124
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United States cybonics
so what it's like NA fans clinging on to Twistzz
2022-05-20 18:43
comediaN
2022-05-20 15:28
okay, just forfeit then
2022-05-20 15:28
Them mind games, I like it :)
2022-05-20 15:28
#23
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Russia lpz126
go heroic send them home
2022-05-20 15:29
comedian?
2022-05-20 15:29
is he trying to jinx navi
2022-05-20 15:30
#26
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India aR__
It can go either way, Heroic can win or lose. But I'd be satisfying to see them loose, NGL.
2022-05-20 15:30
3 replies
They can either win or lose? You sure?
2022-05-20 16:11
2 replies
#82
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India aR__
Meaning it's anyones match, Heroic can win it and Navi can too stavn just decided he wants to drop 20+ kills every game so I can see Heroic winning but Navi can win too because s1mple
2022-05-20 16:18
1 reply
I don't see Heroic realistically winning this game. Na'vi is pushing for this major but they are yet to be in their best form and still went 3-0 + they had i believe 4 days to pracc. their legends stage was aight (for their standards) Also 3 out of the 6 top performers on this event are Na'vi players #1 b1t 1.43 rating (he was on fucking fire) #4 S1mple 1.22 rating (to his standards he is underperforming this event so far) #6 Perfecto 1,22 rating as well (he is playing good cs rn) I watched 1 Heroic game against Vitality and they looked aight I'd say. On a better day they would have 2-0-d them. But tbf everyone in Vita was underperforming and Heroic was Stavn carry so idk. Stavn is #5 with 1.22 rating as well but he played 9 maps so idk might be a really fuckin' big threat we'll see. So in conclusion to this I'd say Na'vi 2-1, 2-0 maybe if Electronic and S1mple step up.
2022-05-20 18:22
I respect his mentality But i dont think this strategy will work on Navi players Not saying Navi will win necessarily either
2022-05-20 15:32
read 3 first pages on the "how to do mindgames" book
2022-05-20 15:33
Couldn't care less about the guy or his team (except for my man Xizt of course). However, they deliver great Counter-Strike and I'm a sucker for great CS. Gonna be fun to watch them play.
2022-05-20 15:40
1 reply
#112
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United States kami917
Great CS until they play an important match like this one, cadian talks about everyone else being under pressure but they literally crumble under it.
2022-05-20 17:36
man just trying to jinx + put pressure lel. Maybe itll work!
2022-05-20 15:41
5 replies
No NaVi has the strongest mentality of any team. They never crumble under pressure.
2022-05-20 15:52
4 replies
except for literally every finals that they’ve crumbled under pressure until very recently…
2022-05-20 17:27
3 replies
Yeah new NaVi
2022-05-20 18:00
2 replies
I still fully believe they won’t win this major though, something is off with electronic and the team
2022-05-20 19:38
1 reply
Only about time that elec shows up as well. Just believe
2022-05-20 19:54
#45
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Argentina atriX^
lmao, is he really trying to play the Pressure card with NAVI of all teams? A team literally known for making lower-bracket runs, that won every LAN event they attended in 2021 and were able to comeback in the second map of a grand final of a major with a 6-14 deficit? Doesn't he know the team he is used to be defeated by?
2022-05-20 15:43
9 replies
#48
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Ireland Sodaking
they have to try something lol but imo the most significant thing that has happened to Navi in the last year is the exact same thing that happened to Astralis in 2017 after years of choking in the Major they finally got over the Hump and lifted a Major then see what they went on to do over the next 2 years ..... i feel like Navi is in that same position they finally got the monkey off their back with the Major and can really have a memorable dynasty of course time will tell but i firmly believe Navi like Astralis can win the 3 in a row
2022-05-20 15:48
Yeah he forgot his place xD NaVi destroyed him in every playoffs last year. Idk where he gets this unearned confidence and balls to speak shit. This year is no different he literally came 3-2 and NaVi came 3-0. What a clown cadiaN
2022-05-20 15:51
5 replies
G2 beat heroic in playoffs tho
2022-05-20 16:02
2 replies
Yeah not all playoffs ofc, the ones NaVi faced them with.
2022-05-20 16:06
1 reply
I didn't notice "every", thought you just meant the stockholm playoffs
2022-05-20 17:12
#71
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Argentina atriX^
I'm not even saying Heroic can't beat NAVI, just that playing the pressure card is futile.
2022-05-20 16:02
1 reply
Yeah but they actually can't
2022-05-20 16:06
not so hard to win every event in 2021 where all teams were rebuilt
2022-05-20 16:00
1 reply
#70
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Argentina atriX^
Teams rebuild because they are unable to beat the best team, not the other way around. G2 made the GFs of both Cologne and the Major and they still rebuilt. That's how rostermanias work.
2022-05-20 16:02
#46
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Yugoslavia Poney
why does this guy always say something like this? 🤡
2022-05-20 15:47
4 replies
probably trying to win fans for the team crowd makes a big difference
2022-05-20 15:48
you talking about him saying Navi are the favourites or?
2022-05-20 15:54
2 replies
#64
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Yugoslavia Poney
"THEY ARE HUGE FAVOURITES, THEY MUST NOT LOSE" yes
2022-05-20 15:58
1 reply
that's not something clownish, maybe trying to put some more pressure, or at least not being cocky this time so he will not look like a complete clown after the potenital loss
2022-05-20 16:00
i wanna know what happend at the breakfast :D
2022-05-20 15:47
boombl4 will eat comediaN for breakfast tomorrow :o Cheatroic going down
2022-05-20 15:49
SO SMART HE NOT JINX IT , AND GONNA CLAP THEM
2022-05-20 15:50
This is the stuff that he does every time before a really important match, he's coping and trying to label his team as the underdog. Bro, you've stayed in the top 10 for over a year now. Quit with the "i tHiNk WeRe gETtiNg uNdEr ThEiR sKiN"
2022-05-20 15:52
#59
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Sweden cptbobsy
What is this pussy ass talk, say that ur gonna beat them EZ instead!
2022-05-20 15:53
1 reply
avoiding huge backfire after the potential loss, kinda smart
2022-05-20 15:55
#62
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Switzerland Lacerta
I hope Heroic take it
2022-05-20 15:55
4 replies
Said literally no one except you
2022-05-20 16:43
3 replies
I hope heroic take it. Unlucky bozo
2022-05-20 16:49
#105
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United States cybonics
I hope Heroic take it
2022-05-20 17:08
I hope too
2022-05-20 18:29
Lol, they are still better comediaN, one bo1 doesn't mean you dominated your opponent, especially when you were sitting in your team's backpack the whole time
2022-05-20 15:59
i hope navi destroys them completely
2022-05-20 16:08
6 replies
+1 I’ve had enough of these cocky overrated Danes
2022-05-20 16:43
5 replies
#96
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Denmark Kon10R
Hmmm ... Top15 for 1.5 years ... Not "over- or underrated", just ACTUAL rating. If you've had enough, you better go and watch golf or something: They will stay up there for some time yet.
2022-05-20 16:52
1 reply
Buncha nobodies + stavn. They’re about to get smacked by NAVI. Enjoy!
2022-05-20 19:34
got enough of cadian / teses / stavn cheating scum the sad thing is they are all good players but if these three cheaters ever win a major i lose all faith in csgo
2022-05-20 17:04
2 replies
How they cheat?
2022-05-20 19:06
Completely agree
2022-05-20 19:34
Stavn be like shitt my back has already been hurting .... I gotta try carry this bigmouth botcadian again
2022-05-20 16:16
What is it Astralis stands for that he dislikes so much?
2022-05-20 16:31
5 replies
Can’t be cheating because both Astralis and heroic are cheaters. Astralis with smoke bug and heroic with coach bug
2022-05-20 16:43
4 replies
Ok.... so what is it then?
2022-05-20 16:52
#99
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Denmark Kon10R
Criminal mind: Accusing others of the crimes he is committing himself. 😁 You just revealed to the world what YOUR problem is.
2022-05-20 16:55
2 replies
Projecting, VAC soon. Keep cheering for cheating scum. Nobody respects danish CS anymore
2022-05-20 19:34
1 reply
#144
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Denmark Kon10R
"Nobody" ... Mid teens? Afraid of not being on the "right side"? 😁 13 of 40 players in the playoffs were Danish. Compared to NA players at the moment ... hmmm ... 🤭 But that's another story. I think you have some sort of "Hollywood type court case going on for months" in your mind: We never saw any unlikely qualifications or match wins for that matter due to these bugs. We never saw "millions of dollars landing in the wrong pockets" because of the alledged "cheating". In other words: We're NOT talking about a "scandal of the century" order of magnitude. It's all inside your head. I strongly recommend you move on and enjoy some damn good cs! 😎👍 NaVi was in trouble against Heroic, but they proved to be the stronger side in the end. Sit back, relax and enjoy!
2022-05-21 01:06
if you put smth between quotation marks you should write exactly what they said
2022-05-20 16:45
gigachad
2022-05-20 16:53
it´s starting to get annoying how cadiaN is trying so hard to put pressure on other teams à la football coach.
2022-05-20 16:57
2 replies
#108
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United States big_brain
Fake flagger
2022-05-20 17:17
1 reply
Yup. What are you going to do about it?
2022-05-20 18:07
calls enemy favourites, screams like crazy ass kid after 1st won round lul
2022-05-20 17:30
Padian.
2022-05-20 17:32
#114
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Finland Teukkasd
have fun losing 2-0
2022-05-20 17:39
Trying to anti-jinxing xD Good Luck
2022-05-20 18:14
Isn't it hilarious how comediaN's desperately trying to relocate the pressure? NaVi mustn't lose? Neither Heroic, they're not an underdog anymore.
2022-05-20 18:23
#121
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North America BoDaddy
I hate this guy. Such an over emotional clown
2022-05-20 18:26
1 reply
Why? You hate a guy just becusse he is emotional?
2022-05-20 19:07
Padian
2022-05-20 20:14
3 replies
can you explain the padian meme please
2022-05-20 22:43
2 replies
I dont know its just funny. Padian.
2022-05-20 22:49
1 reply
based?
2022-05-21 03:15
comedian kekw
2022-05-20 21:31
Heroic next map de_airport
2022-05-20 22:54
#137
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Bulgaria Skillet_
Cadian such a comedian
2022-05-20 22:56
they didn't
2022-05-20 23:12
all you beat was the road for nothing
2022-05-20 23:13
gl next time
2022-05-20 23:33
nice prediction
2022-05-20 23:40
#142
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CIS lua_
comediaN LMAO
2022-05-20 23:50
bro said this because he knew they were most probably gonna lose lmfaooo 💀💀💀💀💀💀
2022-05-21 00:28
5 replies
no shit, do you know what favourites to win means
2022-05-21 01:08
4 replies
But it's bad mentality to expect opponent win
2022-05-21 12:06
3 replies
thats the dumbest shit ever he just acknowledged that navi are heavy favourites in the odds, and its their game to lose. heroic were the underdog
2022-05-21 15:42
2 replies
"bro said this because he knew they were most probably gonna lose"
2022-05-21 15:46
1 reply
#145 ???
2022-05-21 15:47
"THEY ARE HUGE FAVOURITES, THEY MUST NOT LOSE" …and they didnt! GG
2022-05-21 13:44
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