Liquid bench shox and adreN

Liquid announced its coach and French rifler are stepping down for the North American team to explore other options for the future.

Liquid has announced that changes are coming with the removal of two members from the active roster. HLTV learned that the team wanted to go in a different direction in the coaching department, which ended up in the benching of Eric "⁠adreN⁠" Hoag, while veteran Richard "⁠shox⁠" Papillon stepped down and is currently also on the bench while he sorts his next move.

The Frenchman will no longer don the Liquid jersey

The changes come after a poor start of the year for Liquid, whose best result in 2022 has been a 5-8th place finishes at ESL Pro League Season 15. Other than that, the North American squad failed to make it out of BLAST Premier Spring Groups, after which they were then knocked out in the Showdown, and also fell in the group stages at IEM Katowice, PGL Major Antwerp and IEM Dallas.

On an individual level, shox wasn't able to show his best form on the biggest stages in his six-month tenure with the North American team, posting a 0.94 average rating, although he put up strong numbers against lesser opposition in the NA RMR and its open qualifier.

For adreN, this marks the end of his second stint as Liquid's coach, a position which he retook in May 2021 after departing the squad in late 2020. This time around he wasn't able to reach the same heights as he did when he stood behind the squad that won the Intel Grand Slam in 2019, and leaves without any new trophies to his name.

The announcement of changes comes just days before the IEM Cologne roster lock, which will put pressure on Liquid to find a fifth player for the last Big Event of the season ahead of the player break.

Liquid is now:

United States Jonathan "⁠EliGE⁠" Jablonowski
United States Josh "⁠oSee⁠" Ohm
United States Nick "⁠nitr0⁠" Cannella
Canada Keith "⁠NAF⁠" Markovic

United States Eric "⁠adreN⁠" Hoag (benched)
France Richard "⁠shox⁠" Papillon (benched)

United States Josh 'oSee' Ohm
Josh 'oSee' Ohm
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.11
Maps played:
1090
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.62
United States Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1601
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.68
United States Nick 'nitr0' Cannella
Nick 'nitr0' Cannella
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
1388
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.66
Canada Keith 'NAF' Markovic
Keith 'NAF' Markovic
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1562
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.63
France Richard 'shox' Papillon
Richard 'shox' Papillon
Age:
30
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
2018
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.66
United States Eric 'adreN' Hoag
Eric 'adreN' Hoag
Age:
32
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
697
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.65
DO NOT JOIN LIQUID YEKINDAR
2022-06-19 21:27
48 replies
yekindar ez
2022-06-19 21:28
16 replies
Nope. +s1mple +HiKo as coach. Easy major.
2022-06-19 21:35
13 replies
Cute duo
2022-06-19 21:42
4 replies
Ur cute
2022-06-19 22:22
3 replies
lmaoooo
2022-06-19 22:41
2 replies
everyone see this coming
2022-06-20 12:46
1 reply
#416
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United States DarkFX
Hmm, wonder who they are picking up?
2022-06-20 18:32
Liquid even with The GOAT will win a major. oSee is good, NAF is good, EliGE id good and nitr0 is good, but that is it. They are just good. Which isn't good enough for a major.
2022-06-19 21:49
3 replies
#376
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Belgium JoGodTs
nITR0 GOOD LMAO
2022-06-20 11:44
2 replies
Nitro used to be insane rifler talent then he somehow threw it all away on other roles.
2022-06-20 12:18
1 reply
#409
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Belgium JoGodTs
+1 used to be
2022-06-20 16:42
they did that already, not gonna work
2022-06-19 22:49
3 replies
hooray now we have internet in Spain!
2022-06-20 00:06
1 reply
can confirm
2022-06-20 00:14
they did that and reached 1 major semifinals and 1 major finals Obviously, s1mple is not gonna join Eligequid
2022-06-20 00:16
liquid +Bubzkji
2022-06-19 22:31
1 reply
#417
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United States DarkFX
+Bubzki or +Yekindar or +JKS ????
2022-06-20 18:33
he will
2022-06-19 21:28
#40
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Italy alastt27
he won't, liquid too bad
2022-06-19 21:29
17 replies
#118
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Europe Dimghe
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ big bag
2022-06-19 21:42
1 reply
#418
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United States DarkFX
Liquid have the big $$$$
2022-06-20 18:33
#119
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North America minte
Where else would he go?
2022-06-19 21:43
13 replies
#187
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Italy alastt27
g2 will surely kick someone after this, also navi
2022-06-19 22:06
12 replies
Not after sdy’s showing at blast
2022-06-19 22:15
11 replies
#218
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Italy alastt27
he wasn't insanely good, just 1.02 rating, they have better options, and after all I don't think elec will perform this well in the future as an igl
2022-06-19 22:21
10 replies
Didn't need to be insanely good, how can you expect anyone to be good with bit electronic and simple on a team. This will be NAVIs roster moving forward.
2022-06-19 22:23
6 replies
+1 idk what he's talking
2022-06-19 23:00
#358
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Finland ThaMuse
Look at what people expect from Aleksib with Niko, Hunter and Monesy on his team. Doesn't matter to delusional people.
2022-06-20 08:20
4 replies
Lull. Typical delusional Finnish guy. People expect Aleksib to at least hit a shot which he apparently can't. Yes, he performed good last event but look before that.
2022-06-20 11:43
1 reply
#427
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Finland ThaMuse
I didn't say anything delusional there, do you know the meaning of the word?
2022-06-20 19:57
#419
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United States DarkFX
Exactly, Jackz and Alexisb are not supposed to be top fragging lol and if they are that means G2 has serious problems as we saw against Vitality. If they are not winning its because of Niko, Hunter, and Monesy. Look at all 3 of their stats against Vitality, horrendous.
2022-06-20 18:36
1 reply
#426
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Finland ThaMuse
I know man, it's been rough. I'll give it until the end of the year before I give up
2022-06-20 19:57
Boombot had like 0.9 rating, so SDY is huge upgrade
2022-06-19 22:56
1 reply
So clear during gameplay how much of a firepower upgrade sdy is compared too boom. And elec can actually play and call instead of running in and dying for info like boom most times.
2022-06-20 00:48
#293
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Canada Arsi_yolo
Man please just shhhhh
2022-06-20 00:41
no one joins liquid because they're good only because they have good checks
2022-06-20 00:45
would be such a huge waste of his talent
2022-06-19 21:53
Elige was praising him in that blast video kinda randomly ...
2022-06-19 21:53
#162
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Finland krep
Please join Liquid so NAVI can buy you without paying a Russian org
2022-06-19 21:57
#168
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Other Zollbit
+1 oml
2022-06-19 22:00
COME TO LIQUID
2022-06-19 22:07
#212
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Yugoslavia Acceb
WHO WOULD HAVE EVER SAW THIS COMING!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????????????????? Fucking idiot liquid pay me ill get a free paycheck for a few months and make better decisions
2022-06-19 22:20
+1
2022-06-19 22:21
#238
l | 
Germany _car
+1 don't do it
2022-06-19 22:38
wOULD BE A TRAGEDY :(
2022-06-20 09:56
he actually did now lmao
2022-06-22 19:10
2 replies
As a standin yes. I am talking permanently.
2022-06-22 19:11
1 reply
ah ok, but it is partially correct then
2022-06-22 19:42
+yekindar +malek
2022-06-19 21:27
20 replies
#67
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United States Waagz
+1
2022-06-19 21:32
#99
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Czech Republic forseti12
malek probably has PTSD from his previous na experience, but would be good for liquid
2022-06-19 21:39
14 replies
#166
NAF | 
Asia aref81
Ptsd lmfao
2022-06-19 21:59
1 reply
#412
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Estonia Erkster
okay seems like admin has weak meme game, deleted ( youtube.com/watch?v=_GftVsimrpo)
2022-06-20 17:14
+1 He had to deal with stewie2k abd I bet he doesn't want to deal with elige as well
2022-06-19 22:02
8 replies
#206
NAF | 
United States Krivix
elige i feel like would at least want to go with maleks srats and ideas,unlike stewie who just gave him the middle finger and said no
2022-06-19 22:16
5 replies
Elige is just as bad. If one strat from Malek fails he'll go princess mode and tilt and then not talk. Stewie is an ego jock, while elige is a drama princess. Both are equally bad.
2022-06-19 23:25
1 reply
Princess Mode lul, actually perfect word for Elige, and stew and actually almost 70% for NA players
2022-06-20 06:06
I feel like Elige has an even bigger ego than Stewie.
2022-06-20 08:02
2 replies
#396
NAF | 
United States Krivix
elige has gotten better likely cause theyre under nitr0 now,with fallen and stew there was too much conflict between strats and whos igling
2022-06-20 15:00
1 reply
They already said that Stewie wasn't the one having problems with fallen igling it was "other players" most likely elige that weren't happy with fallens calls that probably why he got replaced by nitro (elige's friend). Dont get me wrong elige is really skilled but he has a huge ego behind closed doors.
2022-06-21 05:43
+1 kkkkk
2022-06-19 22:20
Elige recognized and fixed his issues. That's long ago tbh. Stewie on the other hand.
2022-06-20 11:09
#214
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Europe Rokiz
he has ptsd of stewie not NA ;DDD
2022-06-19 22:20
2 replies
Apparently auti and EG staff weren't much better
2022-06-20 00:09
as #264 said elige is a princess so equally bad and tbh one bad experience in NA is enough to scare anybody from joining
2022-06-20 00:53
#108
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
+1
2022-06-19 21:41
#184
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United States Doug1498
Nah it will be yekindar and zews
2022-06-19 22:05
#193
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United States darshy
Please be real COPIUM
2022-06-19 22:08
+11111111111111111111 , Malek fits well in LULquid
2022-06-19 22:32
Ez + YEKINDAR
2022-06-19 21:28
#4
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Belgium UniverseBot
again, why did adren even join again
2022-06-19 21:28
9 replies
Money
2022-06-19 21:30
1 reply
Don't blame him either, man's a dad now.
2022-06-20 00:22
#93
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Denmark baitpolice
friends with elige = free job at liquid
2022-06-19 21:36
6 replies
+1
2022-06-19 21:49
yee, same shit with YnK when NiKo was in FaZe
2022-06-19 22:00
4 replies
+1 ynk, coldzera and even broky (today he's a top player but at the time he was a nobody) only joined faze because niko wanted. guardian and karrigan only left because niko wanted
2022-06-20 00:47
2 replies
> broky > top player XDDDDD pick one......
2022-06-20 15:44
1 reply
#414
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Ukraine cur1osity
I mean.. he plays for #1 team and won a major
2022-06-20 17:32
at least yanko tried, adren was just there to stand around and smile
2022-06-20 20:23
#5
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Czech Republic (J)elita
OH
2022-06-19 21:27
#6
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Finland Nollegee
Wat? Edit. I read it -shox +adren
2022-06-19 21:30
4 replies
lol
2022-06-19 22:01
actual improvement
2022-06-19 22:32
1 reply
#254
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Finland Nollegee
xaxaxa
2022-06-19 23:01
#365
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Japan Dracielia
HLTV user finally learns to read before commenting
2022-06-20 09:59
yeki don't ruin your career
2022-06-19 21:27
15 replies
its basicly liquid or nothing for him. g2 and liquid were intrested but now its only liquid according to rumors. if i was yeki i would go to liquid instead of sitting on the bench
2022-06-19 21:29
3 replies
if he wants a big fat paycheck then na is the way to go, if he wants championships then he should run away from there
2022-06-19 21:30
2 replies
well if he doesnt go to liquid he would probably need to wait until rio major. doubt any top 10 teams will make any changes until then
2022-06-19 21:31
liquid is not shit as col or eg. even with shox they could beat top 10 teams. maybe a top player is all they need to be competitive again.
2022-06-20 02:26
As Overdrive says, those players who join NA team are either about to retire or they join to steal paychecks.
2022-06-19 21:31
10 replies
#76
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Norway HologramM
make sense, but anyway, better than nothing
2022-06-19 21:34
He's young, plenty of time to come back to EU
2022-06-19 21:53
1 reply
Yeah s1mple did that and look where he is right now, Yekindar will be fine in Liquid, maybe he can even take them to the top of NA again, who knows
2022-06-19 22:01
PadiaN played in some NA org (Rogue?), went back to EU and continues succesful career
2022-06-19 21:56
3 replies
So he was stealing paychecks? Correct me if i am wrong but Rogue always sucked huge dicks when they played at NA EPL and it was the time when NA region was competitive. On the other hand i remember allu and friberg played in some full eu team but somehow used to compete in NA and they were farming na bots.
2022-06-19 22:24
2 replies
You must be thinking about Optic
2022-06-19 22:32
Exactly, just stated that you can come and farm big money for a period - and then come back and restore your competitive career, you may profit from NA without destroying your pro career
2022-06-19 23:09
Simple went to na too. I heard it destroy his career... Ppl think liquid turn grim into a bad player. Twistz become so bad after liquid experience. We never mention his name again.
2022-06-20 13:43
2 replies
NA was much better back then, he was clearly talking about joining na team in 2022, where NA has only 3 relevant orgs left (C9 doesnt count cuz cis roster) and they're comparable to Ghost or EUnited, well, current EG maybe even worse and those teams that i've mentioned
2022-06-20 14:56
1 reply
True. the na state is horrible. COL and liquid are equivalent of t2 teams and the rest is t3/t4.
2022-06-20 15:31
xD na cs
2022-06-19 21:27
lul
2022-06-19 21:27
#10
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Netherlands PawnyCS
jks
2022-06-19 21:27
1 reply
#224
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United States Solaries
+1 - jks could bring it all together
2022-06-19 22:25
+stewie2k +malek
2022-06-19 21:31
10 replies
#36
swag | 
Pakistan Zoincc
HAHAHAHAHAH +STEWIE PLZ LIQUID
2022-06-19 21:29
3 replies
if +rat2k then -nitr0 will happen
2022-06-20 00:19
2 replies
nitr0 bot anyway
2022-06-20 03:40
Will not happen I am absolutely certain of this. He was the main reason 2019 TL fell apart.
2022-06-20 11:20
time to retire to valurant for stew
2022-06-19 21:53
1 reply
His choices are few, bad rumours travel fast. Established players will almost all ask to not play with him. This won't change until he crawls out of his cave of denial.
2022-06-20 11:23
= starbucks
2022-06-19 22:21
1 reply
What xD
2022-06-19 23:57
lul , paycheck2k
2022-06-19 22:33
1 reply
wait till stewart2k hears about this
2022-06-20 03:40
Sadly a good choice :((
2022-06-19 21:28
20 replies
#43
swag | 
Pakistan Zoincc
+1 Shox had his time, his time is now over
2022-06-19 21:29
19 replies
Yeah I have to agree, his time at the top of CS is over
2022-06-19 21:32
1 reply
#71
swag | 
Pakistan Zoincc
Sad but true Same with others like xyp9x
2022-06-19 21:33
shox is not the problem he was the only one working in the team watching demos or wanted to pracc, he was the one who made calls in game Nitro was useless
2022-06-19 21:44
16 replies
flag checks out and i never said nitr0 was good.. he left for valorant and returned super bad but u cannot deny shox being washed
2022-06-19 21:47
9 replies
Btw Poor understanding of the game ! Shox was not given his positions and freedom ingame and he was average while nitro came back from valo and did good enough to stay on t1 cs! Shox and liquid need to split for their own good...
2022-06-19 21:52
3 replies
I guess I didn't consider this, but surely even with the right positions and freedom Shox's time is up? he was lacklustre at vitality (leading to him being replaced) and he looks out of it.
2022-06-19 22:36
2 replies
He definitely reached his peaked quite some time ago, but I believe that in a proper team instead of the shithole that NA cs is rn, he could very much be t1 competetive. I'm kinda hoping for a kenny shox lineup though thatll probably not happen
2022-06-25 16:11
1 reply
agreed
2022-06-25 21:22
correct me if i'm wrong but shox was brought in to replace naf, but naf decided to stay in the last minute so shox had to play weird roles
2022-06-19 21:55
4 replies
Yeah, apparently naf was about to join EG but when he saw stewie, he ran like a hell.
2022-06-19 22:20
3 replies
I thought NAF quite liked Stewie no?
2022-06-19 22:36
2 replies
Pretty much everyone that was on Liquid in the past 2ish years has had issues with Stew afaik, apart from maybe Elige.
2022-06-20 16:11
1 reply
Oh damn really? I've heard Stewie doesn't mind it tho, like he wants people to shit talk cuz it helps. But i guess these issues could be smth else.
2022-06-20 17:17
Liquid have a lot of problems and shox was one of the biggest. He was the lowest rated player on liquid during his time. Yes even lower than Nitro. It's not all his fault. They had a coach that was gone half the time. It's understandable why but adren was missing so much with the team he should of been gone a long time ago. All you have to do is watch one shox interview and know the 4 other players on liquid are going to have a hard to understanding him. I don't blame shox at all for coming to liquid. I blame liquid for signing him. This isnt a hindsight is 20/20 moment. Everyone knew this wouldn't work
2022-06-19 22:04
30 hours in 2 weeks kek nice dedication
2022-06-20 00:09
1 reply
you can watch demo with better tools than csgotv we are not stuck in 2013 bro
2022-06-20 01:56
Yo le noob, Ofc that’s what he told 1pv, but he clearly looked bored and never hyping himself up so I would take with a grain of salt what he said, il est en bout de course, pas une équipe t1 veut de lui, il le sait et essaye de justifier les mauvaises perfs individuelles et collectives…
2022-06-20 19:30
2 replies
It's possible and how do you want to hype yourself when your team is more dead than a fucking graveyard we all know that NA cs is dead and he wanted to try it, it didn't worked hope he will find a good team to get back as a good player like in HEET or Falcons ,maybe create a team with young french players with amanek or make a french last danse with apex shox kennys nbk and misutaaa (if vita players get kicked)
2022-06-20 19:35
1 reply
I really hope he does but im very pessimistic, the lileliest option is sadly that he retires after a few months on Liquid’s bench. I really don’t see him tryharding amateur esea leagues, if he was still hungry he wouldn’t have joined Liquid in the first place.
2022-06-20 19:41
#13
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Spain capta1n
lol what? Why bench Adren?
2022-06-19 21:28
2 replies
Surprised it wasn't sooner. 2021 the team was full relationship rosters, igl shuffle and multiple reports of "we lack a coherent team vision". All of those are issues that a coach should address, while he did nothing. Biggest paycheck stealer of the scene IMO.
2022-06-19 21:38
1 reply
i wouldn't call him a paycheck thief, but rather friends doing exactly what you said
2022-06-20 01:02
#14
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Azerbaijan werezzz
shox back to vitality
2022-06-19 21:28
RIP BOZO, +malek/daps and yekindar
2022-06-19 21:28
6 replies
No daps pls, if you get yeki at least get an eu coach
2022-06-19 22:00
5 replies
why not daps as a coach?
2022-06-19 22:33
4 replies
Cos eu strats mens)) NA aim + EU brains = second NA major winner
2022-06-19 23:11
3 replies
#314
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United States amba01
daps is from a time when na was good
2022-06-20 02:12
2 replies
Yeh, same times when shox was good... Oh wait
2022-06-20 03:35
1 reply
called it
2022-06-20 21:18
why adreN :(
2022-06-19 21:28
3 replies
cuz he sucks as a coach and the only words he knows how to say during a match is "nice" or "good job/shit"
2022-06-19 21:47
2 replies
if you actually listen to what adren says when you can you can tell he's a smart guy, tactically minded, but liquid have always needed either a coach who can be both tactically gifted and a leader of men or to have someone like pasha be an assistant coach for inspiration
2022-06-19 23:03
1 reply
Yo le noob, Maybe he has some tactical depth but he is Elige s yes man so it’s rarely gonna come in handy.
2022-06-20 19:32
#17
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Portugal kurpyyy
+JKS
2022-06-19 21:28
5 replies
+1
2022-06-20 00:16
this is a meme already
2022-06-20 00:48
#315
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Brazil Anarchybr
He definitely deserves it by NAF is lurker already, role-wise they need an entry
2022-06-20 02:14
2 replies
But jks & NAF were in Renegades
2022-06-21 00:52
1 reply
#438
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Brazil Anarchybr
But NAF changed
2022-06-21 05:16
#18
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North America minte
GET US A GOOD COACH!!!
2022-06-19 21:28
#20
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Brazil AWFenrir
Expected
2022-06-19 21:28
#22
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Turkey m1xed123
+yekindar
2022-06-19 21:28
#23
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France Diodele
-ex3rcice +shox HEET
2022-06-19 21:28
4 replies
#45
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Poland Patio1950
and ex3rcice where, he isnt that bad
2022-06-19 21:30
3 replies
Ex3rcice go exercise at gym
2022-06-19 21:36
2 replies
+1
2022-06-19 21:50
makes sense
2022-06-19 21:51
hmmm
2022-06-19 21:28
#25
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Turkey edsvi
+me
2022-06-19 21:28
3 replies
#32
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Turkey edsvi
changed my opinion. Not gonna play for this shit team
2022-06-19 21:28
2 replies
As if they’d want you
2022-06-19 21:50
Imagine being cocky and have ef flair.
2022-06-20 13:48
expected
2022-06-19 21:28
#28
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Other vibrex
This is so surprising. Lol
2022-06-19 21:28
#30
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Brazil hugoooo
adreN??? Again??
2022-06-19 21:28
we must ask ourselfs that where was Paul Pogba in all of this?
2022-06-19 21:28
+AdreN -AdreN please TL dont get AdreN again. Anyway +Malek ??
2022-06-19 21:28
1 reply
#211
NAF | 
United States Krivix
malek would be a good pickup for liquid
2022-06-19 22:19
+yekindar
2022-06-19 21:28
#37
sdy | 
Ukraine drxxmxr
Yekindar??
2022-06-19 21:29
#38
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Poland Patio1950
Snax or Yekindar or Malek?
2022-06-19 21:29
#39
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India nalinboi01
Bring zews as a coach if possible
2022-06-19 21:29
6 replies
zews has heart problems, i think he is done with being a coach sadly :(
2022-06-19 21:35
4 replies
That's a strange flair, i'm very interested in why you have it
2022-06-19 22:07
3 replies
they got 0-16ed by fnx team once but i liked the flair thats it
2022-06-19 22:56
2 replies
Yeah that's what i saw lmao, but cool I thought it was a revamped copenhagen flames logo
2022-06-20 02:11
#347
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Mongolia dennek
literally cph logo
2022-06-20 07:48
after eg and heart problems i think no way he comes back
2022-06-19 21:52
#41
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Ukraine VoidWave
lol but expected
2022-06-19 21:29
+juho
2022-06-19 21:29
#46
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Sweden Juuzou_
Unexpected
2022-06-19 21:30
#47
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CIS edgepy
+yekindar lets go
2022-06-19 21:30
#48
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Poland sylwek1021
Snax coming
2022-06-19 21:30
sad but expected +yekindar
2022-06-19 21:30
#50
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Finland FlNLAND
poggies
2022-06-19 21:30
#51
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Ukraine FGVM
shortest HLTV article?
2022-06-19 21:30
1 reply
May be admins are busy posting navi winning,s1mple stats and mvp, electronic stats in facebook,twitter and instagram
2022-06-19 21:37
+ valde?
2022-06-19 21:30
benching your coach? lmfao
2022-06-19 21:30
#56
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Germany mysterE
+jks/floppy/valde +maLeK
2022-06-19 21:31
liquid is dead
2022-06-19 21:31
no major for shox probably :(
2022-06-19 21:31
F
2022-06-19 21:31
He loot a salary. Plan is done :)
2022-06-19 21:31
#61
DaDte | 
Russia bult0
rip mareks
2022-06-19 21:31
finnaly
2022-06-19 21:31
even yekindar won't fix this dumpster fire of a roster you need someone to help elige stop malding
2022-06-19 21:32
2 replies
didnt know you knew the players personally
2022-06-19 21:39
Enlige recognized and fixed his shit years ago
2022-06-20 11:25
+maleK +yekindar
2022-06-19 21:32
Finally. Yekindar read #1. Don't join Liquid no matter what
2022-06-19 21:33
+jks
2022-06-19 21:33
1 reply
yes would be insane actually
2022-06-19 21:34
+snax hehehehehe
2022-06-19 21:33
+marke + new coach (malek maybe? idk) ez fix
2022-06-19 21:34
1 reply
i think malek is traumatized with NA and elige has the reputation of being like elige maybe liquid giant paychecks can change his opinion thou
2022-06-20 00:50
#77
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Pakistan LoOuU2
take a shot every time Adren comes and goes from Liquid in all seriousness , these are good changes. Never really see Adren being a coach who brings some input during a game , more like analysis things he does off the server , they need an actual entity behind them during the game. Shox change was long-time coming. Just didnt work with Liquid and tbh , his days might be numbered. Now Liquid get Yekindar and some competent enough coach while Elige can contribute to IGL with Nitro , Liquid can be back to glory days. But they really do need some actual good fragger as fifth
2022-06-19 21:35
#78
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Finland AliSabid
daaaamn shox was expected, but not adren
2022-06-19 21:35
nitro is next will be benched
2022-06-19 21:35
1 reply
I don't think nitr0 is gonna get benched anytime soon. Guy is so damn important
2022-06-20 02:15
#83
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Russia igotbanned
Plz no yekindar Navi yekindar ftw
2022-06-19 21:35
#84
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Poland coniasty
rip
2022-06-19 21:35
God pls no Marek
2022-06-19 21:36
#86
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Ukraine d3adLY
so +yekindar, sad for him
2022-06-19 21:36
#88
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Spain Enjoi_
SHOX DID NOT DESERVE THAT, naffers
2022-06-19 21:36
+jks +malek
2022-06-19 21:36
What did adren do? Na coach=cheerleader.
2022-06-19 21:36
Please +jks. And disband after :)
2022-06-19 21:36
1 reply
No, jks staying free agent is better than joining this team
2022-06-19 21:38
#92
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Brazil davidthall
b.
2022-06-19 21:38
Thank god finally get a new fucking coach. IF IT IS ANOTHER FRIEND OF ELIGE I SWEAR TO GOD LIQUID
2022-06-19 21:38
+malek? or nitr0 to coach and bring in a rifler + igl.
2022-06-19 21:38
2 replies
+ stew + auti
2022-06-19 21:40
#110
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Other Quagmire_
+malek would be cool He deserves a stable salary and a good team, he's a great coach. Also I feel bad for him after that toxic2k drama
2022-06-19 21:41
#100
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India tym2die55
Don't ruin your career YEKINDAR pls.
2022-06-19 21:39
Rip Yekindar career
2022-06-19 21:40
snax?
2022-06-19 21:40
#104
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Other Quagmire_
Yekindar please don't do this to yourself
2022-06-19 21:40
+peacemaker +fox
2022-06-19 21:40
#106
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India Iamtanmay
Thank you
2022-06-19 21:40
YEKINDAR please
2022-06-19 21:41
#111
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France Uexo
Hope shoxie bounce back with a french project <3
2022-06-19 21:41
2 replies
Either LDLC, HEET or Falcons cuz he's not good enough for tier 1 anymore
2022-06-19 21:45
1 reply
Wrong person
2022-06-19 22:05
Long have we waited, Shox finally benched. Why AdreN tho?
2022-06-19 21:41
1 reply
Pretty useless as the main coach
2022-06-19 22:06
Ok guys shox is free, I repeat shox is free. Over.
2022-06-19 21:42
1 reply
#265
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Philippines B3nk4i
Cool
2022-06-19 23:29
+YEKINDAR and Liquid will compete for titles again
2022-06-19 21:42
Welcome Marek!
2022-06-19 21:42
About time Adren is benched. He has missed half of the events the last two years. I understand he had more important things, but his frequent absences hurt the team the more he did it. inconsistency will never help a team become consistent.
2022-06-19 21:42
Why didn’t kick nitr0? Naf and shox was very good duo
2022-06-19 21:44
Thank God, Adren is finally gone.
2022-06-19 21:44
1 reply
+1
2022-06-19 21:48
#123
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Czech Republic JameS_19
It was obvious from the begging that shox doesn’t fit in this lineup
2022-06-19 21:45
DO NOT JOIN LIQUID YEKINDAR
2022-06-19 21:45
Lulquid
2022-06-19 21:45
Easiest +jks ever
2022-06-19 21:46
1 reply
#360
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Sweden axelious
Yea
2022-06-20 09:17
Tragic, AdreN could have stuck around
2022-06-19 21:46
shox was a deadweight
2022-06-19 21:47
dont waste yekindar carrier.
2022-06-19 21:47
FINALY -SHOX BUT PLEASE DONY BUY YEKINDAR
2022-06-19 21:47
yekindar?
2022-06-19 21:48
#135
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Finland Mat0n1
+jks
2022-06-19 21:48
pls man pls shoxie pls find a team plsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
2022-06-19 21:49
Oh no Yekindar is about to ruin his career
2022-06-19 21:50
lmao
2022-06-19 21:51
#145
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Sweden Trkmag
Probably good, gl shoxie next
2022-06-19 21:51
They are still keeping elige.. Dont they see he is dragging them down with the attitudes
2022-06-19 21:51
1 reply
Elige owns lulquid, he aint getting the bench even if he bottomfrags for the rest of the year
2022-06-19 22:13
+jks plz
2022-06-19 21:53
Lol
2022-06-19 21:53
#155
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Sweden Akoulad
adreN for what? he is a good coach
2022-06-19 21:54
kennys, shox, nbk, amanek, kioshima is real
2022-06-19 21:54
Ok liquid have options for 5th player but who will be the new coach i have no clue
2022-06-19 21:55
5 replies
#172
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Albania aplasa
Malek, daps, or maybe some Eu coach
2022-06-19 22:01
4 replies
would Malek start a new journey in NA after EG experience? and I don't know about daps, he doesn't seem good for current cs
2022-06-19 22:05
2 replies
#195
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Albania aplasa
EG are not like liquid nitr0 are not like Stewie he is the best option if they wanna experienced coach / with daps I agree with you, but there is not that much option in NA, only daps
2022-06-19 22:09
1 reply
I agree that nitr0 is not childish like stew, but in the end it's malek who decides. he really is the best option rn, let's see
2022-06-19 22:18
I doubt Malek after the eg saga. Liquid is more professional thought. Honestly, I dont know for the coach. Msl would be nice.
2022-06-19 22:09
#161
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Georgia Megobari
expected as fuck, it was very dumb decision to sign Shox
2022-06-19 21:57
Wow Adren? Really didn’t think that would happen
2022-06-19 21:57
2 replies
#167
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Albania aplasa
as a adreN fan, they are right he wasn't talking that much in timeouts nor helping the team with ideas
2022-06-19 21:59
1 reply
+1 look more confused than anything
2022-06-19 22:07
whaaaaaaaaaaaat
2022-06-19 21:59
+snax ez
2022-06-19 21:59
iirc Shox asked for this, too much time away from his family does not sit right with this man. He's got a lil kid so you have to understand the man. Shox did good in Liquid imo, he was tossed in a weird role he did not sign up for as he was basically an IGL cause nitro has been out the loop for so long. Shox is a goat and one of the most if not the most flexible player of all time so I'm sure he'll find his place.
2022-06-19 22:01
Shox was expected, but AdreN?
2022-06-19 22:03
#177
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Belgium Gaetje
- misutaa +shox
2022-06-19 22:03
3 replies
useless transfer
2022-06-19 22:05
misutaa will only get better, shox will only get worse, 0 logic
2022-06-19 23:02
1 reply
#378
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Asia TL_aria
go check how bad misuta played in blast finals very bad
2022-06-20 12:22
+brehze/ +hext/ +clasia/ +autimatic help yourself and invest @ home
2022-06-19 22:03
finally
2022-06-19 22:05
#185
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Portugal dracø
Expected, shox was always out of position in this roster, huge waste of a legend with still much more to give to the scene. Now get him back in vitality in a full french roster.
2022-06-19 22:05
+grim +stewie2k as igl -shox -nitr0
2022-06-19 22:06
2 replies
0/8 grim and stew arent on good terms anymore
2022-06-19 22:15
1 reply
Surprise
2022-06-20 12:31
+1 Stewie nice, this way you dont need coach either
2022-06-19 22:07
Congratulations lulquid for not taking too long to do the obvious.
2022-06-19 22:10
Hopefully they will bring in someone from NA, maybe an younger "up-n-comming" star? And not drag any outside of NA players down into the dead scene of NA
2022-06-19 22:11
on fathers day
2022-06-19 22:12
wow they're benching shox?? I did not see that one coming and I especially didn't call that it was a terrible decision to pick him up in the first place! /S
2022-06-19 22:12
floppy please
2022-06-19 22:14
+ oBo
2022-06-19 22:15
#205
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Argentina WaSTe_D
Olof bestest coach
2022-06-19 22:16
Gl
2022-06-19 22:17
#210
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Australia notanalt
this was always doomed.
2022-06-19 22:18
lul
2022-06-19 22:20
-2 hot mens
2022-06-19 22:21
#232
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United States fl1ghtt
I feel a +stewie incoming tbh. i think after recent controversy he will give up igl and fir into liquid as entry + second caller
2022-06-19 22:33
2 replies
I really really doubt it. Shox said on a french podcast : "Liquid guys feel relieve since stewie left"".
2022-06-20 02:36
1 reply
He was talking about the future when he got booted.
2022-06-20 07:57
#233
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Sweden wyv0
f0rest
2022-06-19 22:34
swisher, floppy, JKS, refrezh, valde. List is endless
2022-06-19 22:35
finally -botshox
2022-06-19 22:38
#240
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Hungary szia
I am disappointed Now time for liquid gade
2022-06-19 22:39
#243
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United States velhacoo
+jks
2022-06-19 22:43
#244
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Peru SuperGOD
Lol
2022-06-19 22:45
#245
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Switzerland Lacerta
Floppy standin ez success Or bring Ethan back
2022-06-19 22:48
#247
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Argentina cheapdeed
how tf did they go back to square 1
2022-06-19 22:51
Although I am kinda sad for Shox I really understand why he didn't want to continue and bench himself. Adren was logical, he can go to analyst or he can coach EG now. I hope they sign Yekindar because that would be really really really good for Liquid, as for Coach, I really don't know who to get tbh
2022-06-19 22:50
#249
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Croatia dinnkksss
if yekindar join liquid it will be same as s1mple story in liquid..
2022-06-19 22:54
+yekindar +kassad
2022-06-19 22:59
Yeki/Refresh?
2022-06-19 23:01
+yekindar +MaleK or even kassad
2022-06-19 23:01
+yekinder/jks/snax and EU coach
2022-06-19 23:05
#262
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Lithuania ashas
adreN to coach Mythic, thoughts?
2022-06-19 23:13
2 replies
No one thinks of Mythic. .
2022-06-20 07:56
1 reply
#367
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Lithuania ashas
kinda harsh bruv
2022-06-20 10:04
even adren damn that sucks
2022-06-19 23:22
About 80% of the comments are mentioning players that would fit the team. But there is no player-solution to this roster. The reason they're losing is because of the players that are still there. Twistzz realized early on. The astralis players that left knew that there had to be changes. They keep holding on to the past success and want a comfortable paycheck. That's why people from the outside judge them because it seems theyre not taking risks in their careers. Plus shox got his retirement money. He'll be fine.
2022-06-19 23:30
5 replies
so basically what you're saying is that everyone is the problem
2022-06-20 01:07
1 reply
Faze is now holding on the past sucess in that definition.
2022-06-20 02:50
All the way down here to find this point. I just wanna point out that “ as we explore all of our future options for our roster.” is NOT a normal wording. Someone made a specific point in that sentence, which is that they’re not just looking for a new player.
2022-06-20 06:58
2 replies
Sure, but I'm pointing out the outsiders' perspective of just finding a replacement for shox, when as you have pointed out, a further underlying action may be taken.
2022-06-20 12:24
1 reply
I completely agree. I’m just surprised noone mentions the possible scale of that tweet - not until you did. Its wording suggests that disbanding or releasing entire roster is also on the table.
2022-06-20 15:11
#277
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Brazil Elakk
Who would have thought! No one could have imagined that signing shox out of nowhere and bringing a coach that doesn't add anything to the team would go wrong..
2022-06-20 00:06
+yekindar lets gooo
2022-06-20 00:11
#281
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Germany Azalot
adreN was just there because he can't find a job anyway
2022-06-20 00:13
1 reply
+1 he was just moral support
2022-06-20 00:15
Shox to vitality instead of botsutaaa?
2022-06-20 00:23
now adren can go back to playing with mythic though he didnt have much success there either
2022-06-20 00:28
+malek +snax +degster +yakindar +2EU\CIS young players and it will be one of the best USA team D
2022-06-20 00:28
1 reply
#402
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United States fl1ghtt
name
2022-06-20 15:19
shox replacing misuta, or he getting a saudi bag from Falcons
2022-06-20 00:36
hm
2022-06-20 00:39
Shocker 🤣
2022-06-20 00:44
expected, another washed up frenchie :()
2022-06-20 00:52
-adreN +AdreN GOAT
2022-06-20 00:53
the classic +adren -adren +adren -adren
2022-06-20 00:57
#305
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North America An1m3
New coach is going to be stewie2k.
2022-06-20 01:02
1 reply
#317
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Brazil Ja1fps
vasco
2022-06-20 02:21
One of the worst ran orgs out there. A 3rd grader would've been able to tell you that +shox was a horrible decision yet liquid management gets paid thousands of dollars for this lmfao.
2022-06-20 01:07
1 reply
Nitro too.
2022-06-20 07:54
#308
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Russia veloxman
oh no yekindar joins. I think they will become top 10 but yekindar can’t carry them by himself, they need more changes to become contender
2022-06-20 01:13
Arden back to mythic?
2022-06-20 01:16
-shox -nitr0 +yekindar +snax
2022-06-20 01:25
+lollipop21k and +ex6tenz ez top 5 team in the world
2022-06-20 02:22
Expected
2022-06-20 02:28
#322
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North America Dayt0na
w
2022-06-20 02:38
#324
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Sweden DonGatsby
+jks will be sick
2022-06-20 02:52
Expected, shox just seemed like a random pickup for TL
2022-06-20 04:18
1 reply
+1 never understood why they picked him up
2022-06-20 04:55
#329
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Russia scor2k
+ stewie @@
2022-06-20 04:21
#330
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United States GiantDays
probably for thr best. hire me as coach i can at least offer more support than adren
2022-06-20 04:55
super expected. my silver ass thinks liquid has no good future
2022-06-20 04:57
+amanek hopefully
2022-06-20 05:09
#334
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India SKS_1337
imagine benching sh0x as anchor. but not nitr0 as IGL. and not 0see as awper. poor org. Thought NA was swimming in money. atleast make 1 good signing. anyone. wasting elige and naf's elite years for no fucking reason.
2022-06-20 05:10
1 reply
Nitro definitely need ps to go but he won’t. Whoever is in charge of the team should have been fired a long time ago.
2022-06-20 07:54
Watch Malek go to Liquid.
2022-06-20 05:44
3 replies
elige would do the same thing stewie did, they're just as bad as eachother. Elige is probably more passive aggressive though. Malek deserves better.
2022-06-20 06:14
2 replies
Like what ? Malek is not a God t1 coach.
2022-06-20 13:55
1 reply
well liquid is far from t1, they're very bad now. I would say he can still do much better than liquid and im not implying he should be coaching a top 5 team either
2022-06-20 13:59
#336
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Europe Zwenix
"You don't always know what you have until you don't, and I think that is the case with regards to Eric," Liquid's co-CEO Victor Goossens
2022-06-20 05:59
Why did they bring Adren back as a coach anyway, whos idea was that? (i know the answer is elige dw). Liquid should -elige, I would bet a lot of money that liquid would be a lot better off in the long run and probably immediately too.
2022-06-20 06:15
#340
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Hong Kong Azusa
now disband
2022-06-20 06:15
#343
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Turkey YUS33F
don't yekindar
2022-06-20 07:18
please dont + yekindar for 1 million man.
2022-06-20 07:35
#345
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Argentina XaiDN
liquid is just a mess
2022-06-20 07:39
-shox +cynic/Minus/jks/oBo/Brehze/yekindar
2022-06-20 07:44
#348
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Mongolia dennek
yekindar is guarenteed, they probably wont let nitro go since he is important in keeping the team’s ego in check
2022-06-20 07:49
1 reply
Nitro is important to keeping them garbage.
2022-06-20 07:52
#349
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United States D1ngusboi
Plz add floppy
2022-06-20 07:51
1 reply
#400
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Italy PhilD06
don’t you want +yekindar rather?
2022-06-20 15:16
Liquid won’t do anything with Nitro still on the team.
2022-06-20 07:51
+malek +yekindar = na hope
2022-06-20 08:06
Pog
2022-06-20 09:12
shox retire please
2022-06-20 09:22
stewie2k back for the dream team
2022-06-20 09:55
#364
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Bangladesh ImpacT_
finally a good move, if they get yekinder instant top 10 team
2022-06-20 09:57
made a twitter joke saying yekindar will surely go toliquid, but now that it's very likely to happen, i'm very close to deleting my account
2022-06-20 10:12
Take Snax, they still are competetive in tier 1 and do not have A team
2022-06-20 10:11
3 replies
#399
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Italy PhilD06
you never know, maybe he was just like that cuz he was a stand in and had no pressure, not denying what you said tho just my thoughts
2022-06-20 15:15
2 replies
Yea but can't deny he was beating S/A tier teams with a Very good rating, he would add A lot of experience+skill to the team
2022-06-20 20:22
1 reply
#435
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Italy PhilD06
agreed
2022-06-20 22:09
#369
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Australia sm0go
Liquid jks incoming
2022-06-20 10:15
Shox's t1 career is officially over... Goodbye Legend.
2022-06-20 11:04
So many free talents on the market or cheap af buy washed up boomers gone
2022-06-20 12:59
Vitality should get shox back and add JACKZ and XTQZZ for dupreeh, Magisk and zonic. That would eliminate all the communication issues currently bottlenecking the potential of the team and add even more firepower. Since the old Vitality with a rookie Kyojin was even good enough for the Major playoffs I can definately see a world with Vitality back at top 3 with an experienced and well established anchor/entry like JACKZ
2022-06-20 13:06
Snax??
2022-06-20 13:13
should +zews as a coach, malek wouldn't be bad too
2022-06-20 13:31
shox to g2 instead of jackz?
2022-06-20 13:33
adreN ooof, i will miss him :(
2022-06-20 13:47
1 reply
#398
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Italy PhilD06
I also do, but maybe it’s the right thing to do, he never was hyping up the team or so, hope they won’t regret it or smth
2022-06-20 15:15
Jks or snax
2022-06-20 14:31
all these delusional comments lmao, just -adren and + gaben , easy 10 major wins nub
2022-06-20 14:43
1 reply
#405
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Singapore 2200DPI
+1 yeah they're so delusional, and your opinion makes sense
2022-06-20 15:37
#401
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United States DarkFX
NA doesn’t have the attitude required to lift trophies right now.
2022-06-20 15:17
WELCOME, SNAX
2022-06-20 15:36
#406
 | 
Singapore 2200DPI
alex, kennys, rpk, nbk, shox, sixer... (1vs1 to decide who to coach)
2022-06-20 15:38
Elige destroying the team?
2022-06-20 16:57
nitr0 stayed?? hahahahahahahahaha
2022-06-20 17:42
2 replies
Nitr0 probably begging liquid to keep him because they don’t want him back in valorant
2022-06-20 19:15
1 reply
soo bad
2022-06-21 06:30
Shox lasted longer than i thought he would tbh
2022-06-20 20:20
Never believed in this shox + usa team project from day one. For someone like shox it's only a french team and that's it.
2022-06-20 22:07
#436
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United States Will767
MOSES was better than Adren any day
2022-06-20 23:42
Light a candle for Richard "shox" Papillon <3
2022-06-21 16:21
+yekendar or +ziphon or +jks
2022-06-21 17:59
noiss
2022-06-21 21:52
#444
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Slovakia Adwarin
OMG eu player wasting time in na
2022-06-21 23:58
#445
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Montenegro MLN15
It was just question of time, shox is so bad. Nitro is also bad
2022-06-22 15:39
Flom to tl
2022-06-22 23:30
Brave step, waiting for G2 to do the same bring down the lazy coach and IGL
2022-06-23 20:36
#451
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Japan yra13vonn
inb4 +yekindar
2022-06-23 21:15
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