sjuush: "I don't want to take anything away from refrezh, but we also wanted more"

Playing their debut with newest member Jakob "⁠jabbi⁠" Nygaard, Heroic have just advanced to the IEM Cologne group stage, and we talked to Rasmus "⁠sjuush⁠" Beck about his new teammate.

After a year and a half without changes, Heroic decided to pull the plug just a few weeks ahead of the season finale at IEM Cologne, benching Ismail "⁠refrezh⁠" Ali to make space for a new young member in former Copenhagen Flames rifler jabbi.

Now making their debut with the new player in Germany, Heroic have already made somewhat of a statement in the Play-in stage with convincing victories over Sprout and MOUZ, and now they march on to the group stage to face off against some of the tournament favorites.

sjuush spoke highly of jabbi, with whom he shares several positions

We had a chance to talk to sjuush after the Danes advanced to get his impression of his new teammate, why the team made changes in the first place, and how he sees the competition at IEM Cologne and Heroic's chances to go far in their debut.

Obviously, we have to address the change at first after you brought in jabbi to replace refrezh. What were the main factors behind that and why jabbi?

I think it was multiple things. I don't want to take anything away from refrezh because he was doing so many good things, but we also wanted more, and jabbi is a young guy, he wants to improve, he wants to learn, and he was already good in Flames and had some good results. We thought that if we take him in we can get even better results, and already by now I feel like me and jabbi have more synergy, we hold a lot of sites together, and I feel there is a change in a good way. I'm excited to see in the future.

What's your impression of him so far?

I didn't know him at all, how he played in-game, so I was really surprised by how much initiative he is taking and just how he's talking in general, the information he is giving. I can do a play, tell him what I'm doing and try to get him involved, and he knows exactly what to do every single time. He does the same thing and I know what to do, so we just work good together.

How much of a one-to-one change is it in terms of roles, did you have to make changes to accommodate jabbi, or was it a simple replacement?

I think it was kinda one to one. On some maps we had to change a little bit, we still keep it the Heroic way, we still keep our own things, and we have a lot of things we can fall back on if things don't really work. We make it easy for him.

You have proven in the past that roster changes don't necessarily always mean that you're not going to be in top shape, as when you came in you won your first tournament together and went on a winning streak. What does that mean for you and Cologne and the expectations you put on yourself? Are you hoping to find that same spark, or what is the vibe like at the moment?

I definitely feel like we have some new energy in the team. We want to show that we can become even better with jabbi, but we also want to give him a fair chance to just get in the rhythm of everything. We haven't really talked about how we do our prep at tournaments and stuff, so he has to get into that rhythm as well. All the small things in the server, outside of the server, as well.

We don't want to say that we didn't have that much practice because we've been bootcamping for like two-and-a-half weeks now and now we're going to be away for 14 days as well, so we'll be away for a month because we really want to show that we can actually win this. So we don't want to use it as an excuse that we didn't have enough practice... But if we lose, we didn't have enough practice.

Heroic hope they can get even further with jabbi

So you'd just use it as an excuse at that point, got it (laughs).

Yeah (laughs).

You just had the chance to play Ancient and it looked pretty straightforward. Do you have any initial thoughts on how the map plays after changes and how different it is compared to the previous version?

It's definitely different now since there are no boxes in the window, I feel like that's a huge change. But us as a team, I feel like we are way better at it now. I felt like we were good at it before, but we didn't win any games (chuckles). I'm really excited to just play a few more matches, but the meta can change all the time on it, no one has really found the right way to play it yet.

It seems that the competition is really close at the moment after FaZe have struggled and NAVI are looking back in form, while other teams could challenge them. How do you view the main event and where Heroic stand among the competition? Can we count you as one of the favorites?

It is definitely hard to say who is the favorite. I honestly have no idea. I feel like maybe Cloud9 are the ones in the best shape at the moment, NAVI with a stand-in can either do well or just be completely bad, and FaZe have been in a slump, everyone is surprised they're not that good anymore, and G2 haven't really shown their level yet... I guess you can keep saying that about them, that they're just not doing anything (laughs). I feel like we have a good chance to reach playoffs. I hope so. We reached playoffs for every single event there has been, so I hope to do that here as well, also to see how jabbi is doing on a stage. I feel like that can give us a lot of experience.

Denmark Ismail 'refrezh' Ali
Ismail 'refrezh' Ali
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
978
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.65
Denmark Rasmus 'sjuush' Beck
Rasmus 'sjuush' Beck
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
821
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.64
Denmark Jakob 'jabbi' Nygaard
Jakob 'jabbi' Nygaard
Age:
19
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
771
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.66
wow nice teammate
2022-07-05 20:26
6 replies
#4
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Brazil flytw4tp
refrezh= onliner
2022-07-05 20:28
taking hltv quotes as real thing lol
2022-07-05 22:09
#42
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Slovakia dragerlpro
sjuush is next i mean
2022-07-05 22:30
I think they just need to go back to cheating in every tier 1 event cause they've been shit ever since
2022-07-05 23:00
2 replies
Heroic been shit says fan of Astralis? :D
2022-07-06 06:44
1 reply
At least Astralis didn't cheat and blatantly admit to it.
2022-07-06 14:21
jabbi >>>
2022-07-05 20:26
1 reply
NNNNN
2022-07-05 20:31
yea right, i and many others see right through this
2022-07-05 20:27
7 replies
+1
2022-07-05 20:28
+1
2022-07-05 20:32
#19
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Europe epiGen
+1
2022-07-05 20:51
Wdym?
2022-07-05 22:05
hello grenzor. do you mean that heroic is a racist team, as usually that's the only thing you discuss on this site?
2022-07-05 22:11
It is the only logical explanation for you? are some people exempt from criticism or being dropped?
2022-07-06 13:50
+1
2022-07-06 13:51
#6
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United States cybonics
damn
2022-07-05 20:28
#9
jks | 
Denmark rolade
jabbi god
2022-07-05 20:31
you wont get more tho
2022-07-05 20:31
1 reply
They've already gotten more. Refrezh has always been overrated.
2022-07-05 20:37
#13
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Bangladesh ImpacT_
"we don't want to use it as an excuse that we didn't have enough practice... But if we lose, we didn't have enough practice." gigachad
2022-07-05 20:34
#15
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CIS E5KH
racista
2022-07-05 20:38
2 replies
Can't spell racista without CIS
2022-07-06 13:42
1 reply
#82
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CIS E5KH
are you being racist towards me
2022-07-06 15:19
we all know why.......
2022-07-05 20:42
Tbh I don't like his statement. Kinda disrespectful
2022-07-05 20:50
1 reply
#35
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Sweden skorpan
I guess u just read the topic? Try to involve the whole context.
2022-07-05 22:08
#20
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Poland Hanse
He doesn't know he's next on the cutting bloc lmao
2022-07-05 20:52
19 replies
#22
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Nera1106
looool he is literally second best heroic player...
2022-07-05 20:58
8 replies
? he is more replaceable than Teses, Stavn, Jabbi and Cadian
2022-07-06 02:12
7 replies
He is less replaceable than teses for sure.
2022-07-06 03:02
5 replies
any better danish entry than him?
2022-07-06 03:42
4 replies
#68
sdy | 
Indonesia Friedge
jabbi, dupreeh, magisk, bubzkji
2022-07-06 10:59
2 replies
Teses better than all
2022-07-06 11:54
1 reply
LOL. Stawn is much better, more consistent. Not even close.
2022-07-06 13:24
There you go ^ Now name better support players than sjuush. Only perfecto and interz can compete with him. And they are not even danish.
2022-07-06 11:53
#69
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Nera1106
Tell me you dont watch heroic games without actually telling me. Sjush impact is amazing, one of the best players in his role. Stop talking shit braaa
2022-07-06 11:01
-1 he is legit the best player in the world in his position
2022-07-05 21:19
9 replies
#49
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United States cybonics
A battle between him and Perfecto for #1
2022-07-05 22:58
8 replies
Defecto is not even close to god sjuush.
2022-07-05 23:03
perfecto has much more carry in simple and bit sjuush is better
2022-07-05 23:43
The guy played a lifegame today against Sprout and people think he's better than Perfecto or Interz in his role
2022-07-06 02:18
3 replies
#65
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United States cybonics
You clearly don't watch heroic games because sjuush puts up similar numbers relatively often
2022-07-06 05:03
1 reply
#70
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Nera1106
We can argue does he watch any games except Brasilian teams hahaha
2022-07-06 11:02
not even mediocre analyst, you should be ashamed
2022-07-06 13:27
Agreed +1
2022-07-06 03:02
1 reply
-1 His mirage are delight to watch go watch some heroic games and see how he does
2022-07-06 11:39
you dont want to, but you did
2022-07-05 20:57
How is this racist? it's clearly logical that you want to replace the weakest link
2022-07-05 21:07
#26
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Finland AliSabid
twofaced toledo??
2022-07-05 21:12
1 reply
fallen changed ingame name and gave an interview
2022-07-05 21:17
More than 1v5? Lost respect to Sjush
2022-07-05 21:27
1 reply
One round doesn't make a player gud at lan . And refrezh chocked at LAN . They lost to NaVi at major due to lost refrezh
2022-07-05 21:53
#45
NAF | 
Canada xyzoo
lefties going wild haha
2022-07-05 22:44
And heroic will finely still crash out losers.
2022-07-05 22:46
what a racist guy
2022-07-05 22:47
That 1v5 against liquid should have given him permanent spot on the roster for next few years
2022-07-05 23:04
They want more? calling hunden 911
2022-07-06 00:35
Racially motivated
2022-07-06 00:35
snake org with snake team and snake players. Nothing new
2022-07-06 02:03
Sjuush "Two Faced" Toledo
2022-07-06 02:08
(chuckles)
2022-07-06 03:04
kicking refrezh was dumb, they would have shut this game out in the 2nd map if they had refrezh.
2022-07-06 08:19
2 replies
i have a little essays to doubt
2022-07-06 13:26
1 reply
what?
2022-07-06 13:47
I feel like jabbi is a bit more aggresive than refrezh and it can help TeSeS to stabilize his form a little bit, I think that's the main point of why this is an upgrade, but also one to one jabbi seems like a better player than refrezh. It will take some time to develop every map with jabbi on it, they will probably have to change some things on some maps, but I'm optimistic. GL Heroic, let's go Xizt!
2022-07-06 15:51
They wanted more early tournament departures, I guess
2022-07-08 18:20
#86
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Slovakia AdorrioN
KEKW
2022-07-08 18:22
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