Who were the winners and losers of the last off-season?

With another player break upon us, it is time to evaluate the teams that made changes coming in to 2022.

Roster shuffles are a common occurrence in CS:GO. The game operates in an ecosystem that often sees mass changes of personnel, and the last off-season was no different. A plethora of teams revamped or tweaked their lineups in an attempt to change their fortunes, or in the case of many their eyes were gazing towards the kings of 2021 Natus Vincere, trying to put together rosters to match the CIS giants.

This article examines some of the headline names from our 2022 rostermania recap, and asks a simple question: after the first season of this year, who are the winners and losers of the previous rostermania?

FaZe have emerged as the clear winners of the previous roster shuffle

The winners

Europe FaZe

A no-brainer here. When FaZe announced the signing of the world-class Robin "⁠ropz⁠" Kool, a favourite of Finn "⁠karrigan⁠" Andersen, everyone knew this was a team that had tantalising potential. Finally it seemed we had a team that might be able to challenge the juggernaut of Natus Vincere, with a core trio of ropz-Helvijs "⁠broky⁠" Saukants-Russel "⁠Twistzz⁠" Van Dulken that rivalled the firepower of any in history, and a supporting cast of Håvard "⁠rain⁠" Nygaard and karrigan who are some of the most experienced and decorated players in CS:GO. They delivered on that promise and then some, winning the three biggest events of the year so far in Katowice, the Major and Cologne, as well as picking up the ESL Pro League Season 15 title and second place in the online Roobet Cup.

It wasn’t all plain sailing for the European powerhouse, a two-tournament wobble around IEM Dallas and BLAST Premier Spring Finals saw some ugly results, but they were ultimately the best team of the season by some distance despite a late resurgence from Natus Vincere. ropz has provided the level of play that he was brought in to produce, his highlight moment on Inferno in Katowice the pinnacle, broky has developed into a menacing threat with the AWP and was arguably the second best player of the first part of the year, Twistzz has provided some incredible impact, particularly in the last couple of months, and rain picked up the MVP award for the Major victory, a momentous achievement for a player supposedly past his best. ropz was the catalyst for a dominant and inspiring run of form, and his teammates have spoken at length about his contributions outside of simply fragging.

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karrigan on ropz, Twistzz, and broky: "The sky is the limit for them to stay together for a long time"

What is maybe most impressive about the ropz move is that it has somehow not taken away space from FaZe’s other players. FaZe have shown time and time again in their runs so far this year that every single player can contribute, with even karrigan grabbing some player of the match awards in Cologne, and the sheer depth their squad has in terms of fragging ability makes them a frightening opponent even if one of the stars is not at their best; someone else is more than capable of taking up the reins and carrying the team when needed.

karrigan and co. will be tough to surmount next season, regardless of the changes teams around them may be making in an attempt to catch up. Natus Vincere showed at BLAST Premier Spring Finals that they can do it on their day, albeit with FaZe in something of a rut, and will be favourites to knock their European counterparts off the pedestal they currently reside upon. For now FaZe are not just the biggest winners of the off-season, but the winners of the first season full stop.

ropz has proven to be a valuable addition to FaZe

Europe ENCE

ENCE may be the team that came out of the 2021 winter player break as the biggest winners of them all, outside of the season-defining team FaZe. Already a team on the rise at the end of last year, they made the seemingly bold decision to swap out Joonas "⁠doto⁠" Forss for Pavle "⁠Maden⁠" Bošković, and it was a move that almost immediately bore fruit. A short adjustment period saw them place well in a couple of tier-two online events and crash early out of Katowice, before they went on a streak of results that saw them take second at ESL Pro League Season 15, win the BLAST Spring Premier Showdown, place top-four at the Major, and take another second-place finish at IEM Dallas with a stand-in. This excellent run of form saw ENCE rise to #2 in the HLTV rankings, matching the feat performed by the all-Finnish lineup in 2019.

Maden has added a dynamism and aggression to ENCE that was sorely needed, particularly considering the style employed by IGL Marco "⁠Snappi⁠" Pfeiffer. ENCE are an assertive team that gives room to their individuals to make plays, with Chad "⁠SPUNJ⁠" Burchill recently opining in an episode of Confirmed that Snappi "gives Spinx the world", and having Maden taking space and creating opportunities for players like the aforementioned Lotan "⁠Spinx⁠" Giladi and Paweł "⁠dycha⁠" Dycha has turned that team into a real powerhouse.

As is always the case with teams of a slightly more modest budget than big boys such as G2 and Vitality, there are rumours circulating that the team may end up being picked apart in the current off-season, with G2 supposedly sniffing around Maden and Snappi and Vitality taking an interest in Spinx. Of course, in return there are also suggestions that the current lineup would prefer to remain together. It would be a shame for this current iteration of ENCE to break up before the team has really run its course, a shame for the lineup to not make a real go of taking a big event trophy and seeing how far they can push their newfound ceiling. However, esports is a fickle mistress, and times move fast in the world of CS:GO, so let’s wait and see if ENCE can fend off the sharks that are circling and keep the team together for the next season.

Germany BIG

This may seem controversial to some, as BIG have been a little bit all over the place this season, and have had to battle through multiple COVID-related absences where Nils "⁠k1to⁠" Gruhne has had to step in to the lineup in place of Josef "⁠faveN⁠" Baumann and Karim "⁠Krimbo⁠" Moussa. Still, the additions of the latter two youngsters does seem to have been a step in the right direction for the Germans.

If we filter for big events, BIG have already produced a placing which surpasses anything they managed last year, taking a top-four at IEM Dallas; the best the squad managed in 2021 was 7-8th in Cologne. They also won Roobet Cup, which is a far more impressive feat than the online Gamers Without Borders and Funspark ULTI Final trophies they secured last year. It seems that, particularly with Krimbo in the squad, BIG are able to hit a higher ceiling than was previously possible.

With the rumours that Johannes "⁠tabseN⁠" Wodarz might head over to G2 apparently quelled, BIG will be hoping they can keep the squad healthy and tackle the next season without the disruptions that marred their campaign in the first half of the year.

Krimbo already has a Roobet Cup victory and Dallas top-four to his name

Europe MOUZ

Being brutally honest, MOUZ set themselves a pretty low bar with their performances in 2021. Outside of Flashpoint 3, it was a year of consistent immediate tournament exits and mediocre to poor showings. As such, their 5-6th place finish in Cologne eclipses anything they managed last year, and is enough to declare the changes at least a modest success.

Perhaps one could argue that, since Nathan "⁠NBK-⁠" Schmitt was almost immediately ditched after being brought in during the last off-season, their last revamp was partially a failure. Equally, the fact that MOUZ moved early to bring Jon "⁠JDC⁠" de Castro up from their academy into the squad could be seen as rectifying that failure, and the German had produced some notable high points, particularly in Cologne. The other man who was promoted from the academy, Ádám "⁠torzsi⁠" Torzsás, has been an unqualified success, their highest rated player overall for 2022 so far and posting the best opening kill statistics, taking nearly 20% of the opening duels with an excellent near-65% success rate. On balance then it seems fair, considering the Cologne result that ended their season, to slot MOUZ into the winners column.

With a very young squad, a recent improvement in fortunes and form, and Christopher "⁠dexter⁠" Nong having seemingly found an effective way to call on T side, MOUZ are well poised to push on next season.

Their run in Cologne was MOUZ's best big event showing for some time

The losers

Brazil FURIA

FURIA are the hardest team to rank as either winners or losers, because it has pretty much been business as usual since the addition of Rafael "⁠saffee⁠" Costa. They have shown glimpses of their best, taking top-four at ESL Pro League and IEM Dallas, but they have also shown an alarmingly low floor at times, particularly during the recent ESL Challenger Valencia event, where the team were eliminated without a single map win to their name as by far the best-ranked team participating.

As a team it is still the Kaike "⁠KSCERATO⁠" Cerato and Yuri "⁠yuurih⁠" Santos show, with the latter producing much of the fragging for the first season overall, particularly considering the former’s patchy form close to the player break. In fact, so key is KSCERATO to the Brazilian squad that his dip in form has coincided with FURIA's rough end to the season; his rating dropped to 1.05 and impact to 0.97 for the last three months, a stark contrast to his 1.17 and 1.15 for the whole of 2021.

As for the rest of the squad, André "⁠drop⁠" Abreu has developed into a solid anchor player, an effective man in many of the unglamorous roles and positions of CS. The new signing saffee has been largely underwhelming, struggling to break 1.00 rating in the big events, although his performance in Cologne was most definitely an improvement. What about Andrei "⁠arT⁠" Piovezan? Well, he is still arT, one of the most thrilling and aggressive players in top-tier CS.

Finishes have pretty much been comparable to 2021; they made the playoffs of the Major and as previously mentioned achieved notable top-fours at ESL Pro League and in Dallas. These results are in contrast to two disappointing Challenger events, particularly the woeful Valencia performance, and a failure to make BLAST Premier Spring Finals, being pipped in the NA Showdown by paiN. Both of the latter finishes came at the end of the season, during KSCERATO's dip in form, along with an early exit from the Roobet Cup.

As it would be boring to cop out and provide no answer, FURIA will be placed in the losers column, purely because the changes don’t appear to have brought about a significant improvement, and if anything their floor may have dipped slightly with the change in personnel; Vinicius "⁠VINI⁠" Figueiredo was a consistent player, the type who gives a six or seven out of 10 every game. It feels like if FURIA are to push on with the current roster, saffee will have to find a way to provide more output next season, and their star man KSCERATO will need to be revitalised after the break.

France Vitality

Vitality put together the Franco-Danish superteam with the ambition of winning trophies. "European super teams capable of winning the most coveted trophies in esports," is the mandate that Vitality as an organisation have set themselves. More specifically about the CS:GO roster, Co-Founder and Esports Director Fabian "Neo" Devide said “dupreeh, Magisk and zonic have what it takes to move us from not just being a strong contender, but the best CS:GO team in the world.”

That ambition has fallen rather flat. Group stage exit after group stage exit has been punctuated by constant murmurings of language barriers, cultural differences and clashing playstyles coming out of the Vitality camp. There have been some significant lows, such as a failure to win a single map during Pinnacle Cup III, the team being invited direct to the quarter-finals only to be immediately knocked out 0-2 by a SKADE lineup 17 places below them in the world rankings. The only real highs have been a convincing 3-0 showing during the Challengers Stage of the PGL Major Antwerp and a run to the grand-final of BLAST Premier Spring Finals, although the latter was achieved with FaZe and ENCE both arguably out-of-sorts.

Vitality have plenty of thinking to do in the off-season

A struggle to develop a coherent identity and being devoid of high-output individual performances beyond Mathieu "⁠ZywOo⁠" Herbaut have seen Vitality slip as low as #11 in the world ranking so far this year, and their current ranking of 6th is more down to a lack of consistent teams at this very moment outside of FaZe and Natus Vincere rather than their own brilliance. Such is the extent of the disappointing performances that Vitality are already considering changes to this roster, with the perennially underwhelming Kévin "⁠misutaaa⁠" Rabier the man whose head is on the chopping block, and that alone is probably enough to say that Vitality were amongst the losers of the previous off-season.

Europe G2

You can rarely fault G2 CEO Carlos "ocelote" Rodriguez's ambition, that much is certainly true. He cracked out the chequebook and slapped a fat sum of money on the table when his CS:GO division needed revitalising over the winter break, splashing a reported $600k for hotly-touted AWP talent Ilya "⁠m0NESY⁠" Osipov. Brought in alongside the youngster was Aleksi "⁠Aleksib⁠" Virolainen, an IGL with reasonable pedigree, having been hailed as the driving force behind a breakout ENCE roster even if his time in OG was met with mixed reviews. Rémy "⁠XTQZZZ⁠" Quoniam too came in, with many hailing him as the best coach in the world.

For the briefest of moments, it seemed like G2 may have gotten the championship-calibre team they so desperately sought. Their first big LAN event after the changes, IEM Katowice, was a roaring success, a second place finish coming alongside some impressive series wins against teams like Natus Vincere and Virtus.pro (who at the time were #4 in the world). Since then progress has faltered, with multiple group stage exits at the biggest events like EPL, the Major and Cologne punctuated by the odd playoff appearance.

Katowice was a flash in the pan for G2

m0NESY has been good with flashes of brilliance, and his clutch potential is undeniable, but he is yet to discover the secret to consistency. Regardless, you would expect G2 to be seeing that signing as a success thus far. As for Aleksib and XTQZZZ, you would have to say that combined, they have been a failure. G2 have not managed the results they set out to achieve, and rumours behind the scenes suggest that that the trio of Aleksib, Nikola "⁠NiKo⁠" Kovač and XTQZZZ have not found a way to work well together. Unsurprisingly Aleksi appears to have lost that tug of war, and finds himself in the shopping window as G2 already are looking to pivot, and are taking stock of their options.

It would be generous to categorise G2 as anything other than losers of the previous off-season, but there seems to be a consensus amongst the analysts and pundits of the scene that the core trio is now solid after the addition of m0NESY. With the right IGL, maybe one who can create space for his stars, and a solid anchor player, surely G2 can kick on and contend for titles next season.

United States Liquid

The Richard "⁠shox⁠" Papillon move was a complete disaster, Nick "⁠nitr0⁠" Cannella has come back from Valorant and struggled to find much individual form, and Liquid have generally underwhelmed and struggled in most tier-one events. In short, they are comfortably one of the losers of the previous off-season.

The changes weren't all bad, however. Josh "⁠oSee⁠" Ohm has been a great signing, and has shown he most definitely has the potential to step up to be an elite tier-one AWPer. Consistency has been lacking but his ceiling is high, he has shown he can have fantastic impact with both the AWP and rifles, and has been cool in the clutch.

Cologne was much improved, and if the signing of Mareks "⁠YEKINDAR⁠" Gaļinskis can be made permanent, then Liquid may really be cooking with gas come the second half of 2022.

Europe OG

We need to try and put the recent BLAST Premier Spring Finals out of our mind, because that was achieved with a yet again revamped roster. Prior to this, OG were pretty terrible. Outside of a brief flash in the first event with Nemanja "⁠nexa⁠" Isaković, the BLAST Spring Groups, there was not a single result of note. Katowice resulted in an immediate exit at the hands of Heroic and then MOUZ, and they were comfortably 2-0’d by Eternal Fire to crash out of the Europe RMR and not even make the Major. That’s it. OG barely played in the first half of the year, and when they did it was unremarkable, to put it kindly.

nexa alone could not provide the transformation OG were hoping for

Maciej "⁠F1KU⁠" Miklas and Adam "⁠NEOFRAG⁠" Zouhar seem to suit the loose approach nexa favours better than Valdemar "⁠valde⁠" Bjørn Vangså and Nikolaj "⁠niko⁠" Kristensen did, and so it seems that they have a good chance to find themselves in the winners column for the next iteration of this article. Considering solely the addition of nexa for the start of the season just passed, they will have to remain losers for now.

United States Complexity

Need I say more?

Lineup Age Rating
CanadaJustin "FaNg" Coakley 20 0.99
United StatesRicky "floppy" Kemery 22 0.97
United StatesMichael "Grim" Wince 21 0.83
South AfricaJohnny "JT" Theodosiou 23 0.81
United StatesPaytyn "junior" Johnson 21 0.79
Offline placings in the last three months
Placement Event
13-16th
IEM Cologne 2022 Play-In
5-8th
Global Esports Tour Dubai 2022
13-16th
IEM Dallas 2022
12-14th
PGL Major Antwerp 2022 Challengers Stage
France Nathan 'NBK-' Schmitt
Nathan 'NBK-' Schmitt
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
2051
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.67
Montenegro Pavle 'Maden' Bošković
Pavle 'Maden' Bošković
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
699
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.70
Latvia Helvijs 'broky' Saukants
Helvijs 'broky' Saukants
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
714
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.61
United States Nick 'nitr0' Cannella
Nick 'nitr0' Cannella
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
1401
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.66
Brazil Yuri 'yuurih' Santos
Yuri 'yuurih' Santos
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.12
Maps played:
1022
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.64
Brazil Kaike 'KSCERATO' Cerato
Kaike 'KSCERATO' Cerato
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.14
Maps played:
930
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.58
Serbia Nemanja 'nexa' Isaković
Nemanja 'nexa' Isaković
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
1253
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.63
Brazil Rafael 'saffee' Costa
Rafael 'saffee' Costa
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.20
Maps played:
404
KPR:
0.79
DPR:
0.61
Australia Chad 'SPUNJ' Burchill
Chad 'SPUNJ' Burchill
Age:
33
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.88
Maps played:
160
KPR:
0.62
DPR:
0.73
Brazil Vinicius 'VINI' Figueiredo
Vinicius 'VINI' Figueiredo
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
1000
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.67
Denmark Nikolaj 'niko' Kristensen
Nikolaj 'niko' Kristensen
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
1211
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.66
Hungary Ádám 'torzsi' Torzsás
Ádám 'torzsi' Torzsás
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.16
Maps played:
478
KPR:
0.78
DPR:
0.62
Denmark Marco 'Snappi' Pfeiffer
Marco 'Snappi' Pfeiffer
Age:
32
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.96
Maps played:
1591
KPR:
0.65
DPR:
0.67
Canada Russel 'Twistzz' Van Dulken
Russel 'Twistzz' Van Dulken
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.11
Maps played:
1394
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.62
Australia Christopher 'dexter' Nong
Christopher 'dexter' Nong
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1006
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.66
Bosnia and Herzegovina Nikola 'NiKo' Kovač
Nikola 'NiKo' Kovač
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.15
Maps played:
1637
KPR:
0.80
DPR:
0.67
Russia Ilya 'm0NESY' Osipov
Ilya 'm0NESY' Osipov
Age:
17
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.18
Maps played:
263
KPR:
0.78
DPR:
0.60
Germany Johannes 'tabseN' Wodarz
Johannes 'tabseN' Wodarz
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
1953
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.70
Brazil André 'drop' Abreu
André 'drop' Abreu
Age:
18
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.95
Maps played:
178
KPR:
0.61
DPR:
0.63
Estonia Robin 'ropz' Kool
Robin 'ropz' Kool
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.12
Maps played:
1149
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.61
Israel Lotan 'Spinx' Giladi
Lotan 'Spinx' Giladi
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
442
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.65
Denmark Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
Age:
32
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.91
Maps played:
2031
KPR:
0.62
DPR:
0.69
Germany Karim 'Krimbo' Moussa
Karim 'Krimbo' Moussa
Age:
19
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
355
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.64
United States Josh 'oSee' Ohm
Josh 'oSee' Ohm
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.11
Maps played:
1103
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.62
Denmark Valdemar 'valde' Bjørn Vangså
Valdemar 'valde' Bjørn Vangså
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1230
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.65
France Richard 'shox' Papillon
Richard 'shox' Papillon
Age:
30
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
2018
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.66
Czech Republic Adam 'NEOFRAG' Zouhar
Adam 'NEOFRAG' Zouhar
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.11
Maps played:
676
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.67
Poland Paweł 'dycha' Dycha
Paweł 'dycha' Dycha
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
813
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.67
Germany Jon 'JDC' de Castro
Jon 'JDC' de Castro
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
521
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.67
Germany Josef 'faveN' Baumann
Josef 'faveN' Baumann
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1348
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.65
Finland Aleksi 'Aleksib' Virolainen
Aleksi 'Aleksib' Virolainen
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.96
Maps played:
1037
KPR:
0.64
DPR:
0.65
Latvia Mareks 'YEKINDAR' Gaļinskis
Mareks 'YEKINDAR' Gaļinskis
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
1104
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.70
Finland Joonas 'doto' Forss
Joonas 'doto' Forss
Age:
26
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
648
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.68
France Kévin 'misutaaa' Rabier
Kévin 'misutaaa' Rabier
Age:
19
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.95
Maps played:
458
KPR:
0.63
DPR:
0.67
Poland Maciej 'F1KU' Miklas
Maciej 'F1KU' Miklas
Age:
19
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
608
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.68
Brazil Andrei 'arT' Piovezan
Andrei 'arT' Piovezan
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
1008
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.71
Germany Nils 'k1to' Gruhne
Nils 'k1to' Gruhne
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
1275
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.69
France Mathieu 'ZywOo' Herbaut
Mathieu 'ZywOo' Herbaut
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.27
Maps played:
1020
KPR:
0.84
DPR:
0.61
Norway Håvard 'rain' Nygaard
Håvard 'rain' Nygaard
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
1627
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.69
France Rémy 'XTQZZZ' Quoniam
Rémy 'XTQZZZ' Quoniam
Age:
33
Team:
winner gonna be EF this season
2022-07-27 22:59
24 replies
#7
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Poland EZ4Bard
so you hate yourself?
2022-07-27 23:01
8 replies
Complexity💀
2022-07-27 23:14
7 replies
BIG and Mouz winners lul
2022-07-28 03:25
6 replies
BIG is a winner, that I agree. They were garbage with gade but MOUZ isn't a winner just because of Cologne like come on, they didn't even qualify for the major
2022-07-28 03:32
5 replies
+1
2022-07-28 03:35
How about Movistar?
2022-07-28 13:36
3 replies
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Brazil Shinoky
talking about the overall They did great in ESL pro League smashing everyone in the group, qualified for the major and did a great job at that last event For a team that was tier 2 at the beginning of the year... They are so fucking Winners
2022-07-28 14:27
Well, they had a breakthrough in Valencia and Cologne but I think themselves expected much more success in the beginning of the year. Overall, with the confidence building up and should they keep this momentum going forward, I'd say winners
2022-07-28 14:40
1 reply
Ye i mean them as winners and they did more than Mouz this season
2022-07-28 16:18
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Brazil Anarchybr
Mannn HLTV did dirty to Complexity “Need I to say more?” 💀 Lmaoo
2022-07-27 23:03
5 replies
#39
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North America Camino
Deserved dunk BLAST/ESL partnered team should deliver results, it's a T1 org
2022-07-27 23:14
LMAOOOO Grim: "Nobody wants to be the first team to lose to us."
2022-07-28 00:55
God damnn
2022-07-28 06:06
Grim was exposed and stew was right about him. He doesn't learn very fast indeed. He just said that rudely, stew being stew
2022-07-28 13:28
junior was a beast this season!
2022-07-28 15:34
sorry, but GOAT junior aren't think that
2022-07-27 23:14
the complexity one is really fucked up
2022-07-27 23:26
2 replies
how lol?
2022-07-27 23:37
#165
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Bulgaria Bulg1us
xd +1
2022-07-28 11:45
+1
2022-07-27 23:47
yeah with not finishing last place they will overachieve the next event!
2022-07-28 00:03
1 reply
Can't come last if you don't qualify 😎😎😎😎
2022-07-28 01:45
Lmfaoooo King_dempz you're a god not a king hahahaha
2022-07-28 00:26
#132
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Hong Kong Opekp
Cringe Bomb bug supporter
2022-07-28 05:06
SYRSONNNN
2022-07-27 22:59
2 replies
GODSON
2022-07-28 11:44
fluke
2022-07-30 13:31
#3
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Sweden frizzahh
Ok
2022-07-27 22:59
6 replies
Okay, but where are Movistar and EG
2022-07-27 23:09
5 replies
EG is not even a T1 team for all I am concerned, Movistar deserved a mention at least
2022-07-28 07:13
4 replies
Yet they made roster changes and expected a lot more than they got.
2022-07-28 08:05
EG is not even a team now
2022-07-28 11:44
EG definitely deserved a mention in the '' losers '' as well. They might the most underperforming team in rapport to their lineup
2022-07-28 12:04
1 reply
Not really, EG is just another T2 roster Cerq - washed since 2019 Stewie - do I even need to say something about this guy? Ruined himself besically Rush - was never good enough brehze - either bot frag or top frag from the time Ethan left CS Auti - eevryone had 0 expectations since he came from valorant but he is surprisingly still pretty good and not washed unlike everyone else on this team
2022-07-28 15:33
Oof at Complexity.
2022-07-27 23:01
1 reply
bro did complexity dirty man, holy shit
2022-07-28 04:21
"Complexity Need I say more?" SAVAGE
2022-07-27 23:01
13 replies
#30
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North America Camino
Writer chose violence lmfao
2022-07-27 23:08
11 replies
#45
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Brazil _Meehiell
its well deserve, not flaming or whatever its like a worst imperial, just have more loses
2022-07-27 23:15
9 replies
#50
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North America Camino
Oh yeah, this season was abysmal for us No excuses, at the start of the season, I thought this should have been a top 20 roster but they flopped every tournament
2022-07-27 23:16
7 replies
#52
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Brazil _Meehiell
i miss strongs NA teams for one reason: they beat the shitof br teams, and br teams become more strong and humble
2022-07-27 23:18
1 reply
#53
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North America Camino
YEKINDAR to Liquid could be promising, I'd like to see a real rivalry between FURIA and those guys next season
2022-07-27 23:19
At the start of the season I really didn’t like the junior signing but I thought about how there really isn’t any other better NA awpers but looking at it now there is no way there’s not a NA awper better than Junior
2022-07-27 23:20
4 replies
#59
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North America Camino
yepp Saw a report about junior being on transfer soon, looking forward to COL getting a more competent AWP player
2022-07-27 23:23
2 replies
#79
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Brazil _Meehiell
i guess cs is for old dudes in na cs nowdays...not a single young NA talent in years besides osee
2022-07-27 23:55
1 reply
most of them either went to valorant or straight up quit. If they choose to come back, na will have enough for atleast 2 competent teams again.
2022-07-28 01:41
Not gonna lie, any 3k elo awper would hit shots the likes of which junior misses every game.
2022-07-28 04:31
Thing is, Imperial are a bunch of veteran players who have actually won a lot of trophy's and 3 of them are in the last stage of their career while the col guys should be young, hungry and eager to win.
2022-07-28 00:51
They're kicking them when they are already down lol
2022-07-27 23:16
#65
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Bulgaria Kradeca_
+1 i laughed so hard reading this
2022-07-27 23:29
#6
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North America minte
Vitality worst off season of all time
2022-07-27 23:01
the complexity one was personal
2022-07-27 23:02
#9
God | 
Russia amc20
junior #1
2022-07-27 23:02
1 reply
+1 kick everyone except junior and build around him
2022-07-28 02:16
#10
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United States fl1ghtt
this thread is so fucking pointless why was it made
2022-07-27 23:03
1 reply
Because HLTV always does those between player breaks
2022-07-27 23:15
as a coL fan at least they are better than EG
2022-07-27 23:03
2 replies
Don't want to be rude, but that isn't exactly hard to accomplish lol
2022-07-27 23:17
Which one? Better than the main squad yeah, the EG.PA squad meanwhile... At this point i am not so sure
2022-07-28 00:53
Taking into account recent Cloud9 results, is Jack Etienne a winner or loser?
2022-07-27 23:03
3 replies
Just for 1m$ it's a big win obviously
2022-07-27 23:20
Not a big, but win. Only 1 mill $ for top 5 team + they won IEM Dallas.
2022-07-28 06:04
Considering they will only get better I'd say he wins. They will most likely be back in the top3 soon enough
2022-07-28 12:09
#14
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United States fl1ghtt
EG DIDNT EVEN MAKE LOSERSL IST AHHA HAA
2022-07-27 23:03
2 replies
#20
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Brazil Anarchybr
Lmao they weren’t even remembered
2022-07-27 23:04
+1
2022-07-28 12:09
BRO DESTROYED COL
2022-07-27 23:03
damn complexity getting roasted even in official news posts
2022-07-27 23:04
What is this? What about Navi? Performing under immense pressure, team drama, new player, yet still placed overall top 2 and contributed to what was the best finals ever.
2022-07-27 23:04
3 replies
NAVI didn't change anyone in the previous off-season, read the title
2022-07-27 23:04
2 replies
boombla? sdy?
2022-07-28 03:28
1 reply
NAVI didn't change anyone in the previous off-season, read the title
2022-07-28 08:15
The complexity part xddd
2022-07-27 23:04
Col section KEKW
2022-07-27 23:04
furia early 2022 is way better than furia late 2021 it's not because they had 2 really bad events that their whole 2022 is bad
2022-07-27 23:05
4 replies
+1 Furia played good (at least better than last year) on all big events, and dropped just on the less important ones. But NOOOOOO, lets remember ESL Valencia, a event that qualify to another event that Furia was already qualified.
2022-07-28 01:10
2 replies
It's hltv, where a single blast was enough to jump Navi above faze, that too in between the tournament was playing. Don't fret much, I think they'll make the playoffs of Rio major I think, they'll be working hard for that arena imo.
2022-07-28 09:00
1 reply
That bumping of NaVi to #1 in the middle of a tournament was absolutely WTF Zero sense
2022-07-28 12:11
#190
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Brazil Pajefps
Furia is now top 5 esl world ranking, its no sense put them on losers, and they put mouz on winners cause they were top 5/6 on cologne wtf
2022-07-28 19:21
#23
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Bangladesh ImpacT_
holy fuck hltv is ruthless with that col summary 💀
2022-07-27 23:05
ez for Paytyn Johnson
2022-07-27 23:06
#25
Nifty | 
Bahamas Jam18
JESUS DONT DO THAT TO COL my gosh that is brutal
2022-07-27 23:06
1 reply
#28
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North America Camino
LMFAO
2022-07-27 23:07
#26
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North America Camino
The shade on Complexity is incredible. Just the numbers LMFAOOOO Slam dunk by the writer here if they included EG
2022-07-27 23:07
1 reply
Just at the bottom there's a link to Evil Geniuses team page and nothing else
2022-07-28 02:07
Fnatic biggest loser of the last off-season
2022-07-27 23:07
I wouldn’t say OG were a loser, they had a good run with their new roster which is more than can be said for the previous iteration of OG. New mouz haven’t done made any deep runs with their new roster, they look marginally better.
2022-07-27 23:07
Movistar Riders?
2022-07-27 23:08
2 replies
Movistar isn't tier1 org
2022-07-27 23:22
read what the article says
2022-07-28 01:33
#32
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Complexity got fucking obliterated there. Brutal , savage, absolutely rekt by king_dempz
2022-07-27 23:08
complexity but not mentioning EG :( im sure that col boys are grinding
2022-07-27 23:08
1 reply
unfortunately dont think EG claimed to be the 2nd best NA team (even tho they should be)
2022-07-28 04:38
Mouz winners, Furia losers? Wtf, this some heavy recency bias
2022-07-27 23:10
complexity lmaooo
2022-07-27 23:10
Winners - Faze Losers - Navi
2022-07-27 23:11
3 replies
#62
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Latvia laiziolas
Yes, Faze number 1 Navi number 2 Very simple.
2022-07-27 23:28
faze and navi have a great half season
2022-07-28 06:20
1 reply
In the last season Faze won Katowice, the major and cologne.. the three biggest tourneys. What did mavi win? Lmao
2022-07-28 06:22
Just name a worse awper than junior in current tier-1 or tier-1.5 scene… even farlig is better than this pig
2022-07-27 23:12
complexity savage 💀💀💀💀
2022-07-27 23:14
surprised NIP wasn't on the list. Or maybe they're just expected to perform like lukewarm water
2022-07-27 23:14
3 replies
they didn't make a change going into 2022
2022-07-27 23:15
2 replies
brollan? lmao
2022-07-28 03:30
1 reply
he joined after katowice
2022-07-28 07:18
that must sting for complexity
2022-07-27 23:14
OOF for coL
2022-07-27 23:15
man it hurts
2022-07-27 23:21
CoL LMAO
2022-07-27 23:21
coL Ahahahahaha.
2022-07-27 23:23
#63
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North America barosielle
i like how they dont even mention EG
2022-07-27 23:28
1 reply
yeah EG sucks balls.
2022-07-28 14:00
This article is so badly written. Not worthy
2022-07-27 23:28
1 reply
Rare W
2022-07-28 09:28
Complexity xddd
2022-07-27 23:29
How on earth is OG among the losers? They already signed Slapster, how on earth is that a loss? Once again HLTV fail... as always
2022-07-27 23:30
8 replies
They made 3 changes since that off-season change this article relates to... In what world was the off-season change not a big loss?
2022-07-27 23:36
5 replies
Because i already said that they signed Slapster
2022-07-27 23:48
4 replies
That is not the change that makes them losers of the last off-season
2022-07-27 23:52
3 replies
it makes them the winner of last season because who knows what would happen if they didn't make any change maybe they wouldn't have signed degster by now. And yes i can see in the future what's gonna happen with Slapster on the team, big win right there in the future and the last off season... And yes i am above 500 iq if you wonder
2022-07-28 00:00
2 replies
#83
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El Salvador Bredalow
Hes saying that that is not a change they made during last off-season. The changes they made during last off season werent great thus they are losers of that off-season. The degster move is great so far but has nothing to do with last off-season
2022-07-28 00:11
1 reply
and how are u sure sure about that? How do you know that they would sign degster if they didnt make any changes for exmaple?
2022-07-28 00:12
Dogster kekw
2022-07-28 09:26
1 reply
hltv in disguise kekw
2022-07-28 09:42
Need I say more? ahahahahahhaha
2022-07-27 23:32
#69
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Bulgaria Kradeca_
i burst out laughing for 5min straight about complexity article. good job king_dempz
2022-07-27 23:32
MOUZ "winners" LOL they didn't even make it to the major
2022-07-27 23:41
I like how EG isn’t even mentioned in the artice, cuz everyone knows how utter shit they have been. It would be literal dead weight to write about it again.
2022-07-27 23:49
imagine hate junior
2022-07-27 23:51
Imperial biggest losers
2022-07-27 23:57
#82
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El Salvador Bredalow
King dempz total savage on complexity Great arcticle overall Only in the vitality part "is the mandate that Vitality as an have organisation set themselves." Should be fixed. Well done dempz
2022-07-28 00:08
1 reply
Good catch :)
2022-07-28 00:33
“The way I awp is the way I think the weapon should be played” - Paytyn ‘0.79’ Johnson
2022-07-28 00:20
#87
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Sweden Cveta
C OMEGALUL PLEXITY
2022-07-28 00:28
Why bulliyng CoL, HLTV
2022-07-28 00:29
HLTV bullying Complexity haha
2022-07-28 00:35
EG top #192 in da world COL > EG where is EG mention in this post?
2022-07-28 00:36
3 replies
EG was already a loser before 2022 season started.
2022-07-28 00:40
2 replies
just like they say in football form is temporary, class is permanent they already were losers before the 2022 season and continued to do it which shows their "class" and "consistency" so EG are bigger losers than COL and all the other orgs mentioned
2022-07-28 00:45
1 reply
Yes, they are the bigger losers but everyone knew they would be. It has been the case since 2021. The list mentions losers who all had very high expections due to bringing in the upgrades in the team to achieve something this year and clearly failed to do so. Basically, no one cared about eg from the start of the season but the losers mentioned in the article were actually meant to win something.
2022-07-28 00:56
oh nah they did complexity dirty United States Complexity Need I say more? Complexity Complexity #45 Lineup Age Rating CanadaJustin "FaNg" Coakley 20 0.99 United StatesRicky "floppy" Kemery 22 0.97 United StatesMichael "Grim" Wince 21 0.83 South AfricaJohnny "JT" Theodosiou 23 0.81 United StatesPaytyn "junior" Johnson 21 0.79 Offline placings in the last three months Placement Event 13-16th IEM Cologne 2022 Play-In 5-8th Global Esports Tour Dubai 2022 13-16th IEM Dallas 2022 12-14th PGL Major Antwerp 2022 Challengers Stage
2022-07-28 00:40
That COL part is going into the meme archives lmao
2022-07-28 00:50
Mouz winners xaxa
2022-07-28 00:50
MOUZ winners? they had like one decent tier 1 tournament finish which could very well be a fluke. they're only winners if you consider them a tier 2 team with tier 2 ambitions
2022-07-28 00:51
If i wrote this thread it will get 404
2022-07-28 00:52
That CoL part made me laugh, sorry...
2022-07-28 01:06
COL hasn't peaked yet, give them time!
2022-07-28 01:11
#106
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Brazil bugesy
The losers Furia KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
2022-07-28 01:16
2 replies
what?
2022-07-28 04:12
1 reply
#131
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Brazil bugesy
2022-07-28 04:48
col lmaooooo
2022-07-28 01:27
THAT COL PART KILLS MENS XD
2022-07-28 02:42
FaZe = go thank putin
2022-07-28 02:43
1 reply
"you invade ukraine and ill give you this monkey and 50 FaZe winners of Eleague 2018 major tshirts" FaZe Banks, probably
2022-07-28 03:49
online only big, what a winner sure..
2022-07-28 03:13
EG are by far the biggest losers of the season and they don't make the list??? Bad article
2022-07-28 03:42
1 reply
yes, that's how much of a loser they were
2022-07-28 04:13
"Need I say more?" bruhhhh
2022-07-28 03:43
#124
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Canada Lachance
No EG?
2022-07-28 03:54
Good luck to G2 team!!
2022-07-28 04:09
Riders winners too
2022-07-28 05:43
CoL: “Need I say more!” 😂😂😂😂
2022-07-28 06:14
Faze : thanks mister putin for war to ukraine and early 2022 navi mental ruined after that
2022-07-28 06:22
Man, you didn't have to hit them when they were on the ground :(
2022-07-28 06:25
coL be like after reading that: "EMOTIONAL DAMAGE"
2022-07-28 08:13
Complexity savage xdd
2022-07-28 08:16
#147
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Brazil hugoooo
I love how coL got HUMILIATED like in a way that HLTV staff never did before with any team/player
2022-07-28 08:16
i think complexity is underperforming hard. when they assembled i felt like they could even be the best NA team but what they actually showed was embarrassing. floppy & grim are better than that.
2022-07-28 08:16
man didnt even make an effort to mention EG thats how down bad they are lmao
2022-07-28 08:21
Mouz winners lol
2022-07-28 09:14
#152
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Italy MulaManca
that complexity part was entirely outta pocket lol
2022-07-28 09:16
#153
b1t | 
India Mr_UNX
Complexity went from juggernaut to bugs
2022-07-28 09:17
#154
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Germany Jonaah
Col haha
2022-07-28 09:24
#159
ropz | 
Finland wormi
col rekt
2022-07-28 10:18
col xd
2022-07-28 10:18
complexity hahahaaaha
2022-07-28 10:39
#162
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Portugal dracø
"United States Complexity Need I say more?" LMAOOOOOO, gut punch HLTV, wp wp
2022-07-28 10:58
EG winners
2022-07-28 11:57
complexity XD brutal, savage, rekt
2022-07-28 12:12
BIG??? IS THAT A JOKE??
2022-07-28 12:22
Complexity KEKW
2022-07-28 12:24
junior goat
2022-07-28 12:32
g2 kkkk
2022-07-28 13:02
lmao I haven't seen such toxic word towards a team for long(yes it's col). But fuck it.I like this article,especially the part I mentioned above.
2022-07-28 13:55
Lol Nip?
2022-07-28 14:06
#184
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Russia HikZ
Col xddd
2022-07-28 14:53
CoL got roasted like anakin in mustafar damn
2022-07-28 15:10
Need I say more?
2022-07-28 18:15
How is cloud9 not a winner?? They won their first lan trophy this year even though they have been on top for a long ass time
2022-07-28 20:09
where is nip,heroic,cloud9
2022-07-28 20:22
nearly laughed out loud in a class lecture at the complexity stats. RIP to poor jason lake's credibility after this shitshow. once again, junior should be NOWHERE near tier 1, and probably not even tier 2.
2022-07-29 01:12
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