Expert take: kassad and Mauisnake defend jks' move to G2

A former teammate of Justin "⁠jks⁠" Savage and a respected analyst come in support of the Australian's reported move to G2 in our latest Expert take.

jks' reported move to G2 has been the talk of the town for the past few days, and the opinions are somewhat mixed.

Many fans are happy for the Australian to land a team, and a big one at that, more than eight months since the old Complexity squad disbanded. After all, he showed in his stand-in stint with FaZe at IEM Katowice that there's still plenty he has to offer, helping Finn "⁠karrigan⁠" Andersen's side kick off their successful seasonal run with a superb showing across two different roles.

Others have voiced concerns over whether jks is a good fit, worrying that he might end up being tasked with a Terrorist role in which he is not entirely comfortable given the pieces that are already on G2Nemanja "⁠huNter-⁠" Kovač and Nikola "⁠NiKo⁠" Kovač in particular. Comparisons have been drawn to the situation jks found himself in Complexity, where he struggled with consistency when there was an evident role clash between him and Benjamin "⁠blameF⁠" Bremer.

Personally, I am curious to see how G2 will solve the puzzle with their three star riflers, but I have my doubts, not so much because of positions on the map but rather their playstyle and the potential lack of space and an offset balance of aggression.

Even back when NiKo first joined G2 he and huNter- had to move around to solve the fact that they both like to do similar things and require a lot of space when working around the map to find picks. The former admittedly is a much more aggressive player in general and that helped solve the equation, but with jks they get another player who has typically done best in positions where he closes rounds as the more passive lurker, which makes me wonder whether there is enough space to go around for the trio for G2 to be functional in mid-to-late-round scenarios.

But after seeing a few other key people in the scene talk about the issue and argue why this combination could actually work, I'm beginning to see the light. Alex "⁠Mauisnake⁠" Ellenberg and Aleksandar "⁠kassad⁠" Trifunović — the latter being a former coach of jks from the Renegades and 100 Thieves times, of course — had a brief discussion on Twitter where they shared a different viewpoint, with the American analyst saying role clashes are being overstated by the community and the Serbian coach even going as far as to argue that there are none. G2's coach, Rémy "⁠XTQZZZ⁠" Quoniam, stepped in as well to say huNter-'s best positions aren't the lurky ones he has fulfilled in recent times, suggesting jks might just get what he is best at.

To get a better idea of what Mauisnake and kassad were talking about, I asked them both to elaborate on what their thoughts are on how good of a fit jks is in this new G2, which will also reportedly include Rasmus "⁠HooXi⁠" Nielsen as the new in-game leader replacing Aleksi "⁠Aleksib⁠" Virolainen.

kassad: "Getting jks is probably the best move G2 could make at this moment"

kassad, who spent nearly three years standing behind jks as the coach and also played with NiKo in 2013 and coached him as well as huNter- in two different teams in 2016, didn't waste a moment to praise the addition. He touted it as "the best move G2 could make at this moment" and pointed out that he expects his former pupil to get nearly all the positions he likes on both sides.

"Their CT sides have been struggling on anchor positions and jks is playing that by nature, so it will fit in almost perfectly," the Serbian began. "Aside from his individual aiming/mechanic skills, Justin is very solid with utility and can take a secondary AWP, so having somebody versatile and reliable on for example A site Mirage will free up NiKo/m0NESY much more, especially in mid-to-late-round rotations."

"When it comes to T sides, I expect that jks gets all of his natural closer/lurking roles where he is at his best. The FaZe stint where he had to replace rain shouldn't be considered at all, and if you want the best version of jks you will put him in his natural positions."

kassad concluded his opinion by addressing where this will leave the entry position in G2 and the chemistry: "All this leaves the gap in the entry role, and I believe that it will most likely shift into the hands of whoever is the new IGL. It's the only way to do it with a lineup like this and it is not uncommon nowadays. The final aspect is the personality match, and knowing Justin for over five years and NiKo/huNter- for close to 15 there shouldn't be any problems in that area."

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Mauisnake: "G2 now has a true finisher on the rifle side"

Mauisnake took a slightly different approach, looking back at the way jks was used in the Renegades/100 Thieves team and explaining that in set plays he wasn't the typical lurker.

"jks was at the peak of his powers in 2019 while playing with Renegades which turned into 100 Thieves. The T-side calling of AZR and Renegades during that period involved many set piece type plays with a sprinkling in of layered map control procedures that led to bombsite pinches. This wasn't a team that was looking to default for 15 rounds straight on the offense," Mauisnake argues. "jks was frequently in the back for these plays throwing utility to set up jkaem, the designated space taker for this team. jks was frequently allowed to run in second behind Liazz on executes, although spawn-based calls could occasionally lead to jks running in first (it's based on whoever has the spawn, duh)."

"To concisely sum up jks' role on the T side, he was the closer. In the iteration of G2 we've been witnessing through 2022, I don't know who was supposed to be the closer. The most memorable clutches from this team were off the back of m0NESY's heroics, but G2 now has a true finisher on the rifle side."

Mauisnake comes in support of the jks move

Mauisnake offered a wider viewpoint on where HooXi will fit in at the helm and analyzed the Dane's leading style in Copenhagen Flames, before tying it back in with how he sees the in-game leader developing a similar dynamic in the new G2 team.

"One of the reasons I liked HooXi's induction into this lineup is that he doesn't overcomplicate T sides and he gives players their own autonomy. When I first watched HooXi's CPH Flames games, I was appalled at HooXi attempting to put himself in blameF-type positions, mimicking strategies from the 2020 Complexity. What he quickly realized was that he wasn't individually cut out for those positions, so he began to use himself more like karrigan does today, taking space and throwing his body to the wolves so his huNters can find the trades."

"I imagine this same sort of dynamic playing out on G2's new offense, where players like NiKo, jks, and huNter- can work behind a leader that understands his limitations and position in the pecking order. HooXi will attempt to take the first bite of the opponents, but it will be his stars who end up feasting."


Reports claim G2 submitted jks and HooXi in place of Audric "⁠JACKZ⁠" Jug and Aleksib for the first tournament following the off-season, the BLAST Premier Fall Groups, and should that be confirmed the new G2 will debut at the event in Copenhagen from August 19-28. We should then get some early answers on how these new pieces will work together in just a few weeks' time and if this is the combination that will finally get G2 some trophies after a long title-less drought.

Where do you stand on the changes? Is jks a good fit, or bad?

United States Alex 'Mauisnake' Ellenberg
Alex 'Mauisnake' Ellenberg
Age:
29
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.90
Maps played:
100
KPR:
0.63
DPR:
0.72
Bosnia and Herzegovina Nemanja 'huNter-' Kovač
Nemanja 'huNter-' Kovač
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.12
Maps played:
1467
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.67
Australia Justin 'jks' Savage
Justin 'jks' Savage
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
1181
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.63
Denmark Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
Age:
32
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.91
Maps played:
2021
KPR:
0.62
DPR:
0.69
Denmark Rasmus 'HooXi' Nielsen
Rasmus 'HooXi' Nielsen
Age:
27
Rating 1.0:
0.87
Maps played:
798
KPR:
0.58
DPR:
0.69
Finland Aleksi 'Aleksib' Virolainen
Aleksi 'Aleksib' Virolainen
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.96
Maps played:
1032
KPR:
0.64
DPR:
0.65
Serbia Aleksandar 'kassad' Trifunović
Aleksandar 'kassad' Trifunović
Age:
35
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.75
Maps played:
99
KPR:
0.52
DPR:
0.73
France Audric 'JACKZ' Jug
Audric 'JACKZ' Jug
Age:
30
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
1089
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.67
Denmark Benjamin 'blameF' Bremer
Benjamin 'blameF' Bremer
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.15
Maps played:
884
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.61
Bosnia and Herzegovina Nikola 'NiKo' Kovač
Nikola 'NiKo' Kovač
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.15
Maps played:
1625
KPR:
0.80
DPR:
0.67
France Rémy 'XTQZZZ' Quoniam
Rémy 'XTQZZZ' Quoniam
Age:
33
Team:
Nice
2022-07-30 12:50
Noice
2022-07-30 12:50
Nice
2022-07-30 12:50
They still won't win anything
2022-07-30 12:50
1 reply
+1
2022-07-30 23:49
lol
2022-07-30 12:52
#11
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
LOL stop reading hltv, no one with a brain think jks was a bad move
2022-07-30 12:57
18 replies
Yeah but that’s why a post about it is definitely needed
2022-07-30 13:00
2 replies
#21
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
Wont change anything, but Ig.
2022-07-30 13:01
#64
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Norway Snaids
+1 getting tired of reading "hooxi bad rating" over and over
2022-07-30 14:22
#28
NiKo | 
India RycerZ
I think it's an alternate to stop users from making G2 threads lol.
2022-07-30 13:12
8 replies
#29
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
hopefully considering every single thread is the same braindead take saying hooxi has low rating so g2 cant win. and jks is a lurk why add him both awful takes
2022-07-30 13:13
7 replies
#31
NiKo | 
India RycerZ
True. I think this is best version of G2 we will have.
2022-07-30 13:15
6 replies
-1 G2's French Superteam was so much better than current G2 tbh
2022-07-30 15:22
4 replies
#137
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France andyj
The results of G2 Superteam was the best rendition of G2 CSGO, for sure, however on paper the current roster is the best the org has had
2022-07-31 00:22
3 replies
I mean, in terms of names maybe, but it's far from being the most succesful, G2 without NiKo were far more consistent and the roster with aleksib reached the same amount of grand finals appearences than 2019's G2 with kenny, shox, jackz, amanek/bodyy and lucky lol. I would even say that 2019's G2 was more of a team than 2020-2021-2022's G2 in terms of how they used to play
2022-07-31 00:36
2 replies
#140
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France andyj
2019 CS Meta was also much different, current CS doesn't have hard roles outside of IGL and AWP, whereas previously (even 2019) we still saw players dedicated to Lurking and Entrying
2022-07-31 00:45
I mean 2021 G2 was one of the most successful teams, doesn't matter if they "play like a team"
2022-07-31 00:45
wait this is hltv
2022-07-30 15:51
1 reply
hmmmm
2022-07-30 20:31
no one on hltv has a brain
2022-07-30 22:16
1 reply
#134
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
99% dont thats for sure. (myself included)
2022-07-30 22:25
Jks bad move. HooXi is old. He's nowhere near Karrigans level nor experience. Gla1ve played with many IGLs before becoming IGL himself. But we'll see, time will tell. He can be a hidden gem just like Gla1ve.
2022-07-31 00:00
+1
2022-08-01 00:16
Does kassad really expect that niko and hunter will give up space to set jks up? He knows jks the best out of all analysts probably but on the other hand he is very biased and delusional. I dont see this team functioning on the t side
2022-07-30 12:57
4 replies
#32
NiKo | 
India RycerZ
Why not, it was Jackz or Aleksib followed by Niko mostly. So it will be Hooxi going in followed by Niko and then Hunter probably. JKS obviously gonna take lurk roles from hunter. Which mean hunter going back to old role, kinda trading Niko and Hooxi.
2022-07-30 13:18
3 replies
literally a noob version of karrigan IGL plan
2022-07-30 16:01
1 reply
#96
NiKo | 
India RycerZ
Might work, only time would tell.
2022-07-30 16:50
#123
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United States DarkFX
I want an interview from Alexsib and hear his thoughts on these changes. Maybe its too early for him to start talking the truth but i am very interested in Alexsib's truth about his time in G2
2022-07-30 20:14
So hunter wasn't even in his best position all along? I thought he was great
2022-07-30 12:57
JUSTIN SAVAGE
2022-07-30 12:59
after winning katowice with faze everyone wanted jks to join t1 team and now when the move is acctually on the cards people are questioning his ability to play in such team xD
2022-07-30 13:09
3 replies
#49
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Australia sh4ww
+1
2022-07-30 13:38
#79
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India _Key
+1
2022-07-30 15:28
+1 people on here really do lack mental capacity
2022-07-31 02:34
Also "...taking space and throwing his body to the wolves so his huNters can find the trades." Don't, please -_-
2022-07-30 13:09
6 replies
#35
NiKo | 
India RycerZ
It is what it is xD. Kinda Karrigan style.
2022-07-30 13:19
5 replies
I was talking about that unnecessary "huNters" take
2022-07-30 13:34
4 replies
yes, ur 14, we get it bro
2022-07-30 20:31
3 replies
no, the writer seems like 14, thats the point
2022-08-01 01:20
2 replies
I believe this was quotation of Mauisnake, not an author's statement
2022-08-08 16:15
1 reply
Looking at it now, you seem to be right.
2022-08-08 16:18
#26
shox | 
Poland l1m4k
Defo good change
2022-07-30 13:09
expected
2022-07-30 13:27
Who's gonna entry?
2022-07-30 13:28
5 replies
#47
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Serbia biTe19
i guess NiKo or Hooxi
2022-07-30 13:37
3 replies
U do want Niko at later stage of the round.
2022-07-30 14:14
2 replies
atm Hunter does more kills than him. And Electronic does entry also on some maps and that is a player you want also later in the match. So if Niko doesn't do entry cuz u want him later means G2 team sucks.
2022-07-30 15:58
1 reply
All of your points are wrong, congratulations Hunter does not have more kills than Niko Even if he did on short period of time, Niko has proven to have the skill to be the second best player in the world, hunter has not. So obviously G2 should try to unlock Niko potential. Electronic has always been the entry or one of the entries. He just also seems so good at late rounds because he is so good. If any team put niko like player to hard entry position is team doomed on failing. So even your last point is wrong.
2022-08-01 01:25
I guess Hooxi gonna be the Entry fragger and NiKo/hunter will need to play as support
2022-07-30 15:47
Gigachad take
2022-07-30 13:39
so Complexity jks < G2 jks < Renegades jks???
2022-07-30 13:41
1 reply
for sure, no way he will be worse than he was in coL, and no way he will be better than he was in renegades
2022-07-30 17:00
Jks is fine, problem is hooxi :)
2022-07-30 13:42
i mean there was no alternative, changes had to be made, in G2's shoes the only wrong decision is not doing anything
2022-07-30 13:47
kassad deserves a GM in a org , saw him on a podcast and he has very nice takes and he knows how to adress stuff that is kinda off limits here (device and NIP) , also making very- reasonable takes like this one +1
2022-07-30 13:47
#58
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India skyl4rk
What's to defend here? Try defending the hooxi move
2022-07-30 13:48
Please tell The Experts that while their input is appreciated as always, no one is questioning the jks move
2022-07-30 13:50
#61
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Andorra mopGOD420
the only part i am not sure of is m0nesy being in charge of the whole squad
2022-07-30 14:00
#65
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Norway Snaids
Ty mauisnake!
2022-07-30 14:22
The biggest difference jks gonna make is communication, the language. native language , he can explain the strats easily to everyone. I want him be an IGL for G2
2022-07-30 15:26
g2 can only succeed if Niko plays well, which isnt a given anymore. He plays quite shit sometimes. I'm an expert and I think jks move is over hyped, but they could have done worse. Either way they saved his career lol, he doesnt even have to do well coz worst case scenario he sits on bench while getting paid again.
2022-07-30 15:28
Plot twist: Jks will play like he did in CoL. I hope not so tho. But wtf is this Hooxi signing? Still cant get over it...
2022-07-30 15:29
NiKo will not play in shitty position, m0nesy T side awping is shit, JKS is a closer, Hooxi will be playing like a decoy, and I doubt that his aim can best anyone in Tier 1 scene. I assume the role on T side will be Niko - support M0nesy - Awper JKS - closer/ passive lurker Hunter - Second Entry Hooxi - Entry I just don't see this roster working at all, same as what I thought on the previous roster, I think the previous roster failed because of personality aspects more than in-game aspect The best iteration of G2 roster is still Amanek, Nexa, Hunter, Jackz and Kenny where they show dominance in some event, not perfect but it is the most promising one in recenet years
2022-07-30 15:46
1 reply
' They was major finalists and many toirnaments was so close and was top 2-3 team idk why they risked. Now they even worse. But niko just wnna kick if do t work fasr knstead of working like karrigan and instead of kicking trying to make players better.
2022-07-30 20:18
Good take, can definitely work as long as Hooxi figures out his hard entry style. The grizzly vet JKS can work with how Niko operates on T side. Hunter trades with Hooxi. Let Monsey do Monsey things. To say Hooxi doesn't over complicate T side is a testament of a stable roster tho
2022-07-30 16:19
#94
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Netherlands 4huisman
I believe 😭😭
2022-07-30 16:42
This will put hltv brains drama to rest lol
2022-07-30 17:15
#104
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Poland SebL
I like the roster, if HooXi can be the karrigan-style of player I really like this lineup, finally a good anchor in jks, overall a really solid move imo.
2022-07-30 17:36
#108
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Brazil davidzor
Mauisnake always have bad takes.
2022-07-30 18:03
jks is good move but no one can defend HooXi move xD
2022-07-30 18:33
Both HooXi and JKS are wonderful moves =D
2022-07-30 18:54
' They was major finalists and many toirnaments was so close and was top 2-3 team idk why they risked. Now they even worse. But niko just wnna kick if do t work fasr knstead of working hard
2022-07-30 20:19
no one thinks jks-to-G2 is a bad move. what with this thread? people should be talking about hooxi-to-G2. now that's a f*cking joke
2022-07-30 20:47
why are people talking and defending jks? the problem is hooxi and niko, expert arent expert or what are they smoking ?
2022-07-30 21:35
Hltv have really been busy with deleting comments. From 500 ish comments down to this? Hltv might give Twitter a run for their money when it comes to running a propaganda platform xd
2022-07-30 21:35
I guess the question isnt really "is there going to be a problem with jks joining?" But more like, is jks and Hooxi or whoever joins be the ones to make G2 into a title winning team. I have my doubts.
2022-07-30 22:05
4 replies
hooxi made pretty much 4 unknown danish players qualify for TWO Majors, with one deep run into groupstage, if that's not remarkable? Jks that is a very intelligent player maybe gets the role he is best at as they stated in the article. Stepped in for Faze and won iem katowice I don't have any doubts that they could be a title winning team, it's def possible. Fells like hooxi and jks is a great piece of the pussle and Niko, Hunter and m0NESY is just really insane players right? I do think that this is gonna be a really insane team. And honestly i think this is the setup that will give cursed niko his Major win finally. I would feel sad for him to end his career without a major win and it would feel very wrong if he didn't
2022-07-30 22:28
3 replies
You have exactly the point there "4 unknown DANISH players" Why do we expect him to perform any time soon which is basically his first international team ever?
2022-08-01 01:27
2 replies
"You have exactly the point there "4 unknown DANISH players"" "Why do we expect him to perform any time soon which is basically his first international team ever?" you are talking against yourself, he already showed that he performed if he was tactically able to make these guys qualify for the major two times and improving for each one, he must have done something right. If you take 4 of the best players in the world and put a shitty igl on the team that has more k/d than hooxi, it doesn't mean that they will perform better as a team
2022-08-01 07:55
1 reply
My point was that the language will be an issue. Its not easy to call in english if one has never done that, even if one is fluent in english otherwise. It will take some time.
2022-08-01 09:43
“… throwing his body to the wolves so his huNters can find the trades." Expert Maui word play. Are you not entertained.
2022-07-31 00:35
#143
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Poland csRIOTgo
Pretty sure Niko/Hunter would've got good words from kassad on how to use jks etc before bringing him in! Given they are friends IRL esp kassad and Niko. No doubt hopefully we get to see prime jks in g2 again
2022-07-31 04:11
#144
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United States beekatt
As a G2 fan, I'm... hopeful? I can definitely see a world where this works and everyone slots in together perfectly. I don't know any more than the average guy about jks, and I can't say I know much about hooxi, but these last few roster moves have felt like "let's get someone with more firepower, and find whatever new IGL we can"
2022-07-31 04:24
They didn't really have a choice in the matter and on paper, it's a solid move, that much is agreeable.
2022-07-31 04:34
> mauisnake > expert Choose one
2022-07-31 09:24
Experts, LUL
2022-07-31 09:30
I’m sure jks is happy with the paycheck. And I’m sure G2 is happy with a better player than jackz. But this is not going to change their results much imo.
2022-07-31 10:41
expert kekw
2022-07-31 12:20
NIko is the consistent factor on teams that can't close out grand finals, Great on paper, bad mental - and that team will struggle as long as he's on it. That is unless he decides to stop thinking he's the best player and fill a role for once. Whenever they start losing, he just tries to put the team on his back, force fights - and inevitably loses.
2022-08-01 00:22
I mean why is everyone saying there is entry problem in G2 when Niko is one of the best entry fraggers atm, maybe people don't want to call him an entry but he kinda is (hltv.org/stats/players/openingkills?star..). Going in first on executes can be an igl but Niko is entry for this squad and has been for this whole year, M0nesy is also agressive with AWP so only problem can be between Hunter and Jks on T side but i think if Faze could've make it with i will say 4 stars (including Rain cuz he is playing like a monster) G2 can do it as well i think
2022-08-01 03:29
Ty experts now we are fully aware
2022-08-01 11:56
"expert" take who tf are these nonames? xD
2022-08-12 01:21
1 reply
Maui’s done a major. They have both done Katowice.
2022-08-12 03:51
Maui and kassad should have a podcast together. No punches held. Call it The Alek and Alex Show. Serbia and Hawaii, 8,000 miles apart but they go head to head.
2022-08-12 03:48
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