What are CS:GO's easiest and hardest T-sided positions?

After our initial look at how CT positions affect rating, it's time to take the same analysis to the offensive half.

In our first, CT-focussed article on this topic, we tried to evaluate just how much a player's position affects their rating. In doing so, it allowed for fairer comparisons between players; CT positions correlate with how many resources a team gives to a player, rather than treating an AWPer and support player equally.

This showed up in the stats, as expected. To take an extreme example, the average rating for a B anchor on Mirage was 0.96, while the short player averaged 1.17 and the connector player 1.22. AWPer spots and rotator spots both out-performed anchor positions on the whole, confirming the eye test.

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What are CS:GO's easiest and hardest CT positions?

What about T-sides? Can we really achieve the same level of confidence in those assertions? 'Positions' are not as clear-cut on attack. In-game leaders are free to go away from the default at any point, taking players away from their 'position' to a completely different place on the map. Players' 'positions' (their literal spot on the map, such as being the team's primary mid-brawler on Mirage) may correlate with their 'role' (entry-fragger, lurker, etc.), but causation is harder to prove.

Team composition is fairly consistent for much of the top 20: A star (passive) AWPer, an entry pack consisting of an aggressive star and the IGL, a halfway-house aggressive lurker, and a fully-fledged passive lurker to round it out. Take prime Astralis as an example: Nicolai "⁠device⁠" Reedtz on the AWP, Lukas "⁠gla1ve⁠" Rossander and Peter "⁠dupreeh⁠" Rasmussen hunting for map control, Emil "⁠Magisk⁠" Reif switching between the pack and his 'half-lurk,' with Andreas "⁠Xyp9x⁠" Højsleth on the extremities.

Yet once a team has their AWPer also calling the shots, like in Heroic, Outsiders, or Imperial, that structure is immediately void. The same is true for a team that diverts from the meta in placing their IGL away from the entry pack, or a team like BIG, where in-game leader Johannes "⁠tabseN⁠" Wodarz is in the entry pack but taking far more resources than someone like Finn "⁠karrigan⁠" Andersen would.

Astralis' 2018-2020 side had perfect role balance

Stepping away from IGLs, the division of resources can be different even within the 'Astralis' team composition. Lurkers like Robin "⁠ropz⁠" Kool or Keith "⁠NAF⁠" Markovic are set up to succeed far more than the more supportive Xyp9x was for Astralis, despite them all occupying the same 'spot' in most defaults.

This is all to say: Take the following with a heavy pinch of salt. Yet, there is still value to be found. Most modern Counter-Strike teams start nearly every round with a default. Players go to their nominated 'spot' in more than half the rounds of an average T-side. The standard deviation for CT positions was 0.154, while on T-side it is actually lower at 0.139. This means that players are, on average, closer to the mean for their spot on T-side than CT-side.

The first thing to note when we look at the highest and lowest-rated positions is just how much lower the ratings are. A 0.96 rating on B site Mirage, on the CT-side, is par for the course, which is the same figure as the median ratings for lurking T-side in lobby on Nuke or B site on Overpass (the 14th and 15th highest positions out of 35). The CT-sided meta means we need to adjust our expectations when it comes to rating. Average is no longer 1.00 on T-side, it is 0.95.

The five T-side positions with the highest median rating, and the five lowest

The AWPer on Dust2 is the ultimate outlier with a median rating of 1.13, just 0.02 below its CT-side average of 1.15. Dust2 appears again among the highest-rated with a pack rifler, the player that defaults around lower-B tunnels. This establishes a trend for most maps, where the two different 'pack' positions in a default have a wide disparity in rating.

Dust2 is a good example. One player throws flashes from the top of mid while their pack partner is more active in hunting for picks from the lower tunnels. This same trend is visible in the box plot below (which includes all seven maps), where pack riflers have high peaks but the lowest troughs.

Dust2 illustrates another point well with long appearing as the second worst-rated position on T-side. Generally a passive lurk spot where long players hold for pushes from car, they often have to turn into entry-fraggers when the call to take long control is made in the mid-round.

This leaves players like Audric "⁠JACKZ⁠" Jug having to transition from being in a boring, low-action position, into a very low-percentage fight out of the long doors where the main hope is just to be traded. Of course, Dust2's early round is dictated by spawns more than any other map, which takes positions and roles out of the equation somewhat, but the point remains.

This is a case in which opening kill attempts (a player's first kills + their first deaths) do not perfectly reflect entry-fragging, but that particular stat remains far better at showing aggression within the default than any other metric. Take this scatterplot, which plots a position's rating against its opening kill attempts.

This chart plots opening kill attempts against rating to show which are the positions that offer both aggression and high fragging

Positions like outside on Nuke, A-ramp on Vertigo, and banana on Inferno occupy the top-right zone of the chart, scoring highly in average rating and average opening kill attempts. Players who occupy these roles dictate the pace of the round, an extreme example being how Vladislav "⁠nafany⁠" Gorshkov engages Cloud9 in a passive default while he prowls the smokes on the A-ramp of Vertigo.

The only non-pack position to crop up here is the mid-brawler on Ancient, which is borderline by definition. Because of how Ancient works, the player here often ends up aggressively lurking around red, so it would be wrong to call it a 'pack' position even with these players taking 25% of their team's opening duels. Think of how players like Kristian "⁠k0nfig⁠" Wienecke, Lotan "⁠Spinx⁠" Giladi, Andrei "⁠arT⁠" Piovezan, or Robert "⁠Patsi⁠" Isyanov operate in that particular area, and it's easy to see why this spot occupies the top-right of the chart.

Other spots with murky definitions include connector on Overpass and boiler on Inferno. The 'pack' generally operates around A toilets and banana at the start of the round, respectively, but these positions — a bit like a premium version of long on Dust2 —, are primed to become entry-fragging spots if needed. This is why you see 'pack' players like Håvard "⁠rain⁠" Nygaard and dupreeh here in defaults, generally still being the first point of contact fairly often. A prime example is how quickly rain can turn his boiler lurk into an entry route up short on Inferno.


All-star lineups

Like in the CT-side edition of this article, we'll now delve into some all-star teams for each map. As before, the only requirement is the highest-rated player in each spot against top 30 opposition on LAN among our 18 chosen teams so far this year. This means that we might not have an IGL in every team, but this is the only fair way to do it — just choosing the highest-rated IGL misses the point of how an IGL delivers value to their team. These sides are more like PUG teams, except everyone is comfortable in their default position.

Where better to start than the ultimate PUG map of Mirage. Our extremity players are NAF on A and Russel "⁠Twistzz⁠" Van Dulken on B/underpass, while our AWPer is of course Aleksandr "⁠s1mple⁠" Kostyliev. Taking map control are Hampus "⁠hampus⁠" Poser and Ludvig "⁠Brollan⁠" Brolin, the Ninjas in Pyjamas duo both far exceeding the average rating for their difficult spots.

s1mple reprises his role on Inferno, but the lineup still includes several surprises. Evgenii "⁠FL1T⁠" Lebedev and Alexey "⁠Qikert⁠" Golubev stand out here for their fairly low ratings, which shows just how difficult this map can be in some roles.

When we adjust to measure ratings against top 10 opposition, FL1T keeps his slot in apartments, jumping to a 1.11 rating. Qikert, meanwhile, drops to third behind Dan "⁠apEX⁠" Madesclaire (0.92) and Rasmus "⁠sjuush⁠" Beck (0.89).

Jonathan "⁠EliGE⁠" Jablonowski and Martin "⁠stavn⁠" Lund are bigger names in boiler and banana, though it is still a surprise to not see one of Nemanja "⁠huNter-⁠" Kovač (1.07) or Nikola "⁠NiKo⁠" Kovač (1.22).

ropz takes the B-lurk role on Overpass over the likes of Magisk (tied at 1.11 rating but with fewer maps) and Benjamin "⁠blameF⁠" Bremer (1.08), while EliGE occupies connector as our aggressive lurker. stavn takes the roamer position, which is often taken by IGLs, and Brollan is our primary space-taker. s1mple needs no explanation.

s1mple makes it four out of four on Nuke, joined by his Natus Vincere teammate and right-hand man Denis "⁠electroNic⁠" Sharipov as the space-taking outside defaulter. It is René "⁠TeSeS⁠" Madsen, rather than stavn, who takes the traditional IGL float position, with Nuke specialist Josef "⁠faveN⁠" Baumann in squeaky and silo.

Aurimas "⁠Bymas⁠" Pipiras makes a shock appearance over the likes of Valeriy "⁠b1t⁠" Vakhovskiy, ropz, Spinx, and blameF in lobby with a 1.21 rating against top 30 opposition and an even higher 1.32 rating with the top 10 filter. That 1.21 rating makes him the third-highest Nuke player on T-side regardless of role, only behind s1mple and Mathieu "⁠ZywOo⁠" Herbaut.

s1mple finally drops out of the team on NAVI's permaban, Vertigo, only to be replaced by ZywOo. The Frenchman breaks from the norm with 29% opening kill attempts on the map and is Vitality's primary opener on Vertigo, normally doing so from the bottom of the A ramp.

Joining him around A are Yuri "⁠yuurih⁠" Santos, who puts up a 1.25 rating on the map supporting arT on ramp, and Fredrik "⁠REZ⁠" Sterner, who swaps ramp duties with hampus. Sergey "⁠Ax1Le⁠" Rykhtorov is an expert around B on both T and CT, while Spinx puts up a 1.44 rating as our mid defaulter and late-round closer.

Spinx appears once more on Ancient, showcasing his versatility in the nominally far more aggressive lurk role of mid-brawler. While his 26% opening kill attempts are lower than k0nfig (33%), electroNic (32%), and Patsi (32%), it is still above average and he is unafraid of the odd spawn-based charge into middle.

blameF, another lurker, occupies an aggressive role on Ancient around B cave. Compared to rain (29%), nafany (30%), and Alejandro "⁠mopoz⁠" Fernández-Quejo Cano (28%), blameF (19%) is far more measured, although he makes up for that in rating.

Dmitry "⁠sh1ro⁠" Sokolov makes his debut on Ancient, which is the lowest-performing map for AWPers with a 0.86 median. He joins Ax1Le, who denies b1t (1.11) once more, while the squad is rounded out by Boris "⁠magixx⁠" Vorobiev. The Spirit rifler, like Bymas and FL1T, makes a surprise appearance, backed up by performances averaging a 1.12 rating against top 10 opposition.

Finally, Dust2 is made up of a fitting, fully Russian-speaking lineup of all-stars. sh1ro, who beats out s1mple by 0.01 rating, and Ax1Le reprise their roles from Ancient as A-lurk and AWPer. electroNic and Mareks "⁠YEKINDAR⁠" Gaļinskis join them as the two space-takers around middle and catwalk.

The final spot goes to Ilya "⁠Perfecto⁠" Zalutskiy as the B tunnels lurker, adding a more conservative supportive player (with just 9.4% opening kill attempts) to temper the aggression of the other three rifles.


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Bosnia and Herzegovina Nemanja 'huNter-' Kovač
Nemanja 'huNter-' Kovač
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.12
Maps played:
1474
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.67
Brazil Yuri 'yuurih' Santos
Yuri 'yuurih' Santos
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.12
Maps played:
1022
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.64
Russia Boris 'magixx' Vorobiev
Boris 'magixx' Vorobiev
Age:
19
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
638
KPR:
0.65
DPR:
0.63
Russia Dmitry 'sh1ro' Sokolov
Dmitry 'sh1ro' Sokolov
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.23
Maps played:
884
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.53
Russia Vladislav 'nafany' Gorshkov
Vladislav 'nafany' Gorshkov
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.96
Maps played:
885
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.69
France Dan 'apEX' Madesclaire
Dan 'apEX' Madesclaire
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
2003
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.70
Canada Russel 'Twistzz' Van Dulken
Russel 'Twistzz' Van Dulken
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.11
Maps played:
1394
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.62
France Audric 'JACKZ' Jug
Audric 'JACKZ' Jug
Age:
30
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
1096
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.68
Bosnia and Herzegovina Nikola 'NiKo' Kovač
Nikola 'NiKo' Kovač
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.15
Maps played:
1637
KPR:
0.80
DPR:
0.67
United States Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1614
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.68
Germany Johannes 'tabseN' Wodarz
Johannes 'tabseN' Wodarz
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
1953
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.70
Spain Alejandro 'mopoz' Fernández-Quejo Cano
Alejandro 'mopoz' Fernández-Quejo Cano
Age:
26
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
1158
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.68
Sweden Hampus 'hampus' Poser
Hampus 'hampus' Poser
Age:
23
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
1367
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.70
Estonia Robin 'ropz' Kool
Robin 'ropz' Kool
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.12
Maps played:
1149
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.61
Denmark Nicolai 'device' Reedtz
Nicolai 'device' Reedtz
Age:
26
Rating 1.0:
1.16
Maps played:
1793
KPR:
0.78
DPR:
0.62
Russia Sergey 'Ax1Le' Rykhtorov
Sergey 'Ax1Le' Rykhtorov
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
957
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.63
Ukraine Valeriy 'b1t' Vakhovskiy
Valeriy 'b1t' Vakhovskiy
Age:
19
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
459
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.63
Israel Lotan 'Spinx' Giladi
Lotan 'Spinx' Giladi
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
442
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.65
Denmark Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
Age:
32
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.91
Maps played:
2031
KPR:
0.62
DPR:
0.69
Russia Ilya 'Perfecto' Zalutskiy
Ilya 'Perfecto' Zalutskiy
Age:
22
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
722
KPR:
0.62
DPR:
0.60
Kazakhstan Alexey 'Qikert' Golubev
Alexey 'Qikert' Golubev
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
1269
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.64
Russia Evgenii 'FL1T' Lebedev
Evgenii 'FL1T' Lebedev
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1249
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.65
Denmark Benjamin 'blameF' Bremer
Benjamin 'blameF' Bremer
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.15
Maps played:
884
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.61
Sweden Fredrik 'REZ' Sterner
Fredrik 'REZ' Sterner
Age:
24
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
1356
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.67
Ukraine Aleksandr 's1mple' Kostyliev
Aleksandr 's1mple' Kostyliev
Age:
24
Rating 1.0:
1.25
Maps played:
1571
KPR:
0.86
DPR:
0.64
Denmark Rasmus 'sjuush' Beck
Rasmus 'sjuush' Beck
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
825
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.64
Lithuania Aurimas 'Bymas' Pipiras
Aurimas 'Bymas' Pipiras
Age:
18
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.97
Maps played:
385
KPR:
0.63
DPR:
0.63
Canada Keith 'NAF' Markovic
Keith 'NAF' Markovic
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1575
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.63
Denmark Emil 'Magisk' Reif
Emil 'Magisk' Reif
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1411
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.63
Germany Josef 'faveN' Baumann
Josef 'faveN' Baumann
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1348
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.65
Russia Denis 'electroNic' Sharipov
Denis 'electroNic' Sharipov
Age:
23
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1318
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.66
Russia Robert 'Patsi' Isyanov
Robert 'Patsi' Isyanov
Age:
18
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
516
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.69
Denmark Andreas 'Xyp9x' Højsleth
Andreas 'Xyp9x' Højsleth
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
1984
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.61
Latvia Mareks 'YEKINDAR' Gaļinskis
Mareks 'YEKINDAR' Gaļinskis
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
1104
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.70
Sweden Ludvig 'Brollan' Brolin
Ludvig 'Brollan' Brolin
Age:
20
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
1006
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.67
Denmark Peter 'dupreeh' Rasmussen
Peter 'dupreeh' Rasmussen
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1953
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.65
Brazil Andrei 'arT' Piovezan
Andrei 'arT' Piovezan
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
1008
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.71
Denmark René 'TeSeS' Madsen
René 'TeSeS' Madsen
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
832
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.67
Denmark Martin 'stavn' Lund
Martin 'stavn' Lund
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
1120
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.68
Denmark Lukas 'gla1ve' Rossander
Lukas 'gla1ve' Rossander
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
1691
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.66
France Mathieu 'ZywOo' Herbaut
Mathieu 'ZywOo' Herbaut
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.27
Maps played:
1020
KPR:
0.84
DPR:
0.61
Denmark Kristian 'k0nfig' Wienecke
Kristian 'k0nfig' Wienecke
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1562
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.69
Norway Håvard 'rain' Nygaard
Håvard 'rain' Nygaard
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
1627
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.69
Cool
2022-08-03 14:26
8 replies
No Niko at all LUL, says a lot
2022-08-03 15:08
7 replies
#44
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India mirapakay
t side very weak player
2022-08-03 15:58
5 replies
Sure buddy
2022-08-03 16:03
4 replies
Vs NiP last match niko 4-6 kills for map on every T side
2022-08-03 16:23
3 replies
This means he is weak T sided player?
2022-08-03 16:26
2 replies
I dk i dont watch g2 games, but NiP isnt a solid team, and rez and brollan was having a terrible performance on that tournament so if u cant performance vs that on t side, ye i think he is weak on that aspect
2022-08-03 16:32
1 reply
then you should watch games instead ....anyways one bad game doesn't make you bad player. the fact that I have to say these things is just plain stupid
2022-08-03 16:59
That was generally G2's big problem - their T side. If their whole T side sucks, Niko will suck too
2022-08-04 13:58
#2
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United States cr4zy_m3
First comment
2022-08-03 14:26
5 replies
nt
2022-08-03 14:29
L
2022-08-03 14:29
Kekw
2022-08-03 14:30
unlucky
2022-08-03 15:16
'Im fine' moment
2022-08-03 20:59
#3
HObbit | 
Poland Brisu
I didn't expect any kind of awp role in low rating list
2022-08-03 14:27
I like these
2022-08-03 14:28
2 replies
#17
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Indonesia ycrows
these nut
2022-08-03 14:42
1 reply
You have only 1?
2022-08-04 08:28
I like these articles
2022-08-03 14:30
How to interpret the damn boxplot ?
2022-08-03 14:31
3 replies
#25
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Brazil Pitzera
The T-position by role boxplot gives us an idea of distribution and spread of rating over those roles. For example, at the awper's part, the white line inside the green box indicates de median (where we have 50% of awpers above and below, so half of the awpers had a rating above 0.99) , the green box indicates the first (25%) and third (75%) quartile (so half of our awpers are inside those, having a 0.94 to 1.00 rating), the line outside the box indicates the overperformers and underperformers (Not sure how it was done, i think the lenght is done by doing the min(IQR*1.5 , maximum value))
2022-08-03 15:00
1 reply
Thanks, i still need to learn more to interpret,analyze and comparing boxplot
2022-08-03 17:52
Never learned that in 4th grade?
2022-08-03 23:13
#10
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England MikeLCHV
How to be good on t side: just bait
2022-08-03 14:33
1 reply
don t cry faze fan
2022-08-03 17:27
#11
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Russia Soawii
nice
2022-08-03 14:35
#12
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North Macedonia PlakyHere
Nice
2022-08-03 14:35
#13
swag | 
Cyprus Porgos
Who car
2022-08-03 14:36
#14
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Romania Pecea
sasha best
2022-08-03 14:38
#15
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World Tenshi_R
It's so weird, where is junior in all-stars compositions?
2022-08-03 14:39
#16
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Czech Republic JameS_19
Cool, expected ropz to be the best Nuke lobby player tho
2022-08-03 14:39
1 reply
Ropz is kinda overrated tbh
2022-08-04 05:14
What the fuck, even statistics show that Dust2 is the ultimate CIS home map
2022-08-03 14:44
i want the vitality news already
2022-08-03 14:49
#20
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Ukraine d3adLY
nice post
2022-08-03 14:49
now this is some data
2022-08-03 14:53
nice, thank mr hltv
2022-08-03 14:55
NER0 bestest HLTV writer <3
2022-08-03 14:55
"blameF, another lurker, occupies an aggressive role on Ancient around B cave. Compared to rain (29%), nafany (30%), and Alejandro "⁠mopoz⁠" Fernández-Quejo Cano (28%), blameF (19%) is far more measured, although he makes up for that in rating." KEKW wtf does that even mean? Lol
2022-08-03 14:55
7 replies
#26
Zeus | 
Australia NoLeS
Translation: While blameF plays B cave (which tends to be a very aggressive one) he isn't as aggressive as other players in this role like nafany, rain and mopoz. However, he has comparatively a very high rating.
2022-08-03 15:03
3 replies
"makes for that up in rating". Well of course, he is not risking himself and his teammates go there to make space for him and he trades, it's obvious that his rating is going to be higher.
2022-08-03 15:07
2 replies
+1
2022-08-03 18:10
I mean it works lol
2022-08-04 06:47
#32
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Brazil Pitzera
blameF is classified as an lurker and on Ancient he plays around B cave. He's the best rating player on that position, even thought it's usually played by aggressive players like rain (29% Openning Attempts), nafany (30%), and Alejandro "⁠mopoz⁠" Fernández-Quejo Cano (28%). While blameF has "only" 19% of OPK Attempts, he has an bigger rating, therefore he's selected at this all-star team
2022-08-03 15:09
It Means while blamef has a lower rating playing ancient caves, he’s beating the other players playing same position. Having a better overall rating. I mean, it’s in plain fucking English.
2022-08-03 15:37
1 reply
English is a second language to most of the users
2022-08-03 22:03
#27
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Asia harxDy
ner0 goated
2022-08-03 15:04
1 reply
#36
NiKo | 
Brazil Nero7
thanks man
2022-08-03 15:27
good read
2022-08-03 15:07
#30
Zeus | 
Australia NoLeS
Very good write up btw, much more impressive data gathering than the rather modular task of dividing up the CT roles in comparison. I'm glad it was done by positions in a default rather than giving in to hltv's erroneous obsession with categorising every team's role as 'entry fragger', 'lurker', 'support' etc
2022-08-03 15:08
#33
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
This ones not as interesting as the CT side one. But nice to have both sides anyways
2022-08-03 15:10
3 replies
+1, less rounds are in the default positions. Also a lot of rating comes from execs, not default. I'm not seeing many dedi entries on the list.
2022-08-03 15:37
2 replies
#49
Zeus | 
Australia NoLeS
depends on the team. ENCE is more execute heavy and the more generic definitions for roles like entry, trade fragger etc matter more, for a team like NaVi this is a closer representation
2022-08-03 16:10
1 reply
Navi mostly default into late execs. That isnt the norm for atleast half the top teams
2022-08-03 23:44
wtf is Roamer?
2022-08-03 15:23
5 replies
Lurker, assuming. But idk why the fuck these mods need to make up their own words. Lol hltv is like their own little planet. Lol
2022-08-03 15:39
2 replies
well it says Mirage B lurker... but then Mirage roamer... I assume the roamer is the one who goes underpass, palace, or mid depending on the call. Or the one who goes banana/second mid/arch depending on the call
2022-08-03 15:51
#51
Zeus | 
Australia NoLeS
Roamer is a much more accurate 'real' T side role than lurker in modern CSGO There's no single lurker for teams nowadays so that's a totally inaccurate descriptor of a role to add for these maps. Who tf is the Mirage lurker for FaZe is it Twistzz playing apps/underpass or is it ropz alternating between A main and palace? Both are isolated from their teams and the focus of the team's aggression is typically the top mid pressure of Karrigan and rain (as is true for most teams on Mirage). And a 'roamer' as hltv have defined it, it ISN'T a lurker regardless so you're not on the money there either. On the contrary roamers for most teams play closer to the teammates than other roles. Maybe some exceptions are guys like Hampus or nafany who often push up and take up space well beyond their team, but nowadays they tend to stay within the pack much more frequently also.
2022-08-03 16:15
#41
MSL | 
United Kingdom NER0cs
The pack player who moves around. People like Karrigan who are normally with the other pack rifler but crop up in other places in variations of the default Nearly always the IGL
2022-08-03 15:50
#48
Zeus | 
Australia NoLeS
roamer = rifler with the most freedom to move around the map. E.g. in a default you tend to have the wing players, two guys who sit on either extremes of the map. Its not exactly useful for this position to roam because it takes too long to travel from one side to another. Roamer tends to start their position within the default toward the centre but they have more flexibility in moving around it. Tends to be the IGL as others have mentioned because IGL benefits most from having vision of the team/action occurring around the entirety of the map, so they're going to play this 'info gatherer'/roaming position. Wing players/site lurks tend to be isolated from the team and only have vision for their portion of the map. Also tends to not be something the 'star player' gets bogged down with, often the entry/spacemaker picks it up instead e.g. qikert/many current IGLs. Giving your star players around the map the opportunity to trade you out Qikert plays roamer for Outsiders because he's their mid round caller also, and he's also the spacemaker. Even though YEKINDAR played banana you can see Qikert was the one running in first more often than not getting baited or pushing past car for info
2022-08-03 16:07
Hardest position is to be BaitF on T-Side Question answered
2022-08-03 15:27
EZ for the goat
2022-08-03 15:53
#45
Zeus | 
Australia NoLeS
damn stavn is above NiKo for Banana, slight surprise and what a beast. its also interesting how frequently and anomalously Ax1Le tops these low interaction, passive positions like his anchor spots on CT, and outside long lurk and entry. Not only is he just an insanely well rounded rifler it speaks to cloud9's map philosophy of slow paced, deliberate and 'safe' map control that he is amplified by his team's system rather than the sacrificial lamb. What would be interesting data to see next is what the spread of positions played by IGLs on T side. The pack oriented, 'roaming' roles to play for info sure but aside from the obvious discrepancy for AWPers, there are the 'star player' IGLs like electronic who play unusually isolated, high impact lurk spots like outside/secret on some maps (although for electronic in particular this could just be chalked down to a legacy of his roles from before he picked up IGL duties) Then you also have IGLs like tabseN who are more anchored in their positions within the default (true for a lot of the default heavy teams too like cloud9 with nafany). e.g. BIG who prefer to double up on B site with both an apps and underpass player, with tabseN playing top mid deep into most rounds rather than roaming as a karrigan or snappi does.
2022-08-03 15:59
2 replies
Reported
2022-08-03 16:15
1 reply
#57
Zeus | 
Australia NoLeS
unlucky champ
2022-08-03 16:29
you can tell zonic has the biggest cock of them all
2022-08-03 16:03
pretty good article 👍👍👍
2022-08-03 16:16
#53
apEX | 
France Koadal
Spinx + Zywoo on vertigo gonna rock
2022-08-03 16:20
edit : i was wrong for 2022
2022-08-03 16:27
wat is roamer????????
2022-08-03 16:35
2 replies
Roamer is a Swiss manufactor of luxury watch, based now in Wallbach, Switzerland Also could be someone who likes to move around and travel, especially without a clear idea of what they want to do
2022-08-03 16:38
Basically, Lurker premium edition
2022-08-04 06:53
s1mple showing up in almost every pic xd
2022-08-03 16:58
very interesting
2022-08-03 17:00
#64
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Brazil 0mega_
AWP abusing even on T side smh my head Nerf this NOOB GUN Also wtf is this role making up shit, passive lurker, luker, and roamer? Lel
2022-08-03 17:05
Easiest role - baiter
2022-08-03 17:35
5 replies
ur perfect model role
2022-08-05 07:46
4 replies
I bait and topfrag
2022-08-05 07:49
3 replies
thats nice!
2022-08-05 07:49
2 replies
While losing 16-5
2022-08-05 07:50
1 reply
for baiter its ok to topfrag to steal all exit kills.
2022-08-05 07:51
another NER0 banger
2022-08-03 19:42
#75
JW | 
Sweden EntonXD
” Finally, Dust2 is made up of a fitting, fully Russian-speaking lineup of all-stars” You could not make this up hahah
2022-08-03 20:15
#76
JW | 
Sweden EntonXD
These articles are great, but I wish you could make these stats available for the public. And maybe explain roles like roamer a little more. Hope to see more articles like these so you know who is good at what. An article comparing ”support” players like interz and tizian who have more harder roles than the usual support
2022-08-03 20:17
I like these data-driven projects, nice work half life television)
2022-08-03 20:21
#80
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Denmark MEN))))
Tl;dr someone pls
2022-08-03 21:23
You're trying with all thse silly names like half-lurker, Roamer? Brawl?? No one talks like this
2022-08-03 21:33
1 reply
#93
Zeus | 
Australia NoLeS
lul tbh i never heard of any of this shit in my life except a half lurk but they sound pretty cool honestly
2022-08-04 07:36
#87
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Denmark nicram64
really nice article
2022-08-04 00:34
#88
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Taiwan 5OUL@
alright, but where is niko it?
2022-08-04 01:22
#92
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Slovakia BABEboSS
LOVING THIS STUFF, THANKS HLTV
2022-08-04 07:14
whoever wrote this article should step away from writing csgo articles... please.
2022-08-04 20:22
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