ENCE set to bench hades, SunPayus transfer imminent - Report

4-8-2022 16:30

The Finnish organization is also continuing to target possible replacements for Lotan "⁠Spinx⁠" Giladi.

According to sources with knowledge of the move, ENCE will be benching their starting AWPer, Olek "⁠hades⁠" Miskiewicz. Movistar Riders' star AWPer Alvaro "⁠SunPayus⁠" Garcia is the front-runner to pick up the Big Green in the international squad, with a deal for the player in the works.

hades will become transferable this off-season

hades was brought on to ENCE in June 2021, when the team's previous AWPer, Aleksi "⁠allu⁠" Jalli, took an extended break from competition. The Pole then became part of a core that broke new ground for the Finnish organization after going international. They climbed into the top 10 in 2021 and, with the addition of Pavle "⁠Maden⁠" Bošković at the beginning of the year, hit a peak of No. 2 in the world ranking — the same peak ENCE's Finnish roster had previously reached.

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The 22-year-old's exit comes after his performances from the lower tiers to the top events didn't always match up. The odd strong showing, as in during ENCE's second-place run at ESL Pro League Season 15, ended up laying in the shadow of a 1.03 Big Event rating and a 0.91 average rating at the Majors.

On the top of ENCE's list is SunPayus, and an agreement between the two teams appears imminent. The Spanish 23-year-old was one of the cornerstones of Movistar Riders' ascent to winning their first international trophy at ESL Challenger Valencia, reaching the top 10 in the world ranking, and making a semi-final run at IEM Cologne.

ENCE is also working on finding a replacement for Spinx, the Israeli star that has been putting up the biggest numbers for the international squad and is reportedly now on the way to Vitality. Interest has been expressed for a number of players, per our sources, including for BIG's Josef "⁠faveN⁠" Baumann, Sprout's Laurențiu "⁠lauNX⁠" Țârlea and Dion "⁠FASHR⁠" Derksen, but no agreements have been reached so far.

Vitality in market to replace misutaaa; target Spinx - Report

The Finnish organization still has time to sort out its affairs ahead of the coming season, as the roster lock for the team’s first event, ESL Pro League Season 16, should be on August 16 at midnight, according to the general EPT rules. The rule states that “the final roster that will be used at the event has to be reported before the deadline given by the tournament administration for that event (usually 14 days before the start of the first match of the event).”

nice

2022-08-04 16:30

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What is it with teams trying to be mediocre ruining other up and coming teams

2022-08-04 16:32

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cause thats how this game works, i know it sucks for ence like imagine ence, vitality and movistar all perform like garbage now, literally meant transfers did nothing

2022-08-04 16:35

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wasted career

2022-08-04 16:45

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who, what

2022-08-04 16:58

14 replies

Godpayus

2022-08-04 17:19

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hes barely had a career yet

2022-08-04 17:27

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But his career ahead looks bright, so you invest into players Faze invested in broky Mouse literally made ropz You take players with potential and make them better

2022-08-04 17:30

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Movistar doesn't have a bright future It's a poor org with some decent player and 1 really good player Why not join a proven squad, with more money, a bigger legacy and with better teammates. Go big or go home. What did ropz get for staying with Mouz? Nothing, he only won anything when he was with Karrigan, not Mouz but karrigan. The moment he left Mouz he became a major winner and joined one of the best teams ever. You can't compare Faze to Movistar. Faze is literally one of the richest organization with a long history in E-sports and Faze was still a top 10 team when they got broky.

2022-08-04 18:13

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movistar is not poor

2022-08-04 18:24

he was talking about ence investing in sunpayus wtf...?

2022-08-04 18:31

Bro, Movistar worths 8-10 Billions of dollars as a company. Another thing is they are not going to invest the money made on the company on csgo squad, but if they want, they can keep paying or raising salaries with little effort.

2022-08-04 21:33

Just to let you know, Movistar is one of the biggest telecom companies in the world xd

2022-08-05 00:05

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I love people saying this Movistar is just the investor, they have a separate branch for E-sports. That branch has a budget, which is very small. The entire E-sports division has an estimated worth of like 1 million. That's nothing.

2022-08-05 00:48

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Mate, NaVi cant say: Ok im just bored, i will sign the entire G2, Faze clan, vitality and cloud9, and own 5 top tier teams, they dont have the money, Movistar can, if they want Movistar riders be the top 1 team in world, they just: Ok sign the best 5 players in world, the best coach, best facilities, the money isnt the problem for them, they just dont want to invest that lot of money, so i doubt the transfer is for "money" reasons

2022-08-05 06:13

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That's not how it works. Every org is backed by billion dollar companies and/or billionaires. Every org could theoretically buy everything if their investors or sponsors or owners wanted to throw money away. But they don't. The only thing that matters is how much the org itself actually has at it's disposal and how much of that it's willing to spend.

2022-08-05 07:58

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Thank you grep I don't understand this... like yes Faze clan is worth like 300 million USD and has billion dollar sponsors but that doesn't mean the CS:GO division has 300 million at it's disposal.

2022-08-05 17:17

where did you take that? before they got invited to ESL PL the main director of the team said that they have much enough money to pay for the partner, wich if im not wrong, its about 6-7 million. Please, if you don't know what u are saying, stop posting ty

2022-08-05 15:56

bruh i never said he was bad lmao i understand the concept of investing in players i was just replying to the people above cause they were sending me weird shit i didnt understand

2022-08-04 18:30

That can easily happen

I can see it happen unfortunately

2022-08-04 18:52

jawdropper never expected this move

2022-08-04 19:08

because faze has been top tier after doing the same thing like 3 separate times

2022-08-04 16:36

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8/8 guys here should stop thinking they know better than acutal pros and e-sport orgs that make living off those decisions and make huge bucks from it

2022-08-04 16:43

Do you consider Stewie2k to EG a good idea? Don’t think so. That decision was straight bs as some other decisions like vita +dupreeh,magisk,zonik(good on paper, but now team lacks on chemistry) and device(again good on paper, but he can’t speak the language he won with 4 majors). If you want to win a major with international team, you have to be Faze(no other way around it)

2022-08-04 17:32

Except device can speak Swedish, that wasn't the problem with his transfer.

2022-08-04 18:32

The device transfer made nip a better team. The transfer only sucks now cuz of he leaving

2022-08-04 20:45

not only are danish and swedish similar but device also speaks swedish anyways, wasn't a language issue

2022-08-04 23:10

First of all Device speaks swedish. All Danes understand most swedish, but Device was literally fluent before going to NiP. Second of all Device made NiP better, but he played with Plopski and LNZ in the same lineup, which obviously lowered the ceiling for the team's potential. If you consider NiP an international roster with the signings of Device and es3tag, which your comment implies, then Na'Vi is just as international with the split between Russians and Ukrainians. So your own premise for being an international team actually disqualifies your conclusion, that you have to be Faze to win a major with an international roster. Sry

2022-08-06 11:01

The whole point of tier 2 orgs is to sell the players that's how they make their money

2022-08-04 16:44

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+1, the lower tiers are all about discovering and developing the star players of tomorrow. with the exception of players like Ropz, most players have to work their way into tier 1 from tier 3 or lower. the orgs that give these up-and-comers a shot don't have the massive budgets that the tier 1 orgs do, as such they buy cheap and sell high to keep the lights on. This is exactly what Mouz does, and also why Mouz will never be the #1 ranked team in CSGO, they are one of the tier 1/2 orgs that pick up these players for cheap, and sell them on once they've proven themselves. what people are forgetting is it is not possible for every single org in CSGO to be a tier 1 team.

2022-08-04 17:01

well said.

2022-08-04 18:42

+1 actual brains on hltv, who would've thought

+1 thats why Ive stopped bring a mouz fan, they just don't care about winning stuff anymore

2022-08-04 20:10

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Because they still can not afford to do so , they can’t keep talents like ropz , they can’t offer what faze can

2022-08-04 21:44

The only orgs that can afford to be consistently top 10 are teams that also do really well in other esports. G2 has CSGO, RL, R6S, LoL- FaZe has CSGO, RL, CoD, and huge media presence- Liquid/NiP/Astralis/NaVi/C9 are all the same, make money with a bunch of successful esports teams and use it to make all those teams better

2022-08-04 23:13

sad but true. As the saying goes, you need to spend money to make money.

2022-08-05 00:13

Ppl who don't leave their basements don't know basic business theory. +1

2022-08-05 14:06

Botvistar riders 2 years with the roster and still trash, cry is free

2022-08-04 16:48

It looks like you are a fan of bots so you should be sad for Movistar

2022-08-04 16:57

Im not gonna say a lot bcs i know you are baiter, but for your info, movistar roster isnt even a year old, (almost), and i see your point, you mad bcs movistar riders pushed Imperial out of the Pro League in the last posible tournament, that sucks :)

2022-08-04 18:43

Vitality stole spinx so ence stole sanpayus Allgood

keep the competition low XD

2022-08-04 17:08

You do understand that it is movistars that choose to keep him or not.

2022-08-04 17:14

not rly true. depends on contract...

2022-08-04 18:08

Yhea...

2022-08-05 06:26

wtf is sunpayass doing. the guy is worse than smooya but has a real chance at being something in movi but as soon as he opens himself to the international scene hes gonna be just slightly above average.

2022-08-04 17:21

ez money for him, rest is ence problem. that being said I think he’ll at worst be equal to hades so why not?

i really dont think hades is bad hes just a more passive awper on a super agro team, unless your signing woxic or smt i dont think many players will do much better.

2022-08-04 17:59

Do you have any IQ? Sunpayus is top 5 awper, so this is an upgrade for him and for the team. And even if he was bad it would still make sense, since he would get paid more at Ence than he does at MR.

2022-08-04 17:38

hes never been a top 5 awper at any single tier 1 event nevermind overall top 5. hes good i just think hes in for a shock when he starts playing with zero support.

2022-08-04 18:00

Send simple or zywoo to movistar riders and see what they can do. Sunpayus is an awesome player, but he cant deliver more than that with those players around him. At Ence he will be able to further capitalise his skills. After simple and zywoo who are by far the best, sunpayus is up there with the likes of broky and shiro. Wait and see

2022-08-04 19:20

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sunpayus is up there with the likes of syrson and torzi.

Sunpayus is def better than those two, but I agree they are the tier

2022-08-04 20:51

def not rofl

2022-08-04 20:59

deffo not better than syrson come on

Onlineson

2022-08-05 06:27

I don't think is a good move for him, stats wise. He's good being the star of the team and having support and space, not sure if he'll get that in Ence, unless they change the way they play, plus if they lose Spinx, not sure if they can keep being in top10.

2022-08-04 21:36

Thats a perfect move for him and the team. I agree about spinx though, that would be such a huge loss

2022-08-04 23:36

watch more cs and buy more merch then maybe ence could keep their players lol

2022-08-04 17:43

Go watch female cs

2022-08-05 16:42

You are quite dramatic

2022-08-04 20:07

nobody wants to play on great team with shit salary rather than mediocre team with great salary youll learn it when youll grow up and find yourself a job

2022-08-05 10:03

with sunpayus they might have won their ever elusive top tier tournament. shame spinx is set to leave

2022-08-04 22:09

Again million comments under the first one. just fuck off.

2022-08-05 12:35

What

Rip Spanish scene , moviestars are irrelevant now let's goooo !

2022-08-04 17:16

Someone seems kinda mad cause of Cologne

2022-08-04 18:29

it has nothing to do with cologne. it seems he is telling the thruth

2022-08-04 22:10

imo i dont think so, i mean obviusly it will make their performance drop, but they wasn't winning cause of him, if they find a replacement that doesn't chage so much their team playstyle they can still be top 15 at their best

2022-08-04 23:04

wtf

2022-08-04 16:31

Yeah tbh im not sure it works well for sunpayus and ence. Seems like his english arent that good. Comms problem will be happen

2022-08-05 00:18

Seems like his english arent that good. neither is yours

2022-08-05 02:56

Spanish CS pog

sad that movistar wont be as good though

With time martinez can perform for Movistar aswell, but yeah losing sunpayus is a huge loss

2022-08-04 16:54

Seems like the one joining is stadodo...Is a nice guy but i would prefer Martínez tbh

Is stadodo really going to movistar 3 weeks after signing with ftw? I did not expect that at all, but it's a great upgrade for him. Ftw in the mud then

2022-08-04 18:21

Like I would have Waited to do the rmr and EPL. They might not have any chance to do something

2022-08-04 19:38

True. I am not sure how many good awpers there are in Spain, but maybe they can bring some south american awp (nqz? Luken? try?)

2022-08-04 16:55

try or martinezsa, luken doesn't want to awp

Yeah was a real shame, they were playing so well too. Surprised sunpayus wants to leave though, surely if he wanted to stay he could? As for hades, this had been coming, too often not doing enough for an awper of this tier

Unexpected

Expect the...

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2022-08-04 21:47

wrong thread?

2022-08-04 22:49

oh i thought this was a reference to the BIG thing.. :c twitter.com/tabseNcs/status/155153339670.. twitter.com/gobelante/status/15515672164.. so i sent the title of the HLTV post about it :c hltv.org/news/34310/big-send-clear-messa..

2022-08-05 17:24

bro you pulling conclusions just not the right ones

2022-08-05 17:39

ENCE no 1 team now

I mean they probably gonna be replacing Spinx for Vitality and then its hard to call them that

Spinx aint leaving

2022-08-04 17:47

cope KEKW

2022-08-04 18:39

Literally the only reason people though he was joining vitality was because they said they had a huge announcement coming, which turned out to be an awp skin.

2022-08-04 20:01

like NO WTF ? they are multiples repports, multiples sources about that, the annoncement skin bait was actually a guess WHEN he gonna be annonce, not if he come or not

2022-08-04 20:14

#375

2022-08-04 20:32

cya when vita gonna win 3 majors in a row

2022-08-04 21:05

Now this is unexpected :O

sadge

Holy shit

mantuu aint getting a team is he?

Probably not, top teams need an aggressive AWPer that can also be consistent when playing passive Mantuu is neither

2022-08-04 16:40

Wish EG picked him up

2022-08-04 16:49

or comp, i wish i can jsut wish

Sadge

-hades expected but +sunpayus? lmao

true

2022-08-04 18:04

True

2022-08-04 21:59

They lost the opportunity to get degster, I don't think it's an upgrade tbh

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Man do you see how sunpayus playing? Yes its ugrade

He's a great player, my only doubt would be whether he can keep it up in an international team

2022-08-04 17:04

An international team that really doesn't give their awp much to work with. Compared with a domestic team built around him. I imagine this will be similar to saffee from pain to furia, only ence are worse than furia and sunpayus isn't as scary as saffee was when he was in pain.

2022-08-08 04:45

international team , not one tournament in a year ( everyone can be good at one moment ) instead Ence play like 20 tournaments per year , English Talk , different role probably ( outside of awping )

2022-08-05 02:39

degster > Sunpayus > hades

2022-08-04 16:37

SunPayus is 100% an upgrade

2022-08-04 16:41

Degster = 300k Sanpayus = prob less than 100k

2022-08-04 17:49

If Movistar lets him go for only 100k, they are …not smart. They have a chance to keep team which could be consistent top 15 for sure, maybe even top 10. But they will rather let go a chance to be top 10, for only 100k?

2022-08-04 17:55

They don't get a choice. If the buy out clause is 100k then too bad.

2022-08-08 04:46

Yeah, I’m just saying it’s really stupid to have the buy clause so low

2022-08-08 09:45

hadEZ

LETS GOOOO

WTF SUNPAYUS

Yeah. Sunpayus, wtf u doink?

2022-08-04 19:00

Murcia brain

2022-08-04 21:01

What in the actual fuck? Unexpected tbh

RIP Movistar Riders - congrats to ENCE

Predicted long time ago, hades not even top 15 awper. Very poor performance, maybe he will more comfortable in a polish team.

Wat

First junior and now hades

cerq incoming sadge

2022-08-04 16:34

Rip s1mple

2022-08-04 16:56

don't worry EG loves him for some reason

is he EG CEO boytoy?

2022-08-04 18:34

well that would make sense...

2022-08-04 23:25

both are bots

2022-08-04 17:39

Pog. For me it is bad if Movistar riders sell SunpayUs, he shouldn’t do it and stay.

2022-08-04 16:33

smooya back to movi :D

MRS players object 4sure

2022-08-04 16:52

Don’t destroy MR!!!!!

This is a good change but rip movistar :(

what a bad pickup, dont understand me wrong, he hits the shots he should, but he is not a star awper they need. Spinx leaving leaves a big firepower gap in the team, this pickup wont fix that.

well ENCE is that team which buys unproven players, not stars

yes look at their current awper

2022-08-04 16:47

Hadez is good

2022-08-04 17:02

Yes thats why they replace him

2022-08-04 17:46

hadez is better than most tier 2 awpers but in tier 1 he is average.

2022-08-04 18:06

noo my lookalike is benched..

Why no mantuu tho?

what the

Holy hell that’s a good move

most random transfer

Don't do this Álvaro

Expected unfortunetly

now this is a massive upgrade, hades was the worst player in tier1 overall and he's an awper.

No he wasn't the worst, he had bad tournaments, but some great shows as well.

2022-08-04 16:38

You forgot junior?

2022-08-04 16:42

He is talking about t1 junior is above all tiers

2022-08-04 16:50

S-tier

2022-08-04 17:05

Wtf. Not even remotely close to to the worst awper nevermind worst player.

2022-08-08 04:48

expected and unexpected

WHAR

Sunpayus pog

I said that Vita prob bought spinx i knew i was right

no news no updates, i dont think so

2022-08-04 19:03

i think so why would they look actively for replacement?

2022-08-04 19:04

Bring back god ALLU

great pickup

Unexpected lol

unexpected

WTF?????

can sunpayus speak good enough english though?

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spanish people are educated

??? have you heard his interviews before? hes not igling, but if english simply does click fast enough in your brain then international calling can be a little difficult

but still more helpful to the team than hades i think

2022-08-04 17:00

in terms of skill yeah probably

2022-08-04 17:26

Majority of western European countries speak a decent level of English

2022-08-04 17:10

bruh forget western europe fucking watch his interviews bro fuck me you people are overthinking this shit soooo much im not trying to diss fucking spanish people or europe or fucking whatever the fact is 'decent' clearly is not enough in some situations, look at vitality who is full of western europeans who are currently struggling in terms of communication in english, literally zonic their coach said this. im just asking important questions, generalising is not exactly helpful especially when you're running a professional esports team

+++ ingame info is not enough to call english decent, imo teams are unable to build the team spirit cause of language barrier, its pretty hard to express feelings with language different than native

2022-08-04 17:52

thank fucking god someone understands me i still think international rosters can be good though

obviously they can but it needs to be thoughtful, Faze got 2 scandinavians where english is almost like native language plus Canadian Twistzz, its enough, Zywoo never felt comfortable with speaking english and u can see results

2022-08-04 18:44

Western Europeans except French people* There you go

2022-08-05 09:00

That's why international teams are so successful lul

2022-08-04 18:07

#1 atm right

Yeah but FaZe is the exception not the norm

2022-08-05 22:24

in spain people dont speak alot english they pref spanish just like in france they hate to speek english

2022-08-04 17:29

French are arrogant stuck up losers with too much unfunded pride. I will exclude them from the discussion, I know and have been to Spain plenty of times and the majority of 'youngsters' speak decent English.

2022-08-05 09:01

+1 French and italian people have the worst english of all European countries

2022-08-09 18:21

whyyyyyyyyyyy rip movistar riders, sad

replacing hades with sunpayus is honestly fucking delusional LOL

HELLO ????????

nooo i would love to see more from mr :( that move will totaly screw them up

big W on this one ENCE nice move Snappi knows what he's doing

saw*

yes he's not given enough credit too

sAw literally decides all the roster moves.

I'm sure Snappi is involved in the thought process either way

damn this will ruin movistar riders i liked that team ENCE will suck without spinx so sunpayus might even be moving to a worse team only good player left there is dycha...

Oh man, good bye to the best Spanish team... I feel happy for SunPayus but I really was looking forward for Movistar Riders as full Spanish team..

no llore spor que se acabo, sonrie por que paso

bien dicho :)

Nada nos puede consolar

2022-08-04 19:19

lmao, where the fuck did this come from

WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK LIKE I UNDERSTAND HADES BENCH, BUT WTF WOULD SUNPAYUS LEAVE MOVISTAR THOUGH?

Dude ence is tier S we are all crying but can step up to the god tier awp

ENCE top1 Pog GodPayus

WOW but why not take mopoz too when Spinx is going away anyways? Or imagine if Spinx stays and it's just -hades +sunpayus that would actually be insane and i can see them beating both FaZe & NaVi I feel bad for spanish scene though.

It is said in article Spinx is on his way to Vitality

He mentioned that too?

Spinx, the Israeli star that has been putting up the biggest numbers for the international squad and is reportedly now on the way to Vitality.

2022-08-04 17:25

"but why not take mopoz too when Spinx is going away anyways?" The guy you replied to literally said the same, don't understand why you had to reply to him stating this again

2022-08-05 08:58

I have no clue, maybe they see sprout launx and other targets much more valuable replacement than mopoz

2022-08-05 15:35

Spinx is 100% going to vitality no way ence have money to buy sunpayus without selling spinx

ye thats true actually

heartbreaking...

Agressive team picking defensive sniper, bad choice imo. Ence should sign agressive sniper who can also riffle

Now you have to save Spinx

They cant i believe the transfer is already done

2022-08-04 16:39

Not confirmed rn

So Faven for Spinx and Kito finally becomes a permanent member of BIG?

I heard -tizi +kito

hades :'(

OLAS TRZYMAJ SIE JESTESMY Z TOBA CALA LEGIA WARSZAWA

And people said Snax join Kekw

Unexpected wtf

rip movistar 😕😕

good move for sunpayus and bad move for MR

sun pay us, the best of luck if you go to Ence, keep growing to be on a final against Riders!

Woooow

NONONONONONO im dying nonononononoo please nonono

omg call an ambulance no joke

Call an ambulance

2022-08-04 18:55

LETS FUCKING GOO HLTV IS ALWAYS RIGHT ON THESE TIER 4 BOTS

ok, but why, hades is a good player

Full Polish ENCE believers where are you now??

Here , and I am disappointed tbh

Well, they could either go full polish or fight to stay at the top, i'm glad they're choosing to do the latter

I didn't expect Ence to actually fight for top with going for signings like this but if they are able to , Polish team was an inferior option.

they are gonna be outside top 10 in 2 months, mark my words

Yeah of course they'll take a dip in performance for a bit, but they'll still end up better than they could ever be with any polish lineup

2022-08-04 21:10

no, i dont think so. im pretty sure that Snappi is the problem. They were winning almost everytging and when rushes stopped working, they were losing everything for 2 tournaments straight. First, replece him and then talk about other changes.

2022-08-04 23:55

same would've happened if they kept hades probably

2022-08-04 23:42

when ENCE kicked all the Finnish players out, they started to play well xDDDDD

2022-08-05 10:54

Ok?

2022-08-05 11:14

Hehehe exactly

Spinx replacement wtf misutaa didnt even leave

Imo kinda unexpected, I thought Sunpayus wants to stay at Movistar. Sure Ence needed new awper, but I thought player like Mantuu would be easier to get even if his ceiling isn't as high as sunpayus' ceiling is.

Wtf are Movistar riders doing selling him?

MartinezSa check your dms

So sad :((( time for MartínezSa

WTF W for sunpayus

why ruin MRS?

im agree, i dont thinks is a good move for any of both teams and also for sunpayus

Overratedus

I am in shambles

Why not phzy,smooya,snatchie,woro2k,jL... Keep SunPayus in Movistar Riders they're a strong team together

Phzy had a below 1.00 rating in NIP, smooya is a toxic clown, snatchie LOL, cheat2k got dropped from mad lions for being a toxic cheating kid, jl bot as well. They should have signed degster but he chose OG

Degster was 100% going to OG i wouldn't considered that Smooya i think he needs more chances to prove that he's a good person Snatchie is a decent tier 2 awp and already played with dycha so they have good relationship,i think. That tweet from Woro2k was a bait he replyed 1 day before,but he deleted that tweets jL I think he's a promising star and he has a good energy

Well this is a surprise , MR gonna get tanked . Does Spain have another good awper ? Smooya return imminent ? Sunpayus is an upgrade over Hades but would he be effective with English comms as well ?

Only other good spanish awper I can think of rn is MartinezSa (even though his stats look terrible, he is pretty good)

Sorry Ronaldo brother but I have never heard of that name before.

2022-08-04 16:53

expected tbh since he pretty much only plays iberian scene hltv.org/player/21239/martinezsa#tab-inf.. edit: ik ppl will probably say "Lol 0.83 rating awper vs tier 3" and they're right, but he's got some potential and I honestly can't recall any good spanish awpers

Damn those are some wack stats , not good team wins either. Doesn't really look like a candidate for replacement but then again , I never saw the guy play.

2022-08-04 16:59

dream transfer would be +try yea stats are pretty bad but he could show some impact playing in a proper system like movi

Try could honestly really be a great addition , but I doubt it given his new roster formed recently and displayed some great potential as well. But who knows , maybe MR can throw some money for him

Those are 3 maps stats you shouldn't take them seriously

Ooh you are right in that regard , all time his rating is good but the fact that his current team rarely played this year doesn't paint a good picture either . They have been inactive for better part .

2022-08-04 17:11

They have been playing, but not on hltv (I think)

ah maybe qualifiers and that kinda stuff but sadly we cant judge him on those at least unless we tune into game ourselves.

2022-08-04 17:31

Ence not really any better than Movistar if Spinx leaves... Well good oppurtunity I guess for Spanish cs to grow if they find another great awper and also will have great player in International roster

junior is free agent, they can take him

paytyn habla español?

Movistar Riders Luken?

finally

Great pickup but sad for Movistar. Ppl saying he will not deliver dont know jack shit

ENCE should have got degster, missed opportunity and ripperino for Movistar I guess. Is sunpayus' english good?

NO PLIS, ENCE GO TO FINLAND AND DON'T TOUCH THE UNIQUE SPANISH TEAM

OMEGALUL he had one good tournament and they gonna sign him already? risk move

Definetly better then people said sbax

NO FKN WAAAAAY

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo :(

Y'all are really gonna ruin the best Spanish team that has ever existed for a small upgrade.

incredibly based roster move by ENCE, literally didn't sign degster just to kill movistar 💪😎

Movistar ruined just for ence to go nowhere close to lifting trophies

But they have been close twice already with this roster and this is an upgrade

They peaked too early and have now dipped, i dont think they can replicate it again but we can hope

The loss of spinx cant really be covered for though.

2022-08-04 17:13

Noob move

HUH

unexpected but could be a good move

Unlucko hades mantuu:((

if SunPayus leaves Movistar Riders it will only ruin his career, ENCE is a team that reaches the finals but doesn't win anything... apart from the fact that they will have to speak English... they have to stay with Movistar if they want to win the next major.

And you think riders can win anything? Lol ence has such a higher ceiling that riders do, their cologne run was a lucky fluke and they fluked top 10 rankings too. Now they are done without sunpayus

ence is a great team, but they never win anything, they are in the semifinals and finals but they don't make it, they are still a young team and they still have a long way to go, also if spinx is not there it makes no sense for sunpayus to go

2022-08-06 01:32

I agree that without spinx ence won't be what they once were and yes they ce up short is some finals but they only lose to best teams rn, they lost epl finals to faze which is no shame. They are just a level below faze and navi andnit sucks but its the reality

2022-08-06 01:39

ENCE is fucking done LMAO

i thought ence was doing a polish superteam🥺

desolado

Movistar is done.

replacing mediocre AWP for static AWPer like lidl verison of device wont elevate them - they needed degster, but wasted opportunity. With spinx leaving aswell they are far from getting major slot

mistake

Finally kicking this fraud

called it twitter.com/CsgoHades/status/15515968767..

weird transfer...

2022-08-04 16:46

What??????? RIP the best Spanish team ever existed. I'll miss these good old days

Holy shieeet

Sunpayus is a fluke, GL!

unexpected anyway sunpayus>hades

I'm fullshock

:/ Sadge

expected, only sad thing that hades will be getting free money on the bench

Great move by ence

unexpected but could work well

Wtf

whats wrong with teams nowdays signing players for playing 1 good tournament

I fuckin knew it. I called it happening here maybe a week or two ago. It was blatantly obvious they were going to grab him from Riders. Rip Riders tho, was a good run they had recently but I'm afraid it's all over now, they will be a tier 3 team without him

rip movi fans :( maybe +martinezsa ?

+try?

both teams fkd now lmao

sad :(

Actual 200 IQ move, but Movistar riders is gone now, that's for sure

NOOOOO, WHY MEN

WTF sad for movistar, there were doing well, hope they can keep up their level without him Maybe sausol to movistar for more firepower would be cool

it has to be try

unlikely tbh, they just got 3 new players in 00Nation hope they can get better over there too

00N wanted to sell try before signing godsent trio

2022-08-04 17:17

oh interesting

2022-08-04 17:15

rip polish ence

martinez to riders

*mantuu, poizon and Woro2k FA/benched* ENCE: no, let BUY a spanish player

What's his nationally got to soth anything?

nothing, it’s just cuz ENCE has players from nothern/central europe, is better they keep this “pattern” to not begin some culture/comms clash (and they have this players as an options

2022-08-04 21:20

Ye because Israel is Nortern / Central Europe.

2022-08-05 08:59

WHAT?! AND MOVISTAR AGREES? BRO DON'T LET GO OF SUNPAYUS IS A KEEPER

they should get try as a solid replacement, not saying he's better though

Not sure if movistar would even be able to pay his buyout, or if try wants to join the team anyway

2022-08-04 19:07

he's been living in portugal for months now, i think he would be more than comfortable joining and about the buyout i agree but i also think it depends of how much movistar is going to get from sunpayus transfer

2022-08-04 19:10

oh, I didn't know he was living in portugal, good for him. if it becomes possible would you like to see him play for MR?

2022-08-04 19:34

yeah i'd love it tbh

2022-08-04 23:43

That's actually a great idea!

2022-08-05 02:34

pls mantuu

Lol

-hades expected

Rip polish ence :(. Why not get mhl?

because he is fucking dogshit :D he cant even play in academy team

2022-08-04 18:58

What are we doing here ENCE? Spinx money burning your pocket?

Hade is trash, that's a fact. Good move for ENCE if Sunpayus can be consistent. But sad for Movistar.

rip spain cs

HOLY

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

EZ4ENCE?

try to movistar riders?? could actually work out

SunPayus WOW That's actually a really good pick up!!! Sad for Riders but that's a huge W for ENCE

(Considering English isn't a problem for him)

no mantuu?:(

no pls sunpayus we need dark horses like a MR... so boring watching faze navi worsttransferality and b0tesy2 always

NOOO I understand why but NOO

fly high godpayus, think about what everyone scrificed for your upcoming

NOOOOOOOOO RIDERS!!!!! ;_;

I dont like the move. Sunpayus was speaking his native language and Movistar played around him. I think he is overrated for an international team.

wtf so bad move

2022-08-04 17:03

+1 bad for movistar

2022-08-04 17:09

RIP MR

-Spinx +Snax xd

wtf is this mens((

2022-08-04 17:07

Please do not ruin Movistar Riders lineup. They are doing well recently

finally hades is so bad, no brain/gamesense, low time reaction, tier5 awp and player

i like hades but obviously sunpayus is better (rip movistar). so we have: vitality +spinx ence +launx ence +sunpayus hades to? MISUTA TO MATCHMAKING PLEASE GOD!

dogshit move, now Movistar Riders is going to go through a weird period and ENCE isnt going to win shit regardless SnaX did a number on this team LOL, is he even being considered? wasnt spinx their best player? what the fuck happened here LOL

POG finally

Woow

2022-08-04 17:12

Great upgrade!

Looks like polish csgo leakers knew about this move before hades

This is a massive change... Best of luck to both players.

Omg finally thanks

Nice way to ruin your career. No way ENCE will win anything with or without you. You should stick to making Spain great and have a good career with movi.

Sadly expected move but taking sunpayus is a retarded decision (IMO) and there are better options

2022-08-04 17:18

2022-08-04 17:20

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

2022-08-04 17:22

whyyyy

rip ence

1 Sunpy won't work well in Eng based roster. stick with current roster 2 -hades +ultimate

2022-08-04 17:28

They got the mantuu option too, why would they go for an unproven awper like that, maybe in ence academy lol

2022-08-04 19:14

and Botsnappi can still play ? :D

RIP Ence RIP MR

who?

What????

2022-08-04 17:33

noo :(

2022-08-04 17:34

FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!

Sas for Movistar but proud of Sunpayus, wish him the best. Movistar pls dont sign Stadodo, MartinezSA is a better player and spanish 🙏

2022-08-04 17:36

Quite unexpected. This decreases the odds of snax being signed.

if true it breaks my heart. like who else can MR get?

Well it was obvious that ence needed to replace hades if they want really fight for trophies. But this pretty much confirms that they sell spinx to vitality idk who they can sign to keep same firepower. And rip mr team is dead after this.

Snax for spinx

2022-08-04 19:39

I am crying

2022-08-04 17:40

2022-08-04 17:41

Please save FASHR ence

when I said it over half a year ago, they called me a hatter and dycha blocked me on Twitter

rip movistar riders, good for ence

2022-08-04 17:42

Sunpayus dont ruin Spain pls stay with Riders Ence get mantuu instead of ruining a team because Vitality is bullying u with their bag

As sad as I'm for hades, it's an insane upgrade for ENCE, they defienietly needed more firepower and SunPayus seems to fit their style aswell, huge upgrade, if they could keep Spinx and get some decent support/entry player this team could still be challenging for trophies, I wish all the best to hades, I'm sure he can do better in the future.

2022-08-04 17:44

wtf are these roster moves lmao ez trophies for faze and navi I guess

youtelling me -hades is some huge downgrade?

2022-08-04 17:45

no but I'm not sure if its an upgrade either, I need to watch them play. They aren't winning any trophies tho especially with spinx leaving ence.

Better than Hades thats certain, lets see if he can deliver.

RIP MR, ENCE top 2 for now

Nice, ruined potentially tier1 team

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Hades to nip

holy shit outta nowhere

2022-08-04 17:54

THIS IS HUGE HOLY SHIT

2022-08-04 17:57

Called it during Cologne lol Not that I wanted to, hades my fav twitter acc

i mean, why they decided to add him cause of one tournament?

Wait....WHAT? This is wierd. I was expecting MR to replace one and get better. I don't see spinx leaving now?!

terrible move if its about in game stuff

2022-08-04 18:01

NOOO WTF MEN :(((((

Dang, this definitely will be an upgrade for ENCE, just sucks because I wanted to see if Movistar could continue their run of form into next season, or if Cologne was a fluke. Feelsbad for the rest of their players.

2022-08-04 18:02

Big if true hope movistar survives wirhout him

POLSKA DOŁEM

Niestety

2022-08-04 18:15

+mantuu +FASHR best solution

Movistar legit gonna get cucked if this goes through

2022-08-04 18:09

The fuq, DONT RUIN THIS SPANISH TEAM, they might be able to remain in the top, and just make ENCE full POLISH, comeeeeonnn ENCE.

+1 Snax to ence and we will be happy

Im so mad and sad right now Mixwell and lowel choosed int teams over spanisg team and failed miserably now after these ultra nice riders result sunpayus really choose to play in a team like ence that could distand anytime no words Gl riders there are many good awpers in Spain anyways

2022-08-04 18:18

hltv.org/forums/threads/2649158/ence-fix.. Unironically predicted SunPayus to ENCE a month ago lol xD

2022-08-04 18:19

good upgrade for ence shit move for moviestar unless they were desperate for money, then again ence probably didn't even offer that much cus they're not rich. moviestars got scammed basically

or MSR realized they got a surprise (dont want to use "fluke") period with a hot streak of winnings. So they cash in when they have opportunity. Good move by MSR imho since i dont consider them to be in top 10 for an extended period of time.

2022-08-04 18:48

It is an org of a big company. Money isn't the issue

2022-08-04 19:37

Actually a really good move. I love Hades but he's been really below-average for so long now... he needs to go sadly.

Sad day for Spain :((

2022-08-04 18:23

Poor mantuu and poor Movistar Riders. ENCE ruined a good team and ignored better replacements from Eastern Europe.

2022-08-04 18:26

Both rosters at their peak, hopefully this move works out ...

2022-08-04 18:27

FASHR would be a great replacement for spinx

Spanish scene ruined by a single transfer. Kind of a shame, I was really enjoying the Riders run. Ence still should have just got Degster tbh lol

good upgrade, but -spinx will be a downgrade unless they find some really good talent

2022-08-04 18:40

im wondering if sunpayus can properly talk and communicate in english ?

2022-08-04 18:41

SunPayus is a huge upgrade over hades but can some spanish mens)) help me to know if he speaks good english or not. I don't think i've ever seen him speak english

Nice

2022-08-04 18:45

RIP SPANISH CS............ SUNPAYUS CARRIED THEM.... BUT MAYBE THAT MARTINEZSA TALENT COULD BE A GOOD REPLACE.....

2022-08-04 18:57

Don't see this as an upgrade. More like a lateral move.

2022-08-04 19:06

what? rip spanish cs

what? movistar was so good lately

I'm not sure Sunpayus will be as effective or comfortable in an International team like ENCE. It's the same as with Brazilians, Spaniards have such national pride and passion when all playing together from one nation, I think that's what made Movistar peak higher than the sum of their individual parts GL and hope it works out, proven to be a beast of a player! Would just be a shame to see him fall off massively and damage his reputation and leave ENCE wishing they had kept hades

This actually kinda make sense and dude mentioning lowel and mixwell was also right. I don't like this move for sunpayus (and obviously for MR), for ence it should be slight upgrade, not huge imo.

2022-08-04 19:44

His english is meh

2022-08-04 19:13

How

might be huge if true. sunpayus is great

2022-08-04 19:15

2022-08-04 19:23

Don't ruin MR :(

RIP Riders :(

Wtf sad, I was excited for movistar riders seeing their new form but now their AWPer is pulling a Kjaerbye?

RIP ENCE

2022-08-04 19:52

nonononoNONONONONONONONONONONONON THIS CANT BE TRUE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

2022-08-04 20:03

this is so sad I cant men :(

2022-08-04 21:32

nooooo, movistar why :(

RIP RIDERS

2022-08-04 20:06

Let’s face what’s incoming: +hades +Michu +mantuu +snax +fiku +kuben as coach Remember my words ;)

Rip riders :(

2022-08-04 20:09

Snappi Disha Maden Sunpayus Yekindar

2022-08-04 20:13

My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined.

2022-08-04 20:20

cinderella story for movistar is over

2022-08-04 20:22

snappi is the problem.

2022-08-04 20:24

Noooooooooo, Movistar :(

2022-08-04 20:26

0iq move

2022-08-04 20:36

sad for Movistar boys..

2022-08-04 20:38

Lol expected but they decided to sign a long contract with him

2022-08-04 20:41

Pls don't destroy Movistar....

2022-08-04 20:46

Sucks for the Riders but it is what is .. c'est la vie.. I hope BigPa SunPa succeeds in ENCE

2022-08-04 20:54

What the fuck.

2022-08-04 20:55

In ENCE's BTS sAw literally said that if we get x player then we need x player so team chemistry stays good. He only mentioned faven in the BTS.

2022-08-04 21:19

RIP ENCE. such a good and dangerous team. just need more deep stratsbook to win something. rebuilding again and hopefully making money from their best players. ENCE owner $$$

2022-08-04 21:26

allu rich, because he owns 6,5 % from ENCE

2022-08-04 21:31

Wont work

WTF

I have no idea how this is a big upgrade. At most it will generate marginal improvements while costing a lot of money and dedtroying the Riders. 0 IQ.

2022-08-04 21:40

Hades was holding Ence back from being champions. It's not that he's bad, just not good enough when you're going against guys like S1mple and Broky. SunPayus is a massive upgrade and can put up a fight against these guys. If they can get a decent replacement for Spinx they can still be very legit. hltv.org/stats/players/compare/19164/sun.. Also important to note Hades steady decline since March..

Hahaahahahhahaha

2022-08-04 21:42

Fashr its time for u :)))

Movistar was the better team but obviously ence had more money in the bank so it was an offer sunpay couldn’t refuse

2022-08-04 21:54

Rip moviestar that was good team. should be +mantuu instead of sunpayus

2022-08-04 22:06

idk, I think they just need to change their coach

2022-08-04 22:17

Wtf faven/fashr

2022-08-04 22:20

Sprout +Zyphon +NBK +hades instant major contender

2022-08-04 22:21

uhh do you realize what major contender means

2022-08-05 02:02

Yes, There are Major Legends, Major Challengers, and Major Contenders. Thank you Valve for these distinct categories upon which we can understand where a team will likely lose when they qualify

2022-08-05 02:04

well i guess they could get sticker money if they do that

2022-08-05 02:05

Would be huge too for the org thats struggled to participate at majors lately. Would be a big stepping stone they could aim for that lineup

2022-08-05 02:20

Sad so ence back to tier 3... At one point they was getting good as a team...

2022-08-04 22:25

Sad but expected

2022-08-04 22:26

2 good Teams getting destroyed 💀

2022-08-04 22:28

finally bot benched

2022-08-04 22:54

Best possible move if they want to reach #1

2022-08-04 22:58

SUNPAGOD

2022-08-04 22:59

Sad to see. Movistars had the potential to be consistent top10 team and now they want to abandon all of that. Sad to see.

I am absolutely devastated.

2022-08-05 17:09

Believe or not, I know how you feel (rip ence 2019). I only hope that it won't be as bad for you. But it probably will be.

2022-08-05 18:55

So sad for movistar :(

2022-08-04 23:11

Not expecting this one

1 life series against Liquid and he gets picked up by ence? please don't, this is a terrible move

2022-08-04 23:16

Good

2022-08-04 23:22

Nice upgrade

2022-08-04 23:28

Very bad and sad news for MR. But is a good move for him and maybe for ENCE, even por Spain scene, having a player in a top 4 team in HLTV and a top 3 Pro Tour Ranking... Players for MR: -Martinezsa as awper. -Sausol entryfragger, and Dav1g moved to AWPER. -Stole Try from 00Nation. -Stadodo

2022-08-04 23:33

i rlly don't know how you could possibly save this besides try or stadodo

2022-08-05 00:51

I like Try. I think that he is a very good AWPER. Is from argentina, so the language is not a problem. Stadodo knows the scene (i dont like very much).... In last instance....the return of Smooya....lol... Not

2022-08-05 01:00

upgrade

no wayy , +stadodo or try

2022-08-04 23:47

hades had to go since he wasn't doing it, I hate that Spinx is going and I hate if he's going to VITA since I can't stand that team for one reason or the other.

2022-08-04 23:53

What both ence and movistar are doing is smart. Business wise and also long term for their teams. Movi is T2 and the purpose of the team business wise is to overplay their cost, and get players sold to tier 1. This is what will keep movi in the game for years and years to come. Movi is a quality org and will find a meaningful replacement for sunpayus. They have managed to stay semi relevant for a long time on a cheap cost. Ence is now a gatekeeper t1 team. They can't compete for 1st too often but can always be in the mix with their faze lite mini superteam of consistent performing prospects led by gigachad brain snappi. Ence too needs to sustain a biz model of selling their best players to richer t1 orgs to be able to financially sustain the team for years. This is a win win for all. On hades, he is not as bad as many are saying but is a ways away from being the AWPer for a top 5 team.

2022-08-05 00:46

sun was like 5/20 player 3 months ago, nah?

2022-08-05 00:50

hahahahah and people keep trying to say hades is/was good

2022-08-05 01:56

Laughable

2022-08-05 08:29

smooya to learn spanish and join movistar again :O

2022-08-05 02:37

Top 3 confirmed

2022-08-05 03:17

Now when Ence is benching Hades and Wisla shut down CS section there are so many free polish players. - Hades, - Snax, - mantuu, - KEi, - Kylar, - MICHU, - Snachie, - rallen, - mouz, - Markoś, - Goofy, - MINISE, - Stomp. You can make at least one really good team out of them.

2022-08-05 07:06

still no decent igl lmao

We live in Poland all the time VP and we cannot build anything new

2022-08-05 10:31

Is it confirmed or just rumors?

2022-08-05 07:16

Bad move

2022-08-05 08:24

"Set to move hades benched" = not confirmed, also Spinx deal not confirmed yet. ENCE probably weighing their options and of course they have multiple options how to proceed if Vita signs Spinx and bench hades. Let see how the situation turns out. ENCE will be interesting team to watch in EPL.

2022-08-05 09:45