Americas will have one less Major spot in Paris after Rio results

The lackluster results at IEM Rio come with consequences for the region.

When Valve released a comprehensive rulebook for the Majors before PGL Antwerp, the game developer revealed that they will base the allocation of Major spots on each region's success at the previous Major. After just two teams from the Americas made it to the Legends stage of IEM Rio (FURIA and Liquid), the number of spots at the next Major for teams from the Americas RMR drops down from six to five.

The Americas are down to five Major spots following 9z's elimination

At all the Majors since the pandemic aside from IEM Rio, the one actually happening in their own region, Americas had three teams in the Legends stage. That, combined with the three spots given to the region by default, amounted to six Major spots at PGL Antwerp and IEM Rio. For the BLAST.tv Paris Major, that number goes down to five for the first time. Additionally, depending on whether Liquid and FURIA can make playoffs, Americas could also have two, one, or no spots in directly in the Legends stage in France.

The Major spot previously held by the Americas will now go to the European RMR. The region continues its dominance over the world's scene with 17 spots at the Paris Major, due to 14 European teams being in the Legends Stage and the defaultly allocated three Contender spots. Asia will continue to have two spots at the Challengers Stage after IHC and Grayhound failed to make the next stage of the tournament.

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Valve's Major rulebook takeaways and what they mean for PGL Antwerp

With the change in the number of participants from Europe, changes are expected in the qualifying format, too. Previously, with 16 Major spots, two 16-team Swiss groups were enough to determine all Major participants from the region. With the 17th spot for Europe, the qualifying system will have to expand, with another group expected to be added and significantly more teams set to compete at the Europe RMR. Meanwhile, the format will remain the same for Americas (one 16-team Swiss group), but only five qualifying spots up for grabs imply that teams could get eliminated after just two losses.

The Major spot allocation for the Paris Major is as follows:

Europe Europe: 17 spots (+1)
North AmericaSouth America Americas: 5 spots (-1)
Asia Asia: 2 spots

#2
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Iceland proks92
nice
2022-11-04 15:18
#4
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Estonia tomKaasik
Lol
2022-11-04 15:18
:( sad
2022-11-04 15:18
1 reply
fr
2022-11-04 16:36
yay
2022-11-04 15:18
#9
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England pumk1n1
if they want more they should bring liquid, eg, col, nouns and atk to paris
2022-11-04 15:18
14 replies
#66
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Brazil MicaWes
col nouns atk trash
2022-11-04 15:25
13 replies
cant get worse than having two brazilians teams going 0-3
2022-11-04 16:02
12 replies
For the second time in the last three majors
2022-11-04 16:19
2 replies
#242
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United States f1nessd
It’s ok, furia and liquid will redeem us!
2022-11-04 16:26
1 reply
cope
2022-11-05 01:49
#320
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Brazil MicaWes
going 0-3 isn't better than not qualifying? lol
2022-11-04 17:37
7 replies
he was talking about paris use your brain before you write stupid shit
2022-11-05 10:44
6 replies
#485
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Brazil MicaWes
your comment is literally nonsense, east germany brain
2022-11-05 15:40
5 replies
he: "they should bring liquid, eg, col, nouns and atk to paris" you: they are trash I: they cant perform worse in Paris than brazilians in Rio you: i cant comprehend what you are saying because im not smart enough
2022-11-05 15:45
4 replies
#488
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Brazil MicaWes
How can you tell that they in Paris will not perform as bad as the brazilians in Rio? Nouns atk and col are literally as bad as imperial and 00, they couldn't qualify in the RMR against those 0-3 brazilian teams. LOL Your prediction is literally nonsense, expected more from European brain.
2022-11-05 15:58
3 replies
you know what WORSE means?? going 0-3 in challenger is literally the WORST outcome at the major. when I say they it cant be WORSE i did not rule out they can be AS BAD because it cant be worse than the worst outcome only as bad. dont embarrass yourself
2022-11-05 16:20
2 replies
#490
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Brazil MicaWes
ok mr obvious, of course it can't be worse than 0-3 your commentary adds a lot to the thread
2022-11-05 16:52
1 reply
you really dont get the point, do you?
2022-11-05 16:56
the cherry on the cake is that these 2 teams were supposed to be the buffed teams by the crowd because they were the golden generation LMAO.
2022-11-04 21:46
India deserves one spot too.
2022-11-04 15:19
10 replies
#22
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Asia ke1fu
i think india can play asian slot
2022-11-04 15:19
1 reply
They can play Asia open qualifiers to try to get in to the closed qualifier and RMR anyway.
2022-11-04 15:31
#243
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United States f1nessd
Play Asian qualifier
2022-11-04 16:26
#274
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CIS I_D_R_C
nope
2022-11-04 16:55
Bruh😂
2022-11-04 18:03
2 replies
#422
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Brazil Anarchybr
Reported for trying to alt me
2022-11-04 22:44
1 reply
I report you. Fake anarchy
2022-11-05 07:18
Forsaken Indian Pride
2022-11-04 18:34
Indonesia is all you can get.
2022-11-04 21:47
you are asia uwu
2022-11-05 05:18
GOOD
2022-11-04 15:19
#12
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England jayjay4488
Good
2022-11-04 15:19
finally
2022-11-04 15:19
good
2022-11-04 15:19
give to asia pls
2022-11-04 15:19
7 replies
No, it goes to EU
2022-11-04 15:37
2 replies
#244
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United States f1nessd
Rip.
2022-11-04 16:26
It's not a bad idea to give it to Asia. Asian teams took one map off c9 and won against 00Nation in a B03. It means they do have a bit of grit and are able to compete to an extent. If they give it to the Asia/Oceania region, it could give players and orgs more motivation to compete, as there is a higher possibility for them to make it to the major. This could really help the scene over there and if it doesn't work out then valve still has the ability to reduce the number of spots back to 2 by the following major, all good. (also 8 teams instead of 4 at the rmr makes a lot of sense).
2022-11-05 13:06
nah but i agree that someone said that asia/oceania rmr playoffs deserved 8 teams not 4
2022-11-04 16:29
3 replies
they def do, used to be that way before. Anyway I think the only way to revive Asian CS would be to bring regional EPL back
2022-11-04 16:31
asian scene is dead. It's sad cuz ihc and nkt was showing some really good improvement. Nkt will 2-0 both greyhound and rate atom anyday on LAN. The stupid format from valve keeps asian scene even more sad.
2022-11-05 02:21
1 reply
#509
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Australia Skycap
Asia scene had more heart at Major than common L NA scene
2022-11-15 14:49
deserved
2022-11-04 15:19
deserved
2022-11-04 15:19
Huge LLLLLL
2022-11-04 15:19
13 replies
hell no we don't need t7 teams in the major
2022-11-04 15:20
12 replies
If this cotinue then only Europe will be the only Region in CSGO
2022-11-04 15:21
11 replies
I responded wrong comment, but I am fine with that until other regions can prove their worth
2022-11-04 15:21
1 reply
“why do these regions that we don’t invite to international events not proving themselves at international events?”
2022-11-05 04:17
Nothing wrong with that, EU/CIS is more better to watch
2022-11-04 15:29
5 replies
I totally agree. Gamerlegions have a great map pool of two maps. I like how they play well in Ancient, vertigo. I would be nice to see Smooya mix pug at the majors.
2022-11-04 15:33
1 reply
Smooya mix is already better than anyone outside furia and liquid
2022-11-04 16:49
CIS is only good to watch if you want to fall asleep.
2022-11-04 15:39
2 replies
Only when they are playing against NA
2022-11-04 16:02
vitality vs outsiders is a sedative
2022-11-04 16:25
no because by default Asia is ensured 2 slots, america 3, and europe 3. That's Valve's way to make sure teams from everywhere have a chance to pave the way for their region. It's up to the teams to get to the next stage and gain more spots for their region though, no free lunch
2022-11-04 15:42
americas deserves a spot less in the major. however that spot should be given to asia
2022-11-04 15:47
As an American it sucks the odds of an NA team getting into the major has decreased, but also, they did it to themselves, would much rather see better t4 EU teams make it in and make things interesting. Besides Liquid and Furia should be able to make it in still.
2022-11-04 16:32
W
2022-11-04 15:19
Finally
2022-11-04 15:19
sadge
2022-11-04 15:19
#24
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Russia Stallex
finally good news
2022-11-04 15:19
Europe dominates AmeriLULca as usual
2022-11-04 15:19
2 replies
#34
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North America Camino
W
2022-11-04 15:20
#246
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United States f1nessd
Flag tho >:(
2022-11-04 16:27
lol
2022-11-04 15:20
#28
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Nepal Ekadeshcs
EU game
2022-11-04 15:20
#29
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Asia ke1fu
valve pls give the slot to asia to at least give those team a chance
2022-11-04 15:20
9 replies
tbf they haven’t proven they deserve a chance, always failing in the first stage of every tournament
2022-11-04 15:34
4 replies
#193
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United States charybids
Tyloo made it to Legends that one time
2022-11-04 16:04
2 replies
Renegades as well
2022-11-04 17:17
#454
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Philippines B3nk4i
Like 4 years ago
2022-11-05 04:29
rigged system gives cn and asia only 2 RMR slots for 6 teams that can make it
2022-11-04 21:51
if grayhound and ihc are this bad how bad are worse teams then them?
2022-11-04 15:40
3 replies
I watched their games and in some, they really looked okay, like really they played like they deserved their spots, but more often they just got rolled over by eu, but they didnt do that horribly considering they are not plying agains eu competition very often
2022-11-04 16:18
2 replies
#251
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Asia ke1fu
i think they just don't have much experience outside asia and also lack off lan experience full of crowd so they may be too nervous so i think if they have more opportunity in at least eu tier 2 they may get more experience and improve.
2022-11-04 16:30
1 reply
yeah, that one Au team tried to go to EU but failed misserably but I think all AU/Asian teams should spent at least few months a year in EU, would help them a lot
2022-11-04 17:41
#30
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France AcriuS
Does it mean one more for another region ?
2022-11-04 15:20
4 replies
#32
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North America Camino
Europe gets +1
2022-11-04 15:20
is asking in the comments easier than redading>
2022-11-05 08:48
2 replies
#481
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France AcriuS
yes =)
2022-11-05 14:45
1 reply
ok
2022-11-06 02:55
#31
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North America Camino
expected
2022-11-04 15:20
finally
2022-11-04 15:20
#35
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France P0vTr
W
2022-11-04 15:21
thats cool now have asia rmr with 8 teams
2022-11-04 15:21
lol
2022-11-04 15:21
#39
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United States Zake_
Ah, killing scene in americas even more. Even though their most successful major financially will be in the americas. Stupid volvo
2022-11-04 15:21
6 replies
Qualify and be succesful next time
2022-11-04 15:22
#55
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North America Camino
Americas should simply win more games
2022-11-04 15:24
This will only drive up the competition. NA teams beware, so many good SA teams over shadowing your teams already. Gotta get your game up
2022-11-04 15:27
#131
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Finland Kujis
Should they be rewarded for playing like shit? And actual regions that perform should be punished? LUL
2022-11-04 15:42
1 reply
Better regions are already punished. EU Road to Rio RMR A/B was way harder for EU teams, than Challengers stage.
2022-11-04 16:06
in one america, lulw na taking credits for brazil
2022-11-04 15:58
#40
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Sweden Cveta
Remove more tbh
2022-11-04 15:21
#41
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Brazil amceni
wtf?
2022-11-04 15:21
Valve scene killers If u want other regions development they need more support not less lmao 0 iq as always from valve
2022-11-04 15:21
3 replies
4 american teams getting eliminated in challengers stage isnt development kekw
2022-11-04 15:59
2 replies
#423
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Brazil Anarchybr
BO1s fluke
2022-11-04 22:47
1 reply
dude they lost hard with crowd hacks even IHC against insanely hacking 00N it was bo3
2022-11-05 08:37
#43
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Faroe Islands Lcebaby
nice
2022-11-04 15:21
Give the spot to Asia
2022-11-04 15:22
give 3rd to Asia
2022-11-04 15:22
#49
FASHR | 
France Ansi
kinda sad that a whole region lost a spot because a team didnt qualify in one single event, but hey: not my rules. My name is Ansi, and i approve this message.
2022-11-04 15:22
7 replies
why? look at their results. eu deserves much more slots, look how many good teams didnt make it to major cuz NA/SA got slots for bot teams astralis not in major g2 not in major meanwhile we have 9z and 00nation wot
2022-11-04 15:24
6 replies
Look at the current scene, all the t1 events are in EU, except 1 in NA and 1 in SA. How can you develop other regions rn ? It is a vicious circle. I'm okay to remove from NA, but give it to Asia. EU has enough rn. I prefer to see a "tyloo" version instead of mix pug with smooya.
2022-11-04 15:28
4 replies
#326
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El Salvador Bredalow
Na killed itself moving to valorant
2022-11-04 17:41
1 reply
True, but Asian and NA need a bare minimum to stay a bit relevant. I'm not hopium for a 2018/2019 NA scene (it was a bit shit back then too), but at least : 1 T1 team, 2 T2 teams and 1 or 2 t3 teams.
2022-11-04 17:43
honestly, not even about t1 tournaments in themselves, but all the practice against those teams too. Brazil has a good circuit to find new talents (a step better than NA) but they never fully develop because EU teams are so ahead on the meta practicing against each other, it's like those regions play 2 different games.
2022-11-05 04:44
1 reply
True. By events, I also meant practices for the events. In 2019, T2 NA/SA teams were a bit outdated with the meta, but not like that. Now, it is like Edward legend team vs Zywoo and his friend. This IHC look legit, but how can they become better rn ? The NA qualifier was just ridiculous. COL and EG vs Flom (with cooper) mix pug or momo/pluto mix.
2022-11-05 05:05
nt, Slovakia still bad at the game
2022-11-04 21:52
noice
2022-11-04 15:23
what about africa
2022-11-04 15:24
W
2022-11-04 15:24
sad but understandable
2022-11-04 15:24
#57
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United States snakedrake
Great give it to the place that already has the most, good showing Brazil…
2022-11-04 15:29
14 replies
your teams are shittier they legit lost to imperial and 00nation
2022-11-04 15:28
8 replies
#86
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United States snakedrake
That must be the reason why NA teams did better in the major so far then brazil
2022-11-04 15:30
7 replies
better = 1 win in challengers stage?
2022-11-04 15:32
6 replies
#95
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United States snakedrake
Liquid didn’t even need to play in challenger and also at lest EG didn’t finish in last like the Brazilian teams did
2022-11-04 15:33
5 replies
it's all tied up then, let's see what the performance will be in the legends stage
2022-11-04 15:35
3 replies
yes, but I think current Liquid might be better than Furia. Let's see anyway
2022-11-04 16:08
2 replies
#257
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North America Sike1289
they clearly are, if you think they "might be" then your just biased
2022-11-04 16:35
1 reply
#331
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El Salvador Bredalow
Idk they look a bit better recently but if you would put them against eachother i'd say its like 60-40
2022-11-04 17:48
dont jinx your direct to legends spot for the next major
2022-11-04 15:41
why didnt more usa teams qualify through rmr and did better than brazil teams
2022-11-04 16:00
4 replies
Brazilian teams literally had more slots in rmr than NA
2022-11-04 16:34
3 replies
That makes sense cause only liquid and eg are NA teams the rest is bots
2022-11-04 16:56
2 replies
Complexity are also there but, it won’t help NA by hindering there growth, we only have cash cups and league here in NA because Covid made all TO run away and they won’t return, we have 0 local events for teams who don’t have a lot of funding to grow
2022-11-04 17:15
1 reply
Complexity is shit. In NA maybe 3rd but against eu they have no chance :D Grim is good, Hallzerk better then junior but rest of team is bots. Fang is so overrated can play only against NA teams. Edit floppy is ok aswell. Should rebuild around Grim and Floppy and get new igl from eu if can't find in NA
2022-11-04 22:12
#58
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Russia HikZ
eu domination kekw
2022-11-04 15:24
ahahahaha
2022-11-04 15:24
Americas 3 spots would be enough
2022-11-04 15:25
Ryan@dust2 gonna mald hard
2022-11-04 15:25
FINALLY THEY UNDERSTOOD
2022-11-04 15:25
#64
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Brazil siphas
thank you EG, imperial, 9z and 00 for failing hard
2022-11-04 15:25
8 replies
#170
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Honestly , both Imperial and 00 disappointed hard . I was fully convinced that the crowd buff is gonna be immense for them but that wasn't the case and both teams completely dropped the ball .
2022-11-04 15:56
#200
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United States charybids
9z performed as well as you'd expect from them to be honest. EG disappointed a bit but 00Nation was just terrible, specially considering they had the home crowd. If Complexity had made it to Rio, they would have advanced and we wouldn't have lost the spot
2022-11-04 16:07
2 replies
Complexity bad. Liquid and eg the only decent na teams.
2022-11-04 16:57
#352
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Brazil MrLucas
Yeah, Imperial got though games (Vitality and C9) but 00 was a huge disappointment
2022-11-04 18:28
Lol, 9z is the only one that’s not guilty in here, they went 2-3 with less than half the budget of any of the other Americas teams. In any case, it’s EG's fault for losing to an "inferior" region, and it's definitely Imperial’s and 00’s fault for not having been able to win a single match playing on their own soil. Get your facts straight.
2022-11-04 18:22
3 replies
i agree
2022-11-04 20:12
0 IQ kids just bashing 9z because is not as famous as the rest of the teams, "hey, I don't know this team, the region performance has to be their fault, right?"
2022-11-04 21:56
#424
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Brazil Anarchybr
That’s true. 9z did better than 00 and Imperial since the RMR btw.
2022-11-04 22:50
POG
2022-11-04 15:25
DESRVED
2022-11-04 15:26
Not cool We need strong scene in America as well. Europe will always be good. That is why football WC biggest tournament there is, every time some tier8 teams playing there but following your own nation playing against the big countries will get you to watch the game more.
2022-11-04 15:26
1 reply
+1 I would prefer if they give the slot to an asian team. EU don't need that slot. Maybe, a other mix pug will reach the RMR.
2022-11-04 15:29
#70
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Saint Vincent and the Grenadines ALLAHTARES
Noice
2022-11-04 15:26
#72
hades | 
North America minte
thank you brazil
2022-11-04 15:27
9 replies
How is this Brazil fault NA teams legit lost to them
2022-11-04 15:29
5 replies
brazil omegalul
2022-11-04 15:37
#203
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United States charybids
If Complexity had made it to Rio, they would have advanced and we wouldn't have lost the spot. So 00Nation and Imperial ensured the region got one fewer spot by beating them at the RMR
2022-11-04 16:08
3 replies
But they didn’t because they lost to both 00nation and imperial at the RMR
2022-11-04 20:37
Complexity lost to the teams that went 0-3 and they would advance? copium harder
2022-11-04 20:58
1 reply
#409
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United States charybids
Total fluke. Complexity has proved they can play against EU tier 1 teams. Imperial lost, what, 15 Bo3s in a row?
2022-11-04 21:43
there's a reason why only 2 north american teams qualified and 4 from sa, don't cry now
2022-11-04 16:01
2 replies
#270
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North America Sike1289
thats what happens when NA was crippled by how NA orgs handled covid and all the younger talent left for valorant for it
2022-11-04 16:51
i never cry
2022-11-04 16:53
That’s acceptable, can’t complain about that. Europe does dominate
2022-11-04 15:27
5 too many
2022-11-04 15:28
expected, hope it will decrease to zero so american scene can die completetly and all tournaments will be in eu timezone
2022-11-04 15:29
12 replies
and then you will have 2 events per year, since all the big sponsors are in the US and all the fan base are in SA.
2022-11-04 15:31
10 replies
#165
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Finland Kujis
SA fan base won't be missed KKKK
2022-11-04 15:55
9 replies
Sure, enjoy your game with ESL cutting the budget everywhere. Yeah, org and players only live for the "love of the game". One chance we have the huge fanbase of Finland.
2022-11-04 15:57
Ye, one of the largest fanbases wont be missed, tell that to sponsors.
2022-11-04 21:02
#425
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Brazil Anarchybr
You guys can’t barely break 100k viewers when tier 1 EU teams are playing important events, do you really think CSGO can be profitable without SA fanbase? SA and CIS carry the viewers numbers of any event
2022-11-04 22:53
6 replies
#494
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Finland Kujis
Didn't care back in 2014, don't care now. KKKK stay out
2022-11-05 18:13
5 replies
#496
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Brazil Anarchybr
>Finland CS kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2022-11-05 18:45
4 replies
#497
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Finland Kujis
Yes, as seen by my flair >fan of Finland CS KKKKKKKK brainlet
2022-11-05 18:57
3 replies
#499
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Brazil Anarchybr
Who cares the team you cheer for, when talking about country you’rs suck at CS kiddo
2022-11-05 20:53
2 replies
#500
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Finland Kujis
Oh no, I care much. I am so patriotic and love Finland totally<3 KKKKKK ENCE 1 major final, 00nation 0
2022-11-05 20:57
1 reply
#502
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Brazil Anarchybr
Who cares about 00N? How many titles Finland CS?
2022-11-05 22:56
0/8
2022-11-04 15:55
GOOD
2022-11-04 15:30
it totally sucks when good eu teams cant qualify for the major and shit american/sa teams get to waist a spot. i wanna see the best play vs each other and dont care where they come from..
2022-11-04 15:31
stupid valve. instead of expanding the cs scene, they trying to restrict it within eu/cis only... if u dont give them enough chance, the regions will never be cs-developed.
2022-11-04 15:32
9 replies
NA had no good teams since 2019
2022-11-04 15:34
7 replies
neither hav austrelia/asia/africa. that means only europe has good quality teams.
2022-11-04 15:42
2 replies
#134
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United States cybonics
africa doesn't even get an rmr
2022-11-04 15:43
1 reply
exactly.... so if u dont provide them chance, they will never be devlped.
2022-11-04 15:46
#140
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United States 1Tuurtle
Liquid this year is good Liquid last year was a top 10 team Liquid in 2020 was still better than most others. EG in 2020 was still good Furia's always been good
2022-11-04 15:45
3 replies
but Furia is not NA!
2022-11-04 15:48
2 replies
#154
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United States 1Tuurtle
Hold up I thought he said Americas give me a second I forgot Im illiterate.
2022-11-04 15:51
#237
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United States cybonics
Furia's CSGO team operates in Miami tho
2022-11-04 16:23
Let them have 24 europe teams and play against each other like ESL minor. That's what they want
2022-11-05 02:32
should be 2 but ok
2022-11-04 15:34
asia -1 spot eu +1 spot please eu is more fun to watch than t3 america and asia
2022-11-04 15:34
3 replies
Nah asia has insane aimers the only thing lacking is tactics
2022-11-04 15:48
2 replies
thats why its not fun to watch
2022-11-04 15:49
1 reply
it is fun to watch because you can see asians player put insane clip. While europe became too much tactical and there is very few clutch happening now
2022-11-04 18:52
Deserved
2022-11-04 15:35
#105
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Europe dooddi
deserved
2022-11-04 15:35
#106
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United States zovint
undeserved
2022-11-04 15:36
#109
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Finland Emvi
Still 5 spots too many
2022-11-04 15:37
11 replies
#137
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United States 1Tuurtle
Finland moment
2022-11-04 15:44
9 replies
#139
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Finland Emvi
+1 havu and jano would both qualify in na
2022-11-04 15:45
8 replies
#142
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United States 1Tuurtle
For sure man. Just make Allu get NA citizenship and boom. Although wait, then they arent representing Finland anymore
2022-11-04 15:46
7 replies
#173
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Finland Emvi
I think kova could make it as well
2022-11-04 15:57
6 replies
#202
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United States 1Tuurtle
Only after they add a Swede
2022-11-04 16:08
5 replies
#214
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Finland Emvi
This would be the correct na way, get carried by foreigners
2022-11-04 16:12
4 replies
#215
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United States 1Tuurtle
lol. like both world wars
2022-11-04 16:12
3 replies
#223
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Finland Emvi
xdd we did most of the heavy lifting vs soviet union tbf. mustache man did assist
2022-11-04 16:14
2 replies
Heil mustache man
2022-11-04 16:57
#282
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United States 1Tuurtle
Finland was the real Axis hard carry
2022-11-04 17:01
agree
2022-11-04 15:53
#111
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Puerto Rico pain^
Let's goooo
2022-11-04 15:37
Fuck off
2022-11-04 15:38
4 replies
tbf you aren't affected at all
2022-11-04 15:53
3 replies
#205
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United States 1Tuurtle
"Americas will have one less major spot in paris after rio results"
2022-11-04 16:09
2 replies
yea but brazil > NA so its NA who will feel it
2022-11-04 17:11
1 reply
#301
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United States 1Tuurtle
eh, not really. Take a look at this RMR. 1st: NA 2nd: NA 3rd: SA 4th: Brazil 5th: Brazil 6th: Brazil So really, Brazil will be just as effected, seeing as if we had 5 spots for this major it would be 2 NA, 1 SA, and 2 Brazil. And of course they will feel a lost spot that seems rather obvious
2022-11-04 17:14
EU and CIS shouldn't have been teamed up. Now this slot distribution makes little sense, EU got everything and no competition or any interesting moves at all
2022-11-04 15:38
7 replies
no competition while teams like g2 or astralis arent even at the major? dont get that point
2022-11-04 15:45
6 replies
#156
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United States 1Tuurtle
He means slot distribution. If CIS and EU were still separated then the slots would constantly change, instead of one region just having a ton
2022-11-04 15:52
5 replies
Yeah exactly
2022-11-04 16:24
EU 5/7 CIS 2/2 Doesnt help SA/NA no matter if the slot is going to EU or CIS (if still separated).
2022-11-04 16:36
3 replies
#285
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United States 1Tuurtle
yeah, he's not trying to help NA/SA. He's simply trying to say that the distribution of slots would be more interesting and competitive if EU and CIS were seperated
2022-11-04 17:04
2 replies
Ya I get that point that they should be separated, but it wouldnt change anything. The slot would most likely still go to (solo-)EU. Which would not only be a disadvantage for NA/SA but also CIS who would basically have 1 less spot optional. But to finish this topic, i would have preferred that the slot would have stayed for NA for more growth opportunities. Strictly talking about it from a competitive standpoint, its fair to give it to EU tho.
2022-11-04 17:19
1 reply
#312
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United States 1Tuurtle
I also would've like NA to keep it, but this is what happens when your teams play bad. Not much you can do about it
2022-11-04 17:21
thats all on 00 and Imperial oldheads.
2022-11-04 15:38
2 replies
#239
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United States charybids
I can never forgive them for taking the spot away from Complexity (who would have qualified by the way) only to sh** the bed at home
2022-11-04 16:25
1 reply
coL and paiN.
2022-11-04 17:56
#116
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United States zovint
omfg
2022-11-04 15:39
#118
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Brazil Kohzito
Deserved Taco, Dumau and Latto 0-6 in majors Lost to IHC, shame
2022-11-04 15:39
If Furia and liquid hit champions stage he get the spot back?
2022-11-04 15:40
1 reply
No, but two legends spots
2022-11-04 15:55
Smart move from Valve
2022-11-04 15:41
good, G2 can make it next time
2022-11-04 15:42
Love how the community talks about how they all want to support the NA/BR scene but then proceed to do stuff like this just to ensure it never succeeds.
2022-11-04 15:42
5 replies
#136
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United States 1Tuurtle
Nothing wrong with basing the amount of spots at the years biggest event is based on performace
2022-11-04 15:44
just win more games ???
2022-11-04 16:05
2022-11-04 16:12
#236
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United States charybids
How many more 0-3 performances from NA/SA do you need before you realize they are wasted spots? 5/6 of the 0-3 teams in the last 3 majors have been from the Americas
2022-11-04 16:22
How does 1 spot less affect their success, the team success needs to come before major and when they are on the level they have 5 spots to try it.
2022-11-04 17:08
well deserved, na/sa have less good teams than eu
2022-11-04 15:42
#133
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United States cybonics
i have no words :((((((
2022-11-04 15:43
Sad
2022-11-04 15:43
2 Spots for Poland please. They cant qualify normally anymore.
2022-11-04 15:46
2 replies
Noooo, would be wasted spots
2022-11-04 16:13
#427
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Poland BAN_ANIME
don't do us like that men)))
2022-11-04 23:00
Finally
2022-11-04 15:47
russia: - all spots
2022-11-04 15:47
Asia should have more spot
2022-11-04 15:48
2 replies
Why
2022-11-04 15:54
1 reply
#216
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United States charybids
There are quite a few decent Asian teams missing from the major: Rare Atom, Lynn Vision, Tyloo, Wings Up
2022-11-04 16:12
lol bucholz system will be a fucking mess next year then. i'm sure the qualifiers format will change
2022-11-04 15:48
1 reply
#206
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United States 1Tuurtle
meh, the teams which go 3-0 and 3-1 make the major. seems simple
2022-11-04 16:09
#153
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Israel michnass
fair
2022-11-04 15:51
Deserved
2022-11-04 15:51
#157
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France Forcraw
Based Europa
2022-11-04 15:52
+1 to asia?
2022-11-04 15:52
+1 to cis?
2022-11-04 15:53
Wouldnt it be better to still have 2 rmr swiss systems in eu, and then put all the 2-3 teams in a final bracket where they can get the last spot?
2022-11-04 15:55
1 reply
Yes, not need to change groups or the format at all. Swiss is perfectly balanced. Just play out 1 more spot between the 2-3 teams and its done.
2022-11-04 17:20
nice
2022-11-04 15:56
TBH, i wanted the extra spot to go to asia. they deserve it more
2022-11-04 15:56
5 replies
+1. NA throw it, I don't mind, but I don't want a smooya mix at the major.
2022-11-04 15:59
2 replies
+1, maybe G2 or Astralis can make it in Paris xD
2022-11-04 16:02
1 reply
ahah true. Last last last chance spot. G2 or Astralis bribe Valve for it.
2022-11-04 16:04
eu really is the brainlet region I have seen so many people say asia deserves an extra spot like wtf are you smoking
2022-11-04 23:01
1 reply
U really wanna go 16>17 Instead of 2>3 I dont get that, lets make Cs more global, like LoL
2022-11-05 12:25
give spot to mongolia
2022-11-04 15:58
1 reply
#232
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United States charybids
Unironically this. There are teams in Asia that didn't qualify that are legit better than some of these SA teams in the major
2022-11-04 16:18
nice
2022-11-04 16:00
Deserved
2022-11-04 16:00
W
2022-11-04 16:00
Not a fan of this move personally
2022-11-04 16:01
South Africa/North Africa spots when
2022-11-04 16:02
5 replies
one spot should be good for noth africa at least , south has no scene
2022-11-04 16:06
4 replies
#210
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United States 1Tuurtle
JT, Sonic, ATK all South African. Meanwhile I've never seen a North African team
2022-11-04 16:11
2 replies
you named players from a single country , thats it , not a single team north you have moroco , algeria l tunisia , libya and egypt , full of local esports team and players north is much worth a spot then the privileged non representational south of africa offcourse both can compete in those , its just kinda hard giving the fact the distance from north and south is 10k km
2022-11-04 16:35
1 reply
#284
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United States 1Tuurtle
You want teams? Bravado, Nixuh, Blacklimanate (Or however it's spelled), DNMK, VYBN. Meanwhile North Africa, which has no teams.
2022-11-04 17:03
South has Nixuh, Bravado, Gullath wdym
2022-11-04 16:49
NA blaming SA but they allowed 00nation, imperial and 9z to qualify in RMR KEK
2022-11-04 16:03
3 replies
#212
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United States 1Tuurtle
Or did the NA teams throw because they figured the crowd buff would push 00 and Imperial through to the legends stage thus giving more spots, only to realize that the crowd buff did nothing?
2022-11-04 16:11
2 replies
I dont think NA teams or players can think that far
2022-11-04 17:07
1 reply
#295
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United States 1Tuurtle
Bro really forgot about how Liquid were always thinking about signing Yekindar since 2019 just to become tournament contenders heading into this major.
2022-11-04 17:09
#198
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Sweden frizzahh
Good
2022-11-04 16:07
Deserved. Mongolians better.
2022-11-04 16:08
WWWW
2022-11-04 16:10
No spot for Africa, Volvo rasista
2022-11-04 16:10
#209
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United States kalimbo
tarik come back save NA!!!
2022-11-04 16:10
Damn L :D
2022-11-04 16:11
good.....asia -1 spot when then?
2022-11-04 16:12
1 reply
#220
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United States charybids
Asia is already at the minimum amount of spots. There are 8 fixed spots: Asia-Pacific: 2 Americas: 3 Europe/CIS: 3 Then the remaining 16 spots are decided by previous performance
2022-11-04 16:14
Lul
2022-11-04 16:14
2 replies
#222
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United States charybids
2022-11-04 16:14
1 reply
Tyty
2022-11-04 16:15
So when asia 1 spor ? Both asia teams goes 0-3 ?
2022-11-04 16:14
1 reply
Asia includes Australia right now. So two continents.
2022-11-04 16:16
#224
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France d0py
DESERVED
2022-11-04 16:15
still too many
2022-11-04 16:15
why not just make a bracket of all six 2-3 teams from both rmrs to decide 17th place
2022-11-04 16:15
LUL This means that at the next EU RMR there will be 1 team that qualifies with the score of 2-3 I wonder how they will split the extra slot between RMR1 and RMR2
2022-11-04 16:16
1 reply
#245
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United States charybids
6 team bracket with the 2-3 teams, top team via Buchholz from each RMR gets a bye, IMO
2022-11-04 16:29
#230
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Finland AliSabid
Unluko
2022-11-04 16:17
#234
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Poland atzeON
give Asia +1 spot
2022-11-04 16:20
honestly even 5 spots is too much make it 4
2022-11-04 16:21
#249
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Brazil zinum
Imagine my shock
2022-11-04 16:29
That's fair, NA/SA teams are way below European teams
2022-11-04 16:31
#253
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Bashovski
based
2022-11-04 16:31
I mean yeah ofc, lets stop wasting spots. Liquid, Furia locks COL, EG, Imperial, 00nation, Pain, Fluxo, 9z, and other bots can all fight for last 3 spots since they wont do anything anyways
2022-11-04 16:36
I would separate the slots for both americas and eu just like in dota tbh would make more sense than having a bloodbath in eu and SA teams taking NA spots(they deserve them dont get me wrong). Most of the same teams will qualify anyway but that would ensure there will be both na and sa representants and eu teams wont carry the slots for cis teams who have like 3 good teams. Probably harder to calculate who gets more or less slots but im sure this can be done. Unfortunately unlike dota, the regions dont seem to have at least one team from each region that can fight for the high placemente tho
2022-11-04 16:39
#264
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Equatorial Guinea NkdKMS
Finally, It took longer than it should do
2022-11-04 16:45
#265
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United States Icysoda57
NA CS no infrastructure like EU or CIS + plus Valo stole every last bit of promising NA talent.
2022-11-04 16:46
#272
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United States dusq
deserved
2022-11-04 16:53
yeah valve, thats the right way to evolve international scene, taking out a spot from Americas. Why you dont take more 3 spots and give to europe, and call the tournament EUROMAJOR.
2022-11-04 16:56
Deserved for Americas, but would loved to see the extra spot go to Asia instead to help the asian scene grow.
2022-11-04 16:58
1 reply
2022-11-04 23:02
At least they would have given the spot to asia
2022-11-04 16:58
based valve GIGAchads, should ve been -2 americas, +2 europe, but guess that will happen next year :)
2022-11-04 17:01
1 reply
Yea, lets just drop a huge part of the csgo fanbase/viewership, just because Europeans have inflated ego.
2022-11-04 21:34
Sad for them but honestly this is the best choice for fair competition
2022-11-04 17:06
sad, but fair
2022-11-04 17:07
#302
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United States AuRoarA
Bro.. :(
2022-11-04 17:14
POG
2022-11-04 17:15
#314
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Brazil isbetter
It's sad, I understand, but very true though. We'll just have to fight our way through like we always did to earn the spots and make sure their are worth something
2022-11-04 17:24
should be 3.
2022-11-04 17:25
kinda weird see the 9z photo considering they gone even further from last major lol
2022-11-04 17:27
Thanks bra71L for qualifying for the major and absolutely shitting the bed. Should never have been in rio they can’t compete in T1 anymore
2022-11-04 17:28
3 replies
USA talking, there's 1 team from USA in legends stage (Liquid) and one from Brazil(Furia) and USA is by far the country that gets the most investment and still suck at the game.
2022-11-04 21:17
2 replies
'USA is by far the country that gets the most investment and still suck at the game' how can you possible claim that when NA has 2 paid teams and brazil has like 6 paid pro teams.
2022-11-05 02:57
1 reply
EG, COL, Liquid 3 already refuted + You guys have all the rich orgs, you used to have way more teams, but org onwers realized that USA are awful at csgo, so they hired Europeans instead, FaZe, C9. also 100t, CLG and a bunch others left cus americans bad, lul.
2022-11-05 03:04
#322
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Hungary szia
Thanks 9z, imperial, and 00nation
2022-11-04 17:39
2 replies
#328
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United States charybids
And EG, don't forget EG
2022-11-04 17:44
dont forget litterally every Americas team except for Furia and Liquid. If the teams that qualified to the major were trash I cant even imagine the teams that couldnt qualify.
2022-11-04 17:49
#323
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Poland Berbe123
Give it to Africa
2022-11-04 17:39
#330
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France Diodele
deserved
2022-11-04 17:46
#338
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Slovenia marcelyx1
THANK YOU VALVE
2022-11-04 18:00
now please add more spots for asia
2022-11-04 18:08
1 spot for african cs incomming
2022-11-04 18:12
Remove Asia CS for one place Still it will be IHC , Grayhound or another TyLoo Ends with max 1 win
2022-11-04 18:28
#355
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Brazil MrLucas
I would understand if they give the slot to asia, but giving another spot for EU is straight up stupid, as it will just end up with a tier 2 team that no one want to watch and will get eliminated early the same way
2022-11-04 18:32
6 replies
+1
2022-11-04 18:36
+1 They don't care Asia They give some attention to NA only because of USA rich people We, Asian are talented as same as eu, na bcoz we are also humans but we have no experience of high level competition. So, we struggle in tactics. Even our family hate eSports they think eSports is waste of time. One day, we will rise and we will conquer!
2022-11-04 18:56
if either grayhound or IHC had made legends stage they would have got 1 more spot if both made it they would have gotten 2 spots
2022-11-04 19:53
3 replies
#406
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Brazil MrLucas
You clearly didn't get my point
2022-11-04 21:34
2 replies
The system works as intended if you win you gain spots. I played around with it and Americas could have gotten 9 spots total and Asia 4 spots leaving eu at 11
2022-11-05 12:20
1 reply
#478
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Brazil MrLucas
I know how the system works, but my point is that it's flawed, teams results shouldn't be it's only parameters, but also viewership and regions development, otherwise there is a big risk that the game will remain popular in only one region (other games will take over the others) and it will loose it's overall relevance in the eSports scene
2022-11-05 13:20
Totally deserved Even 5 slots too many for dead region
2022-11-04 18:42
NA CS XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2022-11-04 18:50
Its okay, move to europe if u think ur better enough to classify there
2022-11-04 18:55
Good, there is at least 12 tier 1 teams from eu/cis (not counting OG,BIG and Spirit) and only 2 tier 1 teams from americas
2022-11-04 19:02
1 reply
12 TIER 1 teams Sanest EU fanboy
2022-11-04 21:14
Justice
2022-11-04 19:28
#374
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Bahamas CantBanMe
NICEEEE
2022-11-04 19:30
AMERICANS SO BAD AT PLAYING EVEN A VIDEO GAMES LMAOOOOOOOOOO
2022-11-04 19:34
if we try to be logic it's just one american team that made it to legends stage. Liquid got qualified from the RMR playing against AMERICAN teams
2022-11-04 19:37
Deserved
2022-11-04 19:56
#383
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United States Phamous3k
CSGO is going to be just Europe in 3 years.
2022-11-04 20:03
4 replies
Probably not. It shouldn’t be. We need the Americas region for the long term of CS. Don’t understand why so many Europeans want our scenes to die lol.
2022-11-05 00:25
2 replies
#462
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United States Phamous3k
Bruh I don’t get it lol. It’s weird af to be happy an entire region has less opportunity
2022-11-05 06:21
1 reply
Who knows. It’s just a European thing no matter what game it is. They make it a part of their lifestyle to hate NA.
2022-11-05 09:56
Yeah let them rot from inside and kill cs with hosting 24 europe teams major.
2022-11-05 02:41
Deserved.. Please europeans coaches learn portuguese..
2022-11-04 20:09
Hm this smells like bullshit
2022-11-04 20:12
Col would have done better results than imperial
2022-11-04 20:15
Now G2 or Astralis has more chances to qualify for the next major
2022-11-04 20:17
Thats actually good. Stockholm: 2 brazil teams 0-3 Antwerp: 1 team 0-3 / 1 team 2-3 Rio: 2 teams 0-3 Its literally waste of spots. I rather watch good competitive CS than BR teams
2022-11-04 20:30
2 replies
#397
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United States Icysoda57
You mean good EU CS*
2022-11-04 20:59
1 reply
Good CS = EU. #quickmaths
2022-11-04 21:07
Should be like this: 5 slots for Asia 2 slots for americas
2022-11-04 21:10
Deserved
2022-11-04 21:16
Ego inflated Europeans rather have more unknow EU teams that will go 0-3 anyway, than having teams with large fanbases from the Americas.
2022-11-04 21:41
1 reply
I don’t understand the hate people have for Americas in general lol.
2022-11-05 00:23
NA Lol
2022-11-04 21:51
EU literally have 16 spots, just give it to Asia wtf? These guys not even trying to revive the scene
2022-11-04 22:33
4 replies
why would asia get a slot? You guys suck more dick than NA
2022-11-04 23:05
3 replies
To be fair we need both scenes for the long term of CS.
2022-11-05 00:23
Liquid would get 1-3'd in challengers if Americas didnt get an automatic legends spot, your's suck more considering how bigger and more populated your region is
2022-11-05 03:31
1 reply
lol nt worst region in the world
2022-11-05 03:58
#426
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Brazil Anarchybr
Yikes. Americas RMR going to be a mess next year with only 5 spots up to grabs.
2022-11-04 22:59
Thank god. Trash region.
2022-11-04 23:19
2 replies
Rent free
2022-11-05 00:23
1 reply
Sure but your region is garbage and you deserved just one spot for TL (as per usual carried by EU btw)
2022-11-05 17:46
Should have given it to Asia realistically. We need both the Americas and Asia regions for the longevity or split NA and SA into different groups.
2022-11-05 00:26
#440
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Russia Reph
Valorant destroyed american scene. Sad but true.
2022-11-05 01:27
1 reply
and Brazil still better in Valorant than NA lmao
2022-11-05 03:11
Why tho? This is discrimination dude
2022-11-05 02:05
so ig there will be one less brazilian team at the major xd
2022-11-05 03:39
#455
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Philippines B3nk4i
Fair enough, when teams like 00nation go to the major and a team like g2 doesnt its a bit dumb to keep giving a slot to NA
2022-11-05 04:32
2 replies
Dude G2 lost to 1win, maybe give all the spots to EU then G2 can qualify LMAO.
2022-11-05 04:52
1 reply
#504
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Philippines B3nk4i
i mean shit man your not wrong.
2022-11-06 04:47
Even though I am not Asian, Asia deserved that spot. I mean I know it's based on how teams play on the major, but Idk I feel like Asian CS needs more support.
2022-11-05 05:15
#463
 | 
Europe nsk_11
Deserved
2022-11-05 06:28
nice
2022-11-05 08:24
well deserved
2022-11-05 10:41
#471
 | 
Uruguay qarp_cs
I can't believe it, on top of that they give the spot to Europe WTF, I would accept it if they gave the spot to Asia, but to Europe???
2022-11-05 11:31
Imagine if coL had gotten Imperials spot, this wouldnt be the case
2022-11-05 12:07
Big W, give EU +1 slot
2022-11-05 12:28
NA ☕
2022-11-05 12:36
Why not EU: 16 Slots NA: 3 slots SA: 2 slots ASIA: 1-2 slots OCE: 1-2 slots
2022-11-05 14:33
#482
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Denmark MAMS
Good :)
2022-11-05 14:51
Nice
2022-11-05 15:28
Less NA’s in Paris
2022-11-05 15:50
finally thank you csgo
2022-11-05 17:40
Yay a snowball effect. Coming soon, all major spots to Scandinavia only.
2022-11-05 18:28
1 reply
yeah its dumb
2022-12-01 23:38
NA CS OMEGALUL
2022-11-05 19:53
#501
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Faroe Islands Antjuan
Valve scene killers If u want other regions development they need more support not less lmao 0 iq as always from valve
2022-11-05 21:10
2 replies
Why bring more bot teams to the main event of the year If rmrs was internetional the only two teams on major would be liquid and furia anyway
2022-11-06 09:21
1 reply
to play vs better teams for more xp why do you think eu became dominant after covid all the top teams were there as well tournaments so top teams from NA had to be in eu which means the tier to that recently got left to valrant because esl took away americas pro league and basically told orgs and the player that earned a spot to get fucked and deal with so they said no I'm leaving for a new open scene one reason we need more events in NA is so teams like g2 navi outsiders can scrim vs the nouns strife and atk that spend there time in NA and is the top where no one to improve from since liquid furia and col are in eu 90% of the time and when are in NA there on vacation so literally nothing do improve they can do bad shit and not get punished because they're just better than the rest same goes for aisa and oce they just isolated
2022-12-01 23:48
RIP
2022-11-06 05:51
Expected+deserved+L+ratio+based
2022-11-06 09:19
5spots still too much
2022-11-06 09:24
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