ESIC lift HUNDEN ban

The former Heroic coach is once again free to participate in ESIC events following the removal of the ban that was supposed to last until August 2023.

The Esports Integrity Commission (ESIC) has announced that Nicolai "⁠HUNDEN⁠" Petersen is allowed to participate in ESIC-member events with immediate effect. The Commission has stated that the decision came "in light of a constructive engagement" between the two parties on November 29.

The statement says little about what the discussion between the two entailed other than that it resulted in HUNDEN agreeing to undertake "relevant training" and in ESIC promising to "review its policies and procedures to ensure they are consistent with good industry practice and fit for purpose."

HUNDEN is free to compete again

HUNDEN himself has released a brief statement on Twitter, thanking his lawyers for "guiding me through what has been a difficult period," suggesting he challenged his ban through legal counsel.

The case relating to the investigation into HUNDEN no longer features in ESIC's public Open Investigations Register, where the watchdog shares findings and decisions regarding the cases they undertake.

HUNDEN was banned on August 19, 2021 for breaching ESIC's Code of Conduct, after he was found to have shared confidential material from Heroic's strategy folders with a member of a competing team ahead of IEM Cologne that year.

At the time, ESIC saw the act of sharing the folder alone as a threat created to the integrity of an ESIC-member event despite the fact that the recipient never opened the sensitive material in question, and decided to ban the 31-year-old Dane for two years.

Before being slapped with the two-year ban, HUNDEN had served an eight-month sentence stemming from ESIC's investigation into the use of the infamous coaching bug, for which around 40 coaches have been banned to date and which is still believed to be ongoing over two years since it began.

Denmark Nicolai 'HUNDEN' Petersen
Nicolai 'HUNDEN' Petersen
Age:
31
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.81
Maps played:
1578
KPR:
0.55
DPR:
0.70
#1
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Norway r0meo
W
2022-12-02 08:44
11 replies
G2 Hunden incoming
2022-12-02 08:45
9 replies
#33
Snax | 
Europe Jezynt
Why would he downgrade
2022-12-02 08:53
7 replies
Well considering he's currently been working behind the scenes for Astalis, it's probably still an upgrade lol
2022-12-02 09:09
4 replies
God Hunden is back in business
2022-12-02 09:35
I'd rather work behind the scenes for Astralis than joining G2 for whatever role.
2022-12-02 13:26
#304
NAF | 
United States Grimly
elaborate por favor how has he been working for astralis
2022-12-02 20:24
1 reply
dexerto.com/csgo/astralis-continued-work.. They supposedly hired him for some menial work, but he was probably doing analyst and/or talent scouting stuff
2022-12-02 21:11
#83
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Japan horaaa
i like this downgrading from the very bottom
2022-12-02 09:29
1 reply
Not playing at all>playing for g2 in any way
2022-12-02 10:31
-hooxi +hunden 😉🤣
2022-12-02 10:59
#129
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Germany _car
Ez 4 Astralis now
2022-12-02 10:21
#2
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Other Zollbit
If he join Astralis I'm done
2022-12-02 08:44
22 replies
#24
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United Kingdom mussel25
2022-12-02 08:49
19 replies
#62
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Serbia Ljannister
He is being paid via 3rd party on a platform which receipients are unknown so I would not be too harsh on Astralis here unless they sign him
2022-12-02 09:12
9 replies
#103
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Finland quton
Yes and Jack Etienne did not buy 5 players and a coach from Gambit, right
2022-12-02 09:45
8 replies
Totally a different thing
2022-12-02 10:11
7 replies
You're right, it's worse? He bought F_1N, a confirmed cheater.
2022-12-02 13:33
4 replies
Totally worse. Buying the cheater and face the wraith vs hiding the fact that you're hiring a cheater. Shroud is the best player in csgo. Btw, im good to have bias opinion toward my nationality. Tldr astralis has the worst pr bullshit ever.
2022-12-04 01:12
3 replies
bit weird but +1 to everything nontheless
2022-12-04 01:26
2 replies
Thanks. Both are scumbag tbf. I just don't like how astralis deal with anything. -We believe in Lucky. 2 day after, farlig joined the team. -we will create a new meta with a 7 man roster. Bubzki is becoming a good cs analyst. -hunden cheated against us. We want actions. Hunden joins astralis as a third party.
2022-12-04 01:41
1 reply
Just imagine how weird it was, and would be, for gla1ve who had been very outspoken against both HUNDEN and the Heroic players. Also a bit weird by Nyholm all things considered twitter.com/nikolaj/status/1311701712495..
2022-12-04 01:49
not really, both are still gonna get paid by orgs
2022-12-02 16:32
1 reply
2022-12-04 01:12
#71
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Other Zollbit
Yeah but that feels a bit like standard Astralis shenanigans, if he becomes the coach it'll just be a big F you
2022-12-02 09:19
7 replies
like they care about you
2022-12-02 10:10
1 reply
#137
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Other Zollbit
what?
2022-12-02 10:27
Hunden is 100% going to be announced as Astralis head coach by Christmas. Give it 2 weeks.
2022-12-02 10:56
4 replies
gonna reply here in 2 weeks, Astralis already signed a new coach to their talent team which means Casle is more than likely to stay as head coach.
2022-12-02 13:13
2 replies
#230
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Brazil ZerongBr
maybe they will transition casle to analysis or put him in the academy team and the new signed coach to analysis, you never know, when astralis wamts things done their way they do whatever it takes
2022-12-02 13:47
casle is still valve banned though? can't coach at major
2022-12-02 16:33
Then rip Astralis (already rip btw)
2022-12-03 19:08
Wtf it's happening?
2022-12-02 14:36
I’m betting he is going to join Astralis, kinda obvious
2022-12-02 11:17
+1
2022-12-03 12:32
Bruh
2022-12-02 08:45
#4
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Norway Snaids
Astralis hunden?
2022-12-02 08:45
15 replies
thats what i was thinking too. has to be
2022-12-02 09:21
I dont think such org would want to hire a coach with such controversial past. Especially right after the moment he is finally free. Look what happened to k0nfig, that's way worse imo.
2022-12-02 09:34
13 replies
... they already pay him as a consultant
2022-12-02 09:43
#101
jks | 
Australia bryte
Look at the org, when do they ever make smart decisions
2022-12-02 09:44
9 replies
#111
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Spain sary44
fr they have been doing some bad decisions lately
2022-12-02 09:57
7 replies
#156
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Denmark Almoe
signing a non 20 adr awper for once, bad move
2022-12-02 10:52
6 replies
#245
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Spain sary44
if u mean the device signing that one is good i guess, but all the things theyve done before, like all the coach shuffle, its not what you would call a good decision, feels like they are doing trial and error tbh
2022-12-02 14:44
5 replies
#246
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Denmark Almoe
yeah why dont they know which coach will be perfect for them before trying them out lmao they are so dumb
2022-12-02 14:46
#250
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
losing device dupreeh & magisk was tough +blameF was a good move +k0nfig was okay -k0nfig was dumb xyp9x was being called to be kicked but now hes doing decently so ig keeping him was a good move not picking up acoR, nicodooz or any other decent awper was a bad choice. +device is a freebe but is probably good so overall they havent made the worst decisions
2022-12-02 14:51
3 replies
#274
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Spain sary44
this is just my opinion, but when es3tag was on the team, I though it would be Astralis 3.0, the lineup being: device, dupreeh, magisk, glaive and es3tag. Also imo xyp9x at that time and lately hasnt performed very well. Now that I think about it Ive heard that NIP was going to become full swedish again, maybe after the next player break, so maybe es3tag goes to Astralis? Just throwing ideas idk
2022-12-02 16:38
2 replies
XD ezetag speaks Swedish u. Learly have no clue what u talking they wwnt English. Cause of Aleksib and brollan sucks rn cause he left fnstic to play full zwedish but still better cause he can plsy in scandinavia most likely as all members fromm there.but they wont go full Swedish any time soon.
2022-12-03 14:50
1 reply
#345
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Spain sary44
First of all, I didnt say they were going to go full swedish, I literally say "I heard that they will go full swedish" so Im not implying that they will. Second, es3tag knows swedish but hes danish. And third, learn how to properly write ;)
2022-12-03 22:06
You're saying dumb decisions let them majors? If so I hope they make more of those and it also means what you call smart decisions must be way worse than dumb.
2022-12-05 21:25
#152
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Norway Snaids
to me they are still in panic mode so i don't see it as a move they wouldn't do
2022-12-02 10:47
Astralis will be Astralis
2022-12-02 10:57
#5
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United States GiantDays
lmao lets go
2022-12-02 08:45
I guess time for him to join Astralis
2022-12-02 08:45
1 reply
Officially join astralis that is
2022-12-02 12:34
Now unban Guerri and apoka
2022-12-02 08:45
12 replies
#36
nqz | 
Canada qui9
That's valve ban not ESIC ban
2022-12-02 08:53
11 replies
is it??
2022-12-02 09:44
10 replies
Well yes but actually no.. Valve banned them just because ESIC banned them.
2022-12-02 10:15
9 replies
But if ESIC unbans, will valve also?
2022-12-02 10:25
8 replies
#138
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Canada dlamb
no
2022-12-02 10:27
I doubt that.. Both of their ESIC bans already ended.
2022-12-02 10:32
1 reply
äight fair enough
2022-12-02 10:34
#231
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Brazil ZerongBr
esic already did their unban of them, thats why guerri can stay behind them in blast, epl, esl challenger etc but he cant at the major, valve still follows that 1st esic ban (of them being banned for life, not guerri tho but its many majors) and not their revised one
2022-12-02 13:49
3 replies
oh okay, so its just valve who are stupid
2022-12-02 15:11
2 replies
#259
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Brazil ZerongBr
yeah, precisely
2022-12-02 15:39
No , ESIC after the 1st ban started doing and having some stupid controversies non related to the first ban. Some coaches were banned after the 1st ban wave by Valve never made those coaches banned by the majors because of all the controversie with ESIC. Valve just though that the first ban wave was reasonable (which was). Guerri ban from ESIC was removed because he helped them working with the bug after his ban. He didn´t help Valve or Valve never had some reason to remove his ban. Valve never removed someone's coach ban , why would they remove Guerri one? (There were more players from ESIC getting their ESIC ban removed).
2022-12-02 17:32
Esic bans are only lifted because everyone threatened to sue them for inconsistent punishments. Not a single one of those unbanned is actually innocent.
2022-12-03 05:57
astralis announce that hunden is the real coach already
2022-12-02 08:45
Bruh, aint no way
2022-12-02 08:46
ayo?
2022-12-02 08:46
Welcome back king 👑
2022-12-02 08:46
#13
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Israel michnass
Wtf?????
2022-12-02 08:46
#14
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Israel michnass
2022-12-02 08:46
huh?
2022-12-02 08:46
#16
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Albania aplasa
lmao
2022-12-02 08:47
finally
2022-12-02 08:47
#19
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Australia poppyxox
whaaaat
2022-12-02 08:47
ban harte coach havu
2022-12-02 08:47
2 replies
Xarte has done nothing
2022-12-02 08:54
1 reply
That's the problem
2022-12-02 09:19
#21
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Finland krep
Wtf
2022-12-02 08:47
GOAT
2022-12-02 08:48
AHHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
2022-12-02 08:48
Waiting for g2 announcement any second
2022-12-02 08:49
1 reply
#56
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Kyrgyzstan roflinka
KEKW
2022-12-02 09:07
GOAT IS BACK
2022-12-02 08:50
lmao... esic is a joke fr fr
2022-12-02 08:50
#28
sh1ro | 
Other Paami
That's so unfair to robban and guerri.
2022-12-02 08:52
5 replies
Those are just valve bans, not ESIC. They can coach any event outside of majors and qualifiers.
2022-12-02 08:56
3 replies
But Valve banned them because of ESIC banned them... They were still banned by ESIC for something they didn't do.
2022-12-02 10:00
2 replies
The entire controversy is Valve's fault y'know, since the bug was there in the first place after fucking years. Don't let Valve get a free pass here. ESIC, regardless of what you think of them, were just there to investigate the mess that Valve had made.
2022-12-02 13:42
1 reply
I know, rn I am just talking about these few specific cases like Robban and gueri, who didn't abuse the bug, but ESIC banned them anyway. Valve didn't do any investigation, they just banned coaches based on ESIC bans. Don't forget other ESIC fuck ups like when they banned Peacemaker few days before Antwerp and unbaned him right after Major ended.
2022-12-03 09:49
#299
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Finland dvlx
robban was banned for 2 majors he's unbanned now
2022-12-02 20:01
Esic lifts ban from hunden while matchfixings are happening every day xd
2022-12-02 08:52
lmao
2022-12-02 08:52
POG HEROIC WON BLAST FINAL, along with Hunden ban uplifted, This made my week
2022-12-02 08:53
#32
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CIS I_D_R_C
G2 HUNDEN pls
2022-12-02 08:53
ESIC is even worse than FIFA..
2022-12-02 08:53
#35
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India XerNia
+HUNDEN to Astralis
2022-12-02 08:53
No serious team is going to touch HUNDEN anyway I hope, so won't matter.
2022-12-02 08:53
14 replies
You would be surprised…
2022-12-02 08:58
1 reply
Yeah, we'll see I guess :-)
2022-12-02 08:58
Yeah but the not serious ones like Astralis will.
2022-12-02 09:07
that's why he's working for Astralis
2022-12-02 09:32
1 reply
+1 Astralis clown org.
2022-12-02 13:24
#104
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Kosovo Maltin
You think they lifted Hundens ban all of a sudden? There has been lobbying from a powerful org, most likely Astralis in this case. So him being signed from a famous org is for certain.
2022-12-02 09:46
3 replies
Well, if the ban time ends, then the ban is lifted, right? Doesn't mean there's any lobbying behind that. Astralis might need a cheater in their org to get back to their glory days, but are they willing to drag their brand in the HUNDEN dirt? What says that he won't do the same thing again in the future?
2022-12-02 10:16
2 replies
#170
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Kosovo Maltin
The ban was lifted ahead of time so it did not expire (thats why this is a news). I fully agree that signing Hunden would damage their reputation, but it seems like they are willing to pay the price considering how much he brings to the team in terms of tactics
2022-12-02 11:18
Astralis's reputation is rock bottom anyway, only being surpassed by heroic...if you actually think they have any morally driven doubts signing him now that they can, youre really naive.
2022-12-10 10:53
I mean Astralis probably helped with lawyers since he's already under their org
2022-12-02 12:47
3 replies
holy shit the conspiracy morons are already working overtime on these forums hahahahaha Hundens got banned for a specific period of time, this date was announced already when he recieved his ban similar to when RobbaN from faze, Guerri from furia, F_1N from gambit/C9, pita from NIP recieved their bans....
2022-12-02 13:16
2 replies
"With the two-year ban already in effect as of August 25, 2021 and running through until August 24, 2023, HUNDEN will be ineligible to compete in any ESIC member events, including ESL, DreamHack, WePlay, BLAST, Relog, and those run by a number of other organisers." My Danish calendar hasn't yet reached August 24th of 2023. Buddy... Why don't you look up simple things before stating "facts", that's just silly. What did you think the following meant? "The Esports Integrity Commission (ESIC) has announced that Nicolai "⁠HUNDEN⁠" Petersen is allowed to participate in ESIC-member events with immediate effect. The Commission has stated that the decision came "in light of a constructive engagement" between the two parties on November 29." That is literally the first paragraph in this article, will you just not read anything?
2022-12-03 13:15
Ahhhhh can you read? Lmao. One of the first things thats written is that the ban was supposed to last till 08.23... in my calendar its still December 2022. Before insulting others, please do read the actual article, lolz.
2022-12-10 10:50
You would be surprised how corrupt orgs can be.
2022-12-02 16:09
LMFAO
2022-12-02 08:54
i love being awake at 3AM astralis coach soon? ESIC bunch of frauds lmao
2022-12-02 08:56
goat
2022-12-02 08:59
#45
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Singapore 2200DPI
#beheroic
2022-12-02 09:00
Someone should check ESIC's integrity.
2022-12-02 09:00
2 replies
They would have to find it first.
2022-12-02 09:07
#70
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New Zealand Chicken_RD
ESICIC
2022-12-02 09:19
#48
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Germany RIP_MY_NIP
ESIC do something good for once, saving Hunden from not only himself, but Cadian as well
2022-12-02 09:02
so this show was for nothing?
2022-12-02 09:04
#50
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Ukraine freskohq
WHAT?? HAAHHAHAHHAA
2022-12-02 09:05
ESIC has done nothing but make itself and everyone involved in it look like a joke, what an embarrassment to the scene probably even more of an embarrassment than Hunden himself at least the fruits of his awfulness lead to a decent team.
2022-12-02 09:06
2 replies
Esic is the same as classic cops u always see in movies or real life If it goes with money or big org they will move. If its some low tier shit they won’t even give a damn and probably join the scam scene
2022-12-02 09:17
1 reply
And also when in the game enters someone who knows the law too (like hunden's agencies) so you can't just make a statement without bold proofs and put a carrier of a man on hold
2022-12-02 09:27
finally good news
2022-12-02 09:07
UNBAN ZONER
2022-12-02 09:07
1 reply
+1
2022-12-02 09:11
Time to punish the heroic players
2022-12-02 09:09
G2 HUNDEN LETS GOOOOOOO
2022-12-02 09:09
I'd ban his shady ass for good 😆
2022-12-02 09:10
WELCOME TO ASTRALIS HUNDEN THIS TEAM NEED UR CHEAT TO WIN!
2022-12-02 09:16
Why???
2022-12-02 09:16
#65
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Spain moorakami
How much did he pay them?
2022-12-02 09:17
#66
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Serbia Ljannister
Esic events =/= majors
2022-12-02 09:17
Welcome back GOAT!
2022-12-02 09:18
ppl saying g2 while he's obv going to astralis lol
2022-12-02 09:19
1 reply
he's already working for them ever since he got let go from Heroic
2022-12-02 09:34
disgusting
2022-12-02 09:20
Cheater is back !
2022-12-02 09:22
#77
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Hungary ShadYyBoy
THE GOAT IS BACK!!!
2022-12-02 09:23
#78
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Bermuda Nalax
wtf
2022-12-02 09:23
oh noooooooo
2022-12-02 09:26
Esic incompetent as always
2022-12-02 09:28
#84
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Indonesia ycrows
LFG
2022-12-02 09:29
#85
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Poland mimsonqq
Top1 igl is back
2022-12-02 09:31
Legend.
2022-12-02 09:31
#87
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Norway TheDEA
Ok
2022-12-02 09:32
#89
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United Kingdom _xC4ctus
HUNDEN DID NOTHING WRONG
2022-12-02 09:32
HUNDENSOHN IS BACK
2022-12-02 09:33
Astralis coach
2022-12-02 09:34
Hunden to Astralis POG
2022-12-02 09:37
#98
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Sweden Niloist
Rare Hunden W.
2022-12-02 09:40
Hunden - gigachad that didnt cry on camera after the bug Heroic - cringe soy boys that act like hunden was the only one bad guy and they werent involved
2022-12-02 09:43
#105
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Russia mshkoda
Astralis chance to get some strats
2022-12-02 09:49
"Constructive Engagement" a.k.a. paid a pretty penny.
2022-12-02 09:52
1 reply
#131
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Germany _car
Aka threatened them with legal actions probably
2022-12-02 10:23
GOAT
2022-12-02 09:52
Esic are equally hated by cheater defenders AND cheater accusers
2022-12-02 09:54
#109
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Sweden Cveta
Nice cheater being unbanned let’s go after bribing esic. Esic looking more and more like FIFA.
2022-12-02 09:55
4 replies
if Pita, robbaN, Guerri, F_1N and the rest of the cheating coaches got unbanned then why shouldnt hunden
2022-12-02 13:17
3 replies
#282
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Sweden Cveta
They obviously shuldnt mr whataboutist and half the names you mentioned wasnt even cheating on purpose
2022-12-02 17:22
2 replies
pita admitted to it and apologized. F_1N was one of the worst abusers of the bug and have never made any statement about it. Guerri can say what he wants, the videos of him sitting in the bugged spot turning his camera back and forth is skechy AF. I would only tend to believe robban cause they got destroyed so hard in that game, but it's still weird AF for a coach to suddenly be AFK in an entire matchup.
2022-12-02 17:36
1 reply
for Robban - igl might be more crucial in calling/pause breaks (idk who was igl at the time, so I could be wrong). Robban strikes me as more of a hype man, especially in the online games. Again, I could be wrong, I know he is a legend.
2022-12-03 17:39
#110
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Finland HARD4ENCE
Astralis will probably sign him, regardless of the fact that it's bad pr for the org. But yeah, people in the business tend to have no dignity what so ever.
2022-12-02 09:57
1 reply
i seriously wouldnt count it out the past has shown cheaters just have to cry on camera and everyone forgets so maybe astralis will use that strat for hunden
2022-12-02 10:15
Return of the King
2022-12-02 10:03
GOD HUNDEN IS BACK POG
2022-12-02 10:08
He should have got lifelong ban. Period. And even shorten his already short ban, just disgusting.
2022-12-02 10:09
f*ck esic f*ck hunden and even more, f*ck cadian, teses & stavn for getting away without any consequences just by posting a video of themselves crying that raised more questions than it answered
2022-12-02 10:14
19 replies
Exactly!! Even the org should be banned forever At this point everybody should just cheat in csgo, there is literally no consequences at all this whole game is a fcking joke with the dogshiit anti-cheats (including faceit, esea) ID or passport verification is needed and banning cheaters forever
2022-12-02 12:25
+1
2022-12-02 12:58
3 replies
>fan of F_1N
2022-12-02 13:47
2 replies
1 map for few rounds + i became fan when they were under groove Whataboutism
2022-12-02 13:57
1 reply
Ivan "⁠F_1N⁠" Kochugov (6) - 8.75 months (12.50%) >1 map for a few rounds :DDDD F_1N was always under the the Gambit banner, even when we was banned. He also became a coach again when he was unbanned, but I guess you intentionally forgot that?
2022-12-02 14:06
your flair is literally a bug abusing player who recieved no punishment for purposefully abusing a bug in game LMFAO the fucking hypocricy. But yeah i suppose players should be perma banned cause their former coach bug abused on 2 maps that they lost several years ago, great logic
2022-12-02 13:27
10 replies
the bug BIG used was in the game for years and approved by valve and the tournament organizer. BIG did literally break not a single rule. they even agreed to not use it anymore when all teams cried, even though it was still allowed. inform yourself better before trying to talk shit
2022-12-02 13:57
9 replies
used for years and approved? yeah that's why the entire scene went crazy when they saw BIG use it a major. And valve did certainly not allow it that's utter BS it was a clear misuse of an exploit which gave BIG a very big advantage. And while we're talking about using it for years, coaches like Pita was found guilty of using the bug exploit back in 2016 and banned for it, even reported it to Valve who did nothing, you low IQ sperg.
2022-12-02 14:58
8 replies
it wasnt used for years, it was in the game for years. now your reading is lacking as well. the bug was publicly known - unlike the coaching bug. BIG used it openly and didn't hide it. Because it was allowed. It was OFFICIALLY allowed and hltv published news about it here: hltv.org/news/21053/crouch-jump-bug-offi.. you cannot compare this at all to a bug that was clearly forbidden and secretly used without telling anyone. on top of that every snake tried to make their way out of it by bad excuses.
2022-12-02 16:12
7 replies
the coaching bug was literally reported all the way back in 2016, numerous coaches had made Valve aware of it and coaches got banned for using it all the way back to 2016-2020. In no way did Valve allow that bug just retarded PGL the same useless TO that also allowed m0nesy to use an even more extreme bug basically nullifying an existing smoke from window on mirage despite it still being there from the opponents side. It was an obvious exploit and just like Valve should have stepped in when the coach bug was reported in 2016 they should have done so with the jump bug. Yeah you're right i cannot compare it, because one case is the players themselves abusing it, which cannot even be discussed. Another case is trying to incriminate players for what their coach did. Answer me this, if you are so sure they were all in it then why didnt the abuse it every chance they got? why only on one map against astralis that they still lost and another against Team Spirit where they went 4-8 during the rounds it was "active" ???
2022-12-02 17:14
6 replies
the coaching bug was reported be hind the scenes and not everyone, not even every team knew about it whereas the jump bug was public knowledge and - once again - OFFICIALLY ALLOWED. BIG even had counterplays for it when their opponents tried to abuse it against them! ahhh come on, its pointless arguing with you because you just dont see the point. but you can be sure that if tabsen or anybody else wouldve been involved in the coaching bug or a scandal of equal size i sure as hell wouldnt support them anymore. go on and look for excuses for your cheating idols but dont bother me with it anymore
2022-12-02 19:05
5 replies
im not looking for excuses im just calling out obvious hypocrism, do you also talk about C9/gambits coach bug abusing or how about navis former coach? or nips or furias? The idea that heroic is somehow way worse when first of all 2 of their current players werent even on the roster back then and secondly hunden didnt even use it close to as much as many of the other guys but somehow is the main villain in all of this is fking insane. Why do you think it was such a big talking point if the entire scene had agreed to use it and everyone was fine with it? it wasnt seen in official matchups until that major.
2022-12-02 20:18
4 replies
every coach you mentioned at least had to face some sort of consequences and on top of that guerri was most likely even innocent. heroic is still fielding 3 players that were clearly involved in the incident and none of them was even banned a single day. it baffles me that they did shit like that because they clearly do not need to cheat to play good counter strike. the jump bug was a big talking point for the entirety of two days - until everyone agreed to not use it. as i said BIG were not the only ones using it in that event but clearly the only ones that prepared for it and used it that heavily. i'm not saying i like what they did there but officially they just did nothing wrong, it was accepted by the TO, it was publicly known and every other team was able to use it as well - people compared it to one-way smokes back then.
2022-12-03 00:20
3 replies
they recieved a minor slap on the wrist. Funny how you keep going on about how the players were "clearly involved" when the ESIC report stated the exact opposite of that? Go and watch gambit/C9 vods of the rounds where their coach F_1N used the bug and tell me that isnt 10000 times more incriminating than any heroic match ever. Yet i doubt u ever cared enough to look into that, you're just jumping on the heroic hate train cause hUurR CheaTeRs hurrr duurrr. If they were in on it they were extremely bad at using it, going 4-8 against TS and losing the map against Astralis. Accepted by a moron TO isnt an excuse what so ever, they also accepted m0nesys smoke bug abuse which was clearly a violation of the integrity of the game. And not all teams used that jump bug, not even close to it in fact if i remember correctly some teams started using it against BIG only due to being made aware that BIG were actively using it every chance they got.
2022-12-03 09:17
2 replies
ESIC is a shitshow. they removed their verdict on hunden just yesterday from their website because he threatened with legal actions. does that mean it never happened? the heroic core admitted they knew of at least one incident, decided not to report it and even helped hunden with the setups afterwards anyway? like wtf i wonder why you always have to talk about other players, teams coaches and bugs when this topic is about heroic. distracting from the main point or giving other examples does not make their behaviour better. and not making max benefit out of it or being "bad" at cheating does not make it better either. i'm not jumping on any hate train and despite the heroic case clearly being the biggest one because of all the drama surrounding it, i despise everyone of the individuals that were evidently involved in the whole coaching bug. but i would even WANT to like heroic because they clearly play good counter strike but i cannot cheer for a team with three clear cheaters that faced no consequences we're running in circles here
2022-12-03 14:02
1 reply
they admitted to him telling them about it after the astralis map how the fk does that incriminate them, you really think being told someone else had used a bug in game should get the players banned like wtf lol. Again, because of the obvious hypocrisy, no1 cares that gambits coach bug abused to no end and still works with them, no1 cares that 2 of navis former coaches bug abused, no1 cares that nip did it that m0nesy was caught ruining a game in a major with an obvious bug abuse, yet when it comes to heroic and hunden everyone involved should apparantly be sentenced to death lmfao.
2022-12-03 18:43
+1 everybody fucked around Heroic played themselves the unknowing victim despite knowing that their coach was abusing a game breaking bug Hunden literally sold his team's stratbook lmao And esic is just founded on double standards, they don't even know their own policy clear enough
2022-12-02 13:26
+1
2022-12-02 13:40
+1
2022-12-03 21:42
#125
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Europe Nictake
Isn't he still banned from valve events?
2022-12-02 10:15
Why do people even take ESIC seriously? They are completely useless. All they do is crying about not having enough people to do a decent job while litteraly doing nothing or wrongfully banning people who had the coach bug for 1 round and reported it. Bozos can't even catch tier 3 using radarhack and soft aim
2022-12-02 10:19
respect
2022-12-02 10:19
ESIC smart mens)
2022-12-02 10:23
#133
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Europe Vensq
Huge L
2022-12-02 10:24
#134
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Norway HologramM
ESIC ...
2022-12-02 10:24
1 reply
He goes to Astralis I bet
2022-12-02 23:40
#136
JW | 
Sweden EntonXD
This mf
2022-12-02 10:25
GOAT IS BACK! Heroic fix: Xizt analyst Hunden coach POG
2022-12-02 10:30
6 replies
#142
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Georgia g3ks1
He already worked on astralis and there was info that he was reall astralis coach, but cause ban was signed like a media-project worker. So i expect hunden - new main coach of astralis
2022-12-02 10:31
2 replies
false, he was hired to do tutorial videos for pixel.tv a site owned by astralis, he never coaches astralis despite how badly drunken lewis wanted to push that narrative with 0 proof other than "hE wAs SeEn At AsTraLiS hQ" lmfao
2022-12-02 13:24
Astralis SHOULD snatch him up ASAP!
2022-12-02 20:50
No? They are 1 in the world with xizt, no need to change anything :D But im guessing this is just a troll/joke :D
2022-12-02 13:03
2 replies
They were also top1 in the world with hunden, he makes more sense as a coach because they can all speak 100% pure Danish during tense games. Hunden may even be the stronger coach as well, but I do love xizt and he is goated so that is why heroic keep him as analyst and still bring him everywhere.
2022-12-02 20:50
1 reply
R u dumb? He leaked heroic strats to astralis. Sure heroic will sign him to share more leaks. Idk where so stupid people come from
2022-12-05 14:15
#140
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Germany at0myq
ban ESIC now pls, thx
2022-12-02 10:30
W
2022-12-02 10:31
Wow
2022-12-02 10:34
#147
hades | 
United States Perc
Wow
2022-12-02 10:36
Bow wow wow yippie yo yippie yay!!!
2022-12-02 10:37
hope nobody hires this cunt. (prob shittralis will though)
2022-12-02 10:39
GOD HUNDEN
2022-12-02 10:45
#154
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Czech Republic PaYaB
unexpected
2022-12-02 10:48
Krystal as a coach is miles clear of this danish fraud
2022-12-02 10:54
Surely noone will ever give this scumbag the time of day again?! For the sake of integrity, please just dont, otherwise the conversation will always be dominated by this. Let him piss off somewhere else away from CSGO
2022-12-02 10:54
Ah yes, "in light of a constructive engagement"
2022-12-02 10:55
What happened to the NA matchfixing scandal????
2022-12-02 11:00
2 replies
Dont they work with FBI? Both probably dont car
2022-12-02 11:32
1 reply
seems like it!!
2022-12-02 23:34
north korean transparency from ESIC
2022-12-02 11:00
"in light of a constructive engagement" so hunden paid esic to free him
2022-12-02 11:03
2 replies
Nah Hundens lawyers probably found a way to scorch esic if they had tried to uphold his ban .
2022-12-02 11:22
1 reply
Hunden lawyers actually did nothing according to article. ESIC usually give provisional ban then lift it quickly if info is shared
2022-12-02 11:30
As usual, money and power gets the job done
2022-12-02 11:03
#168
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South Africa Ston3Cold
Bring on Hunden cam!
2022-12-02 11:17
HUNDEN DID NOTHING WRONG
2022-12-02 11:25
I heckin love HUNDEN
2022-12-02 11:31
of course lol
2022-12-02 11:34
goat coach !
2022-12-02 11:48
I just hope that ESIC will start doing comedy tours, I'll be the first to go to this, they're such a joke.
2022-12-02 11:52
I think those lawyers might get some DMs from the other banned coaches hahaha
2022-12-02 12:15
#187
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Brazil bandindin
guerri?
2022-12-02 12:16
GOD IS BACK
2022-12-02 12:20
Once a cheater, Always a cheater!
2022-12-02 12:26
Where is the transparency? Cmon esic
2022-12-02 12:33
W for Astralis and some justice considering cadiaN, teses and stavn got away with any punishment
2022-12-02 12:38
what a fucking joke
2022-12-02 12:38
W
2022-12-02 12:49
Wb hunden!
2022-12-02 12:49
Is there any player who actually served his full punishment? ESIC is a cirkus full of clowns.
2022-12-02 12:54
HUNDEN is back!!!!
2022-12-02 12:57
Just waiting for the next crime he is going to commit.. Guy can't do anything legal for 3/4 months..
2022-12-02 13:01
f*ck esic really, i get guerri and apokas unban because their had proof on their behalf, but hunden? looool ESIC youre a joke
2022-12-02 13:01
5 replies
Have you even read the whole article?
2022-12-02 13:39
4 replies
have you tho? HUNDEN was banned for sharing confidential material from Heroic's strategy folders + coach bug. he didnt prove he didnt do it like guerri and apoka, what is your point man?
2022-12-02 14:18
3 replies
Oh I have, which is why I don't think ESIC's to blame. His lawyers just won, thus ESIC actually HAD to lift the ban.
2022-12-02 18:24
2 replies
EU law kekw
2022-12-02 23:18
so wheres the transparency man? esic is a joke. "Matters have now been concluded on the basis of the agreed joint statement" even worst if they reached an agreement.
2022-12-02 23:44
But why
2022-12-02 13:06
What about Guerri and Apoka?
2022-12-02 13:29
Make Astralis great again! #ToTheStars... sic
2022-12-02 13:36
ESIC is literally the biggest clown party in esports. Why do they even get news here, just ignore them till their slow unseen death.
2022-12-02 13:47
what a joke
2022-12-02 13:56
- "in light of a constructive engagement" also -thanking his lawyers my man sued his way out there thats a W ESIC regulations full of holes it seems
2022-12-02 14:05
1 reply
yup, they are toothless
2022-12-02 14:46
Goat is back
2022-12-02 14:18
Astralis or Heroic?
2022-12-02 14:21
pogchamp
2022-12-02 14:24
Astralis Hunden
2022-12-02 14:30
aimbot
2022-12-02 14:31
#244
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Poland Kobel_
L, cheater is back
2022-12-02 14:41
#248
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Finland Emvi
Easy for The Dog
2022-12-02 14:46
Wow so he really joins Astralis after all?
2022-12-02 14:49
#251
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Germany aL1337
GOAT
2022-12-02 14:52
#252
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Turkey Joper
Cheater is back!
2022-12-02 14:55
#254
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China RADNIKEY
ASTRALIS KKKKKKKKKKK
2022-12-02 15:02
HUNDEN cam is back
2022-12-02 15:25
-xizt +hunden, make heroic likeable KEKW
2022-12-02 15:40
Howard Hamlin and 33 Chicanery Lane
2022-12-02 15:50
2 replies
lmao
2022-12-03 03:59
1 reply
He got a good lawyer, must be better call saul fan
2022-12-03 16:41
lmao here we go!
2022-12-02 15:50
uhh i have too many things i can think of or say so i will just say, why him
2022-12-02 15:56
GOD HUNDEN
2022-12-02 15:59
#265
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Poland mimsonqq
a lot fixed matches and esic still sleeping
2022-12-02 16:06
1 reply
They should hire you
2022-12-02 16:39
THATS A JOKE RIGHT?????
2022-12-02 16:17
the return of the Hunden cam PogChamp
2022-12-02 16:29
ESIC didn't disband after getting pissed on by valve? They should.
2022-12-02 17:21
hunden cam is back W
2022-12-02 17:32
Hunden once gave me 80€ because he threw the easiest round against WASD. Thanks GOAT Hunden
2022-12-02 18:06
HUNDEN CAM IS BACK BBY!
2022-12-02 18:09
#288
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Finland AliSabid
oh boy
2022-12-02 18:11
#289
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Portugal dracø
When will this shitshow end? ESIC trying to be relevant banning and unbanning people every 3 months or so
2022-12-02 18:11
Established cheater. Ok. Also tried to exfil company data to competitors. Ok. Why would anyone want to touch him or even respect him? Seriously. He showed his true character. He's not a guy I'd hang out with let alone want to do business with.
2022-12-02 18:22
1 reply
yes, but Astralis is Astralis lmao
2022-12-03 00:14
LMAO ESIC clowns
2022-12-02 18:59
LETS GOOOOOOOO
2022-12-02 19:30
#297
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Brazil dio_scuro
ESIC = CLOWNS
2022-12-02 19:36
EZ for GOAT HUNDEN
2022-12-02 19:48
#300
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Finland dvlx
god hunden bacc
2022-12-02 20:01
astralis
2022-12-02 20:13
#303
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Finland areufu
F disgusting
2022-12-02 20:21
esic is a joke, that's two big bans revoked now.
2022-12-02 21:13
GOOD Hunden GOD No point in banning him and not all the players/org from the scene. Finally justice is served!
2022-12-02 23:24
ESIC OMEGALUL
2022-12-03 00:02
esic are a joke lol, what a clown show
2022-12-03 00:30
nice job esic, fifa vibes
2022-12-03 00:34
There you go, high profile people in eSports get different treatment, you will never see a tier 1 player get banned from ESIC. ESIC shows what they're about with this move, corrupt. Keep banning tier 5 teams and players ESIC that will show them.
2022-12-03 03:29
#321
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Uganda Tby17Q
Bugden
2022-12-03 03:29
THE GOAT IS BACK Fr tho what a joke ESIC is ahahahah
2022-12-03 04:25
lmao
2022-12-03 04:26
the king is back POG
2022-12-03 06:57
His come back will make Danish CS scene go live again that's what it's all about here, he should be banned for good nobody should tolerate cheats it's a matter of principle, but who gives a flying fck about principle anymore? it's all about money and shit, it's business and it's killing the game and the vibez tbh nothing special, Hunden will never be trusted again or credible nobody should give him credit or respect for what he did, I lost respect for Heroic as well as a team never cheer for them because they knew what was going on, but preferred not to talk about it and expose it which makes them a L team and that's a big L for Danish CS as a whole tbh as long as these subhumans still exist and make come backs, I know that they even have fankids and they even call them GOATS which is even worse.
2022-12-03 11:55
2 replies
Devve is the only goat
2022-12-05 14:09
1 reply
Only few danes are true and legit players tbh at some point.
2022-12-05 14:58
#331
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Brazil InViktor
how embarrassing! unethical technician! Who is the next organization to have their tactics leaked?!
2022-12-03 12:39
#333
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Poland Yomenik
finally cheater is back! good job ESIC ...
2022-12-03 13:17
#335
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Germany who|cars
lmao almost zero chance w332nderfull get banned then wp esic good job
2022-12-03 14:19
joke
2022-12-03 18:29
ESIC disband asap
2022-12-03 19:32
"I’m grateful for my legal team at Howard Kennedy LLP and 33 Chancery Lane for guiding..." Homie is doxxing his lawyers lamo.
2022-12-03 19:41
I'm now a heroic fan. Let's go heroic, win everytime you face astralis. Beat this clown org.
2022-12-04 01:14
W
2022-12-04 12:49
Bunch of fucking clowns.
2022-12-07 20:17
xD
2022-12-07 22:49
lol
2022-12-08 13:42
the dog is BACK!
2022-12-11 22:18
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