TeSeS on Astralis rivalry: "We don't have the best connection to each other, both organization and player-wise"

Heroic once again got the better of Astralis in the Danish derby.

Heroic came into 2023 as the number-one ranked team in the world, and the Rio Major finalists were expected to continue that form. Their start to the new season was derailed, however, by a resurgent Evil Geniuses who defeated the Danes in a closely-contested opening series.

TeSeS says games against Astralis are something special

René "⁠TeSeS⁠" Madsen and company bounced back against arch-rivals Astralis in the next round of play, coming back in the series after losing the first map to extend their win-streak against them even further.

HLTV talked with TeSeS after their derby win about their slow start in the opening game, as well as the importance of the Danish rivalry.

So before I touch on your win today, I want to ask you about the previous game against EG. What do you think went wrong that day?

A lot of things went wrong. Of course, we lost the game and there are always many rounds to look at where things went wrong. I think most of it was rustiness, not having played officials in a long time. And of course, that goes for EG as well, and for every team here. Maybe we just need a little more time than others, because today we saw how good we are and how well we can play together. I think if we played like this in the EG game, we would win. But EG was a better team that day and they managed to win against us.

What did you do in preparation for today's game after that loss?

Well, we did what we always do. We start with watching the demos and making a game plan and all these things. Don't want to spoil too much of our secrets, but yeah, we always do the same against every opponent, whoever we meet. We don't underestimate anyone and we don't overestimate. So yeah, we take it game by game and it doesn't matter who we meet.

I also have to ask you about the map veto, you decided to remove Ancient and left in Inferno. Can you talk me through your decision?

Yeah, well, not going to say anything, but we have a lot of opportunities and some tricks up our sleeves that we're going to be able to use and today we used one of them.

So the first map of the series was Inferno. How did the map go from your perspective?

I think we are really confident in our Inferno, even though our statistics are extremely bad. I think just about every team in the world right now is good on the Inferno, everyone knows how to play it and some playstyles just don't fit against us. So, yeah, we made a lot of mistakes on Inferno, but they were playing really well on that map and we weren't hitting that team play we wanted and our trades weren't on point.

You turned the series around by dominating the next two maps. What helped you come back into the game?

I think we have shown a lot of times that it doesn't matter if we lose the first map or second map, we can always bounce back on the next one because we're really good at resetting. And on Mirage we just started out well and we kept going and kept building that momentum and I think our T side was extremely good.

We managed to play some true Heroic CS as we call it, with the back-and-forth, winning clutches and making the opponents scared. So we played extremely well on that map and we brought it into Vertigo as well and managed to close out the series pretty confidently.

You extended your win streak against Astralis to five in a row. That must feel good, right?

Yeah, it's always something special to play against Astralis and it feels amazing every time we win against them. It's a strong rivalry and we don't have the best connection to each other, both organization and player-wise. There is nothing to hide or anything, that's just how it is and it builds more energy and more hype in our games and I enjoy it every time. They are a good team, they're playing well and most of the time we have close games and it's fun to play. It just adds a little more adrenaline to the game.

A rematch with EG now awaits you. Do you feel ready to take them down this time?

Yeah, I said to other guys today that today I was feeling much better about the game and I was able to enjoy it much more than I did in the EG game. I was way more relaxed today and I think that I will build on this momentum and feeling that I have today in future games.

For me, it was like playing last year when I was able to enjoy playing and enjoy the moment as we always want to do here in Heroic. And to bring that into every game is just so important for us, but also especially for me because it just hypes everyone up and helps to enhance your focus much more. So we will definitely bring that to the EG game.

Denmark René 'TeSeS' Madsen
René 'TeSeS' Madsen
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W
2023-01-22 00:03
#2
deko | 
Pakistan 7ssk7
wow the bad blood just got badder lmao
2023-01-22 00:03
#3
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Aruba defoliant
sure
2023-01-22 00:03
Used to happen with fnatic and NiP players back in the days but now they are all "friends"
2023-01-22 00:05
1 reply
this is beyond players the ast org is disrespecting them after ironically when hynden got banned
2023-01-22 00:17
#5
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Azerbaijan hacizeynal
WTF, I am sorry but you will never reach Astralis level from both player and team wise
2023-01-22 00:05
17 replies
Heroic has been better then Astralis for a long time.
2023-01-22 00:11
15 replies
astralis 4 majors, 3 b2b and top 1 for 121 weeks (2.3 years) cheatroic 0, 0, and top 1 for 11 weeks (0.21 years) ik you're probably talking about rn but all time no team will ever achieve what astralis did
2023-01-22 00:26
13 replies
I understand I really do but it's been basically since the end of 2020 that Heroic has been on the ascent and Astralis has been going downhill.
2023-01-22 00:26
4 replies
its important to point out that most of heroics dominance was in the online era
2023-01-22 11:56
3 replies
And they are still a good team til this day
2023-01-22 15:24
2 replies
I agree but its just something you have to consider when evaluating a teams achievements
2023-01-22 15:49
1 reply
I still don't think that changes anything. CS is primarily an online game, and, while I do agree that LANs are 1 step above, Heroic's achievements shouldn't be undermined simply because they were during the online era, as they have clearly been able to at least somewhat convert it (y'know, winning an event and all) Yes, all time Astralis is probably better, but Heroic is currently a far better team in my eyes.
2023-01-22 16:10
+1
2023-01-22 10:28
Past is irrelevant, it's now that matters
2023-01-22 11:38
so with your logic brasil in football will be always the best team in the world even if they dont win any thing for 10years?
2023-01-22 13:07
4 replies
Ofc
2023-01-22 17:05
well they haven’t won the world cup in ages and are still considered favourites every time
2023-01-23 08:24
2 replies
astralis is more shadows of themselves now, not even contenders
2023-01-23 13:19
Astralis doesnt even qualifiy for the majors anymore nowadays. Thats like brazil missing the world cup lmao
2023-01-23 13:36
+1.000.000.00
2023-01-23 07:47
#111
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Turkey dogaata
+1000
2023-01-22 20:14
bruh just beat the record of the best run of a team of all time maaan
2023-01-22 10:01
#6
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England pumk1n1
we need status update hltv, have any members of astralis got into a fight thus far tonight?
2023-01-22 00:06
1 reply
#18
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Brazil Vicmar
device probably punched some monitors if that count
2023-01-22 00:22
The rivalry of two of the most unsympathetic orgs. One with a cheating scandal & Cadian and the other one buying the cheater. I’m sad for Sjuush I like this guy he’s underrated as fuck.
2023-01-22 00:07
44 replies
Save sjuuush? He’s literally in the best team in the World lmao
2023-01-22 00:17
39 replies
The best team in the world lmao
2023-01-22 00:18
13 replies
Whos better
2023-01-22 00:49
12 replies
EG
2023-01-22 00:51
2 replies
kindergarden logic as usual for a g2 fan
2023-01-22 00:53
1 reply
That was a joke. Read #29
2023-01-22 08:46
They just lost to EG bruh
2023-01-22 12:17
6 replies
answer the question
2023-01-22 12:34
5 replies
G2, Faze, Navi, and maybe Liquid
2023-01-22 18:20
4 replies
3 replies
lmfao is the ranking your only defense? It's wrong bruh. Get over it. Vitality wasn't the best team in the world when they were number one were they?
2023-01-22 20:55
2 replies
They have the best results out of any team on the last 5 events
2023-01-22 21:15
1 reply
Also Vitality is better than Heroic
2023-01-25 23:36
#103
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Finland KarPPa
Faze is better and it's not close
2023-01-22 16:47
1 reply
#21
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Serbia Ljannister
Sjuush is not playing for Virtus bro
2023-01-22 00:24
11 replies
I know bro, he’s playing for the best team in the world
2023-01-22 00:26
10 replies
#27
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Serbia Ljannister
He is not. Best team in the world is consisted of: Jame Fame Flit Kairon Qikert Where do you see Sjuush lol?
2023-01-22 00:27
9 replies
nice b8 m8 i r8 8/8
2023-01-22 01:56
What you're saying is Outsiders bro
2023-01-22 03:40
Outsiders Will never win a tier 1 tournament again sry budfy
2023-01-22 10:52
6 replies
#66
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Serbia Ljannister
Cope + still 1 more then Heroic
2023-01-22 11:23
5 replies
Cope with what? Outsiders fell off immediately after the major xD Worst major winner in history. Even less relevant than 2013 major winning fnatic with devilwalk and Schneider LUL. No coping needed when outsiders Will fail to do anything relevant in 2023. Fl1t and kairon will go to better teams soon so thats gonna be nice
2023-01-22 11:55
4 replies
#73
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Serbia Ljannister
And how come your Heroic lost to worst major winners? I mean you are overestimating Comedian a lot. Can't wait VP to spank Heroic again in EPL
2023-01-22 12:15
3 replies
They reached playoffs in every attended tournament last year, apart from the 1st month after signing jabbi + worlds final with their stand-in. Semis and final in both majors and bounced back by winning elite tournament but Yee im overestimating them. Comparing the two teams in 2022 as a whole the flukesiders win is so obvious lol
2023-01-22 14:13
2 replies
#89
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Serbia Ljannister
Reached but won nothing. Like Choke2 under nexa. Overestimated hyped trash
2023-01-22 14:27
1 reply
User created in 2021 hahahaha now i understand why u seem so clueless
2023-01-22 15:39
Best team that lost to eg. okay im a g2 i should not say things like that, g2 do that all the time. But that’s not my point, I just don’t like the Org and how cadian and crew reacted to Hundens cheat. Sjuush wasn’t part back than. Anyways he’s seems to be a good guy, the only one I really like of heroic. For sure Hetoic is good right now. I just wish he would have a different team.
2023-01-22 00:35
12 replies
Yeah scummy team due to their coach cheating. At least they were the only ones with a cheating coach, right?
2023-01-22 10:09
10 replies
Zonic, Blade, and XTQZZZ didn't cheat
2023-01-22 12:18
2 replies
Malek was g2 coach also not
2023-01-22 13:24
1 reply
Another great coach
2023-01-22 18:19
The players definitely knew about the cheat. They were silent and after a long time „oh we did not knew anything, we just played rounds after he gave us info…“ and yea Zoner and other who used it alot, are scum aswell.
2023-01-22 13:27
6 replies
Sounds great but where is the evidence that hunden gave direct info on the whereabouts of the opposing team? I love Reading confident comments like this because Hltv retards got so used to speculation that they now talk about it as if it’s proved by concrete evidence lmao.
2023-01-22 13:57
5 replies
If they didn’t knew, why they did not say anything after it got to the outside. Why did they played the rounds like they knew about the positions of. And just after Hunden said they knew, 2 of them said „nonono we did not knew“ and also niko didn’t said anything, he just stayed silent over the accusations from Hunden. But yes in the end only the players knew, but for me they shitted ob them self with making these type of bad video and being silent at start.
2023-01-22 14:45
4 replies
The coaches could talk during the game so obviously he can suggest different setups, rotations etc. He had 10+ years experience of being a good/smart igl so obviously the players thought of him as a brilliant tactician. You’re so clueless if you Think The players automatically assume that he’s cheating when helping Them mid round call lmao
2023-01-22 15:13
3 replies
I don’t think they assume that if that would only be it, I’m in your side he’s a great Igl, so his calls could be just good. I actually think they knew. Cause I don’t see a reason for Hunden to lie about that, what reason does he has to lie, he don’t look better if his players knew about his cheat. But he said they knew it and the statement Video of heroic was t great, that’s why I believe Hunden more than cadian. In the end I lost respect of all players and coaches involved in that.
2023-01-22 15:54
2 replies
You cant come up with any reason as to why he would keep it private? Bruh lol
2023-01-22 17:35
+1
2023-01-22 10:10
I wouldn't say heroic is unsympathetic as an org. Yea Hunden cheated but that had nothing to do with the org if I remember correctly. They kicked him immediately.
2023-01-22 05:49
3 replies
Yeah okay, the Org behind them isn’t the problem. I meant more the players especially cadian, tesses how these reacted to the cheat first they were quite and after a long time: „Oh no we knew nothing, Hunden is the bad guy“ this was just awfull, and I don’t believe them. They played the rounds of Hundens info, rotated away etc. sure they don’t know anything…
2023-01-22 13:23
2 replies
They could've very well just trusted their coach a lot. You build relationships with people you work with, especially if they're in the role of leading you to success. Admittedly, I don't know much about the whole situation, but I feel like it might be a bit behind us at this point.
2023-01-22 16:13
1 reply
+1
2023-01-23 16:07
TeSeS vs blameF next ufc, book it!
2023-01-22 00:11
1 reply
#20
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Scotland Ludax
too ez for teses
2023-01-22 00:23
#10
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Poland Recruitn1
cant believe im saying it i used to be pro-astralis back in the days but now Heroic W
2023-01-22 00:14
#11
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Georgia Nickk8k_
F*CK you Trashoic for throwing first map and my 300€ :)
2023-01-22 00:16
7 replies
why leaking it D:
2023-01-22 00:22
1 reply
#19
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Georgia Nickk8k_
After Cadian vs Device 1v1 was obvious
2023-01-22 00:23
Why you bet on first matches after player brake??
2023-01-22 00:22
3 replies
#22
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Georgia Nickk8k_
They could easily do 2:0 if not throw on first map :) but they throwed, so I don't care about this dog team anymore.
2023-01-22 00:25
2 replies
Yup they will throw and risk their hole career
2023-01-22 02:08
Deserved I hope u lose even more loserr.
2023-01-22 11:04
if u bet you might win 200% but if u lose u'll only lose 100%. do the math. keep betting. :b
2023-01-23 01:48
trash vs scum or scum vs trash, not really much difference
2023-01-22 00:19
3 replies
#25
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Georgia Nickk8k_
+1
2023-01-22 00:26
+1 Both orgs are fucking trash
2023-01-22 03:38
+1 Bad News Eagles goat org
2023-01-22 16:22
EG gonna get rekt
2023-01-22 00:32
#33
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United States DBVS
+hunden
2023-01-22 01:03
most one-sided rivalry of all time
2023-01-22 01:05
9 replies
That goes to Astralis-Liquid
2023-01-22 02:40
7 replies
No it's not. 2018 was of Astralis and Liquid dominated in 2019.
2023-01-22 03:38
5 replies
9-3 h2h between astralis and liquid in 2019 sure bud
2023-01-22 05:28
#59
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United States Virgin Islands Mykolkaa
Astralis werent playing when liquid dominated in 2019 xD
2023-01-22 10:22
3 replies
Yeah Scared of Liquid after this match xD hltv.org/matches/2330350/liquid-vs-astra..
2023-01-22 10:38
2 replies
Ah yes Ibuypower event, so important
2023-01-22 10:49
1 reply
#46
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Vietnam _Liam_
-1
2023-01-22 05:05
Some of the maps are often close af but yeah, Heroic always wins ;)
2023-01-22 06:56
#35
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Spain nTapps
Down with astrahunden. Up with heroic
2023-01-22 01:24
they have in common to use a coach who is willing to cheat so both despicable
2023-01-22 01:52
4 replies
+1000 and i wanted to root for the glaive device comeback.. sigh
2023-01-22 06:12
1 reply
There will be no such thing as a gla1ve comeback
2023-01-22 13:58
oh you mean like C9, faze, navi, furia, oG and ENCE?
2023-01-22 11:48
+1 Both are coping if they think they arent the worst in cs.
2023-01-22 16:31
ez for tes EZ!
2023-01-22 03:46
Good to see the best danish team win again!
2023-01-22 04:29
1 reply
#50
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India psn46
Cope
2023-01-22 06:15
both scumbag orgs
2023-01-22 06:25
like i said 2023 is heroic rising . astralis is past
2023-01-22 07:49
#54
swag | 
Cyprus Porgos
Astralis will never be great unless they realise they should start getting young talent and leave the old veterans in the past, only device and blameF should stay since buzz isn't good enough and they should rebuild
2023-01-22 08:00
4 replies
What young danish IGL can they get tho?
2023-01-22 10:34
3 replies
The homie goatfromsky
2023-01-22 11:32
1 reply
yes, very young
2023-01-22 11:51
Blamef is better than glaive at least they would be able to qual to legends stage with him
2023-01-22 16:48
Good to see they hate each other
2023-01-22 12:26
BASED, fuck astralis. SCUM org
2023-01-22 13:06
Ironic that the 2 most hated teams in CS hate each other
2023-01-22 13:57
4 replies
#88
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Finland Khroni
There is a reason for that youtu.be/p81meTtJ1Es?t=536
2023-01-22 14:19
3 replies
Damn. I expected to listen for 5 minutes and heard the whole thing. Realy insightful on how shitty the whole situation is
2023-01-22 15:21
+1
2023-01-22 15:28
Good video.
2023-01-22 18:15
Screw the Norwegian org (which they factually are.)
2023-01-22 14:51
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