nafany: "We don't have any excuses right now"

The Cloud9 captain spoke to James "⁠BanKs⁠" Banks on broadcast after Cloud9's harrowing elimination at the hands of IHC.

Cloud9 have been sent packing from the first Big Event of the year, IEM Katowice, which they entered with a new lineup. The team had held off making a roster change for over two years, the longest holdout among top teams, but felt they needed to refresh their approach after exiting the IEM Rio Major in the quarter-finals despite a favorable bracket draw.

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Armed with Timur "⁠buster⁠" Tulepov in place of Timofey "⁠interz⁠" Yakushin, the team got off to a strong enough start in the Play-In stage upon their arrival in Poland, defeating IHC 16-5 on Mirage and taking down ENCE 2-1 to qualify for the group stage. However, their tournament run came to a grinding halt from that point, a best-of-three loss to Natus Vincere giving way to a shocking defeat at the hands of IHC in the lower bracket.

Cloud9 have been sent home from IEM Katowice in 13-16th place

The Mongolian team edged out wins on Inferno and Mirage to net a 2-0 victory and send the Russian side packing from the tournament, an absolutely disastrous result for a team that contains two of the world's top five players in the world, and one that is ranked 24 spots higher than their competitor.

After the match, Cloud9 in-game leader Vladislav "⁠nafany⁠" Gorshkov briefly spoke to BanKs in an interview on broadcast, giving his initial thoughts on the loss. "We don't have any excuses right now," the 21-year-old stated. "If we will watch it, our preparation and our communication, it wasn't perfect at all. For now it's not a 'buster' problem, it's just... shit happens. Sometimes you have to make some steps back to make more steps forward, and that's it."

When asked whether he felt Mirage got stressful, a question based on the way Cloud9 were playing towards the latter portions of the map with more aggression than they usually exhibit, nafany was quick to express his denial. " I don't think so, it wasn't stressful at all," the Russian captain said. "As far as I can see, again, the worst thing in our game was our communication."

"If we will look back to old times when HObbit just came in, we also weren't ready to play any tournaments let's say, "nafany continued, in response to a question about the team still needing time to adjust after making a player change. "The first tournaments were awful, as this one I mean, so I'm pretty sure that we just need some time to speak about how we want to play in the future, and that's it."

Kazakhstan Timur 'buster' Tulepov
Timur 'buster' Tulepov
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
1258
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.62
Russia Vladislav 'nafany' Gorshkov
Vladislav 'nafany' Gorshkov
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.96
Maps played:
932
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.69
United Kingdom James 'BanKs' Banks
James 'BanKs' Banks
Age:
32
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.00
Maps played:
0
KPR:
0.00
DPR:
0.00
Russia Timofey 'interz' Yakushin
Timofey 'interz' Yakushin
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.94
Maps played:
906
KPR:
0.57
DPR:
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torzsi farms these guys casually, like just retire bro it’s over bro it’s not 2021 you cant play Kato from your bedroom
2023-02-05 23:45
9 replies
Torzsi the 1.01 rating prodigy
2023-02-06 00:02
4 replies
respect torzsi man, he's sitting at a solid 1.00 rn
2023-02-06 01:35
3 replies
torzi became degster's son on mirage
2023-02-06 07:27
2 replies
Torzsi 1.00 solid
2023-02-06 09:41
he's any remotely good awpers son
2023-02-06 17:51
even torzsi*
2023-02-06 00:03
based
2023-02-06 01:03
“ it’s over bro it’s not 2021 you cant play Kato from your bedroom” Lmao I almost spilled tea on my keyboard xD
2023-02-06 10:45
1 reply
#107
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Russia mE55ER
+1
2023-02-07 08:05
#2
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Brazil flytw4tp
leave C9 ax1le n sh1ro deserves better
2023-02-05 23:44
7 replies
I wonder if you said the same about hooxi
2023-02-06 10:36
6 replies
#92
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Brazil flytw4tp
why would i? he's doing a hell of a job
2023-02-06 12:22
5 replies
Right but he didn't for quite a while when he started
2023-02-06 12:35
4 replies
Nafany has had since late 2020 with this team and on Lan only delivered 1 win.
2023-02-08 12:29
3 replies
They've been pretty consistent though. I'm cool with it
2023-02-08 12:40
2 replies
Going out in groups is ok?
2023-02-08 17:38
1 reply
Yeah, loads of teams do it. About half. Sometimes teams go out 0-3 at the major when they shouldn't. Or sometimes they lose in the lower bracket. At the end of the day, not all the teams can make it through and that's why it's interesting to watch. C9 dont go out early in every competition. They normally go deep even when they look bad. So yes, I'm cool with it.
2023-02-08 17:45
#3
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Finland Cucumber))
Yep.
2023-02-05 23:44
4 replies
Cloud9's stratbook even has no more excuses left
2023-02-05 23:55
3 replies
nafany stuck in 2021 unfortunately
2023-02-06 00:46
#42
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Europe kuu1
It's weird because there is a pretty good and obvious excuse in the fact that they had more kills than their opponents (199-190) but they should have been more careful how those kills were distributed between rounds. And everyone would have understood.
2023-02-06 01:03
1 reply
That would be insult to Ax1le and sh1ro and he would be kicked by them
2023-02-06 01:05
RIP
2023-02-05 23:44
to be honest, im only sad for buster and interz
2023-02-05 23:45
#7
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Afghanistan GoatofGoats
What did you Last Round NAFANY Wtf
2023-02-05 23:46
-buster +boomi4 igl and nafany different roles without calling
2023-02-05 23:46
11 replies
Boombl4 without blade is nobody tho
2023-02-05 23:49
6 replies
But he has the „fuck everybody“ mentality that c9 desperately needs. +++ it’s not like the couldn’t swap groove as well lol
2023-02-05 23:52
1 reply
That's fair, their problem is in their heads
2023-02-05 23:53
#36
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Serbia Ljannister
How do you know it? and who is Nafany at all? Hobbir also suck + buster is useless. Either bring strong riflers or let Axile and Shiro somewhere, not to rot here with 3 bots
2023-02-06 00:34
3 replies
-1 hobbit is fine he had one bad game vs Navi
2023-02-06 02:38
1 reply
#91
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Serbia Ljannister
How is he fine? Inconsistent to say not to insult him. Only shiro and axile are playing good in C9.
2023-02-06 12:07
#79
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Russia pewchan
+1 this old dude out of his top performance after making top 6 at 2021. Just look at the stats - he stuck at 1,05 at 2022. Think about it.
2023-02-06 10:33
You're saying Nafany should stay on the team as a rifler if he's not going to IGL?
2023-02-05 23:58
3 replies
No way there are WAYYYYYYY better CiS riflers/talents
2023-02-06 00:30
2 replies
#37
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Serbia Ljannister
Literally any weeb from faceit is better
2023-02-06 00:35
1 reply
Yeah I almost wrote the same thing first.. Was gonna say " any level 5 is better " xD
2023-02-06 11:41
#10
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United States spaceZK
Dont come with any, you wont be the last team to fall to the brilliance of the Mongolian Masterclass
2023-02-05 23:49
2 replies
#50
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Estonia simondoggo
+1
2023-02-06 02:21
Faze is Next Then Liquid
2023-02-06 10:39
this team doesnt need support they need proper entry -buster/interz +patsi watch them win every event
2023-02-05 23:50
6 replies
#17
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France P0vTr
More like +GOATTARES
2023-02-05 23:53
3 replies
If all of c9 switch to Turkish than yes
2023-02-05 23:58
2 replies
No xantares will learn Russian. Trust me, he knew few German words after 1 year. He is a fast learner.
2023-02-06 01:07
1 reply
#87
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Germany tilted_up
8/8 comment :D
2023-02-06 11:36
#27
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Germany SxxyCake
please dont destroy spirit
2023-02-06 00:26
Yeah that would be insane. Or if they want a support go for Perfy lol ( la la World )
2023-02-06 00:30
#15
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Ukraine sargon32
It's not "shit happens" It's you Nafani who's dragging the team down
2023-02-05 23:53
1 reply
If we are going off what we can see it’s hobbit and buster that’s the problem, not nafany.
2023-02-06 18:56
Unfortunately, I have to admit that if for a longer while this roster doesn’t work, maybe it’s worth to pick up boomich as an igl and move nafany to another role But then, it’s hard to keep nafany as a rifler, when there is someone like mir available on cis market -interz is a mistake, especially with +buster Hopefully I’m just wrong with my early high expectations
2023-02-06 00:03
Biggest mistake was removing interz. Mark my words this roster will fall apart.
2023-02-06 00:23
5 replies
#26
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United States ka0nashi
Interz is top 5 support player in the world.
2023-02-06 00:26
4 replies
Yeah yeah top 5 support, that's why no top 30 team will pick him up just like Sanji, stop the bullshit calling trash players ‘support’
2023-02-06 03:24
3 replies
just like perfecto right?
2023-02-06 06:07
#72
BzOo | 
France JBzOo
Cause maybe they only got their support player and understand change could be coming from tac and not player switch …
2023-02-06 09:12
#106
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Australia Sify
5 iq comment
2023-02-07 02:37
Team is doomed with buster nafany hobbit and groove
2023-02-06 00:27
2 replies
hobbit is actually pretty important. He plays well and brings structure.
2023-02-06 01:50
+1
2023-02-06 05:04
Spirit-like rebuilt is required.
2023-02-06 00:28
3 replies
Definitely, obv keeping axile and Shiro, maybe hobbit too
2023-02-06 03:29
2 replies
yeah. shiro and axile are still what they are, they can definitely keep their spot. -interz though was clearly not the move
2023-02-06 03:58
Sh1ro and Ax1Le as core. Hobbit might stay as support but not as third star. Nafany and buster definitely out.
2023-02-06 05:16
nafraudy steals paychecks and wastes another event away. INTERZ DID NOTHING WRONG
2023-02-06 00:29
nafraudy get OUT
2023-02-06 00:29
what were your excuses before? playing LAN? 💀
2023-02-06 00:40
1 reply
Lack of experience
2023-02-06 04:55
this roster is a joke! they don't win anything relevant with 2 top 5 players kick nafany, this guy is a fraud (and also whoever that removed interz)
2023-02-06 00:46
1 reply
hltv top20 is a joke anyway idk why c9 is there.
2023-02-06 05:23
right now? so u had before?
2023-02-06 00:50
s1hro vs 9 s1hro plays with nafany buster monesy plays with niko hunter
2023-02-06 01:45
3 replies
Sh1ro plays with ax1le.
2023-02-08 12:31
2 replies
ax1le is not stable sometimes very good sometimes very bad
2023-02-08 14:25
1 reply
Much much harder to be consistent as a rifle than an Awper.
2023-02-08 17:39
sh1ro and ax1le have about 3 excuses i reckon, maybe 2.5
2023-02-06 02:07
3 replies
Spot on. 2 gods and 3 bots
2023-02-06 05:03
#88
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Germany tilted_up
They both have one excuse. They could literally write every game „sry, 2v8“ into chat.
2023-02-06 11:38
1 reply
yeah haha i meant 1 excuse each for nafany, buster, and maybe hobbit since he was not terrible i feel bad for sh1ro another tourney where he is being let down by his team
2023-02-06 18:21
Its obvious Nafany is the problem not Interz. They should add Boombl4.
2023-02-06 02:43
Nafany doesn’t have a lot of time, same excuses. C9 don’t pay them nice money for nothing
2023-02-06 06:00
25-43 stats vs unknown team, and yeaaaah, cloud9 trophy contenders? Yeah sure hahaha
2023-02-06 06:31
c9 must kick dumb nafany.
2023-02-06 06:56
-buster +sdy
2023-02-06 07:38
Interz was the problem Pepegalaugh
2023-02-06 07:44
#68
HooXi | 
Poland DRUGI
you have one of the best awpers, one of the best riflers and you can't win against asian team xd
2023-02-06 07:51
i told c9 needs boomi4 or s1ren or patsi for major buster nafany tier 3
2023-02-06 08:11
#70
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Hungary szia
You guys brought it upon yourselfs
2023-02-06 08:13
kick interz for this
2023-02-06 08:22
No Nafany, YOU don’t have any excuses. Stop holding this team back, this is NOT shiro fault, this is NOT axile fault, and this is NOT hobbit fault. You let interz be your fall guy… L man.
2023-02-06 09:16
1 reply
Actually it was hobbits fault he was dry peeking solo and dying on inferno right off the bat.
2023-02-06 18:59
how did that happen
2023-02-06 09:44
Wonder what Mauisnake is thinking right about now.
2023-02-06 10:10
1 reply
“Grrrrr” emote
2023-02-06 10:41
: buster. & hobbit who is garbage since he became daddy
2023-02-06 10:27
1 reply
Yep
2023-02-06 10:46
#85
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Estonia Kukkel
See what happens when you kick Supra.
2023-02-06 10:54
shouldnt have gone murican. should´ve stayed ruskisnuski
2023-02-06 11:24
C9 can beat IHC even with 3 players but they play 2 player sh1ro and Ax1Le
2023-02-06 11:46
#93
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Germany who|cars
nt nahuuJ lets come back stronger at 2024
2023-02-06 12:24
Where?
2023-02-06 14:23
how are people so dense. Interz had a .78 impact rating and wasnt good. Buster has been in the team for like two weeks. C9 calling isnt up to meta anymore, but Nafany would be an excellent IGL if he had the right calls. Groove needs some new ideas. Just how Blade is the mastermind behind Navi (theres no shot boom and electronic made these strats) thats what needs to be changed.
2023-02-06 16:22
6 replies
"Nafany would be an excellent IGL if he had the right calls" Water would be flammable if it was gasoline
2023-02-08 12:25
5 replies
Meaning hes a high impact, high fragging IGL. He showed he has what it takes in past years. You think Nafany is sitting there making up strats himself? Coach, analyst all there for a reason. Nafany is good. He needs some structural help. Plus, its only been like two weeks with Buster.. Look at G2.. took them 6 months.
2023-02-08 15:38
4 replies
nafany had almost 4 years with sh1ro and ax1le...
2023-02-08 15:41
3 replies
Aren't they both top 5 in the world rn?? Id say the team itself has good firepower but is lacking in strats. They're stuck in 2021. New playbook and theyre a top 5 team again. Again. Nafany himself is NOT creating the strats. Use my logic of Blade. He made Electronic IGL and they still work. Nafany was doing amazing until everyone found out their playstyle. Im failing to see how theyre doing SO bad in peoples eyes. They won a trophy not even a year ago.
2023-02-08 15:44
2 replies
If you look at tournament stats, sure, they don't seem THAT bad. Watching c9 lately though has been straight up cancer and they added to that by kicking their likable guy of a support for someone who had a 0.7 rating debut. That's why people are lashing out. For me though it's just the frustration from seeing the team I followed for years stagnate so badly
2023-02-08 16:43
1 reply
interz had a .73 impact in big events and .78 in all events. Being likable isnt really a CSGO stat. Debut is a key word here. Buster wasnt as bad as that...statistically speaking 1.08 vs .98. I personally didnt like him in VP either. Im sure theyll get it going though. They are good.
2023-02-08 16:51
#98
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France CMGloriam
there is surely excuse it is genshin impact
2023-02-06 16:56
2023-02-06 18:30
#105
ZywOo | 
Poland SebL
I don't know what's the thing with this team, but honestly, it feels like they always need more time for something, they needed time to gain experience on LAN, then they needed time to be ready to play in front of an audience, now they need time to adjust setups with buster in, like when will this team be ready? It's the longest standing 4-man core in Tier-1 CS yet it always somehow feels like they need time.
2023-02-06 22:06
They still have you in the team, nafany, so they do have an excuse ;)
2023-02-14 14:35
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