Valve confirm move to MR12 for Majors; introduce CS rating, release Inferno

A massive update to Counter-Strike 2 has introduced significant changes to the game.

Valve has released a new update to the Counter-Strike 2 Limited Test, and with it, has confirmed that they intend to pivot the Majors to a format that features a maximum of 12 rounds per half (MR12). This format will also apply in Premier and Competitive modes alongside a six-round overtime.

"Over the past decade, we’ve shipped updates to the economy and weapon balance to trim the fat and reduce the number of uncontested rounds in a match of CS," Valve explained of the change in their blog post.

"Because of these changes, exciting competitive matches can be resolved with fewer rounds. And shorter matches mean players can play more, and more often. [...] We expect the structure and flow of matches to evolve over time as the community adapts. And we’re excited to see where they go next."

Although it is unconfirmed whether the rest of the professional circuit will follow suit with the MR12 changes, in the past adjustments to Majors have also been applied by tournament organizers to their own events, so change is likely to follow.

The game developer also shipped a new rating system that will apply to Premier mode, ranking players on a seasonal leaderboard among their friends, in their individual regions, and worldwide.

Outside of Premier mode, the previous ranking system still remains but has been upgraded to give players a skill group that applies to each map individually — eliminating the concept of "Office Globals" or players who only grind a single, off-meta map to increase their ranks.

Inferno, the only map that had yet to be released to the Counter-Strike 2 Limited Test, has also been released. The map falls into the "Overhaul" category, which means that it has been "fully rebuilt from the ground up" and leverages "all of the Source 2 tools and rendering features."

The game developer also added that it was "starting the process of inviting as many eligible players as possible to the Limited Test," which they clarified as players who have CS:GO Prime status, an active official competitive matchmaking Skill Group, and play majority of their official matchmaking games in one of the regions where the Limited Test is available.

Take a peek at some of the screenshots of the new Inferno below, and glance at the update notes below that:

And the complete update notes can also be found below:

[ PREMIER ]
Added Premier mode
Added a visible CS Rating and CS2 Leaderboards. For more information visit the CS2 Leaderboard FAQ
Added CSTV for spectating Premier matches

[ SOUND ]
Fixed a case where grenade throw sounds would play twice
Added music preview button to music volume sliders
Various adjustments to sound effects

[ WORKSHOP TOOLS ]
Added Paint Kit enhancements to CS2 Item Editor. Paint Kit finishes can now support:
Enabling custom normal maps and AO for all styles
Optional pearlescent mask
Optional standard PBR roughness texture
Custom Paint-By-Numbers masks (enabling Paint-By-Number masks for Spray-Paint style)

[ MAPS ]
Added Inferno to all available game modes
Various bug fixes and tweaks for all shipped maps

[ MISC ]
Fixed a bug with hostage rescue prediction
Enabled first-person shadow for carried hostages
Fixed water effects showing in the wrong place when a bullet hit the water after penetration
Various fixes for weapon finishes
Replaced "Secondary Fire Hold" setting with "Zoom Button Hold"
Fixed "Disable all voice comms" button in scoreboard
"Temporarily Disable Incoming Chat" now mutes voice chat
Various CS:GO settings will be imported when launching the CS2 Limited Test
Fixed a case of inconsistent crouching with Duck Mode: Toggle enabled
Updated the invulnerability visual effect
Adjusted 'sv_infinite_ammo 2' grenade behavior to match CS:GO
Desert Eagle third-person muzzle flash smoke now dissipates faster
Continued iterating on smoke shape
Adjusted Competitive mode match length to 12-round halves

[ CS:GO ]
Recent ranked matches in "Your Matches" menu will now show Competitive, Wingman, and Premier matches

[ GAME AUTHENTICATION CODES ]
Access to match history granted to third-party websites will now cover Competitive, Wingman, and Premier matches
GetNextMatchSharingCode API used by third-party websites must now supply a match sharing code that is no more than 1 month old to obtain the next match sharing code.

sick
2023-09-01 04:11
48 replies
TOO SHORT!!!!
2023-09-01 04:40
46 replies
MR12 bad format
2023-09-01 04:44
6 replies
MR12 great format. I will start watching streams again because of it! LET'S GO!
2023-09-01 10:41
5 replies
#270
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United States DingusCS
maybe g2 will never worry about throwing 15 round lead
2023-09-01 13:39
4 replies
Add Faze and Liquid to that.
2023-09-01 16:59
No man, we cant say g2 15 Aware anymore
2023-09-01 17:03
POGGIES G2 AT 11 Aware
2023-09-01 18:44
1 reply
12* :)
2023-09-04 20:31
#43
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Brazil Anarchy_BR
MR12 sucks. Valve leaning towards making CS2 a casual game.
2023-09-01 05:09
22 replies
#52
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Denmark Not_Dane
+1, unfortunately imo
2023-09-01 05:32
If faceit keeps mr15 it will keep the playerbase
2023-09-01 07:02
8 replies
Face it, they won’t
2023-09-01 08:00
1 reply
Yea most likely they will switch to mr12 too. If there is no cheater problem in mm, faceit will die. We will see and for me it doesnt even matter what platform i use.
2023-09-01 15:31
we need the pros to ask valve to stop making cs a casual game
2023-09-01 08:17
since Valve made Majors mr12 every platform will switch to it as well
2023-09-01 10:52
“keep the player base” hahahaha they are playing the game be less dramatic
2023-09-01 11:27
1 reply
No clue what you are trying to say
2023-09-01 15:28
Who the fuck has the time to watch bo3 mr15
2023-09-01 22:05
1 reply
I do, can't be bothered to watch mr12 tho
2023-09-02 22:10
I don't get why they have to make the games shorter. Just don't play, if you don't have the time. CS really trying to get the kids back from Valorant
2023-09-01 08:35
8 replies
some pros think bo5s and sometimes even bo3s are too long with mr15
2023-09-01 09:12
2 replies
Pros will always complain
2023-09-01 20:41
1 reply
yeah, it's part of their job
2023-09-02 14:35
#176
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Denmark sNju
Fewer rounds, with fewer eco rounds sounds pretty good.
2023-09-01 10:48
4 replies
am i weird for liking eco rounds? :/
2023-09-01 15:48
3 replies
no, I think they’re interesting because of that chance that the ecoing team might win, I.e. Niko deagle ace/Niko deagle miss :)
2023-09-01 16:06
2 replies
exactly! It's a cool dynamic to see what teams can do when they are out of money and their back is against the wall... Also makes comebacks more interesting for sure
2023-09-01 18:02
1 reply
#342
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Denmark sNju
I think most people like eco rounds, but not if almost half the rounds are eco.
2023-09-01 18:18
#195
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United Kingdom absvny3t
+1 its really turned me off CS2
2023-09-01 11:33
lmao cs literally created mr12, was used competitively on cs and css
2023-09-01 12:35
1 reply
And it sucked that’s why we moved on to MR15
2023-09-01 18:07
cs was ~originally mr 12
2023-09-01 09:10
14 replies
#134
JDC | 
Czech Republic 3PO
yeah like 20 years ago and it sucked and thats why they went to MR15. There's literally been 0 complaints about game length in terms of max rounds, this was purely done from influence from Valorant to appeal to the casual gamer.
2023-09-01 09:16
12 replies
Not even then. Some players did prefer mr12 back then but most of us went with mr15. So yes, it did exist, but no, not all of the time, maybe not even half of the time.
2023-09-01 09:22
also MR12 sucked a lot because of the economy system back then, losing the GR meant to back to back almost full eco. so the GR was 1/4 of the map, and pushing to MR15 in 1.6 was the solution to have a better competive reliablility and fluke protection against a teams that would store almost half of the round needed to win (ie 13) by fluking the two GR. Does it makes sens today when round 2 is almost even in term of buy? idk .
2023-09-01 10:24
1 reply
Yup it will require economy changes as well to make mr12 work
2023-09-01 11:27
many pros are currently complaining, for 3 map games it makes a lot of sense to have mr12 imo, and in usual mm i think as well
2023-09-01 10:24
6 replies
Pros get so much money they can at least work for it
2023-09-01 11:13
5 replies
For real. Reminds me of pros complaining about waking up for matches
2023-09-01 14:20
its also more boring to watch these long ass games especially if you get overtime on all three maps and pros dont earn anywhere as much money as managers and bank ceos etc while they probably have to work more due to the extremely competetive environment
2023-09-02 04:05
3 replies
#384
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Canada Yaokon
Homie thinks beign a pro cs player is harder than being a manager or ceo🤣
2023-09-02 16:05
1 reply
in relation to what the top people earn managers for sure dont have to work enough and probably even aside from that
2023-09-03 02:58
I think only s1mple deserves more than 10k because he has a big marketing value for csgo
2023-09-03 00:46
there's been complaints about match length for years ginx.tv/en/cs-go/should-cs-go-matches-be.. whether MR12 is good or not depends on the economy
2023-09-01 11:18
1 reply
notice how its not a single active player but casters/analysts who do posts like that to gain crowd
2023-09-01 14:20
Yeah with roundtime 3 minutes and c4 for 45 seconds
2023-09-01 15:41
I guess they'll play BO5's and add more maps to the pool
2023-09-01 14:58
Sick indeed. Not in a positiv way
2023-09-01 11:12
WOW
2023-09-01 04:11
1 reply
cloud9 finally will be able to win
2023-09-01 14:02
#3
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Finland Siika
good. i like this. so same system than in cs1.6?
2023-09-01 04:12
29 replies
#46
s1mple | 
World doh
1.6 was MR16
2023-09-01 05:13
1.6 wasnt mr12
2023-09-01 05:24
24 replies
#67
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Russia venet
it was but when 1.6 get started and prreviously 1.5
2023-09-01 06:01
#68
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Finland Colikko
Yes it was from 2000 to 2003
2023-09-01 06:03
5 replies
3 years? hm maybe, dont rly remember that tho but huge majority of 1.6 was mr15
2023-09-01 06:03
Version 1.6 got released 2003
2023-09-01 07:41
2 replies
#107
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Finland Colikko
Yeah your right I messed up the years but in 1.6 the default used to be mr12
2023-09-01 08:10
1 reply
nope, in 1.3 and 1.5 it was but in 1.6 it was mr15 even mr16 for a short while.
2023-09-01 09:20
#118
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Czech Republic SirAster
1.6 released in 2003, hahaha You are trying to arguing about something that others still can remember, so u should at least do better fact checking....
2023-09-01 08:40
originally it was mr12, rounds were longer though and players like heaton would camp behind a box for 2 minutes
2023-09-01 06:39
Yes it was
2023-09-01 08:46
15 replies
#123
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Ukraine ksay
that wasn't 1.6 that was cs 1-1.5 and mr12 wasn't the only system
2023-09-01 08:49
No it wasn't...
2023-09-01 09:04
13 replies
Ok, I think I played enough 1.6 LANs and tournaments to remember
2023-09-01 09:56
12 replies
#161
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Russia goodjob
UK CS
2023-09-01 10:15
2 replies
Russia IRL army
2023-09-01 10:27
1 reply
#191
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Finland d0udy3160
+1
2023-09-01 11:27
Yea i can see that...
2023-09-01 10:26
It still wasn't 1.6, it was before then.
2023-09-01 12:31
7 replies
Nah, it was 1.6 definitely. I played at this event and it was 1.6 and MR12 liquipedia.net/counterstrike/2004_CPL_Wi..
2023-09-01 12:46
6 replies
well in the bracket there is mr15
2023-09-01 12:57
The final results of those games are BO1 MR15 games: team-aaa.com/fr/breve/cpl-uk-qualifier-p..
2023-09-01 13:06
2 replies
Lol, ok maybe just early rounds then, I apologise
2023-09-01 13:46
1 reply
2004 was a long time ago, it's an honest mistake. ^^
2023-09-01 15:12
Nice self-rekt...
2023-09-01 13:25
Lmao, maybe check your source before posting it
2023-09-02 01:59
Wtf?
2023-09-01 05:53
2 replies
#237
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Finland Siika
? whats ur problem? typical kid from russia who cant understand shit. haha lol
2023-09-01 12:36
1 reply
Bro I just wanted an explanation and why do you hate Russians you must be very miserable to live in the best country in the world and still find space to hate on others :(
2023-09-01 16:56
internet explorer ?
2023-09-01 04:12
Terrible idea. Winning pistol = winning the half now
2023-09-01 04:13
14 replies
oh yea, cuz they will definitely not change the economy. great insight.
2023-09-01 04:17
12 replies
They literally said they changed it due to previous economic changes..
2023-09-01 04:34
dont expect hltv user have high iq
2023-09-01 04:50
1 reply
Especially if they have an art flair
2023-09-02 04:55
+100
2023-09-01 05:37
Well it has been warned before when we got to know they wanted mr12, now it was released and economy is still the same, so... Basically force rounds are a big no rn
2023-09-01 06:56
1 reply
#177
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Denmark sNju
They are testing stuff... this is not the final release.
2023-09-01 10:50
remove that flag and flair youre making our country look stupid
2023-09-01 23:50
4 replies
sh1ro
2023-09-01 23:55
3 replies
Shiro > whatever "underground" shit DJ whose logo ur rocking
2023-09-02 04:59
bro said sh1ro with that flair XD
2023-09-02 19:53
1 reply
xddd
2023-09-02 20:12
Where has economy been mentioned by valve? Shut the fuck up, get back to your janitorial duties.
2023-09-02 04:58
zywoo top 1 forever then
2023-09-01 11:16
Seems like a massive W, but we are yet to see how mr12 affects the economy
2023-09-01 04:13
#7
Nifty | 
Bahamas Jam18
RIP short matches, i will miss you dearly ;-;
2023-09-01 04:15
#8
arT | 
Brazil NayxL
W
2023-09-01 04:15
WHERE'S THE ANTICHEAT? COME ON GABEN
2023-09-01 04:16
3 replies
lol. so stupid. maybe also release a pistol that although takes a second to shoot but it 1 shots???
2023-09-01 08:20
steam users have voted they do not want to have a more intrusive ac, so nobetter ac is comming :)
2023-09-01 12:23
Get better AC Valve ffs
2023-09-01 17:44
Im gonna wait a few weeks to see if Valve are to make changes to the economy for MR12. The pistol rounds need to be changed in particular. And also, if they finally tweak MR12 to be balanced and acceptable, can we PLEASE finally have BO5s in the grand finals of Majors???
2023-09-01 04:16
9 replies
+1 for major BO5s
2023-09-01 04:17
2 replies
+1
2023-09-01 05:30
1 reply
#399
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Germany Youju
+1
2023-09-05 11:59
mr12 it's garbage
2023-09-01 04:36
terribile idea! who wants to watch a boring af 6hrs 3-1 final
2023-09-01 13:55
2 replies
That's the point. With MR12, each map would be shorter, allowing more maps to be played in the finals, thus expanding depth. The 4 rounds less on each map of a Bo3 literally add up to exactly 1 full map, so a Bo5 that ends in 4 maps would be similar to a Bo3 that goes the distance. Slightly longer, but not on the scale you seem to be thinking.
2023-09-02 04:09
#421
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Italy Karimk03
3-1 final it's not even close to 6 hours unless there multiple overtime in in maps With mr12 the b05 will be more enjoyable
2023-09-25 11:37
WHY THE FUCK DO PEOPLE HAVE A HARD ON FOR BO5????? It's not enjoyable to play, not enjoyable to watch
2023-09-14 15:56
1 reply
because BO5 is interesting due to a factor of endurance. Some times are good on bo3s because they can keep the pace up and continue winning its also extremely reliant on mental game too and also cause if its 2 good teams, good cs to watch
2023-09-30 17:09
nice
2023-09-01 04:16
There are 2 things i hate about CS2. MR12 and weapon buy menu because only 5 guns per category, its so bullshit.
2023-09-01 04:23
13 replies
m8, literally the majority of people use the same guns. Basically almost everyone uses the MP9, the M4s (now people will use both since you can equip both now), UMP, AWP, Scout, AK, and Galil + all the pistols except CZ and R8 (and the occasional MAG-7 and XM). The ones that people dont use but are still there are just filler guns.
2023-09-01 04:27
11 replies
M8, let the players have all the guns available at any time, i dont understand why they just couldnt keep add them to buy menu? No space? Then make more space. Now i can never buy that M249 when i got 14K and huge lead. And the fact that LMGs, SMGs and shotguns are all in the same category is bullshit. And im not like most players, i got more kills on my R8 than my AK. I buy shotguns. I use SMGs on rifle rounds becausw why not. Valve needs to lower the price of all SMGs except P90, MAC and MP9. MP9 and MAC 10 supremacy is so stupid.
2023-09-01 04:54
10 replies
#56
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Australia Sify
+1 no troll guns with friends is bad
2023-09-01 05:37
+1 its like they want to keep the game boring i totally dont get it. it was so fun to see JW in 2015 with sawed-off.
2023-09-01 09:14
8 replies
#136
JDC | 
Czech Republic 3PO
there is still plenty of room for sawed off, you need one smg per side and maybe the auto shotty.
2023-09-01 09:17
1 reply
nah I want to choose between mp7 mp9 p90 mac 10 pp bizon xm1014 mag7 sawed off mid game but I cannot do it now. I totally have no idea why they did it. It literally kills diversity in this game
2023-09-01 13:26
#196
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United Kingdom absvny3t
They do want to keep the game boring. Valve are trying incredibly hard to appeal to Valorant zoomers who don't have the attention span to watch long games and choose from many weapons.
2023-09-01 11:35
5 replies
Bye bye intellect, and hello simplicity. It sucks for those of us that have a love and passion for the game. I never liked MR12 in Valo and in general didn't like Valo even though I played for a college team when I went back for another degree. It was nice to shit on younger kids in a game I had never played before at that level, but I haven't played it since I graduated over a year ago
2023-09-02 12:53
4 replies
cool blogpost
2023-09-14 15:59
3 replies
Aw mommy didn't pay attention to you today, so you want me to?
2023-09-14 22:43
2 replies
says the guy literally writing a long ass boring blogpost?
2023-09-25 11:32
1 reply
Another rough day huh? Hang in there little guy.
2023-09-25 13:23
Same
2023-09-01 09:01
imagine going back to MR12 when we switched to MR16 because it was way too short and the importance of winning the Pistol round was massive you can change the economy to counter the reliance on that which still leaves with the biggest issue MR12 IS FUCKING BORING But hey enjoy your garbage CS2.
2023-09-01 04:26
39 replies
valve is killing the game like always, always stupid changes, tired of it
2023-09-01 04:35
1 reply
its ok if we dont have pistol that 1 shots the body then we wont have mr12 as well. just need the pros to speak up
2023-09-01 08:23
So MR30 is not boring with consistent saves rounds? Yeah for sure. They need to twists the economy obviously
2023-09-01 04:45
22 replies
"save rounds" when was the last time you actually saw SAVE rounds ? Pistols are so strong in this Game 100% saving almost never happens anymore
2023-09-01 04:54
15 replies
Actually seen them way too much. M12 can only be judged with a working and new tweaked economy. They might change it back to M16 or they might keep it. Time will tell
2023-09-01 04:57
10 replies
History has shown that valve 99% percent of the time doesnt back down from their stupid decisions and try to correct it in some ways. It is fucking stupid, as economy will have to be redone almost entirely, otherwise pistols will have too much power. I'd expect them to do it now with this update, but hey, lets change it first to mr12, than discuss economy changes aka lets put pants over our head. This change will be permanent, i just hope that valve will be fast enough to make changes to the game, otherwise we're in for a long ride with a shit game
2023-09-01 10:53
9 replies
Obviously you change first to MR12 and then adjust economy later. Are you stupid? Why would you change two variables, then you dont know what needs tweaking. All the kids crying about MR15 is crazy. Most of the Pros like it and for matchmaking it just prevents stomps from lasting forever. Try it out at least.
2023-09-01 11:37
8 replies
Yes, because you can change a lot in mr12 format it self as a variable lol. MR12 will be less predictable, matches will have more upset potential, not always the best team will win, I'm not buyin it, dont bring valorant shit to CS.
2023-09-01 14:44
7 replies
You didnt understand the part with the variables i am guessing. Its not valorant shit, first of all. Second of all, lets take Cologne playoffs. EVERY game would have had the same outcome, of course there are games, that have crazy comebacks, but they are very rare. MR12 will be much more predictable, because it will most likely remove bo1, which are by far less predictable than bo3.
2023-09-01 18:31
2 replies
Elaborate on the variables part then. Why it isnt the valorant shit? People been saying that its from early 1,6 days, which is true, but i dont think devs are doing it because of old times. As for the randomness part, you will have less space for error, as every mistake will cost you the game, for which i prefered cs more than lol for example. I just hope that volvo will keep the mr15 format, or at least faceit will have it. BO1s will still exist, team with momentum will more likely just sweep veteran teams out of the competition with shorter maps. Remember old VP, who were able to grind out rounds? Forget that with mr12, it wont exist. Now we have 3 or 4 best teams, with mr12 we will have 8 or 10, as everyone will be able to beat everyone
2023-09-01 23:19
1 reply
If you have two variables and change both of them, you wont know how each affected the outcome. So they changed to mr12 sithout changing the economy, to see how it would affect gameplay and economy, so they can tweak the latter better. They have a better comparison to before then. You will have less space for error. You all acting like they changed it to mr5. Also there should be not much room for error on the highest level of play. It is rumored, that bo1 will be removed from major completely, and thats a big win i think. How many times have the underdogs won some lucky bo1 because they had a lifegame or something like that. So because one team plays a slow game, everyone has to? Also more bo3 will increase map variety. I can see, that there are some problems with the new system, but give it a chance at least. I think there are a lot of reasons in favor of it. Sure it depends on the way they actually implement it. But i think it could be refreshing.
2023-09-02 10:45
>don't bring Valorant to CS Jogga, Valorant copied CS along with the MR12 lmao zoomers are outing themselves
2023-09-14 16:01
3 replies
Ive played 1.6 since 2007, back in mirc days. Nobody played mr12, who cares if it was back in 2000s
2023-09-15 11:14
2 replies
zoomer
2023-09-25 11:33
1 reply
Xaxaxax
2023-09-25 17:29
really? ct team gamble stack one of the sites, the terrorists take the other ---> everyone saves. happens a lot. besides the format is too long right now. who the fuck can allocate three hours of their day to watch ONE MATCH?
2023-09-01 05:25
3 replies
me and plenty of others who got no life
2023-09-01 07:07
2 replies
yeh but this current format doesn't really appeal to all those people who've begun lives outside the game, eh?
2023-09-01 17:37
1 reply
it does if you think about it
2023-09-13 21:00
not every team plays like VP
2023-09-01 04:58
5 replies
Since when are saves exclusive to VP? Come on I get you don‘t like that change, but twisting narrative like that, is unnecessarily
2023-09-01 05:01
4 replies
you said "boring with consistent saves rounds" name a team that is consistent saving and making the game boring
2023-09-01 05:05
3 replies
every team when inferno side gets taken with equal trades.
2023-09-01 07:39
1 reply
Wrecked
2023-09-01 10:01
literally all the teams lol. did you watch any match since 2019?
2023-09-01 09:54
"dont fix shit that is not broken"
2023-09-01 04:46
1 reply
#34
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China Mahiro
Real
2023-09-01 04:55
+1
2023-09-01 05:47
you're still going to play it though. typical toxic gamer objecting to trying anything new at all
2023-09-01 13:36
9 replies
eh no. im past 36. i quit years ago mostly due to illness but also its not worth grinding it anymore or playing something without friends who all stopped playing and lets be honest. playing with random 14-22year olds feels weird. also i realy despise the new sound system and overly shiny look of the Game. i like some DM every few months for like 20minutes but thats about it. having more fun playing some 1.6 or older versions :)
2023-09-01 17:30
8 replies
people hated on csgo when it first came out but most sensible people realised it was the future of the game and despite the hate it got it ended up unifying the 1.6 and css communities and becoming one of the biggest esports in the world. csgo could not exist as it was forever. it was getting extremely stale. many pros quit and moved on in recent years. cs2 is the next logical step and many of the players who quit are debating a return. a new game is necassary to keep players and foster new interest in the game and the scene whether people like things about it or hate it altogether. the devs are wise to take inspiration from other successful comp shooters like valorant while keeping the identity of the game intact. valorant is popular for a reason
2023-09-06 18:18
boomer moment Just say you are shit at the game next time
2023-09-14 16:03
6 replies
sorry i only played with the best players of my country from beta 7 to 1.6 dont worry. natural decline will happen even to arrogant fucks like you cs2 is garbage for a lot of reasons. but i understand that your brain isnt fully developed yet so you need some time to understand this. wish you all the best though
2023-09-14 18:50
3 replies
lmao, boomer has his excuses ready, oh no no no no Don't forget to buy diapers, in your age one may never know
2023-09-25 11:34
2 replies
uh ok sorry for being born earlier i guess ? its ok. we all used to be like you are. young dumb naive and arrogant
2023-09-25 18:49
1 reply
No, we are just making silly little excuses for everything like you. Nothing is ever your fault, right?
2023-09-26 09:28
Lmao you still yappin 🤮🤮
2023-09-17 10:59
1 reply
says while yappin?
2023-09-25 11:34
+1
2023-09-05 15:06
its heaven not inferno
2023-09-01 04:25
1 reply
lol
2023-09-01 12:19
Ur late hltv
2023-09-01 04:25
LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
2023-09-01 04:34
Huuuuge
2023-09-01 04:34
left-hand viewmodel? plz? plllzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
2023-09-01 04:41
12 replies
Why is that excluded from the game? Dafuq a lot pros are using it too
2023-09-01 04:45
9 replies
i've been playing CS for 20+ years... i'm left handed with mouse... WTF
2023-09-01 05:19
The problem is pros use it on a toggle. It shouldnt be available that way but it should be there.
2023-09-01 09:51
7 replies
#159
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Australia jerrry
who cares? it's a purely visual change. And if you don't want to have a toggle, just have it lock when you start the game. Valve are just retarded
2023-09-01 10:14
1 reply
Locking when you change it is what I was alluding to. If you read what I said.
2023-09-01 12:13
#197
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United Kingdom absvny3t
Why shouldn't it lol, are you too stupid to make that bind?
2023-09-01 11:36
4 replies
Hehehehe. Kid I grew up with the q3 engine making complex binds..if you can read....I said it shouldn't be available as a toggle.
2023-09-01 12:12
3 replies
#215
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United Kingdom absvny3t
But why? Sometimes you want the model on the other side of the screen, and everyone can set that up if they want to. Why remove features that are fair just to reduce skill level?
2023-09-01 12:16
2 replies
Just like a jump grenade throw bind it doesn't rely on skill just programming. It shouldn't be meta to switch your gun model around. That's more stupid than anything.
2023-09-01 12:21
1 reply
#304
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United Kingdom absvny3t
It's not meta, anyone can do it. We agree, so why remove it from the game? They didn't remove jumpthrow
2023-09-01 15:33
+1
2023-09-01 05:36
cl_righthand 0
2023-09-01 09:42
Economy from short mm will be good for mr12
2023-09-01 04:55
Valorant Strike 2
2023-09-01 04:56
1 reply
Haha
2023-09-01 05:47
VALVe are a fucking disgrace.
2023-09-01 05:03
Interested to see how you can reduce the amount of one sided rounds Econ wise without impacting the economy systems importance as a whole
2023-09-01 05:04
We are so back
2023-09-01 05:13
I quit, screw off done playing counter strike if they're going to emulate that soulless garbage riot puts out
2023-09-01 05:13
1 reply
#373
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Norway Mickoo
Bye
2023-09-02 09:49
Might as well play valorant instead of this copy
2023-09-01 05:36
MR12 hopefully will be good, but the economy system needs to be tweaked a lot. it will be so that we might get half buy, but remove full eco completely (full eco is boring anyway, a place for player stat padding most of the time). one of the problems of MR16 is the game is too long. I'm fine playing a long game as it is. but when you are in a queue with toxic teammates, sometimes you wish there were fewer rounds to play. but, Overtime should stay as it is, in competitive matches. 1 round overtime like Valorant is bullsh*t.
2023-09-01 05:40
No more fast peeks on mid inferno?
2023-09-01 05:43
2 replies
Why not
2023-09-01 05:44
1 reply
I'm just asking as I'm not sure if that wall blocks all view or there's a gap. Don't mind the change, gives t's more space mid
2023-09-01 06:20
Jame Time denied
2023-09-01 05:46
Which will be more preferred Faceit ELO system or Premier Mode? Anyone know?
2023-09-01 05:48
1 reply
#66
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Egypt BomberMan_
The one where you have to pay any amount of money to actually be apart of it. If any cs account with a loyalty badge can play in premier mode it will be a nightmare.
2023-09-01 05:57
#65
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Egypt BomberMan_
who let valve cook...
2023-09-01 05:56
1 reply
maybe they thought they are supposed to change the gameplay instead of just adding visuals
2023-09-01 08:25
Inferno damn Man, doubt oce will get any invites tho (( Also if that API change for matches will affect third party services like leetify
2023-09-01 06:03
2 replies
probably only for ppl that havent played in a while and they'll likely just have to enter a new code
2023-09-01 06:26
#374
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Norway Mickoo
Leetify already works for cs2. Played like seven matches and got reviews like usual for all of them.
2023-09-02 09:51
Premier league with shit anti cheat system is gonna be awesome!
2023-09-01 06:23
#73
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Hungary szia
MR12 is the worst change valve has made to this game in a long long time :/ theyre trying to appeal to casuals instead of the people thatve been playing for years
2023-09-01 06:23
2 replies
+1
2023-09-01 09:02
+1
2023-09-03 11:38
Huge L
2023-09-01 06:38
L
2023-09-01 06:41
Awful I hate you
2023-09-01 06:49
jame is in shambles
2023-09-01 06:51
Mr12 and everymatch bo3,for.finals bo5 pretty good
2023-09-01 06:53
Cool.
2023-09-01 06:54
#84
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Canada Lachance
IT'S OUTTTTTT
2023-09-01 07:01
I'll give my educated opinion: MR12 sucks. I dislike this change very much. 13-0 < 16-0
2023-09-01 07:02
Even if you they change economy MR12 is garbage. *Shorter game = Going the short trend of everything since few years now (TikTok , Youtube shorts, Instagram , Facebook reels ,..) which seems tasteless and just an addiction for most of people.
2023-09-01 07:04
4 replies
#138
JDC | 
Czech Republic 3PO
+1
2023-09-01 09:18
lets make the average football game 60 minutes
2023-09-01 12:37
2 replies
Nt Lukas Bohm Rosenbauer
2023-09-01 12:54
Lets make the tennis game one set
2023-09-01 16:13
WHAT A DAY TO BE ALIVE!
2023-09-01 07:04
Few things that I didnt see anyone noticing here. -So finally the construction on inferno is done, and those ones who already called it church, it is a beautiful church now, lol. -they removed coffins, but added a spray paint and written indicating that the place is called coffin for a reason still. -car still no car, neither a spray paint like that - library has been a libray since stoneage, and now is a wine storage ? Wtf volvo, plz be reasonable here.
2023-09-01 07:09
huge L honestly i got like 50 60 fps with 1060 gb this game going to dead if not fix fps issue
2023-09-01 07:16
6 replies
Lmao bye bye with outfatex trash gpu 1060 trash even when it released😂
2023-09-01 10:24
1 reply
Not everyone shits money constantly
2023-09-01 13:17
I have 1650 and I get 300 fps? what's your cpu
2023-09-01 10:28
3 replies
i3 9100
2023-09-01 12:33
2 replies
Well here is your problem
2023-09-01 16:13
you have a very outdated shit PC bro
2023-09-01 23:09
Will be interesting to see mr12 Also inferno in cs2 looks insane!
2023-09-01 07:18
"coming summer 2023"
2023-09-01 07:21
Changes to Inferno banana will screw up a lot of nades. I don’t like these “arches” additions to Banana. Overall - bad.
2023-09-01 07:22
Why? Why? Why? We just wanted a better MM, anticheat, 128t and more maps No asked for this valorant type shit RIP Counter Strike
2023-09-01 07:30
#96
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United States ViperXZ
the new inferno looks fine af. We will see if MR12 is good or not... time will tell
2023-09-01 07:30
#98
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Netherlands itsm
Gigantic W is they change the economy accordingly
2023-09-01 07:38
No more crazy 12:3/13:2 comebacks? Sad.
2023-09-01 07:40
No more zonic law. Sadge
2023-09-01 07:52
2 replies
They have to steal the 9:3 curse from VAL, sadge x2
2023-09-01 09:18
11-2 new zonic law hltv confirmed
2023-09-01 12:58
MR12 R U KIDDIHNG ME VALVE IS VALORANT FANBOYS OR WUT
2023-09-01 07:55
#104
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Sweden pawn73
Fuck cs2.
2023-09-01 07:58
Win both pistol win half the match no one will go for risky insane clutch
2023-09-01 08:19
Yoo
2023-09-01 08:29
#115
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Ukraine twil
valve living in another dimension summer is over u stupid fucks
2023-09-01 08:32
Mr12 🤣🤣 rip cs
2023-09-01 08:37
#119
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World 888F!NAL
MR12 sucks new maps suck valve is clueless pro CS was thriving as it was
2023-09-01 08:41
1 reply
Thriving how? Boring to watch a whole game, random bo5 GFS, games that go on too long - bad for spectators and players.
2023-09-01 12:34
Cs no tension= Mr12, 1 game too short, two games too long, it's like you have a hot girl and now you have to change her to a fat ugly girl from North America.
2023-09-01 08:47
1 reply
Wtf respect my fat American girlfriend
2023-09-01 13:00
#122
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Ukraine ksay
swiss groups mr12? :D another fluke major
2023-09-01 08:47
1 reply
I much rather have MR12 BO3's all the way than MR15 BO1's. I think that's a major reason they changed it, to make BO3's more viable for TOs.
2023-09-01 14:49
Kay cya cs I'm not watching this garbage anymore At least I'll have more spare time for myself..
2023-09-01 09:03
Valorant here I come
2023-09-01 09:08
atleast they changed to mr12, best that could happen
2023-09-01 09:10
#133
NiKo | 
Germany Booya
Omg Inferno so beautiful Some of the MR12 Haters here seem to never played CS 1.6 between 2002 - 2012?! A Dev Team that is aware of tweeking 100$ Prices of Guns which can have a hugh Impact to the Game maybe had one or two meetings and a lot of Discussion about this MR12 Topic but ok ... its HLTV everyone here is a fucking Specialist Game DEV Pro Player whos sitting in the CEO Chair. And does everyone think they didnt were in touch with Pro´s .... loli
2023-09-01 09:14
5 replies
1.6 was not MR12 until 2012 lol.
2023-09-01 11:54
2 replies
#268
NiKo | 
Germany Booya
ESL had several 2 Maps MR12 Leagues back then, noone cried
2023-09-01 13:38
1 reply
Online pugs and noob ladders dont count
2023-09-01 15:47
Flag
2023-09-01 13:01
Tf are you on about? They switched to MR15 once 1.6 came out, because in 2003 people realised that MR12 was dumb and fluky. Now, 20 years past Valve decides to break down something that literally nobody had any issues with.
2023-09-01 16:35
#135
bxz | 
Germany bxz
finally an invite <3
2023-09-01 09:17
#139
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Poland Limbos
very good letsgo!
2023-09-01 09:19
Where is cl_righthand 0? Valve pls fix.
2023-09-01 09:23
MR8 COMING SOON IN CS3
2023-09-01 09:28
1 reply
MR8 M8
2023-09-01 13:02
Inferno graphics overhaul looks beautiful I'm not sold at all on MR12 though, they need to change A LOT in order for it to work as well as MR15 did
2023-09-01 09:33
I miss old banana already.
2023-09-01 09:36
For mr12 to work, they should rework the economy system too. I love it how they want to improve the game every time they release a new version, then it takes YEARS of complaints from players to make it playable. (If they do. CS:S was constantly getting worse) At this point we should rather go cod style. Keep the pistol round for the fun of it, then you can choose your guns,equipment etc for free. In mr12 if you lose both pistols you are pretty much done. So far I hate most of the updates, but lets see. (Funny how playerbase were begging for 128 tick mm and they denied it, because they said most of the players have shit PCs for 128 tick. Then they re-release the same maps (really few real changes) with extra graphics (it's really funny, since everyone is playing CS with low graphics settings, pretty much since cs exists), with new fire design (which is for some reason purple, mad ugly) and new valorant smokes which all kills fps. Seems like I will have to look for new games for the next 1-3 year while they make the game playable again.
2023-09-01 09:45
1 reply
What u guys don’t have proper pc s
2023-09-01 11:36
6-round OT with MR12 looks a little strange, just 2 or 4-round could be OK if Valve wants to reduce the map duration
2023-09-01 09:46
2 replies
Exactly… they just copy valorant but it will be boring and fluke.. cs is mr15.. changed that will be the most stupid decision and I not mentioned the fact that the game looks awful and like rainbow six
2023-09-01 12:18
1 reply
did you just say CS copied Valorant with mr12? LOL CS started mr12 20 years ago.
2023-09-01 14:15
Yes. Yes yes yes.
2023-09-01 09:49
Agree with comments above. If you lose both pistols round you are done. Either big economy changes or bad system. Also now we'll need more bo5 and bo3, mr12 bo1 boring.
2023-09-01 09:50
#154
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Finland Emvi
Its happening pls no panic
2023-09-01 09:56
dead game, summer is over
2023-09-01 09:58
valve is killing cs. what is the problem with mr16? if u think it is taking too much time, then make it mr3 or may be mr1(only knife)
2023-09-01 10:07
#158
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France iatis
Comeback will be more difficult to do if team lose pistol. But easier if they win it :)
2023-09-01 10:11
1 reply
U never played valorant i guess XD
2023-09-01 12:15
RIP CS... that shit is garbage
2023-09-01 10:14
I am glad to see the game change and evolve BUT MR12 is not good change in my opinion. Pistols will be hella important and less deagle on eco rounds makes me sad.
2023-09-01 10:26
1 reply
Deagle hasn't been removed. The teams just have to hit the shots.
2023-09-01 12:19
#169
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Armenia VirtusNo
and beta key where??
2023-09-01 10:38
#170
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Sweden shinelol
I just go a rank in MM and am in Prime status. Why don't I get the CS2 beta :(
2023-09-01 10:40
end of cs confirmed
2023-09-01 10:41
#173
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Finland Teukkasd
noo wayyyy
2023-09-01 10:42
Bye cs
2023-09-01 10:47
Who cares about mm ranks when faceit is there kekw
2023-09-01 10:47
4 replies
Faceit shit only Russian teammates 99% time
2023-09-01 11:37
3 replies
Sad, maybe its time to buy premium and level up, im 6-8 lvl, it depends from luck mostly and teammates, but i have ruski rarely. More polaks, but they are the same like ruski.
2023-09-01 13:32
And aleo i dont like mm cause ranks are worth nothing. Global Elite in cs is easy af if you are just decent player and can use brain sometimes and dont makin stupid decisions while game, 90% of global elite players are on level 3-5 faceit. And only 10% is really good and they can compete with 8-10 levels faceit.
2023-09-01 13:34
1 reply
its so and so not completly true but yeah i get ur point figures when i last time used premium still issues who im getting teammate used to get lots of scandinavia and UK but at some point after like csgo had been for an year free 2 play bunch of ruslanas
2023-09-01 20:23
#180
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Vietnam 2uick48
bo1 and mr12 name a combi more fluke than this
2023-09-01 10:58
1 reply
Imagine having higher stakes. Better for entertainment. Teams that can't adapt can just leave.
2023-09-01 12:18
Anyone here who didn't have rank before the update but got their ranks now to try to get access? Did it work? Because I don't think it does.
2023-09-01 10:58
3 replies
Well, i got my beta today and I checked if I have rank, and no, I didn’t had a rank and still got the beta idk kek
2023-09-01 13:12
1 reply
Wait that's super weird then, because it was one of the requirements put forth in their tweet and patch notes. You're just lucky ig enjoy bro
2023-09-01 15:49
I have 2h p2w and got the game today
2023-09-01 22:20
I could fill a pool with all the tears from the crybaby's in this comment section.
2023-09-01 11:00
3 replies
that would be such a refreshing bath :D
2023-09-01 11:03
#199
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United Kingdom absvny3t
You still wouldn't make CS2 an improvement over CSGO
2023-09-01 11:36
1 reply
Well its still in beta. Do you think it will never be an improvement?
2023-09-01 14:56
i really enjoy MR12 idk but feels good.
2023-09-01 11:07
The game looks sick, MR12 will make the game to be played more dynamic and it will be fun
2023-09-01 11:22
This sucks. This is pretty much win pistol rounds and its gg.
2023-09-01 11:18
Then with MR12 you have more than enough time to offer a BO5 final + a BO3 3rd place decider on the last day of the Major, to know which teams are the best 3 in the world. Instead of a stupid showdown match
2023-09-01 11:31
2 replies
Agree
2023-09-01 11:38
+1 nice idea, we need 3rd place decider
2023-09-01 22:22
Ye don’t like mr12 aswell like they didn’t learn from 1.5 I hope premiere mode with mr 12 has bo3 mode now atleast
2023-09-01 11:41
Wow, i really don't like this. Lot of places seems like they narrowed them down A LOT.
2023-09-01 11:46
Now kids will cheat even more hoping to get as high up as possible on the leaderbord and get the highiest rank possible, so Valve better make sure they have a new and working anticheat in place. Like why is there still no mention of the anticheat system in the new game and how they’d go bout it? Not sure if its just me missing that info, but I dont think there was anything reported by valve regarding CS2’s anticheat and if there would be a new system in place to catch those cheating bast..ds! There better be some new anticheat implemented in place that works better than in cs go to catch’em otherwise this is going to be a disaster and even worse than in GO as far as cheating goes. Still won’t catch them all, but a better anticheat in place is a must. Also bring back the r_drawtracers_firstperson command back pls for those who might need it. Besides that I like the changes, lighting etc. pretty much just gotta get used to some new spray pattern for ak for the most part and good to go! Fps is also good for the most part over 300-400 on most maps depending on your location on the map. Feels like fps is better than in go. Gl hf.
2023-09-01 12:04
2 replies
Can u say with what specs you do get more fps than go? Ty
2023-09-01 22:25
1 reply
i7 13700KF NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Motherboard MSI PRO Z790-P WIFI Memory 32GB Power Supply Corsair 850W 80 Gold
2023-09-02 01:29
#208
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Hungary ShadYyBoy
Great one
2023-09-01 12:01
1. While MR12 will mean shorter, high intensity matches, it will take away from us many Anti Eco and Eco wins, also reducing the number of comeback rounds; its a shame Valve doesn't recognize or appreciate the existing masterpiece that they already have. 2. CS Rating will have people battling over a number, when there are ranks, and that too with hidden progress, you get excited over reaching a new rank, I think if you want to include CS Rating, don't get rid of the ranks. I believe each and every one of you posted ss on your steam profiles of reaching a new rank, i don't know how it will work with numbers. While I am hopeful for CS2, I want to celebrate CS:GO as being the true tactical fps masterpiece, not only in the mechanics but the gameplay and design.
2023-09-01 12:11
4 replies
It wasn't the masterpiece as much it was the most consistently available and went f2p. It's the easiest to understand and easy to watch. It just stayed by the river and watched the corpses of its enemies float down.
2023-09-01 12:15
2 replies
How would you describe a masterpiece?
2023-09-01 12:16
1 reply
Personally? RtCW, ET, Titanfall, CS. CS just has money behind it.. for.. reasons. But CSGO is no masterpiece. Games are too long, casters use save / eco rounds to talk about anecdotes. Higher stakes means more effort by teams to win every round. If the players don't like it they can quit. Pro CS isn't a permanent government job where U can sit and be below average for your whole career and Sue if you get fired.
2023-09-01 12:25
in my view cs:go was and is fine as it is, just need a few tweaks, valve is going to kill the game with this cs2 idiocy, rip cs
2023-09-01 12:32
Not sure how i feel about MR12 though yet, it might be too short. I did play MR12 back in 1.5 and 1.6, but dont remember the feeling anymore, but if they leave pistol rounds and economy the same way it is now without any adjustments then I think its gonna be bad, but if they remove pistols and give more startmoney then it might be fine, but i love pistol rounds, so dont want pistol rnds removed, but sadly they’ll still do what they feel like as they dont care that much bout competitive players’ oppinions and rather go with what casuals might prefer, which is sad.
2023-09-01 12:19
1 reply
I do, it was shit
2023-09-01 12:38
Imagine having a game where every round counts and the casters don't just fluff off and the games take much less time.. yes these are all bad things..
2023-09-01 12:16
Mr 12 was too unbalanced, the only good things about mr 12 is that teams will focus more on pistols tactics and teams with good pistols players will be rewarded more. imo it will be soon back to mr15.. probably just 1 or 2 tournament with mr12 to get a memory flash back of why it went mr15
2023-09-01 12:24
Be careful, Valve. What destroyed league of legends is snowballing. Making the game shorter gives less chance for the losing team to comeback. MR12 is really bad imo. Going 0-12 in a half you have so small chance of comeback compared to 3-12
2023-09-01 12:21
#227
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Germany staxie
sounds valorant to me
2023-09-01 12:25
Only thing I don’t like is how much more momentum a pistol round is going to give a team. Winning both pistols is going to make the game that much easier to win. But when I first started playing cs it was mr12.. wasn’t terrible but I grew to like mr15. I like a nice long game of cs. But now that I have a baby it’s lookin like mr12 could be a good thing. I can now play 2 games while my daughter is taking a nap lol
2023-09-01 12:28
fantastic, needs economy changes, and the games become watchable, currently it's wayyy too long
2023-09-01 12:29
1 reply
Yep. Imagine opening up hltv and seeing the game U checked 90 mins ago still being on the same map.
2023-09-01 12:32
Personally I think MR12 is a bad move but that's just me.
2023-09-01 12:32
#239
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France d0py
maybe add anticheat?
2023-09-01 12:37
mr12 trash gj valve
2023-09-01 12:38
RIP The Dream
2023-09-01 12:43
INFERNO IS AMAZING
2023-09-01 12:48
#245
NEO | 
Poland sedi
wooooow
2023-09-01 12:51
Bullshit
2023-09-01 12:57
#249
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Romania Quillin
Nah MR12 is trash
2023-09-01 12:58
Fuck MR12 Fuck Valve
2023-09-01 13:04
i will stop watching majors if they dare to play any mr12 bo1s there
2023-09-01 13:04
2 replies
any match should be bo3 and grand finals bo5
2023-09-01 17:00
1 reply
+1
2023-09-01 18:01
#256
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Scotland TWGKofi
Hopefully MR12 will make them change the dogwater Major Format. More Bo3s and Bo5 Finale plz.
2023-09-01 13:05
1 reply
+1, MR12 without BO1s would be 5/5
2023-09-01 13:53
#257
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Sweden 7emod
I like it, maybe my sister will play long matches now instead of short matches. But the ranking at specific maps that is something that probably will be really bad
2023-09-01 13:05
1 reply
For the 1st year, before the masses get their new ranks and settle with those for each map. Will be like every other rank shifts before but in the grander scale
2023-09-01 16:06
#263
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Germany who|cars
based valve
2023-09-01 13:31
#266
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Poland Pechowy
Still 50% matches on level higher than 8 lvl faceit/LEM would be with cheaters
2023-09-01 13:34
Looks like garbage.
2023-09-01 13:38
From a viewer standpoint, MR12 is amazing. Thank you volvo!
2023-09-01 13:52
Valve, pls add the ability to be able to flash over top mid as CT on de_inferno back like it is in CS:GO. You can currently bounce your flash over mid's roof top when coming from the arches side as CT to flash T's trying to rush mid early, now you cant through anything over top mid as CT without exposing yourself. This would be some random example I just found of the flashes we could throw in CS GO over mid youtube.com/watch?v=kBZcRD3Wjmk Cause now these CS2 new tall buildings in mid of inferno limit CTs' options in what is considered one of the most important positions on the map.
2023-09-01 13:58
I never thought I'd see the day where CS would revert back to its MR12 days. Shorter matches is a big plus, especially for the majors.
2023-09-01 14:02
2 replies
mr12 is a throwback btw cs2 is a complete throwback
2023-09-01 14:54
mr12 bo5 should be perfect
2023-09-01 16:55
Shitty update
2023-09-01 14:04
#279
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Latvia kArnyje
Are you fucking kidding me? This is not valorant stop ruining the game I love. Gotta go back to css or just staying with csgo
2023-09-01 14:06
3 replies
Lol imagine going to cs:s of all games
2023-09-01 16:04
2 replies
#337
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Latvia kArnyje
Yeah I still play from time to time you got a problem with that?
2023-09-01 17:48
1 reply
i kinda do tbh, no disrespect Although i myself like cs:s for what it was and is, it's so outdated and obsolete that i can't imagine why anyone would bother to play it
2023-09-01 18:56
Best out of season april fools joke
2023-09-01 14:25
MR12? Good to know i will no have to care about CS 2 :)))
2023-09-01 14:27
Part of me is a little worried that if they don't tweak economy MR12 is going to go poorly. CSGO has seen a looooot of 11-4 or 12-3 halves, many of them going the distance in the second half. In MR12 is that gonna be 11-1 or 12-0? That's just not fun at that point
2023-09-01 14:30
Put cl_righthand 0 again pieceofsh
2023-09-01 14:31
#287
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Ukraine SHEOL_NR
Imagine major with mr12 bo1 ahah Even EG can go 3-0 now
2023-09-01 14:40
inferno! looks very beautiful. and I like the little changes as far as I can see on the images. I'll check it out when I'm at home 😃
2023-09-01 14:43
The maps lack shadows from clouds
2023-09-01 14:53
If the econmy change follows...
2023-09-01 14:58
for casual player this is a win but for hardcore i think its pretty lame if people give up after losing pistol
2023-09-01 15:06
Statistically mr12 does not change outcomes of the professional games that much. 90-100% of maps typically would end the same result using mr12 as mr15. last tournament playoff games 100% would have ended same result using mr12. so if money system is tweaked it could be close to 100% same result using mr12
2023-09-01 15:15
#299
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Poland karov
inferno looks so good
2023-09-01 15:21
#301
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Finland RPGWiZaRD
MR12 is for zoomers, they cannot focus longer than that anyway with how the Internet has developed as a whole. As long as we see fewer BO1s and more BO5 finals as a result I don't mind.
2023-09-01 15:30
6 replies
I hope that happens, bo3 with mr12 is kinda odd
2023-09-01 16:54
Best csgo players of all time are zoomers nice try S1mple, zywoo
2023-09-02 14:34
4 replies
#379
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Finland RPGWiZaRD
Unless you link to the opinion of said persons I will take it as pulling it out of your ass.
2023-09-02 14:35
3 replies
So s1mple and zywoo are not csgo best players ?
2023-09-02 15:21
2 replies
#382
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Finland RPGWiZaRD
What has that anything to do with what I wrote, I asked for a source for those opinons from those players that MR12 is a good change as I believe you are just making it up otherwise (in typical HLTV user fashion)
2023-09-02 15:33
1 reply
no you said zoomer cannot focus longer than mr12 so how can they be the best players in the game in mr15 if they cant focus ?
2023-09-02 16:00
Should be nr15 for bp1 mr12 for bo3s bo5s
2023-09-01 15:31
#305
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Sweden multib
Mr12 means just a few bad timings or lucky rounds will determine who wins :(
2023-09-01 15:39
#307
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Poland BAN_ANIME
hopefully they focus on optimization next
2023-09-01 15:43
#311
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Sweden fued
nooooo
2023-09-01 15:56
#312
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Portugal lies2
I have prime and still no acess. Do I really nead to play one match and win in MM to get acess? XD
2023-09-01 16:02
Everything so far has been great except for Mr12. That is a massive L. A solution for a problem that never existed. You already had short matches to appeal to casual and long matches that had been doing what they were suppose to for 20 years straight. Shorter matches means less revenue from strrams as well. Economy changes are expected and i guess switching short and long with the a unified format makes sence but it breaks more things than it fixes in a grand scale
2023-09-01 16:03
#319
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Brazil flytw4tp
Valorant v2
2023-09-01 16:14
The new generation of kids don't have the attention span, thanks tik tok
2023-09-01 16:32
castrated version of valorant LULz, hopefully this game flops and valorant stays on top
2023-09-01 16:36
Major BO5!
2023-09-01 16:53
shit game mr12 was moved to mr15 for a reason :) ranked change is whatever kinda dogshit ggs
2023-09-01 17:09
Terrible change
2023-09-01 17:09
hopefully less bo1 and more bo5
2023-09-01 17:12
economy tweak needed with mr12
2023-09-01 17:21
#341
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Bulgaria ramkain
This won't be only an economical problem. Maps will be forced to get more balanced among the T-s and CT-s sides. If not, this will result in smaller chances of comeback for the team, that starts in map disadvantage. What does this mean? It means Cobblestone won't be coming back as the one we remembered, Ancient, Vertigo (and possibly Inferno and mirage as well) will get significant changes. The only TRULY suitable map for this format to me it seems Dust 2. - Less rounds will mean also, that much more timeouts shall be needed (at least 6 or even 8). The lack of rounds will result in the round-management being more stressful. - Outside competitive play, less rounds will lead to Increasingly more intense toxicity and hostility (including griefers/trollers - thinking the game will end much sooner than before will only encourage them). - My prognosis: HIGHER percent of possibility (in comparison of before mr12 if any such research would have been ever done - theoretically) of developing physiological (for example cardiac) and psychological (for example burnout) problems for professional players (and not only them).
2023-09-01 18:18
I'm fine with mr12, but new Inferno looks bad
2023-09-01 18:24
new inferno is terrible MR12 is a joke like entire cs2 version
2023-09-01 19:33
#349
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Luxembourg 2000
awful changes these new devs day-by-day make this game like valorant like just stop
2023-09-01 19:48
SOURCE 3 when????
2023-09-01 20:24
1 reply
11 years probably :/
2023-09-01 20:53
So the "buy awp;" command buys a Scout... can't stack Use commands... The video brightness settings is not working just like CS:GO Please bring back "invnextnongrenade" command... So many commands doesn't work
2023-09-01 20:54
#359
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France Uexo
mr15 is better but ok
2023-09-01 22:28
Fck u valve, mr15 much better
2023-09-01 23:20
I don't get it. Why the fuck would you change to mr12? Everything needs to be short and appeal to as many people as possible. I can't believe they change mr15 back to mr12. I really don't have any interest in playing Cs2. Csgo is at its peak in terms of competition and now this.
2023-09-02 03:55
#380
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Brazil CS_KING
At least maps will be short and not so boring long to watch maybe with some economy changes and gameplay, hud and brightness changes it will seems like the old cs 1.6
2023-09-02 15:17
MR12 sounds awesome. Watching a MR15 bo3 is often boring unless it's a semi-final or final. It's a welcome change!
2023-09-03 11:26
gonna switch to heartstone now fuck valve
2023-09-03 11:34
W
2023-09-03 14:40
9INE is gonna be global on vertigo, rest silver
2023-09-04 09:18
Valve needs to fix these type of situations below: (C) “ Queuing solo in CS:GO and being matched against five-man parties has long been an issue. Naturally, these kinds of matches are often unfair, since the five-man lobby should have an advantage due to being able to effectively communicate together. On the other hand, it’s not tough to run into some trolls during your solo adventures in matchmaking. “I kept getting matched against 5-stack teams who play together and coordinate their gameplay. Meanwhile, my team consists of 4 strangers, any of whom could tilt at any moment and decide to ruin the game for the rest of us,” the author wrote. There is a simple solution to this glaring issue. Players believe restricting five-man stacks from being put against solo players would be the simplest one. On top of that, they underline how Dota 2 already has such options, despite having a much smaller player base in Europe than CS:GO.” Taken from dotesports.com/counter-strike/news/this-..
2023-09-04 13:21
Funny thing is that 90% of the people complaining so hard are just gonna play the game anyway.
2023-09-04 23:57
2 replies
They just criticize, don't say don't play don't dream in vain
2023-09-05 17:25
1 reply
i was more referring to the kids that are like saying the game is so terrible they wont even play it. those guys will still play.
2023-09-05 20:48
CS has been in bad state for me ever since they removed de_train. I'm strongly against this, MR16 was perpect, MR12 is extremely short. But there are pros too, its easier to move on from CS after so many years, it was a good run, I will happily move on and I will not be back.
2023-09-05 15:12
they should fix the economy then
2023-09-05 18:40
#404
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Bulgaria GNMitev
Its same Football to be two by 30 mins
2023-09-05 19:22
This sucks. Ruining the game, bit by bit
2023-09-07 18:13
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